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Go Home To Heatwave | WWE NXT 7/2/2024 Full Show Review & Results

Duration:
2h 11m
Broadcast on:
03 Jul 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

Alex (@AlexSourGraps) and Kate (@MissKatefabe) review tonight's episode of NXT, including:


-Street Fight: Jaida Parker vs. Michin

-Singles Match: Carlee Bright vs. Wendy Choo

-Singles Match: Brinley Reece vs. Izzi Dame

-Tag Team Match: New Catch Republic (Pete Dunne & Tyler Bate) vs. Hank Walker & Tank Ledger

-Tag Team Match: Tyson DuPont & Tyriek Igwe vs. Gallus (Wolfgang & Joe Coffey)


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- Hello, Fightful Faithful. Welcome to another episode of Sour Grabs, the Tuesday NXT edition. I'm Alex, this is Kate, everything sucks. Kate, you used to do these things where you would break in and then take over for the-- - Alex, I would do that. This is what I would do. - You would do that. - When I would do these things. - Yeah. - I would tell you to please leave a thumbs up on this video. I would tell you that it is July 2nd in your NXT post show and I would tell you to please subscribe to Fightful Select. And normally when we tell you to subscribe to Fightful Select Alex, we come on here. - Right. - And we say best scoops in the game, right? Like the most, the most accurate. We tell you about all the bonus content we have. We tell you about the Discord that we have. - That's right. - I'm gonna be selfish on this one. