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Draft Central Part 2 + Iain MacIntyre on Free Agency

Dan and Sat are joined by Sportsnet's Triple Threat, Iain MacIntyre, to discuss what the Canucks have done in the last few days to prepare for free agency. The guys also take you through the remaining picks in the 1st round of the draft.

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1h 37m
Broadcast on:
29 Jun 2024
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mp3

Dan and Sat are joined by Sportsnet's Triple Threat, Iain MacIntyre, to discuss what the Canucks have done in the last few days to prepare for free agency. The guys also take you through the remaining picks in the 1st round of the draft.

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(upbeat music) - With a 15th overall pick, the Detroit Red Wings are proud to present from Mora of Hawke, Gal, Stan's Gun, Michael Brandt, Segnigarn. - That is Nicholas Lidstrom, I think you might have heard of him before. - Not bad. - Vice President of Hawke Ops with the Detroit Red Wings, announcing their first pick in this year's NHL entry draft, and they select the first Norwegian to go in the first round of the draft, Michael Brandt's Egg Neaguar. - Yeah, and Steve and Solberg is the other Norwegian player, two of them who could go in the top 20 here, which would be Mementis for Norwegian hockey. And I know I had some people kind of joking with me and say if Nygaard and Solberg were not Norwegian, they probably would have gone higher if they've came from traditional hockey countries, that's how talented they are. But how about this Norwegian Renaissance and hockey? You seeing it in hockey, seeing it in soccer? - Renaissance, it never started. - Yeah, I guess it was starting as a new one. But I mean, in soccer too, look at soccer, like the types of players that are coming out of Norway all of a sudden. - Some guy named Erling Holland, who looks like a Bond villain. - But even now, they have some players coming up all of a sudden. - Yeah, so Michael Brandt's Egg Neaguar goes to the Detroit Red Wings as the 16th overall selection, or sorry, 15th overall selection. In this year's draft, St. Louis Blues are next on the clock. We'll keep bringing you every pick of the draft, but we're also gonna welcome in our friend, the Triple Threat Ian McIntyre to the conversation as this insider is brought to you by Avenue Machinery and Douglas Lake Equipment. Thanks for this. I'm Zach, how are you? - I'm doing well. Now, please fill me in on Nygaard. - First Norwegian taken in the first round of the NHL entry draft. - That part I know. - Oh, yeah. - We have no idea what kind of player he is, so. - He's a winger. - Neither do I. - Yeah, he's a winger, so. - Yeah. - He's a really good prospect, he's a really good prospect. - He's good enough to be a first round pick in the NHL. He must be talented. - I do enjoy, I have to say, like I covered a lot of drafts in my career, none since I moved to sports net. I covered a lot of drafts for the Vancouver Sun. And it's far more enjoyable to watch it in my living room. Because you know what you miss? And I don't just mean that because I'm lazy. And I certainly haven't been lazy with all the Canucks I've done the last few days. But you know what you miss being out the draft? You miss those family moments, like the parents crying and the sometimes awkward hugs among the siblings who are used to punching each other. And then just how, you get a sense sometimes just how young these kids are. Like they're walking up on stage. Some of them aren't even 18 yet. And they're going in, you know, meeting icons from franchises who are on the stage waiting for them and putting on a NHL jersey for the first time in their life. It's incredible. It's incredible for families and what it represents for the journeys whether you're Neigard or whether you're, you know, Macklin Selabrini who's dad Rick is a friend and played soccer with my brother Gordon at UBC. So small world, but it's a great night for hockey and it really is a celebration of a journey for a lot of families. - Yeah, and you know, the Canucks of course don't have a first round pick, but they've been very active as you mentioned, assigning players and trying to figure out their own free agent situation. But the big thing we're also looking at now, especially with the news that Zadorov is going to free agency is can they land Jake Genssel? And is that a player that can truly become a Vancouver Canucks on July 1st or perhaps even earlier trading for his rights? What do you make of the Genssel situation? And do you think the Canucks do legitimately have a chance to land him here by July 1st? - Well, I think, I think they've had their eye on them a long time. And yeah, absolutely, they legitimately can land him, especially if they're willing to pay more money than anybody else. And that's, you know, that's always the question with these, especially the elite free agents is, yeah, you want them, but you know, how much are you willing to pay? And how long are you willing to pay for it? And Jake Genssel, the top free agent available, well, maybe Sam Reinhardt, right? But who knows? But when you're talking to those guys, I mean, it's seven years and a big number under it. And with Genssel, it's, you know, people are saying eight and a half, nine million. I think it could be north of that. So yes, I would think you would, I think one thing that all being said today, and I'm sure we'll get into more of the things he said, but when he talks about Vancouver being a place that players want to come, I truly believe that with, and it's not just that the team is, appears to kind of be in an ascendant phase, like it's, it had a breakthrough last year, but it's the coaching staff. It's the young players, a chance if you're Genssel to hear, can you come and play with Elias Pederson? Well, that's a pretty good job. And if you're not Canadian averse, Vancouver is a pretty darn nice place to live as well. And you have a chance to win this down the cup. There's a lot of things. A lot of things players would like about coming here, but in bottom line is you still have to have a bottom line that's going to attract them. Now the Canucks, they have the resources available. You know, it's always this salary cap twister to try to get all the pieces you need and still be under the cap, but for the first time in a long time, they actually have a lot of flexibility, a lot of cap space in that way. The McCabe offload on Wednesday was absolutely brilliant. They were able to get that done and give themselves another 4 million of spending space. And now it's, you know, depending on how you wanna do it in LTIR consideration stuff, you know, about 14 and a half million according to cap friendly. And of course you can go over that too. I mean, you don't have to be compliant in July have to be compliant for when the season begins. So yeah, I think there's a very real possibility. It's up against law. I think a lot of teams are going to be backing up armored trucks to his garage on Monday and offering to let him take what he wants out of the back, but he still has to want to come and play for you. But in answer to your question, Sat, yes. And I would say this, if they don't get gensil, I think they're gonna be hard after some other players, you know, whether it's Tifoli, whether it's Marsha or so, whether it's both. I think there's gonna be some impactful players and I say that plural, 'cause I think they're gonna go find a pretty good defenseman as well, or a second forward. And maybe all three, they may get two forwards and a defenseman with their war chest on Monday, but one way or another, I think there's impactful player or players coming to Vancouver and free agency. - Well, and the work they did this week sort of sets them up for that to focus on the free agent market. It's probably why they've called it quits on Nikita Zadorov and are letting him go and walk to free agency, but you know, they get the Myers deal done. They get Blueger done, they get Joshua done, they made that McCabe trade as you mentioned, and you know, all of those deals came in lower than what, each one of those players could have gotten on the open market. Is it going to be the same for a guy like Jake Gensl or a Tifoli or somebody like that? Probably not, but those guys are free agents hitting the open market. So it's a little bit of a different equation. The point I'm making here though is, like the Canucks have very specific needs now that they have to fill out now that they've sort of done their internal work to set the roster up for, okay, how do we go out and improve now that we've got this group coming back? - Yeah, and I think they've had a pretty clear idea from the time the season ended. In fact, Albin did express to us in his press conference, you know, the need for a top six winger, something they were unable to get at the deadline and you wonder, you'd look at a seven game series against Edmonton, you lose by a goal in game seven, would that have made the difference? Of course, it didn't have Brock Besser either in that game, but would that have made the difference? Had they been able to get another top six scorer? Had they been able to get, say, a Tyler Tifoli at the deadline? So that's one need. Now, clearly, there's a need for another defenseman now that Zadorov is not coming back. I don't think you can go in principle with a third pair of Julesin and Friedman. So you want another experienced NHL player. It doesn't have to be a five million dollar guy. It doesn't have to be another Nikita Zadorov and that's actually part of the risk of them letting them walk 'cause frankly, there aren't other Nikita Zadorovs. There's no other 6.6, 250 pound guys who move like he does and just showed that he can elevate in big moments. But he was still going to be and all the inquiry kind of made this point today. He was still going to be a third pairing defenseman for Vancouver because they, as he said, Rick Talkett, prioritized the top four and the top four, the second pair is Sussi and Tyler Myers. So I think they'll go and get a third pairing defenseman and then depending on who they get as that marquee top six four, they may have money left over to get another pretty good winger. If they can get two wingers, I think they will. And I think it's a choice. In fact, I know it's a choice they'll be making when they're looking at what gets all costs or there's speculation maybe they make a bid for Reinhardt and I just mentioned Tofoli and Marsha. So you can see what those guys' prices are going to be and right away because there's so many teams after them. The agent is going to be able to tell you. It's going to be no mystery or waiting around to find out. You're going to know right away what it's going to cost and are you in or are you out? And if they decide that the cost is higher than they want to pay for that one player, you can invest it in two players. Like if you're talking about nine and a half million on Jake Genssel alone and you're not going to get Genssel, well, you could probably still get two pretty good players for whatever, six million and three and a half million to help your team. So I think that's another thing they'll be looking at but certainly if they can, they'll be trying to land more than just the one marquee forward and another defenseman. - Well, you mentioned on Zadorov and what Alveen said and I think Alveen said they made a really strong effort with Zadorov and we don't know exactly what they offered but I wouldn't be surprised that what offer