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Overrated/Underrated: DeBrusk scoring 30, Top-4 Desharnais, and Cheese Chills

Dan and Sat debate whether or not topics such as Jake DeBrusk scoring 30+ next season, Vinny Desharnais in the top-4, and much more is overrated or underrated.

Duration:
30m
Broadcast on:
04 Jul 2024
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mp3

Dan and Sat debate whether or not topics such as Jake DeBrusk scoring 30+ next season, Vinny Desharnais in the top-4, and much more is overrated or underrated.

This podcast was produced by Josh Elliott-Wolfe.

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(upbeat music) - Back on Knock Central, Dan Rachow, Satyarsha. We're in the Kintech, Studio Kintech, Canada's favorite orthotics provider powered by thousands, thousands of five-star Google reviews, sort of feet. What are you waiting for? And of course, you wanna be a part of Overrated Underrated, which is coming up in just a moment. You can send in a topic for debate at the Dunbar Lumber text message inbox, 650-650. The Bridge Street Dunbar Lumber in Ladner has moved to progress way in Tilbury's industrial park. More room, more product, more awesome. Details at Dunbar Lumber.com. Let's get right into it. It's Wednesday. It's Overrated Underrated here on Knock Central. (upbeat music) - Yep, we got Buchar's Josh and Ben behind the glass. Overrated underrated? - Final overrated underrated of a Knock Central for the season. - Yes. - Though it'll be making its way over to the people show. - Yeah, we still need to fill time in the summer. - Yes. - So, three hour shows. - Three hour shows. - But it's three hour shows. Remember back in the day when we did four hour shows? - No. I've blocked that memory completely out of my mind. - The pandemic shows were four hours and then the summer is a few years back over four hours shows, yeah. - Kind of insane. - You just get delirious by the fourth hour. It's like, what am I even saying? Getting myself into trouble, no doubt. - I get to while listening to you're like, wait, you, I worked like nice? Yeah, it's fair. It's just different. - Overrated underrated, you know how it works. You give us a topic. We tell you if it's overrated underrated or perfectly rated like, the eyes are planned. Overrated underrated are perfectly rated. - Overrated. - Yeah, definitely overrated. - I've never seen somebody like their reputation go from like, man, this guy's the best GM in the league to, what the heck is this guy doing? Like everybody is saying this in unison. It is consensus feeling on Steve Eisenman these days. - Like we're just so confused, all of us. All of us are confused like, what are you doing? - And the thing is like building. - And the lie always is like, hey, well, you don't see it yet, but you'll see it eventually. - Yeah. - You know, it's like snake oil, they're selling you, right? It's like eventually it'll come through, right? Like the bees will sprout, I promise. It just takes time, guys. - Yeah. - And he's nourishment. - It's five years, no playoffs with the eyes are planned. - Mate, how can it be underrated? So they trade a second round pick in Jake Wollman to clear up 3.4 million. They trade a fourth round pick to move Robbie Fabry. - Yeah. - Just a sign, Vladimir Terasenko, Patrick Kane. - Christian Fisher. - And Christian, like, I just don't understand. - They replaced Wollman with Eric Gustafson and William Lagison. - And they're paying Eric, so they're paying, so basically they replaced Wollman with a $2 million dollar defenseman for two years. - Yeah. - Two years left on Wollman's deal, which is a cap saving a 1.4 million. So like that 1.4 million was so important, you had to trade a second round pick for it. - I don't get it. It would leave and brought up the Sebastian Koso thing, which was like, okay, all right. Yeah, that's right. They drafted a goalie in the first round, a couple of years ago, and now have four veteran goalies on their roster. - They're vibing. They are vibing. I will start with this one from Woodrow. Jake Dubresque scoring 25 or more goals on Pedersen's wing next season, overrated or underrated. - It is 25, you said? - Underrated. - 25. - Feels like a low bar. - I'd, I'd, I mean. - Make a bold clip. - Maybe I'm drinking it. - Maybe I'm, uh. - I'll reach, I reach, are you going to reach? - Let me hit record real quick. - Maybe I've got the, the blue and green, colored sunglasses on right now. - What color is the drink you're having? - It is just water, so. - Okay. - Which can be dangerous in the studio as we know. I'm like, I said it on