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You are on a hate wave for sure. - I hate hate wave, hate wave for me. - Hate wave for me. - Hate wave, but. - I have mostly good but some nitpicks for sure, but you, my friends, you can get it. You're a super chat and you're a humper chat at humperchat.com. Please leave a thumbs up on this video. It helps us greatly when people are looking for NXT reviews, they can come and find us. They can see our cool old logo, but they can see our cool new logo more importantly. So much to be had also on Fightful Select. Go to Fightful Select.com and subscribe. Boy, howdy, the contract news just doesn't stop on Fightful Select.com. There's also so much more going on, rights updates, more news coming out of the pay-per-view. John Cena's return. If you were on Fightful Select.com, you knew he wasn't Toronto first. So head over to Fightful Select.com and you also got me and Alex talking about how money in the bank was, money in the blood last night in a lot of ways for us yesterday outside of tiffy-witting. But we're a little bit more at odds because Alex is a endings pervert mostly and also just in general, if one thing sucks, then everything sucks. Where I have a little bit more wiggle room. But Alex, Ethan Page is our new champion. Yeah, but at what cost? Well, we're going to talk all about that. At what cost, the cost of my sanity, that's first. The cost of-- well, did you have your sanity this weekend to start? I feel like last night put us to the curve a little bit already. We were going into this compromised sanity. It is also, by the way, just very weird to be starting this post-show almost a half hour before we start our NXT regular post-show. That's just an odd thing. But we're going to take advantage of it. We're going to get into this. One title change. And some other really-- how many times do we say this? Great in-ring with stories or bad stories. That's the story of NXT PLEs. Then we always show us out. But here's something. It was five matches, two and a half hours, not three hours. So that extra half hour of not commercials really made this feel better. Yes. I'm so sick of the people, literally the slurping noises. And thank you, Papa H, for giving me five match, three hour shows. Oh, thank God. I don't have to watch more wrestling on your shows that you give us Triple H. I love you so much. I just-- like, you don't want-- like, listen, I'm not saying 15 is the optimum number. Certainly not. Seven sounds better. On a three hour show, maybe more than half of it shouldn't be entrances and video packages or for the cheapskates commercials. And this didn't feel like that. No, the pacing of this was a lot better than Match Order was really good. And overall, I think yesterday started with a mostly terrible first half of the card from a booking perspective. Yeah. And then picked up toward the end. This started with, to me, what was the match of the weekend and then kind of went downhill a little bit. And this is the second paper view where things just got weird. Like, some stuff was just plain weird. Yeah. Chris Perra says, won't be watching until later when I get home. Chris Perra was there. Oh. Perra is there. That was fun. I get it if it wasn't great on TV, but the live experience was really enjoyable. Toronto seemed to be having a blast. And that's always good. That rule is way better than the UFC apex, whatever the hell. I wish I could look past things and just have a good time. And say, oh, well, that one thing that happened I really didn't like, but that doesn't affect my entire overall enjoyment. I wish I was that person. I am very much not. And that's my cross to bear and apparently all of yours because you're watching me talk about it. Well, first of all, I'm glad you're not that way because job security, but also, if you were any other way, Alex, we would not be-- Right, this. Look at my earrings. I just keep going back to my earrings. They're so good. They're so, so good. Look how luscious your beard is. It's wonderful. Honestly, honestly, it's-- I've never been able to get the mustache and the beard to connect. So already, I mean, that's as good as I've ever looked. Take all the vowels out because you leveled up your facial hair situation. I did. I did. Tony P says, how was this better than money in the bank? Well, that's a very low bar to clear. Also, the NXT title match was good. I love the ego won it. Yeah, but like-- Unconsciously, he won it. My one complaint, though. Why did Sean stop trick from breaking the pin? Oh, boy. He wasn't trying to help ego, it seems, from the way he looked after. No, it was just a really terribly laid out end of the match entirely in every way. So yeah. It was weird because-- and we'll get into this, but I like Ethan Page winning. I think Trick desperately needs to be chasing. His reign was in the mud. He's great. He's over. The booking was not supporting his reign at all. So I think him having some juice behind him is a very good thing. Weird execution at the end of this. And Ethan Page, who I'm going to rave about. Having his finisher kicked out of and then unconsciously winning. Not the way you book like an incoming strong star who's great. Like, he's not compensating for anything. He's wonderful at this. Just let him-- let him max out his potential. Somebody in the world. Some wrestling promotion, please. Let this guy be what he's capable of. Doc Chris Mueller says, who made your no logo? It was of course, Lieutenant Photo. Doc Mueller, I'm so glad you're here because I have my What's Up? Jack Shorted? Very good. And Doc asks if we're doing puns. Well, heat puns, things that are hot, or summer puns, or whatever. Yeah, definitely heat temperature related. Yeah, yeah, heat puns. So yeah, well, Ryan Chikini says best WWE event this year. I'd have to go back and look at all of them. But considering how I feel right now, I would say that can't be true. But I don't know if anything was good, you know? I mean, night two of media, I thought, was pretty solid. And I'm trying to think if I could remember stand-and-deliver better, but that was one of those we could-- And it was probably better. Yeah, I feel like-- It had Elia on the card, so like-- Elia, that triple threat. Like, there was a lot of-- I feel like stand-and-deliver probably was. But it shouldn't be, because that's their biggest affair. Stand-and-deliver was to me way better than this. Now I'm thinking about what was on that card. But it's to each their own. I will talk more about everything else that people have been super chatting so far, because it kind of dives in a lot to the main event. Ariana Grace and Carmen Petrovitch, J.C. Jane and Jasmine Nicks. Ariana Grace, Ariana Venti, as we call her. Got a very good reaction in Toronto. That was-- or Toronto. That was nice. But one, when, like, pulled Jasmine Nicks' hair to allow Carmen Petrovitch to get the rollover pin, like, we'll reverse a rollup. It was nice. It's fine. Later in the night, lest we believe that, oh, this might be the beginning of something. It is 100% now, just for Toronto. Well, the beginning of something between the two tag team members. I mean, yeah, that's the beginning of a tag team run. No, no, no. There's no tag builds. Ariana Venti says, I cannot allow myself to be held back by somebody like you. And Ava says, great, then you'll you two will face each other on Tuesday. And she was like, she's really-- give her as many reps as she needs to be serviceable enough on the main roster she can tag with Chelsea Greed. Was my big takeaway from this. Like, also, this was the-- they called it the kickoff match, pre-show match, whatever. This is a perfectly fine spot to have somebody go over in their hometown for something that isn't the most substantive program in the world. It's like, I'm good with that. She seemed very genuinely moved, which was like, I'm good with that. So good on her. She's really got the character stuff down. And I'm looking forward to seeing how her progress in the ring comes along, because I think once it catches up, she's going to be able to play an excellent role on the main roster with or without Chelsea. I think she'll have a very fun role up there, especially now. Since Wendy Jew is a demon, doll, sleep paralysis demon. Like, I thought she would kind of be like another comedic shot to the main roster who could really go. But now she is a crazy little weirdo. Yeah, so there was that. Oh, also on the pre-show, the head chase you backstage is hanging out. And then D.A. Hale got a call from Riji, and he confirms that he is not actually going to be there. And yet, I still thought he was lying. As did I, yeah. That almost told me he was going to be there. Yeah, but anyway, I don't know. Maybe he's such a-- he's so dangerous, don't you understand that they won't allow-- Like, Jacob Fatu? Jacob Fatu, apparently less dangerous than Bijaland. Not allowed across the border. Yeah. I will also say this about Carmen Petrovitch. If you can bring a sword to the ring, bring a sword to the ring. Like, there are two people that bring swords to the ring. Nobody ever seems to have a problem with it. Bring the sword if you can. And Chase, you will talk about later, because that went in a different direction than I thought it was. I think refreshingly, if they followed up properly. Yeah. So best match on the card by default, simply because Obofemi was in it and won. But his refreshing did not have to see him keep track of multiple opponents. Yeah. And if you're going to have a guy who's literally half his size, get in a whole bunch of offense on him, then Wesley, quote unquote, the greatest North American champion of all time, though I would quibble, is the right guy to do that. You know what I mean? So the stuff that we saw-- and it allows you to see how Obof works in a one-on-one situation against a guy much smaller than him, which will be the case for most of his career. We can forget about-- he's had like 25 matches in his whole life. Yeah. So he's still learning, but he's in an incredible position and keeps getting better and better. At one point, he did not do an F5. He did a damn F50. Yeah. And F5, Kajillion. I've never seen a man thrown that high and that far in a spinny way. Wesley's got nothing on a couch. You know what I mean? But I really, really liked this match. I thought both of them were excellent. He really-- it was in the beginning just Wesley getting his ass kicked. And he plays a great baby beast in peril. I really liked the first hope spot that we got, where it was just like a cool spot in the ropes where he just-- he saw an opening and he took it. Like that's how that should work. And he was so, so great at being so desperate. Like, I'm never not rooting for Obafemi, but I was also rooting for Wesley in that moment. Then the tie turned probably a little bit too much. Like, I think Obafemi this early probably should be maybe a little bit more protected, but that's me quippling a little bit. To me, this was Neshah the weekend. I adored what we got here. Obafemi, man. Just yeeting Wesley a few times in this. And Alex, I'm going to have to ask you to get a vase. I'm going to need you to put some water in the vase. Those little packets of miracle grow in that vase, because I'm about to give you your flowers. All right. And I know you love compliments, so here you go. But it's-- I'll do it in a not that heavy-handed way. There are some people that you catch very early and are just right about. This is true. Obafemi-- I mean, Swerve is probably your best use case to this point. Obafemi, you saw that guy-- before he was on this run, he had two appearances in the one cool event yet, and you were like, that guy's a generational talent. And you were right. And it's been backed up ever since. And now everybody is on the Obatrain. But you saw it really, really early. And it was the same with Julius Crete. Like, you identified him very, very, very early, like that guy. I mean, they haven't done shit with him on the main roster. But like, there are certain people that you detect very early. I would argue Moose was one of them, too. He's the biggest independent draw since Cody, as reported by PhytheSLAC.com. So that's like the fun part of this, of reviewing at XT, I feel like, is when we get to see those things, we caught