[Music] Can I? Central Monday. It's Dan Reicho, Satyarsha here in the Kintec Studio. Kintec, Canada's favorite orthotics provider, powered by thousands. Thousands of five-star Google reviews. Or feet. What are you waiting for? It is the best seven words in all of sports. Game seven of the Stanley Cup Final happening tonight. It's pretty great. It's fantastic, man. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what happens. Yeah. I mean, either way, people who don't want to see Edmonton winner will be happy. If not, at least you'll see something historic. It's going to be an interesting one tonight. Game sevens can always be a little bit cagey. We'll see how it goes. We're going to send you there to Sunrise Florida at five o'clock for pop drop of Game seven here on your homahockey Sportsnet 650. But we got lots to get into, including our thoughts on this Game seven. Let's get to it. It's the Open here on Canucks Central. Welcome to the Open. That's your home. Are you too good for your home? Answer me. It is the Open Dan Reicho and Satyarsha. Our take on the latest with the Vancouver Canucks. And the latest is, where are we going from July 1st? And not a lot has happened. Just like my Adzuri today said, it seems like the Canucks are leaving things late for some of their free agents. And we'll see what happens ultimately when free agency does open up. I'm not sure I even like that reference because that's like securing a draw in the last minute, which means things are so bad. Just getting a push would be you'd be happy at the last death. I'm telling you, the Adzuri gave me the achy that today. Pretty bad. They did. I mean, you guys are probably still going to qualify as a third place team, most likely. I want to think about that. But yes. But either way, but either way, feel good about, you know, getting a draw, right? They limped in. They did. But it was quite the finish. It was really fun to watch. I will say that. But as for the Canucks, and why do I say that? Well, I mean, we've heard updates about all of their different guys, Dora, Myers, Joshua, Blueger. I mean, go on and on. We've got updates about guys who aren't there, guys, like Jake Hansel and Tyler Tafoli now even. So let's kind of go through this and you can give us an update on where things are at here a little bit. Nikita Zadorov, we'll start with the biggest one. Just by the poundage, 250 pounds. Makes sense of man. Nikita Zadorov, where is where are things at right now with Nikita Zadorov in the Canucks? I know Dorywall today mentioned there was no real talk over the weekend. My understanding is, despite that, Dora has not closed. The question is, when do you get to that point? And I think they haven't gone to the point yet. I believe where one camp is indicated to the other that it's not happening. Whether it's like, hey, we're not going to meet the price or it's been, hey, we're getting, we're getting to July 1st. I don't think that has occurred yet, which I guess you can look at us somewhat promising if you are somebody who wants to get Zadorov back. But yeah, I mean, that's the extent of the updates that we have on Zadorov. Not a lot of talk, but the door has not yet shut. It's still in a holding pattern. It feels like for a lot of things with the Canucks and mainly because maybe there's a want to get some clarity on other things that are happening. And I wonder if that's the case with Tyler Myers right now as well, because we've heard and had this discussion of like, yeah, well, they'll get to Myers when they get to him, but it seems like both sides want to make this continue at a fairly reasonable price for the team. Yeah. And I think for the team, my take on the situation, and I'm not reporting this part, my take on the situation is the Canucks are kind of waiting to see how much money they can truly offer Myers. And that's dependent on some other things happening. And I think Myers is prepared to play ball, right? I don't know if they want to try to squeeze them for every last dollar. Let's say for instance, he's willing to take 2.75. Do they want to just do that? Or do they think, like, okay, we get other stuff done, we might even be able to give them slightly more? Or maybe it is 2.75. We don't know yet. You know what I mean? So I think that's my take on the situation. I think internally, though, the fear would be that you get to July 1st, is he going to be willing to play ball when somebody's putting real money in front of him, where so far he's willing to play ball with you. You haven't really taken advantage of it. You get to July 1st, as much as he wants to stay in Vancouver, as much as he's made a lot of money in his career so far, if you're willing to play here for 9 million over three years, are you saying no to somebody throwing, say 12, 13 million? Like somebody offers you 4 or 5 million more in total money than you're getting in Vancouver, which is, you know, 50% increase of what Vancouver is offering you. If that comes in front of him on July 1st, is he going to have, is he going to be able to resist that money to stay in Vancouver cheap? That's, I mean, it's a big question mark, right? You get to July 1, other teams start calling, I'm sure other teams have already started calling Tyler Meyer's agent, but what's the one reference point we have so far this offseason? For right-shot defenseman that we're about to hit unrestricted free agency, Jalen Chatfield, re-signed with the Carolina Hurricanes. Now, a little bit younger, so maybe you have to pay up a little bit more to keep this player and have him avoid free agency, whereas Myers is towards, while he's in the twilight of his career, he's made the biggest chunk of his money already. So situation is as important to him as making bank, but Jalen Chatfield's in 72 games had 22 points, pretty much, well, less than the kind of production Tyler Myers provided, only Dylan DeMello and Brandon Montour right-shot defenseman hitting free agency that scored more points than Tyler Myers last year. And I know this sounds crazy, there's a lot of people who've watched Myers here. If you can get Myers to a team-friendly contract, that's a bargain, you're not going to be able to find elsewhere. On the trade market, you're not going to find a player like him that's going to cost you less. And in a free agency, it's going to cost you significantly more. So that's the risk of running down a clock with Myers to July 1. Dakota Joshua, I've felt like this one is over for a while now. What is the latest with Dakota Joshua? The door hasn't shut, but I think it's dependent on money going out. And that money going out, it ain't happening right now, man. I will get to McKay of coming up and maybe I'm giving away a bit too much on it. Not to say he won't get traded, but Joshua's dependent on money going out. And that has proven to be a challenge so far. So Teddy Blooger, we've gone a while here without a Teddy Blooger update. It seemed at one point during the season, Teddy Blooger was one of the more likely unrestricted free agents, pending unrestricted free agents to remain in Vancouver. What's going on here? So on Blooger, I haven't heard too much about it, but that's the one guy I'm watching and wondering if they're going to need a center. The market, it's not going to be cheap. And do they work out something that makes sense relative to where the market's going to be? That's the one I'm keeping the closest eye on here between now and July 1. Maybe a small raise on what he got, but have to maybe tack on a year or two to the contract. Perhaps. I wonder if, because now I think he has a pretty good idea of what his market could look like as well. And I think for the Canucks, you're probably not going to be able to get a better price for a center if you can get him to somewhere around what he was making last year, if not slightly a bit more. So that's the one I'm watching the closest until July 1. So let's get to some of the fun stuff. As we know, like this big cloud hanging over the Canucks off season is Jake Genssel. There's been a lot of discussion around Jake Genssel in the last couple of weeks. I mean, Frank's Air Valley and others had linked to the Canucks and Genssel going all the way back to the trade deadline. Do the Canucks have a real shot at this player? It's an ongoing conversation. I've always felt from the get-go that the Canucks are probably going to have to give the absolute best offer to be able to land the best winger, potentially the best winger on the market in Jake Genssel. Yeah. And if you go back to last week where there was some buzz really percolating. Friedman reporting and saying, hey, usually Rutherford gets his guy and I'm not doubting them with Genssel. You heard Frank's Air Valley mention that it looks like Vancouver and Genssel could really be a match here once free just it begins. And when I started asking people around the league, that's a sentiment people had. People with other teams thought Genssel's most likely landing spot was going to be Vancouver. Yeah. And then when you spoke to people internally a bit more last week, I mentioned this on Thursday, the Canucks themselves, despite what the external noise was saying, did not feel like they were favorites for Jake Genssel. That doesn't mean like they felt like they were out, but they felt like, hey, we don't have the sense that he's coming to us assuredly and we don't know what it's necessarily going to take. But we want to sign the player. And as of today, I know the Canucks do want to sign Jake Genssel. The question though is, is he coming here? Yeah. Is he more likely to go elsewhere? We talked on Friday about what LA moving money out them needing a scoring winger needing a center as well. Does that all of a sudden open another possibility for Jake Genssel? Can Genssel get more term perhaps in Carolina? Are other teams now? And you know, there were reports that the Canucks were favorites. And then as you get to the end of the week, it seems like the Canucks are not favorites. Yeah. And all of a sudden other teams that maybe were weren't ready to show their best hand, maybe showing their best hand. And when that happens, the player has a lot of places