Twitter already. Like I, I'd put a guarantee that Jake Dubresque scores 30 next year. - Guarantee a 30. - If he plays a full compliment of games, let's say like Jake Dubresque, if he plays at least 70 games, he will score 30 goals. - Wow, 30 goals. All right. I'm guaranteed. - I guarantee you he will score 30 goals. - Well, I can see him scoring 30 goals. - It's a guarantee he will score 30 goals. - I'm not feeling comfortable saying he's a guarantee. - Almost basically, like almost every year of his career, the guy has scored at a 30 goal pace. - And you know what, like he's, you know what? He's, uh, Brock Besser. Same thing, Brock Besser always on pace for 30. - But never hit the actual mark of 30. This year was his worst year. He played with a broken hand. So give him, cut him some slack, okay? Scored 19 goals this year. Every, every other year, he was on pace for like 30 plus. - For like, it couldn't even work for like 30 days. I'm just kidding. - I was working. - No, you were ever. - But he was tough though. - Yeah, it was rough. - So since Jake Dubresque entered the National Hockey League, there are just 85 players who have scored more goals than he has. - Yeah. - I just can't believe it. Reach has become the biggest Dubresque stand in the market. I love it. - Just looking at the numbers, man. - Is Dubresque Italian? - Must be. - Just looking at the numbers. - Okay, from Reach's guy to Sat's guy, this one from Chris. Keep for Sherwood scoring 30 in his first year as a connector. - Well, by the way, that was really funny on Twitter last night. - Oh, which one? - Well, I mean, there's a few. But the one, so Chris Conte, funny guy, right? Because we were talking about Sherwood and I was talking about how exciting he is. But I said, I'm not saying he's going to score 30 or anything. And then he puts that on Twitter. I heard Sat saying he's going to score 30 goals. And people I believed it. It's like all these people were applying. Like I can't believe that you're such an idiot. And the best reply was this dude saying, "Yeah, I was listening." And when I heard that, I stopped listening. I'm like, I didn't even say that. Like, why are you lying? How are you making stuff up about this? But anyways, it was really funny. He's not getting 30 overrated. But, but, like, you know, a hot seat. - Sat says, "Keep for Sherwood overrated." - Oh, wow. - Wow. - What a flip on your guy, Sarah. - Flip flop, right? Talk about a flip flop. - That's me, the flip flop. - Right. But I think the most, like the most in, the interesting thing is, can you get 20? I don't think he's going to get 20. But that to me would be the, you know, is he a guy that could like surprise all of us and get 20, especially because of an elevator role? 'Cause here's the thing, guys. Is Neil's Hoglander a sure-fire staple in the top six with this coaching staff? - Absolutely not. - Right. And how many right hand shots do they have? - Not many. - Not enough, right? - That's why they drafted like 17 of them. - Right. - With the three draft picks they had. - So, okay. And they've shown whether it was Lafferty at one point, full of Giuseppe playing with Besser and J.T. Miller, right? They're not going to be afraid of putting, quote unquote, checkers in those roles that can execute their game plan and be productive. So like, it wouldn't shock me that you see something along those lines, but, you know, that would be as spicy as it gets like 20 goals maybe. - Scored 10 goals last year with Nashville. Dakota Joshua had 11 in his first year with the Canucks and then bumped it up to 18 and 63 games last year. Could you see like Sherwood, I think he's going to get enough time to be in the double digit goals, but could he push 15? - Yeah, to me, like, if he gets to 15, that's like Q. - Yeah. - If he plays 82 games against 15, that's massive. - Like they, you know, Dant and Heinen and Kiperture would probably end up playing middle six type minutes if we want to put a label on it like that. - Well, Heinen is more likely to get 20 goals than Sherwood is. - Yeah. But both, with those two players, you potentially added 30 goals to your lineup, which is not nothing for the bottom six. You know, they had players on that pace last year, but like, you know, Sam Lafferty and both Ilya McKay, I've just decided to be complete pumpkins from the second half of the season. - What was one of the things we talked about? A lot of career years last season. - Yeah. But now they have new guys. Can a couple of new guys have career years? - Yeah. We will see about that. So, Keith for sure would overrate it on the 30 goals because