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I'm excited. I'm doing wonderful. I mean, I don't think you had appeared for NWA after we last talked. I don't think you had for maybe a little bit prior to that as well. So I'm interested to learn, like, what the heck happened first off? And like, at what point did you make this decision? Because you hadn't appeared there in quite some time. So yeah, so there was, I will say, yes, I am no longer part of the NWA. Before I say anything, I will say, obviously, as I posted, like, I have learned a lot there. So I am very blessed for any experience that I have had there, because it's taught me so much. And all the fun jazz, right, before I get so sappy. I'm not being on sappy things, so. No, buried in. Yeah, every once in a while, I'll get on my feels, but no. So pretty much NWA, right? There was one of the shows I wasn't able to get to for personal reasons, but then after that, I did do a set of tapings with them. And they haven't aired those matches, which I was really surprised at. So there are some secret Mr. Kate matches in the archive of NWA. One was against Kenzie Page. One was against Ella Envy. And I mean, I was proud of those matches. I had a really fun time with them, and it was really exciting. So that I don't know what happened to them. I don't know why they got posted. As far as me not being a part of them anymore, I wish I could have some cool, exciting story where I'm like, screw them. I hate this place and throw my towel and leave. But honestly, it was just end of a contract. And as far as I know, we left on good terms. You took a stand against cocaine use on screen. That is right. That is right. You only do that in the privacy of your own home. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. No, but yeah, so I wish I had some really fun, exciting story, but ultimately, that's what I came down to. I don't know. I'm Marin. I don't know. I was surprised that I wasn't invited back to the pay-per-view or another set of tapings. That surprised me. And when asked, I didn't get any negative feedback. I mean, it was just kind of like, oh, just not happening this time. And I was like, okay. I mean, you were very consistently featured, if not in title matches, then in like top contender matches, whether it be the women's world title or the tag titles in general, it felt like it felt like for a better portion of like seven, eight months, like every single match that you were having was like top contender match or title match. Right. And then I had an intergender match with sale the pale, which was really fun. So I was just like, yeah, there's a lot of good stuff happening. And I don't really know. I mean, there's always going to be rumors and speculations, right? But to me, I'm like, unless I'm hearing it from the head of the horse, I'm not going to believe the ass. So, yeah, I don't, I was, you know, like how you're saying, there was a lot of cool stuff happening while I was there, obviously, like there was a rents and clear now, but I tagged with Maddie or Kowski without the tag belts there. It was always fun, like trying to talk to Billy, try to figure out storylines and stuff. And I guess he always didn't see like certain things or certain ideas were like in his vision currently, which I was like, okay, I'm not, he's the boss. I'm just here, right? But I constantly tried giving ideas because I'm like, that's, that's what I love. I love telling stories. That's why I got in a wrestling. So even after Maddie got signed to WWE and she wasn't a part of NWA anymore or run now, sorry. I still tried pitching certain things and he was just like, eh, like he's just like not right now, right? Not a bit. Whatever. I was like, okay, cool. And then eventually when I did the Joker for NWA for the Halloween show, again, Billy being Billy, right? The season's all the weird, wacky stuff, he's like, okay, I could do something with that. I was like, cool. Let's go. I love the Joker. We'll figure it out. So that was kind of the direction that we were going or trying to tell stories of Miss and, you know, Joker and is that taking over her and stuff like that? So there was like a promo video posted of me beating up some guy in an alley and might have hit him in the head with the brick, but we don't know because, you know, the foot was, uh, so we'll never know, there's no real evidence you can't blame me. Yes. But yeah, it's just, it was kind of going in that, in that direction. And the last two matches that I had there kind of were, um, establishing that a little bit more. So I'm kind of upset that I don't get to see those only because I was really excited from a, like a learning aspect, you know, because again, I want to tell stories. So I'm like, I want to, no matter where I work, I want to do everything I can for that company to, you know, just, I don't know, that's the whole point I'm in wrestling, right? You want to tell stories. You want to entertain people. Um, so I was really excited to see how those turned out because they're really fun matches and there were people I will say that were saying how proud of them of me and like just us as like, you know, just, uh, having the match and then just proud of me for the character that I, you know, I'm getting on my comfort zone. Yes. Um, so yeah, and there weren't just my friends too. That's how you know it's real. It's, it, when you have other people coming up to you that aren't just like your little buddy being like, Hey, good job. Like it was like people of all different areas, um, so that's what made me really excited to see it. Cause I was like, okay, cool. There's people that I don't talk to on a regular basis here and something stood out to them where they're like, Oh, that was really cool. And that was really gross. Like that was really fun. So, yeah, I don't know. So we'll see if they ever air on, but so, I mean, you said that you feel like you left on good terms. Was there any, was there ever a period that you were like, okay, well, maybe this is headed down a road where our relationship was ending? I mean, obviously you had a massively successful tag team there with, with Matty. And there was, I think there was a gap between your all's last match together and her getting signed, but like obviously that, that was a hit in that company and it worked really well. And that was a year ago. Now you were champions, like, was there a period throughout there where or after that you were like, okay, maybe they're wrapping me up or maybe this passion, drive and patience. 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But I would, again, consistently trying to pick Billy's brain. So at that time, it's like, okay, what's going to happen, I guess, is where I was at? Billy and I have good communication, as far as I knew, anytime I saw him about giving him ideas and whatnot. He was willing to listen, it was, again, it was just a matter of his direction and where he saw things. So after she left it wasn't so much there, I was just kind of like, okay, what do we do with me now? I wouldn't say it wasn't until recently the last show I wasn't invited to. That's where I was just like, okay, what happened? Like what did I do? Like just let me know, but again, it could have been something as simple as I wasn't in his vision and that's fine. But yeah, nobody's ever contacted me saying anything bad. I'm more than willing to listen, obviously. Did you have a conversation or did your deal just come up or did you all like sort of have a conversation and it's like, okay, well, see you down the road. Yeah, it just, the deal kind of came up. I kind of, you know, I saw the writing on the wall and like, well, if you're not asking for me back, obviously there isn't going to be any discussion further, which again, I've always been like, I'm never going to stay where I'm not welcomed. That's, I don't want to say that's what it was, but that's the kind of feeling that I got obviously after you don't get asked back. But yeah, I was never, you know, it's kind of like, if you don't see me as part of your product, you don't see that I can benefit you in any way. Yes. And that's kind of on you, you know, and again, I'm not, you're paying my bills. You're my boss. So if that's your view and so be it, but yeah, I don't, again, we'd have to, you have to get Billy on here and ask him. I don't know if it'd be my show anytime soon. Oh, yeah, after these. Well, no, not after those. It's a couple of years ago. I said, why the hell are, why is Tyros winning so many matches? What is going on? I should not be able to wrestle better matches than this person featured on your show. And then he put the world title on him the next month and I was like, oh, boy, but like, listen, that is, oh, I generally enjoy the NWA programming. That was just one glaring thing that I was like, listen, I get the Fox News connection. I get the promotion aspect of it. People watching the show should not be able to have better wrestling matches than the world champion on that show, which leads me to a very important question. Mr. Kate, what's your problem? What's your problem? What's your problem? Where were you? February 23rd, 2024. Do you know where you were? I was with you, right? Or didn't we? Wasn't that? No, no, no, I'll tell you where you were. You were at the Burwin Eagles Club. You were you teaming with that night with the way what you said was the last part. You're at the Burwin Eagles Club. Who were you teaming with that night in a Burwin Street fight against Heather Mackenzie against Heather Reckless and Maggie Lee? What do you mean? What's my problem? That's my problem. She beat me in a Burwin Street fight about three months before that and you're just out here willy-nilly teaming with Shaza Mackenzie in Burwin Street fights. I need you to look at the winning record. You look at my ass with a kendo stick all around that venue. It was embarrassing. She broke my knee with her ass. That was a thing that happened. Wow. And you're just out here. I now it's before you and you and I met and we did our first interview, so I'm