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There's a list on hoops type of the draft workouts. So we'll start there, Brady. We're gonna talk first round, read out a couple of which we reported on, a couple of which the great Anthony Chang is reported on, and others that have just been on social media, et cetera. And those are in the first round in no particular order. Tyler Smith from the G League Ignite, Kaleel Ware, center out of Indiana, Zach Edie. Y'all know who he is, I don't need to say much more about him in first college accolades. Isaiah Collier out of USC, Bulldog Point guard, Devin Carter, the son of Anthony Carter, junior out of Providence, and Ron Holland from the G League Ignite as well. Also wanna throw out, I've heard Tyler Colick has been worked out, he's gotten first round consideration. Of those names, Brady, what are your initial thoughts on who they're working out that are kinda mocked around 15? What are your thoughts on those guys? And just initial takeaways is we kinda digest the list so far. I'm sure it's gonna grow, and before we say anything, let me just tell everyone. I guarantee you that there's probably a handful of guys that we're not gonna hear about that they worked out, that they worked out, and that might be the pick. So just watch for the head fake y'all, but Brady, your initial thoughts. - Yeah, the fact that there's a list out there of guys that the Heat or Link 2 is pretty much tells you that none of the guys on this list are probably even in consideration. But with that said, I think there are some guys that, like when you name those first round guys, like a lot of the guards and wings there are defensive minded players, and I think that's what fits, is that even though we sit here all the time and talk about the needing extra score, or they need the offensive punch, or all this stuff, they still want a baseline of some level of hard-nosed defensive ability, like those guys that you're mentioning, like Ron Holland, Devin Carter, Collier, like all those guys have like that defensive bulldog mentality that I think that just kind of pops off the screen. So it makes sense, like if they were to go for a smaller wing or a guard, that's the way they would go. So Devin Carter is the guy I think that a lot of people are like kind of immediately go to, especially because I didn't expect him to jump up the boards this quickly. Like I kind of had a feeling he'd be there at 15, like pretty decisively, and we're kind of sitting now. A lot of people don't think he will be. They think he's a guy, I mean, there's a team out there that kind of promised him a spot, whatever that means, like a lottery team pretty much saying that if you're there, we'll take you. So that makes things interesting, but I do definitely like him just because of that stuff we talked about defensively, but he also has, you know, a weird looking shot, but he's a good shooter. He does a lot of that type of stuff. So if he's there and with the Anthony Carter tie and all that stuff, it just makes sense, I think to consider him at that level. But when you name those guys, the guy I've been talking a lot about is Tyler Smith. That's the guy I keep coming back to. I kind of started with him a while ago, but I just think he, I keep sitting with Mivy's picks recently over the last few years. Like they always find something unique. Like there hasn't been a tie, like it was high upside with the obit and high floor with the high knee. So there's not like, they're not picking sides there. Like they'll go on both sides. - Very true. - But I do think there is like a unique element, like Yo, which was just a different type of player. There wasn't anybody like him in that draft. He was like a big pass or ball handler at 6'10. So you go with that guy. High knee, because he's unique, just because of his ability to just step right in and play a role, his footwork, 'cause all that stuff that kicked in. So I do think when we say, you're talking about some guys that fit Miami, it doesn't always end up being that. It always ends up being like, they're just kind of being this mastermind and trying to find a way to fit a different guy into their system. And Tyler Smith kind of fits that for me. Like he's not a, I didn't even know to classify him as a winger a big when I was doing my like thread on Twitter because he's 6'10, like he's a bigger guy, 6'11, but he's not really a big man. But he, I don't know if you call him a wing, but I just think that tweener sense is just interesting. And the fact that he's super athletic, can do think, has a high upside offensively, has the ability to shoot in the outside. Like I feel like they could definitely do things with him. And everybody talks about it all the time. They want somebody that could play in their own lineups, but also play next to BAM. And with this guy, it's probably easier for him to play next to BAM than maybe behind him. But I do think he could, especially in Miami system, like they can put a 6'11 guy that has a little bit of a big man history at the back of five spot for certain lineups or things like that. So I just think he's the guy that kind of pops for me a little bit just because I feel like he is dead. Like we're going to talk about a lot of these different bigs. They're pretty