nobody here on Canucks Central actually said that, but. - That's funny. - We are optimistic on Keith for sure would prospect within the Canucks lineup. - Next. - Next one is from Andre Vinny Dejarnay developing into a top four defenseman, overrated or underrated. - Well, I know I'm getting the rose colored glasses on for Jake Dubrask, but not sure I see it with Vincent Dejarnay. Not that I don't, like, not that I hate the signing or anything, there might be some untapped potential there. It's just, I think he kind of is what he is. He's the third pair guy that's probably gonna play third pair-ish type minutes for the Vancouver Canucks. He'd have to improve his puck skills quite a bit to develop into a legit top four D guy. - Honestly, like, he's a guy who had a few healthy scratches and he played with 70 odds some games, so he was pretty much a staple on their back end, right? And the playoffs had some healthy, healthy scratches. To me, the step would be, can he be an everyday player where you don't consider taking him out? That, to me, is more realistic than him becoming a top four defenseman, 'cause that's still a step, right? And becoming a dependable, you know, maybe a number five. Can you do that? - Mm-hmm. - That, okay, to me, would be more realistic than top four. I'll throw this by you, though, reach. And same with you, Josh. Patrick Alveen said, "Maybe Philoparona "can coin-hues play on separate pairs." There are only so many right-handed options. - I was thinking about this. - Right. - 'Cause Vincent de R&A lining up to play with Quinn-hues? Not so much in terms of, like, he's the solution for Quinn-hues, but, like, if you're exploring different guides, it's like, it's either, if it's not her own, it gets de R&A, or it's Myers, or Noah Juleson. - Yeah. - And we don't do only Juleson as a seventh defenseman, so it's either de R&A or Myers. Like, there are two guys to choose from. - Yep. - We know with Myers, it hasn't always been, you know, - Myers is not a great fit for Quinn-hues. - And I'm not saying de R&A is gonna be that fit, but, like, we've seen at times, the more stay-at-home guy, and de R&A, I guess, could maybe be something alongside Luke Shen, but one thing Luke Shen did really well, which was underrated, the first pass was good, and still is good, and we always talk about how he makes that good first pass. - Well, he improved his puckskill-- - No, we talked to Adam Oates with this. Like, he improved his puckskill a ton to get himself back into the NHL. - That's what de R&A has to do, but can he be the younger kind of Luke Shen for Quinn-hues? - Not full-time, but, like, let's say, can they play 20/30 games next year, maybe? - Yeah. - Or, like, whatever, right? - Let's see how that works. - Next one from Jabo, size on the blue line. - Overrated or underrated? - Look, I think it is a prerequisite to have, you know, a good amount of heft on your blue line, and this Canucks very much prove that, but also NHL-free agency getting a little crazy and overpaying to bring size onto their blue lines is still something that I think is overrated. And it's why I kind of like the Canucks deciding not to spend too much on Brendan Dillon or even having a limit to what they were going to go to for Nikita Zadorov and saying, you know, we can maybe not find this player exactly, but we can find a cheaper option that gives us the ability to make the team better all around. And so, ultimately, I still think it costs too much, and average players get paid above what they should, and that's where teams end up getting themselves into trouble. - Yeah. - So, overrated. - Yeah. - I'd agree. - Next one from Wade, the possibility of trading Neil's Hoglander, overrated or underrated. - I'm having to make sure it's underrated. Like, it's such a, like, you guys know me. I mean, I wouldn't hesitate in doing that. - That's trading anybody under six feet tall. - Well, not anybody, you know, I got my Quim. (laughing) - Oh, great. - So, he likes the Norris winning defense win. Otherwise, you wait six feet, get out of dodge. - Yeah, at least six feet to walk through this door, right? No, but-- - That's what I'd say about me as a co-host, unbelievable. - Man, we talk, you don't play hockey. (laughing) I don't have to worry about going into the trenches with your reach. - It's fair enough. - I just gotta worry about talking on air with you. It's all good, buddy. No, I'm just kidding. But, no, I mean, I'm not even sure it's underrated. - Because it wouldn't bring that grade of a return? - Well, I think the return that you'd get on Neil's Hoglander right now, it's