going to let it slide. I'm just disappointed. So now does this mean? Not angry. Do you have a Burwin Street fight? Like I feel like you're so-- I hope not. I hope not. I don't want to get my ass kicked again. Listen, I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. Well, I promise I won't break your kneecap with my ass because Shaza is packing a little bit of a dump truck back there that I'm very jealous of. So that won't happen on my ass. I thought that an atomic drop would work. It didn't. And I liked it a lot more last year when you were beating her up in matches. That's my preference if you could simply just do that. Although I did try to get her to take the bumps for me in the Effie match in return from me sponsoring her visa. We'll see how that goes. I mean, we all know everyone in wrestling's a frenemy. Everyone in wrestling's a frenemy. So one day, we're going to stand up to beat up friggin' Maggie and Heather. The next day, we're going to beat each other up. Who knows? Just disappoints me. I mean, almost as disappointed. You'll get over it. You'll get over it. Cry me a river. Here's the world's smallest violin. Let's go. Let's go. That's almost as disappointing as the last place Chicago Cubs, of which you are a fan of when I met you at the Chicago Cubs jersey on, I said, man, it's going to be a rough season for you. The Cincinnati Reds are a half game ahead of last place right there. But there are some little things that I would hear when poking around when I'd be like, miss a case of free agent. Is this person interested, this company interested? I had heard maybe there was some interest on TNA side. I don't know what you can say if anything or if you can just shoot me one of those looks and maybe I can presume it, write a big clickbait headline off of it. One of those. But have you had any conversations and did Gail Kim say anything nice about me? Well, since we're going there, let's just say when the first day that I announce I was no longer a part of NWA, I took, I don't want to say two days ago. Two days off, but I was very, I didn't know how the news was going to be. So let's just say Jordan was working very hard for me those first 48 hours. He earned his paycheck and I will say I've been having conversations. There have been conversations had with multiple people over multiple things. Now, where and who, you're just going to have to keep watching and waiting to find out. Okay, interesting, interesting, well, hmm, I bet, you know, I bet what happened. I bet they looked and they saw that you team with Shaza and they're like, no, no, it's because they saw as a Cubs fan. That's why that's really what happened. Probably. Probably. I can't scroll the loser. She likes the Cubs get out of here. Get out of here. Oh my gosh. I mean, you did see Maddie, who is now Rins and Claire, get signed and anybody that's seen her knew that she would fit specifically well at NXT as well. Like a glove. What were your feelings when that happened and do you all still keep in touch or is she just letting the fame get to her head? Oh, she's so big time now. No, I'm just kidding. Um, no, I love Maddie. No, we'll still talk here and there a little bit. Yeah. No, we'll still talk. We'll check in with each other. So that's cool. Like, in like, it was, and that's how I think a lot of people read that like, yeah, she was in Texas. I was in Chicago. So there was absolutely no reason for us to click as far as the tag team, but you could just see in the ring, like we're just for whatever reason. Um, I would say she's my Texas version of myself and I'm her Chicago version, but I'm a lot less filtered than her. You guys fit so well together on screen like you all complimented each other really, really well. I think it was like a lot of fun. And I was like, damn, we could have done so many cool things and like between me figuring out character when I was allowed to do character and her being her, obviously, um, yeah, we could have done like a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun ideas that I was really sad and depressed that that's a press. That's a strong word. But I was very disappointed that we weren't able to express that and show that to people and entertain people. But no, I was really happy for her. Honestly, like I, to this day, I'm like, oh, I'm like, you got this, like I'm so excited for her. She, um, she deserves it. She's really smart and she just, when her and I obviously would room together and we would talk about wrestling, I was just like, oh, like she understands a lot and she's taught me stuff. So, um, I'm really excited to see what they do with her. I know she just on NXT, she saw something that she wasn't supposed to see. I want to know. Yes. I'm a bad packster. I'm going to be like, so can you tell me, like I'm I allowed to know? Um, but, yeah, no, it's, it's really cool and I'm excited to see what the future has for her and who knows maybe one day down the road at 95 might reunite. Um, there's a bunch of forbidden doors being open. I was going to ask about