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Jeff Hardy to TNA? The System Visit The Hardy Compound | TNA iMPACT! Show Review 6/13/24

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14 Jun 2024
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Joel Pearl (@JoelPearl) and Cresta Starr (@CrestaTheeStarr) review TNA iMPACT! for June 13, 2024:


- The System visits the Hardy Compound

- Ace of Beys vs. Nic Nemeth and Ryan Nemeth

- Mike Santana vs. Zachary Wentz

- Masha Slamovich vs. Marti Belle

- Dani Luna vs. Tasha Steelz

- Ash By Elegance in action

- TNA Against All Odds Preview & Predictions

- Jeff Hardy/TNA Update



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As one of America's leading accounting, consulting, and wealth management firms, our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs. We leverage industry-focused insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance, uncover opportunity, and move upward at Mossatoms.com. Hello, friends. We're back again. It's vifle.com, and it's time for your TNA Impact post show. It's June 13, 2024. I am Atrel Pearl, and the lovely, fantastic crest of stars here with me before I tell her, "Hi, how are you?" And say, "How high are you?" Because I'm not talking at her, I'm talking with her. First of all, yes, we're doing this very hastily in the ways that I've started this for the audio listeners, because we have a lot to talk about tonight against all of us tomorrow. There's a lot coming from the TNA side of things, the NXT and the WWE partnership side of things. There was a hearty compound gimmick that went on tonight. My voice is cracking because of the way that I feel about it. Cress the star, how are you? And go. I am doing much better than you are. I was thoroughly sports entertained while you were sports drained this evening. I thought tonight's episode of TNA was 10 out of 10. No notes. I don't care if you disagree. I had a great time. There's so much going into tomorrow. I cannot wait. This was my first hearty compound shenanigans stunt shows. But as a fine connoisseur of drag, mama, this was camp, and I died, I lived to be reborn in the Lake of reincarnation. This was, I lived, I lived, I lived, it was so good. I'm looking forward to the PCO marriage, up, up. >> That, that'll perk me up, that's coming, that's good. Listen, this is the, this is how this show is going to be very different from other ones Cress than I have done. Obviously, I have a few more years of pro wrestling viewership under my belt. That doesn't make me better or worse than anyone. It just means I have a little more experience watching 27 other hearty compound match segment things. What I was going to say before I decided to just start the audio thing was, how do I put this lightly? The first time he did it, there were no kids and barely a wife. And now, there's a small village at the hearty compound. I'm like, we'll talk about it. But like I said in the crossover, it was all a dream. And I appreciate the fact that Matt Hardy put the emphasis on getting his kids sag after credits on this, given them, given them roles and speakies. That's great. I told you it was a child actress, Kresta. It's hard to work with child actors. I mean, I thought there were laws against that number one, not what you do. I hate it, I hate it, but you're right. Number two, did you want it to be real life again for our audio listeners? We said this. I said this in the crossover. I saw a woman get beheaded this evening that. I think having it be a dream is for the best on a show that a man has gotten shanked, buried alive. Another man has been set on fire, but battery acid put in his mouth shocked death on a weekly basis. People get bit. There's a man literally being patient zero, please. The problem becomes that at the end of the day, all of this gets settled in a professional wrestling match. Which like the hardies, honestly, you go back and watch the first hardy compound stuff. They did do matches in the ring. Now they've done the hardy compound stuff in TNA, in WWE, in AEW, honestly, if they had their way, they'd probably bring it to MLW at some point just to say they've crossed all the streams. With that in mind, when you have to then have this is all building to a match in the ring between Moose and Matt Hardy. And now with the news that we'll get to shortly about Jeff Hardy and his impending departure from AEW and where that's going to lead, if you're listening to a TNA post show, I think you can probably bet $5 on FipleSelect.com or wherever that you might be seeing Jeff Hardy very shortly in the aforementioned post show comments. I mean, I don't hate it, not for nothing, I do agree with what Matt and Jeff are saying towards the end of their AEW time that we're not really being used. Let them go have fun, you know what I mean? Let the brothers lead each other, let them go have fun. Of course, I'm okay with that. And we'll talk about that in so much more. But obviously you can tell tonight's show did a number on both of us in different ways. And if you want to do a number on us, how about you go ahead and leave a thumbs up on the video. Subscribe to us here at youtube.com/fightfield. And of course, FipleSelect is the best five bucks in the business. We'll talk about that shortly and all of the news and content we drop there. And also, you want to donate a super chat and go ahead. Any man get your question or statement right on the air. We'll chisom kicks us off saying I haven't seen you all this stress since you lost you I mean a vorraine as family members, I'm going to gain a whole new family this Monday on Ron Corpus Christi, baby. Where am I? We'll find out. Or you can go to hopper chats.com. Press to tell them how and why and how. You head on over to hopper chats.com. You put your comment in like, hey, across the why did you like the hardy compound match so much? I'll give you my solicited answer at that point. You put your dollar amount in. We keep a little bit more. It keeps the light on hopper chats.com thing. Moose and that hardy is now a broken rules match. Okay. And they just announced PCO versus rich swan. That is. You literally look so stressed like I want to believe this is a work, but like you're literally just like, and then now this so I think people know that my I do a morning show on on on five full overbooked on our sister channel. I'm very proud of that show. It's called in the weeds. If you go and listen to it, it's 10 a.m. till noon Eastern. We talk about wrestling from all over the place. That's because my schedule dictates that I wake up at six o'clock in the morning every day. That was, you know, and I do the TNA post show and you all know that I love TNA and that I love doing this show and I love hanging out with y'all and crest is one of my favorite people in the world. Not stressed. I feel bad coming onto these shows and being like, I'm tired because it's not that I'm tired because then people are just like, well, then why am I here? Because I'm still energetic and I'm still here to talk about it. I feel like I feel like I got this and then that hardy compound match happened and for me, it was the next 10,000 years of cinema. I think it's just because I've seen it 20,000 times. So I love being here and I love doing this and no one can ever take that away from me. Well, I mean, Sean could, but he's not going to, at least I had to do something pretty, pretty bad to get that way. But yeah, we'll talk about the show tonight. We'll talk about all the other stuff. We're going to preview against all odds. We'll give our predictions because the show is tomorrow. We are doing a post show. I will be awake as I am here. We will be talking about it. There will be a lot of newsworthy elements coming out of that show. I can tell you now it's sold out, which is fantastic looking forward to covering that show. So we will be live here on Fightful.com on youtube.com/fightful. We'll do it. We'll have fun with it. Are you ready to talk about TNA Impact for June 13th? Yes, sir. I honestly had a good time with this episode. All things considered. I know we have very different opinion, differing opinions, but I had a great time. That's fair. Let's talk about it. Because again, that's the dichotomy of you and I as a fan. We see things differently and that's okay. Santana opens up to feed Zachary Wentz, shout out to Trey McGell for being the best exaggerated dickhead ringside guy ever. I thought it was hilarious and selling was great. This all basically breaks down. Wentz hits a front facing headlock DDT. Macklin stops Trey McGell from getting involved in the match. That allows Santana to hit spin the block out of nowhere while Wentz is in mid-air. The finish looked fantastic. And Santana gets the win. Macklin and Santana stare each other down, but it looks like they're looking on the same page for this upcoming match. What do you think of Santana and Wentz opening the show? I want to talk about that ending third sequence. When he caught that rolling buck 50 into the dive from Santana and then caught that deaf valley driver, which looked like it landed Wentz right on the top of his head. Santana is so fast and he's so powerful. He's one of those people's like Keith Lee. You don't expect him to be so fast because of his height and his weight. This match at the end was so good. The pump kick for pump kick to the knee to the knee showing that Wentz ain't no slouch either. But also, McGell, I would be afraid. Shout outs. Listen, I'm a Steve Macklin apologist now. Listen, here I am being a flip-flop. I don't care. I like that these guys are on the same page. It's going to suck when they turn on each other, but I'm ready for it. This was a good, this was a really good opener, really good opener. Like we talked about before, I don't think that this ends with Santana and Macklin turning on each other. I really do think this is two guys who realize they are so similar as human beings from different backgrounds, but with similar kind of attitudes and similar just professional views that they're going to always respect each other, but they're always going to want to one up each other in the ring. So it's jockeying for position, but right now it's the enemy of my enemy is also my friend. So they're going to play that out. I'm hoping that this ends with both men kind of just saying we did it. It's done, you know, don't expect me to help you again. And then somewhere down the line they help each other again. But like there's just that hidden respect between the two and they just move on from there. Yeah. I can agree with that. I do hope it's that situation. I do think maybe it might not be a one and done right quite as yet. I think the the rascals are tricks. I think that they're not going to let this go. That's fair. I'd love to see the rascals continue to be just shit disturbers. That's fine. They they're so good at it. I also am wondering if the TNA crossover with WWE gets more heated up as Wesleyan involved and on which show do they show up and does it make sense to do it because heels and TNA carry over babyface and NXT. Can you make that work? How can you make that work? Galis in NXT are the only team that would make sense as you know, you got to support your friends. That's the only team that like everyone would just cheer for because everyone would hate Galis, whereas like TNA fans and I mean that because like that's just the Galis presentation nobody's like, yeah, I love my coffee. It's like, no, they're just like, I really hate these guys. I don't like their characters. It's the same thing. Who did we talk about this recently? There's somebody on the show that we're frequently talking about. It was like a perfect heel. It's not. No, it's somebody else and I'm completely just, I'm forgetting right now, Matt Harty. No, it's not Matt Harty, the idea being though, that you've got to find a team that's going to be so dastardly that they outweigh the death chart on both shows because that's what you're doing. Oh, the system, like moves and Edwards and Alisha Edwards, all of them. Yeah, yeah. They're a group that nobody says, man, I really like the system or I have to respect this. No, nobody says that. Everyone just says these guys suck because Ariane's another good example in the chat. And they're a team that are completely hated, universally hated. So you can do that with partnering Wesley back with Trey Miguel and Zachary Wentz. I agree. And I do see in chat as well, there has been a lot of rascal shatter. I am a, I don't want to say them chronically online, but I am someone who does read a lot of tweets and a lot of wrestling ramblings, and I would personally as someone who only has that nostalgia from what I see on clips, I would like to see that interaction. But again, how do you make someone who's a complete baby face right now, interact with people who are spray painting people in the face, you let them get corrupted. Is it a good heel turn for someone, or is it a good heel turn for a face turn for somebody else? It could work in either favor if you think about it hard enough, I think. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, listen, speaking of people that, uh, people want to cheer but are doing a great job at getting hated, Mustafa Ali sits down with Tom Hanifin. Everybody hates Tom. No, I'm just kidding. Hanifin does such a tremendous job being that baby face interviewer in this setting. Ali does the perfect job of being deflecting politician POS. He knows exactly who he's pulling from. He knows exactly who he's talking about. It may be someone who was just on a, on, on a very impulsive show this past week, but either way, Ali is doing the best character work he's done. And I've talked about this multiple times. He's been given those opportunities to do it, knocks it out of the park. And the whole idea here is just deflect. Every time Hanifin mentions something deflect it, bring up the nonsense. He does this character work so stupidly well. And then Ali just shuts down the interview when Hanifin asks about ducking speedball. When I say to myself, baby, slam aversary, we're doing it. Montreal, big match for speedball. What do you think of this whole thing? This was when I knew TNA was really going to be good tonight. This segment was so good. I don't know how to describe how I'm about to say this, but I mean this with the utmost respect. Ali was being a piece of crap and I lived for every second of it. And he was like, I know what you're talking about, like terrible limits, but I was trying to help it keep it healthy. And while you're focusing on the time that I stabbed that child, you're not focusing on the opportunity that I gave their brothers more to eat. I'm like, yo, you, this is, this is great. This is so good. This is so good. And right? He said right when Hanifin was like, yo, but actually really ducking speedball and she was like, Hey, we're done with questions. I was like, Oh, that's good shit, pal. I love this. I really like this. Ali is doing some peak hill work. This is another guy that unlike the system and I'm not saying the system can't rustle, but I'll even be doing some stuff. He'll be doing some stuff and things and I'm like, why you gotta be a jerk? It's so good. You want to hate him, but he's so good. This is good. I don't want a good time to be a TNA fan right now. This is perfection to me out 10 out of 10, no notes, uh, Tokyo dome, 100,000 people. Well, I will say that one thing I don't necessarily love is that they are looking past the match this Friday. They are kind of looking past trends seven. They're looking more at speedball. They're looking more towards, you know, what's potentially going to happen in slammerversary and someone in the chat asks, you know, does speedball win in Montreal? There's a part of me that thinks, yes, that's a big moment, but there's another part of me that thinks if, if I'm in Ali's head, I try to make this go all the way until November. Why November crest a star? Unfortunately for us Americans election month. The only problem with that is that there are no other TNA paper views after October on the books. Well, I mean, traditional paper views, the big, big events, you know, against all odds is considered a premium live event. It's a $10 trailer show versus a $30 $40 paper view like slammerversary. There are no tentpole paper views after bound for glory in October. So if you're trying to build to a big Ali drops title moment after the election ends a big, you know, politician loses everything, then you get there. But when can you do it in October? You could do it at, you know, at bound for glory. But honestly doing it with speedball in Montreal, making that a big moment. It's, that's hard to deny as an opportunity because they haven't been a month, they haven't been a Montreal in almost 15 years. I don't hate either idea. And also that's a good shout. I do think that is a good call about looking past Trent seven because I think that say, putting the idea that he is ducking speedball is also like putting the idea that well, we are going to be Trent seven, which I think what if Trent seven wins? I think the best man will win and he's got to lead the hell out of each other. But like you said, the Montreal moment is rare. But also the November moment would be like, I don't know, that's a tough call. John Alba who host the extreme life from that Hardy podcast pipes in and says, Moose almost came out of Lake of reincarnation as me, John, plug your ears when we get to that segment. I have a lot to say. I was sports entertain don't sports disappointed. We'll talk about