either as part of a package for something, or he would bring you back a draft pick. - Mm. - And, like, is it worth it for you to trade Neil's Hoglander right now? - No, you're not getting it first. For me, like, like a second? Like, is it worth it for you to do that? Like, he's probably, like, for the 1.1 million, 20 gold score, has the potential. Like, he definitely has a value of a second round pick. Like, the connection can say he has more value, but no team is giving you a first round pick form right now. - No. - But, like, is it worth it for you to trade him for a second? Probably not. And unless you can find the trade fit where he's part of a package, so, like, that's where it's like, I can't call it underrated 'cause it's not like, he's not like this, like, chip that's like, man, they can flip him tomorrow and find an answer. - I guess just, like, he's too valuable as a 1.1 million dollar option for depth scoring to this lineup that it makes sense to trade him for what you could get back in return. Like, if you were able to, you know, include him as the centerpiece of a Martin H.A.S. deal, sure, sign me up. That's something I'd listen in on, but Carolina's not viewing Nils Holglonder as a centerpiece to a Martin H.A.S. trade, which is why they've never really been keen on trading with Vancouver. - Yeah. - And so, I think Holglonder's value, like, while I could see a trade happening in the future, I just think right now, because of his salary, it's just too valuable to have him at 1 million bucks on this roster. - Is he more valuable as a trade chip in season? - It could be, you know, at the deadline, where maybe you have more cap space, you have some things that you're able to do to open up cap space, and you're trying to upgrade your lineup, and that's the cost of doing business. That, I could very much see, it's just right now, I don't know where the fit is. - Well, like, at least explore it to start the season, and then see where it's at. And if you're exploring a trade then, then can you flip it for a pick and then use that pick to get something you want? You know what I mean? So, to answer the question, probably a push. - Yeah, it's perfectly rated. All right, next one is from Petrus. The idea of signing, not that I didn't know of. This one, the idea of signing Oliver Schillington or Adam Bogfist. - I wonder about Schillington, where he's headed, you know, went through an interesting situation there in Calgary, and you hope he can just get his NHL career back on track for all that he's been through. - With Bogfist, like, do you see the Canucks really being in on guys that move the puck well but have questions about their all-around game? I understand they need some more puck skills on the back end, but end of the day, like I just don't see Rick Tockett and Adam Foot trusting these guys in big spots, unless they show an element to their game that, well, Schillington has shown a better element to his game, I should say that, but certainly from a Bogfist perspective, like, what has he shown that could lead you to believe that he would be trusted in big spots? - Well, and I think he hasn't shown that. It's more about can get that out of him. - Yeah. - The thing is, like, his biggest strengths is like the offensive game being on the power play and he'd be firmly third behind her own again, he was anyways. So there aren't a ton of opportunities, even a power play too, to explore some of that stuff. So is he good enough defensively for him to be an everyday player and be a two-way guy? Maybe he can grow into that. Like, he's not a small player, six feet tall, he's like 190 some pounds. Like, he's not a small defenseman by any means, right? I just don't know if he's looking to restart his career that Vancouver will even make sense for him. - Right. - You know what I mean? Like, do you want to go somewhere where you have a bit more opportunity? 'Cause here he'd be fighting Noah Julesin and Nubini Deir Harnay as the right-handed number six defenseman, you know? And on the left side, I mean, four boards there, but yeah, if you get a lefty, I think especially with four boards, injury, history, I think you have a better pathway on the left side to get a guy that can at least play games for you, right? - And Chillington might be able to do that. - But the thing is, he probably, does a word on him was he won's around two-some million for two years? - Yeah. - And that's like, I don't think the Canucks can do that with him, and I wouldn't do that with him anyways. Like, I'd do one of those guys on a one-year deal that a million or something. - Yeah. - That's