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Episode 1362 - From Prison To A Flip-Flop Empire

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12 Jun 2024
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A.G. Gregoroff, the founder of Toehold Flip Flops, joins the show to talk about why he makes super high-end, expensive flip flops, all the insane things that happened to him during his two years in jail, and how he gets the insanely rare animal leather his company uses for its flip flops.


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I'm a massive fucking fan." Like, for real. The flip flops you guys are making, I don't know how to describe it. I mean, it's almost like fucking pimp my ride or, I mean, nobody's doing this in the United States of the world. Tell us how you did it. Thank you for having me. And think of them as like a Rolls Royce for your feet. It's kind of what it feels like. Go to his Instagram, pull up the toehold Instagram here for AG. It's fucking incredible what you're doing. Yeah, they've got all kinds of exotic leather shoes, leather sand or sandals, flip flops or whatever. Right? You had a fucking alligator on yours. They have a stingray elephant, like a king stingray. It's all ethically sourced. We have elephant, hippo, capefalo, wildebeest, shark, crocodile, alligator, and the absolute best quality in the world. The world. That was the world. There's nothing. So most people have never seen like an exotic leather before. Maybe they've seen like a watch strap or something along those lines. But I've just been psychotically dedicated and focused to finding the best stuff on the planet. So everything's made in the U.S. But we do source from some of the parks in Africa if an elephant dies from a lightning strike or... Yeah, pop it up on screen. Go to some of these shoes. These look like real animals. They are. Yeah, they are. That's elephant. So OJ Simpson died earlier this year. Any shot we're doing some OJ skid. Give me the hide. Oh. Did you do it? Oh, yeah. So you'd go with his ass first? Well, they would need to be... Probably those strong hands. Yeah. Oh, boy. Strong hands. Imagine his hands cutting through that leather, dude. You know? He could probably cut your production to tie him down in half, to be honest. Yeah, sure could. Yeah, sure. That's true. Just like hire all blonde women and have him cruising through there. Yeah. He's the woman now. He's got a goddamn steam whistle. We got quite a few blondes if you look at the Instagram. Oh, yeah. But with this company here, because it's on a million celebrities' Instagram. So guys that I follow, Brendan Shaw, I saw it on Mario Lopez. There's a million. Brian Callan's got them. You've never sent all of us, which they don't understand. All organic. No one's been paid a penny to talk about our stuff or to wear our stuff. I'll tip some of the models sometimes if they're coming out of town. But everything you see is completely disorganic. Our Instagram is just a document of my life. And it's been like that since I had one follower and over half a million. It's still exactly the same way. It's not. Show those right there, Bob. Those are my favorites. Yeah. Pop those up right there. Rattle snake. Look at that, dude. I like the Texas ones. Yeah. Texas ones were Gordon Ryan's idea. Was it really? Yeah. You just came from him, right? Yeah. You guys were getting IVs together? Yeah. You guys were getting IVs from waste to well over at his house. Did you hold hands when you were doing it? I don't know if you're scared of needles. Yeah. So I have to hold his hand any time he gets one. Like a spoon? Mmm. Like a spoon thing. Oh yeah. The hoses don't cross too much. Yeah. That way you're both on the same side too. Exactly. Exactly. Makes sense. Yeah. I mean, the quality on these is incredible. How much does a pair of these retail for? So our base model is about $400. Uh-huh. But those are our least popular pair. Okay. $1000 and up. That's what we sell just dozens and dozens and dozens of every single day, every day of the week, every month, every year. I see them on every celebrity's Instagram, all that shit, like you guys have become the go-to company in flip-flops. The wildest part to me is who gets into the apparel space and says, you know what I want to do? I want to change the flip-flop world and become the fucking maserati of flip-flops. Like, where does that start and where you a big flip-flop guy? In your life? Strolls Royce. Somebody in the chat said. That's Strolls Royce. That's not bad. That's a great one. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, so we, I never decided, and this is maybe how some of the best things happen, I never wanted to start a quote-unquote business. I was just tired of my personal flip-flops breaking, so I set out just to design my own. That's it. And it was really working through the process, figuring out the different materials. And I had a vision of what I wanted, but zero experience in the space. Zero, nothing. No. I've never, I only finished seventh grade. I didn't even do any crafts in school, nothing like that. So when I set out to do this, um, I've done Jiu Jitsu forever and the guy from another gym down the way he wanted a pair and then another dude seen him and he wanted a pair. And it's literally gone like that for the last seven years all the way to the president of El Salvador wants a pair. Like everybody wants a pair of them. Jesus Christ. I want a pair of them. Motherfucker. You brought me a t-shirt today. And I was like, cool. I'm a size 12. Work you way up to some flip flops. Okay. I'm in. I'm just a fan. And I was like, cause I see Callan. I'm homies with Callan. I'm like, well, fuck did Callan get these? Um, you know, speaking of great guys, Callan's a best unit. He's been on the show a million times. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. There's very few guys more genuine than him. I agree. He'll do anything for anybody. He has all the money in the world. He has all the connections in the world and he'll still stop and talk to anybody in the street. Yep. strangers his phone number and I'm like you gotta stop doing that. I've known him since 2000 and this he's been like this for 25 years. That best guy ever. So he's he's amazing but I became aware of them I think he was on maybe Theo Vaughn's show where they were unbreakable and you guys were in a gym and you were trying to get was it important to rip him in half or something? Brian Shaw the world's strongest man. Yeah to rip him in half and I guess he's not that strong. Yeah to pull the thong out so if you think of it in this way you're fucking pussy. Your foot obviously moves in a forward direction when you walk right you step in mud and then your thong usually pulls out on a pair of flip flops or someone steps on your heel the thong pulls out so the strength on these in that forward direction that you would take it's unbreakable. Now think of it like a like a truck you could break the flip flops if you pulled them sideways or some weird direction but think about if you had like a like a truck right like an F-150 and you wanted to tow something with it. The tow hitches were all the strength is but if I said it could tow 10,000 pounds and I hooked up a trailer to the door handle it would rip the door handle off because it's not designed to be pulled sideways. So if you step in mud anything you do you're not gonna break them at all. They're made with the strongest leather on earth all American made leather from the oldest tannery in the US and out of the stuff they make it's the absolute best quality. So if you're not in the flip flops or even if you are in the flip flops and you're just like a casual wear awesome I'm happy you're wearing flip flops we're not for you. Y'all message us don't look at our stuff we're not for you. We're for the guy who's a hardcore wearer who could get in a fight in a pair of flip flops who could hike up a mountain who could hunt who could do anything in a pair of flip flops and they're never gonna fail you. Yeah you just described me into a tee which is why I should have some again size 12 and you can send those right to the studio but interesting part about you is I didn't know this was you. So I had seen everybody posted on Instagram and everything else. Zero idea who the owner was or anything else I saw some hot ass in your Instagram videos see a bunch of celebrities always wearing these goddamn things and I decided to reverse look you up one day this is a while back because again we didn't know that you were gonna be on today and then I saw you and I was like oh my god he looks like a fucking prisoner. No offense. Thank you. And then I was like well maybe he was and that's how you came up with flip flops now you actually were in prison. So it was a county ran facility but I was incarcerated for yeah two years when I was I turned 19 and 20 in jail. So did you come up with flip flops because of jail? No nothing to do with it. I really I grew up in San Diego. Wait they don't wear flip flops in California they wear like those weird Asian orange crock. Yeah it's like a crock it's I don't know it's like a canvas kind of thing isn't it on the top we have a rubber canvas sorry so the rubber like crock's and they call them shower shoes. Okay and they're not cuz usually it's like not flip flops anymore. Oh they're not. No no shit. Some states do that but not California. We would figure out a way to make a weapon out of them. Okay. Now what did you go to prison for? So I got I was at a house visiting some relatives and the house got raided by the cops for drugs. So I literally had my luggage with me came to visit and just got caught up in this gigantic raid. It's a long story but the quick version is it was like a multi-acre avocado grove in San Diego in like the Bonzo area. The cops raided it there was multiple houses and some of the migrant workers that were there had something that being the bare minimum of like a clandestine methamphetamine. They had like some liquid and some Sudafed. That through some confidential informants they were able to seize the property. We're just collateral damage we had nothing to do with it. We weren't involved in any way but unfortunately you have to prove your innocence before you're set free. And it was but you're looking at like 15 to 16 years in prison. 