it. Some have already heard my thoughts. It's not that I didn't appreciate it. It's just that I've seen some of this before. We'll talk about it soon. The hex confront in Masha after Lish walks off because she's so stressed about going to the Hardy compound. And then Marty Bell gets a win over Masha slam a bitch. This is all setting up a knockouts sorry, knockouts, a tech team championship match it against all odds. They're doing that on the countdown tomorrow night. It's going to be the hex. That's Alison K. and Marty Bell, one of the only long standing, I don't know, not even knockouts tag teams, they're just a tag team, a women's tag team that exists. They're coming in to take on Masha Lisha or I guess they're known as the militia. The match with Marty and Masha was fine. The idea here is Alison K just got leverage Masha, you know, Masha lost the match via rollup. I mean, to be fair, my only note is Masha is really just bullying this girl. Okay. Oh cheating. Marty Bell rolled up the most devastating move in the game with cave help that was literally the match. It's not wrong with that. Respectfully these women's beat each other up more Masha D being I swear I can speak English more Masha beating up Marty Bell, but not tonight. And by the way, yes, I agree with John wrestling is absolutely subjective. That's the beauty of the art. When we disagree, we don't hate each other. I mean, maybe we do. Maybe we do. I actually hate this guy. I hate this guy. I loved Oprah. Don't cause honesty. My favorite. Don't tell the people. Look at confused. AJ Francis and first class around stage of G and Miller. Before this all started, AJ Francis stole PCO's black rose while step to land her enzyme book cider backstage kind of wondering, hmm, what do I do? And of course, AJ Francis has no frickin clue that he took the rose. So lights on lights off while they're on the stage, PCO attacks first class because they took the rose. He gets the rose security back them off. And tomorrow night we discover step to landers answer to PCO. The build to the wedding begins. Cress the star. It's happening. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. How do you do that in French? Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. I will not offend our French viewers. I will. You can do that. You're Canadian. I'm a stupid American. I already got a lot going against me. It's fine by me. I love the idea that Zaire Brookside is invested in this because she just loves love. She just wants to love love. She got involved with this whole thing because of the match where PCO showed up from under the ring while step to lander had the match with Zaire Brookside. Now she's just like, I want to be friends with you because love and it's cute and stupid, but it's perfect. She's going to be the best, the, the maid of honor at the wedding. This honestly, I was so sports entertained by the Hardy compound that all is forgiven. I kind of forgot about this and now that you've reminded me, it's so fine. It was great. I loved it. Because of this, we're going to get PCO versus Rich Swan tomorrow night against all odds. So it's all just coming together. Rich Swan is going to pass away. I mean, AJ Francis will be there, so I'm sure there'll be some sort of eventual digital media championship match at a taping and that'll be that. Someone saying that's a, you know, Steph and Ziya become a team, sure. Why not? I still want to see, I want to see this all end with one of two things. They do the wedding. They get to slam aversary and, you know, does anyone have any reason why these two should not be joined together? You either have Mance Warner come out. He's current GCW world champion and he's like, no, she's, she's my girlfriend. What are we doing here? Or Mac Cardona comes back because that's how we started until Cardona unfortunately got himself injured. So if he's able to come back in time, fantastic. If we can get there, I'm all for it. I agree with that. I mean, that's, I feel like that's what it's heading. I hope it's Mac Cardona. I don't watch GCW because if you guys watch our show, thank you so much. But I am big baby and GCW is notorious for blood shenanigans. Yes. And let also, yes, and I am too soft. Shana blood doesn't hit the same Danny Luna defeats Tasha steals. She starts off. First of all, this match kicks really just finishes off. There's a rope assisted blue thunder bomb that looks good from Danny Luna and then Luna overpowers steals to hit the Luna landing for the win. It's a big celebration from Spitfire onward upward. They go and Lars Frederickson backstage says I got a big, you know, big challenge for you to bump you up the car. I guess that's coming up at the tapings because they didn't announce anything for against all odds. Anything to add? I will say that Luna landing at the end when she readjusted from, I guess it was a hurricane run back to her on her shoulders to Danny Luna. I want you again versus Jordan Grace just because meet, meet, meet, and it was great. I for wait, who said it last week's skirt steak I live, I love skirt steak is very funny. You're right. That was good. Spitfire. Man, again, this is a tag team. I'm glad they're not splitting them up or at least seemingly not. I do like that they're doing a teasing of like, okay, they, they were fresh. They were new. They got a win. Then they lost now. They're trying to reestablish themselves. So this, if this is a tag team that's going to stick around like the hex does, then maybe this is the story you tell. Maybe the hex win the TNA knockouts tag titles and maybe you have Spitfire reestablish themselves and at slam aversary. The hex dropped the tag titles to the Spitfire. I mean, it's also nice. Something that I've been personally complaining about is we're not complaining. Just critiquing feels like to use the word complain, just critiquing about. We want more knockouts tag teams. And this is a great way to keep them together and the hex. I mean, I don't know what Rosemary's doing, being raving in the rafters, but we've got more girls. You know what I mean? The normal. Masha Lisha. And I feel like I'm missing somebody. There are plenty. No, I'm just kidding. There aren't that many tag teams. There's like three, four at a time. So my point is move. Never mind. I'm pointing it out. Someone already pointed it out. Just kind of show up once and they're either a tag team that exists or they're a new tag team and then they win the tag titles or there's another tag team that exists and then they split up and they feel like there's this has been kind of the problem with establishing a knockouts tag division or any women's tag division in wrestling is that often they just kind of don't stick around very long. They exist. They win. Then they lose and split up. WWE did that with the women's tag division forever. You could scout it from a mile away if they weren't a established tag team, then they were split up and put aside. Absolutely. I will say when I first started watching wrestling, if we talk about WWE specifically, if you have the iconic or the riot squad, anybody else, who are you? You know, and again, this is not just a critique of TNA. I think this is a critique of a lot of women's division that your tag teams are, we put two together, we have one established team, a franken team, an enhancement team and then we cycle them out. I wish there were established teams. I think there are enough women who aren't doing anything at the moment, but that's just my opinion. I think we're going to start seeing a little bit more here and there, but for now, getting spitfire, those essential story wins, that's going somewhere. Originally, I was under the impression that they were going to do what a lot of companies do and that is they won the big one, then they lost and now they're going to lose Christ as a conscious. One turns on the other. That's it. Now it's starting to feel like could they cast that seat of doubt later on? Absolutely. The loser between the two on the on the death chart, the loser was Jody threats. So Jody has means to get upset about that and be jealous down the line if they wanted to go there. But instead, they're going to hopefully play it up as you two can win. You just need to figure out how to win singularly and then as a team. And I'm hoping that that builds them up as a tag team moving forward and we stopped doing the individual matches just to make them feel better, start pushing them as an actual tag team in a division that unfortunately doesn't have a lot of tag teams. I mean, I agree. I kind of never understood making your tag team do singles matches if they're supposed to be learning how to work in cohesion. If they're already singles wrestlers, especially if they're like quote unquote a franken team, why not have them trained together? Why