pretty much as far as I'd go. - They may end up with teams that have, have less things figured out, maybe are more so in a building type of mode than contending type of mode. All right, what's next? - Next one from Justin and East Van, even pasta out of the Stanley Cup, overrated or underrated. - Underrated? What a big move from Roberto Belonga. - Yeah, that was fantastic, and then get the Parmesan on top of it too. - I will say like it would probably, maybe a bit of a germaphobe in me, but like, I don't know if I want to eat anything really out of the Stanley Cup, but it's the Stanley Cup. - You clean it. I mean, it's like, the thing is it's not, like, you can clean it as like, what's stainless steel? - It's not like regular dishware though, like the cup has seen some things, you know? - Yeah, but it's silver, you can clean it. It's not like, you know, it's stuck in its pour, it's just metal, right? Like, you're fine, if you clean it, it's fine. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Sure. - Yeah. - Sure. - Sure, it's fine. - It's totally fine. - Next one from Andre. Ronaldo taking all of the free cakes, operated or underrated. - Andre just striking a chord with me. It's the most overrated thing on the planet. - There's nobody I'd rather watch Portugal play a game with than you do. It's just like watching LeBron play if you're with me. It's just nonstop. - Just hate on everything LeBron does. - I love it. - Yeah, that's me with Christiano Ronaldo. I mean, he's, look. - I, growing up Italian, especially Ithalo kind of day, is it? - Did you grow up Italian? - Yes. - Oh. - There's like this weird rivalry that I grew up with with Portuguese folk and in the Toronto area and it's just like, you hate each other and it mostly revolves around your soccer love. And so we always hated on Ronaldo. And as he's gotten older in his career, and you see it in the Euro right now. Like Portugal's got an unbelievable team. - Yeah, they do. - And I think they actually are limiting themselves by having Ronaldo play every minute of every match in these big games. And, you know, people are starting to see it a little bit more. Like the guy's long in the tooth. He's over 40, man. You're a super sub. Give it up. What do you want? You want to win more? And you want to be the glory. You want all the glory. And he tends to want the glory. - He does want the glory, right? I mean, he's won a Euro in the past, right? - Yes, but he wasn't on the field for the final, right? The guy who replaced him because he was injured there and ended up scoring the goal. - Right, right. So I guess that's why he wants to be there. He wants to have his moment at the Euro. He wants to have the messy moment, right? - But it's like, it's one of those things, even when they've, so actually, when they win at the penalties this time, he took the first one, which is good. It's what you should do. But in the past, he would always be the guy that takes the fifth penalty. It's like, you never want your best penalty taker to be fifth, 'cause there's a chance he may not kick. You want him to be first or third. There's a guarantee that he's going to kick at least once. So don't let your best pk taker. But when you want the glory, and you want to be fifth, because that's your best chance to be the guy that ends it, I guess. And I've just always had this beef about Ronaldo. So yeah, it's overrated. - Overrated! - He's overrated. - Yep. Next one from-- - Did I say Ronaldo's overrated? - You did, yes. - Also, you're telling him. - Yes. - I click. Overrated, underrated. All you can eat sushi. - So like, I mean, Vancouver is different, right? Because like, if you ask this question most places in North America, the answer is probably no. - That's dangerous, dude. - Yeah, it's overrated, like don't go there. But in Vancouver, you can find some pretty good all you can eat places, can you? - Yeah. - I've never been to an all you can eat sushi place. - Yeah, now there are some places you don't want to go to. And there are some, like you gotta like look around, but there are a couple, but it's worth it. 