they made to Zadorov was competitive. Like I don't think they just kind of made, hey, here's a three million dollar per year offer or something like that and just to make it seem like they made a good offer. I think, as we've heard, they weren't too far apart so I think they probably, they stretched themselves to the limit, I think, was Zadorov and it just simply came down to him probably wanting north of five million. - Yeah, I mean, well, one of the things I heard and this was before Milstein dunked on Twitter for mischaracterizing, for mischaracterizing that there'd been traction negotiation and that was a mischaracterization. That's not what occurred. But what I was told by someone who speaks regularly to Nikita Zadorov is that I don't know what the numbers were but on term, they weren't far away and this is like soon after the season ended. So I know from having spoken with Nikita, he was looking for at least six years and maybe the Canucks got four or five, who knows? - In the end, I think probably you're right, Zad. I don't think this was like a token effort, a PR move to save face, like, okay, we're pretending to try to sign them but we're really not interested. I think they did, I think you're right. I think they generally made what they thought and what all being described today as their best effort to get them back and it didn't work out. And, you know, that happens in hockey and the players are entirely within their rights as an unrestricted free agent to go where you wanna go and play for whatever you can get. And, you know, Nikita, because of his skill set and especially because of how he performed in the playoffs, you know, he's in demand. I think Nashville is one of the teams that would really be interested in him on Monday and that's partly because of how he played against the Nashville Predators in the first round. So, you know, that's entirely his prerogative. I like Nikita and I respect his right to choose but now you have to move on. And, you know, one thing about the Canucks and I think, you know, all teams, you never back yourself into a position where there's no options and they will already have other scenarios mapped out for who they think they can get and at what price and, you know, fill that gap. But right now, to me, it literally and figuratively is a big gap. You know, Zadora was a very impactful player and he's not easily going to be replaced. It's easy to replace him with somebody cheaper but it's not easy just to replace what he offered this team. - As it stands, you know, the Canucks aren't going to retain any of their rental acquisitions, I guess. Nikita Zadora or Elastlyn Holm, even unlikely Casey to Smith and Sam Lafferty, obviously has been traded as part of that. That Eli McCay, I've deal with Chicago now, not that it's necessarily a bad thing. I mean, you're a contending team now. Those things are going to happen but they did spend a lot of draft capital to bring this team to where it got to this year. And I think that leaves them in a spot here where they have to be aggressive in free agency, I-Mac, because they don't have a ton of trade assets to make a move, like, you know, going to get a Martin H-ass to add to this team. It feels like they're almost forced more into the free agent market that way. - Yeah, I think that's accurate. But I think, you know, the one really good trade ship they had had they been willing to activate it was Philip Ronik. But we saw that they came together on an agreement. The Canucks in that one came higher than, you know, a lot of the slot they would to get to seven and a quarter million for your number two defensemen. But once Ronik was resigned, you're right. The Canucks don't have pieces, especially if their ideology hasn't changed since the deadline. There's lots of trades they could make if they're willing to give up Lakerimaki or Tom Villander and maybe to a lesser extent EP2. But they weren't willing to sacrifice any of those guys at the deadline because they have so few really good prospects. And I imagine they're still not willing to sacrifice them now. So yes, it kind of forces their hand a little bit as far as building their team or trying to fill out the team through free agency. But let's, you know, acknowledge as well the Canucks knew they were going to have a pretty good bag of money available on July 1st. And that if they need to go that route, there's pretty good chance they can be successful. So I don't think, you know, I don't think they're surprised. I don't think they're cornered in any way. I think this has probably gone to plan. As I said, my sports net story, it felt like Zadorov was the overunder for their free agents, right? It was always unlikely that they're going to be able to have Lindholm back just because of what he can command and where he would fit on the Canucks. It felt like Zadorov and Dakota Joshua were these two guys, middle of the lineup players, but significant middle of the lineup players and not outrageously expensive, but certainly not cheap. And are you willing in Dakota Joshua's case to commit term when it was only one year where he's looked like he looked this past season. And are you willing in Nakeeta Zadorov's case when he's 29 to sign a guy until he's 35 or 36, especially when as good as he was for them, he was still, you know, by definition, a third pairing guy. Well, they got one of the two. You know, they took certainly the lesser risk in just committing four years and three and a quarter per for Dakota Joshua, then what they would have had to commit to Nakeeta Zadorov, but they got one of those two and you know, that felt like kind of the threshold. If they could have gotten them both, I think people would be cheering. Like it would have been a big victory for the Canucks ahead of July 1st. They didn't, but they got one and they got some other key guys done. They got, you know, Tyler Myers was important. Teddy Blueger was important. Philip Rolnick was kind of, you know, a statement signing. Like what, this is what we're going to be in the future. You know, when you're signing a guy for eight years and 58 million. So I think, I think they did pretty well overall with their own free agents. And now they have to do pretty well in free agency on Monday. - I'm Aqwe, we appreciate the time as always. Thanks for this. Nice being on with you guys. I'll go back to watching the draft. - There he is. The triple threat Ian McIntyre always bringing great insights here on the show. This insider was brought to you by Avony Machinery and Douglas Lake. Equipment be a champion on the work side. Find them together online at dleamc.com. We do have the Vegas cold tonight stepping up to the podium right now, Seth. But we did see a couple of picks go through while we were discussing the Canucks with iMac. - Yeah, Detroit picked Michael Brancic Nygaard, the Norwegian kid, Adam Eurechek, David Eurechek's brother, right-hand defenseman is drafted by St. Louis a year after his brother was drafted a couple of years after. Tariq Parasek, the Czech goal scorer, gets picked 17th overall by the Washington Capitals, talented player. And Sasha Boyver goes to the Chicago Blackhawks at number 18, six foot two Canadian center who played out of the USHL this past season. And the reaction on his face was priceless, surprised he was taken there and in really happy, great embrace with his father. So that is the latest in the Vegas cold the nights at 19th overall have just taken Trevor Connolly, a swing on upside with question marks on and off the ice for this player. - Yeah, but very fast player, a lot of pace to his game, very talented can score a lot of goals. And you're right, if it wasn't for some of the questions, he probably goals a bit higher. So I'm not surprised Vegas is taking a chance on a kid like this and a 19th overall, like you really can't go wrong. He's a guy that some had kind of in that 12, 13 range. A lot of people had him as a top 15 pick. So I'm sure Vegas is excited and elated to be picking on 19. - There is a lot about Trevor Connolly that pushed him down in the draft, said people asking a lot more questions, some things that happened off the ice as well. So that's why a player who some had said some of his scouting reports would say, he's on top 10 talent in the draft. He may be even pushing the top five of talent as far as players are concerned in this draft, but had some questions about his decision making on the ice. So that had people questioning his hockey sense. And of course, some of the decisions he made off the ice as well in his younger days. So 19th, that's the Vegas Golden Knights selection. They take Trevor Connolly and add him to their prospect pool, which means he'll likely get traded within the next two years, right? - Probably, I mean Vegas kept any of their first round picks. They've only kept Prasan, that's the only one. - Madora Fayev, was he, I don't think he was a first round. - Was he, he was a second round pick? - Oh, you're right, maybe not a first round pick. - He was a decent draft pick. - I think they've traded looking it up for a straight round. - Everybody. - He was taken in round three. - Round three. - They've traded, as far as I'm like, they've traded every one of their first round picks, except for Brandon Prasan. - Yeah. - Pretty incredible. - Yeah, and Prasan's getting traded too, just wait. Just wait, just wait, it's gonna happen. - The right player hasn't come up for them yet. - If past history is any indication, it is getting traded. And we know, going back to what I'm back was talking about, he mentioned a name that we've discussed as an option, but much like Reinhardt, there's been this sense that he's going to ultimately end up on a stay with his team, and it's a team we just discussed to Vegas Goldenites. Shout out to Marsha so. - Yeah. - And as much as there was some talk of him maybe re-upping with Vegas, it's getting pretty late now too there. Is he making it to market? And if you're not signing Jake Genssel, is he a player that makes sense? Like he kind of fits into that same Tofoli, Stamco's mold, right-handed player, not a lefty, but he can score a lot of goals. He's a little bit younger than Stamco's, but he's one of your older than Tofoli. But he's just scored 42 goals this past year. He has won a cost to my trophy, not as big player, but I thought he was an interesting name that I'm Mac brought up. - Well, if you don't get, like the thing about March or so, he's still gonna cost seven plus million dollars, I would say. - I mean, the reality of trying to get a top-end guy in this market is gonna be, if you get sticker shock trying to pay to fully four, five million, I mean, it's gonna be more, right? - But you'd still wanna go out, like if you're going to get March or so, you'd still wanna go out and get a left shot winger probably as well to add to the group. - Yeah, well, you'd still have a little left over. - Yeah, you'd still have, like there would be a bit of a drop-off, like probably about two million, I would say. Who knows? - Well, it really depends. - On ballparking Genssel around nine and March or so around seven, that's where my head is at. - And you're not wrong, so that's 2.5. The question is how much are you saving on the defenseman? Because the Canucks need to sign three players right now. - Yeah, and we're banking in a backup, making 950K just for accounting purposes here. So the Canucks need two forwards and one more defenseman. And that's a 22-man roster, not a 23-man roster, right? So you still need to sign three more players. If you do March or so at seven, and you do another