not go against other tag team? So they learn how to if you're going to cheat, cheat, if you're going to know if you're going to play it straight, win the tag, win the tag and knowing your partner, when not to make sure they tap or when to jump in. I don't know. It does to me, like you said, doesn't make sense to do it for the make somebody else feel good when you as a tag team should be doing tag team stuff. Let's get in your super chats, get in your Hopper chats, we are getting into the meatiest of the meaty part of the show. Joe Henry's back stage with Gia Miller. This kind of kicks off some very interesting commentary from a lot of people, a lot of different takes on this. Henry says he wants to level up, learn a thing or two, wants to be taken seriously as a main event player, and he wants to become the best in the world. So he took on the services of a steel, who of course, you know, Sam Punk's best friend, A steel has connections to TNA and to see him punk and to Chicago as well. And he says he'll help Henry destroy the glass ceiling that he's currently hiding under in walks. Frankie Kazarian. I love that Kazarian mentions putting on a clinic and Henry just just shouts back. Oh, that patient died because he lost the man. He killed him. That was the clinic. The patient died. I'll tell you, because there you got to fight that man. That was it. Like, what kings are not taught? They are born. I'm like, that's not a good thing. Why do you think that's a good thing? And then Ace makes Joe Henry versus Kazarian tomorrow night against all odds. So I saw that some discourse. I saw a few people saying, you know, A steel with Joe Henry is not something they wanted. I'm on the other side of that. I think a steel, first of all, the connection to Chicago, second of all, the connection to winning and having champions and having a pedigree, a steel is not known dominantly as the person who was involved in an AW altercation in 2021. That has kind of moved forward for a lot of people and some people don't even know about it. They just know he's a guy from Chicago. He's well liked there and he's connected to CM Punk. He's his best friend, Joe Henry wants to be better. And this is the guy who'll do it. And putting him in a match with Kazarian is a very good way to kickstart that. What were your thoughts with everything? Because I saw it in your face. I don't know if you agreed. No, I was at first, I was like, wow, what the hell? I'm trying not to swear because I'm trying to hold back my answer because I was, I was sports entertained. I remember us talking about how we love Joe Henry and this viral moment that he's having, making these songs and whatnot. But how do you transition from being a, I can beat you up your Joe Henry's bitch? You know, to someone being taken seriously. I think what he's doing now and especially getting someone like Steele, for better or for worse, whether you like him or not, this is a good look because Steele has a name to him. Like Joel said, he has a pedigree behind him and he has a connection to CM Punk. And whether you like that man or not, he puts butts in seats. This is great for Joe Henry in his own merit, I'm sorry, I'm super congested y'all. For Joe Henry in his own merit, who's having a super viral moment with making his music trying to chart with his music, actually charting, I think like number two or number three. And I don't want to say the wrong thing. And then go ahead and tweet quote team, yes, at the very well in the UK. We'll put it. Yeah, he's doing very well all over the world. And I'm like, in his own merit to me, this is a great way to transition him. Without making him have to do something so drastic, that's so far out, like a blood and guts match, you know what I mean, or something like that. To me, this is fantastic. And because they know you about to get beat up and this is the perfect guy to do it. Because for someone not in the design, not the design, oof. For someone not in the system, we sure hate you too. Remember when you were yelling at Jade and Gia? I remember, be him up, Joel Henry, be him up. There's also something very interesting in that CM Punk during his time off, his injury time off has been spending most of his time at the PC and around NXT talent. And right now, TNA and NXT are working together and a steel is certainly welcome around WWE is not contracted to them. But there's there's a synergy there that comes with it and Joe Henry, obviously a lot of wrestling fans are talking about him in this crossover era. So he's over with the NXT crowd, he's over with the TNA crowd, whatever you can do to make Joe Henry work, this is a good first step in my opinion. I don't think he needed to stand alone. I think having someone represent him, he doesn't need to be a full time manager, a steel. I just think he needs to make sure that he gets over the importance of Joe Henry being a serious top level wrestler. >> And I think even and maybe- >> He burns people at the last second in a promo, sorry. >> I'm hoping or maybe this is me looking too much into it. That if you are someone who is going to like, well, he did all of these things. Maybe this is a chance for you to change your opinion about people. It's wrestling, people move on and people are allowed to change. And I've heard of worst things happening for real, for real. This is not the worst, let people move on. And if this is a good way to make it, you know what, to make it whatever, I'm with it. Cuz I love Joe Henry and I want it to succeed and I want A sales to see. So why not? Why not? Let people get their money. >> Yeah, exactly. And it's all going to end up with a King of the Mountain Match at Slamiversary, anyway. I believe, I want Joe to show up on Tuesday, by the way, in that battle royal. If that happens, when I tell you, I normally don't watch NXT on Tuesdays, because my brain can only take so much wrestling seven days of the week. >> Facts. >> But I am a Joe Henry stan. I want this man, him and Jordan Grace, him Jordan Grace and Zelina Vega have a special place in my heart. I don't know these people from a can of paint, but I want them to succeed so bad in life that I would start watching frickin NXT, I would do it, I would do it, I would do it. >> I was thinking about this the other day, and one of the, it's not a negative, but it's just one of the things that I wish wasn't the case was that NXT Heatwave is before Slamiversary. And the battle royal is for a spot at Heatwave challenging for the NXT Championship. I really wanted someone like Joe Henry to have an NXT Championship match, a standout championship match at Slamiversary instead had Slamiversary come first, doesn't need to win, he just needs to have a very strong showing against a top champion. But it's not the way it's looking, however, if he has a good showing in battle royal and maybe gets taken out by nefarious means, I'm pretty sure people will be okay with that. And if the Scottish guy gets taken out by the Scots in Gallis, now we're going. >> Listen, I will say that I've only seen clips of what happened at the end of the Jordan Grace Roxanne Perez match. I'm angry and I feel like I respect why they did what they did, but I don't know if my heart can take that a second time. You know what I mean? We're going to talk about that in a few minutes when we get to the ash by elegant squash and the Jordan Grace promo, July is shaping up to be a very fun month. I'm looking forward to being a money in the bank representing Fightful and of course at Slamiversary in Montreal doing the same thing, plenty of wrestling coming up system, hardy compound, here we go. Something was crackling. I think it's some rain. Okay, sorry. Do you want to do, you'd like to this? >> I loved this in fact. I just need to go blow my nose if you give me one second because I'm so congested. >> All right, here we are, John Albert's here. >> What's next? 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I liked the way it was shot. I liked the way it looked and it had a lot of good stuff to it. I want to bring on someone who's very close to us and I said we'd have a disagreement. I hope you don't mind crest the star. He's going to join us by the audio, but the one and only John Alves with us now. Good morning. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. >> In my brain. I always wanted to hear things. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. Hello, friends. I'm not trying to hijack your show. You sent me this link for the record. >> I did. >> Because I wanted this conversation to happen with someone who is connected to mass and has these conversations and I know you've talked about it on the podcast as well and you were also promoting it as something to watch. Listen, like I said, it was shot very well. It was very fun to tell you now. It wasn't for me. >> What I think what I said was if you love the hearty, broken hearty universe stuff, if you love the compound stuff, you're going to love it. >> I think that's kind of the nature of how this stuff goes with him at this juncture. I think Matt's approach is much more aimed at someone like Ms. Starr over here who Matt loves the "casual" fan who's not necessarily super in the weeds of some other of the more intense elements of it and it is the definition of sports entertainment for sure. I'll tell you this, Joel, when I saw it, he said to me, he's like, you totally hated it, didn't you? And I was just like, no, I didn't hate it because I knew exactly going in what it was going to be and I kind of expected it to be exactly what we saw. >> I want to know, Chris, I'm curious because you mentioned earlier in the crossover that you haven't watched any other broken universe stuff before. This was the first time you've seen it. >> Interesting. That's why I'm really interested in the take on this. So go ahead. Let me have it. Let's hear it. >> At first, I was sports confused, then I was sports entertained. And then as again, I said this in the crossover as a fine connoisseur of drag, this was camp. Oh my God, this was so funny. This made no sense and didn't have to. It didn't have to. Why was Eddie Edwards a wolf? Because he was the lone wolf, opened up your third eye. Why did Alicia Edwards get beheaded? She's annoying and she's from Boston. Who cares, I'm from New York. Again, this was a fever dream. Great. Another murder on TNA. This was funny. Ryan Myers getting beat up by all of his demons. >> The shit was funny. That was so funny. >> Corny is hell, but it was funny. >> At some point, it's one of those things where it's like, bro, not everything has to make sense. I choose to be sports entertained and I was very thoroughly sports. It was funny. And then again, like Super Mario Brothers, who you wait, oh, it was a dream. So wait, you're mad that Alicia didn't get beheaded? >> [LAUGH] >> Listen, this is great. I loved it. >> It's funny. You say it didn't make sense. I think everything in it actually made sense. It was, you know, it was corny, it was over the top corny, and that's what it was intended to be. And that's not going to be for everyone, and that's totally fine. You know, I think this stuff in small doses is good. I don't think it's something that you want to inundate your television show with. But, you know, it's funny, Krista, because like, I mean, this is the first one you're seeing, like, Jolie, you'll probably agree with me. I'd say this is like, of all the cinematic stuff with the hardies, this is probably like a sea tier compared to like some of the, like, I mean, the final deletion is legitimately like game-changing stuff. Tag team apocalyptic is one of the most entertaining things you're ever going to see. The Great War was fantastic stuff. Like, that was all definitely, significantly above this. But, you know, I'm biased because I've gotten to know the family so well, and like, seeing the kids have their moments and like, gothic baby, you'll hear it on this week's podcast. But gothic baby now, whenever someone like arrives at the door to drop something off, she like, force pushes them like she did in that, like, she got it over with herself. She popped herself with it. And like, hey, Maxwell did like a sweet looking leg drop from the latter on that. So, you know, you just, you can't take this stuff super seriously. And yeah, I thought it was cute, you know? It's funny because like, as someone who has a kid, I really do appreciate that Matt wanted to get all the kids involved. And he wanted to make, because they're part of this whole house-hardy stuff. It's fun. At the same time, as someone who hates child actors, like, I'm watching this and I'm just like, I can't, I can't do like a child doing a poltergeist thing, I can't do it, you know? So for me it was like, man, I really, I appreciate and I respect Matt for doing this and making a moment that him and his family are going to look back on and like, really love and cherish together. And then like, the other part of me was just like, you know, what did the kids have to like? Well, I think it's because, I think it's because Maxwell was such an integral part of all the early stuff. Yes. Yes. You know, like, like, the question of the thing is like, if you go back and watch this stuff, Maxwell was one year old when all that stuff was happening. And he as a baby was like a character within this broken universe. I mean, he pinned disco Inferno, which was a win for everyone. And, and, you know, like, it was a legit thing. And I think that's why he sees the, the, you know, the kids integrated into this and, you know, say what you want, gothic baby is like a legit draw. Like, she does signings and shit. Like, I mean, it's, it's like pretty incredible. I love gothic baby on TikTok. Yeah. I love revian TikTok. And I've taken revvies make up always looks great. So I'm always looking. Yeah. Yeah. So I just, I sat there and I was like, the way they played off-listen, Robby was so many people spent so many hours saying, Oh, those two, they're going to tear each other apart when they see each other. And just the way they did it in this was that was well done. I was who's to say that's the last of it. You'll see, you know, and considering it was all a dream, it's probably not the first or the last time. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, I, again, I, just cause I'm associated with Matt doesn't mean like, I'm like, Oh my God, all of this is made. Look, it was, it was a cute little TV segment. It was harmless for what it was. I told him his missed opportunity was when, when Moose came out of the lake as number nine, I was like, broken mat, not screaming. Nice. Like in his broken mat. I said, that was a big missed opportunity there. But, you know, I mean, the crazy thing is they film all that stuff in one night, you know, and like, they shoot till five in the morning. And then I heard Moose didn't even get a chance to like shower after going into the lake. You have to like get to the airport ASAP. So like, you know, I've propped all them for doing that. And you know, it's too, it's a small production crew. It's not like there's a big production crew doing something like this. So, you know, that's a 13 minute mini movie they did. And, you know, I mean, kudos kudos to all involved. It's not going to be for everyone, Joel. But if there's someone, if one person, like Cresto over here is sports entertained, then very heavily sports entertained. I want to now go back and watch that maybe in chronological way, be watch the the boppers first, then go back to chronological order. I know what I'm expecting now. I know what I'm getting into a lot of people's. I've heard it saying that it's bad. Don't even waste your time. But now that I know what I'm getting into. And if you guys say this is a seed tier, like legitimately, and Joel, I think you'd agree with this. Like, I mean, the final deletion changed wrestling and and like the pandemic, like the undertaker doesn't have his last match without the final deletion. I mean, I mean, it's crazy in that sense. And, you know, you see more and more Easter eggs. Like, I actually thought the coolest thing about this segment was for the first time ever, we went into their childhood home, which was their legit childhood home in that, which was Gilbert Hardee's, you know, their dad. That was his house that is on the compound. And I thought that was just a cool little Easter egg, you know, that's a the compound is a character in all this stuff. And I think that's all very interesting. But yeah, that's, that's just kind of my thoughts on it. And I suspect that they're going to have a pretty interesting next week or so, the Hardee's. We're going to talk about that in just a second. But I don't want to take up too much more every time, John, go ahead, plug your stuff and let people know where they can find everything. Yeah. Well, thanks. Thanks for bringing me in. You can check out the extreme life. Matt Hardee, dropping a six AM. We talk all about this match or the segment, I should say, and address some of the rumor. And you know, we taped it a couple of days ago. I had a chance to see the segment beforehand. And yeah, I mean, it's great stuff. And, you know, the one thing I will always say, Matt is a very transparent person. And I think he recognizes that this stuff is not going to be for everyone. But I'm proud of him for the shape that he's in. He's in excellent shape right now. And I think him and Moose are going to have a match that I think will surprise people. I think it will be much better than what people are going to put out there on the internet, you know, and it'll be fun. So yeah, good stuff, guys. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thank you, John. So yeah, take care. John. Thank you. Quick. He's fast. He is fast. He just knows to just cut it off before anyone. Okay, now let's bury the shit out of now. I'm just going to do that. But seriously, thank you. Thank you to John Alba for joining us. He does host the extreme life of Matt Hardy. Go check that out. If you want to know more about what's been going on, not only House Hardy, but also with Matt's TNA return. And of course, I may as well get to it now for the best buy bucks in the business, Fightful Select reported. Jeff Hardy is going to be a free agent. As of Friday, PW Insider did report and Fightful Select was able to confirm that TNA is in talks with Jeff Hardy. One could assume that you're going to see the aforementioned Hardy at tomorrow night Chicago against all odds events. If that happens, press the star, your thoughts on a Hardy Boys reunion in TNA. I feel, and this is me being a Hardy Boys apologist. These guys have done so much for wrestling. Let these boys frolic together as many times as they want together. I don't I don't hate it. I don't hate it. Motor City machine guns are not there right now. And I feel like we need an elder team role that can still go and do the matches. So I will accept this. Let them frolic together. Let the like if Edge and Christian want to get together, let them frolic together. That's how I feel about it. My general feeling is if Jeff is healthy and Jeff is good. And you know what I think most people know what that means, then yeah, go for it. That's fair as well. I just might be in there helps too. Yeah, I again, your your sibling can only do so much for you when it comes to a lot of things. That being said, I'd be excited to see the Hardy Boys do this one last time do their last run. If Jeff's good and Jeff is healthy and Jeff is is good to go and whatever that means for Jeff Hardy. Great. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the hardies challenge for the tag titles against the system at slam a versa instead, which is like I wouldn't hate it, but I would just we're just we're splitting off like we're getting the Nemeth this month and then you get the hardies next month and it's just a really like what what happened? The tag division needs a little bit more. The Nemeth's so new and we're going to talk about that in the main event and what that kind of did to ABC and the other tag teams that are in the division. But you bring in the hardies, they have, you know, they can do the expedition of gold gimmick or whatever. I don't necessarily want the hardies to revisit everything and rehash everything, but like go out do you tea and a thing when the maybe when the tag titles, maybe not. Again, the system is just so dominant and not taking away from the product for me. I'm not sitting here being like, Oh, God, it's a sick of the system. No, I, I like the way the promos are shot for the system. I like the way that they're presented. I like the way they wrestle for the most part like they they they work. Okay. So for me, having the hardies joined into the tag division, that's fine. It's a good addition to a baby face side of the tag teams that are needed. I agree. And again, we talked about this week after week and even in this show already, the system works in the sense that nobody likes them. They're not bad wrestlers, but they are doing their job. They are you are heels. You are lucky. This wasn't dream. Like people genuinely dislike you. Like if you think about it, that was real. How much time and effort Matt Hardy had to have been Justin Brian Myers alone to do that and set that up just to mess with you and how angry to continuously set that up. Nobody likes you guys. That's crazy. He turned one of you guys into a wolf. That's crazy. An American wolf, no less. It was so it was camp silly. It was fine. You know what? I'm gonna I'll say I'll say it like this. And I think anyone from TNA who might be listening is going to be upset by me saying this. I put out that tweet going into the 20th anniversary TNA impact show last week about inviting streamers to watch and react to the first Hardy's deletion show that they did in impact at the time and how that was a big thing. And it was a polarizing moment. But the idea being that we're going to take all these content creators who don't necessarily watch impact. And we're going to get their reaction to this completely out of the box camp, whatever you want to call it production that we're doing with the hardies. And the reactions were like everything you everything Cressa said tonight, honestly. And it's not a bad thing. I'm just saying like this is you you you reacted exactly the way people did when they first saw any Hardy compound video. So for me, knowing last week that they invited streamers who don't necessarily watch TNA to start watching TNA and stream it on their platforms. And they were invited to do it. That's how I knew like we're going to do a Hardy thing and they're going to do a combat thing because these people don't know. And they're going to get the reactions and the reactions are going to get shown. And it's like that's business. That's that is part of the wrestling business in 2024 in the streaming world. And like TNA used to boy impact used to be on Twitch. You can simulcast on Twitch. This is just their start of trying to get new fans in a new creative way by using an old technique that worked for them seven years ago. Well, it worked on me, pal. That's fine. The target audience or some people would call a mark. That's fine. Because you know what I talked about this on another show, the AJ Styles fake out retirement. There were people who thought that was real or that it was going to be real. They thought that he was going to retire and that was going to be a thing. Not everyone watches wrestling, you know, starting in 1999. Not everyone started in 2009. Not everyone started in 2019. Like there is different times for wrestling. So everyone joins when they join and they jump on and off in some cases. Not everyone has been watching as much as I watch, which for better or worse, that's how I've consumed. I'm a completionist. So really the answer to this is wrestling has to finally end so that I can continue with my life. Never, Simba. All right. Ash by elegance defeats Jada Stone. I love that they gave Jada Stone a little bit of like promo time when George Sorey, the personal assistant to Ash by elegance came out then said get out of the ring and then Ash, they show what she shows up. They talk about her battleground commentary, argues about why she was there. And then you have Rosemary watching on from the stands with everything going on ahead of against all odds tomorrow night. Jordan Grace did have a promo afterwards saying anyone from any company, it's an open challenge. Go ahead and do it. Ash wins with rare fight air. Rosemary has a shift. That's worth remembering. The Tatum Paxtley stuff. It's really starting to feel like Tatum Paxtley is going to be the challenger and that Tatum and Rosemary might start working together. And I could see Jordan Grace and Ash by elegance having to form a Maclin and Santana-esque team, not the same but different in that they're forced to team together for the sake of overcoming the evil, weird, dark forces of Tatum Paxtley and Rosemary. Go ahead. I'm closing my eyes because I want that reality to not, I'm really, I don't know what Jordan, not Jordan, what Ash by elegance is. I don't know what the character's point of view is. And every time I think I begin to get it, I personally agree with commentary with what Tom Hanifin said, you going over to NXT, you know, however you feel about her and how you're feel about her, but you messing up what could have been a historic moment is a little egregious. Like, I agree with it that like, sis, what are you doing? And I, I don't want to see her tag with Jordan Grace. I don't care. I feel like there's got to be a better way. There's got to be a better way. Maybe it's me. It's maybe it's me. It's me, Jesus. Maybe it's me. Um, I don't know anything about Tatum Paxtley to give you my two cents. I don't, again, I don't watch NXT. I need a day not to watch wrestling because it's wrestling literally seven days a week. I love you all. Please respect me. Um, so I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how this shakes out. I did find it curious that she mentioned all companies, but not a w. I mean, it's not going to be a w. I know, but still, I mean, like, I don't think it's going to be. Uh, I don't think it's going to be CML a lie there as she did say that, but I don't think it's going to be that, you know what I mean? Yeah, we'll just add some ads in. It's funny how Jordan Grace said