to choose from. And I think that's where things stand with Canucks and Gens. So I think they want the player. The question is, where is that going to land? Look, it's a tale as old as time. The Canadian team might have to pay a little bit more than anybody else to get the American player in free agency. I mean, last year we had several players, not even American players that came out and essentially said, yeah, there is a tax for me to go to a Canadian team. Radko. Goodness was like, yeah, I'm good. I'm not planning in Canada. Ronald Riley, essentially it was going to cost a little bit more for me to sign with a Canadian team than it would to sign in Nashville. I'm not saying it's going that way with Jake Genssel right now. But it certainly feels like that could be part of the decision making process for Jake Genssel. And I do wonder, the Canucks have a ton of cap space. People know that they're aggressive, they want to add to the team after the successful season they just had. Are the Canucks being used as a team in the media as one that can drive up the price of some certain free agents? You can't dismiss that possibility. I do know that Jake Genssel, this is true and others have reported this as well. That Jake Genssel did want to come to Vancouver out of the possible teams after him at the trade deadline. He wanted to come to Vancouver then. Now, I know you've made this point. There's a big difference between playing somewhere for the trade deadline and signing somewhere else. But there was a real desire there and everything I've heard, and again, I don't have an in with Jake Genssel and his camp, so I can't tell you what he's feeling or whatever. But I have heard that he legitimately is considering Vancouver. The question is, where does Vancouver rank on his list of preferred destinations that are chasing him right now? That's the one we don't know. Maybe we'll find out a week from now. All right. Iliya McKayev. What's the situation here, Sat? Is it really any different from what we discussed towards the end of last week? No, not really. But, I mean, I think the situation told you everything you needed to know last week when the agent gets permission to seek out a trade. It means, hey, we've done our part. Yeah, about as good a guarantee that players not getting traded in the near future. Yeah, and that's not to say it won't happen, because again, you know, and that's not to say the connects are not, you know, open to the idea and may not be, you know, looking at it, of course. But I don't think there's the sense that anything is close and that it's not going to be easy. That's the internal sense. And the internal sense, too, is something, again, you pointed out a lot. There's a big bounce back factor with McKayev, and the profile of player is still something this organization values. So, much like you saw with Garland, much like you saw with Besser, the Canucks, I don't think right now are willing to attach any asset to move him and feel like it's going to bounce back next season, at least to some extent. The Connor Brown situation, I mean, we see how good he started to play for the Oilers here as the playoffs went on, had a similar injury to Ilya McKayev, finally finding his game a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if Ilya McKayev finds his game to be in a much better spot next season than where it was at for pretty much the second half, the entire second half of this past year. So, the question we've gotten a lot on the Dunbar Lumber text message inbox, we got W on Twitter asking us as well, because it seems as though the New Jersey Devils are, I mean, they're the favorites to land Brett Pesch in free agency. Now, they have Dougie Hamilton coming back. He's a right shot defense when making a lot of money. They're going to have to pay Brett Pesch a lot of money to land him in free agency. So, what does that lead to with John Marino, who is a right shot D making $4.4 million against the cap? Could John Marino, I mean, it feels like an inevitability should New Jersey land, Brett Pesch, and John Marino would be available in trade. Three more years of $4.4 million. We know the Canucks have been around Marino in the past when he was traded from Pittsburgh to New Jersey last time the Canucks were involved. Now, listen, I can't tell you for a fact that the Canucks offered a third round picking Rathbone, but there was this belief that that may have been out there. Now, he got traded for a third and Ty Smith. And I do remember Jim Rutherford even saying, they tried to land some defensemen, but they just weren't able to for a varying amount of reason. Yeah. And if you look at that trade package, it's very similar anyways. But nonetheless, they didn't go above, obviously, a third round pick. So they did not acquire John Marino, but they were interested in the past. I would imagine they've checked in. I just have a hard time seeing it though. I just have a hard time seeing how it's going to work. Now, the ideal world is you trade me. Yeah, it works out. You could put Quinn using John Marino together. I think it