forward at, say, three million, you can do a defenseman at four and a half, right? Like, or you do a forward at four, and a defenseman at three and a half four. Like, there is a way for you to get pretty close to getting three players making, you know, one making six to seven and two making four. - Yeah. - And that's, you know, you can get two pretty good wingers. You can get a pretty good left-hand shot. You're not bringing up a guy like Zucker, for instance. You probably get him cheaper than four. Are there other left-handed guys there that you get on a short-term deal? So you get March or so, then you find another left-handed guy as well. Like, there is a pathway here that if you don't get Genssel, you can still come away with some pretty talented players. - That's what the Canucks could be cooking up here as free agency approaches. The New York Islanders are the next team on the clock. They've got the 20th overall selection, so we will keep an eye on that as the draft continues as well. This is an important message on behalf of Canadian blood services. Hospital demand for blood products was stable for nearly a decade, but is now rising quickly. As the population of Canada grows and ages, there's been an increase in surgeries and treatments that require blood and plasma. The need is constant. Donors are needed now to ensure hospitals remain stocked with life essentials throughout the summer. Please book an appointment today. You could make all the difference to a patient and their family. Book now at blood.ca on the Give Blood app, or by calling 1-888 to donate. The draft continues on Sportsnet 650. - Hey, it's Big Nizar. Have your say and join me on The People's Show with big takes and even bigger bets. - Weekdays, three to four on Sportsnet 650, or wherever you get your podcast. (dramatic music) - The New York Islanders are proud to select Cole Iserman. - Cole, don't call me Steve Iserman is now a New York Islander. - The Lamarello making his latest selection in 20th overall as the NHL draft rolls on. It is the Montreal Canadiens now at the podium. Let's go to it. - Oh, hey. - And we just missed it. - It's all right. - No, slow on that one. - A little slow. - We missed it. - We missed that one. - It's okay. - Who was it? - It was a quick transition there. - Michael Hage. - Hage or Hage? - Hage. - Oh, they said Hage. - They said Hage. - Did he say it in like a French accent? - Michael Hage. - It would be Hage. - Hage. - Would it be? - I don't know. Is there an axonte goo or no? - I don't know. Axonte goo. Look at this guy. - I think he's American, guys. - linguist, all of a sudden. - You don't speak French. - You don't speak French? - Parle vous fronces. - No, no, no, no. - You don't like three phrases. - Je m'apelle d'Annion. - Yeah exactly. - Parle vous fronces. - Yeah. - Donde esta. No, that's Spanish. - Donde esta, donde esta. Banyo, where's the washroom? We all know that one, okay? We all know that one from Mexico. (laughing) - Quier le bibliotec. - Where's the bible? Library? - Yes. - What are bibliotec's washroom? - Yes, yeah. - No, bibliotec is. - Bibliotec's library. - Bibliotec's library, yeah. - I thought so, I thought, yeah. - I mean, trust, I know Swedish, Farsi, and English and a smattering. Like, I might know more Spanish than you know French, and I don't know a lot of Spanish. - Yeah. (laughing) - I'm gonna do better with my French over the course of the summer. Michael Hage to the latest pick in the NHL entry draft of the Montreal Canadiens, they moved up today to this 21st overall selection to this 21st overall position. They moved up with the LA Kings who moved down to 26. So Montreal moves up and they make their second selection of the first round with this pick here in Michael Hage, center out of the Chicago Steel in the US, HL, and Montreal been busy here in the draft, obviously, making their second selection. Their first was at 5th overall, where they got the home run pick of Ivan Demadov out of the KHL. So the Montreal Canadiens rebuild ongoing with a couple of nice prospects added to the mix. - Yeah, and I mean, and Hage, when you look at his scouting report and how people feel about it, some people do feel like he does have a high ceiling and they are getting a guy that, if you wanna talk yourself into, as a Habs fan, that you gotta steal it with Demadov at five, you can talk yourself into getting a guy like Demadov at number 21, who could also be a player that punches above his weight in this draft class. - Good skater and transition to the puck very well as a center, so we'll see how this pick pans out for Montreal, but maybe one of the more interesting picks came at number 20 with the New York Islanders. And we talked a little bit about Cole Eiserman. A lot of people had him in sort of the 10 range and he falls down to 20 to the New York Islanders. This is a guy who scored more than a goal per game with the US National Development Team Program and is, look, is he a perfect fit for the New York Islanders and their needs? I mean, they need a score now today, so I don't think Cole Eiserman fills that role for the team next season, but never a bad thing to add a score with the profile of Cole Eiserman and the shot that he's got. - Yeah, and I mean, he's a player that did divide some opinion over this process here, leading up to the draft, but there's no denying that he has one of the best shots in this draft class, if not the best shot. And when you have that type of talent, I think it's impossible not to be intrigued by it. It's just, is the overall package good enough that he can project to be a consistent top six player? I think that's gonna be the question around Cole Eiserman more than anything else. And this is the biggest thing with a lot of these guys. They're all super talented. All these guys have so much ability, but we know in the National Hockey League, you have to do more than just score. - Yeah. - You have to be able to play proper hockey, especially come the postseason, but even in regular season, understanding how to play within systems, responsibilities, if you don't do those things, like you're not gonna have an NHL career, like you have to be Brett Hall, where you're scoring literally 50 goals every year, and it doesn't matter what else you do, because that's how prolific you are as a goal scorer. And generally speaking, as good as these guys are, they're not that talented that they can just skate by their goal scoring. And that's gonna be the question where the guy like Cole Eiserman, and probably the reason he didn't go high, it's he can shoot the puck well, but how likely is he to hit? - Yeah, it's sort of the equivalent to, I guess, a guy who could hit 25 home runs in the Major League's of Baseball, but only get on base at a 270 clip. It's like, okay, we like the 25 homers, but like, man, we need you to get on baseball. - Yeah, exactly. Like you need to be a functional player. It's kind of like, it's like Dalton Varsho, for instance. - Yeah. - He can hit 30 home runs. - Yeah. - But if his OPS is like 670, like-- - You're not a great hitter, but you're a great defender, so you're in the lineup every day. - Right, yeah, and it's like, yeah, you can hit home runs. - Yeah. - But your overall batting profile is negative, because you're not doing all the other things they need to do, right? - Yes. - And that's kind of where you're at with him, too. And not that you're there, just some of the hesitancy around why he hasn't gone high. Now, there's a world where eyes are in, figures it out. You're talking about a massive steal, right? - That is what, certainly the New York Islanders are hoping for. Lula Amarillo, I've never seen him with such a big smile on the stage. - Yeah. - They're at the draft. - Like I said, when a guy can shoot the puck the way he does, there will be people in this draft class that will view him and did view him as a top-time prospect. - Yeah, he is, well, he's ranked pretty well. By a lot of the boards, we'll see what happens with Cole Eisman, who is one of the biggest droppers in today's draft, going to 20, to the New York Islanders. The Nashville Predators are the next team on the clock. All right, so a couple of things that I just wanted to discuss with you here, Sad as we have a little bit of a break in between picks. - Am I in trouble? - No, Martin H.S., an update from Pierre Le Brun after the first 15 picks went through, unlikely to get traded tonight. The trades that the Hurricanes were discussing, as we sort of mentioned, as those picks were going through, Buffalo, maybe New Jersey were mentioned as teams in on H.S. - Wait for it, this is my shocked voice. - Not getting traded tonight. - So stunned. - Yes. - Never been more stunned at the Carolina Hurricanes. They didn't pull the trigger on a trade. They're rumored to do. - Yeah, never. - I'm not sure what they're waiting for. Still unsure what they're waiting for on Jake Genssel as well. - But yes is what they're waiting for. He's not sending it. He's leaving them all red right now. - Something's going on. With all the reporting there was today on Carolina coming up to Jake Genssel's number, and you still don't have a signing, something is up. We'll discuss more of that. But here, the pick, Barry Trotts at the podium. First of all, I'd like to give a shout out to the great fans in Smashville watching today. Secondary, we have a retiring Scotting Glen Sanders, and I want to thank him for his 20 years of dedication and loyalty. One of the best scouts you'll ever meet. To make our pick, thank you. To make our pick, Assistant General Manager, Jeff Kelti. (crowd cheering) - Smashville Predators, like from Yaroslav, Locomotive, Yegor, Seren. - All right, so Nashville going overseas to make their selection at a 20 second overall. We are now just with 10 picks remaining here in the first round. Yegor Seren to the Nashville Predators here, and that is the latest pick off the board as we get to the final third of the NHL Entry Draft. So that Seren is way off the board at local Yaroslavo. Some boards had him outside of the top two rounds, so you have Barry Trotts digging deep here into the board. - I love these picks. - Yes. - Everybody, all the draft people are like, what the hell, horrible draft pick? And oftentimes it ends up being true, 'cause it's so off the board it doesn't end up being good. I hope it works out, 'cause I wanna see all these kids have success, and the thing I feel bad about when it comes to guys like this, Yegor Seren didn't ask to be draft a 20 second overall. - No, he did not, he's very happy that he is. - He's delighted, he's delighted. But it's not his fault to be, so if you're galaxy braining these picks, like you put a lot of pressure on the kid as well, right? - Why is it always a guy named Yegor as well? (laughing) - It's happened with Shinnikov, like I will never, ever forget that draft moment. - What was Mark Medulin's first name? - Yeah. - Was it also Yegor? (laughing) No, it was Shakira, Shakira Medulin. - Shakira Medulin, but Yegor Shinnikov, a couple of years ago, and Mike Fuda was like, I don't know anything about this kid. - I have no idea. Well, and then when Mark Medulin was taken, it wasn't a Sam Costing, it was like, you know what, I didn't even watch the guy. - Didn't have a wrist. So, Yegor Seren to the Nashville Predators at number 22, overall, as they make a pick that's a little bit off the board, and we'll see what happened, but he's got a great size to him, left shot, big forward, got some skill about him. All right, Dan Reicho, Satyarsha. So, mention Jake Genssel, still up in the air, question marks all over the place. One of the things that was also reported today in the ongoing saga of John Marino, and the devil's potentially making a play for Brett Peshin, free agency, is John Marino going to become available, and the Canucks were linked as a team that could be interested once again in John Marino. - Yeah, so this one makes sense. We've discussed John Marino as well. - Hockey fit makes sense. - Yes, and I know that we've looked at Vancouver in the past, making a bid for Marino when he was available two years ago, when Pittsburgh traded him to the New Jersey Devils. The question though is, what is New Jersey looking for in return? - Yeah. - If it's a third round pick or less, and they're just trying to get off the money, then I think that's something you can easily explore. If you have to give up something like Hoaglander, are you willing to do that? That's the question I have. What's the price of acquisition for Marino? I'm interested, but I'm also not willing to pay too much. I don't mind the 4.4 million cap hit, but I don't know if I feel good about the 4.4 million cap hit if you have to sign Genssel to 9.5. - Right. - So I would imagine, unless there's some level of retention, this trade would make more sense once the Canucks know how much they're committing to their forwards, whether that's Genssel or not. 