up with Tiffany, too, when she started to come along. That's the fun stuff. And really refreshing to see a one-on-one mesh. The triple starts have been really, really good. But he's so new at this and so early in cementing who he is while he's excellent at it. They're a one-on-one story where it's classic monster versus desperate babyface who's really good. Sometimes the simple stuff is just the best. And I would argue, even his moveset is actually pretty fundamental. It's just extraordinarily all done because of his size and his ability. So this was, to me, my favorite match of the night, my favorite match of the weekend for WWE. I haven't gotten to catch a button collision. I haven't collided yet. But this was, to me, my favorite thing. It's only a minor quibble. What's the sound of grabs, baby, quibble away? I mean, I thought maybe the finish should have been. Wesley does the frog splash. And he just catches him while he's lying there, picks him up by the throat. You wakes him up, power bomb. Like, him catching him by the throat and picking him up. And then immediately Wesley gets out of it. I was like, whoa, whoa, hey, no, that was special. That was a really special. I don't see anybody who takes a frog splash and ends up in control of the dude who frog splashed them by the throat. I've never seen that before. Don't waste that. Make that a major moment in the match, if not the finish. The finish is fine, he hits him with a power bomb and he smashes him too. No, you're right. You know what I mean? You're right. It wasn't as impactful as. Imagine that being a highlight of Obafemi going into Hall of Fame. That guy got frog splashed and then took the frog splasher by the throat, picked him up with a choke, slammed him into position of the power bomb and put him through the damn ring. Like, to me, I feel like there was an option for something really special to happen. And they just use it as a weird transition into a like reversal thing, so. That's extremely fair. And I like the idea of the person getting offensive being a frog splasher. Mm-hmm, yeah. Too shy. Yeah. So Lieutenant Colonel Foto says the words of Hank Hill, "Taste the meaty men slap and meat, not the heedy men slap and heat." Mrs. Lieutenant Foto is sometimes. Passion, drive, and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. Superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights, and more, whether you're into speed, power, or style, eBay Motors has you covered. 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OK. Ryan Chikini says this is open up, "OBA" and "TRICK" for CW. Oh, for the first CW show in October, or whatever that is? That could be. I mean, maybe if "TRICK" gets his title back by then. I mean, I guess "TRICK" could come after "OBA's" title, but that's not happening. So I don't know if you want to beat "TRICK" Williams in the opening episode, but you know-- If you were to be going up, losing to "OBA" and your way up is a pretty cool way. I guess. I mean, again, they made such a big deal about all these call-ups. And like, every time somebody gets brought up not at the royal rumble or at the draft, I'm like, what are you going to do with them, though? I mean, they don't even have answers for that at the draft. I know, but I feel like it's much more likely for them to have some kind of plan for somebody if they get called up at a specific time than just like, um, Halloween-ish. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel-- especially because he's not very spooky. He's not spooky, so he has that going against him, for sure. Right. But he doesn't have "TRICK" or "TREET" in the back. So it's a toss up there. Honestly, where does "TRICK" Williams go next question? Is a huge one coming out of the main event? You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of, like, what is he doing now? Is he just going to get his title back? I think he's got a face-eathen page for it. I don't know if he gets a hack, but an unconscious man took his title today. He should probably have an issue with that. Don't get me. But it does seem like they might have a Javan Evans title adjacent feud from the moment that got set up in the match earlier. But we'll talk about that a little bit. Yeah, this is true. Bad Apple gem tree beard says, "Ova doing a jolly little dance during his entrance before he's about to murder is quite the sight to see." So not only does he have the, like, the, hoo, hoo, hoo, whatever he does before he starts walking, when he actually starts walking, it's this. And I just want that-- whether you're the mother or whether you're the mother is staying alive, because it just feels like he's just jaunterly going down the sidewalk. And I want to know what's playing in his earbuds. I need that. I also meant to mention Mike Rome, who's now doing the NXT announcing really good "Ova Femi" intro, because I feel like the temptation is to go, "Ova Femi!" But he got this like, "Ova Femi!" It's really, really, really good. It has, like, some distinction to it. I loved what he gave us tonight. Yeah. Tim McFowl says, "Looking forward to the sourness, but I can't be sour." I guess what he means. You don't have to. I kind of love that show. It was a ton of fun. There was a ton of variety, stakes, the ladies killed it, and an absolute starmate performance by Jevon. Well, we are here to ruin that for you. But no, this is what I said this to you, Kate, before we went on the air. I said, "I'm going to make everybody hate this show. I'm going to make them hate me." And I'm sorry. But that is, one of those two things has to happen. Either I'm going to convince you to not like the show, or you're going to hate me by the end of this, because so end if the positive things I have to say about any of these matches. Because remember, and this is the rule, many of you have been here for months, if not years. If there's one thing wrong with the match, the match sucks. And I can't change that about the way I think of things. So if you're surprised that I didn't love this entire event, well, I'm sorry. But there's just stuff about this, including literally one maneuver in this next match we're going to talk about that still has me seething with rage. - It's so mad. - And it's, we'll talk about it in a second. I have entirely different problems with this, and it has nothing to do really with what we got in the rain tonight. My problem with this is there was, this was an incredible wrestling exhibition match. This was not a title defense. This was not a champion's first proper title feud. This was not a historic champion's first proper title feud. It was really poorly built, and they both showed up tonight. Like they were great in-ring, but you can't tell a story in-ring when there's no story to tell, because Alex, as we talked about on Tuesday, gymnastics. - Gymnastics, gymnastics friendship. Did you see the video package of Kalani and Solruka as training partners in the gym that they showed? Yeah, they were, in the hotel gym, they were doing like, they were each other's little spot partners, doing all these like fun little gymnastics training stuff, and like doing headstand push-ups, and we're little like, bring your legs up and then do a pull up kind of a thing. And then weird like isometric, like you're gonna try and like balance yourself on my body as I hold you up and everything, and they're just smiling to the whole thing. Gosh, so much heat, so much heat for this match. Which was made because like Kalani was like, I would really like to face my friend for this title. And they're like, you can only face her if you beat Ariana Grace, who is canonically the worst wrestler we have on the roster. And like, 'cause that's how they book her. So Solruka did that, and then they had competing vignettes were the same vignette, and the same vignette was like gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics, inspirational quote by an NBA Hall of Famer, more gymnastics. And then they showed them training together. There's no heat. It's not like, I wanna be the best. And if I have to go through you, my friend to do it, then I will. And I don't apologize for that. Not even that, nothing. - Well, Alex, 'cause they weren't friends until it was convenient for them to be friends. - So good, good buddies out there, competing. And it just, like, there was, it felt like they were both doing amazing things that I was watching and because gymnastics. Like at no point did it feel like they wanted to beat each other. - No. - Just felt like, like, I don't wanna beat you. I would like to win this match. If it's possible for me to win this match without beating you, I would like to do that. And that makes for a really boring match, no matter how many flippy-do as you do. - This was a story of friend gymnastics. This was gymnastics in friendship. This was, like, two extremely well-trained professional wrestlers that could do some amazing moves. There is, as an in-ring story pervert, it was hard for me to get into other than being impressed by the athleticism that was very obvious and incredibly well-executed. But it wasn't even a story of friendship, Alex, because they retconned the friendship to fit the story because they had no story. There's no emotional investment. The only thing we know about them is Jim. And sometimes nastics. They have one thing in carbon and it's a hobby. And there were no screen segments. They were never backing each other up at points in that, like, they're not friends. They just put together a video package 'cause there was no story to this, which is unfair to them because they're both very good. Like, "Soul Ruka" is great at this point. Kalani Jordan, first title feud, historic title win, great in the ring. I have no idea who you are. I just don't other than the window that we got into, I've had this pressure on me all my life and I'm gonna deliver again. There's no, did you feel like the pressure she was under was cracking at any point in this? 'Cause I didn't get that. No, no, no, no. Like, that's the thing that separates a really, that's what, for me, separates a very good match from a great match. Is that exact thing? And that's tough 'cause they showed out. This was a tremendous exhibition of athleticism at no point was it a wrestling match. Even the 450 buckshot Lariat was great, but like, there was no, I'm gonna knock your fucking head off. I don't care if we're friends and training partners. I'm gonna knock your fucking head off 'cause I'm gonna become women's North American champion. That has to be in a match like this and it was never in this. Never, not once. And I was like, I needed that one moment where it got chippy. Here all of a sudden, like, okay, now it's on. They never did it. It was like, how can we basically turn the phrase, friendship is magic into a wrestling match? And it never became that. It was just, like I said, a fantastic exhibition of athleticism. And I don't-- - There wasn't even like a moment before the 450 buckshot Lariat, which was cool as hell, where she was like, I don't wanna have to do this kind of thing. You know what I mean? There was just, because they didn't give them anything, there was no story going into this. So it was, I mean, when you start the program with, I want to draw a free title, right? I'm pretty checked out and you're not gonna win me back over two weeks from then. - I wanna draw my free title, Raine. Let me face my best friend and let us never at any point try to beat the other one. That's a recipe for some pretty boring stuff. No matter, again, how athletic both of them are and they are incredibly athletic. - Yeah. - Like some amazing stuff that happened in here. - And I think Solruka's a really good entering storyteller too, but she did not have a story to tell. Because even their friendship doesn't, there's nothing you could call back to as friends because they wrecked under the friendship. - Right, right. - There was no previous spots where one of them saved another from a move. And then this time she was gonna have to be the one to deliver that move. There was no meat on the bone for this. And there wasn't much they could do other than this. - We've seen Kalani be friends with two people. Neither of them are Solruka. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? We've seen her onscreen be friends with Tiffany Fallon and that fell apart because Tiffany Fallon, my God, I always do that. Fallon's anyway. Fallon Henley. - Can you tell him Henley? - And, and Thea Hale. And so like, so she was friends with them, but secretly off screen, she was best friends with Solruka is what was we, we are led to believe. You know, like, and I feel like that's weird. - Girls, you gotta assert your standards. If somebody's keeping you a secret, okay. That's not, that's not a good friend. But Alex, you know what it sounds like? - It sounds like we were not hooked. We were not hooked by this man. - Yeah. - But I can tell you someone who's all about hooks, and that's Matthew Hooks. A HookedInVoiceovers.com. We have told you all about Matthew Hooks before, okay? We have told you about how he can do commercial work and narration work and that he has this studio and that he's worked with world-class brands before and that he has this super cool website. And now I'm gonna show you that super cool website so you can go over and be like, oh my gosh, what a fantastic thing if I want to contact Matthew Hooks, look at this. Can you see it? Can you see it? - I can't see it. - I don't know. - I can't see it. - Can the audience see it? Isn't that working? - I don't, I don't know. I'm not, I don't see anything. Are you trying to show something? - I'm trying to share the cool website. Okay. - I don't see it. - Oh, there it is. Is that that? - Yeah, isn't it? - Isn't it? - Yeah! - I mean, you did-- - Yeah, you put 'em here. - Oh, okay, hold on. Let me get past, come on. Okay, let's get rid of this thing. I'm moving this out of the way here, hold on. Okay, there we go. For Matthew Hooks. There you go. - For Matthew Hooks. Voiceovers to hook your audience. His demos are there. You can book a chat for him. You can get a quote. You can learn about his studio, all of his vocal styles and genres. And you can check out his social media as well. Look at all these incredible brands. - That's amazing. - He's worked with. Read all about his story. Head over to HookedInVoiceovers.com. It's fancy, it's cool. It's an awesome site that was worth getting my screen share options ready for you. My internet is even holding up so you know it's a great site. - That is impossible, so. - That has never happened before. So it is a blessing to head over, to HookedInVoiceovers.com. We are big proponents of voiceovers on this show. We do world class work ourselves. We definitely don't do a bunch of weird stuff. We basically do the same thing. (laughing) But head on over to HookedInVoiceovers. Check out his fancy website. Learn all about his great work. If you need a voice for your business, Matthew Hooks is the guy to consult about that. - Yeah, I like this one. Love, Hooks and Lieutenant Colonel Photo should tag the AV club. It's perfect. - Yo, let's go! I'm so in on that idea. - That's awesome, let's do that. Okay, so let's talk about why I ended up hating this match. - Sure, that's what we do. - Early on in the match, Solruca ends up with Kalani Jordan on her shoulders in Poison Rana position. And so Kalani Jordan snaps off of Vicious, not Vicious, 'cause they weren't actually trying to hurt each other, but a very impressive looking Poison Rana. Okay? - Yes. - Later in the match, at the end of the match, she ends up in the same position and tries it again, but this time Solruca is smart enough to grab the ropes so she can't be pulled over. Then she says, I know what I shall do. Now that I have stopped her from using the Poison Rana, if I climb the ropes with her in this exact position, there's no way she'll try that move a third time and hit it a second, but this time off the top rope, that'll never happen. Oh, whoops, I lost. And one thing I never thought about Solruca before this match was that she was stupid. But the booking of this match tells me she's stupid, 'cause she already did it to you once. Then like two seconds ago, she tried to do it to you a second time and you thwarted it. So I know I'm gonna put myself in a position for her to do it to me again, but this time it'll hurt more. That's dumb, don't do that. Like apparently you say it's a callback to Bayley and Sasha, but the very important crucial detail that separates the two is that they, Sasha and Bayley, were fighting on the top rope and Bayley in an act of desperation, quickly got around to the position and hit the thing before Sasha even knew what was happening. Like literally Kalani, she's like, oh my God, she's lifting me up higher so I can do this move where it will hurt her more. And I'm like, I don't understand why you have somebody who seems like she's got it together to be like this person, but what my component did this to me once, she tried to do it to me a second time, but I stopped her. I'm going to put her, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna put her in the position to do it to me a third time, but in a way that will hurt me more. I little things like that take me right out of it. And I just, I don't understand why that was, you could have figured out a way for her to do the exact same move without Solruka climbing the ropes to do, I guess, an electric chair drop, but like-- - I mean, that was my thinking, was that the electric chair drop is, it is helped by her getting on the ropes, but it's not justifiably helped by her getting on the ropes. You know what I mean? - You know what I mean? - She's not falling that much, it's not making enough of an impact to justify taking the risk as a smart wrestler for that to that happened to you again. So if the idea was, it's more impactful for the electric chair part, which I think is what they were going for, I don't know. - It's not like Kenny Omega and the one-winged angel where like, that's how he finishes. - Right, yes. - And like, if Kenny Omega, twice before in the match has gone for the one-winged angel, and once he got poisoned, Ronnod, but this is how he has to finish the match, 'cause that's how matches work in wrestling now. He goes for it a third time, and maybe the guy catches him. Like, that's a different thing than, I'm gonna do this weird version of a move I don't normally do, and she's already proven she knows exactly how to hit. - That again, a high impact move out of it. And so here's the other thing, and then she does it, and she hits the poison Ronn and she flings back across the entire ring, Kalani goes up and does her split leg at Moon Salt and wins, and immediately after that, like, good job. Really, good job. I'm really proud of you for beating me. Like, at what point do I ever think that you wanted to become North American champion? So rude. - Yeah, it, it-- - Like, when did you wanna do that? - And it doesn't even feel like that much of a, it bums me out, 'cause Kalani's great in the ring, and this is supposed to be a new title and a historic thing, and at no point in this, didn't feel like it had that kind of gravity. It felt like there's gonna be a million awesome gifts that come out of this match, Jeff's gifts, whatever. - Like, the 450 buckshot is something I won't-- - Awesome. - Amazing. - Amazing. - A move does not a great match make. - Cyclo's saying that she's such a good friend, she was letting Kalani hit the runner from the top. - Oh my God, what a good friend. - I know, like, that's, that is sisterhood. - Alex. - You know? - I would do that for you, 'cause I'm an idiot. - Thank you, I know I can count on you to be an idiot. (laughing) - It's my fault. Alpha Bill says, "Alex, are we friends?" I think we are, I think we are, but if we were in a wrestling match, I would still try to beat you. Alpha Bill. - Well, what kind of friend are you? One that wants the title and is competing for the same thing as your friends? - I mean, it's my occupation, and I get paid more money if I'm the champion, so yes. - The pay window, baby. Alex is headed to the pay window. Well, don't forget, this is the next teaser. You also have to have another occupation. Maybe that's what it was. She was like, I don't really have to go to the pay window, 'cause I also get paid to serve for gymnastics. - For gymnastics. - Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says, "Is Tiffany Fallon a horse, Barbie?" (laughing) Maybe, maybe. - I can't like nay in Tiffanyy boy, so I was trying to think if there was like a tutel winning thing I could do, but. - And then Apple Jam Treebeard makes fun of you, saying that that segue by Kate for Hooks was rougher than some of those spots in the ladies ladder match yesterday. - Oh, really? Well, you just paid to talk about it. So guess who wins? Guess who's headed to the pay window? You might be my friend, but I'm the one getting the monies. - So, yeah, this is just my own personal proclivities and why I didn't like this. I'm just, I hate you. I hate chase you, and I can say that I hate them while saying they also had the best match I've ever seen them have as a tag team. - Sure. - I can say I still hate them, and I don't want to ever see them on TV again. Like it's insufferable to me. Why does he wrestle wearing a dress shirt under a sweater? Tell me, no one has explained to me why that is his wrestling gear. I don't understand it. He's a wrestling teacher. Doesn't he have own a singlet? - 'Cause of the chase you section, there was a whole, he's trying to get the students who's you pepperallyed around him. - Just have chase you written on the singlet. You can do that. Brown Breaker has meaner than evil written on his. Right chase you on it, and then it's fine. See a hail over emoting, while on a white powdery substance on the outside, I just can't anymore with her. Duke Hudson is amazing, but you can do this exact same thing anywhere else. But here in this particular thing, I can't get over it. I wish I could. I can't stand them. I don't, what is like this whole, you spent now weeks having a problem between Nathan Frazier and Axiom, the blurry boys, not on the same page, blurry or otherwise, maybe the pages in Siri is in focus. Maybe it's not, we don't know. All we know is they're not on the same one. And then like Nathan Frazier barely even shows up on time for the match. And then they go out there, and they're against chase you, whose whole thing is we gotta get the title back. And you have a specific thing that it appears you've been working on again for literal weeks now, of Ridge Hall and Cheats to help them win. And then you're like, oh, he's staying at home. He's not coming to Canada, which of course we know is wrestling code for, he's definitely coming to Canada. And like you have two stories simultaneously that feel like they dovetail perfectly into each other, and you don't do it. Now, am I happy that the blurry boys retained and I have not broken up yet? Yes, am I always happy when chase you loses? Yes, but those are the stories you've been telling, and now I don't know what we're going from here. Other than more TV time for chase you to finish telling the story sometime in September. Are you saying you want them to finish the story? Gotta get, you gotta get a dog out there with the QR code shaved in it. More than code even, I... (laughing) Alex, you're just wrong about this one, I'm sorry. Chase too is really good. No, that's, see what I appreciate is the ability to draw a distinction between wrestling and criticism and knowing what is your taste and what is not your taste. I think that's a very important thing to distinguish. And I don't love this, but I'm a little easier on it than you. Red and purple not the color scheme, by the way. Red and like lavender, that I was not having. Yeah, what's the alternate color for the way colors? I don't know, it was weird. Lavender, they're literally bright red and navy blue. That's the colors that they've always been. Why is the other version of the shirt not navy blue? This is weird. And not even the right shade of purple, it was upsetting. But was not into the fashion. Very into due cuts in wrestling, man. This dude is awesome. Like, he also was getting these really big crowd reactions when he would like, and not, I don't just mean me and my living room either. I mean, the crowd that was there was very into due cuts and when they let this guy work, like, did some really cool spots in the corner, whenever he threw up the little like chase you side and delivered