[MUSIC PLAYING] We're back on Canucks Central. It's Dan Reachow, Satyar Shah in the Kintek Studio. The Roar is back at BC Place for the BC Lion's 70th season. Get your tickets now at BCLions.com. The Dunbar Lumber text message inbox is a buzz. Show is hockey Twitter. I joked about trades probably won't happen right on the eve of Game 7. And then guess what happened? Yeah, there's several reports of Liness Almar heading from the Boston Bruins to the Ottawa Senators. So we'll keep an eye on this. Ottawa is adding to their stable of 75,000 gold tenders, all making over $5 million. So this should work out for them. Steve Staos' first big move as GM should this go through. Or maybe Gary Bettman will veto it in defiance of them doing it on. A few minutes before puck drop in Game 7. All right, let's bring in our next guest. It is Don Taylor. He joins us every Monday here. On Kedok Central, and he has a presentation of Bassant Motors. What's happening, Donnie? Now much somehow, I think that Game 7 will overshadow all marks in the sevens. No kidding. That gets the thought. Ottawa traded for a guy? Well, nobody cares anyway. So that's usually how it goes. I mean, look, the excitement for Game 7. No trade is going to take away from a hockey fan's excitement for this Game 7. I mean, they're calling it one of the biggest games in hockey history. Connor McDavid willing the Edmonton Oilers back into this series after them being down 3-0. This hasn't happened since what? 1942 that a team has gone from 3-0 down to win the Stanley Cup. This is-- I mean, this is a big one tonight, obviously. Yeah, and I think what you said there is the scary part for Florida on top of the possibility of becoming historic, a historic losing team. You sound like a final, McDavid willing his way. I'd be afraid that he had no points and no shots in Game 6. And what are the chances of that happening again in a big, big stage like this? And then you've got dry side of light. Everybody talks about being hurt. And I'm sure you've had people on who have mentioned that. His hand or something is up with him. No goals in eight games. You just think things like that, those kind of streaks-- I'm not going to say futility because it's going one game without a point. It's not exactly a streak. But I just think a lot of averages says those two guys are going to do something special, but at the very least, at the very least, one of them. But yeah, it's just-- I mean, everybody for the last-- well, since Friday, that's all I've put with my kids with any friends, relatives. That's all they've been talking about is Monday night in Game 7. Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting because when I look at Conor McDavid and what he's done so far, I think we all agree he's the best player currently. And it might be the single most talented player we've ever seen in the National Hockey League with his combination of speed and power and obviously the skill that he has. But if he has a big Game 7 and they win the Stanley Cup, does he become immortal right away? Oh my gosh, that's such a good question. Yeah, one top versus multiple cups for your house and your auras and your lemuse and Gretzky. But just the combination of him, getting a cup for a lot of people thought maybe-- and again, it's not over yet. When a lot of people thought maybe he wouldn't, maybe he would become the next Barcel Dion. And that's not a knock against Barcel Dion. Wonderful player, wonderful person, but no cups, one of the best players of all time. But I think if you combine a cup with just having seen him play and just not having seen anybody like this ever, I think he would-- he would fit into that immortal category and just the raw numbers as well. But I think just upon, you look at those numbers, you include a cup there and just watching him play is such a treat all the time. No matter what you think of the Oilers, yeah, I think he gets into that immortal category. The series has been so fascinating the way it's played out. I mean, after Game 4, when Florida got stomped 8-1, I kind of felt like it was one of those things that, oh, they got a couple of goals on us and we just-- we'll win it on home ice kind of thing. Not that they threw the game or anything. It was just like, you know what, we're already out of this one. We'll save our energy and finish it off in Game 5. And the snowball just kept rolling on them. And Edmonton played maybe their best game as a team in Game 6 overall. But now I wonder if there's a bit of a let down here for the Oilers. You worked so hard to claw back into this. And Florida's going to have the same desperation level you've had since Game 4. I wonder if there's a bit of a let down here from the Oilers to start this one. Yet another good-- many of you guys make good points. They-- it's so true. Like, I just-- and I realize you have to do things physically. But just from a mental point of view, the Oilers-- you just assume this is going to be there. I think most people would say they're-- would