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Rob, thanks for joining me, man, and how you doing on this beautiful 4th of July. I'm doing good. Thanks for letting me co-host today. So I appreciate it. It's a pleasure. So I'm excited to be here. Absolutely. Well, Rob, it's good to be here with you. You know, obviously you all know Rob from Fightful Overbooked, and from, I mean, really everything on Fightful, but mainly over there with Rob and Maggie co-existing. And also Rob is a die-hard fan of my Minnesota Vikings, just like I am. So we're both NFL fans of the same team. We're always keeping in touch about football and life and wrestling. So Rob, one of my better friends in the wrestling space. I actually use your cups, your glasses you gave me, but you gave me some Vikings glasses years ago that I keep in my kitchen, and anyway, Rob's a very good dude. If y'all don't know Rob somehow, someway, and you've been with Fightful, you're ready to get introduced. Rob's a great dude and a good friend of mine. So I'm glad to have you here, Rob. Thank you. And absolutely. And today's show is sponsored by WrestleRumble.com. I'm going to go and pull this up real quick. Sean Garner asks if we're going to do heat wave predictions. You don't even, we might throw those in there as well. I don't have as much of like a hard out as normal because I don't have to work the shoot job today, and we are not going to run an interview. So there is a chance, we may go through some heat wave predictions for you, Sean. So I'm going to pull up my screen here, and bear with me all, I'm not as good as Jeremy and running these shows here. But we are sponsored by WrestleRumble.com this week for the Money The Bank Pick 'Em Contest and also the tag team back again contest. So basically, if you want to get in on these contests, if you don't win entries today, I'll tell you how to win entries here in just a second here on the show live, but the contest themselves, we got the Money In The Bank Pick 'Em Contest. First, second, and third place are all going to win $500 cash. So huge prizes right there, 500 cash for three people, and all you got to do is be a fan of pro wrestling, and basically you go on there, you're going to be a bunch of questions, winners, losers, probably a bunch of prop picks and stuff like that that have to do with the ladder matches for Money In The Bank. Pull a bunch of questions, whoever gets the most points in those questions wins $500. It's that simple. Over at the tag team back again contest, all you got to do is drop $1 per entry, somebody is going to win both WWE World Tag Team Championship rock with the belts, and that's as simple as that. You enter for $1, you can walk away with hundreds of dollars worth of title belts, and you can do as many entries as you want for that, and they raffle those after Money In The Bank. So if you want to get in on the Money In The Bank Pick 'Em Contest, it's only $12, $21, or $31 for one, three, or five entries, and if you want a free entry from us today, the way to do that is very, very simple, or a reminder you throw out the show and through the predictions for Money In The Bank, all you have to do in the chat is just type the word "wrestle rumble." That's it. As one word or two words doesn't matter, just put "wrestle rumble" in the chat during today's live show. I will pick three random people to have free entries, so basically I get a $12 value, one free entry that could potentially become $500 by just typing "wrestle rumble" in the chat. Everyone's name and a randomizer at the end of the show, and we will pick three winners before we leave here today. So I'll remind you all throughout the show once again, thank you to "wrestle rumble" for joining. And yeah, do you have anything you want to talk about real quick before we get into the wrestling talk, Rob? No, man, I'm good to go, so there's building nothing going on, you know, for July, so I'm just ready to rock. Okay, before we get started, I do have to give a big shout out. So today is one of my favorite days of the year. It's been somewhat tainted this year, but there's a little bit of a save. So for those of you who may not know, you can see it right back here. I am a big fan of Joey Chestnut. This is me and Joey Chestnut at an event. I'm holding the mustard belt. He signed this picture for me, very, very privileged and honored. I'm going to try to get that to stay. It's almost impossible. We'll deal with that later. I had to really mess with getting that to stay up there earlier. I'm very honored to have met Joey Chestnut. I have more things, either autographs from Joey. I haven't got a signed Joey Chestnut Funko Pop. This is a Franco on Wiener, not technically him, but, you know, got it signed because it's a hot dog. And unfortunately, Joey is not competing in the Nathan's hot dog eating contest today, but he is doing his own hot dog eating contest at 5 p.m. Eastern. So pretty excited for that and I'm very excited for the Kobayashi showdown in September. So I wanted to give a big shout out on today's, you know, it is Independence Day. We're thinking about people who served America and people who, you know, were proud of in our heroes. Joey Chestnut deserves to be on that list for me because that man has defended America for decades in the hot dog eating contest. And, you know, I don't like the situation, but he will still be eating hot dogs today. But my day to day, Rob, is basically, we're doing this, then I'm going to watch the Nathan's hot dog eating contest. And then I'm going to watch GCW backyard wrestling and I'm going to watch Joey Chestnut hot dog eating contest. So pretty good for you. You got a busy day planned. So that's nice. Yeah. My one question for you is, have you been in a hot dog eating contest? No. No, I have not. And I usually, now it's up to my brother, my brother's supposed to be coming over with hot dogs when he's off work this morning. So it's on him to pick these up. But I do like to try to eat some hot dogs while I watch the contest. Now I'm not trying to like dip the buns in water and I'm not trying to put down, you know, 60 or 70 like my boy, Joey can. But, you know, I put down a respectable like three, maybe four, you know, fours, a lot. I mean, when you really think about it, anyway, that's so off topic, but kind of on topic because today is the fourth of July, I mean, I'm excited for today and I'm excited for Joey Chestnut. Now you get to see you in the chat, get to see power driver finish in the chat. We got Conda, we got in the chat, we got everyone here in the chat. Thank you very much for joining. If you want to make your voices heard, just type during the show, we'll keep a lookout for it. Once again, just put a wrestle rumble in the chat, I'll give away some entries and I'll give away entries on Twitter as well, a little bit maybe today and tomorrow too. So that said, Rob, you're ready to get into some wrestling talk. Let's do it, man. All right. I got to find the bumpers because I am once again, and not used to doing this. This is usually Jerry's job. Here we go. The topics we are going to talk WWE will do some predictions for money in the bank. I need to finish the story in the WWE, the story never finishes. Money in the bank 2024 coming up. You know what? Before we get into the money in the bank, let's quickly talk about this WrestleMania behind the curtain that aired yesterday. Yeah. How did you feel about that? You know, it was a fascinating watch from the standpoint from where we like in the wrestling media, like per se, well, I think anybody that's a wrestling fan. It was an interesting watch seeing how everything goes into detail and just the little things like the markings that they had for the rock when he had his intro, just in the in depth that they went and how it was planned. I think the one thing I liked a lot was how fightful stories were confirmed, so that made me happy. But it was just fascinating to see the stories and hearing the things that they do and the work that's put in behind the scenes. I mean, it was just the little things that caught my eye more than anything, just Roman Reigns. Just I've never seen so you just be like, roll with it, you know, like, he's such a, he's such a champion and he just so laid back that I just, I really enjoyed that. And the fact that, I mean, like I said, it was the little things like that WrestleMania when they were doing the markings with the musicians, like, so you guys are going to move over here. Like, just the little things where the last person I would expect for them to, for somebody to tell those guys what they would be doing was Triple H, you know, it was just the little things like that and how detailed and how much really work they put into the show more than anything. It's a lot. I knew already it was a lot, but just how much and the conversations and how long this has been talked about. I mean, we've talked about it for a long time about the rock versus Roman Reigns, so, but the fact that they gave the story of how it started was good, how the rock and Nick Khan and Nick Khan's sister just kind of had dinner one night and I just, I loved all that. And then, you know, the rock talked about how he planned his heel turn type, type stuff to Aria Emanuel and they loved it. So it was just so, so good. I recommend anybody to watch it. Even if you're not really a WWE fan, per se, I think you'd still find it fascinating. Yeah, for sure, I mean, it's really because it's free on YouTube, so if you guys want to watch it, let's go on WWE's YouTube channel. It's an hour long, so it's an easy watch, you know, it isn't like a super long drawn out documentary. And it also isn't what I like about it too is, like you said, a lot of it was some stuff was new, you know, stuff that like you're just not used to seeing them taking footage of and stuff like that, which is really cool getting that behind the scenes. And also, there's a lot of the time what WWE does and it's not, I'm not really knocking it because I understand why, but a lot of their documentaries and stuff are kind of a waste of time if you're like a hardcore wrestling fan already because they'd retell a lot of stories that like you already, like I know a lot of people were bummed out, I know this wasn't WWE produced, but like the money, the death of WCW series that just aired on place. Like there was some cool stuff like footage of the last nitro that no one had seen before, like that kind of stuff was cool to see, but like if you follow that story at all, there was nothing really new out of a four episode, you know, documentary where you're just like, well, it's cool. If I didn't know about wrestling, this would be fascinating, but like if you know anything about it, it's like, I already, you know, and I, and I feel like this was different than that because you kind of had an idea about the story and like pile driver finisher saying in the chat, some of it was kind of cat. I get what he's saying there, like, because some of it, like at what point did the rock really decide to pivot and was there any push back from the company of like, hey, maybe the rock was still pushing for it because he's still, he's still the rock and he still wants to get cheered and he still wants to be in the main event, but maybe there was someone behind the scenes outside of him being like, you know, Dwayne, like, this isn't going to work how we're planning, you know, like how, how, how much of it was on who and what and but at the end of the day, they got it right, obviously, I clearly, I wanted Cody Rhodes to win the championship for WrestleMania 40. I wanted to seem to address many 39, but can work out great at WrestleMania 40, so I think Rob. Yeah, no, I mean, that's exactly like what pile driver said that they, WWE has a tendency to fix the narrative in their direction and I get it, they will because it's their show, so they can do that. And I think that's one of the reasons why this show got delayed for so long, because originally, as we remember, it was supposed to be the Wednesday after WrestleMania. So nearly three months later, we finally get to see it. So I do think that, again, what pile driver finisher says is nobody took responsibility and I mean, that's, that's true to, to definitely true to extent, there's nobody to be blamed, but I think there's obviously way more into it than we will get to know because they're going to put the positive light on what they can. And I'm sure that somebody said this is not a good idea, like I, I just, I'm sure everybody that's like in WWE weekly, that's around was like, man, the fans are not going to like this. I mean, that's just my opinion. And so as far as you're talking, the WCW responsibility, exactly that too. It was just one of those things that's in the long run, based off everything we know, it just sounds like Warner didn't want anymore, but again, nobody was taking, taking responsibility. Yeah. I think, I think the WCW thing is way more simple than how it's become way more convoluted over time. I think that, I think it's pretty simple when you look at it now. I could be wrong obviously, but the way I look at the WCW death, and I was a WCW kid. I mean, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia. I was WCW over WWE F pretty much my entire childhood and tell WCW got so bad that I had to start watching WWE F and I was watching both even then, you know, flipping channels back and forth. But what I feel like essentially happened for the death of WCW, it's very simple and it's very obvious. There was a lot of people to blame. There was like, you know, Eric Bischoff's got a part in it, Vince Russo's got a part in it, Turner, AOL, everybody involved, like there was, there's blame to be placed around Paul Cogan. You know, there's, there's definitely people to place blame on, but ultimately it's what you said. After the day, they got to a point where the company was losing money and the people in charge did not want to keep eating the cost of the company. They just weren't interested. They didn't like wrestling. And once Ted Turner didn't have his power anymore after that merger, there was, it was just done. Like, it was that simple. It was a business decision by a company that didn't like wrestling that didn't want to keep losing money on wrestling, you know, but, you know, that said, as far as like the, as far as the behind the curtain WrestleMania documented from yesterday, I thought it was interesting that they had cameras on Cody, like right after the Royal Rumble and like right after the stuff with, with the rock on SmackDown and the ring and stuff like that. Like it's cool that they got that footage, but if I was Cody, actually, I wouldn't want the cameras in my face. So you're like, actually really going through it where it's like, dude, they're telling me I'm not going to be in a Pennsylvania anymore. I used to care about it in my face, in my, in my bust, you know, kind of this sucks, you know, but he was, he was a champ throughout that whole thing and never kept his, never lost, you know, eyes on the prize. Just like me on this show, even during all that, I was saying diamond hands. I'm not, I'm not giving up Cody is going to main event. I don't care what anybody's saying on a character rock says Cody's going to do this. I had to keep believing Cody kept that belief going and one of the things worked out the way that they did ultimately. And I also, I also liked the triple H essentially knowledge on that show too. You know, it was obvious be acknowledged, you know, the plan was going to be Seth Rollins versus CM Punk. CM Punk got hurt at WrestleMania and it looks like they were going to try to do Seth Rollins versus Cody. Like even though the fans rejected it at first when Seth came out and like talked to Cody about challenging him instead of Roman, that seems like that was the route that they were going to ultimately go because neither guy had an opponent and, you know, that changes a lot of stuff too there because like those Damien Priest cash and money in the bank in that case if they do Cody versus Seth, like that changes a lot of things potentially. But once again, they got it right and then we want Cody movement was, you know, for wrestling fans, you want to make your voices heard and be a part of the show and hijack events and stuff like that. If you can, that's the best way possible to do it that we want Cody movement legitimately push the company to choose Cody over the rock, which is completely insane when you really think about how popular and famous the rock is that Cody Rhodes had enough was over enough to kind of overtake that. So, but I'm glad we finally got to see the documentary. Yes. Yeah. And I think even if it was like again, the narrative was changed for the documentary to prove like everything was cool. I do think it was smart for the rock to film it that way to or to make the rock look like everything was like I'm it's my responsibility as somebody like one of the chairman type things or board members rather to to do the what's best in the company and part of me was just like, yeah, but obviously I don't think this was the plan, you know, like I think he thought he could just roll up in there and I don't think he had any idea in the long run. I don't think he had any idea how popular Cody was. That's what I think it all came down to. I think you're totally right about that because they're also talking throughout the documentary and they subtly they did specifically say it a few times, but like they're essentially what I'm trying to say is like, there were multiple times that was referenced. Okay. Maybe we'll just do it next year then the rock in Roman. Like they were kind of talking about that like, you know, okay, we can hold off on next year like Cody's got to do it this year, but then to your point, I think the rock realized during the WrestleMania season and especially at WrestleMania itself and then the rock for WrestleMania they teased it that I think they're going to pivot again and they're going to do Cody versus Roman instead of the rock versus Roman, but it depends on when they do that because we obviously need to get the rock versus Roman at some point. Don't get me wrong. Like, and they said it in the documentary and I agree. Any other time in the history of wrestling rock versus Roman would have been biggest match of all time, like no doubt, no one would have stepped in the way of that like that's they wanted that match for years and years and years, but the timing of Cody being so over and it's to their credit too because whether whether I completely believe it or not, you know, because Triple H said right after WrestleMania 39, the plan was to have Cody do a hot year heading into WrestleMania 40 and challenge for the title again. Now, was that really the plan all the way from WrestleMania 39? I don't know because WrestleMania 39, I truly believe Cody was going to win that championship and then the sale was happening and the new ownership was probably telling Triple H and Vince at the time, like listen, we just bought this thing like Roman's approving commodity, we like him as the champion, we don't want to change this right now. You know, there's probably multiple factors at play, but a sense regardless, my point really is that I don't know if it truly was the plan from WrestleMania 30 to make like ironclad that Cody was going to main event WrestleMania 40, but along the way, Cody did such a great job in that one year between 39 and 40 that it was under literally undeniable and they were so invested that like they had to hold a trigger with him at WrestleMania 40. So, I like that we got kind of the insight into that and a little bit into kind of Triple H's, my moment it comes to that, but I think that you're completely right about that is that when the rock came back in, they didn't, they couldn't foresee that anything would be bigger than the rock or it's like he came in to be a heel, it's the way that it worked out is was fantastic, I love the final loss heel rock gimmick. So, maybe we get, yeah, awesome and maybe we get, you know, maybe we get Cody and the rock at the Royal Rumble and then like Roman and rock or WrestleMania, I mean, we got two night WrestleMania's. So like, maybe these guys are going to perform multiple times during WrestleMania, I don't know, but they got options and now we have more, it's awesome that the rocks back and he's killing it and he's interesting again. And when he comes back here, the built in feud with Cody right there waiting for him and you have the built in thing with Roman right there waiting for him. So he has two massive money matches, whereas when he came into the company, he was probably thinking he had the one with Roman, but now he's got two massive ones to look forward to. So any pin for any pin Cody or WrestleMania, I mean, this whole thing writes itself. So go ahead, Rob. >> Yeah, again, exactly plus the thing that's come out of the sense WrestleMania is just everything with the bloodline has just been really good. So right now, I mean, you've seen plenty of tweets, I even tweeted it last week. When Roman comes back, wherever they are, I hope and pray they don't announce him coming back, they just have to do it kind of like John Cena, when he returned at Money in the Bank a few years ago, I can literally see Roman getting that stone colds Steve Austin running in for mankind title thing where that crowd just blows the roof off because that's what's going to happen. Once you hear that music go for the bloodline and whoever they're facing, which I'm probably thinking it's going to be SummerSlam is my guess or it could be as soon as this weekend possibly, you know, I don't know, but we'll talk about that in the prediction segment. So I'm fascinated, I will watch this again probably in a week or so. >> The documentary? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, this was good stuff and I mean, that's a good segue into the Money in the Bank predictions because there is plenty we can talk about, especially when it comes to the bloodline story, because I agree with you, I think the bloodline story has been great since WrestleMania and they're clearly building to Roman coming back as a baby case. As you mentioned, it could be as early as this weekend, it could be maybe SummerSlam. But yeah, we got a lot to look forward to at that. And I'm also interested when Roman comes back, because he will be such an overbaby case. I feel like you got to separate him and Cody, I feel like you got to find a way to get Cody back on Raw as the champion and then Roman continue to be the top guy on SmackDown, feuding against the bloodline. And it'd be cool to see that Cody and Roman kind of teaming up as well, that'd be cool to see, but I also, it's also going to just be interesting if you have both those guys, the top baby faces, because it's going to split the crowd at least a little bit. I think there's going to be a lot of Roman fans that are going to want him to be Cody in like a trilogy, you know what I mean? So, but they have a lot to work with and we'll go ahead and move into Money in the Bank. Once again, we are giving away Wrestle Rumble entries for Money in the Bank. If you want a shot at a free entry, just put the word Wrestle Rumble in the chat during the show. I'll pick winners at the end, but as far as Money in the Bank goes Rob, that is this weekend. It is on the almost at the WWE Network, depending on where you live, I guess it's still technically WWE Network, but Peacock for us here in the States. And we have five matches on the card in contrast to, for instance, for Fight Forever, it's the video game for VinDore, geez. For VinDore had like 14, 15 matches between the pre-show and the in the pay-per-view. I know that cost some online discourse, I saw Jeremy Lambert put some stuff out there. But you know, two different companies, two different types of shows, I think that both can exist in this world of wrestling. I think if you're a hardcore fan that just wants to see banger matches and, you know, you just wanted to tune in. Like, I feel like for VinDore still gave you, for sure, your money's worth. You know what I mean? Like as a wrestling fan, there was a great show from top to bottom. But I also really look forward to these five match shows, but they're going to be those for their PLEs that they just heavily focus on everything and everything really gets its own spotlight and it really feels like it's segmented for all five of these. And it's just the different type of vibe, different type of production. But it's all great. I think it's great for wrestling fans. We have both options. Obviously, I like to watch both. So it's great for me. As far as, oh, yeah, sorry, Rob, do you have something? No, I was just agreeing with you. I think you hit it right on the head there. The five matches, they get to go, like you said, they put a no pun intended, but they put the spotlight on each one, make it feel more important than normally they would because usually we'd get with WWE, usually we'd get six to probably eight pay per new matches. So going down to five, I think is a good thing. And I mean, if there's, I wouldn't mind a pre-show match ever once in a while, because sometimes those pre-shows can get very repetitive with what they're doing, but that's mainly just a minor complaint of anything. But I'm fine with the way they do it now with the five matches. So I'm with you, and I would expect I'll probably add like a pre-show match or two. This are the crowds I'm sitting around not doing anything. But that said, we do have five matches on the show. Sorry, my phone is, sorry, there's actually people hit me up about like happy, uh, before the July, they're, it's funny because this is such a side thing, but there's, there's two things that make people reach out to me more than my birthday. Like my birthday is like the one time a year where I'm like expecting to hear some people like from people that like I haven't heard from for a while, even it's just like, oh, what's up or a happy birthday, that's the kind of the day I always have pencil and just like everyone where I'm like, it'll be nice to kind of just hear from some people, hopefully I haven't heard from it a while and just kind of catch up a little bit. There are two instances where I get more than that. It is when something happened with Cody Rhodes, anything big with Cody, people blow me up in anything that has to do with Joey chess night, people will blow me up. And if you see me going, Joey's way, Joey's still competing and I'm like, no, no, no. It's a different thing, but he is so eating hot balls so they don't worry everyone. Yeah. I know like whenever something bad would happen with Cody or negative, negatively, I would always DM you like just, you know, like, oh, I'm sorry, dude, you know, like, because I get it. Like I really do because it's, it's wild how people. And I, I don't want to say, I do appreciate it. I know, I want people to know to not take it so seriously. I would never like, obviously I never like actually, though I'd never do anything serious or harmful in any way, shape or form based on any that's to do with Cody Rhodes or Joey chess night. It's all in good fun, but it is, and I do appreciate because people will reach out to me and literally check on me and be like, man, are you okay? Yeah. And like you're one of those people, Maggie is one of those people actually. And I appreciate y'all as friends reaching out because it is a bummer when some of the stuff happens. But, but I'm not, at the end of the day, it's just wrestling. It's just like, it's like, it's, it's, I'll, I'll be okay, but, um, but I do appreciate the, uh, it's a very thoughtful and y'all reach out about that kind of stuff. Um, that said, was awesome, was awesome running the bank. Um, so let's start off with, uh, hmm, you know, it's sort of with the women's running the bank. I feel like that's one's probably the most, um, the most obvious or at least the one where I think most people are choosing maybe the same predictions. So we have the money in the bank, women's at championship ladder match. I'm sorry. I apologize. Ladder match for a shot at the women's championship. I got to specify that the winner or force gets the, y'all know the money in the bank works at this point, unless you just have to watch your wrestling, which is totally fine if that's the case and welcome, welcome to the world of wrestling. But y'all know the money in the bank is at this point, um, women's money in the bank. We have EOS guy Chelsea Green, Lyle Valkyria, Tiffany Stratton, Naomi and Zoey Stark. Rob, who do you think becomes Miss Money in the Bank? I think, I think we love the talk and just how popular she is. I think that you, I think they're going with Tiffany Stratton. I think that's a consensus, the consensus out there for her. I think that's the right way to go to, I mean, that's, that's the thing. I look at who's all in there and you have, you have Zoey Stark, you have Naomi and just, you know, I just, I can't picture them just carrying that, that briefcase for a while. Tiffany, she can, she can use that like they, we always know that the briefcase is better with a heel because they can use that as a weapon. They can, they can, yeah, I know that's why I left there because she's, because I can't usually remember anything I say. So that's what's fun about me. But yeah, Tiffany Stratton's going to win this. There's, I just don't see it happen, happening where she loses. I'm, I do find it pretty fascinating that Bianca nor Jader in this. Yeah. I did, I did find that fascinating because I thought one of them would get in because that would kind of parlay into the future, like they're, because we know they're going to feud eventually, you know, so I thought that would have been a good starting point, like one of them is in it, the other one's not, but maybe they're just waiting. So I just, I was hoping Dakota Sky would make that final spot instead of Zoey, but, you know, it is what it is. So. Yeah. And yeah, that's a good point about, about Jade and Bianca because considering they just lost the women's tag titles, and I did it, like the title change happening at Clash of the Castle, like that would make for, you know, a good moment and everything, but they are clearly building towards something between Bianca and Jade one on one, which I'm looking forward to. You know, I think, I think Bianca is legitimately one of the most talented athletic people on the WWE roster of any gender, like I think she's, she's money, like I think Bianca is a massive, massive part of WWE's present and future. And I love Jade. You know, I've talked about it before, Jade lives locally to me. I've seen her in person at my Walmart before, I've seen her at Hawks games before, and any time I've ever run into her, it's not like she knows who I am, it's something like that. But I, I, every time I've walked up to her and been like, yeah, I actually, the last time I saw her, she was still with AEW. It's been a while. And I was like, hey, I'm a big fan. I was actually going into Walmart to look for AEW action figures. So like, I saw her in Walmart while I was, while I was a figure hunting. And, and I was like, hey, a huge fan, you know, love AEW and what you guys are doing. Like your match was Shaq was awesome, you know what I mean? And, and she was super, super nice. So I was like, well, I just love those experiences where like the kind of like, you know, never meet your heroes kind of thing, like Jade was super cool. And then I actually like tweeted about it after it happened. I was like, I was like, hey, I just met Jade, I just met Jade Cargill. She was super, super cool. Like I'm always, I was already a fan, but like I'm always going to be a fan after that. And then she want to follow me back on, on X right after Twitter, so all the time, right after that. And I was like, man, I am team Jade forever. Like she didn't have to do any of this. You know what I mean? Like what a cool person. Yeah. You know, so I, I just, I'm always going to be team Jade. Um, but that said is for, oh sorry, go ahead, bro. No, that's, that's, I mean, that's, I get it. Like that's how, how I would feel too, like, you know, that's, because in the long run, we're still like, die hard fans too, you know, and it's like, you know, how everybody is followed by John Cena, you know, like, yes. I still find that just fascinating like that. It's pretty cool, you know, just, and like I said, everybody, it seems like it's followed by him. So it's just one of those things where it's just, it's just cool. Like when it happens and it sucks too when like you get, when it sucks, like too when like a wrestler or somebody blocks you, like, you know, that, that part sucks. Like I've, I made a joke about it by now, like now that I, I just like Tony Shavani like big time. Like I've never done anything, but it's just kind of like my bit now. And I mean, I, I was told why it's because of where I work and because of the name in my profile. But hey, that I'd rather just keep it that way and it is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is, man. It's weird. Like, cause like you said, at the end of the day, that's all I am as a wrestling fan. I'm just, I'm just happy and fortunate that I have, you know, opportunities on Fightful and this platform to be able to come on and talk about wrestling here and talk about independent wrestling over on the weekend or like, uh, but yeah, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just a fan. That's, that's how I look at it as well. A hundred percent. And you know, I've, I've been blocked by the one that I regret the most is being blocked by Rampage Jackson, cause I've always been a fan of his and now he's like back in wrestling and needed blood sport and like the reason I got blocked by him was so funny. It's so random because I gave him a compliment that he misunderstood and he blocked me. Like I was being like, I, it's, it's a long story, but essentially to make a long story short. So they're at one point, uh, Rampage Jackson was, he had already fought for pride. He already fought for the UFC and at the time he was signed to Bellator and his contract with Bellator, he was trying to get out of and the UFC was trying to put him in a UFC fight. They were trying to bring him back and have him fight. I believe Fabio Maldonado at the time and they announced it for pay per view. So I got hyped up. I was like, hell yeah, Rampage is coming back to the UFC. Like I can't wait to buy this pay per view. And then there was contract disputes where Bellator was like, no, no, no, he's still technically under contract for that. He can't fight at this pay per view for the UFC until this contract gets figured out. So then I went to Twitter and I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to order this pay per view anymore because they don't have Rampage. Like I was buying this for Rampage and he somehow misunderstood that as like, I don't like Rampage or like, I'm not buying this because of Rampage or whatever. Because ultimately it wound up getting fixed and he wound up fighting on the show. So like my tweet didn't even matter because he wound up on the show anyways. But it was one of those things where I was like, damn it, like I'd like to be able to treat the dude and be like, dude, blood sport, that was awesome, but he'll never see the tweet because I'm blocked. So like, but yeah, it's a bonger when that happens. But it was a misunderstanding, Rampage, if you were anyone your team ever sees it, I'm a fan. I'm a lifelong fan. I'm still a fan. It was a total misunderstanding. So like, I love the 18 man. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I love the 18 movie. So it didn't do too well in the theaters and people thought it was crap. I was enjoyed. I thought it was actually well done, but yeah, I'm very easily entertained too. So that was already like a decade ago, man. That's so wild to think about that. By the way, as far as the women's buying the bank, I'm taking Tiffy time as well. I think it's a pretty obvious pick, but I think it's the right choice. And for what it's worth, you know, I've gotten very into collecting the trading cards. Like I do a lot of these box breaks now and like whatnot and stuff or like I basically time share expensive boxes of cards and pick your wrestlers and whatnot. And Tiffany Stratton is a very valuable and very sought after right now. And that's something that I always keep an eye on for like who's getting pushed and who isn't and stuff like that is how expensive is their merchandise, how much is their merchandise selling, how much are people willing to buy their cards and their action figures, you know, secondhand and stuff like that. Tyler Deanna in the chat with the Russell Rumble, Tyler, you're going to be in the raffle. Anyone who wants Russell Rumble entries, we're picking three people at the end of the show just put Russell Rumble in the chat like Tyler did. If there's only one person, I'm going to give them all three. If there's only three people, all three people are going to win. So like it's up to you guys. I know it's an early show, by the way, I really appreciate y'all for joining us this early on a holiday. So anyone who's even here is very much appreciated and everyone who watches on demand later on, I appreciate y'all as well. But yeah, I think Tiffany is going to win and I think that she's we'll get to the men's but I think that Tiffany is going to hold the briefcase a lot longer than whoever the men's winner is and we'll get to my reasoning for that. But we both got Tiffany Stratton and I think she'll ultimately cash in at some point and win the championship, but she'll hold it for a little while. Well, what I'm starting to wonder now, like at first, a couple of weeks ago, I was thinking Chelsea Green and I would be completely okay with Chelsea Green winning. But now that now that Nia Jax who has a title shot at SummerSlam coming up and now we're seeing Tiffany with her kind of like they're kind of doing their little thing together. I'm starting to think maybe Tiffany is going to turn on her or do something at SummerSlam. Like Nia will just hold that belt for a minute or two because I can see a cash in like right now the way it's headed, I completely think that's where that's where it's going right now. I like that. So that which is surprising me because when the Royal Rumble ended last year, I was like Tiffany Stratton is going to win this next year, but now I'm not now I think it could be somebody completely different. So if if she wins so for me it was for me it was money in the bank or not so I don't mind in the bank. I apologize, those were talking about now, but for me it was elimination chamber. Like when she was in that chamber match, she was massively over and I was like, she's got the look, she's got that athleticism, she's new, she's fresh to the company. Like people can kind of become like day one fans of her and like follow her along the journey. Like this is this is money. I mean the WWE Women's roster between all their shows is so stacked right now. They got so much talent even to your point like Nia Jax, who you just mentioned who is you know, Queen of the Ring and has the title shot at Summer Slam of course. I was not a fan of Nia before she left up at a B, but since coming back, I think she's doing great. I got even credit where it's due. Yeah. You can change my mind like yeah, yeah, I know it's crazy like she went from like my hole to like now you're like, hey, good job, good for you, you turned it around. I'm not going to forget about her yelling my hole, but yeah, right. See there's that, there's like her punching Becky in the face. There's little things here and there that may be very unlikable to me on that first run. And I felt like it was kind of nepotism being like the rocks, family and all that stuff. And then when she came back, like she's, I honestly think she's done a great job and I love that bond that I dropped, she hit to win the, was it to win the Queen of the Ring where she did the one that was standing all the way to the, all the way to the mat. So man, I'm, I'm the fan. So, um, that said, we both got Tiffany Stratton tiffy time leaving a money in the bank, uh, with the women's briefcase next match we got here, let's go, you know, let's go six man tag match because I doubt this will be the main event. And obviously this has a lot of storyline built in. We got Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton and Kevin Owens taking on the bloodline. It'd be some sort of combination of solo secoa, Tamatanga, Tonga Loa and, um, and Jacob by two, I'm assuming it'll probably be Tomatanga, Tonga Loa and solo secoa with Jacob by two on the outside. I'm assuming they'll probably save Jacob until later could be wrong. I think Jacob was the most talented in ring of all of them. So I'd like to see Jacob at the ring of course. But, uh, that said, Rob, I'm going to say, we'll kind of switch off here and like first prediction. I'll say that, uh, I'll say the bloodline wins this one and I'll say soul secoa pins Cody Rhodes. Um, and that's obviously I don't like making that prediction, but it's, it's to lead into a one on one match, uh, between Cody and solo at SummerSlam unless Randy Orton turns, which could potentially, at some point, we're going to be Cody and Randy. It doesn't matter like when that happens when Randy turns, but it feels like they're going towards solo and Cody at SummerSlam. So, um, I'll say solo pins Cody to continue to set that up. How do you feel? Yeah. I was going to say the same. I, we're definitely headed towards a Randy versus Cody and I think this past week, we saw it more than I think this was the biggest hint when Randy just looked at that title this past week on Raw. I think that was the biggest like, okay, it's going to happen eventually. Is it going to be this weekend? No, not necessarily, you know, it could be down the road. I do think this is just my opinion. I do think if, if this match main events, the show, I think it's a real possibility that Roman appears that that's my thing. Yeah. I'm with you there. If, if this show, I'll, I'll, I'll double down on that if, yeah, this, if this match made events Cody, sorry, this match main events, Roman is returning. If not, you're not. Yeah. I just have a feeling like he, if it was, if it was my call, I think, I think he returns the, the SummerSlam. That's how I would do it. Cody versus solo, Cody wins because solo loses. That's when Roman comes back and just, yes, but whoopsie. Yeah. I'm with you there. I think that makes perfect sense considering solo, basically took over the head of the table based on Roman losing at WrestleMania and saying that like losers need to be punished and then he would be the loser. So I'm, I think that's actually exactly what's going to wind up happening wrong, wrong, but it's just a rod or wrong. Um, anyway, uh, yeah, I'm bad about, um, I do this on the weekender a lot and I try to edit it out if I can, but I try not to edit the weekender if possible, but I, because I'm always looking at like names and like match finishes that I write down, I, I combine words on accident. Like I'll say two words is one word. Like I just did that with your name, um, but I, uh, yeah, that, that's just something that I, I try to get better on that myself. So I, I get it like, it's, it can be weird. You know, the other thing too that just kind of came to my mind is I don't necessarily know if I would want, and I'm skipping ahead here, but I, in a way, I kind of don't want solo to lose at summer slam, I don't want them to be Cody, but I would actually rather see just something, because I don't think, I think you have to keep solo going where he's not losing. So in a way, I kind of hope they, they figure something out before then, and I, I'm kind of hoping we get, and now I'm kind of hoping we get Cody versus Randy now that's a, that's actually what I'm hoping for, so I'm actually rooting for Roman to be back this week, weekend more than I was, because I think it's easier with the six man tag for him to come back than with Cody, because if you're doing the head of the table stuff, I mean, Roman could go right back as a heel, and I don't think they want to go that route. I think the best thing is he comes out to make the save and, or he just has enough, because I, I think they set it up right now with what they do with Paul Heyman, obviously Roman ain't going to handle that, and here we go. Off to the races. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I wrote all of that, by the way, I think that if it was up to me personally, I would do Cody versus Randy at summer slam. Not only do I think that's a better match with more story, because you go all the way back to the days of the legacy with Cody and, and Orton in that build up, obviously there's a lot of seeds there and there's plenty that you do with Cody and solo and you can always revisit that. But I'm with you too, about the idea of solo losing, it's, it's like I'll lose lose, because you don't want solo to lose right now. So close to Roman returning, given the storyline, you also don't want Cody losing the championship right now for like obvious reasons he's, they're John Cena right now, he's, he's moving merch, they're selling tickets. I mean, like you can't, you can't have Cody take the L and lose the championship right now either. So, um, it's an interesting spot to be in, I feel like there's so many of us solo and Cody because of the build, but I personally speaking, I'm with you, I would rather see Cody versus Orton at summer slam, but, um, by official prediction, I do think solo is going to pin Cody at, uh, at money in the bank. I don't like it. All right. I don't like making these kind of predictions. I don't like to pick against Cody. It's like for the Vikings, right? Like, I'll literally never pick against the Vikings when I do any kind of like gambling or anything like that. I'll never do it. I don't even pick people in the NFC North outside of the Vikings on my fantasy teams ever. I just can't cheer for these, these teams, you know what I mean? So I'm just too biased, but I will, I will, I will push that aside when it comes to this match and I'll take solos to co-op any Cody Rhodes. So, that's pretty big of like you out of all, like everybody, but yeah, I think Maggie makes a good point death taxes and KO getting pinned by the bloodline, you know, that's the other thing. So, um, but I think Cody getting pinned is probably the right call because that gives you your, that gives you your potential main event at Sunburst Land 2. Yeah. And also, you know, we know that there's going to be, it's already, it may be four on three. It'll be three on three technically, but you know, there's going to be four numbers of the bloodline, at least, because who knows if Hichelayo maybe makes his debut to help as well. I mean, there's other members of the bloodline that haven't come in yet. We're going to talk about Zilla Fauci when we talk to ECW in a little bit. Um, I don't expect Zilla to come in right now, but, um, it's always a possibility. Like there's a lot of these, there's a lot of these family members in the bloodline that have not debuted yet. Hichelay is the one that seems the most possible, like in the short term, they, they, uh, copyrighted the name Tala Tonga, a little while back. So that's probably that's going to be now that said, they did, they did license, I believe the name Caesar Fauci for, uh, for Jacob, a Caesar Fauci, or Caesar's Circoa maybe. Um, but they've kept him with Jacob Fauci. So who knows what Hichelayo will ultimately be called when he comes in, but, um, yeah, but does this something to keep in mind? There might be other members of the bloodline. This might wind up being way more than just four on three and that's why the baby cases wind up losing. So a lot of that happened. And I, I've said this on my show before, I think we're going to get, I think we're going to get to survivor series and war games and we're going to see the five bloodline, bloodline members get back together is what I think we're going to see. And I'm talking about same, um, yeah, and then you get, well, you have to add somebody else in there because I think one of these new people needs to be part of the Roman side is what I really hope they do. So. I, I think that solo is going to wind up back with the bloodline eventually. Like I think, I think solo is going to wind up back with them. Like something will happen where like Jacob bought two is like so unhinged is that like solo can't keep him in control to the problem with not really a problem, but something they're going to run into a Jacob. And I know this, and I'm sure you do as well, you know, I, I covered previously his whole MLW career. Um, I watched a lot of his indies and stuff like that and he's in better shape now than he was on the indies. You know, he's got his leaner. He's a dude who like, if they go, if they just let him do his thing out there, he's going to outshine all of these everyone else in the bloodline because Jacob watch you can do triple jump, moonsault and Fosbury flops of the outside and, but he's also got the strength like throw you six feet in the air before he smokes you and stuff like that. So it's one of those things where like, if you have him got there and his do his thing next to the rest of the bloodline, he's going to wind up getting over probably accidentally, like he's going to start getting cheered probably. So you probably need to figure a way of like making him, well, here's the thing. The leader of the new bloodline eventually is going to be revealed to be the rock. I'd imagine anyway. Yes. And the rocks going to wrestle also at some point again soon too. So like, there's a lot of, so I don't know if solo is going to be the one to jump back or how long it'll take to do that, but I could see a scenario where the original bloodline is all together, like including solo. And then the other side with the rock, you have Jacob, Tonga Tonga, Tonga Loa, Picoleo, you know, maybe more members of the, you know, they haven't incorporated like Nia Jackson to this, but they could, like there's women they could bring into this story as well and stuff. So like there's, there's a lot they can do still, but solo is the big wild card X factor in this. I'm like, what side is he going to ultimately fall on? But I mean, when Jacob got to powerbomb Paul Heyman through that announce table, it made, to me, I'm like, they're, they're going to, like, Jacob's gonna, I think, eventually be leading this group or be kind of like the surrogate leader while the rock is like giving the orders of that makes sense. Yeah. That's what I think's going on too. Yeah. So good stuff. I'm moving on. We have a WWE Intercontinental Championship match, Sammy Zayn, defending against Braun Breaker. Do you think that Braun Breaker runs through Sammy just like he has pretty much everyone else on the main roster and wins I see title or does Sammy prevail and retain? You know, the way they were going, like the biggest thing I can't stand is when WWE puts a wrestler like that just comes up like on a, like absolute big hot streak where they're, but they're beating people that for all, they always lose, you know, like, I mean, or they bring in, you know, I'm not saying their job is obviously, but you know who's going to win right away. So the, the fact that they've made him mow down everybody he's gone against, it kind of makes me say like automatically as well, they're going to put him over, but there's also a part of me that says they can do a feud with these two a lot longer if they want to. So it's, it's one of those things where I go and you can get another month out of this if they, if they somehow figure out how to get Sammy Zayn the victory here, maybe it's a disqualification and I hate prediction predicting disqualifications. But this is one with everything that's been going on with him. As far as like getting suspended, I could see