backbreakers and stuff. Like, he's really over if you just let this guy do his job. And it was nice that it wasn't just me who was like out here to cut since then. Audrey Chase, this was like the best he's looked to. My guess is their end of the story goes into, we need Ridge to win or we need to cheat to win or both. And the idea of Chase you turning and eventually breaking up is not something that I hate. The blurry boys retaining here was a little bit suspect, but they're really good. So also like, no, it doesn't match the story, but I want to see them have more defenses. So I'm happy about that. And there's somewhere for Chase University to go. This was far and away the best tag match that they've had. From the perspective of it was a match that had time to develop and didn't really have any outside shenanigans in it too much. Like, so much of Chase you has been like overbooking or weird stuff and distraction finishes. Like, when you just let these guys go, they can go. And we got a lot of that, which may be very happy. Do cuts and rules. He should have several rockets trapped him at this point. NASA should be calling do cuts and sending him to the main roster with how many rockets do cuts and should have strapped him. - Do you know what I was watching? When I was watching this, I was like, I wouldn't mind seeing, I mean, here's the thing. I would because I had forgotten when I was having this thought that it would involve Chase you bullshit. That was like, I wouldn't mind seeing like a, who's gonna face Obafemi at Great American Bash? Battle Royal. And the surprise winner, Do cuts him. - Ooh. - Do cuts versus Obafemi. Because I think that match would slap. - Oh my God, that would be awesome. Yeah. - It would be great. Duke wouldn't win, but it would be awesome. - Awesome, yeah. - Real coming out. Real coming out party for him. You get to see how strong he is 'cause he would heft up Obafemi all over the place. Be really good. But I forgot that at ringside would be see a hell going (hums) and I would hate it. - Yeah, and Obafemi is too unfazed by, like there would be no Obafemi needing them banned from ringside 'cause he's the most dominant guy in the world. He wouldn't give a shit if they were out there. Like, what does Obafemi care? - Right, yeah. So, apparently the purple was a reference to the Toronto Raptors, but that is not the shade of purple that they used to wear. They don't even wear purple anymore. But they used to wear a very dark plum purple and that was lavender, so why don't you. - How dangerous is it to unwrap a burger at 40 miles per hour? More so than you think. In a little over two seconds, your car can travel slightly more than 117 feet, which is the same length as 20 bicycles. Anything that distracts you while driving is dangerous. That's why driving while texting can be deadly too. So put it down, it can wait. Don't drive distracted, shifting to safe. 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Just these guys in there with DIY and an actual tag team from RAW. - Ooh. - Like the creeds of the creeds. - Oh my God, the creeds? That would be so fun. - The creeds versus the blurry boys versus DIY and a triple threat match. The only time I'll ever, ever, ever advocate for brand sub-rubber tag. - Alex. - Yeah, yeah. - That idea is so good. It made me erect. It's blue chew, main event performance, main event confidence and a main event deal. Go to bluechew.com and use the code Fightful and you will get blue chew with their first shipment for free shipment. Yeah, yeah, I said shipment. No waiting in line at the pharmacy. No awkward doctor's visits. You take their online exam and then if approved, it ships straight to your door. That's right. Same act of ingredients as Niagara and Sea Alice, but in a chewable form and much more affordable. How can you pass up on this? How can you pass up on that confidence? How can you pass up on that performance? 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I am paying for the premium tier and I only get the jobber tier. And I don't know why I'm like, I'm paying for it. I'm getting reimbursed either way, so it doesn't really matter, but I'm paying for the premium tier and I'm getting the jobber tier with all the commercials. I don't know how to change it. I've looked into it, Peacock won't change it for me, but I would much rather watch Wheatley, so do that, Peacock, Peacock, then a video package from five months ago, or whatever it was that they first showed this Briggs package. - I was also subjected to Wheatley and the earworm that lives in my head all weekend. So, I mean, there are good premium live events. You should, if you're on the premium tier, you should get the premium-meest experience. - I should. - In the world. - Yeah, @applejamtreebeard says, there's Kate Segway we all know and love. Maybe eat my words and they taste better. There you go. (laughs) - We got one more to go. We're one-in-one, we'll see what the tiebreaker is. - Yes. So, yeah, a bunch of video packages from a long time ago, from at least weeks ago, if not months. - Kinda surprised we didn't get Pat View, Brooks, Jensen Cannon tonight. - Well, he's a big sit-down, so he's just got a council then. - Well, Spears will show up and be angry about the way that he didn't get pinned in the fatal four way and Briggs will show up and attack him during the promo. 'Cause Briggs was taken out by Spears for the chair. So, there you go. That's how it works. Like, you learn to figure out, you have to suss out where they're gonna have returns and who they're gonna be against and all that kind of stuff. That'll probably be what it works. So, again, five matches on the show. At this point, at least all five of them were title matches. - Yes. - That is good. - Correct. - I appreciate you building to title matches, building such as it is, building to title matches on the- - Brandastic builds, but builds nonetheless. - No, I mean, yeah, like Meet Norma says, I'd like to see a WWE find a balance on the pay-per-view PLEs. There should be more wrestling than ads and entrances. And 10 is between five and 15. That's Meet Math and a good number of matches on the PLE pay-per-view. I don't mind it, 'cause that way you could have a couple of shorties. - Yeah. - A couple of shorter ones, squash in there, maybe somewhere. Some of them's like sub eight minutes because you're telling the story of that person winning that fast. So, you don't have to do a bunch of 20 minute guys on it, either way, but listen, five is too short. 15 is too many. Anywhere in between that, I'd probably have less things to say about it. - Sure. - You know what I mean? - I think six to seven is ideal. If you have like a whoa show, eight to 10, eight to 11 is fine. But here's my thing. It needs to be more than five and I should be able to recall your entire card. With AEW sometimes, I can't think of the entire card, like off the top of my head. That to me is, and that's my personal recall, right? Like that to me is when it gets locked. When I'm in a scrum and I'm like, who's coming out for what? Like it's too much. I should be able to be like, okay, these titles and these additional stories that had blow offs, like it should be more than just championships, but it should also be a significant amount of championships. - That's true. I just like mind the bank having like two title matches out of all of the fake, like it just. - But it's like a bigger one too. That's the thing. Like if you want to do that on bad blood or whatever the fuck, like that's why. - It appears as though the idea is going to be five matches is the standard, except for the two night affairs, we're going to start getting. You know what I mean? And those are going to have one first. - So Rumble, Summer, Slam. I bet Survivor Series will probably have more. - Survivor Series is going to have two war games matches, one for the men, one for the women, and three arbitrarily selected matches. That's what they're probably going to do with that, because the war games matches are longer. So like-- - That's true. That one's fake. - That's true. We have more wrestling time on the actual three hours, so. - And then Drew and Punk will cost each other. - Again, yes, I'll have to do that. Roxanne Perez and Lola Weiss. Now, this is, wasn't her knee. Wasn't her knee. Wasn't Lola Weiss's knee. I should have known they were going to do that spot. Then I'm going to back fist you, but accidentally I hit the ring post. I should have known they were going to do that one. But then, I don't know, wouldn't it be great to see Roxanne at the height of her powers versus Lola Weiss, the height of her powers, and just see what happens, as opposed to Lola Weiss broke her hand. I think she broke her hand and her wrist. Also, her tibia and fibia. Those are leg bones, but she probably broke those two, Booker. Oh, yeah, like that's, I mean, I would just, I just wanted this to be not that. I didn't want them to have, okay, how can we baby face Lola Weiss by having her fight from underneath against Roxanne Perez? And what they did was they had her break her hand or her wrist or her leg or lots of other things. Ribs by backfisting the ring post. And then Roxanne, like she wasn't able to get her spinning back fist on people. But we've actually seen her win a lot of matches before her spinning back fist with head kicks. And she was just doing body kicks. So I would have liked to have like, if you're going to do, oh, hey, I can't do my back fist anymore. But I got other limbs. Like wouldn't it be kind of cool if she spun out and did a friggin left handed back fist? 'Cause yeah, I learned how to do that when I was professionally fighting. You know what I mean? Like that's a thing that would be kind of cool to do. They didn't do that. They had to be like, oh, my hand for the rest of the match. And then I guess to her credit, they protected her by having her kick out of a bunch of... - Yeah, that was cool. We haven't seen that yet. - The pop Roxas, which is nice, but like it still ends up her not being at full strength because she backfisted a ring post instead of Roxanne. And then... - It's sort of a Roxanne. - She backfisted a ring post instead of a Roxanne and that was her own fault. And then that's what happened. And so Roxanne wins. She gets to show a little vicious side by hitting like three of those things in a row. So like, that's cool. All right, good. And now we just wait for Julie to be cleared. - Yeah, that's like... - And the other question is, what is Lola Vice now? Not in this match, but beyond this match. Because this is not who you've ever shown us as Lola Vice before. And I gotta tell ya, that other Lola Vice to me was preferable to this one. So a lot of really cool work in this match. I thought their ring styles meshed really, really well together. Roxanne is excellent. And I don't know, are we sitting around waiting for Julia to beat her and then what? Like is Cora Jade close enough to coming back that they're gonna do a thing? Is she just going to the main roster? Like, I get so nervous about great talents going up to the main roster because the call ups have been crap. All of them have recent, except for Lyra Valkiria, who I don't feel like they've done... They've done a good job assigning weight to her of importance. They have not done a good job telling us her character. I'll you drag it off like... Lost to Jey Uso and has just been having matches. He hasn't been in a proper story. Carmelo, same thing, really high profile matches that have been really strong and hasn't really been in a proper story. Though I think we're getting one soon with LA Knight. Everybody else is falling to the wayside. And so when I think about how cool it should be when someone gets called up, I have a hard time now. Tiffany, obviously, killing it. But like very few, very few on the main roster. Bron, killing it. That's two. That's two of like 11 or something. So like, if you told me Blair Davenport was gonna go to the main roster and not feel like a force to be reckoned with, I would have laughed at you. 