say, hey, look, it's-- see, the owners are going to win tonight. Just saying they've got all the momentum. But that's what everybody was saying, you know, going into Game 4, going into Game 5, going into Game 6 about the Panthers. So now, how do the Oilers deal with that? That-- those high expectations that the Panthers were dealing with and didn't come through with-- didn't come through with all the way in Games 4, 5, and 6. That's really, really interesting. And I know I'm going to state the obvious here, but that first goal is just-- it's going to be so-- so big for one team and so crushing-- crushing for the other. And then it's going to-- it's going to create in-game momentum. But Lord knows you'd have to favor that team for there. But yet, that's such a good point. Now that the Oilers have to deal with the expectations that-- that I think the Panthers had to deal with the last three games. Is this-- is this a more relevant series for non-Hockey fans because of the intrigue of Edmonton coming back from '03, you think? Like, I know we started out talking about, you know, being called perhaps the biggest sound like a final of all time. But in terms of casual eyes, like, I do wonder-- It was a lead story on first take this morning. That's what I'm saying. Like, I kind of-- I wonder if this really is one that kind of transcends the game tonight, like, by the numbers even. Well, that's such a great story, you know? These sorts of comebacks, well, they don't happen in basketball. It's never happened in basketball. It's happened once extremely noticeably, not in a World Series in baseball. It just doesn't happen. And look, as it happened in a cup final, a team coming back all the way anyway since 1942. I realized there was a team coming back in 1945. They didn't win. So it's just such a rarity in sports. Plus, you've got the best player on the planet on display as well. And he's been absolutely spectacular, save game six. So there's a whole lot there. And the other thing, let's be honest, guys, it helps that in the States. This series is on ESPN. You've got Stephen A. Smith talking about it. That's a big, big deal. And he seems sincere when he's talking about it. That's a really, really big deal. And there's just so much history there. Will the Edmonton be the first team to win down '03 since 1942? Will they become the first Canadian team to win since the Habs in 1993? Will McDavid finally get a Stanley Cup? There's just so much there. The other thing, the Panthers, such a dreadful franchise for so long. Will they win their first ever Stanley Cup? A lot of history to be made tonight. Yeah. And I wonder, is this the biggest collapse in sports history or one of them? If Florida pooches this one. I think about the Yankees in what '04 with the Red Sox when Boston finally broke the curse and came back from 3-0 down in that series. 28-3, the Atlanta Falcons blowing that halftime lead against the Patriots. Or heck, the golfer and me thinking about Greg Norman at the Masters in '96. I mean, these are the best collapses or the worst depending on which side you're on. And in sports history. And I think Florida is in that category now. Yeah, they're definitely up there. Yankees Red Sox, although it wasn't a World Series, was big because it was the Yankees in the Red Sox. And that rivalry that goes way back. I think every sports fan was watching that series. Yeah, they were. And the curse of the bad beat. You didn't have to be a baseball fan to know about that. At least I don't think you did. That was such a big deal. And of course, recently with the Falcons and Patriots, I don't know if that was taking that category. First of all, because it was just one game. And secondly, it was the Patriots. And you just expected that even down 25, once they started to eat their way back, they're going to do this, and they did. So there was a level of expectation there, but the Yankees Red Sox, and I know the pitching matchups didn't exactly favor the Yankees back then. But there's no way that they were going to falter not against the Red Sox, and they did. And we all know what the Red Sox history was back then in terms of winning World Series. It was awful. But that was so big. But not a championship series. Not a World Series anyway. This is epic. And it happens at a time when there's more-- 1942, I mean, yeah, sure. There were the guys with the three guys in the dressing room with the fedoras and the little placards that set press on their hats. There wasn't as much coverage back then. Let's be honest. It's just massive. And it's getting all sorts of coverage because of traditional media that's so big right now, and because, of course, because of social media as well. And a big market in Miami, and such a sexy player in the game. But there's a whole lot there. It has to be right up there at the very least. Now, watch all the eyes beyond this game, and it's going to be the most boring 0-0 hockey game. And like a cagey affair. What's that mean? Isn't that good? Guys don't have the games but outstand. It's