him losing his cool and just basically doing everything he can to punish Sammy. I just know Sammy is going to be leaving her, you know, that's, that's what I think. So I just, I don't think you put the title on him yet as weird as that sounds. I think, I think you can build this for another month and let him pick it up some recently. I really, really do. Yeah. And then also, you know, the kind of the wild card there is like Chad Gable, but he's been sidetracked with the Wyatt six stuff now, but Gable is the one who they really have been spotlighting in for months now as far as him being the successor and him being the next I see champion. And that goes all the way back to like midway through Gunther's reign with the title. So I always have that in the back of my mind too a little bit that maybe they're eventually going to pull the trigger with Gable and the few with Gable on Sammy's, I thought was so good with Gable's heel turn and everything. I'm not going to overthink this. I'm just going to say that Braun Raker just wins, but I'm, but I think that you're, you're right in what you're saying, like they could easily get more months out of this and have, you know, kind of like a teaser match here and then like a, like a proper title match and passing of the torch, maybe a little later on at SummerSlam or something. I do appreciate the debit to be his pushing Braun Raker. Like I like, I like to do his vibe. I was always a big signer, bros fan. Like, I especially think that Scott signer is like, people can have their opinions of him and especially like later on with the big pop of pump stuff and the signer math and all the goofiness and all that. But like, when you look at that dude's career from the time he started as like the dude with like the, like the Jerry curl with like the colorful, you know, and that's all like it. Yeah. Yeah. Like even back then, for people who don't know, that dude was such an innovator. Like he was doing 450 splashes and like the, in Hurricane Ron was a Frankenstein. So call him Hurricane Ron is around him, like he was doing Frankensteiners and he was doing that Steiner screwdrivers. I mean, his move set is like one of my favorite movesets in wrestling history, honestly. Yeah. And the way that he evolved his character, it's funny because my brother, who's, I always talk about him because like he's not, he would never watch wrestling on his own, but he knows more than like the average fan, just because of how often he's around me when I'm watching it. But we were playing the WWE 2K game that have got the poster behind me. And we were playing that on PS5 and my brother saw Scott Steiner because they had the Steiner brothers version of him on the game. And he was like Scott Steiner, like he thought there was like a guy who was like ripping off. He didn't, he didn't put it together. Like, no, no, that's the same, Scott Steiner, big pop of pop, like that's the same dude. Yeah. And he was mind blown. He was like, no way. He used to look like this. Like what is the same guy? And then he saw the moveset. And I was like, dude, the guy used to be able to move around too. Like, I started showing him all the highlights and stuff and he was like pretty mind blown. But anyway, I brought all that up because Ron Breaker reminds me obviously of his dad and his uncle a lot. And you know, there's something to this, the raw grittiness of like a guy like Ron Breaker that you don't want her to be unsafe, but there's like that kind of element somewhere to Goldberg where like he's hitting people really hard. Like this might be real, you know, and that's, that's what I think he brings to the table. When you see Braun Breaker spear somebody you're like, how do you take that and it's safe? You know, like he's, he's out there killing people is what it looks like, which is the whole point. Anyway, I would take Braun Breaker, but I could just as easily see Sami's aim retaining in them, you know, pushing this farther. So. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. It's going to be a good one though, I think, because I know Sami's not going to just lay down on either. You know, he's not going to take the finger poke to do finger poke to death and you know, take a spear right away and they'll call it. So I think this match will go probably 10 to 15 minutes. So. Yeah. It should be good stuff for, for whatever we get. Um, all right. Now I'm going to, now we'll do men's money in the bank because I think that there could be ramifications on the world title match. So we'll kind of put all that together. So for the men's money in the bank ladder match, we have Jey Uso, Carmelo Hayes, Andrade, Chad Gable, L, A, Knight, yeah, and Drew McIntyre. So going into this match before Monday, before they did the qualifier between Sheamus Drew and Ilya, which was a banger of a triple threat, by the way, um, on the weekender, I had floated the idea. It's not going to happen, but I had floated the idea of Dragunov winning that triple threat by beating Sheamus and then Dragunov actually winning money in the bank to set up Gunther versus Dragunov at the Germany show, um, which, you know, that would be pretty wild. Um, and for people of mine, I know Ilya and Gunther have a story history in WWE in their system because Ilya has actually defeated Gunther on NXT UK to win that championship. I think you also did it on the main show to win their, the main NXT championship. You might have also, I don't know if you beat Gunther or not for that. I can't remember who had the championship when he. I believe so. I believe that. I feel like, I feel like Dragunov has beaten Gunther twice on NXT and NXT UK. It could be totally wrong. And Gunther has also beaten him. My point is there's very few people who have wins, especially multiple wins over Gunther in the WWE system or really in his career in general. He's been very protected this whole, this whole run, including the indies. And Dragunov is that guy, like, and you know, they're going to have like just a classic five star match with one another every single time. So I thought that that was a possibility. Now we're going to have to shell that for later on, but I do think that Gunther to this is one of the things that's so convoluted, right? Because Gunther has the guaranteed title shot at SummerSlam. So that has to be in the back of our mind when we're predicting all of this. And I do think that Gunther is going to win the championship at SummerSlam as well, regardless of who the champion is going in. I think Gunther leaves SummerSlam as the World Heavyweight Champion. So I have to keep all that in mind when I'm making all these predictions right now. That said, the reason I'm going to, I'm going to, sorry, go ahead Rob. Well, I went ahead and looked at Walter and Tyler Beit. So Walter beat him at takeover Cardiff in 2019. So you're looking at Beit or Dragunov? Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. You said Beit or you said Dragunov? That's my bad. Yeah. Sorry. No, I love Tyler Beit too, by the way. That's another guy that like, you could do, if they could push Tyler Beit to the point of like them being believable against Gunther, I'd be all for that. Oh, hell yeah. You got a Gunther and Dragunov up? Yeah, that's what I'm pulling up now because I'm curious about that when you said it. So I know for sure he beat him for, I'm almost positive because I was covering it for the weekend or at the time. I'm almost positive Gunther beat Dragunov, their first meeting in NXT UK, Dragunov beat him in the rematch to win the championship. And then I think they had another match on the main NXT show that could be wrong. Yeah. Yep. They've wrestled each other technically four times in NXT UK. But two of them were tag team matches. The first match was at NXT UK taping 116, and it was Walker over Dragunov by referee decision. And then take over 36 at the performance center, Dragunov beat him for the title. That's, okay, that makes sense because take over 36, that was technically a NXT branded not an ice UK. Okay. Yeah. That's why I'm getting a little confused. So that totally makes sense. Now, yeah, I want to try it. But I love Ilya, and I, but that all said, that's kind of where my head was at. And I do think that Gunther vs Ilya, we'll eventually get for the WWE championship because once again, it's just their rivalry and they're gonna have such a great match with one another for a new set of eyes. A lot of people who didn't see their NXT stuff would see this on the main roster. Until everybody to watch that match, they asked for a good match to watch, I tell them to watch that. Yeah. So good. And so I'm gonna kind of lay all this out, Rob, my whole scenario, and I apologize in advance if I'm taking any of your talking points away from you by putting all this out there. And please feel free to agree or disagree when I finish. My line of thinking, and I think there's probably quite a few people who feel this way. By the way, put Wrestle Rumble in the chat, if you want to want to wrestle on blank read at the show. I think Drew McIntyre is gonna win Money in the Bank. I love Drew McIntyre. I think in the World Heavyweight Championship, I think he's gonna win Money in the Bank. The last chance match between Damian Priest and Seth Rollins. Regardless of how it goes down, I don't know if it'll be after the match, like if Rollins is gonna be Priest or vice versa, if Priest retains. But I think the most likely scenario, if I had to make a guess and put money on it, I think Drew McIntyre pulls a Seth Rollins and he comes out mid match to make it a triple threat. Drew McIntyre is about to win the title. CM Punk comes out and costs Drew McIntyre the match. So that Drew wins Money in the Bank, catches the briefcase, does not win the championship. It's CM Punk's fault. Damian, I mean, really Damian or Seth, it really doesn't matter who wins at the end of the day because I think that person's gonna lose to Gunther at SummerSlam anyways. But that's my prediction is that Drew McIntyre wins Money in the Bank, catches it in before the end of the show and Punk costs him the cash in to continue to build Punk vs Drew, which really, at this point, doesn't need a championship attached because it's such a big match. Yeah. Because you make an excellent point there. Like if Drew wins, we know he's facing Gunther at SummerSlam, so that kind of takes. I mean, that obviously depends on CM Punk too, if he's even close to being ready, which I think he must be, I think he's probably getting closer than we think because it wouldn't make that much sense for him just for Drew to drop it with CM Punk and just move on to Gunther. Well, that would be the main caveat, Rob, would be if Punk isn't ready, you can change horse massively if Punk isn't gonna be ready to WrestleMania, or sorry, no, like Royal Rumble or something like that, but I'm going into this, like I'm assuming Punk's gonna be ready by SummerSlam, that's like, that's my line I'm thinking. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly the right, I think that's the right line of thinking too, because I think Gunther is winning the title too at SummerSlam, regardless of who he wrestles, so I think you're pretty much spot on with that, it just really depends on if they let Drew win it, if they want to continue that, which I mean, it's their form to do, you know, like it gives him more to add on and like you can get more fans not happy with CM Punk about doing what he did, because I've noticed that, I've noticed a lot of more people have been cheering for Drew more and more lately, so I think, in a way, I think if they continue this, I think it'll just get bigger for Drew, so maybe that's the way they want to go, because I think CM Punk's gonna be turning heel eventually. Which I think would be, I mean, people who watch my shows know how I feel about CM Punk, but like, I think that, I think, you know, because of my feelings of CM Punk, I don't view Drew as a heel during all of this, which is, you know, it's interesting, because I see both guys as tweeners, it's really one of those things where like, depending on if you like, Punk, you like, Drew, that's kind of who you're riding with for this thing, but it's a unique spot for them to be, to be in with both those guys, because they're both so over in their own ways that the crowd is going to make noise, like, it's okay that neither side has been really, like, technically speaking, Drew is probably vibing more heel in the grand scheme of things, but if you don't like CM Punk, Drew's the biggest baby case on the show, so, you know, that's kind of where I'm at, so that's how I view it. I would love to see CM Punk go full heel, I think that we were robbed of that in AEW, I really want to see that happen in the WWE, but, you know, otherwise, as far as letting the bank goes for the men, I think that Logan Paul is going to screw LA Night at some point during the match, I don't see Andrade Carmelo or Chad Gable holding this thing, and I can see the why it's six getting involved with Chad, Jey Uso is the one that's like the most obvious outside of Drew, I think, if they want to have him actually fold the briefcase, but that's the advantage of having the two briefcases with the men and the women also is, if Drew catches in same night, you still have Tiffy or whoever carries the women's, I think the two top runners are the other one you mentioned too, I think it's either going to be Tiffy and Strath, I remember confidence it's going to be Tiffany, but if it isn't, I think Chelsea Green is probably the right choice, but either way, I think one of those women will hold that for a while, so you're still going to get money in the bank storylines and teases of cash and stuff throughout the year, as long as at least one of them holds that briefcase for a little while, so You know, yeah, and before we move on to like Heatwave, something just kind of came to me about, and it's what Maggie said in the chat, does Haman go back to punk? I don't know yet because of the injury or the table spots, but it just came to me now, like, and I doubt, I would say this is probably less than five percent of happening, but I was going to say, like, I don't think he should be back, but man, it would be something if this was when Brock Lesnar came back just to try to feud with the bloodline because of what they did to Paul Haman. I don't see it happening because I think they're trying to stay away from all of this right now, you know, obviously, but I was thinking storyline wise, that might be the spot, but again, I don't know if you want to take the focus off of. Yeah, I don't like that idea at all. So I'm glad it's less than five percent. Well, I, I, I've seen that floated out a little bit. I actually brought that up myself with talking to one of my buddies the other day. I said I wouldn't be surprised. Like, if they're going to bring Brock back anytime soon, this would be a reason to bring him back. I do, I do see that. I understand the outside, the off the show stuff and how people feel about Brock and all that. I don't know, I don't think any of us know enough about like that specific situation when it comes specifically to him. When, when, when debitivey has been asked about him, they've essentially said the reason he's on TV is contract reasons, but like that also could obviously be, you know, the PR answer. I get that too. Um, but it's one of those things where like, I don't know what Brock's future looks like. I understand reasons why people wouldn't want to see Brock around, but I also want to be fair about it because I, I don't know the ins and outs of everything involved at that either. And I would imagine that the people involved are doing way heavier research and the ones making a decision of whether or not he's going to be in the company going forward. Like, you know, I don't have the resources or the knowledge that they do obviously. So, um, that said, I could see this being a reason for Brock to come back. I could see Heyman siding with CM Punk, um, depending on it all depends on the timeline for Roman also because, you know, I mean, they could, they could have like a two man or a three man power trip type thing where like you have Roman, Brock and punk as like an alliance, which would be, I did see that. And I, when I heard that, I was just like, holy hell, you know, like, like this would just be like, that would be something like, I mean, I, I honestly don't like it's so fascinating, like, if that was to happen, but I also don't want it to happen because it'd just be like, I think it'd be too much in a way because I think you know, eventually, you know, something's going to crack, you know, like, yeah, it won't last long. So while that would be like a hell of infection, you know, I just, I don't know if I'd want it. Yeah, well, it's similar in ways to like the two man power trip with Austin and Triple H, but we never got to see that play out because of the injuries, you know, so I've always thought it'd be kind of cool to do a Roman and Brock team with Paul Heyman being their manager. And then you can throw a punk in there too, because it makes sense. But, but yeah, that's we got our got our wheel spinning a little bit thinking about that. That said, we will we'll do a little bit of a NXT heat wave predictions right now to just for sure, y'all know who have tripled into the show. We are giving away Russell rumble entries. Please go over at rumble.com. You can sign up for their contests. You can do them money to make picking contests to win up to $500 cash or $1 entries to win both world championship, role title, she's world tag team title rep with the belts over there at Russell rumble.com. 