similar, like a lot of them, like a lot of them that are in that range, even do similar things. He's the only guy that's a little bit unique in that sense. So that's just the guy I keep it on. - I think it's interesting you bring up a guy from the G League Ignite. I also was interested to see Ron Holland as a player that they worked out. That's just not, I mean, I see the defensive part of it, but and Carter thing seems like a layup. I would say this, Devin Carter should consider Miami a soft landing spot. That's basically as far as he'll fall in the draft. That's how I kind of absorb that situation. I think Tyler Smith is an interesting prospect. I saw that on Kevin O'Connor's mock draft, he's got a 7-1 wingspan, 6-9, 2-24. So there's interesting stuff there. Versatile, defensive upside. Those were some of the point outs that he had shades of Charlie Villanueva if any of the old heads remember him. I think that that's an interesting name. I also know there's people in our network that are big Kaleil Ware fans. And he's a player that I think there's been questions about his motor. And I think those will be answered in interviews and in workouts and also to a degree watching tape and kind of thinking what you can maximize out of a guy. So that's an interesting other big man name. I don't really get the Zack Edie stuff, frankly. I guess you got to do, you had to approach with due diligence. But I'm interested, I guess I'm also surprised that we don't see that there's some names missing here. Tristan De Silva just jumps out at me as a name that I would expect that they're gonna work out at some point. Of these first round guys, Brady, who have we not mentioned? 'Cause I know you keep going back to Tyler Smith, but is there somebody they haven't worked out, somebody in their range that you think maybe is a player we should look out for just a player you like in general? - Somebody I know that's been getting a lot of credit toward Miami and being tied to him. Some surprise they haven't given him workout is Jalen Tyson. Like that's kind of the one just because he fits the mold of a lot of the guys we were talking about, like a lot of those heat type players. But it's been put out there that Miami kind of likes him and I'd see why. Like he's just all defense, he has the energy. It feels like in a way I was saying before, like if you were to find a guy to replace Caleb's type of mold, it's somebody like Jalen Tyson that could kind of step in, does not need a long period of time to kind of work him in. It feels like he could kind of step in and play that role, be that outside kind of spot up shooter that they'll help off of him be able to knock it down. So I think he's one of them, Jared McCain, I think is another one just because of his pure shooting ability. I think he's put on a lot of good showings at these combines and everything. I know a lot of people don't want to talk about guards and I understand why because of Miami's loss there. - Small guards especially. - Yeah, so I get it, but I do think it, you said it, like what's that eating? You do your kind of due diligence, I guess a little bit. And then the other big man is Eve's Missy. That's kind of the other guy just because he intrigues me the most just because of his pure defense. Like a lot of these guys have good shop blocking ability or complaint drop. He is absolutely super versatile. Like he is a very versatile big man defender. They're limited offensively, but like I said, a lot of these big men are going to be limited. Like, I mean, look, every guy Miami picks up off their couch for a veteran minimum is limited offensively over the last few years. So if you can get a guy that's just that talented defensively, I think the issue is when you're saying, well, we've developed certain guys on drafted and gotten in that point, are we going to use our 15th pick on a guy that's just a pure defensive monster and then there's this limitation offensively? I don't know, that will stat. That'll answer based on, do they really worry about positional need or are they really going best player available? So that's kind of the question I put there, but I think he's another interesting one. But I will say, because Greg, I actually had this question on a playback a few weeks ago where I said, what do you think Miami's opinion on G League Ignite would be? Just because they feel like like a traditional organization that wants like a team to go through the college realm and everything. And the fact that they do have two G League Ignite guys that are really in their range and are very like high possibilities of Ron Holland slipping or Tyros being there. I do think that's interesting the fact that they are kind of looking into those guys a little bit more. - Agree, I think they're kind of spreading their wings a little bit and that shows open mindedness. I like that. The name, the kid from Cal that you bring up, the more I look around on the internet on these damn mock drafts and maybe they don't know what the hell is going to happen. He's like a second round prospect. So it would be a real leap for him to be taken at 15. I don't know if you have a trade back scenario or something like that, but you're right. It's an interesting name. I do think that they would be if they identify a player they