that. Like it isn't something like I'm not like asking you to be like, oh yeah, guys, please team us up again. But like, is that something that would interest you? I mean, you are a free agent at this point. Oh, 100%. No, I tag with her any day, like she, it's fun. Um, I appreciate and respect her opinion when it comes to matches and stuff like that. Um, and like promos and like how you said, like it's fun trying to bounce stuff off of each other. Um, and especially we've kind of like we've grown closer a little bit. Um, like we're kind of close there, but like just the fact that we still keep in touch. Um, like to me says something. So, uh, I think especially with the analysis she has now, the knowledge that I have now, um, I think it would be a better, more experienced and, uh, more openly creative, uh, M 95 or however you, I don't know how everyone to say that, but yeah, or maybe we just fight each other. Maybe that would be fun too, you know, yeah, maybe this is what she saw that she wasn't supposed to see. That's that right there. Dude, I like, so here's the thing, a story about that. I did not know that was happening. I don't, of course, I didn't know I was backstage and freakin sinister minister comes out, um, comes back there and he had like all this stuff on his face and me being me. I was like, huh, you just do coke or something and he's like, yeah. And I was like, wait, I was like, did you really? And like in the word, he's like, yeah, we just like did the scene out there. I was like, hold on. I was like, wait, I was joking. Are you continuing my jokers? What am I missing here? So I found out by sinister, coming backstage, it was face all white. Um, and I was like, oh, and then I saw the clips later on, cause obviously they went viral all over and the way does come. So unreal. Yes. We're there. You want that? Yeah. Yeah. A couple of people, I, I had mentioned them earlier, not, not just you teaming with Shaza, but that you've been sort of anchored to on the independent scene, Heather Reckless, Maggie Lee. It seems like, like, I mean, that, that scene had been pretty robust, like to have talent of, of that level, like, miss a K Heather Reckless, Maggie Lee, where a company could just be like, yeah, let's run that back. Let's do that. That's, that's pretty, that's a pretty nice thing. To have, it's a pretty comfortable thing to have. How has that been working with them so much because all three of you are standouts. Thank you. Um, yeah. Heather and I kind of started around the same time. So, um, that's always been fun, like, thinking back to us being super, like, green as gooshed as people like to say, um, in trying to figure stuff out and just trying to be polite and be like, oh, I want to, you know, to now where it's like, we're more established and it's kind of, we could be at that point where it's just like, what do you want to do? I don't know. And we just kind of like shoot the shit and we could put a match together and understand each other pretty quickly. And that's always really, you know, you have that, uh, comfort, I can't say words, comfort ability. I have a messed up accent. Um, I could blame my Bostonian stop father and my Macedonian grandfather, um, and then I'm from Chicago. So I'm all, I'm all. Man, you got everything. Dude, I'm like, yeah, if you're like, are you from New York? Are you from like, where are you? I was like, I don't know, man. I was like, pick a place to tell me. I was like, it's who knows. Um, but yeah, so with her and then Maggie being as new as she is and it's really fun when somebody's like hungry and, um, one thing I'll give Maggie is like, and I'm not saying, whatever about me, but she's always like, she's always asked me questions and I feel like she values my opinion because she still asked me stuff. Um, so, and I appreciate her and I being able to like just be blunt where, you know, sometimes there's, you always feel like you need to like sugarcoat because you don't really know people stuff like that or her and I, I think we have that understanding of like, they're both not covered in the same cloth, but there were those kind of tomboys were like, all right, like this is, this is dumb. No, like we'll be able to tell each other like, no, that'll make sense. Like, we're not doing that, like, um, so that's really fun. 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That does drastically change the Chicago scene, because any given night you can see a combination of you three, and then like Sierra or somebody else like that, just on a show. I can't tell you how many times I would see a poster and it's like, "Well, there you all are again and again and again." There has to be an incredible level of comfortability with you guys. Yeah, and I feel like when you know you're going to be around each other and you just kind of build that rapport with each other and we're just kind of like, "All right, this is how it's going to be. We know we're going to see it." It's not forced, because that would really suck. I don't go to shows or see a flyer and I'm wrestling that, "No, it's not like that. It's cool. What are we going to do this time?" So how am I going to mess you up this time? How am I going to punch you in the face this time? You also worked recently with Izzy Moreno, who got started very young doing a lot of different things. I honestly admire the way that she came up, because she got harassed relentlessly by weirdo online wrestling fans, and then she's like, "You know what? If you think I'm too young to wrestle, I'm going to go do jujitsu, and then I'm going to learn the media end, and then I'm going to do all this." As a result, she cuts promos in a lot of grown men twice her age and is now wrestling a pretty heavy schedule. How was that working with her? It was fun. I liked being able to play off of somebody, not taking shots of people, but there aren't a lot of characters on the Indies, per se. Like there are, but there aren't, so it was nice that, again, she is her amped up, right? She is a super fan of this, but it was really easy me when my character being a super amazing person, of course, like, "That's sarcastic or bullying at all. I'm an angel," but no, being able to play with that, and, yeah, it was, of course, like you get a little, I don't want to say nervous, but you get curious of like, "Okay, how is this going to be? How is she in the ring? Is it, you know, stuff like that?" But I wasn't really worried about it. I remember the first time I met her, we're at the ECW arena in Philly, and it's fun that we're working each other, and like right away, we kind of just like clicked her like, "Should we start this now? We're like, "Yeah, let's do it." So right off the bat, I was like, "Oh, this is going to be so much fun." So I definitely want to wrestle her again, because I think it was, and we have on her end too, right? Because she's only how many matches deep, even since wrestling her, she's even getting more experience, and now she's the mission pro women's champion. So she definitely have a little bit more confidence in herself, which she should. So because she's super great, but I definitely, as great as she is, I'm happy to punch her in the face any day, kick her in the face any day. So just, I'm looking for somebody, let's see in Chicago, she's in a win in Chicago. You got to win in Texas, but let's go home my home to her. We'll see how that's going to go. I mean, it's, I love seeing her do this. I love seeing her do it the right way as well, and she's doing so well. And when I saw that she was working with you, I was like, "That's also being in good hands and somebody that she can learn from." I'm interested. Who have you learned the most from in pro wrestling? I like that. No one's ever asked me that. Not Shaza. I'm not trying to say a generic answer, but I try to learn a little, I learn a little bit from every experience, whether it's good or bad, right? Everything's a lesson. There's no bad experience you're just learning. People that have helped me a lot, we'll say it, NWA, right? So like jazz, somebody who's helped me a lot, Sam Powell, Aaron Stevens, they were always there, and then Rob, he going, "I need time. I had a question." He was always there to help. So those kind of people, and then I worked at AW, did some extra work. I picked the brain of, "Oh my God." You worked a lot of people. Jerry Lynn. I just said Jimmy. Holy crap. My brain is like, I swear. Today's the first day I had coffee like two weeks, so I think I'm out functioning, which I do a little cleanse. Jerry Lynn, so when I was at AW, or like even now, like if I could reach out, he's more than honest. I gave me an opinion. Nick Aldis, when he was at NWA, and I've seen him in an indie show before he got signed, even, I will say even now, he's just, I'm very blessed that there are a lot of different people that I can reach out to and just be like, "Hey, get it to me straight. How bad was this? Where can I get better? What was good? Yeah, there's a lot of different people, and I think the best, one of the best ways to learn is by error. When I first started out, I noticed that I was wrestling even a little bit, like we'll say three, four years in, right? I noticed that I was wrestling a lot of people that were around my experience level or less than my experience level, or a little bit newer. So in my head, I was like, "Wait, how am I supposed to get better?" Because I always had the mindset, I had the jock mindset of, "I am supposed to sharpen iron," right? Yes. So, I didn't realize, again, lesson, right? No, those experiences, working with people that are less experienced than you, helps you tremendously, because now there are moments and matches where I'm like, "Hey, this went wrong," or like, "I know how to," I always say, "Again, I'm still learning, but I'm better at fixing things or thinking on the fly," or like, "I'm more comfortable in mistakes." Chavo Guerrero is another person, like a great guy, and someone to reach out to, and he did a seminar over here where I train. I'm sorry, Chavo, if I'm spilling your secrets here, but