would look pretty good. I mean, yes. Like even Carson Susie and John Marino would look pretty good together. Yes. Yes. Touche. You're right. I mean, in terms of making the trade work. Right. Okay. I just don't know how you make the trade work. I like the player. I'm with you. I like the player. I think 4.4 million in and of itself actually is not a bad number either for right-hand defensemen. But considering where the Canucks are at and how much they're spending on her own it now and like trade is in does New Jersey have what Vancouver wants? Does Vancouver make sense? I mean, yeah, like for instance, you have what they want from Vancouver. What connects through Miquea for Marino probably signed like in a heartbeat. But why would New Jersey do that? Yeah. Yeah. They're not doing that. Right. So and Marino, again, a righty defensemen played over 20 minutes. Big penalty kill player had over 220 minutes on the PK last year. Like he's he's a player who plays in a lot of situations. Not a good year, but nobody on New Jersey really had a good year last year either. Right. So the cost I don't think is going to be cheap. So then it brings us to what's the cost for him? The connection will have draft picks to trade away. No. So I'm telling you put Colson Rottu and these guys aren't getting it done. No. So they're not going to get you. And that's pretty much it. Nils Hoaglander. Not even like Connor Garland? I mean, again, like does New Jersey want to add money or do they want to get off money? They probably want to get off money. Right. So then yeah, Garland makes more than John Marino. That probably doesn't make sense for them. But let's say even if it's Garland, even if it's Hoaglander, and I'm not against trading either. You know what I mean over the years, what I've said about both players. But Garland, I think has, honestly, guys, like I haven't heard anything about Garland. Like, you know, in terms of trades or whatever, like I think organizationally, they're very happy with how he played. I think they look at him as somebody can hold down the third line, no matter who he plays center with. More valuable on our team than he is in trade. Yeah. I think that's kind of the acceptance around him now. Anything can change, right? But I don't get the sense at all that the connection is shopping Connor Garland. Yeah. Mikaya, yes. But then again, they're not going to take Mikaya. But let's say it's Hoaglander or Garland. Even if you trade one of those guys, you still have to replace the other guy. Now you need more forwards. Right. And that's a problem for this team. Like, already forward needy team now needing more forwards to add after you've made a trade like that. Let's say you do it for Garland at least gives you enough caps. Like you actually gain cap space if you do that trade. Again, I don't see that happening. But let's theoretically you gain cap space. That would give you some more options. But if you do Hoaglander, you're still adding 3.3 million on your cap, plus you have to replace Hoaglander in the top nine. So just don't sign Tyler Myers or something to that effect. But yeah, I mean, would you rather trade for Marino and have the three years of 4.4 and trade away a Hoaglander to do so? Or just sign Myers to like 3 million for two years or whatever it is. So Myers is going to cost less and it doesn't open up another hole in your lineup. Yeah. Plus, you're not giving up an asset either. Right. And I don't know if the Canucks don't have enough trade assets as it is, right? Like if it is Hoaglander, for instance, that's your one ticket you have left right now. Like that's the piece, you know, he's a sell, he's a potentially sell high piece for the team this offseason. And he's also a player making 1.1 who scored 24 goals last year, who can at least play a top nine role for you next season. Yeah. And the Canucks don't have anybody knocking on the door next year. That's going to replace his production if you can score 16 goals even, right? Yeah. So I just don't see the fit trade wise for Marino. I like the player. I just think any trade that makes sense with Vancouver doesn't make sense for New Jersey and vice versa. Not a great trade partner. So we know famous last words, watch some trade for him. Yeah. As soon as we get off the air tonight, well, it's going to be game seven. I don't think anybody's making trades after five. What a bold call that would be by all of you. You know what? Right before Puck drop, John Marino for Neil Soglander. Yeah. So a lot of what we talked about today, it just are the Canucks undervaluing the market or are they just going to have to come to this realization? Like maybe it's going to cost more to get what we need in free agency this year. Yeah. And how do we make that work with the flexibility that we have available to us? I mean, it's fair. And I think that's the gamble, right? And I like not overpaying guys and holding firm. We still have to sign other players. Yeah. And that's why oftentimes teams get a little cold feet GMs will just hand out the money because it's pretty scary to stand somewhere and not know where you're going to land. Right. And the last thing you want to do is not have a seat. Yeah. And that's the thing that's scary. But I think the best GMs and the best management teams are the ones that can that aren't afraid of going there of going to that edge. I think this management team is one of those. We still have to pull it off. Yeah. Like I'm all for the strategy, right? Like it takes big ones, but you still have to be able to get it right. So they're holding the line as if they have some GameStop. Yeah. Stocks pretty much in their portfolio. Did you watch dumb money? Yeah. Yeah, it did. It's pretty good. It was decent. It's not that I did not have GameStop in my portfolio. Unfortunately, neither of them. It's making come back to see the guys back now. It is roaring kitty is back. All right. Enough of that. Game seven. We're going to talk more about it with Don Taylor who's coming up here in just a little bit. Game seven Edmonton is clawed back into this thing down three. Oh, it felt like an inevitability. They blow the doors off of Florida and game four. Florida wasn't just doing the Boston Celtics thing, the gentlemen sweep because then they go ahead and lose games five and six. And now it's squeaky bump time. Okay. Now it's game seven Stanley Cup final for all the marbles. I just wonder like I was thinking about this so much over the weekend. Is this now a let down spot for the Edmonton Oilers? You worked so hard to get back into this series. Claude tooth and nail. You had a couple of McDavid legacy type games. And then game six, you put together this Picasso. Like as a team, you played incredible defense, gave Florida barely anything had it comfortable for much of the night. But now Florida is going to have that same desperation level you've had for the last few games. I just I have this eerie feeling right now that it's a it's a let it's a bit of a let down spot for the Edmonton Oilers. Man. So I honestly don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, like honestly, I don't have the beauty of it. Exactly. Now I picked Edmonton to win in six. So them winning in seven. Hey, Edmonton wins, but I don't know if I don't really want to be honest. Like I don't sit there and cheer for them to win. And again, like I've always had a hot soft spot for Edmonton. I like I don't mind Edmonton as a town. I like a lot of their players. I think McDavid's awesome. I think dry settles an absolute horse. I just don't know if I want to see them win the Stanley Cup this year. To be honest, but how do you bet against McDavid with how he's gone and the winner take all game? That's ultimately where I stand on this right now. Like I don't know what's going to happen, but I have a hard time betting against McDavid in one game right now. Like I think that narrative can sometimes be overrated, but the way he's gone in this Cup final, and this is like the moment. Like these are the moments like the best players of all time shine in. Like these are the moments that legends become, you know, more like more like this guy is going to go down in history as perhaps the best player of all time. If he just wins a couple of cups and goes crazy here in game seven, right? So I just I just wonder about that. And I have a hard time betting against Conor McDavid in this game. The way he played in games four and five or sorry, five and yeah, four and five was just, I mean, at eight points in the two games remarkable that he didn't have a point in game six and they won as comfortably as they did. But of course, this feels like McDavid's potential legacy here in game seven and he has the most to gain. I don't know if he has a ton to lose to be honest because he willed the Oilers back into this series to get them to a point of a game seven. Like he's winning the cons might like Gavin from White Rock. Others are texting and like he's winning the cons might. Yeah. I mean, it's it's mainly because nobody on Florida has really stepped up in the series. No, and and like what like would if Barkov has a hat trick and they win perhaps, but even so, but even so, I think with what McDavid has done, them coming back and being all three down him, breaking records, scoring in the playoffs too. I I'm definitely going to be watching to see some of the calls from the officiating tonight. I said, are they going to call anything? I don't know. But Gary Bettman today was on ESPN and just like, I think he was asked like, why is Canada? Why is the Canadian team not want to come in 30 years and unprompt that he brings up, like, oh, there's a bunch of conspiracy theorists that think I'm the I'm the reason Canada hasn't won a cup since since I was first in the league in Montreal, Canadians won. Why would you bring that up Gary? Just just out of curiosity. Why? Why? Like that sounds like somebody like denying something that they didn't really need to deny. All right. All kidding aside, game seven, going to be unreal tonight. Don Taylor's going to join us next. We'll talk more about that and the Canucks offseason next on Canucks Central. Cast app. [BLANK_AUDIO]