15 of us went to jail. Everybody on the property went up doing time. Years later the case was looked at my uncle went up suing the the police department and winning. I subsequently got everything completely removed off my record. So as we said today no misdemeanors, no felonies, no nothing but I did two years in a supermax in San Diego down by the border. Jesus Christ which is pretty fucking intense. If you're not from that kind of world it is. To me it wasn't a big deal because I grew up in San Diego like in the gang neighborhood. So that was just kind of how things just it's part of what we did growing up. Sort of if you grew up hunting it's not a big deal if you see like guts from an animal just you grew up hunting. So seeing a guy get stabbed is no big deal. We've seen that when we were little kids. You know you go to the go to liquor store and you see a guy stabbed you know in the parking lot or I remember being in third grade and we couldn't play on the swings in the morning because some dude was dead and the cops were like processing the scene. So we're just pissed for like dude this guy to die right here. Nobody decided to swing over the dead body. We would have but they wouldn't let us. Gotcha. Yeah and I understand that it's like if you're from Philadelphia you know and you're going to eat horseshit right off the streets. Yeah or I mean pee on the dead body. Yeah right. Which I think is because somebody's here's the difference. If you pee on the building that I don't like that somebody owns it. Dead body nobody owns that right. Also somebody's going to come pick it up throw it away at some point. True. No problem at all pissing on a dead body. Yeah very very true. Also dead bodies are very absorbent. Are they really? Oh big time. I didn't know that because they leak out all their shit so you can just dump more into them. Oh got it. Dude they put their leakers not push. They are definitely leakers yeah because they have no more will to push. Okay. It's like just like Jimmy. Yeah Jimmy Carter. JC. Prayers up dude. He's he's he's still alive out there. That liquid by the way was probably myriatic acid. Not that I would know. You care to confirm or doesn't matter. It wasn't his a coloring according to him. Of course. I mean the statute of limitations are run out on that. Mr. Gregoroff would you like to confirm or deny what was going on in that household of yours. Yeah I wasn't involved in that portion of it. There it is. We didn't know. I was not there often. I was incarcerated incorrectly. When we actually got arrested we were I was sleeping and when they raided the house they did flash bangs and all that stuff. We had no idea what they were there for at all and they don't tell you. They're just you know what do you know. This is this is your last opportunity. It's your only chance to not come out like a monster. You know they do all that sort of bullshit. Sure. But I'm super pro law enforcement and you know in the on the cops side those guys were under a ton of pressure back then in the 90s to solve like the drug problem in Southern California. So they were probably doing some you know training day type scenarios just to get the fucking problem solved and you get some collateral damage along the way. Well I didn't know you like to get wet. Bucknagett's charm. PCP primo p-dog. That's one thing I've never tried. I've tried a lot of stuff but not that one. Okay. Big training day fan by the way. You got a blast this fooler. What Holmes? I could do every line from that movie gigantic fan. Another podcast. Now PCP seems like too much. It does. On this one though I went further down a rabbit hole with you. Forgive me. I had one too many diet smokes that night and I got super high. And in this rabbit hole that I was in you can tell me if I'm crazy or if I'm not crazy on this one. I was on Reddit and there was a thread about you that said you would cut somebody's face off in jail. Is that true or false? That's true. That was on Reddit. Come on now. Now we're in for a fucking show today. That's crazy that I'm even on Reddit. We actually get a lot of hate on Reddit which is crazy. I think your company or you? The company. Too expensive fuck you guys fuck leather. It had nothing about your. So the one that I read a whole separate category. Nothing about your flip flops because I love your goddamn flip flops. They're the best in the world. Thank you. For real. So you did cut somebody's face off in jail. Yeah. I mean they weren't using it. Is it was it a John Travolta stitch where you wanted to switch bodies and he had a really good looking face and I was born with this. Like can we do it was John Stamos a little Swaparooski. That's why you haven't seen him around lately. So they had accidentally put in a pedophile with us. Oh it's Shomo. Yeah. So we just had to go and cut him up a little bit. No fucking way. And how are you able one to get away with it to to say it on a podcast and everything be fine. Do you know do you know where it is to get processed for a pedo to get murdered in prison and the people that didn't get prosecuted for it? No I actually don't know too much about it. Never. Oh really? Never happens. Okay good. Never happens. Now you probably got some fucking time in the hole or extra time on your sentence. Oh I did some time in the hole for sure. We'll talk about that later. One is my lawyers tell me not to talk about it but I don't give a fuck. Two is I have the money to fight a case if I needed to. And three is that happened so often. Good luck picking out the one. I mean it'd probably be pretty fucking easy. There's only so many guys get their faces cut off but I don't give a shit. I wear that stuff with pride. What did you do with the face skin afterwards? You wear it over your own face? So what we did is we went in a cell. So as soon as he rolled in we knew exactly who he was. You know kind of who the who the who the Chester's are and shit. Yeah. And you usually have a group of guys on deck. Meaning like say you're a new guy in jail and you want to prove yourself you're on deck. So next business that comes along you're going to go and deal with it. Or if you have a drug debt or a gambling debt and you need to pay it off you and you are going to go deal with the next business. Right. So I just went for fun sees. I just went for fun because there's nothing else to do. It's Christmas Eve. So me and this dude spider. In jail? Yeah. And the guy's name is Spider. Me and the guy that went to a cell is him a spider. Okay. Yeah everyone's name is Spider. Let's you know Spider. The white guy. Really? Pecker would of course. Yeah you can hang out though. You can hang out with the next spider. You can't hang out with the Mexicans so much in jail and not in California. But you're just hanging out with woods. Other white people. Okay. It's right. It's race segregated. Makes sense. I think that you do it by height. Yeah. Super race segregated. Yeah. I think you do it by height. Five foot to five eight. The six footers. The five five eight five eight to six foot and then six foot and above. You little guys that would be the problem you know. The five 12ers. Yeah. Because you fucking cutting ankles. You grew up though in a different world where it was just like hey most of the fucking tall dudes can't fight. It's just the way it is. I don't know. I've seen a lot of tall guys that go fight. Really? Oh yeah. It's just rare. So what happened? We just want to always beat the fucking of them real bad and then I had a knife. I stabbed him in the mouth and the blade went like ricocheted off his teeth and went upwards towards his nose and then just started sawing his face off and I just seen the skin sitting there so I started peeling it off. My body was like stabbing him in the ribs. We fucked him up really really bad. All right. How did he live? Fucking good doctors. Really? One of the old school guys came along and he was like he was like hey dog don't kill him tomorrow's Christmas but we weren't really listening to that shit you know. We just fucked him up real bad. Wait what was the he did he not want his Christmas to get ruined? Yeah. We get a special trade on Christmas. You get like two not two not um jolly ranchers on Christmas. Really? It's a big deal. Was it a red and green one or what color? It just it you don't know. No. Yeah. It's the beauty of jolly ranchers. Yeah. It doesn't matter what color they're all good. You don't know. So they drug him out you know they drug him to the door and it was like 20 minutes before they raided the area because they had to deal with him you know saving his life and stuff like that and they came in and they got the dogs and the fucking the paintball guns and the bean bag shotguns and all that bullshit. Yeah. They just shake the whole place down strip search you check you for marks things like that and then just because I was part of the leadership in that particular cell they took me out and put me in the hole for a little while. No shit. And so at this point you got what two years in jail? Did they add more time to you for cutting this guy's face only supposed to do five months and 20 days but I wound up losing all of my good time. So a good lawyer kept me doing what they call back-to-back county years where after one year and one day you go up to the state run facilities but we're able to stay local within the county by just good good lawyer work. Okay. So I was able I just had to do all my time. There's only like two guys that I met during that entire time that was doing back-to-back county years. It's really rare. Okay. But what you're in there with you're in there with dudes that are struck out. So you just came back from your court case you're 25 to life and that's who we're living with. Dudes are doing their entire life in prison. We got nothing to live for. Nothing to live for at all. Yeah. And then you got young dudes who want to prove themselves. So everything around you is just turmoil all the time but what people don't realize on the street like you made some see a guy and you're like oh the guy's a bad guy. The dudes in jail are a set of population. They're a group of human beings that most other humans don't know exist on this planet. They're the most violent just tumultuous just monsters you've ever seen. And there's some normal dudes in there but most of them are just fucking psychopaths. And so for you like because you're not doing that much time are you are you just fighting to stay alive on a daily basis? No. It's just as long as you're so you could do a couple things. You could be a white dude who's just you're just there doing your time right? Or you could be active meaning like you're putting in work you're dealing with the politics. You're collecting a drug debt from this guy. This dude who just came in another shot caller from down the way he got snitched on by this guy so you're gonna go and stab that dude. So you're just putting in work it's called staying active. So you're doing that stuff you're part of like you know you're part of the overall leadership mechanism and you know you're getting drugs if you want them which we would just sell off. I was never a drug guy. You're getting the best food it's not good but the best of what we have. What kind of drugs? A heroin, cocaine, meth stuff like that. You can get all the fun stuff in there. Oh yeah. And it's good? I don't know but to those guys it's good. Okay. Yeah I've never tried it. Got you. I mean it's better than drinking toilet wine. Yeah I don't know. Some of those dudes make incredible pruno. It's crazy. Yeah I'm sorry pruno. Pruno yeah. It's the toilet wine. Yeah. That's disgusting. It's right. It's actually rated. One of the toilet wines was on the top 100 this year from I think first leaf. Oh that's you know um uh one of my I think their social media gal that was here. What was her name? Oh yeah uh shit I forget she was uh she was a prisoner. Yeah she was uh she was in jail. She made toilet wine for sure. She was in the hoo scale yeah. Yeah she had a sock. Julie. In her pocket. Prison Julie. Prison Jules. Yeah I remember prison Julie. Prison Julie. But a little bit of jail advice for the listeners. If you do go to jail just be more violent than everybody else. Yeah but that's gonna add to your time. Yeah but you could either do a short amount of time that could be really rough. Or you could do a lot of time and it's way better. So there's no possibility of going in there with a short sentence and just being like hey guys I just got five months I want to do my time and not fuck with anybody. Yeah you could do that didn't beat you up right then. They will. Yeah okay. You have to be part you have to be act so no matter what if you're an old dude who's just there doing time if there's a riot it's mandatory participation. Mandatory. God damn man. And we find out you didn't participate you're just gonna get a piece of metal stuck in you. No shit. Just be involved that's it. So your five months essentially turned in two years because of all this other shit. All the bad uh you lose all your good time. Shit dude. And then they wanted to give me. You were fine with it? Yeah. I mean you have to be at the time. Like you're it's almost like being in the Marine Corps which I've never was but my buddies who have like you're just doing crazy shit when you're young throwing fucking grenades at people but when you're 40 you're like fuck I don't know if I could go back and do that again. Yeah. But at 19 I don't give a fuck I wouldn't give a fuck at all. At all. Zero. Zero. And so when you're in there uh is there DMX thoughts of like what you're gonna do afterwards? Like are you finding God? Are you a Muslim? Everybody becomes uh Bible. Not everybody. Most of the guys become Bible thumpers in there. Where they start talking about Jesus and fucking repenting and shit like that. Well you know why right? That's because that's all they fucking got. Yeah for all hearing. That's it. Well and that's all they if you're doing life in there. Yeah. And you're lame. That's the only thing that you can really latch onto and be like real religion dude. Muslim. No no no no. We can't get explosives in there. Well according to the honorable prophet Mohammed you can't even practice Islam in prison for in a real way because you can't get dynamite. Yeah you can't. Like that's it. They're the only real way to practice it is to blow yourself up. Everybody in the end. But you know you can still pray three times a day or whatever the fuck that is. Five times. They do special meals for those guys. Shut the fuck up. You know they should feed them? Nothing. Or pork. Just endless pork. Yeah a lot of the blacks will switch over to to Muslim. Once they're in there. Yeah. Because everybody's got to find a purpose just to stay alive. Until they get out. Until they get out and then there's fucking ribs. They're like oh shit sorry Mohammed. There's like the saying that everyone knows it's when you if someone's talking about Jesus they either just got out of prison or they just got off drugs. That's one of those two things. Yeah. Yeah. And for you did you find Jesus in there? No no no. It was his name was Jesus and he probably stabbed it at all. Yeah different type of Jesus. There was um so I was in multiple facilities while I was there and one of the facilities was at the end of its kind of lifespan. So it was built around the same time Alcatraz was maybe even before. So picture Alcatraz, the bars, the rusty, the bricks all worn out. Exactly the same thing. So um we had left this cell and they had the guard had opened up cells on two different areas and for a medical call. So I came out and this dude across the way came out and the guy across the way people have been wanting to get to him. So since I was in contact with him I just fucked him up. You know and the guard was trying to stop it but the guard had to close the doors first before he could stop it. So the guard said I kind of hit him but I didn't. I think he just kind of grabbed one of my punches and you know got got pushed a little bit. So I got a salting a guard which is you know huge good time. You lose a lot of good time. They put me in the hole which is there's solitary confinement which is a cell by yourself and then there's the real hole which is there's two cells. It's a steel box embedded in concrete. There's a hole in the floor. It's a floor sloped with a hole in the floor that you piss and shit in. There's no mattress there's nothing like that in there and this is almost a hundred years old. So it's rotten, decayed, rusty, dripping. There's like the smell of like septic coming up from there. They crack open this big metal outer door that just when you open it up and there's this black dude that killed three guys on one cell in one box and then me and the other one. I spent three months in there. Do you have blankets or pillows? Nothing. Nothing. You're in like white underwear and then when they take you out you're shackled head to toe and they take you out once a week for a shower. Jesus Christ. So you're just in a tidy whiteies. Yup. Bear skin on the fucking concrete. On the concrete and the concrete's wet moldy so there's a faucet on the wall. You turn it to get water like a like a garden hose. Yeah. But from the 30s. Now if there's guards listening to this that are from the sanding area they know exactly what I'm talking about. It's it's way outside the scope of like humanitarian rights. I wasn't gonna fucking complain. I don't give a shit. You're not gonna break me from putting me in a cell like that. Three months though is a lot. People lose their fucking minds. Yeah. Pussy's lose their mind. It's not that big a deal. But if I did that nowadays it would suck. Back then it didn't phase me. Not trying to sound like a tough guy. It didn't phase me at all. Not one fucking bit. Here's the thing though. You don't know if it's day or night. You only know by the type of food they bring you in like a styrofoam tray that like oh this looks like breakfast food. So you're like it's probably it's morning time. That's the only way you know what time of day it is. And what do you do for exercises? Not up to you. No you just sit in your cell and that's it. It's dark. There's like a tiny little light up top. So you're just sitting in the pitch black virtually. For three fucking months. You come out once you come out once a week. You're shackled head to toe. They put you in this tiny little stall with a bar of soap. You try to like wash your dick and your ass like you can't reach nothing else. That's it. You go back out big old beard covered in scummy fucking mold. Yeah you're all fucked up. God damn dude. And then after that when you got out of there where you're like all right I get a quick fucking around and I get to get out of this hellhole. No because I didn't do anything to get in there. Right. I wasn't like I didn't have a drug empire and then went to jail and then I was like I need to turn my life around. I just got caught up in some bullshit but to me it's just collateral damage. Collateral damage. I wasn't upset at the cops. I wasn't upset anybody. I just knew it was just one of those things in life. You know what I mean? Sometimes shitty shit happens shitty things happen. And when you get out what makes you want to start a company and do all this shit. That was I mean 20 years later. So I started working at a strip club after that because it was a doorman just banging chicks and beating people up. Sure. Working out doing more jiu-jitsu and keep in mind I started doing jiu-jitsu in 1990. So when I went to jail in the late 90s the UFC was out but nobody knew what the fuck it was. No nobody definitely knew what it was. And jiu-jitsu too was brand new. You had years of training so when you got in a fight with somebody unless they got a lucky punch and knocked you out or something if you just got your hands on them they were dead. There's nothing they could do. No because it was so foreign. 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If long as the leadership all agrees that's not going to turn to a riot, they'll let us go fight each other. And how long would that fight last? Until somebody just doesn't walk out of there. Because the guards don't give a shit? They're just not watching all the time. Okay. You know what I mean? I don't think I've been in a fight that the guards were involved in. You know, except that one where it happened in front of the guards. Yeah. Every fight was beginning to end. Like the guards maybe found out later, but never during a fight. And at the strip club then, you're 21, right? Yep. Working in a strip club as a bouncer, just fresh out the pen, probably the air rides, lifting weights, jogging, you know, doing all that stuff. All the fun stuff. And then just banging strippers. That's it. And did you notice when they walked up to the stage, hey, it's dirty out there, you know what would be great is if we put a little flip-flop on your stopper there, and that way you could have a better entrance. Well, I guess the question is how quality was the strip club then? Yeah, what's the name of it? The main attraction in Oceanside, it's where every Capitolton Marine spent his weekend. Perfect. So, so not clean. No, and any sense of the word. No, but I imagine a lot of fights, right? Yeah, a lot of fights. Pop this up. Let's see. We're on Patreon today. So it's fine. Let's see the strip club. So the main attraction just sold their property a couple of years ago, but you'll see some photos here. So that's where it is now. They've seen that structure. They've they sold it. Look at that, dude. This is Biden's America. We tore down one of our premier strip clubs to build a fucking whatever kind of school or something. What are Marines supposed to do nowadays? Yeah, we're fucking beat off in space. I mean, if I were the Marines, I would I would continue going to the condos. I'd be like, hey, this is where the strippers are. Yeah, this is how it's always bad. So you got to start stripping over. Grab a fucking problem. Someone's dancing. I don't leave it in the ground, like an Indian burial ground. So when you see this sign right here, does it give you flashbacks of a of a happier time there? That sign is probably the original sign when it was first built like the 60s. That's sweet, dude. That's sweet. How was the talent in there? A lot of sea scars as you guys, San Diego, I mean, you had you had to have some some up and comments. There was a couple, probably nines, but most of them were five and sixes. All right, pull up the main attraction women, Bob. See if we can get a couple of these bruisers, and maybe you still knows them, you know, because I don't go on LinkedIn and search the main attraction. Oh, yeah. See if everybody's got that listed in there. That was a big fan of big gyms booby bungalow in Tennessee. They're not like the Vegas strippers for sure. What does that mean? The Vegas strippers are hot. Yeah. They do their best. Why used to sit next to them on the flight out from LA? So from Burbank, Thursdays. Do you ever live in Los Angeles by any chance? Yeah. So that Burbank flight on a Thursday night, and then the Sunday morning flight back to Vegas. Yes, it was all top talent strippers, and they would fly from LA and Burbank to Vegas for the weekend, and then fly back. And they had some talent in Vegas. Who are these bruisers down here? You know, I'm just on Yelp looking for the best adult entertainment notion site, California. Oh, is there a Yelp review for the main event? I don't think so. Well, it's not around anymore. Yeah, but the Yelp reviews don't remain. No, not that I'm seeing. That hurts. Damn it, man. I'm sorry, ladies. I know if you're out there right now and you're going for a nice jog down memory lane, it would have been nice to see your name in lights. I think they call it a "Yog" in San Diego. Oh, that's right. Yeah, the wheels are giant again for sure. So how long did you do that, Joe? A couple of years. Anything I've done, so kind of circle back to Joe. Anything I've done, I try to be really good at it. So a lot of guys are I was a criminal, I changed my life front. I don't look at that at all. Just Joe is something that happened, like a flat tire in life. Doesn't bother me. I don't, you know, have any opening up a guy's face flat tire. It's when you get like a free pass to do that in life. Dance this morning. Yeah. I didn't have the education to be even qualified to join the military. And the times I've asked, "These were waivers. This was a waiver." They didn't even get to my lack of education. Did you have to be educated to join? You need to have a GD. No, shit. No, you didn't have one? No, my security clearance was too high to get one in