he said to me so. One of the things that he said that resonated with me was, he goes, "I am the master of mistake-maker. I am a professional mistake-maker," meaning he would give examples of different matches and like, he would make mistakes, and obviously, and he's like, "I was able to think on the fly how to fix that," or, "Because those mistakes happen, if they happen later on, I knew how to fix that." And that's kind of like when he said that, I was like, "Oh, so that's what that experience was for me. That was that learning curve for me," was, "Hey, if shit goes sour, like, I could figure out, I'm confident enough of myself that we can get back to where we need to go, because I've had matches with girls where they've been kind of like, not gloopy, or not by me, just so it's like, "I could not find even multi-matches, just statement made." But no, I've had matches, multi-matches, where again, you kind of have to, you kind of always have to watch. And if it's not my job, or my area, or my spot, we'll say, "You still need to know what's going on." And luckily, there were a couple of instances, unfortunately, that a couple of girls got hurt. And because I was paying attention and I kind of knew how to recover, we were able to recover and move on from that, so yeah. And you mentioned AEW, you worked with--manna, who's who, when you were there doing extra work? Nyla, Emi, Sakura, Julia, who has blown up, obviously, Ruby, I think, Anna and Ty Conti, and then Shida as well. Yes. Look at you, that memory, man. Good for you. Listen, I watched AEW Dark. I really love that show. I am a believer that sometimes you just need to see wrestlers do their cool shit. And I loved watching that show, I really enjoyed it. But obviously, when you're in the NWA, I'm sure that those opportunities to do things like that don't necessarily come up in the same way. Was that something that you sort of had to give up in order to be a regular to NWA? So yeah, that was a downside of NWA, because when I signed, at the time, they were the only one that offered me a contract. And it was, of course, universal, right? As soon as it happened, I swear, I was like, as soon as I signed, you have people like, "Hey, what's going on?" And I'm like, "Where were you?" Literally, like, two days ago. Of course. Anyways, yeah, when I signed with them, I was exclusive. So that meant I couldn't do any other TV work or anything unless it was approved, which it wasn't going to be. That was made clear. So there were things that I turned down. There was an opportunity, me possibly going to Japan, that I had to turn down. There were bookings in Canada, I do have a passport of wire, because I was exclusive to NWA and no matter what, if they say you need to be able to certain date out and have to cancel any other bookings, there were a couple of other things that I had to cancel, which kind of sucks for me and my business, right? Because now I kind of messed up my relationship with those companies, which I can't get mad at those companies because, again, that's their business. They can't promote somebody who's not going to be there and they can't try to bring you in if you're going to cancel and be like, "Hey, my bad, actually, I'm not going to be there." And when it's like a week out, two weeks out, sometimes a couple days out. So that was a downfall, being there exclusively. So hopefully, now that I have so much more free time and I'm, like I said, I'm really excited. There's a lot of the Japan thing. I've always wanted to go and train there and learn and hopefully that opportunity to come back up, which I believe it will, there was a possibility of me going to Mexico during that timeframe. And obviously, I couldn't go, but, yeah, to answer your question, I have long-winded answers, if you can't tell. I love talking about this. That's what we like. That's why we're interviewing you. But, I mean, as a Chicago girl, what was it like for you to work now, arena and wind trust arena, because I mean, was that something, was that like a goal of yours or was that just a, "Holy shit, this is cool." It was. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. The now arena, which is outside of Chicago, I am a Chicago girl through and through. So I was like, "All right, this is cool. Don't get me wrong. It's an arena. It's dope." But, yeah, the wind trust arena, that was, that was a big deal. And it was like, I was asked by, when I was on busted open, and Mickey James was on there one of the, you know, to say interviewer, but it's Mickey James, I can't say that. For sure. Right? But no, she asked me, she's like, "Well, how did that feel?" And I was just like, "Honestly, it just felt, it felt right. Like, don't get me wrong, indies is cool. It's a different intimate feel." And you get to interact with people right there and the kids, and you could go in the crowd, and you know, it's a different feel than when you're in an arena. Now you're in an arena, and now there's like, what, thousands of thousands of people there, and you're like looking