only been one bowl game. And that's it. It's been a tale of two series, really, in one. And the first three games were pretty lopsided in favor of Florida. And then it changed once the Oilers did what Gretzky told them to do in one of the intermissions of game one. And that's going for Baske's thick side. They've been doing that. And they've been getting to him. And those games have been one sided. Game five was about as good as it gets, but yeah, every other game was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what, it hasn't been like a static entertainment. I know I'm old. I don't remember 42. OK, so I'm not sure what it was like back then. But I think game seven at any sport is pretty special. But that's also to be honest here. 2019 was pretty good with the Blues and the Bruins. I'm obviously biased. You guys probably are too. I love 9/4 in 2011. I think I would have. In terms of pure entertainment, even if I wasn't a Vancouverite, even if I didn't grow up here, those were good series full of emotion. And hey, but it's not always the case for the game seven. I look back at some of those game sevens in the 2000s. They were really-- those series were awful. Like Anaheim, New Jersey, and Carolina, and I don't remember much. I got pretty good memory. I don't remember much. If I remember Korea getting hit by Steve is in that at a high devil series, that was a game seven. Probably that was a seven game series. That wasn't a game seven. But those series were even Tampa Bay, Calgary. There just wasn't a whole lot there. This has been pretty good. Just able to make the game a little alone. It's been pretty good. Yeah, it has been. And it really has been. And if we know a final one on the cup, because then we'll ask a couple of Canucks things too. But is McDavid winning the consummite then no matter what happens tonight? I think so. I think so when it's happened before, and they made the mistake of how I could encounter it today. It said he would be the first non-boltator to win the cosplay trophy from a losing team. And Reggie Leach did that in 1976. The Riverton rifle with the fliers. I believe he got 19 goals that season for the fliers. They got swept by the house. He still won the cosplay. So it's happened before. And if you're going to give it to him, if that's a precedent, I would think McDavid, you know, at this point, it was still a game to go. Fourth highest point total in Stanley Cup playoff history. That's pretty darn special. I know Bob Ross, he's been good. Barkoff's been good, but McDavid's the guy. And I think one thing that has really been special about his performance is he's just gotten better as the playoffs have gone on. You know, in my opinion, anyway, again, forget the game six for a second. I just think he just gets spectacular. And more so as the playoffs have gone on, he's received a lot of attention because of that. So I think when he'll lose, he gets the conspites and deservedly so. Donnie, I can't believe you said you don't remember the 1942 Leafs. I mean, still apps and gold up and Bucko McDonald. I mean, these are like the legends of the game here. Google doesn't count. I think database doesn't count. I'm sorry. By the way, take a look at the cup back then. It was a really, it didn't look like it did today. It was kind of skinny. It was literally just a cup. It wasn't like-- Yeah, it was, yeah. They threw a base on it, but it was really weird looking. I don't know what they were taking back there. Bucko, by the way. Bucko McDonald, what a player. Yeah. Remember that one? That was a dick dance. Yeah. Reg Hamilton, legend. All right, on to the Canucks. And nothing's really happened yet, Donnie. I mean, we've kind of been in this holding pattern of, you know, the Canucks still want to be in on guys like Jake Genssel and free agency. And maybe that's holding up some of their own guys, depending on what the money is going to look like. I know you and Dolly Wall talk about it pretty much every day. But is there a worry here, you know, because of the old ran at a time thing that happened with the Canucks just a few years ago? Do you have that same worry with this front office? Or have they built up enough confidence for you that they should have it in order? I don't know who ran the 1942 Leafs. I'm not really sure. But even if they were in charge, I'd be worried about the Canucks. Like, it's the Canucks, of course, where anybody in the Canucks nation is going to be worried about what they're up to. If anything bad can happen, it can happen to the Canucks. So, of course, and, you know, our understanding is that, yeah, they've, you know, they've made offers and they're standing tight at this point and we'll see what happens. You know, there's also the possibility, although I don't know what they give in return of grabbing Genssel's negotiating rights before July 1st. But you have to give up something. And usually that's graphics and prospects. The Canucks don't have a lot of those right now in order to get those rights. And usually if you do get