jail. What do you mean security clearance? A guy was too dangerous. I wouldn't have done nothing, but like people in that category would take a fucking teacher hostage or some shit. Okay. So what do you do after the strip club? I work at LA Fitness and wind up working my way all the way through to the top. So really aggressive sales, real performance base. Like you cut somebody's face off? Fine. How aggressive? Yeah, really aggressive. I'll wear your fucking face, dude. You just come into the meeting already wearing somebody else's face. It would be great. Like, hey, you know, you can either sign up for the gym or I do need a new face. Yeah. This one's starting to smell. Now LA Fitness was, we hired a lot of like ex convicts and gang members there. So as a manager, they were all, they all hustled. They worked really hard. We'd hire a couple of chicks who were like college educated. So they could write our emails and, you know, do our reports. But anything as far as like sales numbers, performance, things like that, it was always gang members. Yeah, shit. They're really good. Are they really best guys? Yeah. Now they know they can't walk over you. So like they have respect for you and they're going to do what you tell them to do. You know, they're not they're guys wanting to kind of not change our life, but they got good money to make. And we put some scams and shit like that. So there's a little bit of shady shit we did. But after that, I went on and became a contractor working for the Marine Corps, training Marines had escaped from like vehicle rollovers and helicopter crashes and shit like that. I went to work for Apple and then I started the flip-flop company. So I got all those banks of experience now with the flip-flop company. So I personally answer all of our messages. So with a flip-flop company, again, because it's so unusual, like usually you go to a beach town, you know, I've got a place in one that I love and it's like, all right, cool, man, you roll in, you get a pair of nine dollar bullshit. Sure. Things off the, you know, it's a plastic ring on it, you snap it and you're good to go. And they're shitty. The quality is shitty and it sucks. What about flip-flops for you? It's so odd to say out loud, but what about flip-flops for you where you were like, you know what, man? I could fucking elevate this and turn this into one of the top companies in the world. It's a good question. So the one thing is they always broke, like you mentioned, they always broke. Always. And I was on this hike way back in the mountains and they broke on me and I was like, fuck this shit. I was just tired of it. So when I, like I said, I was only looking to solve my own problem. It's because I want to wear flip-flops. I hate my feet and shoes. This feels weird. It's like a fucking condom for your foot. That's interesting to say that. So with hard AF Seltzer, which is ours as well, we were looking to solve our own problems. Delicious, by the way. Oh, thank you. But, but for real, Dan and I were looking to solve our own problem because everywhere we went and we were sponsored by somebody else, whoever it was, we were like, eh, it's like 4%. This is like fine. I was like, we need someone we get fucked up off of, but no carbs and sugars. And this is like a white claw with like a two shots of it. Yeah, thanks. Way better. That's what, yeah, that's what originally started it. We did a gig for white claw way back in the day and I was like, I could, we would see where it was headed. We were just like, all right, let's elevate this more and get it there. But yeah, we were solving our own problem. And so it was the same way with you. So when you did this, and you make the first pair, is it this intense where you're using elephant skin or do you remember the first pair you ever made? Yeah, it's, it's in display at the shop. Is it really? And what was it? Just a bullshit piece of cowhide, like it's total dog shit. Yeah, was the quality good? Is it indestructible like us now? Total dog shit. If I give you a piece of leather, whatever you made would probably be better than what I made my first time. No shit. Remember, I'm a fucking idiot. Well, I'm not that much better than you, you know. I'd love to say that. Way, did you pronounce his last name or not? Yeah, it's Gregorov. Okay. Nailed it. Yeah. I mean, it's rare that he gets one right. Well, I did say it earlier though, in the black lawyer accent. If you mean, if you're Gregorov, do you think incarceration? That's, so maybe that's how you should learn new words, because then if you're doing that voice, makes you enunciate the whole word. I feel like that's how you should learn new words. Isn't it weird that I just, I only want to talk in a silly voice like that? Is that picture that's every celery? Yeah. Oh, could you imagine? Like, you don't flip flops. No, it's like, yeah, you may. I'm kidding. I can't do that for an entire show. But the first pair you made are dog shit. And then after that, every pair has just been better and better. And here's the thing. No training though. Zero. Zero. Just trial and error watching YouTube. But what I watched on YouTube wasn't another guy making flip flops and copied it. It'd be a fucking guy making like a gun holster, like sewing something. And I'd see the back of his shop, like a piece of equipment, I'd be like, what is that? I would just buy stuff it to turn out to be junk. I would like wander around the store. I'd wander around Hobby Lobby for like hours every day just looking for materials. Like, what is this thing? What is this thing? What's the difference? But here's the thing. Nobody knows shit about leather nowadays. It's probably the thing that we've been using the longest as mankind that nobody knows anything about. It's all just dog shit, low quality fake imitation. If you cut open a Kenneth Cole or Calvin Klein belt or anything like that, you look in the middle, it's cardboard. It's like a press cardboard. There's no leather in it at all. Really? None whatsoever. And the majority of your wallets and majority of the stuff you buy, the reason it costs $10, $5, $50 is because it's paper. It's junk. So what your money gets you is a huge difference from what your money gets you when you buy one of our products. Not only do you know exactly where it came from, you know that it was meticulously picked out and handcrafted, but it's made from the absolute best material on earth. There's nothing else. If you buy a piece of shark leather out of the market, the things that are available to buy, it's the best piece we could possibly buy. Yeah. And by the way, he's not kidding. This isn't one of those guests that's been on the show. It's like, Oh, my company is amazing. I can genuinely say like you were the top of the flip fucking and your social media is lights out because you show how these fucking things are made. And it's insane to me. Thank you. I mean, it's absolutely fucking insane because some of them, I wonder when I was again, I've followed your shit for a while. But when I look at it, let's take that alligator one. Bob, pull up his Instagram, see if we can find it real quick. There was an alligator one where I was like, is this a one of one? Is this a how like how many pairs you get out of one? They all all of them are. So out of an alligator hide, we're only going to utilize the best portions of that hide. So it's belly is going to maybe yield three pairs on a big gator and maybe get two pairs of its tail and the rest will be used for wallets. So you're going to have a, like you say, for example, you got a pair of American alligator flip flops, you may get a gigantic, just super sick scar with an alligator was fighting other other. Top left, Bob. Yeah, green pop this up. Actually, the white one up there. Those are crocodile. Those are the Himalayan. Those are the world record. Okay. So with these, is there only one pair of these that exists? Yes. Yes. So that hide is there's a ton of, if you Google it, there's a billion fake hides you could buy. That's a real Himalayan crocodile. It's a particular pattern that a crocodile will form where it's now buying with these really cool gray spots that look like the peaks of the Himalayan. That's where they get its name from. The only other place you're going to see that is from a Hermes Birkin bag, which retails for excess of half a million dollars. You get to be invited to buy it. Yep. Only the ultra, ultra, ultra A-listers get it. So that's a matching pair for that bag that we made. God damn, dude. Nobody else can buy that leather. We just have the relationships to do it. And how much is that pair of $5,000? God damn. Who bought it? Celebrity? No. This cool dude from Texas that wants to use them at a shooting range. Yep. Do we know him? Nope. Just a normal guy. His name is D. Okay. Okay. I had double check in. We know a lot of them. He would think something like that, like a celebrity. Yeah, dude. Things like that. So it's rare to get Jason Momoa wanted a pair. We told him though. He has a couple other pairs, but we didn't have any more. We told him now. Yeah. But that's part of it though. That's part of it of the not being able to help people know. That's my favorite thing. Dude, and I was just going to say someone Hollywood too, especially. You tell them no. His motherfuckers will come back the rest of your life and ask for shit, because it's like, well, I've got to have that thing that I can't have. You're going to get it to me because I'm famous. So that particular pair, not only is it the only one in the world, it's out of the rarest leather on the planet and the dude who's wearing them is just going to wear them in the mud at a shooting range, shooting a 50-cal rifle. You're kidding. That's American shit. And they last forever, right? They're pretty strong. Yeah. So think of like a car tire. If you drive around normally your tire will last 100,000 miles. If you're skidding out, hitting a brakes, peeling corners, nothing could hold up to the abrasion of a sidewalk or the ground. So if you're a foot dragging the androthal, you'll definitely wear out the bottom. That's on you. As far as them falling apart, they'll never fall apart. And the best part, check this out. We have zero warranty. Why do you think that is? Because a warranty holds a company to restrictions they have, right? You can message me and be like, dude, my fucking dog should shoot them up. I'll make the choice on what we want to do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Of course, no one's going to cover that. If your dog chews them up, it's fuck you, it's your dog. Ship them back to me. We won't put this in writing, but I'll always fix your straps and send them back to you every single time. So we're always going to be above and beyond with the customer service. We don't need a warranty because we're always going to do the right thing for the customer. All warranty tells you according to Tommy Boy is that they sold you was a guaranteed piece of shit. If you want me to take a dump in a box and market guarantee that will. Don't need a guarantee. That's what Tommy Boy said. And that's pretty much where I get most of my business information. Yeah, it's not all of this. What's the craziest pair you've ever made? Because you got the elephant, you've got the crocodile, forgive me for alligator. It's the fucking same. It's like, dude, I'm not Guatemalan. I'm Mexican. Those are eagle rays. That's a natural line that runs down there. Now, here's the thing with stingray and eagle ray. So that's a real stingray skin right there? Yes. Eagle ray is the kind that I kind of fly through the water. Yeah. So they're different. They have what feels like normal leather like