'Cause like, you can just have a lot of fun, man. When I was younger, I used to be like, so when I was in high school and college, all you can eat sushi was like, what we did. That was our thing. - With performance enhancers, yeah. (laughing) - Wow. Get your worth, get your worth, yeah. I mean, yeah. - But with or without, it's still like, it was one of those things. - You're just absolutely crush, you know? Just like everything on the menu. - It's like you get four of your buddies together. Yeah, we'll get 150 California rolls. - Unbelievable. Just the amount of food you could take down. You know, since moving here, I have become more of a sushi snob. And I don't go to any of the all you can eat places, for whatever reason. I can't even say that they're back, because I haven't really tried. - No, I know, I mean, you don't want to go somewhere pretty raunchy, you know what I mean? Like, gotta be careful. - Especially here. - Yeah. - I'm going for sushi tonight. - You are. - And it turns into like a full-blown conversation of like, which restaurant? No, that place isn't good enough. - Yeah. - Like, I like this here. - Oh, 100%. And the funny thing is like, the high end places are really good in Vancouver, obviously. There's some that are probably a little overrated, but then there are some like hole in the wall places that are like incredible. - Yeah. Oh, you can find some great ones, yeah. - If you know, you know. - If you know, you know, yeah. - Speaking of food, this one from me, the cheese chills that everyone gets. - The what? - The cheese chills. - What is a cheese chills? - So, okay. The other day. - Is this the dish I haven't heard about? - Yeah. - Like, the chilled cheese. - The chilled cheese. - Is ice cream? Like cheese ice cream? - So the other day, and I want some help from the text box on this. The other day I was eating cheese in studio. Like a chunk of cheese, like I had meats and crackers and whatever. And whenever I have like chunks of cheese, I get like a chill or tingle in my face. And I thought. - Cheese chills. - Yeah, I thought everyone got it. And then I looked over to Ben and I was like, do you get this when you have like chunks of cheese? And he was like, no, what are you talking about? - I was shocked. I'm like, you are allergic. - And then I went down this rabbit hole of like, do people get this? And all the replies were like, no, you're just allergic to cheese. So I want the text 650, 650. Dumbbar lumber text on it. Tell me if other people feel this or if I'm just allergic. - So like you've asked everybody at the station, everybody in this building, they've all said, no. And you still want like the masses to confirm this? - I mean, we have the access to the masses. - All right. Do you get cheese chills? When you eat cheese, do you get a chill in your body? - Just in your face. - In your face. - For a few seconds. - In the face. - In the face. - Josh, you're allergic to cheese. - I'm not gonna stop eating it. It's fine. - You might wanna like keep an epi pen around. - I don't know. It's okay. That's why he's got me. I got the epi pen always. - Yeah. And he'll need cheese on bends around. - You asked for reaction and here is reaction. That's called indigestion one person. - Justin Willoughby. - Just you, bro. - Here's another one. That's allergy. - Yeah. Fair enough. - The cheese chills. - Cheese chills. And it's like, it's not like I ate too much cheese. It's like from the first chunk of cheese is when it starts. Anyway, next one. We'll end with this one, Chef Swagger. Temperatures above 30 degrees, overrated or underrated. - Look, I absolutely love warm weather. - Yeah? - I will take it every day of the week, twice on Sunday. Give me 30 degrees over eight and rain all the time. 30 is really hot. - I understand. - Wait, you like 30 degrees? - I do. You're insane. - I love it. - So you don't want to be on the golf course? - Great. - Less people on the golf course. I'm out there sunscreen. Put a hat on. Get your shades on. Fantastic. - 30 degrees, you know. 30 degrees isn't even fun, man. - It's just too hot. - Yeah, it's way hot. - I thrive in a 22, 23 degree. - Yeah, like that's my zone. - Like 23 might be like the perfect temperature. - Yeah, man. - That's great. - You guys are incredibly soft. - You get over 25 and I'm like, campy outside for that one. - Once I get above 25, I need pool access. - Yeah. (laughing) - Pool access, lake access, something. - I need something to cool off it. - And then once you get to 30, it's almost like that's when you have to stay inside more because it's too hot. - When it gets to that temperature, I'm like, I'd rather just sit at home and have AC. Like I'm sitting here chilling. - Speaking of AC, I did have to pull the trigger. - You did? - On an air condition. - Oh, very good. - I know it gets it for so long. - You know what, it's time. - Was there lots available? - There's tons. - Yeah, so the water on sale right now, actually, as well. - I mean, after the heat dome thing happened a couple years ago, all of the department stores are well stocked. They make sure not to run out. But