'Cause it gets tight, right? Like if you give Genssel 9.5 and him 4.5, all of a sudden you only have a 1.5 million left. You only have 500,000 left. You can't even fill out 22 players. So that's where, you know, I'm kind of wondering on, is the number even going to be right if you're trying to land Genssel and trying to add somebody else too? - Per Frank Serra Valley, we have some developing news to the, with the Maple Leafs pick at number 23 overall. Sounds as though they are trading down with the Anaheim Ducks who own the 31st overall selection pick they got in the Adam Henrik trade at the deadline in Anaheim, moving up to 23 to take the Maple Leafs pick. So Brad Tra living who held onto his first round pick at the trade deadline for dear life is now moving in anyways. But I guess he's staying in the first round. So I just say it in jests. I kid, I kid. But yes, looks as though the Maple Leafs and Anaheim Ducks working out a trade. They're not getting John Gibson. I think in this one it's just a draft pick move for the Ducks who want to move up to 23 here to get somebody as they've been an interesting team tonight with Beckett Seneca going to them at number three. One of the first reaches on the board depending on how you rate the player. But for most, he was not considered to be a top five pick. Beckett Seneca now Anaheim moving up from 31 to 23 with the Maple Leafs. Yeah, and I guess we want to go to the trade. Well, we'll see when the Ducks get up there here is Gary Bettman at the podium. Number 23 in this year's draft to Anaheim in exchange for picks 31 and 58 both in this year's draft as well, Toronto 23 to Anaheim for 31 and 58. Anaheim, you're on the clock. So the only draft day trades we've seen are strictly pick involved. We saw Montreal and LA swing a deal earlier today. And then on the draft floor, Minnesota moved up with Philadelphia from 13 to 12. And now Anaheim moving up from 31 to 23. Yeah, so gone are the days of players being traded on draft day. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's just the draft picks now in nature. It's not going anywhere boring. Boring, you know what Carolina Hurricanes. So that's least favorite team in the National Hockey League. If they actually keep getting so like, I'd be so mad. I'd be so mad. But we'll see what happens. That's why Genssel doesn't want to stay. Man, you guys are so boring. You're so boring. Rod Brindenmore wants me to score like 22 goals a year. And that's it. That's it, 22, that's it. Hey, you're skating too hard holding onto the puck too long, dump it in. Stop trying to score. We're supposed to win 2-1. Rush chances? Not going to happen here. No, they get-- I mean, they're a good talk hockey team. They finally-- they are. And the trade down, I mean, for Toronto, they get a second round pick to go down eight spots. For a team that's kind of bereft of draft picks, it kind of makes sense. And if you feel like the top guys are gone, you know, why wouldn't you? As we say, a lot of times when it comes to the draft, you get to a point around the end of round one and beginning of round two, where the tier is kind of the same. Yeah. And then every, like, team's boards will like range wildly on how they're rating players. So that's a little bit of probably of what's going on here. And it's the old Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, sort of mindset. Trade down, get a couple of extra dart throws when you get to this point of the draft. Yeah, and, you know, Anaheim's about to walk up to the podium or so I'll pass it off to you real quick. But I wonder who they're going to take. And if they feel like there's somebody available for them to go up them, they're giving up a second round pick to go up. So let's go to the podium, the Anaheim Ducks on the pick for their second selection of this year's first round. Making our next selection is a man that has shown our organization great inspiration has shown us also what courage is all about. A man who shows us every day what a great positive attitude can change things. It's a man that's beaten pancreatic cancer. Making our selection is the Dershen Maharaj. The Anaheim Ducks are proud to select from Norway, Steen Solberg. Steen Solberg, the second Norwegian to ever get drafted in the first round of the NHL entry draft. The first was Michael Brown's Agnighard a little bit earlier in tonight's draft. Steen Solberg goes to the Anaheim Ducks here out of Valeranga in Norway. And, you know, considering they had the third pick, a lot of people thought they were going to go with the defenseman, was an organizational need after they traded away Jamie Drysdale. But now that they've moved up, this is where they get their demand here in Solberg's act. Yeah, the Norwegian Renaissance continues. And yes, it is a Renaissance Dan 'cause back in the '50s, there was a time in the '60s with Norway was somewhat competitive on the world stage. You know, they had a few fourth and fifth place finishes on the world championship stage. Was it Baco Newgarden or... (laughing) Baco Newgarden. (laughing) Oh, yeah, some among those lines. Yeah, I don't know. I only know so many Norwegian names. That would be a lot for me. A lot of Scholbergs back in the day. But yeah, I mean, it's cool to see though, like Norway, like, you know, I was kind of joking that Norway, which is actually a great winter country. Like they're great at the Winter Olympics, like skiing and stuff like that. Like they crush when it comes to medals. Oh, they are like them in Japan just own the ski jump. Every single time. I mean, the country is really, it's really narrow country and it's like all mountains. Yeah. So I mean, that's probably why. But there are hockey's really coming along. And we mentioned about Scholberg, we talked about Newgarden earlier. And I've had, you know, some scouts I've spoken to that feel like if those guys came from more traditional countries, they probably go a bit higher. Yeah. But we've seen this in the past, like Slovenian players, like Copitar, for instance. Like we've seen this where guys from non-traditional countries sometimes go a little bit lower than they hit the ice at the national hockey level. And I was like, wow, like, maybe should have gone a little bit higher. And Scholberg's considered, you know, one of those players that has a lot of overall ability to, and as a smart hockey player. So interesting to see Anaheim get 'em. And it makes sense that they trade it up for a player like him at this stage of the draft, right? So Scholberg, defenseman out of Norway going to Anaheim. We do have another trade developing on the draft floor in Las Vegas as it looks like Utah is now moving up in an exchange of picks with the Colorado Avalanche. Colorado was slated to make their first round selection here at number 24, but Utah, hockey club. We don't know yet what their official name will be. - I'm kinda like, I'm kinda cool with just keeping a Utah hockey club. - I mean, we're soccer guys, so we're totally okay with it. Let's go to the podium for Gary Bettman's announcement of the trade. - Colorado trades pick number 24 in this year's draft to Utah for picks number 38 and 71 in this year's draft and the New York Rangers second round pick in 2025, which was previously acquired by Utah. So Colorado trades 24 this year's draft, the Utah for 38 and 71 and the Rangers second round pick in 2025, which Utah previously acquired? Utah, you are on the clock. - So 38 and 71 in this year's draft. And I mean, look, Utah's got about a thousand picks in the second and third rounds of the next couple of drafts. So it doesn't really matter a ton to them and the New York Rangers selection in next year's second round as well. - This kind of reminds me something of, we spoke to Shane Malloy. And if you missed some of their draft coverage the past couple of weeks, make sure to go back on the Canucks central feed to check him out, both with Cam Bromison and Shane Malloy, but Shane mentioning that, you know, there's a big swath of players too from like 20 to like 60, where there's like, there isn't a ton separating players. And that kind of better informs why a team like Colorado is essentially trading from the first round down to the third round in this year's draft. Now they get a second round pick in 2025. - Well, they get 38th overall two here. Sorry, 38th overall and they get 20, 25 second round pick. Like I think what that shows you is Colorado's probably feeling pretty confident in them being able to get a player down the road and them being able to get a 2025 pick. - Yeah. - Like that's a fantastic trade chip next season for a team that's going to be looking to improve at the trade deadline. - Yeah, an extra second round pick when it comes to deadline time is going to be valuable for the Colorado Avalanche. Yes, for Utah, you know, they had the sixth overall selection earlier tonight. They selected T.J. Ginla. So they added to their forward group already. What are they looking to do here? Yeah, I would say from a lot of draft boards that I've been checking out as we've gone along here, Sat, Liam Greentree is probably the name that sits atop most draft boards as it currently sits. The Windsor Spitfires player, power forward, plays on the left wing and is thought to have been a top 15-ish type talent. And we've yet to see his name called here tonight. So that would be one of the names to maybe keep an eye on here with Utah. - Yeah, I mean, I think what's held him back is his skating, not the fastest type of player. And one guy he's been compared to is a guy I love a few years back in Matt Boldy. So I know he's a player that obviously has a lot of talent, but it seems like that skating has really kind of held him back. And that's one of the reasons why he's probably hasn't been drafted yet. It's interesting because he's one of the players that a lot of people projected would go higher. I got all those interesting betting odds on whether Liam Greentree would go ahead of some other players. And he was kind of the favorite of perhaps going over. A couple of guys have already been drafted. So this one is a little bit of a surprise at this stage that he's still on the board about anywhere from eight to 10 picks later than people thought he would likely go. - So that's a name to keep an eye on here with Utah, who's a really interesting team. I know there's at least a couple of textures that come in at 6.50, 6.50 and often ask about Kessel Ring. He today signed with Utah. So he is staying there. We'll go back to the podium in Las Vegas as the Utah front office is heading back up for their second pick of the first round of tonight's draft. (crowd chanting) - Utah slacks from Bay Area of the OHL. Cole Boydwen. (crowd cheering) - Cole Boydwen is your latest pick going to the Utah Hockey Club. We'll have more on this latest selection and the few picks still to come here in the first round as we've got number 25 on the board and beyond the next team on the clock is the Boston Bruins. So we'll get to that next. It is draft coverage continuing on Sportsnet 6.50. It's Canucks Central. - Hey, it's Mike Alford and Jason Bruff. Join us for Halford and Bruff in the morning, weekdays for 6 to 9 a.m. on Sportsnet 6.50. - Or on demand anytime through your favorite podcast app. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - It is coverage of the NHL entry draft. We are into the third hour, actually the fourth hour of programming here on Canucks Central. (upbeat music) We are toward the 25th pick in the draft. It is the Boston Bruins stepping up to the podium in Las Vegas at the sphere. Here we go. (upbeat music) - I want to thank our Boston fans for their support and with our pick in the first round, our director, I'm just scouting. Ryan Nadell. (crowd cheering) - The Boston Bruins are proud to select from St. Andrews College, Dean Latorno. (crowd cheering) - The Boston Bruins get in the center that they've been looking for, I think. Dean Latorno is their pick at number 25. And I gotta say, as we've talked about, I haven't watched, been able to watch a ton of tape this year as we haven't been as all in on this draft as we usually are. The Canucks do not have a selection, but this guy is interesting, scored 127 points with St. Andrews College is six foot seven, plays center and has got dangles for days. It's pretty, it's a lot of fun to watch. I suggest our listeners go check out some Dean Latorno tape if they can. - Yeah, and a guy you think of right away when you see him is Taged Thompson, isn't it? - Yeah, and I think there's maybe more of a willingness to select these big players with puck skills after seeing the breakout that we've seen out of Taged Thompson in the last couple of years because people are saying, wow, if it hits, the upside is just so incredible. - Yeah, it does, and I haven't seen, as I've seen some clips from him, but I haven't seen Doug deep into it, but I was reading the elite prospects breakdown of him and the two players that they've compared him to. I mentioned Taged Thompson, and the other guy is Nick Bugstadt. So you see there's a pretty wide range because when Bugstadt came in similar, like big guy had some talent, people thought this guy's gonna be a top, top, top of centerman, but end up being more of a checker now at this stage of his career, right? Never really developed into this higher end offensive player, whereas Taged Thompson became that. Now, and I think it's interesting when you see those two comparisons, that's the range of this player. He might be a Nick Bugstadt type, which is fine. It's just not anything to be overly excited about. It's just nice depth to have in your team, but if you hit a home run and he's Taged Thompson, that's where. - I mean, as far as the toolkit goes, he's like, you know, a little bit of a unicorn, right? I mean, you just don't see guys this big with the puck skills that he has and the agility that he has. Now, you know, you're projecting essentially what like a junior A player in Ontario to the NHL. So not a lot of these guys get drafted in the first round given they're not playing in big spots, like some other prospects might be, but he's headed to Boston College next year. And so he's gonna be local for the Boston Bruins to keep an eye on as well. That's probably helpful to them. But a really intriguing toolkit for Dean Latorno. I'm sure he's gonna have his work cut out for him, trying to catch up to a Lieslin home on the Boston Bruins depth chart over the next couple of years. - Yeah, it might be a little bit difficult, but honestly, like I think at the stage where Boston is picking, like don't you look to take some high upside guys like that? - Yeah. - And honestly, when you're picking at that stage, even if it turns out to be a checking center, you don't feel bad about that with the 25th overall pick, but you're taking somebody with the upside, potentially a being a difference maker. - Yeah, and that's exactly what Dean Latorno could be. Now on Boston, I joked about Lieslin home. It seems like one of the worst kept secrets around hockey that he's probably going to be a Boston Bruins. As of Monday, I heard today as well that the Bruins may be one of the teams in on Zadorov as well. - Yeah, Zadorov has been a link to a couple of teams. One in the West, which we've heard quite a bit as with new national predators, their team to watch was Zadorov, but also the Bruins. They've also been rumored to be interested in Zadorov. They're letting four board go, so they want to replace that with a big presence on the back end, I'm sure, and also Mac Resilik is a free agent. So they have a couple of spots open and they kind of want a guy in that four or five range. And Zadorov- - For as good as Grislik was, they didn't trust him as much in the playoffs. - No, they didn't. - Yeah. - They felt great about him in the regular season, but every time playoffs came around, you just saw the trust level drop. - Yeah, and I think that's a great point. And I think it shows you what they're after, even four board actually had healthy scratches that they can one or two playoff games as well. So the confidence in those guys weren't there. I understand why they're going after it. Another team I keep an eye on for Lindholm is LA. And we'll see what LA does here. Friedman mentioning they're in on Tifoli, perhaps on Gensl as well, right? But that's a team that I'm also keeping an eye on. It seems like if I had to put money down on with you, it's Boston for Lindholm. The team I keep an eye on is LA 'cause they are also looking for a center and a winger here in the free agent market. - The LA Kings on the clock. They traded earlier in the day with Montreal down from 21 to 26, collected an extra couple of picks. One thing we did hear some of our friends over at the fourth period, Dennis Bernstein reported earlier today from the draft floor that as far as he's concerned, LA would be out or would not be considered a suitor for Jake Gensl. Should he make it to July 1? - Great, take one team off the list. - So take one team off the list. - And Dennis would know, he knows LA. - He's as tight with LA as anybody else. So, and we've kind of heard who LA might be on the heels of, it's Lindholm, it's Tifoli, it's those kinds of players. So Gensl, we thought once the duot trade happened, maybe they would be a suitor for Gensl, but it doesn't appear to be happening that way. And I gotta say, like these next few days, the Gensl sweepstakes are going to be unreal. - Yeah, man, it's gonna be a lot of fun. - Especially from a Vancouver fans perspective. - I mean, I think we're all kind of waiting to see if anybody trades for his rights. - Yeah, let's go back to Las Vegas. The LA Kings are stepping up to the podium. - Say hello to our Kings fans back in Los Angeles and this election will be the first time that a new draft picks were our new jersey. And Mark Unity, ahead of scouting, will be making the announcement. - With the 26 pick, the Los Angeles Kings select from the Windsor Spitfires, Liam Greentree. - Liam Greentree is the selection out of the Windsor Spitfires a player. We were just talking about not all that long ago as being one of the names that's dropped quite a bit considering where most people had him predicted to go in the first round. Sort of a mid-round pick that's dropped to the bottom of the first round. - Yeah, and we see this in every draft, right? And I'm sure LA's going to talk about how elated they are of him being that. - This is concentrated down and we still got a guy that we had potentially available to us at 21. - Exactly, and they may not necessarily be wrong, right? On Liam Greentree as well, but a very talented player and a guy who did put up a lot of points in the OHL as a 17 year old this year, right? So it's a guy that has a lot of ability. I'm curious to find out what led to him going a bit later this year, is it just one of those things? Honestly, sometimes it's funny 'cause we think of all man, everybody's low on this guy. And it could have been a case where he may have been in top 15 on every single team's board, but somebody above him was always available. And that's one of the most fascinating things about draft. And I've spoken to scouts about this on different teams where they say like, we talked to teams like in the top 10 and this guy was in the top 10 for every single team, but he was picked like 17 just because it just ended up that one guy that was higher on the list was available for each team. And all of a sudden this guy who was a top 10 talent going to everybody is available in the teams, late teens for instance, right? And I don't know if Green Tree falls into that category 'cause a lot of teams obviously picked ahead of him, teams traded down or whatever. But that's the one thing I always kind of think of when we see players that were considered to go higher when they go a bit later. - So I have a question though, you heard Luke Robotai there say first player to wear our new jersey is gonna be this first round pick. It's new but it's old. - Yeah, I get what he was trying to say. I think was that where Rob Blake was saying to him when he came back. Rob Blake turns and wasn't even smiling. He's like, you know, I wore that, you wore that jersey, right? - We wore that jersey, what are you talking about? - I also like, okay, personally I love that King's jersey but I remember it from when I was a kid. I remember watching Gretzky in it and all that kind of stuff. But is it like one of those things like us guys who grew up with it love it? And maybe somebody like Josh and Ben don't love it as much. - What a better way to ask. Let's ask these people in what they think about it. - Josh, are you in or out on the King's jerseys going back to the old black and silver threads? - I think they are better than what they had before but I don't think they're all that great. - The purple ones are better. - If they had done this, like they had the reverse retro ones that were this logo but they were like purple and yellow, right? Those were sick. If they had gone with those, I would have been all in. But these ones are just... - But I understand what you mean because I look at the mid 2000s jerseys that I grew up watching. I'm like, these are all so sick. - Yeah. - And anybody that's sort of in our age range that is gonna be like, yeah, those King's jerseys are... They're hot. - They're hot. They're dope. I mean, I always love those jerseys. You know, here's a random fact though. I don't know why 'cause Gretzky wore that jersey. We mentioned Wal Blake, all these great players but you know what player I think about when I see that jersey? - Lou Grobata. - No. Marty McSroy. - It's a defense minute and you're not gonna guess. You might. - Dave Taylor. - It's even more random than that. He was a good player. Also played for the stars. - Darryl Sedor. - Yes. (laughing) I don't know. But when I see that jersey, I think about Darryl Sedor. - Maybe one of the most unthought about players in the NHL. - I'm telling you. - Like Drew, unthought about players in the NHL. - That's what I'm saying. It's very, very random. I mean, I always liked Darryl Sedor. I thought he was underrated. - Yeah. - But I don't know why. When I think of a player in that jersey, I think of Darryl Sedor. - All right. - Well, the King's... - Random. - I'm told you it was random. - The King's selecting Liam Greentree. So that is now gone. One of the names that was one of the ones that had dropped, according to a lot of draft boards down. Now we take a look back at some of the other names. Andrew Bascha is a name. So maybe keep an eye on here through the final few picks of the draft. Ryder Ritchie, Teddy Stiga, is names that are still available for the upcoming selections of this NHL entry draft. Now, you know, the Canucks, I think they've gotten to a point. And the news of Zadorov not coming back, it feels as though the Canucks have kind of gotten to a point where now the focus is free agency, right? You know, they made the moves this week and the focus is on free agency. And the main focus is probably on Jake Genssel. We are getting a trade happening here, a pick swap coming up down in Las Vegas. We'll get the details on it as it continues to develop. But it's pretty obvious that the focus is mostly on the Canucks pursuit of Jake Genssel. Let's go back to Las Vegas to Gary Betman with the trade. - Thank everyone who's in attendance here tonight. Tonight's attendance is 14,220, which is a sell-out for this event. So, boo me, but give yourselves a hand. Carolina. - We hear you face. - Carolina trades the 27th pick in this year's draft to Chicago for picks number 34 and 50. Also this year, Carolina sends 27th to Chicago for 34 and 50. Chicago, you're on the clock. - So Carolina does make a trade in the end, Sat. - Yeah. - I mean, I'll take the trades. - Boring to who? - They're making trades. I like the trade. Honestly, the trade downs have been fine. - Yeah, the most boring kind of trade now. - It is too, it is, but it is, it's true. But nonetheless, like I will take the trades. What, is this the fourth trade now? - Yeah. - Tonight? - Yeah, it's good. - I think the over-under was like six and a half. I don't think we'll get there though. - No, it's been fine. I think we had a year where there was like one trade down or none. - Yeah, last year, I think there was zero. - Well, the trade down is, that's just right. - The thing is, the few teams that have been rebuilding for the last couple of years, they've just got so many extra picks. - Yeah. - So it's like, what are we going to do with them? Are we going to make all these selections? We have four second rounders. I don't know if we need all these. - Yeah, Maize will trade up. - Yeah. - I mean, Chicago didn't even want to pick from the Canucks this year or next year. They're like, 20, 27. - Yeah. - Fairly in the case. We'll take a second round pick down the line. We don't need it right now. So Chicago is going to make their third selection here of the first round whenever they decide to get up to the podium, because I'm sure they don't know who they're selecting yet after trading up with the guys. - Hey guys, what do we take? We got this pick now. Is Andrew Basha maybe? - It could be Andrew Basha. I mean, Chicago's taken Lev Shunov in the draft at number two overall. And then with their second pick, they picked Michael Haig in this second round, or sorry, in the first round of this draft. So, or was it Sasha Boyver? - Boyver was selected. - Yeah, it was Boyver that went to Chicago with their second pick. So now they've got another one here in this first round. - The guy I would wonder about as well, and this is a town-to-player, kind of fits the profile of two-way players they've kind of gone after as well, would be the Russian forward. Igor Chernishov out of the dynamo. He's six foot two, has some pace to his game. I wonder if he's a guy that kind of fits the mole of the players they've been after in the past. And I know that he's a player that Sam Konstantino had in his top 20, 18th in his final ranking. - So that's a name to keep an eye on here for Kyle Davidson and the Chicago Blackhawks who are destined for another rebuild type of year. The Chicago Blackhawks are, but we will see. They've already selected a couple of times here in the first round and have a third selection on tap. The second time, they've traded up into the first round because they made an early trade with New York to trade into the 20th overall selection. Now they've traded into 27 with Carolina. Let's get back to Las Vegas for this next pick from Chicago. - Chicago Blackhawks are proud to select from the Brandford Bulldogs, Merrick Van Acker. - Merrick Van Acker is the latest pick for the Blackhawks, a left winger coming out of the OHL, the Brandford Bulldogs for Chicago. So they've gone with a couple of forwards and the defenseman at number two overall with their three first round picks. - He's a player with a lot of pace of Van Acker and he is a guy that is projected, was projected to be a first round pick in this range. And he does kind of fit the profile of the types of players Chicago's gone after. I mentioned a player with some pace that can get into the four check and that's kind of what Merrick Van Acker can do as well. So he does fit the mold of the types of players Chicago has been prioritizing forward wise. They got all over more last year, for instance. So it does fit that Chicago mold. - That was the only thing I didn't love about the Canucks moving off that pick that they had from Detroit was that all of a more ended up being available for them. - All right, yeah. - Two select, should they have kept the pick but I think Philopronic worked out all right. Do we think, I think it worked out all right. A lot better than having another draft pick in the stable. So Chicago is at number 27 Merrick Van Acker out of the OHL, a left winger. And now we get to 28, where the Canucks would have selected should they have not traded for Lise Lindholm with the Calgary Flames. - Oh yeah, I wonder what the Calgary Flames do here, right? And so they get Zane Parrick, pick Young 9th overall, super talented right hand defenseman. And there are a few defenseman still on the board right now too. So what are they going to be prioritizing? Obviously, we always talk about what are they prioritizing. It's probably gonna be the best player available. And of some of those players available, I mentioned Cherna Shav, he's a guy that has talent. He is still on the board, somebody to keep an eye on here. Andrew Basha is another one, played in the WHO for Medicine Hat, so a guy that they would have been able to see a lot of and would know very well. And if they pass on, I'm probably tells you a lot as well at the same time, right? So I think that's something that I'm kind of looking at. Not making prediction, just kind of wondering if they go into their own backyard. - So that's a couple of names to keep an eye on. On the Canucks front, they traded the extra pick they had in the first round last year. They traded their first round pick this year. Patrick Colvin has not made a second round selection since becoming the GM of the Vancouver Canucks. And he won't make one tomorrow again. So they do, whoa, we don't know. - As far as far as we know. - As far as we know. - 'Cause one phone call can change at all. - One phone call can change at all as we always know. But how does this affect the Canucks competitive window? I mean, I think we've seen its effect already in that they don't have a lot of trade chips even to go out and get extra talent. They're forced into the free agent market here this year. - The reason, the thing that really helps it be digestible in addition to obviously the Canucks getting being one game away from getting to the conference, fine, you know, you had some level of success for the moves you made and trading Lindholm. They were able to clear Kuzmanko's contract. Which has allowed them to be players, this free agency. - For a Jake Gens. - For a Jake Gens will type a player and a better player than a Kuzmanko and a better fit on the team. So it's not all for not. So there is a tangible benefit in terms of the Canucks having more flexibility to find a needle moving player. But that's what it has to be. Like if you're making these types of moves, you're gonna have to be able to hit a couple home runs elsewhere. And it does hurt this organization in terms of having more ready-made, high caliber potential players available to supplement this roster in two or three years. 'Cause we talked about this quite a bit outside of Willander and Lakerimaki. There aren't, there aren't any connects prospects and anybody could emerge. And it's not to say that none of these players are ever going to become top six guys. But there isn't anybody outside of those two players that right now you can realistically project or feel like there is a realistic projection at some point of being top six players or being top four defense men. And I think that's what they're going to have to figure out over the next couple of years here is without these draft picks that they haven't had, can they find these guys in other means over the next few years? - It, you know, I think there isn't a doubt that the Canucks feel good about the way they've developed guys. This new front office has been able to develop some players and some guys that are credibly, you know, on the brink of becoming NHLers. Whether it's our steep Bae and Zatu, Rottu, Vasily pod Coles and how they've turned his development around and feel pretty good about him going into next year. Even Linus Carlson as well. Like all those guys, it can be valuable. But one of the things is like they've tried to make trades, those guys don't have a ton of value with other teams. And so, you know, that's where you're, you're struggling a little bit. What, who did Calgary prioritize? They prioritize Hunter Bruce Devitch, hadn't had a sniff for the NHL yet, is still an NHL player was having an incredible year in the NHL after getting drafted by the Canucks last year. So that's one of the things I think that's affecting the Canucks ability is not having as many trade chips to go out and make plays for other players. Not necessarily having the picks to come up and take some cheap roster spots. That's an obvious one. But also not having trade extra trade chips to go out and get some real talent. - What they're, I think, banking on to some extent. And I'll finish this thought on the other side. - Let's go to Calgary's pick. They have Vancouver's pick that they're selecting with here at number 28 overall. (crowd chattering) With the 28th pick, the Calgary Flames are proud to select from the Muskegon Lumberjacks, Matt Vay Grideen. - All right, from the Muskegon Lumberjacks. - I love that Muskegon is my favorite team. - Yes, Matt Vay Grideen goes to the Calgary Flames at number 28 overall with the pick that the Vancouver Canucks had. According to the Elite Prospects draft guide, they had him ranked number 91. No, it was not even the top ranked player on his Muskegon Lumberjack Jack USHL team. - Yeah, he's one of those guys. I've seen him Elite Prospects had him at 91. So off the board or not, like we said, teams have different draft boards or whatever it is. But the projection has kind of been a fourth line type of player. Now he's scored a lot at the USHL level, but the USHL level isn't always the greatest indication of actually having great success. So it'll be interesting to see how his development goes. We're trying to figure out if Calgary made this move because his last name sounds like Grideen and they thought they could get another future conduct again. - It sounds like Grideen. - It does sound like-- - He was a conoc, it was pretty good. - Grideen, but it is G-R-I-D-I-N, not G-R-A-D-I-N, the great Thomas Grideen, of course. So that's the pick Calgary uses, well, Calgary get from Vancouver and they use it to select Matt Vagradine. - Yeah, and for sure. And the thought I was trying to make here on these players and we're talking about Hoaglander, we're talking about put Colson and how put Colson this past year took enough of a step they thought of the AHL, much like Hoaglander did, that they gave him a two year, $1 million contract. And that's I think is interesting because they feel like his game has taken a step after going to Abbotsford. Can they take another step next year and can he make that type of Hoaglander type of jump? And if he can, then you have an internal guy that can play in your bottom six, play a third line role and be pretty solid for you, solid for you, but what they're gonna need is for him to develop, right? And take that step in AHL. They're gonna need a guy like Autu Ratu, they're gonna need a player like R. St. Baines and not just for this team, but for them to play well enough that they have some trade value. 