cowhide, but on top of them, they grow this calcium deposit called a nodule. It's a tiny little bead, like a round BB. And they're really tight together. So you could get a razor blade and run it across the top of that and it'll just chip your razor blade apart. Really? You hit it with a flame, it won't cut. Like to make those, the reason they're $1,000, not only is because the material is expensive, but it's a bitch to work with. It destroys my equipment. We have to sand the edges on the same thing they sound like diamonds with, like a jeweler's tool to get the rounded edges on that thing. It's the biggest pain in the ass to work with. I can design or flip floss. We have a pair out there that's six years old. The top of them, you'll get a nice patina which you want. You don't want to look like a dude with a brand new fresh pair. You want a nice patina where it looks like you've worn them. Yeah. You'll get like a little bit of the black, the coloring will kind of turn a little bit of white, but the flip up will never wear out on you. It's like wearing out a tile floor. How do you wear out a piece of calcium? You can't. Me? Anybody can't do it. I mean, it's just, you'll wear out the bottom eventually. That's reverse cowgirl too, but yeah. That'll do it. That'll do it every time. The craziest pairs, well, the ones that probably get the most notoriety and we're pretty quiet about it would be a pair of rhino. So we had a hunter who legally killed a rhino in Africa, got to hide back to the US all legal, and then for some reason, this never happens. He got divorced, right? And she wanted to take all his money. So he had to sell some stuff and he kind of donated this hide over and we made a few pairs. Really, really kind of on the DL. No one's listening to this, right? Fucking way, exactly. Go to those ones on the top right, Bob. I saw those on your Instagram. What are those, right? They're those Constitution. Yeah, those are the Patriots. So we have the first and second amendment in Boston to them. We have we the people and then we have two screaming American Eagles coming down. Dude, and those are a thousand dollars? No, those are like 400 bucks. Fuck, those are dope. We we're not a discount company, right? Everything we do is meticulously made by hand. If you order something for us, you're going to wait four months to get it. Really? Yeah. Okay. And you're welcome. We're even making them for you, right? Man. Be happy we're making them for you. What a fucking business. But what we do do, only for military law enforcement and first responders is we do offer a discount. Okay. So shoot me a message on Instagram. Show me a copy of your ID, just in the quick, just, you know, the one that auto deletes that you're not fucking posing. And I'll send you a code to use as long as you're not a Democrat. Exactly. We don't sell the libs. You shouldn't walk around barefoot. Go fuck this off. You shouldn't. You should get those the Constitution ones and the two ones. Those are dope. Yeah. No, if you go to our Instagram, this is only some of our popular stuff on our web on our website. The majority 80% of what we make, you'll never see on our website because we'll have like just a one off high. Well, can you make me go, right? Like, it just make me a drinker browse pair. Yeah, easy. Yeah. And then that's it, right? Like, you're done and, and hey, we're never making that again. Well, we could duplicate them for you guys. But for example, let's say we have like an Egyptian elephant hide right now. It's beautiful. We only have enough for like two pairs. So two of our VIPs, all the cinnamon picture of it, they see it. They're like, fuck yeah, there's guys that just leave their credit cards on file and just when something new comes in a G. Yep. We have guys that are on like their 60th plus pair, they spent over 70 grand. We have literally 100 customers that spent over $5,000 just this year. So the demand for what we have is crazy. Tons of first time buyers. It shocks me that it's so, that it's so popular. But there's this thing nowadays where people want to spend their money, at least I do. They want to spend their money with companies that they align with that make a good product and that care about what they're doing. And no one does that nowadays. I'll give you an example. I got a motorcycle and I want to buy a helmet for that motorcycle. And they sent me the wrong one. I shot them a phone call and I said, hey, you guys sent me the wrong helmet. Can I swap it out? And the first thing the lady said, would you like a refund, right? What that means is the owner of that company, and I said, you know what, please give me my money back. Because the owner of the company paid somebody to sit there and give his money away. And so many companies do that. Not only do they not respond to you, go, everybody go on Instagram right now and go to your favorite company. Because if they have an Instagram, that means they're advertising to you. That means they want you to buy their products, shoot them a message and see how long it takes for them to respond. And then shoot us a message and see how long it takes for us to respond. And I guarantee the moment this podcast ends, you'll get a message back from us. No shit. You go to anybody, even our friends who own big companies, they don't even do it. Nobody does it. They want your money, but they want it between 9am, 5pm, Monday through Friday. Go fuck yourself. Message me at midnight and I'll sell you something. Okay. It's interesting, man, because again, coming from like, I get a Hollywood background, and once you do shit like this, that's like one offs and it's so in demand, you can tell everybody to fuck off. They're still going to keep coming back. They're still going to hit you up. They're still going to want the cool thing. And then it becomes a collectible. So some of the guys you were talking about that have $70, $80,000 worth of flip-flops. Now they just want to be the ones that say, Hey, I have this and it's a fucking cool pair or anything else. If you, so we're not a rich guy company, but we do have a lot of rich customers and we do have normal working working guy customers. And we have dudes that work at gas stations that save up and they buy a pair once a year. We get it. We're, you know, anybody that wants a pair, we try to be, you know, but I don't care if you can't afford our product is long because our goal is to make the best product. If suddenly there's a leather that comes out and makes our flip-flops $30,000 a pair, sorry guys, that's what we're moving to because the goal isn't to make you have a pair. The goal is to make the best in the world. And I think that always needs to be the goal. But it does if you can afford it because with you, I don't know that you could sell a company like this because it's so specialized, right? Like it's either you do it or nobody else does. We have staff that that make our stuff now. I make a few pairs like I'll be involved in stuff that's more difficult stuff. I'll physically make them. But our staff makes everything. They're making them right now in Las Vegas. Okay. As we speak, we've had Saudi start to talk to us about purchasing our company. Fuck now. Tell us some flying planes into buildings and maybe you can look into it. Yeah. Because it's real like with an RTD company with a drink company, it's hard, but with an apparel company, it's really fucking hard. And especially when you're making one offs, two offs of some of these specialty items. Yeah. It's hard to sell because you're like, all right, well, you know, can we, how do we mass produce these? Yeah. Problem is, don't do it or like I was going to say, don't the master produce. Yeah. If you master, or if you, if you mass produce all these fucking things and your company wouldn't be as special, and then people wouldn't be sharing it the way that it is. And that's, again, that's how I found it. I didn't even know you in real life. Like I, this is the first time I'm meeting you, obviously, but I knew your company for a while. So you could go to our website and buy a thousand pairs of anything on there. It's stuff we could duplicate stuff we have access to. But there's a huge amount of stuff that specialized. And that stuff is really, that stuff is particularly special. Because say, for example, you got an anniversary coming up, you want to get your wife something cool, you go to Louis Vuitton and get to the same fucking bag every other broad has, same one, you might be able to get her, if you want to spend some money, you might be able to get her a Rolex, which is hard to get, but everybody else can also get that Rolex. Sure, you can get her a pair of pink stingray that might be the only pair on the planet. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, like looking at these, like, yeah, that's it. And then you're like, Hey, honey, I love you. I don't want to hear anything else the rest of the year. Sucky tonight. Yeah, well, I can't say that. Yeah, you can just say it in the Chinese accent. Nobody don't notice. Oh, you sucky tonight. No, she was in the jailer acting. Thank you. Thank you. Those guys are good. He's on. He's on it. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, definitely couldn't say that's my wife. She told me to go fuck myself, you know. So what happened with this Hunter Biden thing? Oh, I got a guilty. Wait, who? Hunter Biden got found guilty. All three counts of what? Gun charges. Dumb. That's what I said on the I see we talked about on a Ross Pudge revolution earlier. I think you dipped in during the back of it. Yeah, I said the same thing where I was just like, look, both of these trials, in my opinion, the Trump and the fucking Biden trial is stupid to that. The ATF is gay. But with him, it was such a simple case that it only went like seven days. Like the charges you can't get out of. I mean, to be fair, he turned in all the evidence against himself. Yes, unfortunately. Right. Well, I think it's a dumb rule. Like it's none of the government's business what substances I am or am not on if I want to buy a gun. Like that there's no it is a constitutionally guaranteed right. Like I can't they can't stop me from protesting or using free speech or voting if I'm fucking taking shit. So why the fuck would they be able to stop me from having a gun? It's none of the government's goddamn business what I do. They can suck both of my balls and my dick. Well, the problem is the government in this case is his father, who was the president of the United States. So with this, you know, he's looking at 25 years because he was convicted on all three. He should if it were anybody other than him, he would get probation. And that's what he should get. Well, actually, you want to get into it because it's something we didn't get into earlier this morning with with this case is I think the timing is very curious. I think Trump got convicted what two weeks ago magically this case happened now. He also gets convicted. I don't think I think I don't think you have a choice but to send Trump to jail now for this because with Hunter Biden with with the charges that he had, they were so stock standard on the on the books. There was nothing like out of control there in my opinion. It was just the law. And I think because he's going to get some time, they're going to say this the lady scale justice or even and they're going to put Trump in jail. I do not in any way think that Hunter will or should get prison time. Not for this. He should be in prison, but not for this. I think it's mandatory. I think Bob, you can look it up. I think at a mandatory is one to two years, I believe maximum is 25. Minimum mandatory is what state is