everyone but a w wasn't crazy. Okay, all right. Everyone, everyone knows that the expectation is it someone from NXT. If it's Tatum Paxtley, listen, there are going to be people who are like, Oh, who's this or, you know, TNA is losing in this partnership. And here's the reality of it. Slamiversary is months away. I'm starting to think that it's Jordan versus either Rosemary or Ash by elegance or they do a three way, whatever it is. But do we get there by having some sort of Tatum Paxtley Rosemary unholy alliance and then Jordan Grace and Ash have to do some sort of partnership partner match in one of the, you know, one of the tapings. And that sets up Ash by elegance and Jordan Grace. Like there, there is a way to make it work, but it should be Becky Lynch. It should be Becky Lynch challenging. That's where it should be. I mean, I'll be real with you. TNA right now is in a good position. I feel like in their WWE TNA thing, they've got someone like Joe Hendry and Jordan Grace at the helm. Someone, two people who look great, talk great, whatever. Again, I don't know anything about this young girl, Tatum Paxtley. I wish her the best. I'm sorry if I saw her in the street, my apologies. So we'll see how it works out. Like I said, I wanted to see, oh my God, what's that girl's name? Live out here. But I don't, I feel like she just challenged for something. And I don't again, I don't watch NXT. But I see that girl wrestle one time. I was like, oh, that girl, she doesn't meet. That's me. So Lyra, just for anyone who doesn't know, Lyra. Yeah, Lyra Valkiria was the NXT women champion defeated Becky Lynch and is now on Raw. She was recently in the finals of the Queen of the Ring tournament. She lost to nine jacks, but has been, you know, doing really well on Monday Night Raw. I would love to see Lyra. I don't think it's going to be Lyra, but when she was NXT champion, Lyra Valkiria's best friend was Tatum Paxtley. Tatum was a little creepy girl who was, you know, getting in the way. And then Tatum turned on Lyra, and they just did a blow off while Lyra went back up to main roster after she dropped the NXT women's championship to Roxanne Perez, right? I think so. Anyway, the point being here, Tatum Paxtley and Lyra are actually connected and you're not too far off. It's also giving Mickey James vibes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. They were not doing single-wife female. They were kind of doing, that was the name of the storyline. It was called single-wife female. They were doing more like friends getting creepy, like one in gold. It was, I don't know how to explain it. No, Kelly. No, no. Killer Kelly was kinky. That was different. Okay. No, no, you're right. You're right. Okay. But I don't know. I don't have the other one for reference, so I guess you're right. What do you work for it? Wilchism is saying, I would feel some type of way if I'm TNA. I mean, they send you a sky to Marigold in July. I, again, I don't want people to think that this partnership is going to be a one-to-one. And also, we don't know how entrenched TNA is going to be with NXT. I continue to remind people we have seen one crossover talent, and that's Jordan Grace. And I understand that there is a high potential, potential that on Tuesday, we will be seeing TNA talent in NXT. However, given the way that Cody said it, other locker rooms can include our spec down and we can all be reading way too far into this. For the NXT, they're doing a battle royal for the NXT Championship match at the NXT PLC. But also, I'm just leaving it alone until I see who comes out tomorrow, and that'll kind of set the tone for me when it comes to this TNA, NXT stuff. My internet is dying. I am so sorry. The whole time you were talking, it sounded like Mr. Roboto, and I'm praying that I'm not disconnecting and lagging right now. That's why you see my head in my hands. No, you've been fine. Can you still hear me? I can hear you now, but everything you said, I heard every other word. I am so sorry. I am the worst co-host NA. No, you're fine. Don't worry about it. Let's get to the main event, Ryan and Nick Nemeth, defeat Ace of Baze. This is not surprising. I don't love the Ace of Baze have to eat the pin, and I have to eat the pin because the Nemeths are a new team that are getting a tag title shot. But I understand that the importance of getting the Nemeths over include beating a former tag team champion. That being said, Ryan Nemeth is a front knickknack, which I think we'll call the Rickknack, and then Nick does the regular knickknack for the win, Nemeth's win going into tomorrow night. Chris, start your thoughts. I'll never recover from the front ring, Ryan. I'll never recover. The Rickknack. It can't be the Rickknack because he's not Ryan Remit. Joe, for all your men, it's a wrestling society, and I don't know who that you have a microphone. Okay. All right. So just like now, my internet was dying during this match, so my notes are super minimal. I will say I did not like Ace of Baze losing to the Nemeth bros. I understand it. I understood why it happened. They worked over Chris Bay old D in the beginning, and then at the end, Nick Nemeth was getting really worked over, which I get to show his resilience or a caveat in case he loses to lose tomorrow because he was really getting beaten that last third. But in the same vein of sprucing up your tag divisions, to me, it does not make sense to have ABC lose here. I would have rather another team. It furthest two-story line, so he killed two birds of one stone, so I totally get it. But it's just I understand, but I don't like it. That's fair, and I fully get that. Again, the Nemeths are challenging for the tag titles. Tomorrow, Ace of Baze are going to have a match against Sir Eric Young and Josh Alexander. It's a very unexpected tag team match that they threw together for the show to get people on the card, but yeah, ABC are just kind of here and former champions that decided to be cannon fodder for Nemeths. That's what it is. It is what it is. I mean, I want to say this as a joke, but even I feel bad saying this is not mine. Okay, then. Are you sure? Final answer? I guess Motor City machine guns are gone, so somebody's got to do it so it wouldn't hurt too bad. We don't know where the Motor City machine guns are anymore. Jonathan's a Super Chat saying I miss Mickey James a lot. That sixth championship reign would come so easily right now with the state of the division, inductor into the TNA Hall of Fame while we're at it. I mean, Bound for Glory is the time when they normally do the inductions. I would love to see Mickey get in. I don't know if I necessarily want to see Mickey jump in and win another championship right away. I liked the last rodeo. You and I got to cover it from top to bottom. I think that may have been just the perfect way for her to finish up in TNA. But we'll see. Oh, no, it didn't. She dropped the title because she was injured. I was going to say, correct me if I'm wrong. The last rodeo ended. Her belly was injured. That's right. So I wouldn't be upset not so much if it was a title reign, but hear me out and I'm putting on my trombone hat. Do it. I would not be upset at an eventual Giselle. Giselle Shaw knocked out champion win followed by Mickey James coming to pick up what she never lost. That's fair because you can't have Deanna back. And Deanna, of course, was the one who won. Yeah, the rebellion match. And I think it would be enough time between now and then even to give Giselle two or three opponents before Mickey comes back. I don't know if Mickey took time off because she was injured or whatever have you. But I feel like that Giselle enough time to rebrand this character. If she wants to do something with Gail, cool. And that thing following up with Gail could be Mickey. And that's a very dominant one to punch if you're going to push her as to face your division. I'm not saying that right now because Jordan Grace is doing some fantastic stuff. Yeah, she is. I'm not ready to end the Jordan Grace reign, but I don't know what comes next for her once she does, you know, finish it up. We'll see. We'll see. We shall see against all odds is tomorrow night. We will be live doing a post show here on YouTube.com/fightful. You want to give predictions real quick on this? Let's do a spit. Spitfire. Oh, they're not on the card. But here the knockouts tag titles are on the line. Mushalisha take on the hex. New champs or no? I don't want to say that it's too soon or the not the design. Jesus Christ. Crushed the star, please. That same guy is in her face. I don't think it is too soon for them to drop the tag titles. However, I do think that it's going to be a poor night for the system. I think we get new champs and kudos to your mama. All right, then the hex are going to