at them up and down, and the cameras never caught it at AW, I don't think. But there was a couple times where I was just like, "I'm standing in the ring." I was just like, it just kind of feels right. Like, I don't know how to explain it, and not saying like in a, not in a cocky way, but like in a, okay, I want to do this. This is, I want to be in these settings more. So. Well, I mean, it was, I mean, that's obviously like a scenario that, gosh, you've probably played out in your head before, competing in a big arena close to home or at home and in one sense. Are there any places, or, or I'm sure there have been, or environments, especially on the Indies, because you could wrestle at breweries, you can wrestle at Eagles clubs. You never know where you might wrestle that you get there, and you go, "Oh wow, this is a cool environment for pro wrestling." So there were a couple that I have wrestled at, and then I want to say the places that I do want to wrestle at. I've wrestled on a military base. Oh, nice. That was really fun, and it was really funny, especially because, you know, on the Indies, how you, you know, you go to the outside, and then you'll put somebody, like your opponent on the fans to hold them so you chop them. Well, I didn't think at a military base, they're trained, "Hey, don't hold people." So when I want to go do that, I've never seen grown men run 10 feet back and say, "No, no, no, so quick in my life." So that was really funny. That was something obviously because it's a military base, so it was never early public, so you couldn't record anything. And then another place that I wrestled was an ice skating rink in Wisconsin. The ring was an ice skating rink, obviously there's like stuff down. Heather Reckless and I actually, you can see she threw me into a goal. She slid me across the ice and threw me into a goal, so that was funny. There's a venue here, TNA Rana, it's the Lexington Ice Center, and it's not on the ice rink. It's like in a small room off the ice rink, but they have Bible-themed mini golf there as well. And listen, I'm not a big Bible guy. The Bible kicks ass when you got a golf through it. It's incredible. You learned so much. I want to go now. That's very interesting. Oh, it's incredible. You got to get booked in Lexington. It is a blast. Oh, it won. God bless. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, they got Old Testament, New Testament, and miracles. I love it. All of them. All of them. I want to go. It's so good. You've got to try it. But yeah, other places that you'd be interested in. The one that means, well, two, but the one that means the most to me, because obviously I've been, you know, a fan of WWE. It's now called Rosemont, but it used to be called a horizon. For all the oldies, we used to know it's called a horizon. But yes, or I'll say to Reno, I'm sorry. I mixed that up. It's called I'll say to Reno now used to be called a horizon. Rosemont horizon. Yeah. Thank you. You know, you see, you get me. The coffee is on a downward spiral right now. I watched WrestleMania 13 too many times. I remember. I remember the Rosemont horizon. And 22 also, right? It was WrestleMania. I believe so. I believe so. I believe so. That's my lucky number. Born on 23, but everyone always took 23 because everyone's a frickin fraud and trying to wrap Jordan where I'm actually born on 23 because I'm born for greatness. So I had to settle for 22. Anyway, I feel kind of passionate about that. But no, so I'll stay in arena, Rosemont horizon, what everyone call it, that's, again, that's home. And especially because I've had family members work there. So I've actually gotten like inside scoops of the full arena. So it's like near and dear person with my heart for that. But then the other one, and it's going to happen, I'm putting it out into the universe. I'm going to wrestle on Riggly Field one day. I don't know how. Oh, that'd be great. I don't know how I threw the first pitch. I'm going to wrestle right where I threw that first pitch and I'm calling it. Oh, listen, I, I loathe the Chicago Cubs, but that would objectively be fantastic. That would be so cool. Would it be to have wrestling at Riggly, Riggly, frickin field match? I know Cody Rhodes a few years ago in AEW, like I think I asked him about venues he'd want to do. And he mentioned Miller Park and that's where the Brewers play and I'm like, I could just imagine Darby sliding down that goddamn slide and like hitting somebody or something like that. Yeah, I think baseball, baseball field stadiums are very underutilized. I mean, Jeff Jarrett used to run them all the time for his indie companies and stuff because of those connections, but I, I agree. I think Riggly would be great. Right. I feel like there's so, I'm, I'm, again, it could be, there's probably reasons I don't know about. I'm just a fan, right? And I'm just like, this would be a cool place. Yes. So I'm like, yeah, I'm surprised more like companies don't try to run on, which I wonder if it has something to do if they don't want to run the turf and all that crap. So I could see that also. What was it like throwing out the first pitch? That was just like, it was last year. I think you had the belt with you. If I remember. Yeah. It was. I just got notified actually on some thing on my phone saying I just crossed the year for it. Um, yeah, it was, uh, you could tell I was so giddy because I was like actually really calm. I was really calm, even though my parents, uh, didn't believe good parents, right? Um, they're like, you're not going to, you're not going to throw it from like, you know, the plate, right? Like you're going to be a little bit up. I was like, no, I'm throwing it from the mound. Like it's, it's, oh, you're going to miss it. You're going to, you're going to disgrace the family and I was just like, wow, nice to know you have confidence in me, mom done it, like my stepdad, um, but I did it. It was a little foul, but that was my fault. Ricky mistake. I looked at the ball. I knew it as soon as that happened. I was like, and damn it. Um, what on the outside, um, listen, listen, you could argue you stuck with a tradition. You hit him with the rookie of the year floater with that one. Who's that now? There he goes. The crowd. And she just goes floated. And there you go. We're gonna go with that, we're going to use that, um, but no, it was, you could tell I was like super giddy, um, because again, I went with my best friend since grammar school, my stepdad and Mr. Doug Simmons, who is my adopted uncle, um, which a few people know who Doug is. He's a personal trainer. He trained sky. He's trained Ali, um, he's a, he's a secret Chicago staple that kind of is like in the shadows and helps everybody, um, super good dude. Um, but yeah, so it was cool going there with people that have been there on my wrestling journey or life journey or whatever you want to call it. Um, but they were making me nervous. I'm over here like, Oh, this is really fun. This is really cool. They're like, Oh my God, aren't you, aren't you, aren't you scared? Like all the, I'm like, I'm like, what do you mean? I like all these people. I'm like, do you guys not know what I do? I was like, I'm afraid of people all the time. Um, I was like, you guys know I have stage fright. Like you're not helping, uh, but, um, yeah, so it was like funny cause I was like walking up there and I, even like I'll watch like the little videos and I'm just like, like a little kid in the candy store. Cause I was like, Oh, like I remember I was there like when the Cubs won the world series, like I wasn't in Riggly cause it happened there obviously, but I was right outside on the outside of a bar watching through the window, um, and like, you know, of course, Chicago girl might have a couple drinks with the bleacher and the bleachers there. And um, my part take, the part took in the snake, if you know what the snake is. Um, so yeah, so a lot of good memories. So it was really cool. Like being able to stand there. And I remember it was like really funny. You can go and watch you just see me like waving cause like, Oh, somebody knows me. And it was that day too. I didn't realize how many people that I knew were at that game. Yeah. So I got a bunch of messages being like, holy crap, I'm here. You threw out the first pitch. So that was really so overall, it was a really fun experience. So yeah, well, before we wrap up, please let the people know where they can support you follow you, keep up to date with what you got going on. Cause I get the feeling that before long you're going to have a lot of stuff going on. A little bit of futures looking pretty fun. Um, this is again, like I took a little, little baby hiatus, um, but it's going to start rolling again. I'm really excited for it. Uh, but yeah, follow me miss a Kate 23, my SSA, K-A-T-E, two, three, uh, Instagram and Twitter. And then I have a TikTok that I think is miss a Kate. I think I'm freaking hilarious. You guys know I'm freaking hilarious. So just go follow me. Um, I find you hilarious. I mean, you're only laughing with me, right? Not at me. Yes. Yes. Listen, I, I can't, I can't risk it at this point. I know where you have, you have where your allegiance is live based on, on your match history. So I'm not going to miss one. Well, match history. I'm from Chicago. I might know people of different areas. Um, but yeah, um, but um, yeah. So yeah, follow me on there and then, uh, I am actually going to be releasing new merch soon. Um, a lot of fun stuff coming up. So make sure I have it linked so you could go and you just click links and buttons and you'll find stuff and I'll be posting. So yeah, go check now. It's always great to talk to you. I'm sure we'll be running into each other soon. I'm, I'm at Chicago Indies all the time at this point. Oh yeah. You're stuck with me now. I'm going to annoy you for life now. You're screwed. Oh no. Until next time guys, we're out. What's next at Moss Adams? That question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future. 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