in. Was it California for this one or was it Delaware? Do you know? It's federal charges. It's so they're in Delaware, but it was federal charges. Yeah, the court was in Delaware. I'll find it real quick. Yeah, I think the minimum is one to two years. We were talking about it earlier with with the Plaxico Burris in New York because you got two years in that case. I don't see anything about mandatory sentencing. So it's your point with the with the drug thing in Vegas, if you weed legal, if you go into a gun store and you smell like weed, they'll tell you to leave. You're not allowed to be in there. Really? You can't even smell like weed. Okay, interesting. I didn't know that. Now, also, it's a private business where they're selling guns. So they got to kind of decide what they want to do. Sure, as they should be allowed to. Um, let's see. Are you trying to find a minimum? It's unclear whether the judge was sentenced him to any time behind bars. There's no minimum prison sentence for this. He should he should probably get two years probation. That would be my guess. What was the charge exactly? What did he do? He lied on a federal form, 4450, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. So he had a gun, uh, bought a gun on drugs, not allowed to do that, not allowed to do it to use drugs. And then what he dumped the gun in a dumpster. How did they know he was on drugs? That's a great question. I'll see you left a laptop in a fucking tech company. And they put all the videos on the internet. Sure did. Of him, time stamped, smoke and crack with whores in Russia and the US and other places. Yeah. Uh, cause the, the other odd thing about this is, you know, because it all is just happening. Now, uh, this debate is coming up June 27th with Trump and Biden. Um, Biden was already running on the convicted felon thing. Well, Trump's going to be able to say your kid is a convicted felon. Trump sentencing is a, is a month from tomorrow. Right. July 11th, which happens to be Caesar's birthday oddly enough. Really? Look at that. Uh, what do you think is going to happen to both of these jail time for either of them? I don't think either of them will get jail time, no. I think it, I think it would be, uh, crossing the Rubicon to give Trump jail time. And I think it would cause some extreme political violence, uh, which maybe they want. Who knows? But if, if I were, uh, if I think Trump should come to a friendly state, like Texas or Florida and stay there, and if, uh, the federal government wants to come get him, good fucking luck. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so it says right now, uh, they're considering an appeal. Um, not really sure how you could, uh, at this point, because again, these laws are already for hunters. He's not going to get an appeal. Trump has a better case, a much, a much better case for appeal. Well, of course, cause that obviously was just fucking stupid, but this one is pretty clear cut. So I don't really, it's so obvious they're doing this just like, obviously election wise, but they're going to stall this case out. And even if Trump is found is exonerated later on, they're just doing this to cause interference before the election, Supreme Court will probably fix us all later, but they're just trying to get this figured out right now, before the election. Well, the problem is they're about to go on recess. So I believe the one that they're going to, they're going to hear, Supreme Court takes years. Right. But, uh, for Trump, yes, uh, it's going to be the immunity from January 6th when he was in office. Uh, and then the, the other interesting part about that case in particular was, uh, last night, I don't know if you guys saw this with, uh, the leaked video from Nancy Pelosi. Yeah. Um, you go ahead and play that Bob. It's on Twitter right now. And, uh, she's in the car getting out of what appears to be, um, the building where the, Yeah. And just to set the stage for this, the main defense that Trump issued against these charges about him coordinating January 6th were one, the public statement on Twitter for everybody to go to the fuck home, which he made, right? Mm hmm. Pretty easy to say that. Two Muriel Bowser and the speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi refused to put the National Guard in DC. Those are his two main things, right? Yeah. And here's evidence that one of them, I mean, one of them is clear. It's a fucking Twitter post that says don't do anything violent. Go home. Yeah. Like don't do anything violent at first. And then when people started doing stupid shit, he said, go home. Right. Right. And then this is the other one. Go ahead and play this. Have responsibility, Terry. We did not have any accountability for what was going on there. And we should have. This is ridiculous. You're going to ask me in the middle of the thing, but they've already breached the inaugural stuff that should be called the Capitol Police. I mean, the National Guard, why weren't the National Guard there to begin with? They thought that they had sufficient resources. No, there's not a question about it, but they don't know. They clearly didn't know. And I take responsibility for not having them just prepared for more. We have responded. Okay. So who would release that video? That I can't figure out. Now, what the aftermath of that video was, is she raced her ass out to MSNBC and got live on air immediately with whoever the host was last night. I'm not, forgive me, I'm not too familiar with their network other than Rachel Maddow. Well, the person she's speaking to is Terry McCullough, who's her chief of staff in the car. Yep. Okay. The person sitting to her left. I don't know the person behind her recording on who that is. Okay. And then Bob, what showed did she go on last nights? Because I called a clip of it and they tried to ask her about it. And then she started talking about Abraham Lincoln. No, I'm not kidding either. And it had nothing to do with this conversation at the back of the car. But what's interesting to me is two things with this, this leaked video here is one, if she didn't know what's going on, it's one of the National Guard there and all this other shit. The narrative of her being in on January 6 then kind of goes out the window with this video. Two, exonerates Trump and everybody else. If you thought as the head of the Democratic Party that the National Guard should have been there and everything else, then why didn't you put them in there? And then her taking responsibility for it is also truthfully something you want to see out of a politician, but you didn't, you never see this side of a politician. And if this isn't shot, which it appears to be for a documentary of some kind, this doesn't look like, Oh, hey, I got you a moment from the backseat. This looks like they were filming for a documentary about her life or some TV show. That's a good point. That's a high quality camera they were using. It is. So it's not like, you know, it was somebody's shitty cell phone in the back where it was like, Oh, I'm gonna catch her in the act of saying this. And they would be her team, but they'd be with her. So I'd be really rare. Right. So there was a there's a bunch of things regarding this. And it's like, all right, then how did you go so hard then for the last four years of other James think there was in the book and everything else? We saw what your reaction was that was genuine in the car. Like, and you said you're taking responsibility for it. I'm so confused as to why we let these old people run our country. And then either side, you're 80 years old, you're not allowed to even probably drive anymore. If you were a pilot, there'd be no way you'd be in charge of flying a plane. Why the fuck are you still in politics? Like 60 years old, you're out of there. Like the time you have to leave the workforce, you have to leave. Sorry, younger people, because this the shit, you know, even a doctor who's 80 years old, the stuff you learned is so antiquated for the most part because you learned it so long ago. Medical wise, when did you go to school? Me? No, no, the doctor graduated in the 30s. No, in the in the 1970s. No, so 2019 is when I graduated. I don't think so. Five or six years ago, probably. I don't think so. No way to check that, obviously, on the internet, kidding. But as we're looking at all of this, and you're like, all right, cool, what the fuck is going on with it? What's show is she on Bob? Do we know? Go to Charlie Kirk's fucking Twitter and navigate past his giant head, somehow, if you're able to. It's going to be tough, but it is going to be tough. He's got his face is too small for his head, freaks me out. There you go. Yeah, what's this, what's this broads name? No idea. Who cares. Who's something on MSNBC? Whatever. I've never seen her before. Okay, press play. Think this is stirred up and a bruja on the on the right and in some corners of the media today. Well, because the fact is that the president of the United States, the former president and his toteys do not want to face the facts. They're trying to do revisionist history on January 6th. The video of you talking, bitch. Yeah, you cannot let us be dragged into their, again, false impression of what happened that day. They know what happened that day. They know how serious it is and was and continues to have an impact on our country. And yet they want to call the people who were in their hostages. Last night, I received the Lincoln award. I was so proud of receiving that. And I said in my remarks, Lincoln built the dome on the Capitol. He insisted that it be built during the Civil War so that it could show the resilience of America. And to see these people coming through the Capitol with their foul deeds and foul actions waving Confederate flags and Nazi flags under Lincoln's dome was so shameful. And yet this president who incited, this former president who incited this insurrection would not send the National Guard for hours. People were harmed. People were killed, but died one way or another. Nobody was killed, except for a one. It was a terrible thing. But let's not take away the attention of what we need to do to go forward. We have to unify our country. We have to bring people together in a way, in a way that honors. It's just a word solid full of nonsense and everything else. And the wild thing is, I fucking hate Pelosi, obviously, but seeing that footage of her in the car was a genuine, honest reaction to what was going on during the day. And it's truthfully what you want every politician to say of, hey, we should hold our own selves accountable of what we should have done or maybe shouldn't have done in that moment and everything else. And then you go on TV and say this is revisionist history. It's like, bitch, it was just you in the car, dude. Like who do we have to go on other than what you were saying at the time that it was happening? Even seeing her face makes me sick. I can't even watch her on TV. It's not great. It's bad. It's not great. But would you rather see Paul's, Paul Pelosi's? With the hammer? I've only seen him in that video. That's the only time I've ever seen that guy. He's a guy that got to the police a couple. I mean, I'm not going to pull it out unless I do it twice. So if you could kill Nancy Pelosi, but you had a fucker to death, would you do it? Oh, have sex with her? But you had a fucker to death. Can you do it? Can you fuck a human to death, though? That's the thing. I don't know. I don't know that it's possible. You can, yeah. Really? Yeah, but here's the thing. I wouldn't give her my gift. Could you stay hard though? Oh, I could stay hard, buddy. Don't worry about that. With Nancy Pelosi? I did