'Cause she's someone who should. So I guess we wait and see. I liked that the second Pop Rocks didn't go great. And I don't know if that was supposed to be one that was like a four good measure one, but I couldn't start whether it was supposed to be three or she was just like, that one didn't work. We're gonna throw a third one on here. That was well done by her 'cause finished on the strong note there. And it only makes Lolo look more vicious. I get what you're saying about the broken hand spot. I'm a little more okay with it kind of because they've defined her by the knockout punch so much. And that spot when done, right, always looks extremely believable to me. Like if you hit your ring post dead on full force, I believe it broke your hand. So I kinda like those spots 'cause they also still, even though it's a predictable one, they oftentimes still catch me by surprise. So there was a lot to like about this match. I will say the starkness of the turn from the promo of last week into this match, just made this feel a little muddy. Like I don't know who Lolo vice is 'cause she's a different person a week ago than she's been this whole time. So that kind of had a cloud over my enjoyment of this match, but both of them are great. It is very weird that we had a face-on-face dude and a heel-on heel feud. Like you could've just smocked him. - It was heel-on heel up until a week ago. - Up until a week ago, yeah. - And then her face. So here's what I would like to do out of this. I don't know. I don't know how you would've been nice if they had figured out a way to do this backstage tonight. Lola being really upset that she lost. And because Kalani is everybody's friend, she comes up and like gives her a little, you know, a hand on the shoulder being like, there's nothing to be shamed of and blah, blah, blah. And then we have Lola hit her with a spinning kick or something. - That'd be cool. Like don't mistake my tears last Tuesday for weakness. Like something like that and put her, like the opposite of Kalani's like, my best friend, Saul Rooka, and I are gonna have a little fun, middle match. - A spirited competition. - I don't care who wins 'cause friendship is magic. And the opposite of that is Lola Vice trying to kick your damn head off. - Sure. - Like that would, honestly, that wouldn't, because to me, I always felt like that the NXT North American Women's Championship thing was kind of earmarked for a Lola Vice run. I never pictured Lola Vice as a top women's champion. So if that's who Kalani loses to, not immediately, but down the line, that would be a really good thing for Lola and probably a good thing for Kalani to have to wrestle people who actually want to beat her of the unlike Saul Rooka. - I just don't want any drama, but I will say, even if you didn't want to go fully in that direction, you could have had like, there's no shame in losing or whatever, and Lola Vice just being disgusted by that energy. This woman was like, one on one with Shayna Baszler, not that long ago. Like even, 'cause there's a cool angle as a tweener or a face in there of like, I'm not okay with not winning. Why are you, you're a champion. Like there's fun dissension that you can walk the line with if you aren't sure what you want to do next with her. - Yeah, and Joe's saying that they're going to keep Lola face for some reason, then her thing should be J.C. and Jasmine. - Yeah, she. - That should be the thing that she goes out. - And she should kick the dog ass out of them. - Yeah. - Like J.C. should be wearing five nose protectors by the end of that feud. - And they're all like? - All the way out to here, just. - I was going to say they're all a little off center and she just has no sense of heart and sound on those. - Yeah. - Jim McFowl saying that rocks in a program with Bailey would be awesome. - That'll be, that's inevitable, I would say. - I mean, eventually they'll definitely get to that point. Jim, Jim would say, I don't know, parts of this women's hair match was great for the most part, I couldn't get into it because I find Lola's character boring. I also took five pops rocks, putting one through a table, it felt weak to me. Well, like, it's supposed to protect Lola that she like won't give up. And according with Will Chisholm saying this, those pop rocks felt like when Randy gets mad and he puts a little stank with the RKO, like eventually it was just like, okay, fine, you're not going to tap out to this cross face. I'm going to do three of these to you in a row. Like she was like, I am done with you. And I don't know, I felt like it was, I felt like it was a fine little like, as opposed to like, oh, man, I don't know, I can't possibly beat her, like, you know, it was like, you know what, screw you, I'm going to hit you with three of these in a row. - Yeah. - As opposed to anything else. But they're, at least they were trying to protect Lola, but you know, it's a tough one because Roxanne's size, I think she's acclimated very, very well in the ring. But when you have someone as hard hitting and with the size advantage as Lola, like you have to produce your matches really specifically to make it buy-inable. And I felt like that was a good way to go about it, honestly. And I feel like Roxanne has settled into the heel that they want her to be, but though it's not my first choice. - So Roxanne, I don't know when Julie is showing up, but Roxanne is just doing placeholder stuff until Julie shows up. - Seems that way for sure. Seems that way. - So I don't know, I don't know who she faces at. Great American Bash on sci-fi, because Olympics. So they're doing a major show the Tuesday after summer slam in a month and it's gonna be on sci-fi. So hopefully you got that on your cable package. - They never do sci-fi themed stuff. 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I gotta say like I appreciate the AJ Lee tributes, but like I feel like the more Rock sand and when Core Jade returns, like the less they do of like, I'm a CM Punk stay when I was a kid and I also am inspired by AJ Lee. Like time for you to grow into yourselves, but that submission absolutely rules. But I feel like a million pop rocks is a good way to go. They're delicious candy. Why not? - Just don't put them in Coca-Cola. - No. - Although it's crazy. - Yeah. That would be a really fun thing to do like on a Halloween episode. It's like there's a puzzle of Coca-Cola. She does a pop rocks into it. And the person is the two just starts going. (dog barking) - That's so much better than an exploding barbed wire definitely. (laughing) It's good. - Alex, we should do some puns 'cause we're already like coming up on the main event here. - Yeah. Heat puns or summer puns, I guess. Meet Norma says how, how? - I was thinking summer pun in. - I know you were. 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And nation of dehydration. - Gotta drink her water. - Doc Chris Mueller says, Chelsea is green, should have one in the bank. Not Chelsea green, Chelsea is. Like, I can't do perversion in my head, but Chelsea is green, it's very good. - Yes, E&R says thermal steam 2000. Scorch, Sabre, Jr. Chase, BTU. And Bam Bam boiling point. - The lengths you guys go to stretch, I mean, ZSJ and Bam Bam Bam big low shore, but like techno team 2000 is just so irrelevant. (laughs) - Was in a kernel photo says, Chris thermostat lander. - Very good, very, very good. - Meet Norma says, Mercuria Ripley. Temperature of the islands. - Temperature of the islands is really good. - E&R says, Penta El Cerro Inferno. Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says, Zach Summer Jr. Thermal team 2000, Bam Bam boiling point. BTU trigger and ego energy page. - Nice. - Bad Apple Jam Treebeard also says, the rock and sock thermal conduction. - Guess we're going deep cut with thermals. - Doc Chris Mueller says, Jacob Houtu. Inferno team, oh, Jacob Houtu, now I get it. - Houtu. - Jacob Houtu. - I got you. - Not to be confused with Jacob Houtu. Inferno team 2000 and Kel Vincent Reicherse. - I'm still stuck on you doing Houtu a joke, but it's fine. - I'm into the, I'm hip. - You are, you're so hip. - I've seen the memes. - You've seen the memes, you're so cool. - Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says, propane Peter Avalon and of course, Latino Heat Eddie Guerrero. - Oh. - CEO Guy-- - The wrestler's me, Eddie Guerrero. - CEO God of six says, Will Ocean Spray? And Alex Jawslowski. - This is good for me in art, Fuegobo Femi. - Oh my gosh, E&R, I'm sorry you lost your job. - I saw that in the chat after we were off air. And I just want to say some bettors around the corner. It always is, we already talked about that on here, like how neither of us would be in this position if we hadn't lost jobs that were more stable or whatever. So something better is around the corner. This community is amazing at lifting people up when they need it. Do your thing, give E&Rikabani all your love. And the good news is you have a very solid commentary, ability and you are working a lot. So I'm hoping that I'll help. - Yes, true. - Me, Norma, says Celsius Green, Heat Indexed or Loomers, Fuegobo Del Sol. - Fuegobo Del Sol, I like the ones where you can just cheat by just saying the name. - You just say the name, say the name. - So Lexus King talks about the heritage of rock and roll, not that bleep, bleep music. And I guess before he has a feud with Eddie Thorpe about bleep, bleep music, he's challenging Tony D for the Heritage Cup because American heritage is rock and roll, he says. And Tony D, who's in his basil patch, is like, hey, so you come talking to me about this. And I'm gonna sit here and nibble on a leaf of basil. And I'm gonna see you on Tuesday. Lexus King. So yeah, no, it's good. I mean, it's fine 'cause Tony D is gonna be successful in defending the Heritage Cup. And I will get to see Tony D throw Lexus King all over the ring. And I think I'm pretty sure, like 97.3% sure that there's no danger of him losing the Heritage Cup in the match. So it'll just, every suplex will be a gift to me personally. So. - Alex? - Yeah. - We are almost talking about the main event and we are an hour and 15th into the show. That is very unlike us. So here's what's gonna happen. You said at the beginning of the show that you are either gonna make people hate the show or they were gonna hate you. I'm gonna do you one better. - Okay. - We'll do you one better. - What's up? - I'm gonna give you a history lesson about music in like two minutes. So you can just, you can stretch, you can do whatever you want. You can mute me right now. I probably mute me if I was gonna hear about how pretentious I was about to be. - I'm not gonna mute you. I'll mute myself. - American heritage being built on rock and roll. The idea that rock and roll is inherently an American thing of like rock and roll, apple pie, baseball or whatever is sarcastic. The idea that it's American is a sarcastic idea because we stole rock and roll from the Brits, i.e. the Beatles, and black people. Because rock and roll, if you trace its roots all the way back, is rooted in slave songs. You go to rhythm and blues, blues, sped up as rock and roll. The Brits are responsible for every great rock and roll innovation that we've had basically from that point on, this is not American heritage. And you know what, you're a heel Alexis King, so you get to just make stuff up. But I'm just saying, viewers out there deserve to know that when people say American, winter skitter, rock and roll, whatever, that ain't it. Anybody with music, education, knowledge knows that this is a sarcastic thing. It was the Beatles and black people that we stole this from, specifically slaves. Because that's what we do as Americans. Look at the Constitution. Okay. Jazz grunge a little different, but rock and roll specifically. Alex, you can come back now. That was my pretentious music rant. Thank you so much for watching. I hope you enjoyed the extreme segues into the ads today to make up for how obnoxious that was. Thanks so much. - That is the most use I've ever gotten out of that gift from my father-in-law. (laughing) - A copy of The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt. 700,000 pages. The print is so tiny. And you have a documentary I could watch, Rich? Richard, because I'm not gonna read that book. I'm sorry. (laughing) - Well, it makes a good prop. - It does. - When I go on another pretentious rant about how pomponks sucks or something, you can bust it out again. (laughing) - Will Chisholm saying that Tony D talking about his garden is goted. - That was pretty great. Okay. So. - The chat wants to know how grunge is different. That was a musical innovation in rock and roll that happened in America. The Brits are responsible for pretty much every single other one. So grunge is like the one thing that we innovated on under the rock and roll genre umbrella that came out of the West Coast. So there's that. (laughing) Hell yeah, someone with a master's is backing me up. Let's go. I am pretentious, but I am agreed with. - Yeah. (laughing) - So, I sweet and sassy. I don't know. Does Cori know? Cori's not around? Is it on? Is that if I have a select? - I can message him. Let's see if Cori's awake. That's a fun thing to play. - I don't know. Let's see if it's on. Hold on. Let's see if the... Hold on. - On FightfulSelect.com where you can get producer list and rundowns for weekly episodic television under the WWE umbrella. - You look at that. - Is that what you're going to check? - You look at that. - You think my internet's going to hold up again? - Listen, this is... You are, people are going to make me have to watch more of this. Currently, NXT Heatwave on Cage Match is rated at 9.69. Number one, nice. Number two. (laughing) No! Like, it's like no! - That'll even help. - It's got 26 10.0s. - It was definitely not a 10.0, P.L.E. But it was, I think it was strong. - I think it was stronger than you think it is because I can accept imperfections. - It wasn't a 10. - It was not a 10. It wasn't eight. - It wasn't a 10. It wasn't a 10. - 9.69, I'm pretty sure is a higher rating than Forbidden Door. - Yeah, no, that's... A 9.69 might be a higher rating than the second all out or whatever, when Daniel said it in Cole appeared. Like, it is not... - It's probably higher than most NXT takeovers from the heyday. - I think, wait till we see the morning. - Let's see, let's see. - The producer lists are not there, but I will message Corey. We have gotten off the rail. 17 minutes and 24 seconds is this main event. NXT title fatal four away match. 17 minutes and 24 seconds. 17 minutes and 19 seconds of it was amazing. The last five seconds ruined the whole match. And I'm sorry that's who I am. Match ruined. Ruined. Final five seconds ruined the match. Sorry, ruined. What an a brilliant, amazing match. What an amazing breakout performance by Javan Evans. Truly, truly break up. This guy is gonna do amazing things in his career. I cannot believe how young he is. All of the back and forth stuff, the really cool moments, the near falls, everybody got to do really cool things. Sean Spears proved he's still at the level that he do this kind of stuff, good for Sean Spears. Ethan Page has everything you could possibly want in making a match feel like it's important in the match. Tripp Williams is a hugely overt top guy. I don't think it's even arguable. Yeah, and then Ethan Page won the match while unconscious. And the whole thing is ruined. Before we get into the match, you guys know I'm an Ethan Page fan and I am a huge fan of his work. And there are many critical reasons that I think he's an unbelievable wrestler, notably his ability to make his opponents look excellent while making himself look really good in the process. It is promo ability to create connective tissues between things that are ambiguous or don't make sense. Those are my favorite things about Ethan Page as a wrestler. Two quick Ethan Page stories. When I went to my first independent show, it was Joey Janela's curtain call. And I went with a friend who was working commentary and I was intimidated. It was very weird 'cause I was there early, there were a bunch of wrestlers around and I didn't know any of them and everybody was agenting their matches. And I was just like this invisible ghost and it took me back to this really weird place of being like a little girl, almost like who didn't, like didn't, I did not expect to get a emotional bout the story, but like I just didn't feel like I belonged. It's a very weird feeling if you have like anxiety or whatever. And Ethan Page was on that show and I had been a fan of his work, but I never met him. And as I'm like literally sitting in the corner, like I'm sure I looked like a little kid too. He just comes up to me and says, "Hi, I'm his shoot name." And he just talked to me like I belonged there. He talked to me like I was just a human being talking to another human being. And I genuinely don't know if he didn't take time to do that if I would have ever gone to another independent show ever again. I certainly wouldn't be doing commentary and that changed entirely how I viewed that day. And I've never, ever, ever forgot it. And then four months ago, he becomes your ex-site wrestling champion and I'm a commentary and he's doing a meet and greet and it's nine million degrees in the venue. And I was like, maybe I should get this guy a bottle of water as he's talking to people under lights and a five million degree venue. And I started to walk over to him to give him a water. And he acts like I should be doing the meet and greet. This guy, God bless him. Sorry to ruin the business. He's actually really great. Just, oh my God, Kate. And just talk to me again and I got to tell him the first story that I just told you guys. But I just wanted that to be public because that meant the world to me. And even at ex-site, seeing how he treated me on commentary, telling me spots that he was going to give his opponents and things that I should be looking out for on commentary without having to pull teeth as it is sometimes. Need a backstage interview to set something up? Awesome. Should I take the title with me or do you guys wanna hold onto it? Stuck around was the last guy out of the locker room, one of the first people in the room. Ethan Page, the person. And Ethan Page, the wrestler. I am a huge fan of on both counts. And I just wanted everyone to know those stories because Nash was really cool. I think he's gonna do a million awesome things as NXT champion. But I was like beaming with excitement. That the guy who I feel like should be a champion in some promotion is now a world champion in NXT. And I just, I was out of my skin excited. And I just wanted to tell you that story because I think the ending fucking sucked. And I didn't want all of this genuine excitement and how excited I am for the person and how excited I am for the title reign. And all the wonderful things I think he's gonna do as champion and all the glowing things I think about his ability to be truncated by the fact that I thought it was really stupid to end it this way. This match was awesome for most of it. Javan Evans, him and Obafemi, man. Like we saw Braun Breaker and Carmelo and Tippy come up. This crop is gonna be like Obafemi, Javan Evans, Roxanne. Like there are people being built and it's awesome. Sean Spears did some really, really good work in this and a lot of really smart work that shows you why like this guy as a veteran is just gonna be a huge asset as a coach, as someone who needs to make sense out of stories, someone who can help younger guys along in ring. Like even the spot where he was on the top rope and didn't go for it. I was like, oh, that's really, really, really good. Trek is over like Rover. I feel like his title reign again, not a reflection of his talent or his ability to be over. The stories around his title reign have not been good. And I think him having to chase his way back is going to be something that is infinitely needed as a wind in the sails for this guy. So the frustrating thing about the ending for me is I like what it led to. I think Ethan Page is gonna be an incredible champion. I think Trek needed this for his character. Javan Evans loses nothing by being one of four guys in this and not winning 'cause he gave an all-star performance. And Sean Spears, I think not that he needs to prove anything at this stage of his career, but it just was a reminder. So all of these great things came out of it, but so far with Ethan Page, we've already had his finisher not be protected and he basically won this match, not conscious. So it's like he kind of, for how much of a star he is, they've taken all of this softness around the like refreshingly like cutting-edge-ness of Ethan Page to me. And they really kind of weakened some stuff just for no reason. Like they could have just not done that in either case. They just either not have him hit the ego's edge and they get kicked out of him and you don't have him win basically lifelessly here. So that stuff is frustrating, but the end result, I think is like a best-case scenario for all guys that were involved in the match and the rest of the match was fantastic. It felt like a main event. They did a really good job. It was a really weird road to get to this four-pack, but the actual match other than that weird-ass ending, I felt like was really, really cool. So there you go. - Yeah, you said it pretty well. I'm happy that Ethan Page is the champion, but like this is how we got there, like this. This is, I mean, I, there was a really great moment where he, where Trick was laid out fully done on the outside and Sean Spears did the C4 to Jevon Evans and Ethan Page ran in and shit-can spears and pinned him. And I was like, if that had been the finish, I would have been like, this was almost a perfect match. Almost perfect, like a 9.92 out of 10. What a great way to do it. - Six, nine. - But then it just came out. It just kept, kept going and going and going and they were all good stuff, lot of good stuff. But I was like, so where's the, where's the finish? How's this is gonna happen? And, and Trick hits Ethan Page with a knee. Well, he's one to Jevon Evans. Then he hits another one immediately after that to the Ethan Page who falls back. And somehow Trick Williams falls out of the ring and he's trying to get back in. And he grabs, Sean Spears grabs Trick Williams' leg as though it's a tag match. And he doesn't want him to break up the pinfall because his partner is tag, like, it's a fatal four way. If you are not involved in the pin, you want to make sure anybody breaks up that thing. - Yeah. - Somebody has to break up that thing. If it's not you, it's gotta be somebody else. You should be literally shoving Trick Williams into the ring so he can go pick the break up the pinfall. That, that did make, made zero sense. Sean Spears holding him back. That makes no sense whatsoever. I don't get it because Sean Spears doesn't like Ethan Page. Like, he was obviously like, like, could not believe that he had lost. He was very upset by it. Like, and to the people saying, well, this is great because Ethan Page is gonna gloat. And I know how a lot of people like that were like, heels will gloat about shit they didn't do. I fucking hate it. Don't tell me lies. Tell me truth. I don't wanna, I don't wanna see you tell me how great you are when you wanna match knocked out. Because that just, that's maybe go, oh, we'll see you. You'll be delusional. Fuck that, I hate it. I fucking hate it. Everybody should be, everyone should exist on the plane of reality we all exist on. We all saw you win the match when you were fucking knocked out. You don't get to gloat about that, that's dumb. I don't care how good Ethan Page is at gloating about it. It's still gonna be a fucking lie. And he should know it's a lie and not fucking say it. I fucking hate all this. Five seconds, five seconds. All you had to do, HBK, was not book one of your greatest hits. And he couldn't fucking resist. I hate it for different reasons, 'cause I don't always hate that angle, but I do when Ethan Page is way too unestablished. He's way too unestablished in NXT. I know him 'cause I'm following him for a lot of his career. But in NXT, what happened was he lost his first title match. He didn't win a battle royal that is still going on, technically. Like if you're gonna do that shit, I need to believe, I need to believe you could've won anyway, but then you were just like casual about it or whatever. This is the guy to me. This works when you're the guy who has 55 home runs a season. And so that when you hit one to the warding track, you run lazily, like you hit a home run. I can handle that when you are more established. You have some wins. You feel like a viable threat already. So that for me is my thing. Like