'Cause if the Canucks aren't gonna have a ton of draft picks to trade those assets, their prospects are gonna have to be assets for them. And that's why their development, even to just kind of becoming credible AHL players is so important, not only for this team under cheap contracts, but can you actually flip a couple? Like we saw Dallas trade tied to Landria. - Mm-hmm. - And they got a third round pick out of it. And it's like, okay, you know, that's a pick now that in the season you can flip for a good player. Like a third round pick at the trade deadline gets you a competent defenseman. A fourth round pick was the Canucks gave up a third and a fifth to get-- - The Kidos Adora, they gave up a fifth to get Sam Lafferty. So if you have a fourth, like you're, or even, you know, like that's what I'm kind of hoping to see too is if you don't believe in these guys, can get them to a level where they're worth a draft pick. - And even a third to get, well, get rid of Tanner Pearson and add Casey to start with last year. So that's where those picks can be very valuable. All right, we're gonna take a break. We are at number 29 in the draft. Dallas Stars are on the clock. It's final picks of the first round here on draft central. And of course, we've got more to come. All three of those picks coming next on Canucks Central. (upbeat music) - Hey, it's Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drans. Get your daily dose of Canucks talk with us weekdays from 12 to two on SportsNet 650. Or catch up on demand through your favorite podcast app. (upbeat music) With the 29th selection, the Dallas Stars are proud to select from TPS, Turku, Emil Hemming. - Yeah, that is the 29th selection, which leaves three remaining in the draft. NHL draft coverage is brought to you by oxygen yoga and fitness, not your typical yoga studio. So as far as this is concerned, we are into hour number four of our coverage. Coming to an end, but we'll have about less than 13 hours to regroup, get some shut eye, and then we're back here for an 8.30 start tomorrow morning for day two of draft coverage. And hopefully at some point, the Canucks will make a selection. - Hopefully. They will make a selection tomorrow. - Sladed in the third round. - They just don't. - You can't put it past them, I suppose. - They pull the Minnesota Vikings and just forget that they're on the clock. - All right, with Jake, with Jake Genssel, the question is, will Carolina trade his rights and will Vancouver beaten on that if they don't get a deal done with them, right? 'Cause I would imagine the reason they wanted to get it done by the draft, the start of the draft, was so they could potentially get a draft pick in time for day two. - Yes. - Or at least get a trade done that gives you a future draft pick ahead of July 1st, right? 'Cause otherwise, why would you wanna get it done by the state, you know? So that's kind of what I wonder about. So that's something to watch tomorrow. - Until Sunday at some point to have the ability to offer Jake Genssel the eighth year as well. - Right, yeah, so that's like, you know, and it will be a kind of a sign and trade. You need a little bit of time to figure that out if that happens. And that's if teams are actually willing to do that. - Yeah. - Like it could happen where teams are like, "Well, we're good, we'll just wait." - Yeah. - And if that happens, you can't trade the players. So we'll see if Carolina can pull it off or not. - On that note, we haven't seen, there's been, you know, a lot of talk about Sam Reinhardt signing, March or so still having conversations with the Vegas Golden Knights. But Stephen Stamcoast today, all signs pointing to Stephen Stamcoast hitting free agency on July 1th. - Yeah, Donnie and his agent was quoted by Pierre Lebrona saying we're going to July 1st. And one thing Lebron wondered about in his article in The Athletic was whether it was a long-term offer to Stamcoast, which we'll talk about in a second. - The Rangers are at the podium in Las Vegas. - Rangers are proud to select from the US National Program, Eric Emery. (crowd cheering) - So I like the Rangers style. They just go up and make their selection. No preamble or anything like that. They just go and make the selection. EJ Emery is their selection for the New York Rangers. - And a really, really fascinating player in this draft. I think he's one of the only players to get drafted without scoring a goal this past year. 60 games without scoring a goal. And I think we joked about that with Shane Malloy as well. And he said, "Hey, well, he scored "in an international tournament, "so he didn't go the entire year without getting a goal." But he's a player with immense potential and an immense talent. And he's a type of player that at this stage of the draft is very interesting to take a shot at, right? And he has a high ceiling potentially, but it's a very raw player. It's very toolsy, but needs some development time. So I was wondering if this guy would go in the first round and the Rangers, it makes sense that it's a team like the Rangers taking a shot at him. - Known as a defensive defenseman, has a right shot. And we know that just how difficult it can be to find those guys and play defense well. So EJ Emery off the board at number 29 to the New York, or sorry, number 30 to the New York Rangers. Just two picks remaining. The Toronto Maple Leafs are on the clock after trading down earlier with the Anaheim Ducks. They are at 31. So Stephen Stamkos and the impasse that he is at with the Tampa Bay light. - Yeah, so Lebron wondered if they made a eight-year offer to him because what he had heard was with Collar in the year prior, they had made him an eight-year offer at 2.5 million per year, which was 20 million total money. He ends up signing for 25 million or 24 million total money with the Anaheim Ducks. So it was 25. So $5 million difference, obviously. That's quite a bit of money. So he ends up going there. And he wondered if they try to do the same with Stamkos, but at three million per season, which comes out to $24 million in total money. So that to me, and he said no to that. And he wondered if it would be in a four to five million range. If it's in the four to five million range, that means the total money that he would want would be anywhere from 36 to 44 million. - Yeah. - So that kind of tells me that Stephen Stamkos, on July 1st, if he's not going back to the Tampa Bay lightning, you're not getting him for like a three-year deal worth 21 million, seven million per season. I think you're looking at-- - The old Joe Povelsky deal to doubt. - Yes, I think if you say no to that to Tampa, and we'll see what he signs for if he stays, you're probably looking at eight times four. He probably wants a four-year deal, if not longer term. So you can go longer term with a smaller AAV. But I don't think Stamkos at 34 is going to be an interesting-- - Yeah. - You know, like at an interesting price, it's going to be expensive. It might be worth it, but that one scares me a bit. Stamkos does, like if you have to pay eight times four for a 34-year-old who's not the same Stamkos, I'd only scored 40 goals and he had 80 points, but I don't think people understand when they watch him play, that you're not going to be getting the Stamkos you think you remember from three or four years ago. He's a different version of himself right now, and the pathways for him to score as many points here may not be quite as simple as it was with the Tampa Bay lightning. - His lengthy injury history, despite what his numbers may say, have slowed him down quite a bit. I think he's still going to be an offensive producer, is still a guy that in the right spot on a right power play can do a lot of damage, but it's got to be the right spot on the right team. - Well, here's the thing though. I see people say he's a perfect power player for this team. - I don't think for the Canucks. - Well, that's a thing because his best spot, and he's a right hand shot, is in JT Miller's spot. - Yeah. - So if you have JT Miller and Steven Stamkos on the same power play, one of those guys will have to play out of position. Now, I think JT is talented enough, and he's a good enough shooter, that him as a left hand shot in the bumper could be intriguing, so I'm not against the idea of trying it, but I think it's not a straight fix, and it changes the power play quite dramatically, and if you can't get the best version of JT on the power play, are you sacrificing the best version and one of your two best power play players? Are you paying both guys a lot of money? That's my question. It's not a straightforward fit with Stamkos on the power play, it's not. - Not for the Vancouver Canucks, but I think if you're a team that's maybe targeting Stamkos, you're probably hoping that he's able to fill a spot on your power play, but you probably have a hole on your left half wall, and you're looking for a guy that's gonna fill that. The Canucks don't really necessarily have that with JT Miller, so that's where the fit doesn't work for Vancouver. - And that's why you can understand why Vancouver is so aggressive on Gensil, 'cause he's the only real perfect fit on the free agent market, like he's it. - Yeah. - You know, the other left hand shots aren't great. - No. - Options, like not guys you wanna commit to, and you know, I bring up Zucker as like a great class in case of emergency, but he's not a solution. - No. - You know, he's like a stop gap, you know? The righties aren't perfect fits. Like, it's not Gensil or Butz, but for the impact Vancouver wants, he's kind of a one for one option, and there aren't any other guys like him. - And that is why, you know, the entry around Jake Gensil remains the biggest story over the course of draft weekend, at least from a Canucks fan's perspective. What do we know about it? As we've updated you through the night, you know, Carolina came up to an eight by eight, or at least in the ballpark of an eight by eight offer, which they thought would be enough to get it done for Jake Gensil, but we haven't heard anything. Now is that, you know, them sort of leaving the