those negotiating rights, you do sign the player. You have an indication that you're going to get the guy. So the team that he leaves at least gets something. But yeah, I mean, look, the ghost of Jim Denning, and I do have, you know, maybe more respect for him than a lot of people do. But that haunts the connection, that situation where they ran out of time back in the day in 2020, and that haunts the clock. So of course, people have to be worried about that, especially since the coming off such a positive season, the regular season with 50 wins. Yeah, strong playoff performance against taking a team that might very well win the Stanley Cup to seven games. What are you going to do with that roster? And if you do run out of time, you don't sign these free agents and you don't get Genssel, oh my gosh. Of course, people are worried in this town. They've been birthed to any times. Yeah, absolutely. I was going to ask you another connect question. I mean, actually, before we do that, though, we have a trade to announce. And it's not a Canucks trade, but the Boston Bruins have traded Linus Allmark to the Ottawa Senators for you and us. You want us Carpisalo was a first round pick this year, the 25th overall pick and forward Mark Castelik. And it is officially announced by the Boston Bruins. So this was kind of rumored, just like about an hour ago on social media, but now this trade just went down. And it's what, 15 minutes before Puck drop of game seven, the biggest game on the hockey calendar. Steve, Steve Steos is still pissed at Gary Bettman for taking away one of his first rounders for the whole Pierre Doreon. Oh yeah. Wasn't it of getting dad-in-ov situation that played out there with the fake no trade clause or the missed no trade clause? I don't know, whatever. But Steve Steos probably isn't happy with the leagues. Like, you know, I'm screwing you guys. I'm doing the deal. Yeah, already they tell you that there was somebody else after all Mark and they wanted to get it done. Yeah, I'm not really sure. But that's pretty unusual. Sure Gary's really, really happy. He's probably got other things on his mind right now. Yeah, a couple of things. Had to make sure a Canadian team doesn't win a cup still, right? Yeah. And how are you gonna handle the booze tonight in the half? You know, Florida three presents the cup. And Ottawa apparently retain is 25% of Carpisalo's contract as well. So interesting, big trade went down. So we'll see if we, I don't think we get any more trades right now, but it kind of seems like the league is locked and loaded and waiting for the cup to end for some real action to begin here, doesn't it? Or it's my hope so. Because, you know, like the Seneca finals, great, but there's been a lot of days where, you know, we can only talk about the, and look, or in his path is tremendous. And there's other things going on in sports. I realized that. But some more off ice move in the NHL will be welcome. Does anything to make our jobs easier, right, guys? Oh, hey, that's what we're, that's what they're there for, right? To make our jobs easier. You know, the myth of our business, and you guys know this, is that, well, man, there's so much going on. You guys must be super busy. Actually, that makes our jobs way easier. Yes, it does. You know, like, we want stuff going on. Are these stuff that, you know, we think our audience cares about. Yeah, and, well, I mean, when we have to think about what we're gonna say, that's, that's when it becomes a problem. Well, on the Genssel thing, I heard Dolly today mention that he was told to pump the brakes on Genssel a little bit. And, you know, I mentioned this last week too, that the Canucks internally don't quite feel like they're favorites for Genssel. But it's really interesting how the story developed, right? Because it wasn't just like us, what we heard internally about the Canucks being interested. But you heard, Dolly, well, I mean, sorry, you heard Ellie Friedman, you heard Frank Sir Valley, and people outside of Vancouver really kind of thought the Canucks were favored to get him. And now it's kind of like, hey, we'll see what happens. And that kind of shows you too how, as much as people talk about, you can only talk to free agents until you get to July 1st. A lot happens before July 1st. And this had a time of reporting, I think sheds a lot of light about how much actually does occur behind the scenes. - Well, absolutely. And, you know, the people who love this, when you hear all the Canucks might have lost out, or there aren't necessarily the front letters, there's other teams that love Parson Genssel and his camp love that. They want as many suitors as possible. If that includes the hurricanes and Canucks, and more people, the more the merrier, and then his price tag goes up. And then that's when it gets really scary for Canucks fans because the goes to Louis Erickson, you know, starts to rear it's like we had. So, you know, are you gonna overpay for this guy? But, you know, I'm sure Genssel's camp is loving