if you're gonna be a chicken shit heel, I have to believe, I have to have evidence to believe that you are actually good already. So they just didn't do that. They made him look weak with his finisher immediately. That was the first thing that they told us about. - First, the first thing they did was tell us his finisher's dog shit 'cause he can't pin a guy. - In a world title match. - In a world title match. And then he lost clean. And then he got this by beating another guy to get in it. And Sean Spears got it by beating Trick Williams. That's how Sean Spears got into the fucking match. So him winning through no action he took. He did not take an action. I'm fine with him winning off of Sean Spears's move to Jevon Evans, then shit-kidding Sean Spears, but that's because that shows he's a cagey heel. What this shows is that he got knocked out. - He got knocked out and lucky. - To land on a dude. This is also the same finish from Backlash 2007, where HBK Superkick Cena and Cena falls onto Orton. Like it's the same thing. Like he cannot stop picking out shit from his own past and saying, "This is a good idea, we'll do this." - And the other thing is he's not, this isn't a chicken shit heel because he didn't run away from anything and he didn't do anything clever or cerebral. He got knocked out, right? Like there's a difference between being strategic and being just kind of lucky here at the end. But it's frustrating because of that. But like rest of the match was great. I love what comes out of it for the product moving forward. I think that's a really, really healthy decision for pretty much everyone involved. I just don't like the means to none of that they got there. This was weird. Like, I mean, I want Ethan Page to be the champion. I want him to be the champion a different. - You want him to be a convincing champion? And they haven't shown us that he can make yet. Yeah. (laughs) - They haven't done the work to make him into a guy who deserves to be champion yet. - Or that. - In any way, in any way. - Yeah, he just hasn't, he just hasn't had enough wins. Like if he lost his first title match, he had a couple of minor wins, but like he hasn't wanted a big spot yet in a real way. - That's a big trick. It's like, does trick get it back? Because if not, what are you doing with trick? Like what, well honestly, I love Ethan Page. But if this is the way you're gonna take the title off of trick, what a waste of trick Williams. That man had a meteoric rise to be one of the most over dudes on the entire roster. Raw SmackDown or NXT. One of the most over, he had never appeared on SmackDown before. He shows up to save Carmelo Hay is that one weird time. And they're immediately doing whoop that trick chance. Like he's hugely over. You put him, you haven't beat Ilya Dragunov, who's one of the top 10 wrestlers in the whole world and the best guy to come through NXT in a long ass time. You haven't beat Ilya Dragunov to become the champion. And like, what have you done with the reign? >> I mean, nothing, nothing with the reign. >> He lost the title, but like he lost the title via Oopsie Daisy. Via slipping on a banana peel, he lost the title. Like, and if he gets it back, that doesn't exactly do the thing we want, which is to establish Ethan Page and Page as a respectable champion. So like, you've basically decided voluntarily with your own actions to book yourself into a corner where it feels like if you're going to help out trick, you're going to hurt Ethan Page. If you help out Ethan Page, you're going to hurt trick. You can do, I promise- >> Yeah. >> You can make sure both guys look good coming out of this and we'll see. I guess we'll just have to have faith in Shawn Michaels. Great Booker that he is, that he knows exactly where he's going with this. And by the fall, everything will be laid out before us and everyone will come out smelling like roses. Because we have so many things in the past. Instances in history to look to and say, he's done that exact thing. So many times that why wouldn't he be able to do it again? Wait, no, the opposite of everything I just said. >> It's opposite day on Sunday. I do think tricks raid was like so dead in the water. I feel like it's inevitable with the way this ended and his reaction to it. That he'll come for Ethan Page again. Also, we got a Joe Henry graphic real fast. So I don't know if he's entering the world title picture, but they just- >> Yeah. >> Joe Henry graphic and I'm like, okay. >> We're getting Joe Henry versus Ethan Page? >> I have no idea. I have no idea. And okay, all right, a good, a great American bash, or is that a different thing? Is Trick World, what are you doing with Trick? Is Trick getting called up? Is Eager is going up after SummerSlam? What are we doing? >> Trick is the one that's the most vulnerable coming out of this for sure. But it does feel like there was that great moment of tension with Javon Evans tonight. So I think there's going to be a feud there. And he better come back for his title. >> Yeah. There was- >> Ian, I'll ask Corey about this. That's why, well, no, we're getting here. Sorry, I love you, sorry. >> I don't know. There was another chat in here and it's gone now. But I was waiting for this particular moment because somebody had said that what a great way to book people, use the PLE to hold people into the weekly show. This was so much fun from beginning to end and we get a Joe Hendry thing. And I was like, yeah, in silence and for a second. Like if I hadn't- >> They didn't even say his name in here. >> They didn't say his name. He didn't appear there was no stinger of his music. It was literally his face for less than a second. It might as well have been a QR code. Like what are we- >> Go Hendry in the Wyatt 6, Abid. Well, here's the deal, like their master plan of having Joe Hendry thrown out of a battle royal immediately did not pay off in the ratings. They had very low ratings in the next two weeks. So hopefully they learned from their mistake because that was rough. >> So there we go. Jug Savona says, hi guys, love the job you do, I'm at work so I missed hate wave. Did Joe Hendry appear? His face kind of did. >> But like the whole thing is, say his name and he appears. I don't think they said his name. >> Nobody said his name, I'm sure that- >> He's silent and he appears. That's not how that goes at all. >> No, love fro says, I believe in Joe Hendry clap clap. And Godo, this is where that's how you use PLE to get people to watch the main show. It's fun for beginning to add that the Joe Hendry tees is a nice cliffhanger. I mean, cliffhanger, we don't, I don't know man, we don't like- >> It's not a cliff that you're hanging off of. >> It's just, I don't know, okay, there's a lot of- >> It's like a horizon that you drove your Jeep up to, we're not hanging off the cliff yet. It was just a nice picture. >> Alpha Bill says didn't like Vic's shitting on Alpha 1 wrestling. I didn't hear him do that. Did he shim the Alpha 1 wrestling? >> I didn't hear him do that either, but that's- >> I'm sure that was designed by the fact that Ethan Page is a heel and a big part of Alpha 1 wrestling. >> Ryan Sully says HBK with the back last 2007 flashback with that finish LOL, let the sour flow, cheers, Kate and Alex, we will, we did, we have, we shall. Bad Apple Jam tree beard says it was once again, HBK booking his career in NXT. He did the end, where Edge speared Orton and then Cena A8 Edge. Then H.A.K. Supercase Cena on the Orton's body and the feller, yes, that. >> Yes, that exact thing. Yes, he just said, hey, there was a thing in a match I once did. Should we do that? And nobody will remember it. Yes, we will, because we are- >> We're, we're Savants. >> Ryan Shaqini says Ethan Page the character will gloat how he won. Like, I beat you while I was unconscious. And then we were like, yeah, but don't you see how that makes you worse than it makes him? >> One it. >> If he did this in six title defenses from now. He could be like, I'm so good I can be when I'm not even awake. But like he can't do that yet. Like this is too early to pull that shit off for, in my opinion. >> Yeah, Tim McFaul says Kate Hart emoji. Okay, now I'm even bigger Ethan Page fan. >> Just the most positive interactions you could possibly have with the wrestler or the ones that I've had with that guy. >> That's good. >> Steph the writer says, who was that main event ending supposed to help? >> Well, it's so weird cuz the outcomes of it are great, but actual endings. >> I mean, it helps Ethan Page because he's the champion now. >> And I would argue that it helps trick if they do something with it moving forward. Cuz he was dead in the water with this rain, again, not his fault, but this rain was bad. And now he has something to be pissed off about. >> Apparently, Sean has a report on five select about Joe Hendry. Everybody should go subscribe to that now cuz we're not behind the paywall here. So we can't read the report to you. You have to go and subscribe. >> So describe. >> It's the best $5 in business though, so. >> It is the best $5 in the business, the top dollars as it were. >> Just Ricardo says I'm 1,000% against banana peel wins killed at all. >> Yeah, banana peel wins. >> I am against banana peel wins as well. I call it winning via oopsie daisy and I hate it. >> Are they Cavendish bananas? >> They are big Mike Banas, they're big Josh bananas. Meet Norma says, why put a foot on the rope in a four way no DQ match? Yeah, are they rope breaks or are they not rope breaks? There certainly was a rope break in that particular instance. >> There was. >> They called it that, but I didn't know it's a no DQ fatal four way match. But there are rope breaks. So I don't know, man, just be consistent is all I would say with that. >> Notably also no oromensa neither of them lied to the people that said they are not going to Canada. >> Well, here we go now oromensa gets this to have a title match versus Ethan Page. Ethan Page will be one and O in his reign. He won't lose in his first title defense, so that'll be nice. Steph the writer says, star making performance for Jevon 100%, that dude's got it. I don't know that they'll do it. I still say an amazing thing they should do with him is have him get a title match versus Obafemi. And have Obafemi just chuck him all over the place. And afterwards he was like, wow, you threw me pretty far, big man. I'm gonna get another title shot though. And he's like, what are you talking about? And then have it do it again, but this time he gets really close. And then a few months later he gets another title shot and he beats him. That would be, if I was to say Obafemi has to lose one year from now, the guy I would have him lose to is Jevon Evans. I would have it be that story. >> Like over the course of a year he gets three title shots against him. Not a rematch, crucially he has to earn those title shots every time. But on the third one he beats Obafemi. Now do I think Obafemi should lose the title ever? >> No, I was gonna say, but one with that. >> If you told me he had to lose a match one year from now it would be to Jevon Evans. >> That's my big thing though, it's just like he should never lose. >> Will Chisholm says, I think trick will get the title back on the first show on the CW if it's me. I guess- >> Is it you? Are you booking? >> I mean, Will, have you- >> And if so, I'm sorry, we've been very critical. I'm sorry about that. >> [LAUGH] >> Shauna Walensky says I'll take all ego champion over annoying Tiffy in the bank. He's going to be in- >> How dare you? >> He's going to be insufferable as champion, believe in Joe Hendry. There's a lot of exclamation points in there, Sean. >> I don't understand why Tiffany Stratton, aka me, is catching stress tonight. What all I did was win money in the bank and I'm gonna cash in at SummerSlam. And I'm gonna say two titles to comments like yours. >> Apple Jam Treebeard says, I would have had it if after ego one, have his old tag partner show up as a crossover. >> Guys. >> And gosh, Alexander show up before Joe Hendry's face pops up. >> We gotta, we as a society. I love inter-promotional booking and free agency is very exciting. But so many people were like Ricky Starks is gonna show up or Josh Alexander is gonna show up. It's like, well, hold on. Josh