win. Yes, I'm sorry. I don't know if I made that clear. My apologies. Yes. The hex are going to win. I think we're getting new champs. Yes. Sorry. I'm fine with the hex winning. Like I said, bring him into slam, reverse redo the spitfire match or do a knockouts tag team championship ultimate ex match and make it real messy. We could do that to a Smosh Fest. Yup. All about it. Jonathan Gres speaking of Smosh Fest. Sammy Callahan, Jonathan Gresham, Inc. versus immune system. All I can think of is that meme. Disgusting. It must have been one of us. Disgusting. When he said, yo, Inc. versus immune system, but then it may begin. This is me reading too much into it. In the background, you see it flashing him coughing up in the mirror because they said, you tell you die in two, bro. And the white mask isn't gone unnoticed by me. This man is playing with portals. I don't know. I don't know. I'm only giving it to Gresham. I think I like this push. I like it getting creepy and weird. And yes, his immune system is strong, but I got this skull, man. And you can't, I don't know. I want to give it to Gresham. I want to give it to Gresham. I think it's Gresham. I think we're going to keep building him and he might be Speedball's first big challenger of Speedball wins the exhibition championship. I could see that. PCO takes on Richard Swan with AJ Francis. First class, PCO wins. Why are Richard Swan? Well, now why are you, now why are you in this? No, I hear in this. Why is one Mr. Swan? And now why is he in this? Because AJ Francis ain't going to be in it. Let Richard only take care of it. PCO wins this. I see a schmoz trying to happen. Maybe a schmoz could happen, but I see AJ getting spooky the duke. I, I, why, why, let's hold me Swan in this. I think PCO gets the win just so they can do the step to lander. I'm going to date you. Let's get married scenario. Joe Hendry with a steel takes on Frankie Kazarian. I'm looking forward to this match. They're really heating up Joe Hendry, man. What do you think between those two? I love it. I love it. If some reason, some way, somehow Joe Hendry takes it off moves, who beats a bunch of people who we're really into. I'm here for it. Kazarian's about to get a well justified beating. I did not forget you yelling at Jade and Gia, especially yelling at Jade to call you the king. Kings don't yell. You're a jerk. Okay. So Joe Hendry, I can't wait for this, uh, buff man, no singing songs, but I'm still going to beat you up. I live. I'll leave. Joe, Joe Hendry. Sorry. Joe Hendry. The ABC match is not on the card anymore. Oh, there it is. It's back. That's so weird. Josh Alexander and Eric Young versus the ABC. That's such an unmatched, isn't it? Especially because ABC just lost. Is this the match we bring up the ABC? I don't hate it. I mean, Alexander and Young aren't exactly doing anything else at the moment. They could continue teaming up for a little while. I'm thinking that too. And it's like, technically, you would be losing to two Franken teams or two teams that don't team regularly. We got the brothers who never team before, but whatever their brothers and Alexander and Young, they were on team Canada a million years ago and our own mistake and with that. Josh wasn't, but EY was. Okay. So again, we're losing again, essentially, to another Franken team. I've had it. They took the pin here, but then you pin me. I could see it. I could see it. But again, I don't think we need to be getting rid of tag teams. You know what I mean? I wouldn't be against them telling the story of we can't beat makeshift tag teams who are superstars that just kind of come together. So maybe it's time for us to go away. Yeah, get back together later on. And then he got Josh and Eric Young kind of joined the tag team division as baby faces to go after the system again. Let ABC get to other stuff. WQ? Yeah. So I'm going to give it to Alexander and Young and let this be the fraction in ABC. I hate it, but that's a good idea. I hate it. But again, I hate it, but I understand. Yeah. Rask will take on Mike Santana and Steve Mack from this match has the potential to be the match of the night. It can steal the show. I am leaning towards Santana and Macklin. Let the Raskles, you know, look good and defeat, but also look like little bitches in the best way possible. But Macklin and Santana get the win. Shake hands go their separate way or just shake hand and then, you know, punch each other in the mouth or something. I too vote for Santana and Macklin. The little demon on my shoulder says the Raskles cheat to win. We love a good cheater. And because they cheat to win, Santana and Macklin are now double pissed because now I'm in a situation that I don't want to be in. We both said one and done and you sprayed me in the face. And now I punch Macklin and now I'm pissed. And now I want to do a cage match for a no-ho. You know what I mean? I wouldn't be upset with that, but I'm also either good. I would like Macklin and Santana to win this one. I think that's the way to go have Santana and Macklin move up by moving on and getting the win. Then we're done with the Raskles with the Macklin story. Move on to the next. Speaking of moving on to the next, Mustafa Ali and Trent Seven for the X Division Championship. Ali's going to get a huge hometown pop campaign sing and Mike Bailey are banned from ringside in this match. You feel like Ali's going to get the win. And Ali we trust this match is going to be a slob or docker. If that tag match has the potential to be the match of the night, so does this one. This match is going to cook. Now we may be look overlooking Trent Seven, but Trent Seven is going to slap the chest meat off of Ali and I can't wait. I can't wait. Now with those two men banned from ringside secret service, you notice it's not. I thought that wording was very peculiar. As did I so we'll be keeping an eye on that. The system take on Ryan and Nick Nemeth for the TNA tag titles. I could see it. I could see a hot shot decision here. I could see it. Nobody likes the system and the system to their credit to their merit. They're doing their job. No one is supposed to like this system. You've done a great job of making people like, yo, give us those titles. Give us those titles, give us those titles. And maybe the hardy compound was the mine F that they needed to drop all the titles tonight or all the ones that they're defending rather. Yeah, I think the system are going to win. Okay. I don't think that I think it's the Nemez brothers. That's fair. I think the system we're going to retain and we're still working on them as the tag champions. There's they're they're building some some baby faces. They're building more baby faces than they are heel tag teams, but they're like that. Maybe I'm a hater. Maybe it's because I don't like the system. You're supposed to love and respect them, but hate them for the performance that that yeah, anyway, Jordan Grace, TNA Knockouts World Championship Open Challenge. We talked about it earlier. We don't know who it is. It feels like Jordan Grace would get the win. And then we start moving towards the next chapter. I agree. I unfortunately don't know who it's going to be. I'm sure it's going to be a banger of a match, but whoever this is going to lose. Unfortunately, I'm sorry. It's that young lady. I think given the amount of matches that are already on the card and the stories that are being told, this is one that's just going to be a beat in a storyline. I don't expect it to be a fantastic, amazing 10 out of 10 match. I just expect a good story. That's that's kind of where I'm keeping it because if this is part of the TNA NXT story and their partnership, if it stayed in Paxtley, great. That'll start the Rosemary in the ash by elegant stuff. There there's something in, you know, in the pot that's cooking over there. Fair. I'll accept it. And finally, a broken rules match for the TNA World Championship. Matt Hardy versus Moose. Jeff Hardy comes back at the end of the night after Moose has already retained his championship. And then they do the delete together. Yes. Brother Nero, I knew you'd come and everyone's excited because Jeff Hardy's back. I agree with that outcome. I was going to say, unfortunately, Moose comes back in a true Jeff Hardy fashion a dollar too late while he does his dance up the ramp. Yeah, no. Yeah, I think Moose retains here. I think it's going to be a fun match if if if this it's it's an in ring match. Never mind what I was going to say. I'm excited for it like that. Jeff joins the system and says, that's for not letting me be in the latest Hardy compound video. That's crazy. Throw him in the Lake of reincarnation. He's wild and send him back. He doesn't even send him back. Send him back. Exactly. 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