a thing about it this morning, honest. You have to be straight enough sometimes to have sex with a man to dominate him. You understand? Like, don't be a coward. Don't be a sex coward. I get it, man. Like, for you, because there's a few, like, I've watched every fucked up video you could watch pretty much. I feel like, right? The one that haunted me the most, haunted me the most was just a story. And it was about these two black dudes who were fucking this white guy in prison. I think we might have some audio of that. We sure don't. Oh, man. I was pulling it up. And that's that story. Sorry to interrupt. That story's worse than Mr. Hands. Nothing's worse than Mr. Hands. No, no, no. I fucking fist bumping. Dappin it up over there. You know, Mr. Hands. That should do fucked to death by a horse. But here's the thing that was voluntary. That's why I don't feel bad. That was voluntary on the guy's part. And he wanted what he didn't know. He didn't know that that was going to go. Yeah, gotta know that a six foot horsecock inside is going to rip out your insides. Now, the one that haunted me was the two guys in jail because the way they told this story in a listener's sentence to me and I never fucking I don't really check in the comments or anything like that shit. And it just hit me at the right time. And I was like, Oh, what's this? I opened it up and I watched it. It was like an eight minute story that was on it looked like maybe an A&E or something like that. And and it was like, yeah, man. So, you know, I came up to him and he was on the top bunk. And I took my shiv and I put it right underneath his eye and I said, if you move, my stab you fucking eye out, put this shiv in the back of your back of your brain, you're gonna die. And so this guy raped him and then the other guy raped him. And the only I mean, this is where it got really fucking dark for me. Where's he goes? Well, my buddy, like he had come, he had orgasm, you know, so then I knew I had to do it then, you know, so I had to take another turn. And I was like, Oh my God, dude. And it's just, it was the calmness in which they said it the way they describe this white guy screaming. And then the way that they said they were telling each other, he was like, Hey man, you gotta go Eevee on him. He's new to this. Okay, he's gonna scream a lot and the guards are gonna come over. You gotta go Eevee or on him. Otherwise, you got to work him up to that, you know, and it was like, Oh shit, so you're just gonna continue raping this guy for fucking ever and ever in this jail. That guy made the choice to volunteer when the knife came out and he didn't fight the guys right then and there. That's what I thought in my mind, right? Where you're like, Okay, cool. That's probably worth your life, I would imagine. Well, first off, if a black steps foot in your cell, they're attacked immediately immediately. If you're white, if you're anybody, I mean, another black is gonna be celebrated by the black, but if a black walking to my cell, I'm gonna kill him. And that's just the fucking rules. Well, not just the rules, but as a fucking man, you know, you're not supposed to be in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If he did, he literally just walked in a fucking landmark. Now, when you kill him, do you find little coins on the ground, like a video game or how does that work? Yeah, like a Mario loop. Yeah, just a little pink. I'd kill way more people. So that that's the choice you make, you know what I mean? A lot of guys are like, I just want to be fuck you, deal with it, go kill him. How come you didn't have a knife to begin with? You're in jail. Get a knife day one, get some ramans, trade some ramans for a shank, and just stab a couple guys. Because the guy said, the other guy, allegedly, is they didn't talk to him. He didn't want to be on camera, obviously. But he was just like, dude, I'm worried, he was worried about fighting back and grabbing the thing and doing all the shit because he didn't want to add more time to his sentence. So yeah, then that's okay. Hey, hey, you made that choice. Oh God, I made that fucking choice. That's what haunts me. This is why we are the way we are in California. It's race segregated. It's all the whites against all the blacks. You know what I mean? Mexicans help out sometimes. Yeah, that's the way it has to be. Because otherwise you get shit like that happened, right? So something like that happened like in a in a California facility, we systematically go and kill all the blacks. We'd have to. Yeah. But it's not like in a racist way, it's that's this is our football team. That's their football team. It happens to be skin color. There's tons of black friends I have outside of jail, but in jail, none. You can't. Can't do it. Our one of our old co-hosts, Rocco, on the show, told this another fucking awful prison story one time where his best friend, he's Mexican, but didn't look at it. He was like, dude, he looks as white as dead. So he goes, no one in jail. And he didn't speak Spanish. So it goes, no one in jail thought he was fucking Mexican whatsoever. And so he had to join the white gang. And he had to get a fucking swastika tattooed on his forehead. And he hadn't seen him for years and years and years, and then he comes out of jail. And he's got this fucking swastika tattooed on his forehead. And he was like, it was his only choice. And he had to fucking do it. Now they get to figure out what the fuck he's going to do with this life. So it's state specific, right? To get a swastika tattoo on your face, you have to earn that. You have to be a hardcore Nazi lowrider, P. Knight, desk, squad killer. Now, yeah, in California, you just have that because you want to be cool. Someone's going to put a knife right through that swastika. You have to earn that swastika. He got it in prison. So what do you have to do for that then? So usually you have to be like an active member of the car. So it's hard to speak on other states, because other states. It's California. It's California. So he was a Nazi lowrider of P. Knight, desk, squad. He was an active skinhead in the facility. There's plenty of white dudes that are Mexicans, like a meeklow type guy. There's plenty of dudes like that. There's just white skin dudes that are Mexican. But it's not you make that choice. You know what I mean? So a lot of these guys- Yeah, they have like paint swatches. Like when you go to Home Depot, and they hold it up to you, like, sorry, bud, you're going to have to come with the crackers. Yeah. Are you white and dark? I had a dark mustache. I got a dark mustache when I was in jail. So when I walked into a new place, the Mexicans and the woods would walk up. And I just fucking walk over the woods and the Mexicans would walk back to what they're doing. You hand over your paperwork and you just start fucking talking to the guys. No shit. So you make the choice, you know? You could be a white dude and go hang out with the blacks. If you're like a white crip, we'll kill you later on that day, or we'll try to. We'll eventually we'll get to you. But that's the choice you make. You decide who you hang out with. Fuck, man. You know what I mean? And now- What about a zebra? Tough choices in life, huh? Yeah, you would be a black. Mmm. Yeah. Okay. So it goes on old school US rules, one eighth black and you're black. Yeah, I like that. That's what the US used to. That used to be the law. Yeah, California is strict. It's really strict. It's not my rules. It's the rules. No, I get it. And now you're the top flip-flop guy in the world right now. What a weird life, bro. Really weird, right? Yeah. Fuck. Now's the point that she'll- Wait, that's Hope Solo's asshole right there. He sure is. See that? It says Hope. It's an old- Is that what was on the screen? Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. I just wanted you to- How do I get one of those? So a fan made that and sent us in. We still don't know who sent us that, actually. Yeah, we have no idea. All this stuff up here, all this weird shit, fire helmets, 3D printed dicks, bobbleheads, all- Everybody's sent it in. It's all from- You got a 3D printed dick right there. Cock-a-source racks. Yeah. So we- I mean, all this shit was came from fans. We don't know who it came from. We have a cock-stridge flip-flop for Andy Stump. It's just a body of a ostrich with a big cock head on it. Really? Cock-strich. Fuckin' Andy. Sean said Andy would have something like that. Yeah. And he had such a normal guy. And he has two dick-pair flip-flops. One of them's just a curved cock and the other one's a cock-strich. He's his current. Now, it'd be sweet to get a poachers dick. Yeah, if you got an elephant dick and made that into a pair of flops for me, that'd be great. I don't know why it just never comes across. The elephant dick? Yeah. They probably, like, dried and grinded up for- They probably eat it or something like that. Africans are crazy with that bullshit. They think that, like, an animal dick is going to make you hard. You're not wrong there. They're fuckin' wild. Yeah. I mean, there's a walrus dick right there. Sure. If you want to take that with you. Yeah. Oh, that thing? That's a walrus dick. Yeah, they're a bone-looking thing. It's not impressive. It's not that- Well, that's offensive. That's only half of it, but- I don't impress me much. I shouldn't I explain so. The dude who died for Mr. Hans could take that all day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He probably would have survived it. It was the other half that got him, you know? It's that second half it gets you. Now's the point of the show we get to the drinking bro of the week, which is someone who has inspired you or helped you become the person you are today. Who'd you like to give the drinking bro of the week to? That guy whose face got cut off, bro? Yeah. The Chomo. Oh, no. Here's the Chomo on this right there, Mom. Chester? Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to the dudes whose face got cut off. What is exactly someone who's inspired me? Yeah. God, there's so much- There's so many people. There's companies, there's people. But can I not pick a person? Yeah. So what really inspires me is watching other people do things the wrong way. So anytime I interact with a company and I don't like the way they do something, I literally break out my phone right in my notes section and I make a new policy that we're going to make sure we never do. So other people making mistakes is like my biggest inspiration. The reason our company is so good is because I just systematically pick apart all the things other companies do wrong and we're never going to do that. What's the last mistake that you saw somebody make that you physically wrote down? God, on the spot, I got to think. I have to go back and check my notes section. One of just a real basic one is just taking advice from other people. Like other people's advice is the worst. I'll give you an example. When we started this, we had big investors come to us and say, through a friend, say, here's exactly how you should do it. You've got to go offshore. You've got to outsource. You've got to lower the price. You have to be in the $100 price point range. You need to get on Shark Tank. You need to do all these things. There's another company out there. I don't know if I should say their name or not. The ones on Shark Tank? Yes. They were here. Maybe what, six years ago? You're talking about combat flip flops? Yes. Nothing against those guys. I'm stoked that they're killing them as a business. They were using their model as the model. I said, listen, those guys have a Shark Investor. They were on national TV. They make their stuff