like and if they need to bring in a player that can contribute in my opinion because they don't have the luxury of stashing guys. They need low cost players that can contribute immediately when you have this top heavy salary structure. So to me, they got to go with a player who's ready to contribute. That's why like me see, I hope I'm pronouncing his last name correctly, probably not. And wait till we get to these second rounders. I'm going to butcher some names for y'all, but I just don't know if he's too raw for what they're trying to do right now in the Jimmy era. We will see about that. That was just a quick recap of the first round. I think we gave y'all some names to chew on, go on YouTube, check out their highlights. I admittedly don't watch a ton of college basketball until the tournament rolls around. So I'm doing a lot of catch up as well. And I think that that's pretty normal, but at least we've given you some framework around guys that are in the first round or just generally around pick 15 that you can look at. 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Same is true of shaving as NBA transactions. harries.com/five for your $3 trial set. - If your day sounds like we need the report ASAP. - You deserve medulla. If you've persevered through. If you deserve this rich golden lager with a crisp or refreshing taste. Or if you overcame. - All right. - Two over is two over. - You deserve this ice cold reward. Ladelen, remarkable fight. Trick responsibly. You're imported by Crown and Port Chicago, Illinois. - What's next? At Moss Adams, that question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future. As one of America's leading, accounting, consulting and wealth management firms, our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs. We leverage industry focus insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance. Uncover opportunity and move upward at MossAtoms.com. - So second round guys. I guess I'll kick us off with this list quickly. And I don't know a lot of these guys, I'm gonna be honest, but I do have some intel on a couple of them that we can talk through. Nothing groundbreaking though. Nobody needs to like clip this and try to aggregate. So here's some second round names. Dylan Jones from, was that Weber State? Weber State, he's a junior. Khashad Johnson out of Arizona, Tristan Newton out of Yukon. Zion Pullen out of Florida. That's a name to watch. Ogiela's out of USC, another name to watch. Kennan Blackshire out of Nevada. I hope I said his name correctly. Apologies if I didn't. I have not seen him play to be frank. Marcus Domask out of Illinois. Jesse Edwards out of West Virginia. Kristin Eneruna out of Cleveland State. Hopefully I did that name justice. Sam Griffin out of Wyoming and Joseph Girard, the third out of Clemson. That's just a few names that the Heat have reportedly either scheduled a workout or already conducted a workout. I'm gonna be honest, a lot of those guys I hadn't heard of before. I've heard Zion Pullen is, he has guys in the organization that are fans. So that's a name to watch. Point guard out of Florida. Senior point guard out of Florida. But what were your initial thoughts on some of those guys, if any thoughts? And then quickly, second round guys that you like, we can just kind of go rapid fire on any names that you kind of have pinpointed in the second round. And then I'll do the same on the other side. - Yeah, so I'll start here. 'Cause kind of what I was talking about with the big men in the first round, where I was saying kind of a lot of them are similar. And we were just talking about kind of Miecy being, if you were to take a 15, it's a bit of a reach. You know what I mean? I don't think mine even considers anything a reach, just of what they've done in the past. But there's like an example here when you named some of the second round guys, which is Jesse Edwards. Like, he's a 6-11 big man that does a lot of the stuff offensively that some of these guys that we were talking about around 15, some of those big men do. And that's what I feel like Miami's thinking. That's why, when everybody's like, oh, why wouldn't they take a big man? That's what they need. I think they go with like the wing to maybe guard, but I'm more thinking the wing type player with that 15 pick, just because they know they could swing around this second round pick, or even undrafted. And there's big men that they feel they could develop in a similar fashion. Like, I don't feel like there's a big difference, to be honest, between some of those guys. Like, there's just limitations to a lot of these guys. Like, Jesse Edwards is kind of the guy that pops just as an example, because he's a good roller. He's a lob threat. He's a put-back guy. He's in the right spot defensively. Like, a lot of the things that you'll see talked about for a lot of those other guys in the first round, a guy like that does. And then there's, you mentioned Poland. I think that's an interesting one, just if he's there. Like, I could see Miami liking a player like that. I've seen people like compare him to like a, like a Kyle-type offensive game. Like, I could see that happening. But then there's another guy, Tristan Newton. Like, when I think of Miami picking somebody up, he feels like a guy that could fall