yeah, I have like one of those like windows that pushes out, though. So it makes it very difficult to-- - Oh, yeah. So what do you do? - Have the portable air conditioner. - I think build like a contraption. - I tried to build a contraption last night. It did not look great. It did not work out all that well. And so I've purchased something on Amazon. It's like a jacket you put through the window. - I've got this. I've got this on both of them. - And a jacket, yeah. - It works. - Wait, on the outsider inside? Like how do you do it? - You put it like, it's like you Velcro it to your, the inside of your window and then the part that goes out to. And then you just put it on and zip it up and it works. - Interesting. - So the annoying thing is your window is always open. - So you hear the noise? - So you hear the noise and like people can hear you, but it is what it is. - Well, it's better than not having air conditioning. (laughing) - 100%. I always viewed like air conditioner in Vancouver as like winter tires. You know, if, hey, if you're driving a lot through the winter and absolutely get some winter tires. If you're going up in the mountains, you need the winter tires. It's the law. But like, for the amount that it snows, I don't really need winter tires for the amount that I drive in the winter. I'm not going up to Whistler in the middle of winter. So I don't really need it. I've always viewed the air conditioner very similarly. Like for that, those few weekends in July and August that you really need the air conditioner, sure. But otherwise, you don't really need it. - The life you're about to live through. - It's different, honestly. Those weekends have happened a lot more frequently in the last couple of years though. - The heat waves are much worse in the last couple of years than they were when I first arrived in Vancouver. - I do think though, like having AC and like staying cool all the time makes me softer to be out in hot weather now. It's like at home, like I always keep it at like 20 degrees, sometimes even 19. So it's like an ice box at my place all the time. - Then you get your bill at the end of the month. You're like, "Oof, man, it was a lot of ACI." - It's fine. - It's worth it. - It's not so bad. - Actually, it's not at all. - Yeah. - Need to cool it down. - I don't know. - Try cheese. - You know what? Okay, you know what, there is one of us. - There's one more of us. - There is one of us, Rick and Langley. I totally get the cheese chills. I thought it was the only one. - I'm saying. - It's a, well, I don't know if it's a normal thing. - Something about you guys in the valley, hey. - I mean, you know, most people say it's allergies. Like this one here says the cheese chills. My daughter has the same thing with Kiwi. She's allergic. - I mean, oh, well. - She's allergic. - I want my whole life, just thinking everybody had this. My bad. - I would prefer cheese chills compared to being lactose. Hey, aren't all humans some level of lactose, isn't that the thing now? - To some extent, if you're not built different. - Some are more than others. - Josh is like bite cereal every day. - Yeah, I was saying, so when I was talking Ben about this, I was like, dude, I can't have a dairy allergy because I have cereal every day. I have like a lot of milk. - Yeah, but you have cereal every day. - Yeah, every single day. - Every single day for me. - Like what kind of cereal? - Vector, usually. - Wow. - Got some protein. - Protein, protein vector. I was expecting you to see like fruit loops or something. - No. I mean, sometimes I wanted him to say that. - Treat myself. - Treat myself. - Frosted flakes. - Lucky charm. - Who doesn't get a golden grams craving every now and again? - I will say, like I wasn't huge on cereal as a kid. I used to like cereal if I could put like banana or like fruit into it. That's like one of the things I liked about cereal. - Yeah. - But every once in a while, I love the lucky charms. - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. - I'm more of a- - I'm full of sugar, but- - If I'm going for the sugar ones, it's Reese's Puffs. Those are the go-to. - My favorite thing is people being like, I'm eating healthy now. Watch me eat this full bowl of granola to start the day. It's like, do you realize how much calories are in that? Anyways. All right, Dan Racho Satyarsha. It is Canucks Central. That was Overrated Underrated on Sports at 650. - Hey, it's Mike Alford and Jason Bruff. Join us for Alford and Bruff in the morning weekdays for 6 to 9 a.m. on Sports then 650. - Or on demand anytime through your favorite podcast app.