news cycle to the NHL entry draft, and maybe they'll announce it tomorrow? I don't know, but it does seem odd that that has not at least seen any sort of direction as of right now. The Maple Leafs are stepping up to the podium. They've got the 31st pick in the NHL entry draft after trading down from 23 with Anaheim earlier tonight. Here they are. - Toronto selects from the Oshawa Generals, Ben Danford. (cheering) - Another team that's ready to go and hit the poker tables in Las Vegas tonight. No preamble. They select Ben Danford from the Oshawa Generals. So they select out of their backyard in the Ontario Hockey League, do the Maple Leafs. They've got an interesting off season ahead of them as well. You know, we know that, you know, I mentioned earlier that the Boston Bruins could be a team that's really looking at Nikita Zadorov right now. They've certainly been in on Elias Lindholm's Adorov and Lindholm from what I know are pretty tight, so wouldn't be a surprise to necessarily see them go to the same spot. Maple Leafs though, also going to be in on Zadorov. Probably on Tanev as well, who is said to still be a Canucks target, even if I feel it's unlikely. - Yeah, I think with Tanev, if he's actually looking at five million per season, it doesn't work here. It would work here if they go longer on the term, but then that gets dicey for player his age. - Yeah, with his injury history too, I mean. - I wouldn't put it past them though, like 'cause I think they value Tanev a lot. They like Tanev a lot, and I think there's a certain defense on the team that would love to have Tanev back on the spot. - Who was recently hanging out at Zach Ryan concert with Cristana? - And recently took home some pretty incredible hardware. - Carson Susie. - Yeah, that's the pick, that's the pick, good one. But yeah, so I think Quinn and others will be very happy. And so I wouldn't say it's unlikely, but it's one that's a bit more complicated if you're getting Gensil. Now, if you're not getting Gensil, Dan. - Then you kinda can be a bit heavier on the bidding for Cristanav. - If you aren't getting Gensil, then you've gotta have some plan Bs. There's no other real, I mean, as far as Stamkos and maybe March or so ago, there's still some expensive forwards available, but yeah, you wouldn't be spending as much on those guys as you would be on Gensil. - Yeah, I mean, Stamkos would be the guy, I think it would be closest if he gets there and if he signs for like a four-year deal, it'd be around eight million range. But yeah, March or so and Stefoli, we're talking seven or under, Stefoli I don't think gets to seven. - An intriguing tweet from Darren Dregger here. Trade wins blowing, okay, 20 seconds ago. Now, is this a pick swap? The only trades we've seen tonight have been pick swaps. Philadelphia was involved in one of them. They are the team that is on the clock at number 32, with a pick they acquired from the Florida Panthers. I guess that would have been in the trades for Clodgeroo. But Philadelphia owns the final pick of the first round. But the intrigue and the anticipation is now ticked up a bit as Darren Dregger tweets out, trade wins are blowing. - I love it if it's like a day two trade down. - It's gonna be the most boring thing ever. - If it is the most boring trade, Darren Dreggeroo should be canceled. - So, rental of law is saying a transaction between the flyers and the oilers shortly. - All right, I did hear. - So would be a 32, I mean, Philly has picked 32? - Yeah, the flyers and the oilers. That would be an interesting one. I mean, who's a GM making this call? Is it Ken Hall? - There has been a lot of buzz around the admitted oilers trying to move off of an Evander cane. Now, would that be something that is of interest to the Philadelphia flyers? I don't see why it would be necessarily. - I mean, like how are you getting that pick? - Yeah. - If that's the case, wouldn't make a ton of sense. - Yeah, I mean, but Edmonton doesn't have a first, they have a, I mean, yeah, I'm interested on this one. So let's see if this trade does go down between the flyers and the oilers, like, Renn Levois just tweeted out. Now, maybe it's not even about the pick, but it's interesting that it's the last pick and the flyers, right, so. - The last pick of the first round owned by the Philadelphia flyers and trade wins potentially are a blowing right now at the sphere in Las Vegas. So the focus will be on the Vancouver Canucks tomorrow. They do not have a selection in the second round. Edmonton is moving into the first round here. So there is the trade that is likely happening as we speak. Elliot Friedman just saying that Edmonton is trading into the first round, so we will prolong our coverage here for just a few more minutes as the Edmonton oilers and their unnamed GM are moving into the first round in a trade with the Philadelphia flyers, but Canucks are very much going to be of interest tomorrow, whether it's, you know, things developing as far as their off-season plans are concerned, but also they'll finally make a pick, whether it's in the third round or the fifth round where they have two selections. So they do have some selections slated for tomorrow, but is there a strategy or something to that effect, sat that the Canucks could employ with their few draft picks that they have? Is it, you know, trying to target centers and right-shot defensemen because those are the guys that are of, you know, positional value? - Yeah, I think that's fair. One thing I would expect to see as well is them really prioritizing the character of players. It did that last year or two, right? Especially when we have so few picks too, and this is something we spoke to Shane Malloy about as well, and he talked about the difference usually for those guys later as it comes down to work ethic, it comes down to character belief and like how willing a player is to grind it out and get to that level. And I think it's an interesting way of trying to go after players in that stage, 'cause if you just look at talent, clearly it's hard for those guys to hit, so is there something more tangible that you can kind of look for that shows how these guys, you know, emerge out of nowhere sometimes? And I would expect to see them go down the same road here tomorrow. - Last year, the Canucks, you know, they did not have a second round pick, and, you know, the players that they selected, it was, you know, the second draft of Patrick Alvin's tenure. When it got to the third round, you know, they took Hunter Brestevich, Sawyer Minow, Ty Mueller, focused as a center as well. Vilmar Alrickson, more of a winger, Matthew Perkins and Aiden Celebrini were the other picks in the later rounds. We do have the trade as we head back to Las Vegas, Gary Betman at the podium to announce the trade. - Another trade, obviously. Philadelphia trades, the 32nd pick in this year's draft to the Edmonton Oilers for Edmonton's first round pick, either in 2025 or 2026 with some conditions, but Philly trades 32, to Edmonton, for Edmonton's first round pick in 2025 or 2026. So Edmonton, you're on the clock. - This seems like a puzzling move for the Edmonton Oilers. - I mean, I think what it means is they feel like they're gonna sign Lee on Drycidal next season, and then Edmonton's gonna tank in 2026, so then they'll get a high draft pick. - It's 40 chests. - Well, you know, what did you trade a first round pick for the last pick of the first round? - Well, because, I mean, you have to give value for it, right? - Yeah. - So what Philly is banking on is unless Edmonton wins back-to-back Stanley Cups? - They're getting a better draft pick. - So they're picking at least like maybe late 20s? - Yeah, Edmonton must love the player that they have the potential to get here at 32 because unless they win the Stanley Cup next year or the year after, they're probably giving up a pick that is higher than the 32nd overall pick. - And they already made a first round selection? - Philadelphia did at 13. - Right, so, and they have two second round picks coming up as well. - Because they traded down, so they got an extra second rounder from the Minnesota wild even tonight. - So now they have potentially three first round picks next year, but they have four first round picks the next two years. - So it makes sense, like, you know, you're kind of spacing your picks out a little bit, right? And if you don't love the players that are here and you have two seconds, you're kicking one down into the future. Again, the only way you don't get a better pick is if Edmonton wins the cup and back-to-back years. - Yeah, actually, Philly, they got a third round selection from Minnesota with the trade down they did earlier. So they made a couple of trade down picks today did Philadelphia. Edmonton is coming to the podium with their 32nd overall selection after trading with Philadelphia. (crowd cheering) - The Edmonton players are proud to select from the London Knights of the Ontario Hockey League, Sam O'Reilly. (crowd cheering) - Strong Oilers suck chance. - Yes, I guess the rivalry is very much alive and well for the Vegas Golden Knights and Edmonton Oilers. Sam O'Reilly, the final selection in the NHL entry draft first round of 2024. Sam O'Reilly, according to the Elite Prospects draft guide, was ranked 48th overall by them in Edmonton, traded into the first round here to select the player. His quick synopsis, a relentless shutdown defensive center with physicality, details, and a clever quick touch passing game. So there is the scouting report on right shots and our six foot one, Sam O'Reilly going to the Edmonton Oilers. Had 12 points in 16 playoff games, OHL playoff games for the London Knights. And with that, it concludes our coverage of the first round of the NHL entry draft, Sat. - Yeah, no, fantastic. - A puzzling move by the Edmonton Oilers. - Yeah. - Edmonton going to Edmonton. We don't have a GM, this is what happens. You know, like you make puzzling decisions. - I don't know, you traded a first round pick for the last pick of the first round. I mean, the chances of your pick that you're trading being lower than that are quite good. - Now, they must really like this player. That's really the only thing to say. - Okay, the one thing I will say in their defense, in their defense, like the next year or two, the first round pick they make is like so many years away. Like, do you at least get a guy that can maybe help you down the road during this window? - No, but even keeping your 2025 or 2026 pick to use it to the trade deadline, right? - Yeah, it's weird. I mean, they must love the player, as simple as that, right? - Yeah. So, Sam O'Reilly goes at number 32 overall. I will have coverage of rounds two through seven tomorrow, starting at 8.30 AM. I know Josh will be here, Sal will be here, Bick will be here. Fast, Eddie Gregory will be here, so. - You will be here? - I will be here. - Okay, all right. - We'll be here. Probably gonna have some espresso to bring as well. - We might need it. - Wow. - Tomorrow morning. - Just don't get too jittery and spill water all over the place. - Never happened before. I don't know what you're talking about. - That would be worse. - Might need to bring those water wings back to work. All right, we'll see what the Canucks get up to tomorrow on day two of the draft, and we'll be a step closer to free agency as well. Hope you've enjoyed our coverage presented by Oxygen Yoga and fitness here on SportsNet 654 producers, Ben and Josh, my co-host, Sat, I'm Dan, and we appreciate you, of course, the listener here on Canucks Central on SportsNet 650.