undrafted, and Miami scoops him up to run their offense in the summer. Like, that's what I think of, 'cause he's a guy that's like a high IQ point guard passer-type guy that just has, you know, just has good skills on the ball to kind of set guys up. Almost like, and I know people don't want to hear this comparison, but like a, like a summerly Drew Smith of this season. Like, just a guy to be put guys in the right spot to play that point guard position in that role. So, look, this is the, you can trust Miami probably on that Thursday, two weeks from now, in that second round day to the undrafted role, probably more than the Wednesday, just because of how good they are in this range. Like, when you hear some of these names now, that you're mentioning from hearing from different people from the second round, the undrafted, like that's when I think we should really listen, because I think when you start hearing that stuff, it matters. When you hear stuff about the first round guys, it's probably a smoke screen, like for a lot of the time. So, I do think a lot of these guys are interesting, but like I said with the first round, when you name those guys, a lot of the guys even in the second round, a lot of them are like strong, bulky, hard-nosed defenders that are just gonna be, what they do every year in their summer league, what they do every year in their training camp, next year where they put a couple of guys and they just kind of play a certain role. It'll be interesting to see what they do, but I definitely do think the second round picks could be interesting just for that reason. - Tristan Newton, to your point, Yukon senior, they have him, Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer as a mocked going 49 to the Indiana Pacers, and he has shades of Delaun Wright's game, so that brings that close to home. So, I see what you mean there. One of the guys that they've worked out that I think we should watch for is Cashah Johnson, senior out of Arizona. I think that he's like the type of guy that if they got him in the gym, he could become a sculpted player, and it's similar kind of to the big, and now his name is escaping me that Indiana drafted early in the first round, Jerace Walker. I think that there's some similarities in their game, so that's a guy to watch, but the other guy that I wanna mention in the second round is a guy out of Creighton. His name is Baylor Shireman, and he's a lefty shooter, he's a guard, so this would be kind of different than your approach Brady that you mentioned about kind of going with the big, with the later pick, which they may do. I think you make a ton of sense 'cause something we should consider is Heywood Highsmith and Caleb Martin are not guaranteed to be back, and you may need to replenish that, and pick 15, maybe the way to do that, so to your point, maybe they do go with a big, which is needed, but if they don't, just keep an eye on it, keep tabs on that name out of Creighton, Baylor Shireman. I know that that's a team that the Heat scouted throughout the regular season the time. Any final thoughts before we close? - Yeah, I'll say two other names that we didn't talk about on that workout list. I would think Daron Holmes, I think it's an interesting one, just because he's also another one of that group of big men, but he seems like a, he seems like the more he type guy, just because he has the ability to stretch the floor a little bit more, he's just kind of wider and stronger. But I think the interesting thing with him is, I've seen like all over the place for his mock, like I've seen people talk about like with the 15th pick, and then I see another mock dress where he's like falling, maybe he could fall to Miami in the second round. So I think he's somebody to keep an eye on, and then another random one in the second round that I could see Miami doing is Ryan Dunn, who's just an all defensive player, just was all over the place on that end of the floor. Like I think there's a lot of question marks about his offensive game, but like Miami's done that before. And if he falls on draft, then I think it's pretty guaranteed he's gonna be with Miami, just because he's just such, he's just so that type of player. I can 100% see him in the Heat's Summer League team. And you just brought up not having any good eyes fit like for sure or Kayla Martin, like if you even have a thought that hey, what I spent's gonna be gone, like go grab Ryan Dunn just to make things up, muck things up defensively. So that's just another name I would think to watch. - So we've given you a bunch of names. Inevitably, we probably haven't mentioned who the Heat's gonna draft, and they'll chuckle if they do ever listen to this. But that's okay. We'll keep supplying you with more names. We'll continue to update. We got a ton of draft coverage planned. We're gonna bring in our friend Adele. He has a great YouTube channel, which we're gonna make sure to plug. I don't have it in front of me right now. I apologize Adele. But he'll be coming on for some really extensive deep dives on some of these guys as we get near to draft day, which is about two weeks away. So more to come as it relates to the draft, but Brady and I wanted to just at least keep you updated. 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