this. They're not gonna, you know, commit before. You know, I wouldn't think anyway. But, you know, the more suitors, the better that his price tag goes up like he would with any sale in any business, with any piece of property if you want to put it that way. So, I don't think it's really that surprising. - Donnie, we appreciate the time as always. Enjoy game seven tonight. Thanks for this. - Have a good time, guys. It's gonna be, it's gonna be so much fun. - There he is. Don Taylor on Sports at 650. Brought to you by Bassant Motors, powering the playoff drive home of over 400 pre-owned vehicles and where the players go. Do you think like 78 years from now, hockey fans and radio hosts are gonna be looking at the 2024 Edmonton Oilers or Florida Panthers be like Matt Kachuk, what a weird name that is. - Kachuk? - Kachuk? - Who's this guy? - Who's this guy? In the same way that I'm looking at Bucko McDonald. I'm like, how is this a real person? - It's going to happen. - Who's being Bucko? - It's going to happen. And so it's gonna be like, you know, like, I guess a chuk guy had a brother and his dad played in the league too. - Hap day, he was the coach, what? - That's not a... - Hap? - Hap? - Yeah. - I'm gonna start going by Hap. - Bingo Campman. - What? - Bingo Campman. - Hey, what a name. - Just love looking at the old rosters to see the names. That's really, that's really what it is. - Anytime I hear Bucko, I think about like, somebody like, hey, listen to your Bucko. - Listen to your Bucko. Ah, that's pretty good. All right, they're going through warmies and Florida right now is game seven is upon us. This quick thought on this trade though, yeah, it's not a great return for Linus Almark. But it's goalie value, right? - Yeah. - They get a first round pick, which is nothing to scoff at. - And he's a year out from free agency, right? So that's part of this. You know, it's Corpusallo though. They take on four years. I know 25% retained, but I think he's what, four million a year, Corpusallo is. So by my bad math, it's what, three million still (laughs) that Boston's taking on for the next four years of a goalie who really had a down year. Now, you're the Boston Bruins, you play well defensively, so maybe Corpusallo has a little bit more success there, but he's gonna be essentially the new tandem guy with Jeremy Swamin in Boston. - Yeah, and Castellics, like, is there anything more than a? - Yeah, you know, like, it's the first round pick. But I'm surprised that Boston took back Corpusallo in this deal and didn't get more out of the Ottawa Center. - Yeah, it shows you the position they were in. - Yeah. - Boston, kind of, you know, no leverage. And also, like you said, goalie values aren't great. Like the Markstrom trade was, and honestly, I think the fact that Markstrom has term, an extra year at a lower number is a reason why they got Kevin Ball out of it. - Yeah. - Pretty comparable goalies, one's a little bit younger, but you gotta pay the guy a lot of money too, right? I think, I mean, I think it's pretty fair value for what goalies go for. And I think that should tell you a lot about if you're envisioning the Canucks trading a goalie, you can envision it, but you can be pretty disappointed about what the return is. - All right, we're gonna send you off to Sunrise, Florida, but I want to get in a quick prediction for game seven. How are you feeling about which way this will go, Zach? - I think Edmonton's going to win. I think Oilers win this one. - You're taking the Oilers. - Yeah. - McDavid. - Josh, you got a four, three panthers in overtime. - All right, all right, four, three panthers. - Over time, game seven. Wow. - Get crazy. - Back to the street hockey hey days, game seven in the Stanley Cup final. Zach, what do you got? - Four, three, Oilers in overtime. - Oh, all right, all right. OT, game seven. - Man, it's not gonna be a close game. I think Florida runs away with it a little bit, not for nothing, but it will be, it's gonna be an easy one, five, two, I'm gonna say for the Florida Panthers. - Yeah, I got the Oilers winning three, two. - All right, everybody thinks it's gonna be a one goal game, but me, we'll see what happens. We're gonna send you there in a moment. To play at the highest level of international parahockey, women need to crack the men's team. The feet only three female players have ever accomplished in the history of the sport. There is an equity on the ice and it tilts heavily in favor of men. The National Women's Parahockey Team of Canada needs to be recognized and supported. Now is the time. With your help, they can create a legacy of equity and excellence in the sport. Help bring gender equity to Parahockey today at wphcanada.com. That's wphcanada.com. For producers, Josh and Zach, my co-host, Zach, I'm Dan. Enjoy game seven on Sports at 650. - Hey, it's Viknasar. Have your say and join me on the People's Show with big takes and even bigger bets, weekdays, three to four on Sports at 650, or wherever you get your podcasts. (dramatic music)