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Jane Nix, I'll go with Petrovic just because I'm going to go opposite side on that one. By the way, Sean Gardner, you said you missed the Rollins match. So just to recap that real quick, I think that Drew is going to win Money in the Bank, and I think Drew is going to be involved in the World Title match. So as far as an official prediction, I think it honestly doesn't matter to me if Rollins or Damian wins because I think Gunther's winning at SummerSlam anyways. I will officially say Damian Priest recanes. I'll say that that's my official prediction. Like Damian Priest will retain, but it's because it's going to be his CM Punk Screws McIntyre at the caption. You know, this would be interesting here, going back to that real quick. So like you said, if they do make it a three-way match, McIntyre's out there, McIntyre's like clean house and he's about to get the win. And once he goes for the pin, that's when CM Punk stops it and Seth Rollins gets the title back because I could see him because Seth Rollins can take that loss to Gunther and he'll be fine. Damian Priest, he's going into a feud with Finn Balor. I could see Finn Balor costing him too. That's the thing. They have the Judgment Day caveat also, but it's like so it's a caveat on both sides. Either Priest is going to lose and be out of the Judgment Day, or Rollins is going to lose and can't get a shot against Priest while he's got a championship. That's true. I could see Finn getting involved though too. That's the thing is like, and that's why it's hard to make prediction for this because my main prediction is Drew McIntyre making it a triple threat match and CM Punk screwing him. AJ Lee maybe gets involved too. I've seen a lot of people say that because of the bracelet and all that. Oh my god. Maggie, you've rehearsed it. But I hate to say that. I know it's a cop out to be like, well, it doesn't really matter who wins. Like, I don't want to make a strong prediction on this, but I guess why I'm just going to go Damian Priest because like, I think that he will be enough of a babyface by SummerSlam that it makes. I mean, obviously Seth Rollins on paper makes the most sense, but does it make the most sense to have Rollins win right now and then Priest gets his out of the judgment? I don't know. Then once again, this all gets so convoluted because Gunther's guaranteed the shot at SummerSlam, and I'm so dead set on Gunther winning that. That like, that's just so in the back of my mind that like, ultimately, I don't think it matters who wins at at money the bank for the championship because they're going to lose it to Gunther, but I think the main thing is going to be Drew's trying to cash in and punk screws him. So yeah. Well, and the reason why is I say it happens that way because that gives you your Gunther or excuse me, that gives you your Damian Priest and Finn Ballard match at SummerSlam and potentially, potentially Damian and Ria versus both of them, potentially. True. Yeah, that's very fair. The move might be to have Seth win, but then that's another short title run losing a Gunther, but him and Gunther would be a banger of a match anyway, and that's a clear baby face. It's good. It's a good problem. That is a good problem. All right. Moving on to heat wave. We'll finish up with some quick predictions here. We have the tag team, 1000 line, Nathan Frasier and Axiom versus Chase U, the team of Andre Chase and Duke Hudson. I'm going to say Frasier and Axiom retain here. What about you? I actually think they lose because Axiom, they're headed towards a breakup, I think, I think. Oh, that's right. I saw something about that. I'm sorry. Right. Right. I think that's where we're headed with them. I think Axiom is getting frustrated with Ben Carter, but I could also see Ben Carter just have enough of Axiom because he's tired of trying to want to move on and do things. And I could completely see that because I think Ben Carter would be a better heel than Axiom. Yeah, you're right. They have, they have teased that. I've even seen that on social media a little bit. That slipped my mind. I think you're right. Chase, you get still in here. And I like that you're calling him Ben Carter, by the way, because that was his indie name. Oh, I got to see him live a few times in his very short indie career. People forget that he had some AEW matches, one or two AEW matches, and they were trying to sign him and then he wound up signing to NXT UK. Obviously, he was trained by Seth Rollins and super talented guys. So I like that throwback though, calling him Ben Carter, like that. Yeah, I prefer to call him that. We got the NXT Women's North American Championship match, Kalani Jordan vs. Saul Ruka. I mean, Kalani just won this thing, right? They just created this title. She just won the ladder match. I think his soul is awesome. I think she has a super bright future in the company. She's over. She looks great. She's athletic. But I think Kalani Jordan, I can say the same thing about Kalani, by the way, she's had a super bright future. Looks great, super awesome. I mean, both women have very, very bright futures in the company. I feel like you just created this title. You're not going to take it off Kalani this fast. Yep. Exactly. Because in my opinion, they would have just had, if they wanted Saul to have it, they'd just have her win it. Exactly. So I think you're right on on that one. I think Saul will get the loss here and they'll move on to something else. But I think Saul is amazing. And I love watching what she can do with her because she's just really damn good. Yes. That's all Snatchers, a sweet move too. Dante Leones, we've been doing that on the indies for a long time. And I think it's cool that she's incorporated that move and introduced the WWE audience. I like that Maggie pressure too. I hope they break up and Axiom removes his mask and oh my god, it's a kid, which is, it used to be a kid was his name. I used to always joke about that. They're not even joking about it. I don't like the weekend or stuff because when I cover our next UK, I'd always be like a kid super talented. But like the second he gets called up to the main roster or any other show, like they are going to have to change his name. They're not going to be marketing somebody as a kid on the show. Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest. He didn't think of I don't think he ever thought that through like that name. I mean, it's a good like technically, it's a good wrestling name. It's just like story wise. It's when I hear of a kid or a kid in in WWE, I just think about Nicholas. Oh, it's him all grown up now. That's what it is. Yes. By the way, shout out to Nicholas who has he has a build a figure. I don't know if you've seen that, but like for people who don't collect the action figures, they do these lines and some of the lines for the Mattel that would be figs. They'll do like a four wrestler set for like the series. But if you buy all four wrestlers, there's like pieces of another wrestler in each box and you can put those pieces together to make your own fifth action figure. And Nicholas is one of those for a recent line, which is kind of cool. Moving on, we had the last chance match for the NXT North American Championship, Oba Femi defending against Wesley. If Femi wins, Lee can never challenge for the title as long as Femi is the champion, so similar to the Seth Rollins and Damian Priest match in stipulations a little bit there. Do you think Femi retains or does Wesley get the WU? Can you get this title back? Yeah, Oba's keeping that title. I truly believe that's going to be the case here. I don't think you can take that title off of him unless you plan on putting him in the title picture to have him win it from Perik soon. I just don't see it happening. I think you have to keep the title on Oba. The only way I can see it is if somebody helps Wes, and I'd be okay with that. And you know what I'm talking about is somebody helps him. But that would be interesting, but I just don't see that going. I think the better story is how he can't channel him for that title. Yeah, yeah, and I'm with you. Oba Femi is a beast. That dude is, I mean, they got a star. Yeah, the closest thing I could even think of that kind of reminds me of him, but he's such a better version than anyone who made this comparison. But on the Johnson in the 90s, I was convinced that on the Johnson was going to be the WWE F-Champion. Oh, I was good. Yeah, right. He was so popular. He was popular. He was huge. He was jacked. He was his football player. He was different. I think he was the first African American I.C. champion also. Like they really, like they made it look like he was going to be the one to like really push the barriers, push the boundaries. And like he was going to be the next big kind of homegrown star of the WWE F in the 90s. And that just fizzled and he wound up as big T and Harlem Heat 2000 WCW. And it was so bad. But I see Oba and I'm like, dude, this is like another shot at like just he has like those Ahmed Vyze, but he's like way better in the ring already than Ahmed ever was. You know, so like I feel like there's just such potential for Oba to be like a top guy for a really long time. He has such potential. And I was also saying that on, he had such a fast run on level up when I was when I was covering him for level up. I was like, okay, this dude is not going to be able to show much longer. Like, are you like, look at this, dude, this dude can even wrestle. Okay, he's going to be a master star on this company. So, and the people you're referring to, I think at some point we do get the rascals reunion. I think that's what you're what you're learning to. I think that's more as more based on who was it? Is it which group is it? Is it the D'Angelo family? There was a group that was fighting them at the last. Oh my gosh, I'm blanking. Who was it? They were there was a group that that prevented Wesley. Oh, it's Gallis. That's who it was. I was blanking on Gallis. I think that they're going to eventually bring in the rascals to fight Gallis in like a six man. So no quarter cash. There's another good option. By the way, Potter Finisher Regal's team, which is basically like a black cool combat club like extension. But yeah, I'm going to take Obafemi in this one also, but this will be a banger of a match. I love Wesley. I've always loved his work. So I think it's going to be a banger. Yeah. After that, we got Roxanne Perez defending the NXT Women's Championship against Lola Weiss. I'll take Roxy to retain. I mean, I could go either way though. You can tell that they got a lot of big plans for Lola. And I like Lola back when she was fighting for Balotor, Valatina Lareda, I believe is a real man. Yeah. But she, you can tell there's a bright future for both of them. The thing with Roxanne is like, it's a win win for Roxanne right now when it comes to any of these matches because either she's going to win and retain the title or she's going to lose and be on the main roster. You know what I mean? So like, who do you have? Who do you have winning this one? I have Roxanne winning. I don't think as much as I think she would be okay to win. I just don't see them go that route yet. I think Roxy will win. And you know, it's hard to say. Like, I don't know how the risk is, but I think it'd be a great time to see Julia if she's available. Yeah, that's definitely happening soon. And I mean, Julia versus Roxy is a, that's a bang or a match right there. Love that. Let's Sean Michael's cook. But yeah, that's good stuff. I'll take Roxy to retain also. And then we have the main event of the show, a four-way match. It's a fatal four-way. So I'm assuming first pin or submission in that case. It doesn't say the theme of elimination. This is for the NXT Championship. We've got Trik Williams defending us, Javon Evans, Ethan Page and Sean Spears. Now Trik Williams, very, very over. He's another guy that back when he was only wrestling on level up and he was basically the sidekick for Carmelo Hayes. I was saying even back then, you guys can go listen to old podcast if you don't believe me. I would never put down Carmelo Hayes because I was familiar with his work as Christian Casanova on the NDs. I knew he was very talented. He was special. He was going to be good in the WWE system. But I felt like people were sleeping on Trik because I was watching him and level up, which most people aren't paying attention to. And I was seeing him and I was like, dude, this guy's got some size. He's got some athleticism. He's really charismatic. He might be the one to watch in this group. Carmelo is going to be fine, but more people would probably need to be keeping a lookout for Trik Williams. And I'm glad that I noticed that early on because the rest of the fan base obviously sees that because whoop that Trik is as over as anything on the show. Javon Evans, I was very fortunate. I was able to see quite a few of his matches live pre WWE as J Malachi. I believe was his nickname. And I'm getting all screwed up because everyone changes their name so often now. But I got to see him live at like battle slam and he's super innovative, super talented and rose the ranks of NXT super fast to be an imagine like this so fast. Ethan Page, of course, everyone knows his history, former AW talent, former impact talent, the man over in like alpha one, that kind of stuff. Ethan Page had a shot recently at the title and successful, but he's trying to get his revenge. And also Sean Spears, who's been in and out of the company interesting, he's known as Sean Spears and not as a tie-dellinger. But yeah, I like it, but it is interesting who keeps her name and who doesn't in these situations. We have four big NXT names going against each other for this championship. Rob, do you think Trik Williams retains in the state all four way or do we have a new champion? I think as much as I would like it to be Ethan Page doing this title, I think they're going to keep this title on trick for a little bit longer. Because I think that's just the best route for now, I think. I don't know who he would face at the next takeover or if they would, I don't know who his next feud would be. They could always continue the Ethan Page and and Swerve storyline going, I guess, but I, I think Swerve, I think, sorry, not Swerve at Trik. I think they could go. I think Trik just needs to hold that title a little bit longer. As far as him, like his in ring, he's, to me, he's, and I know you can't be perfect every time I get that, but I've seen a couple of matches lately where there's been a couple things where I'm like, and he may need to stay around for a little bit longer. So, but I think Swerve keeps the title because I think he's still doing. Swerve Trik. God, I keep doing now. Yeah, you're doing that. Or now I'm doing that. See, you know, it's just, it's my first day. That's my line. It's okay. They're both good big man. Swerve and Trik, I can understand. And I do Swerve when I drive, so it makes sense there. But anyways, Trik, Jesus, Trik needs to keep this title a little bit longer. He just, he just needs it. So I'll stop talking about him so I can stop saying. No, I think the Trik Williams is probably the move to retain. I'd love to see Jevon Evan just kind of like underdog wild card, like just become the, but I feel like he's too new to the, to the show. And if you're going to have him have that moment, it'll be in like a singles match later on. I feel like if they're going to have Ethan Page win, they would have already done it. And I just don't see Sean Spears being that guy. I'm nothing against Sean. I just, I just feel like if given the, these four options, you might as well keep running with Trik. And also I'm with you, by the way, there have been some kind of shaky moments in some of his matches, where I've been like, oh, that wasn't exactly how I think that was supposed to go. But that's the whole point of NXT, right? Is like, you know, that's where you can make little mistakes. But he's also so over that like the fans can just overlook it unless it's like a catastrophic watch. They're just there to have a good time. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And I'm just, I understand I caught it, caught it a couple of times. And, and like as far as like what I said, like about Trik, you know, a couple of weeks ago, I was congratulating Kip Savien for his free agency with the Motor City Machine Gun. So I tell you how I do, you know, there you go. And it's saving Chrissy. So it's Christ, like Kip Savien, you know, just, we have fun on these shows, right? So, yes, yes. But that was, yeah, we're gonna have some more fun. We're gonna talk some AEW. We'll probably go till about 10 30, Rob, that's okay with you about another 20 minutes. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. Cool. Sensors. No interview this week. We'll, we'll keep the topics going for you guys live. Let's move on to AEW. Over a million fans and a great number in the demo tuned in. It was a great show. And I think it's been a run of great shows. AEW last night. Why are you laughing at the phone? I always pop at that. Just the other one is even better. This one right here. I'm old and I'm fucking tired and I work with fucking children. I'm tired of wrestling these kids that think they they know everything. So AEW last night, I thought it was a great episode of Dynamite from top to bottom. So a lot of praise online as well. I think everyone really enjoyed the show or at least that's how I felt about it. I'm sure there's a lot of, I'm sure there's haters out there. People that don't like AEW no matter what they do. But I think that this was a damn good show. We had some some returns, some heel turns, some good promos. One thing I want to mention real quick before the actual topics that we're going to go over, I really want to give this a shout out to Britt Baker. You know, obviously, it doesn't need a shout out for me. What's that really mean at the end of the day? But I just wanted to put it out there to anyone who might have missed her speech last night. You know, it sounded like she went through some real hell over like the last year basically. And there was a lot of speculation on like, where is she? Is she injured? What's wrong? Why does it take me so long? Is she having to just be with the company? Is something up with her and Tony? Like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm glad that all I was kind of just put to rest last night. And it's like, no, she was dealing with like some serious medical stuff and like she needed to take time off. And that's that's ultimately way more important than my satisfaction or entertainment as a wrestling fan. Like, I don't think it's smart to rush things if you're having, you know, anything neurologically or whatever, like anything that you feel like you need to take a step away and like address it so that you can get right and that you can be good going forward. That's what needs to happen. So like, I'm glad that Britt's back and she's healthy. That's awesome. And I thought that her face to face with Mercedes Monet was the best thing Mercedes has done since joining AEW. I'm more excited for her right now than I have been her entire run up to this point. Nothing against Mercedes. And I love Willow. I love Willow. So like, it's nothing like, like, I don't like Mercedes or that which is, but I think last night was like her real arrival because people really want to see her versus Britt. And I think that the two of them have really good chemistry with one another already. It is going to be clear that Mercedes can lean into being a heel in this story. Britt's going to be over as a baby face, but obviously Mercedes is still going to always have her fans. So like, I liked everything about this. So once again, welcome back to AEW to Britt Baker. And I thoroughly enjoyed that back and forth within her Mercedes last night. Yeah, Mercedes needed her because I, in my opinion, because it was just kind of one of those things where it's like, man, just something's just not adding up with Mercedes. And last night, we saw where this is headed. And I mean, I think it's obviously headed towards all in, you know, but they worked well. Plus we got, I don't know how many times they caught each other bitch, you know, so whatever that happens, like, you know, you're getting a good feud. So it's getting real. It was like, okay, let's go. You know, I did not, the only thing I did not like was, and this happened at every show. I mean, we've seen it with John Moxley when he talked a couple of years ago about his problems that he was having. And we heard a couple of people last night, like in the crowd, and that kind of irritated me. But I mean, that's neither here or there. But other than that, I thought it was good. And she just kept going through it. And you know, I've been in like, not necessarily the same thing that she went through, but I've had problems like that, like mentally. And so I'm, I think it's great. She was able to talk about it too. So I really do commend her for doing that because it's, it's really tough to talk about that kind of stuff. And you know, the thing is, like, so that's, that's very important what she did in getting, getting herself taken care of. But in a way, she might have helped somebody else out too last night. Yeah. So that's, that's what I'm hopeful for. Yes, 100%. I couldn't agree more. So good to see her back. Looking forward to her and Mercedes going forward. As far as some of the topics we have for today, for AW, along with that, we got a big return last night during the Owen Hart Foundation tournament. We had Jeff Jarrett's match, which, yeah, which was a quarter final match, which is interesting because on the others out of the bracket, we already know that Danielson has made it all the way to the finals, right? Already. Yeah. Yep. So we already knew that. And like the first round to the other side is going on at the lower end of the bracket for Jeff Jarrett. And, you know, man, I'm torn because they did such a good job of like making people care about Jeff Jarrett being in that tournament because of the history between himself and Owen. And, but it was so obvious this was going to be Hangman. And it was the right move. Hangman, he is back. Sorry. Go ahead, Rob. Well, no, I would just say it like, you know, I DM'd you yesterday when we're talking about the show today. And I said that I go, man, it just seems too obvious, you know, like, and that was the thing. Like, it just seemed too obvious. So. Yeah, I could understand that being a criticism or a critique, I guess. But at the end of the day, I'm also a big believer of just because something is obvious doesn't mean it's bad. Like if it's, you know, it's just the right move, because let's let's say it was anyone else, then on the flip side, you're gonna have all these people like, how wasn't an hangman? It was teased it was hangman. It was supposed to be hangman. Why wasn't it hangman? I mean, you're never going to satisfy the whole fan base, obviously. But like, it just made the most sense in the world, especially because Swerve's still the champion. And like, that's going to be your match at Wembley Swerve versus hangman. And honestly, I'd have hangman win. I'd have hangman win the championship and have the elite all standing there at the end of the show and Wembley all the titles. I think he'll definitely well join the elite again, I think. He kind of teased that he won it last night, but I think he ultimately well. So you don't think Danielson will win, though? No, I think that hangman's going to win the whole thing. Now, okay. Now, I think that Danielson is outside of hangman, I think he's the most obvious choice to win it. And I would love to see Danielson versus Swerve. Once again, it's another great problem to have. But I just feel like the second that the wild card got announced, I said, I think it's going to be hangman. And I think he's going to hit because the other thing was was Osprey would be Osprey at all end. But he made it clear and insightful, slight also reported that Osprey wanted to get the Swerve match out of the way at Forbidden Door so that there wasn't even like the discourse of that hanging on in the background over people's minds of like, why isn't Osprey winning the championship at Wembley like they wanted to take the spotlight. He wanted to make sure the spotlight was on Swerve, which is a very respectable thing for Osprey to do in my opinion, if that is in case, is in fact how things played out. But that said, hangman does return last night. He does Russell Jeff Jarrett. He does the feet Jeff Jarrett. I thought the match was pretty damn good. I thought the entrance for hangman was great. I mean, I got no complaints about any of this. Once again, it was obvious that hangman was going to be that guy. It was obvious that hangman was going to win. The only critique I could really have of this is I understand the portion of the fan base. And I'm part of that to an extent to that really felt like, damn, with that story, maybe you should have Jeff Jarrett at least win a couple of matches in this thing, make it feel like he was going to actually win this tournament, maybe actually even have him win. The thing is, once you have the stipulation of the winner of this tournament gets a shot at Wembley, you're immediately like, well, Jeff Jarrett is not mean of any Wembley for eight of eight of these reviews. It's just not happening. But if this was not a part of that, he didn't know, like, I would actually believe that Jeff Jarrett might actually run this, you know? So what's that you've seen, excuse me for? Well, about Jeff Jarrett, because she's she can't stand him. But last night, and that's why she said don't do her, Rob, because she knows if I say J double F J double R E double T drives her nuts. So I didn't say it. I was just telling you that way she doesn't get mad at me. Good. Thanks for not saying it. Yeah, no problem. I'm a team player. But anyways, the crowd afterwards, Janet, thank you, or thank you, Jeff. In my opinion, that's the best match he's had in the UW. And you yeah, you could see he put a lot of heart into it. And so he put a lot of heart into it. And you know, that was the thing. I completely, I would have been perfectly okay if he would have won, like last night, I would have been like, did not expect that to happen. But it was one of those things like emotionally, because I've actually had the opportunity to see Jeff Jarrett and no one heart team before. So, and I've like, there's a couple of things that I remember about that match. I remember seeing Jeff Jarrett laughing in the match because of Owen. And he was on this, like he was waiting to be tagged, but you could tell he was laughing. And it was just, it's stuff like that. Like, I know they were friends. So it's just one of those things where you could tell the emotion. Now, granted Jeff, Jeff Jarrett's doing his job, you know, he, but the emotion was there. You could tell. No, is he an actor? Absolutely. But I liked that the emotion was shown. And he really wanted to win. And I know the crowd wanted like the crowd was happy with the match. I thought it was a gray match. And they did good from the standpoint of making Hey, ma'am just look like it more of an absolute prick for what he did. So I liked the direction they went with this. Yeah. And that's a big part of it, right? It's like, if this was anybody else, I'd actually be probably pretty but heard over Jeff Jarrett losing because I'd be like, well, you can go forward to beat like anyone else really, like for the most part, not anyone else, but you guys know what I mean. But like, when Hey, man being the opponent, it's like, Well, Hey, man's got to win. And then on top of that, it makes Hey, man even more dastardly villain because like he's beating Jeff Jarrett in this tournament that everybody is so behind because of the circumstances. So it worked on a lot of levels, in my opinion. So I think it was the right move. Yeah. And I know there were a lot of people like, why Jeff Jarrett in it? Well, I mean, they told you why he was in it because of Owen. And I thought that discourse was ridiculous. Um, because if there's anybody that deserved to be in it, in my opinion, it was him. Yeah. So he's the only person you could possibly get that not only would have, well, I guess maybe, you know, like dusted roads, you know, worked with Owen and stuff like that. But like he wasn't, he wasn't his tag team partner. Like these guys were actual negative F tag team partners, Jeff Jarrett and Owen Hart, like, yeah. So, um, but anyway, that all said, hangman is back in AEW. He advances in the tournament. He is my pick to win the whole thing. And we did get a little bit of a backstage segment where the young bucks were trying to recruit hangman to join at their side for blood and guts. And he refused. I don't know if that will stick because they still need a fifth man, the elite for this match. Um, I still feel like it's going to be hanging in, but maybe not. Yeah, I think what they're going to do is they're going to say, Hey, this is your chance to get back at Swerve, you know, I think that's how they're going to do it. Like, hey, you don't have to like us, but this is your chance to get back at Swerve. And like, I think that's how they're going to give them in. I completely agree, completely agree. Um, another big thing that happened last night on AEW dynamite. And by the way, there's a lot re-tolerant AEW because obviously Forbidden Door was over the weekend, but I feel like enough, enough time has passed, enough stuff has happened. There's no point in doing like a full on Forbidden Door review for you guys. You guys have heard plenty of people review the show. So we're picking praise for you right up from last night, but there's obviously a fallout from Forbidden Door involved, um, including what we saw at the end of last night's show. So we had Will Osprey, defending the international championship against Daniel Garcia. MJF came out, was in the corner of Garcia during this match. Osprey, of course, lost the main event of Forbidden Door for the AEW World Championship against Swerve. Um, but, you know, bouncing back right away. It is, he's a monster too, Will Osprey, like having matches that physical and then wrestling a few days later in another physical match, like so much respect for Osprey and what he's doing right now in the ring. So you have Osprey defending against Garcia as ultimately winds up happening at the end of the match is Garcia is in a position where he kind of has Osprey right where he wants him. Surprisingly, like Garcia's got a shot at winning this match and like Osprey's beat up on the weekend and, you know, this could be it. And MJF on the outside hands Garcia is dynamite diamond ring, which is very similar to what we saw at Forbidden Door where Don Callis tried to give the screw, a screwdriver to Will Osprey and Osprey refused it. You know, same thing, basically happens here where Garcia refuses the, refuses the diamond ring from MJF and that costs him because the second he turns around, he gets hit with a hidden blade 123. After the match, MJF is picking Garcia up off the mat and saying, Hey, this one's on me. This was, this was my mistake. You're still great. The fans still love you. People are cheering for Daniel Garcia. And then MJF kicks him in the dick, kicked him right in the dick. Yeah, kicks him right in the dick. And he sees the beat him up and bloody him up. And he hits him with a diamond ring and he's bleeding all over the place. And MJF's holding Garcia's head up. And it's just, she's like, God, it's like hands around his neck and it's like, you know, choking him and it just stems. It looks brutal and violent. And, and it's a very scumbag move. And this is exactly what MJF needed. He needed this so bad, in my opinion. I've been talking since before he returned, even before he left, I was saying, I get it. This whole friendship thing with Adam Cole, the babyface turn, the kangaroo kick, all this stuff. I never liked that. I understood why the fans were cheering for it. I understood there was a big portion of the fan base that did like it. It was not for me because I think that MJF is so unique as he is, he is so good at being a heel. And he's so good at being that guy outside of the ring too. Like some people hate this, but I love that like autograph signings and stuff. Like he's a prick to people. He refuses to sign stuff. I remember our buddy, Doug, who I used to do my interviews to do shows with, had a dog RV to hear for life back in the day, OG Pioneer, YouTube. Doug years back, went to an MJF signing and gave him an eight by 10 or whatever to sign. And MJF refused to sign it. So Wardlow signed MJF signature on it and handed it to Doug. And I was like, that is the most heel that you're paying for MJF signature. And then Wardlow signs it for him. That's such a great heel move though. I remember that. I didn't know Doug then, but I remember that story and that was amazing. I know people get up in arms about that kind of stuff because you're paying for it and things. And the way he's done the things he said, non-ograph sessions to kids and stuff like that. He crosses the line for sure. Yeah. And last night was very interesting at the end of the show because they showed him pushing. He owns out of their hands and stuff. Yeah. And they showed him pushing one guy in the face. I don't, look, I get how the 80s were like with wrestling, and I'm not trying to be like, I'm not trying to say like things have changed. We know that. And I thought based on past history of what he's done, I didn't think they would want to go that route, you know, or wouldn't. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I know what you mean. I like, so I, I appreciate the heel tactics. I love how MJF's able to rile people up. I'd be pissed off, though, if I was one of those fans that like, he literally walked by and knocked my iPhone out of my hand, like it shatters on my ground or something like that. I would expect him or the company to pay for that. Like, you know, when, when you go to a show, you're not paying to be like violated in any way, shape, or form. Like, you're not touching my personal belonging. You're not pushing me. Like, this is, this is the show is the predetermined. I'm just going to use the word because people hate, this is fake. At the end of the day, like, at the end of the day, like when you real, like, the bumps are real. It's pretty, I'm not talking crap about the art of professional wrestling, but it is fake from the sense of like, MJF should not be actually shoving fans because like, listen, I, as a fan watching that, it's very entertaining to me. But at some point, at one of these autograph sessions or in, or in the building, imagine you mess with the wrong guy. You know what I mean? Like, like some unassuming, because the most dangerous people out there are the ones you don't think are dangerous, right? Like, like the dude, the dude who is like the third degree person who gets to grandmaster black belt or whatever is not going around telling people that he is that guy. Like, he is the quiet guy in the corner who does not want any confrontation, but when confrontation comes his way, he handles it. You know what I mean? And I just, I fear that for MJF occasionally, where like, sometimes they'll say something to like a kid in an autograph session or something. And I'm like, you don't know who that kid's dad is. Like, that kid's dad might bite at you the second this thing's over. Like, you know, but that's what he's going for. He wants to be that Roddy Piper 80s heel. Yeah. And I do appreciate that. Oh, I do too. I just, like I said, like, I, I, it's one of those things where it's just like, okay, you know, just I like, I can see both both ways. I see like, from a wrestling standpoint, I like it from the 80s, like aspect, because I remember watching like the crowds just they wanted to they wanted to stab Ric Flair at times, you know, like, you know, I, things like that. They wanted to get at them. And I know that's what MJF is trying to do. But the other thing too is granted it was the 80s. So Ric Flair couldn't grab people's phones and throw them, but I just, I don't know. And then you had the, the one guy at the end where if they were like, writing each other's faces and then you had, I usually know the Sam, the security guard, you see him push the other guy back. He's doing his job. But you know, they can't stand it when they go into the crowd. Like security guards are always like, I guess I'm a bitch. Here we go, you know, well, his job really should have been to push MJF away. Because like MJF is going into the crowd and going head to head with the dude. Oh, I know. It's like the guy jumped the bar rail. Yeah, I completely agree with the other like, I'm not putting any blame on Sam. I'm just saying it's like, I completely like, it's like, well, here we go. You know, I understand exactly where they're coming from. And like when the thing got close enough to MJF, he pushed him and he did like his part there. But you're right. He should have tried. Well, I mean, that's neither here or there now. But it's just one of those things where it was just, it was good TV. I'll say that. It's good. It's good. I mean, at the end of the day, it's good. And I guess he needed that bad. Because when MJF left, I thought it was, I thought the kangaroo kick out of whole stuff was and it was goofy. I did not like them being our always high team champions together. I hate the way that this whole devil thing is played out in the undisputed kingdom. I think it just, I was saying before he returned, I was like, I'm, I'm fearing for MJF because he's coming back to a lame duck storyline with this undisputed kingdom thing. Adam Cole still wasn't ready to wrestle. You can't even really pay that off. And I think that the babyface thing ran as course anyways, and he needed to turn heel. So they, they have had MJF and Osprey go face-to-face recently heading in a forbidden door. Like that massive pop from the crowd. That's a match we all want to see. That's a match. I'm assuming we're going to get it all in. It's going to be Osprey versus MJF for the international title. I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be awesome. Really think it's going to be sweet. And I think that MJF needed this. Like he needed, he needed to turn heel. He needed to be vicious. He needed to remind us why he really is a scumbag. It does in a way kind of like offset the entire Adam Cole thing and the entire undisputed kingdom thing because like there's no point even going back to that unless Adam Cole comes back as a babyface and it's like, look, I was the good guy the whole time. I told you guys like this guy was a scumbag. I guess they could go that way. They could go that way. So I could see that maybe. But like at the end of the day, we're also just kind of past that. And once again, Adam Cole isn't wrestling. So like, I don't know. Sean Gardner says, does MJF beat Osprey? Dude, that's a good question. That's a damn good question because that's going to be in Wembley. I feel like if you want to get more here on MJF, like you might as well have them do it. But my fear is that my assumption is that they're going to try to slow play this similar to Cody from WrestleMania 39 to WrestleMania 40. They're going to have a little Osprey penciled in to be in the world title match next year at all end at Wembley is my guess. Now, a lot of things can happen in a year. Contract disputes happen. Injuries happen. People get hot. People could wind up in the company. Maybe somebody gets released from the WWE within the next year and he's super over and they got to go with him next year. Like, who knows? Yes, you never know. I feel like it's a risky play to wait another year when you have, you basically signed MJF, or you didn't just sign Will Osprey for this specifically, but a big reason you signed him is so he could be the headliner of your biggest show every year in front of his home people. So like, I feel like it's kind of a missed opportunity that he's not in that spot this year. But if it's him versus MJF international title, I'm not going to hate on that. It's going to be a banger match and the crowd's going to go insane. I, oh man, you know, it's tough to beat him at home. They're like that, especially if Hey man's going to beat Swerve, assuming Hey man beats Swerve. Because other thing is like, if Danielson wins this whole thing and Danielson beat Swerve, I could see it more likely. My point, I guess really is Rob that I don't see them having MJF beat Osprey and also Swerve beats, sorry, and also Hey man beats Swerve. I don't think that they're going to have like an entire show of like the heels beating the baby faces and have this crowd just like kind of like angry or bummed out throughout the show. Like, so I, well, I think that MJF beating Osprey is actually a really good idea. I feel like you've got to have Osprey winning in Wembley and continue to build for him winning the title next year in front of that same crowd. But the other thing you haven't even thought about that. The other thing you need to think of in this situation is with Osprey winning that gets you have to think of it from this from a business standpoint to Osprey winning that gets the fans happier. So they're more likely to buy tickets next time for right for Wembley. So I think that would probably be the best way to go. That's that's just how I would look at it from a business standpoint, because you want to make the fans happier. So that's just how I would do it. But before this before MJF and Osprey, like I thought they were headed towards, honestly, I thought they were headed towards Osprey versus Ricochet because where I thought they were going. Yeah. I mean, that's another good point is like when's Ricochet coming in and how fast do they pull the trigger on Osprey versus Ricochet because, you know, people are those matches that those guys have had years ago are they're not everyone's cup of tea because they are very quote unquote choreographed in a lot of ways. I get that that's not but like regardless of what kind of wrestling fan you are, I feel like you have to, at the very least, you have to appreciate the athleticism and like you're watching a real life, you know, matrix fight scene happen live with one take in front of a live audience. And these guys, I mean, that's the kind of thing you're looking at, you know, so like, and by the way, I'm a huge fan of it. I love the Osprey and Ricochet matches. Like I'm not a hater of that at all, but I know that some people aren't into it. But I think there's gonna be a lot of people who are pretty mind blown when they get to do their thing in AEW. That's a good point though. I don't know when that Ricochet is coming in, but they're gonna definitely do Ricochet versus Osprey on a big show. But yeah, once again, MJF turning heel, I think you really, really needed that. And I'm glad that we're out with that. He is way better. He is infinitely better, in my opinion, as a heel than he is a baby. Oh, yeah, definitely. It's not even close. Do you think, like based on Fightful Select report yesterday about Daniel Garcia, do you think yesterday was a way for them to write him off until they could do contract negotiations? Or maybe he... I don't think this is a case yet. If anything, I think it's just maybe a thing for temporarily. Maybe he's taking time off. I don't know. But do you think it's a way to write him off or because of the contract stuff? Because that seems just really quick. But I also... I don't know. The tying's just weird. Yeah, that's a good point. It's even weirder because MJF literally challenged Garcia to all in last week, leading it to believe there's some sort of plan for Garcia going forward. But it's also a good caveat. It's a good way of... It's like a red herring where it's getting more interested in more... How do you say it? It keeps Daniel Garcia in your mind as a guy who got screwed over. He was going to have this big match with MJF. Then MJF took it all the way from him with what he did. But also if in real life he is negotiating his contract and they have to take him off TV to figure that out, I could see that being a way of writing him off as well. I could definitely see that. But I think that I'm torn on Garcia because I feel like he very clearly would be a very big part of AEW's future. They have a lot invested in him. He's great in ring. He's another guy who like rose the NDC very quickly because of his talent. But I could also see him thriving in the WWE. He's a guy who I think would fit in anywhere. But I feel like he has a lot of unfinished business in AEW. And I think that in AEW, his road to being that guy is already... He's already on that path. Garcia right now could be perceived as a guy who already could main event big shows be a credible title challenger. Maybe not be the world champion right now in this very moment. But he's a guy who is at least in the mix to some degree in the WWE system. It would be a long climb. He'd probably have to deal with NXT and then deal with having to get over on the main roster and be on there for years before they really, really went with him. And then Eddie James says you have someone like Ricky Starks who in my opinion, I think should go to the WWE just my own personal opinion. Because for whatever reason, he's been stopped, started so much in AEW that I feel like him and the fan base and Tony. I just feel like everyone's just not on the same page with him. And he's got that link to Cody. And he's always been like, you know, he's a WWE fan growing up. And so I just feel like Ricky, this is like kind of a new, fresh coat of paint for Ricky. So I see guys in different scenarios, I feel like Daniel R.C. would be better to serve to stay in AEW and try to kind of finish his story in that company over the next few years and then made me make another decision. But I can see Ricky Starks jumping right now if that makes sense over the WWE. >> Yeah, 100% on board and Maggie won't like this. But I think Wardlow, I think the second he can go, I think he's gone too. He used to say he would never go anywhere. But now I think that's completely changed. That's my opinion. I'm not saying I know a damn thing about it, but I just think you see what happened after the MJF match at Double or Nothing. And I think it was Double or Nothing. But yeah, it's just- >> So when he's super lost in the mix in this whole Undisputed Kingdom thing, and they stop and start him more than like anyone as far as the push is. The other thing you guys have to keep in mind right now is how many of these people are like Cody Rhodes people. You know what I mean? Like they've already got Jade who is a Cody Rhodes. She's like a Cody recruit. Ricky Starks is one of Cody's best friends in real life. You don't think Cody's putting in a good word. Ethan Page is one of Cody's best friends. Like you've seen him. >> Sean Spear. >> Sean Spear. I mean, yeah, exactly. I mean- >> Forget the man. >> Yeah, but it just makes sense, right? Cody is literally the top guy in the entire industry right now. And if his friends are looking for jobs and they're talented, at the very least, David is going to listen to Cody. It doesn't mean every person Cody recommends is going to get hired. But it definitely goes a long way versus not many people are always saying much about you or the biggest wrestler in the entire universe right now going to management being like, hey, I know about this guy. He's going to be available. He's a good dude. We're friends. He's super talented. I think you do good here. They're at least going to take a look. You know what I mean? >> Like Wardwell has that WWE look, obviously. So it's just- >> Yes. >> Yeah, I could definitely see Wardwell in that boat, for sure. >> So yeah, that's probably a good stopping point on AEW unless there's any other AEW topic or anything you want to cover before we talk a little indies before we get out of here. >> No, I think that's it. Somebody asked earlier about when blood and guts was July 24th. So yeah, in Nashville. >> Yes. Yeah, that's close to me. I used to live in Nashville. I love that Burge Stone Arena. Then there are many times. That should be a good venue. I draw a lot of friends are at that show. So if you're there, pay some good pictures and stuff, I'll keep a look out on social media. I try to retweet people that I know are there. >> It's a nice arena. >> Yeah, yeah, Burge Stone is great. I used to go to a lot of friends games years ago, like when they weren't good, because I used to be able to go sit on like the glass for like, you know, 30 bucks or whatever, 50 bucks. Now you can't pay that to even be in the last row, because like the team's actually good enough. But yeah, it's a great stadium or a great arena rather, and it's a great wrestling venue too, for sure. So I'm looking forward to that. All right, let's move on to some indie topics before we wrap on up. >> I'm gonna give a big mother fucking shot out. >> MDK. Now, as we mentioned throughout the show, I'll give you another reminder before we talk in these. We are giving away Russell Rumble entries. We have a couple of people who have put Russell Rumble in the chat that have shot that winning free entries for Russell Rumble's winning the bank pick-up contest. I'll put that on the screen one more time here. The top prize is $500 for a second and third are all going to win $500. You can also do a $1 entry to win tag team uppercut title belts. So jump on to Russel Rumble.com, get involved with the contest. If you want a free entry for the winning the bank pick-up contest, all you gotta do is put the words Russell Rumble in the chat here live this morning, right now during the show. I picked three people that say Russell Rumble and you're gonna get free entries. As far as Andy's go, we're gonna talk some GCW today. We had two GCW events over the weekend. We had GCW no sleep 2020 and GCW crime wave 2024. But I say 2020, GCW no sleep 2020. >> Yeah, I thought you were gonna say 2024. So I was just like, I'll let it go. What do I know? >> Both of these shows happened in 2024. Here were this past weekend. We had GCW no sleep and GCW crime wave. As far as some of the bigger things that happened on those shows, the first one I want to talk about real quick is Zilla Fatu. There's obviously a lot of spotlight right now on the bloodline and Zilla is the member of the family right now that is the most showcase as far as like on the indie level. Everyone else basically is either signed or like going to be showing up in WWE soon. Zilla has been doing great work. He is massively over right now in game changer wrestling. For those of you who may not have seen him before, I always call him New Maga because he is literally the son of U Maga. He does the tape thumb and he hits the, no disrespect to Solo, but he hits the Simone Spike way better than anyone else that I've seen because he'll do like running diving versions of it. He's just way more athletic. And he had a death match this past weekend against John Wayne Murdock who, and this was on the GCW no sleep show. If you want to check that out over on Triller TV+, but Zilla, they called it Houston Street fight. It was essentially a death match. JWM, John Wayne Murdock, one of the best death match wrestlers in the world, one of the most well respected guys in the entire game. And Zilla went out there and had a legit death match. Like he was bleeding all over the place. He was going through glass. They were using a bunch of different weapons. I mean, it was nuts. Towards the end of the match, Zilla laid John Wayne out on a door bridge, basically a door set up by two chairs. And he ran off the ring apron through it. It did a splash that outside, put him back in the ring. And the finish was supposed to be Zilla lighting his thumb on fire and doing a flaming spike, but the wrist tape wouldn't light. So that was a little bit of a bummer because like clearly that was the intended finish of the match, but he still runs, depending on the spike, it's the one, two, three. But I just want to give a shout out to Zilla because he did great in the death match setting. He's massively over in GCW. He's been using him on a consistent basis in GCW. And to get a win like this over a guy like JWM in this kind of setting is a big kind of vote of confidence also in Zilla going forward. So the way that I see it is like Zilla is going to be one of the top guys, if not the top guy of GCW, I can see him being the champion at some point too. It really just depends on how long he's in the company. Also, how long he's on the NDC and also how long it takes before debit to be just goes ahead and signs him because I think it's inevitable that he'll wind up here at some point. So give me some of your thoughts on this too. Like I'm a big fan of what Zilla's doing in GCW. Oh, well, Zilla is great. And you know, that match the light tube spot, man, those always like just get to me because you had the like, yeah, if I too miss with the spear, you know, and then right like right into like the light bulbs, and then you had them just nail Murdoch with the light bulbs and just it's I'm like, this this match is just nuts. And the one thing that too, Zilla doesn't wear shoes, you know, so I'm just like, good God, you know, this, this is just nuts. But yeah, then he went with the spike. I thought it was a fun match. Like even for a death match, I thought it was fun, you know, it was just it was good. And it was a good show, you know. Yeah, I I thought I thought this match was awesome. It's a good a great GCW weekend in general. Um, you remember the movie Heavyweights from back in the 90s, right? Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite movies of all time, but I'm trying glass that always reminds me of Tony Perk has been to that movie where he's like walking around like the last is like trying to show how like strong and like unstoppable he is, and then he won't being his own demise. Um, those of you who do not know Heavyweights watch that movie. It's a movie that could never be made nowadays, but it's all in good fun. It's about a fat camp. It's a great movie. Um, literally one of my favorite movies of all time. It's from the 90s. I remember seeing it in theaters as a matter of fact, that's how old I am. Um, it's old we are, man. It's bad. Yeah. Yeah. I saw them in theater too. And like I just, the movie was great. Like when I was a kid, I loved it and I actually have it on blue right now. So it's still holds up. It's still actually, funnily enough, um, if you go on like YouTube, you can actually find like deleted scenes and stuff from that movie. That movie was meant to be way more adult than what wound up actually. Like they cut out a lot of like really adult stuff out of that, but it would have made for like, it would have made it so much better like as an adult to watch it. Now if they were to let that stuff in, but anyway, that movie out, if you've never seen it, I represent movie all the time. Um, other notable stuff from GCW this past weekend, um, bring up real quick, shout out to Sydney Akim, who is the former scripts and Reggie from the WWE. He's been doing great in GCW so far. Uh, recently wrestled Jack cartwheel on a really good match this past weekend. He wrestled Ninja Mac, um, stylistically, it makes perfect sense. The guys he's wrestling, he's wrestling like the most athletic to do, to do crazy flips and, you know, that's what he's known to do too. Sydney Akim gets to win over Ninja Mac with the backhand spring RKO or cutter or whatever that he does. Um, how do you feel about Sydney Akim's run at post WWE so far? Oh, I think it's been like really good. Like he's, he's made himself look really good and he's, he's, uh, I think the biggest thing he's kind of made WWE in a way look, you know, way silly because we didn't get to see him do that stuff like the stuff that he's doing, but it's also, um, one of those things where they didn't do him any favors with that damn mask and, you know, just like little things like that. But, you know, he's, the one thing about WWE is you always never say never and he's one of those guys I could see come back, but I, I really like his independent run right now and, uh, and I'm glad he's still wrestling type stuff. Like, because I, I would have never thought he'd be one that would stick around and, um, if you would have told me this a year ago that yeah, he won't be on the company anymore, but he'll be wrestling in GCW out and be like, okay, yeah, real funny, whatever. But you know what I mean? So it's, yeah, it's good. I like what he's done. Uh, he, you've seen a lot of his highlights. I, I don't know how I'm, I walked in your on Twitter, but I see a lot of his highlights whenever he has a match and more power to him and I hope he keeps going. He's doing great. Yes. Yeah. I, I'm liking the run so far as well. I just saw in the chat and I just verified on social media that the Creed brothers, I don't even, I missed this. This is, you know, the Creed brothers are both going to be doing blood sport. Yeah. That's, yeah. Blood sport, which, you know, was great the other weekend. It wasn't GCW technically, but those blood sport events are awesome. Yeah. Yeah. They'll be a blood sport. So that was cool. That's, that's, that's super dope. I love that the creeds are doing that. They're going to be perfect in that setting. Um, also want to bring up that, uh, you know, just to keep everyone in the loop where we're at with the GCW World Championship situation. Uh, right now we have, um, well, well, to catch everyone up just a little bit right now, we have the current true champion is Mansmourner. He won the championship technically from Joey Janela after multiple things happen in the, the, the gauntlet of survival a few weeks ago. Mansmourner cashed in his, uh, do or die opportunity won the championship. Blake Christian never lost the title. He's been the champion for like around a year. Uh, when did the best of super juniors miss GCW weekend? So they stripped him of the title, but he has since returned and Blake Christian has his version of the championship. So we basically have two GCW champions walking around right now claiming to be the champion. Mansmourner being the true champion. Blake Christian never losing the title. Then you have Joe Janela as a guy who keeps getting screwed out of being the GCW champion also in that mix. Um, over the weekend, Blake Christian did wrestle. Um, he had a match again. Well, the first night we had Mansmourner supposed to wrestle Dontileone. They had like a quick match. It was a DQ finish setting up a tag team match for the next night, but the next night on crime wave, Blake Christian wrestled Sam stack house. Um, this was not entitled because Blake technically isn't the champion, but it's good to see Blake in the mix and that he is wrestling. And we do know there's going to be a triple threat. I believe a ladder match soon. Blake Christian versus Mansmourner versus Joe Janela to finally just put this all the rest and crown the actual for sure undisputed GCW champion. But along the way, we also just found out, I believe yesterday they put out the news, maybe two days ago, um, in Toronto tomorrow night for GCW, we're going to have Mansmourner versus Blake Christian, but it's non-title. So like they're not resolving anything with that match, but we are getting that match. So, um, so we'll see, we'll see how this all plays out. I mean, it's interesting because Blake and Mans are both heels, Joey's a babyface. So it's an interesting dynamic. Um, ultimately, I think Mansmourner should leave as the GCW champion when it's all said and done because they did a long build for him becoming the champion, the feud with Effie, the feud with SGC and all their friends. But the wild card and all this is the ratty daddy Coleradra. He has his brass ring still that he can cash in for any title shot. A lot of speculation he'll do that for the tag title of the garbage daddies him and out of price. Maybe go against balance the forever again for their titles. Shout out to VIF, the best tag team in the world in my opinion. But maybe, maybe somehow Coleradra finds up route. Maybe he climbs a ladder with his brass ring and just takes the championship for himself. Who knows? I love to see it because I love Coleradra. But I know that's a lot that I've just kind of thrown out there. Ultimately, Rob, how do you feel, I guess, right now about the GCW world title picture? And do you think when it's all said and done, I believe it's that homecoming, a speed as B pump mentioned, at homecoming when they finally have this, this match, who when it's all said and done is going to be the GCW champion. Is it going to be Blake Christian? Is it going to be Mansmourner? Is it going to be Joe Janela or is it going to be Coleradra? I think it'll be Joey Janela. I do. I think the story that they've been doing is pretty good. And, you know, I really like what they've done with Matt Cardona as the lead. So I think it's a good way to go. Plus, you know, I think with the, I would be completely cool if a ratty daddy one, but I'm just going with what my heart says. And I just think that's probably the best way to go. But it's been very entertaining and, you know, they have the event today. And then, you know, Blake Christian, he's a hell of a wrestler. But I just don't see him being the title holder again, you know, like a. Yeah. So I just have a feeling it's going to be Joey Janela. That's just me though. Yes. Paul Radrichor says shout out to Coradrichor's occasionally on In The Weeds. Yes. He's been, I mean, he's been on this show more than outside of maybe John Mosley, AKA Mose, AKA Jump and Johnny Mosley. I think Coradrich's been, I guess, on this show more than anybody else. I've been on Cole for years. So I, you know, I've, I've been on, I've been on his bandwagon for a long time. So it's good to see all the love that Cole's getting. Great dude. As you mentioned, there is a GCW event today. This afternoon, we have GCW Backyard Wrestling 6. I love these events as exactly as it sounds. They put a ring out in a field, usually with like above ground pools and fireworks at a whole bunch of nonsense, which I very much respect and love seeing that kind of stuff. We've got some matches announced for today. We got Dr. Radactant versus J.J. Allen. We got Eminem, who is a Jimmy, Jimmy Lloyd versus Claude Moreau, who is Ruckus. We got Keri Morton versus Sean Henderson. We got Lucky 13 versus the Ampyro. The Ampyro is Assad, who we actually saw getting beat up by Cody Rhodes and friends on SmackDown. So shout out to Assad. We'll also have Val and Jay and Nick Effengage announced for this show. So if you all want to watch some GCW this afternoon on Independence Day, it's going to be, I believe, at 2 p.m. Eastern time over on Shuler TV Plus. I'm not endorsed or sponsored by Shuler TV Plus to tell you to sign up for the platform, just I think it's a good idea if you're a fan to probably go ahead and do that. I am sponsored by independent wrestling.tv. You could use to go and fight talk over there if you want to check out that service. Let's them know that I sent you their way. Rob, any thoughts on backyard wrestling before we get out of here? No, I'm looking forward to it. First wrestling, which is based out of here in Minnesota, they had an event like that this past week where they have wrestled outside of an apartment complex. So I just always liked the out-of-the-norm type shows. So I know, like, I believe Jossy wrestled in that. So yeah, he wrestled Dan the dad. So and then he had Eric Cannon versus Billy Stark. So stuff like that. So. I love that. Yeah, shout out to first wrestling. You know better than me. They're probably the top, like, Minnesota-based. Oh, they are. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, good deal. Speaking of Minnesota, school Vikings, looking forward to seeing Rob. Yes, sir. And before you're out of here, man, let everyone know where to find you. Guys, you can follow me @Rob Wilkins on Twitter. I'm also on Instagram and threads @fightfulrob tomorrow at three o'clock Eastern. You can catch coexisting with Rob and Maggie on Fightful Overbook. We just have a bunch of nonsense that we talk about and just have fun. We'll be doing predictions for Money in the Bank and Heatwave as well. And we'll probably give a quick review of Forbidden Door and talk about everything that went down with AWS. So it'll be a good show and we just have a good old time. So catch us. I think more people need to watch our show because we're pretty fun. So I'll say that. Love it. And as speed punk says in the chat, American Rana is tonight over on IWTV. So if you want to use good fight talk, check that out. Donovan Dijash is going to be on there. I talked quite a bit about Dijash's return to the indies on the weekend or podcast. You want to check that out over on Fightful Select.com. Power Driver Finisher with the Wrestle Rumble. Dude, thank you for that Power Driver Finisher. I was about to mention that we needed one more and you just got it. So we are giving away three entries for the Wrestle Rumble Pick 'em Contest for Money in the Bank with them on screen right now. I do have the three winners for you guys. So if anyone wins an entry right now, if I say your name, my DMs are open on Twitter, please just DM me before then to smack down tomorrow. That's all I ask. Just before the end of smack down tomorrow, just shoot me a DM. I'll get your email and I'll make sure that on Saturday, you get a free entry to potentially win $500 for the Money in the Bank Pick 'em Contest. And also, as I mentioned before, for only $1, jump over there and try to win some replica world title belts over there on WrestleRumble.com. The three winners of our Wrestle Rumble Pick 'em Contest entries are Tyler Deanna, that's awesome AL and Power Driver Finisher. So if the three of y'all could just send me a DM sometime between now and the end of smack down, I will make sure that WrestleRumble emails you a free entry for the Money in the Bank Pick 'em Contest. Good luck on winning $500 for free by watching the show today. So if you want more free entries, I will be giving some away on my X/Twitter over the next couple of days. So just keep a look out for that at Fight Talk underscore. Once again, use code "FightTalk" into the petarastling.tv and listen to the Fightful Select Week under podcast. That is every Sunday, sometimes Mondays, over on Fightful Select.com, covering the world of independent professional wrestling. And yeah, anything left raw before we get out of here? No, man, I'm good to go. I appreciate you having me. I really do and want to thank Jeremy for letting me fill in for his spot. And I just try to keep it warm for him for one week. He'll be back next week, I'm sure. And I just want to say thanks for giving me the opportunity to sit here with you guys. Absolutely. Thank you very much for joining me, Rob. I appreciate you as a peer and as a friend. So thank you very much. Jeremy should be back next week. We should have an interview for you all next week as well. I am working on locking down a time for that interview. If it is who I've been talking to, it should be a good one. Someone I want to talk to for a while. So try to get that locked down. But either way, we will make sure we have an interview for you all next week. We didn't want to do it this week because didn't know how long we'd be doing this show for and you'd generally have to take the week off and stuff like that. So regular schedule next week, about an hour and a half of talking live, followed up by a pre-recorded interview for you all next Thursday, 30 AM Eastern time right here on the spotlight. Also, happy Independence Day once again to everybody here in the States and happy Joey Chestnut Day. Although he is not competing in the Nathan's hotdog eating contest, I will be watching it and Joey will be still doing his own contest later today around five o'clock. Here's another picture of me and Joey together. Nice and sign me with that mustard belt. So shout out to Joey Chestnut. And yeah, watch good stuff today. As I mentioned at the top of the show, I was doing this, then I've got the Nathan's hotdog eating contest about to start. And then I got GSW Backyard Wrestling. Then I got Joey Chestnut's hotdog eating contest. Also, he'll be eating hot dogs in September against Kobayashi on Netflix. So that all said, I have this even Jensen for Ron Wilkins. Happy Independence Day. See y'all next week. Literally. But don't sweat it. Granger has you covered. Granger offers over a million industrial grade products for all your operations, including warehouse HVAC maintenance. And even better, they offer access to experts and fast delivery. So you and your warehouse can both keep your cool. Call 1-800-GRANGER, click Granger.com, or just stop by. Granger, for the ones who get it done.