in Vietnam. I believe Cambodia or Laos? Yes. Because they get all their shit from South Vietnam via, I believe all their raw materials in Afghanistan. I think so. I don't want to show it's shade at those guys. Good for them, good business, make that money. They're in a good price point, all that sort of stuff. The people who pitched us the idea of the model, that's their model. We're the exact opposite of that. We have about 500,000 more followers. We probably make gargantuan more money, if that's even a word. We did every single thing, the opposite of what the experts suggested, and we were way more successful doing it. We didn't have to sell out any of our company by doing it. Yeah, it's interesting, man. Look, you're certainly one of those rare brands that's out there that it just fucking caught fire and celebrities and all this other stuff started sharing it. Again, man, I've been following you for a while, and I didn't know. I didn't know you or anything else. I just saw the celebrities and then people who had been on this show and friends of mine and all this other shit wearing it. What about the hot chicks? Hot chicks are always great. But anybody could have hot chicks and products. The most impressive videos for me, at least on your Instagram and stuff, because that's where I was following, are the ones on how it was made, the detail that went into these fucking things, and then watching you guys stretch out the skin on those Instagram videos where I was just like, "Oh shit, dude." That's fucking wild, and that's some more chicks is what you're saying. No, look, for me, this is the one, you're one of few companies where it wasn't the chicks. For me, it was like, "Hey, the way that these are made are so fucking interesting and fascinating, and the fact that there's only a couple of them, you know you want to buy them because they're going to be gone, and then seeing my friends and other celebrities on your sites who are all clamoring for these goddamn things that I know these guys in real life, they don't have to clamor for anything. They just genuinely want this one cool product, and that is extremely rare. I can only name a handful of companies like that, because usually everybody else outsources, and then they sell for a gajillion dollars. And they want to be more uninvolved in the business. Like we were talking about earlier, that CEO that has somebody else giving his money away, we have the exact opposite philosophy. We put our best people forward. The best people of the company are going to be the ones that make contact with the customers, and the people that are hired at a lower price point, they're going to be doing the mundane jobs that other people shouldn't be doing. They're not going to be the ones interacting with people on Instagram. They're not going to be the ones interacting with customers, because think about the phone company. If you have a problem with your phone carrier, what do you do? You call up, you complain, you get India or the Philippines. You keep complaining, you get like a better English speaking dude in the Philippines. You keep complaining, you'll get to the US, and eventually if you want to cancel, you'll get the stud team that'll solve all your problems. They have all access to do everything, right? Yeah. Right before you cancel, fuck that. We do the opposite. That person is the first person you talk to, a complete opposite. And those other people do all the mundane fucking jobs we don't want to do. No, I get it. Go look at the analytics report, shit like that. Yeah. The reason we don't post more of the content you're describing, we used to be extremely detailed on everything we did. But we have so many counterfeiters now that I like to make their life harder and not show them the difficult steps. Oh, got it. Got it. Because you're showing them literally how to make your products, how to copy. Yeah, they don't and listen, I didn't invent flip flops. I've said it a million times I didn't invent flip flops. I didn't invent the leather that we use. I just made the best style of flip flops with the best materials and zero compromise whatsoever. Yeah. And that together along with the quality and the passion is what makes the brand great. You can make something that looks like ours in India. No one's going to give a fuck. No one's going to care. It's not going to perform the same way. And you're not aligning with a company that you like their values. And the product itself, it's just made with total trash. But it's also like the sneaker head culture, where you want the original thing, like, and everybody's proud of that one thing. And if you don't have it, you make such a good point. So Nike's cost exactly the same amount across the whole board. So when you buy a $1,000 pair of flip flops from us, you're buying a piece of elephant leather. You've never seen elephant in your entire life. You're seeing it for the first time. You think it's cheap. Of course, it's not cheap. It's not cheap to make. It's not cheap to buy. It's not cheap to import. No, I mean, in the same way, like you've been on, maybe you haven't, but there are these bidding sites for sneakers for like really fancy whiskey, scotch whiskey and shit like that. That's what it's like for this leather as well. You have to go onto the marketplace and bid on that shit. That's wild. And you have to be, you have to be able, you have to be certified, not certified. It's not the right word. You have to be accepted onto the fucking market to bid in the first place. So they know you're not a fucking jabron. You have to earn it. Well, that's a whole separate, separate category. We buy directly from the tannery. So we have such a good relationship. We get our stuff before anybody else even touches it hot off the press. But so for a Nike, for example, a Nike cost like let's I'm gonna throw a loose number out there like four to seven dollars to make. They're all exactly the same. They're all made with cheap labor and just cheap synthetic materials. But when you see a Nike that costs $600, it's not made with more valuable materials. There's an intrinsic value of its scarcity, which is a real thing that should bring the value up. But that still only costs $7. And when that Nike goes to $1,000 or $2,000 or whatever rarity it has, you're not getting something that's more valuable or that's harder. The shoe itself is harder to get. But the material is easy to get. So when you buy a $5,600, $700 sneaker from Nike, you're literally getting ripped off simply because the cost to make it and the price of what you're paying is there's such a huge swing. It costs us a shitload of money to make a $1,000 pair of flip flop, just solely in labor and material and things like that. So you're buying cheap stuff for an inflated price versus buying a high quality product for a fair price. Well, hey, Rock, I'm a fan, I have been for a long time. Tell everybody where they can find you on social media. So the best place to find us is Instagram, T-O-E underscore H-O-L-D. We're a little bit shadow band right now. Shout out to Gordon Ryan. Because you got asses and titties out, dude, on every video. That's not what we get flagged for. It's some of the Trump stuff and things like that. But shout out to Gordon Ryan. He messaged Zuckerberg and told Zuckerberg our account is having some trouble. He had one of his people call me this morning and we're trying to work our way out of Instagram jail right now. That's great. That's great. So shoot us a message on Instagram. You can go to our website. It's shop toehold.com. But the website's just where you see some of our stuff. Really, if you want to see what we always have, follow us on Instagram, shoot us a message. Tell me you heard us here. And then just watch our stories every day. You're gonna see tons of cool stuff. We'll drop shirts. They'll be gone in a day. We'll drop rash guards. They're gone in a day. Now your shit's dope, man, across the board. Thank you. I get it. I get it, man. And for us, with a company like yours, obviously we're growing ours right now. It's always nice to have other entrepreneurs and CEOs on to see how they did it, why they did it, and everything else. So doing this job's fucking rad. I love what you guys have here. This salsa is incredible. Thank you. Two of these, I'd probably bang Nancy Pelosi. Maybe one and a half. Yeah. Maybe get that peach one on her. She's gone. She does. She has some heavies. You think they still look good? Probably. They're bought and paid for. Titties are hard to look bad. You ever seen an old head fucking pop the top on those things? I still look all right. I grew up on the internet. I've seen everything. You still look all right at that age? I remember seeing granny porn fucking in the dial up days. Well, the rest of the body's going to be real. But fake tits. Fake granny tits. I think they're different. Yeah, they do. But the rest of the body's going to look rough. It's rough, rough. I go, what's Chami? There was a catch you ever watched that show. It was Jason Bateman. It was on Netflix. Got it was really good. I forget it. I'm blanking on it. Ozark? Ozark. Yes. Great show. So there was the ugliest woman of all time in that show. Ever. And like, I don't know if they made her ugly for the show and that was part of the character or not. But she's fucking this like 19 year old and her bad. And after her husband dies. Pops off her fucking top. You see these fake tits on this old wrinkled grandma body and you're like, Holy shit, those held up. You couldn't believe it. You couldn't believe it. Yeah. Shout out to doctors. Exactly. Exactly. Appreciate you tuning in, kids. Go to iTunes, rate the show five star and leave a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away. Bob, do you want to end with her face there? That one will do. That one will do it right there. Pop that up on screen. Let that haunt everybody's dreams forever. Yeah. She's not dead. Bob, do we have audio from this? No, I don't think you can do guys. Don't do it. No, I got to go. I got to go. I can't hear Meek Mill getting fucked again. I'm sorry. Okay. He can. He's probably heard dudes getting raped and prison all the fun. Now we'd kill guys like that. Are we still alive? Yeah. You want to hear something real quick? There was one story. I wasn't there for this. One story an old-timer told me where there was a rape in jail. It was an Asian, an older Asian guy and a younger Asian guy raped him, right? Same kind of Asian or an Asian just younger older. Hard to say. It's hard to tell because they all like the same age. So the very next morning, there's this prison gang called the Bulldogs. They're just like another faction of the Mexican gang. The moment they walked out the cell, just because they were the closest cell to them and you have to deal with stuff like that, they cut his guts open, stabbed him in the neck and threw him over the tear and killed him. No. Very next morning. The moment the cell door popped open. Jesus Christ. So that's the one incident that I've heard about through an old-timer. That's what happens if you pull that kind of shit in California. Damn dude. So your booty holes are safe in California. Rice really? Do some crime. All right. Hunter Biden's crack pipe in the chat says, "Rice on rice crime." Yeah, "Rice on rice." It's sad when it happens that way. Sure is. The guys in the chat are so funny. Yeah, there are a bunch of assholes. Yeah, the best. Yeah, the best. Your guys are so, you're so f***ing funny. Go to iTunes, raise your five certainly with a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away. You want to help us out with the Seltzer? 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