Alexander is almost done with TNA, first of all, like- >> Maybe hell of a way to go out. >> It would be a really cool way to go out and I think that would be neat. But I feel like it's the same with people that are like Nigel versus Daniel said, I was like, well, can he wrestle like, let's not jump the gun on something, so let's relax. >> C. Delgado says, no rope breaks only when it helps Punk screw Drew. >> Yeah. >> That's how that works. Yeah, that's how that works. I forgot about that. So we got a few more here. DNC Digital says, just like when Vince couldn't book H's kids. I feel like there are examples of H not being able to book Sean's kids. That can also be me being impatient. They should just have a plan for them. I don't care if the plan is for them to come up and go on a losing streak to start their career before they write the ship. They gotta have a plan, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know what they're like, they have to have nothing for them, is it excusable? >> Yeah, people that'd be like if I was applying for jobs and I got hired somewhere and they were like, we haven't quite figured out what your responsibilities at this job are. Like you need to have a creative butt. Or if they were like, Alex, we've hired you as an actor on this television show, but we don't so much know any of your dialogue or character traits. >> Yeah, Apple jam tree beer says that 9.6 is way too damn high. It would have said something like a 7.9 to 8.4 range. Money to make was rated like a 4.6 or something. I think it's up to 5.6 now. >> It was not good, like money to make was not good. >> Yeah. >> But I feel like 8 1/2 is the highest I would put it at. >> Mm-hm, mm-hm. >> 7.8 is the lowest I would put it at. You would put it at a negative 472. >> I would have put it at like a 5. Just basically everything's a wash because of some of the bad booking. Boba Femi winning puts it up to less 7, like a 6.8, not a 6.9, because it is not nice. Like a 6.8, because Boba Femi won. >> In the match that was. >> Nice. >> Mm-hm, Leon Zadunken says, how far along do you think Solruka would be if she didn't tear her ACL and miss an entire year? Because it seems like she came a long way already in like a year. Yes, it is kind of funny. They were like, both of these women have basically been rustling for 12 months. So like, no, because Solruk was out for like nine. >> Yeah. >> So like you, Vic, Joseph, you are not telling the truth here. Like he was for a long freaking time. >> Absolutely kill me today when Booker T goes, I like Riley Osborn. And he was like two weeks ago. >> [LAUGH] >> Let's go on and go since when. >> Mm-hm. >> Mm-hm, it's true. >> Mm-hm, Will Chisholm says, I think one of the spots that should have done yesterday was Randy Orton punts Jacob Fatou, but Jacob no sells it. I mean, there's still time, there's still time. Jacob Fatou is gonna get a one on one match with Kevin Owens, he's gonna beat the hell out of him. He's gonna get a one on one match with Randy Orton, he's gonna beat the hell out of him. Those are the two things that are gonna happen. So maybe they'll put that in there with a Randy Orton match. >> I want Jacob Fatou versus Will Osprey and them just no selling everything. And everybody on the internet having a meltdown, it would sustain the power grid for decades. >> Mm-hm, okay, so we got some more here. >> Well, thank you. >> Tim McFowell says #GetCory on the show, I think it's a bit late now, he's probably asleep. >> He's probably asleep. >> The John Black says, Alex and Kate putting on a pro wrestling literacy master class tonight. Well done, grabs, well thank you with the John Black. We love the John Black. Also sorry for the pretentious music lesson, but now you guys are smarter for it. >> Alex Ramirez says I missed Get the Flick out of here, we'll listen. >> Aww. >> Maybe we'll do another episode of This Is Cinema on Fight Will Select, like in the week or so. I don't know, maybe, maybe if you're left. >> We'll see what we can do. >> Yeah, maybe we'll do another one of those. >> You've got some fun chaos coming your way. >> I do, we'll see what's going on. >> We will see what happens. Apple gem tree bird says the people win, Kate, it's the people who win. >> It must have been like a thing, and who wins, and then I think that was a response to that, but I didn't see it in time, so I don't know what he's talking about. >> The people always win, because they got to watch wrestling. >> Matthew Hook says Kate killed the promo read, thanks for the love. >> I was gonna say that could go one or two ways, Kate killed the promo read. >> [LAUGH] >> Could have been good, could have been bad. >> Apparently Tim says he set the chat when Corey was on the chat. Was Corey in the chat? I missed Corey in the chat. I'm sorry, guys, I didn't see Corey was in the chat. Well, he can't even tell us who produced the main event. What the hell is he gonna come in here? Just come in and go cock-haw out of my face, about Larry Wilkeria? What was he gonna do? >> I'm probably Fight Will Select.com, we'll have that for you tomorrow would be my guest, your producer list. But listen, I called him a coward, he hasn't shown up in a while. I think I'm just right. >> I guess, I guess- >> He has a login, he can pop up in the chat. >> He can absolutely pop onto the show. But again, I don't know what he was gonna tell us, considering he did not have the information of who produced this event. >> Get the scoop skis or- >> Bring scoops or don't come on the show at all. >> At all, coward. >> Wayne, listen, I wish I knew the answer to that. Because if I did, I would know who to send my hate mail to. Who produced the main event? Then I would be able to know who I could send my hate mail to. I'm sorry, Lil, and I don't can. I want to know this answer almost as much as you do, I promise. >> Do you think it was Robert Stone or Stevie Turner? >> It was like it was assistant. They were like, I got it. I'm just gonna pull up this check cuz it's nice about me. I've only been here for four minutes, but I love Kate's personality. Thank you so much, Flattery will get you everywhere. Seriously, if you're new to sour grabs, we have a lot of fun hanging out with us every Tuesday. We are extremely silly, and what do you say? Constructively hypercritical. >> Constructively hypercritical. >> We have a lot of fun though, if you're new around here. Please join us on Tuesdays, and on FightfulSelect.com. >> [LAUGH] >> Wayne Buck says, I'd like to donate to the Katal Elizabeth Naughty Segway development fund. >> [LAUGH] I had to keep him on their toes. Normally they're very metaphorical and extended. Tonight I was getting right into him. Segway's out of nowhere, like RKO's baby. Lieutenant Colonel Foto says, I'm so happy you guys like the logo. Kate's been deserving of grapedom for a while. >> The logo? >> Here we go, the logo, this logo, this new logo. >> You mean this logo? >> This logo. See, it's just- >> I love hearing so much, you know, it's thorough. >> It's so good. >> And you're a facial expression. You've made that face before. >> So much, so many times, so many times. It's true, it's great, I love it. >> We're so pretty. >> We are, but cantankerous cartoon form, that's great. >> [LAUGH] >> So, Lieutenant Colonel Foto says, overall good wrestling, so much better than commercials in the bank. Yes, way better than commercials in the bank. >> Commercials in the bank. >> Yeah, RKO revealed that she fractured her arm yesterday so everything sucks. >> Poor RKO, I guess the Lady Frost match that I heard was so good? >> Damn. >> I guess, I must have been enjoying that, that's too bad. Okay, a few more heat puns and then one jukebox and we're out. >> Okay. >> Kim Gray says John Insinerator. >> [LAUGH] >> Feeling creepy says Kelvin Owens. >> Kelvin Owens. >> Meet Norma says, BBQ R code. >> [LAUGH] >> Bam, bam, Bigelow pressure system. >> Very nice. >> The perfect Tony Storm. >> Very nice. >> Humidity gan knocks. >> [LAUGH] >> Humidity gan knocks. >> It's not the heat, it's the humidity gan knocks, I guess. >> It's the humidity gan, it's the humidity. It's always the humidity gan. Also, I don't know if you're in the chat, but somebody sent something right as we were leaving. Is it a Cardwiz? Are you around? Probably not. >> Yes, he is, look. >> Cardwiz there? >> Yeah, look for you, I'm the twin. >> Awesome, fantastic. >> Sorry, what was your thing? >> May I propose a collision of blind? Two true, one false, you haven't watched yet. >> I haven't watched yet. >> So this is, this is it for you, okay? So two are true and one is a lie. Here we go. >> I'm doing breaker. >> Claudio and the Beast Mortos wrecked a cameraman and camera. Kip Sabian asked kill switch if he could join the patriarchy. And it went poorly. Number three, Jeff Jarrett stole some of Hangman's clothes. >> Okay, the first one was true because I saw it. And I also think it's very fun that Claudio has long term story telling with the cameraman since everyone thought he was the cameraman. [LAUGH] >> I'm gonna say, man, Jeff Jarrett's stealing Hangman's clothes. Feels on par with how angry Hangman was. But I'm gonna say that Kip Sabian was the other truth. >> I don't know, honestly, no, I didn't see it yet, so. >> Well, I thought you ruined the bit. >> I don't know, I was hoping somebody on the chat would know. I don't think part of it I've seen is the MJF promo, that's all I was saying. >> Jeff Jarrett stole Hangman's belt, that's very funny. Good for him. >> All right, good. Okay, so bad apple jam tree beard. Says in honor of friend nastics. >> [LAUGH] >> Ricky Rainbow to sing, why can't we be friends? [BLANK_AUDIO] >> The original one, about the Smash Mouth one, here we go. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? I've seen you around for a long, long time. No, Alex Freezer isn't me. Chat that Alex Freezer wasn't me. Alex Froul was on now. Oh my gosh, my internet connection held up. I'm so flattered, thanks optimum. [LAUGH] I'll do a Ricky Rainbow impression, but I don't have the wig. Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Oh, there you are. >> I don't know what happened, I must have died. >> It's okay, it was probably from the drugs. >> It's probably from the ads on this damn ad. add add. I can't we be friends by war right yeah hold on gonna bring this over here so I can read it and then minimize that and I'm back right that was weird okay so as as we were saying what can we be friends what can we be friends what can we be friends. I've seen you walking down in Chinatown or caused you but you could not look around why can't we be friends what can't we be friends what can't we be friends I paid my money to the welfare line daddy I see you standing in it every time baby why can't we be friends why can't we be friends. Why can't we be friends the color of your skin don't matter to me as long as we can leave in harmony why can't we be friends why can't we be friends. Why can't we be friends why can't we be friends why can't we be friends why can't we be friends why can't we be friends and so it goes on like that. What I'm being called back to the great beyond. Bye. Bye just what happened. Oh so much I'll catch you up offline. Oh my goodness. All right is that it. I think. I think I think the thing so we got everything I mean I think hold on wait wait I just want to make sure. Okay so here's the thing I'm just going to explain because we have some more people watching than normally watch. We have a part of this show that goes through extremely like constructive hyper critical analysis professional wrestling program that we have. We also have a karaoke wheel of impressions and puns and a lot of bits so if you like to get sour but you also are extremely silly and prefer a review show that's kind of a variety hour. To say we're extremely silly we have so much fun and we get we get sour about wrestling so hang out with us we appreciate you joining us tonight but what you showed up to is the real silly part of the show. It comes at the end so if you if you're only here for the for the constructive hyper criticism then you can be here and when we start putting on wigs and doing silly voices. You can be stout. Jay Adam be farm what a guy thank you so much. 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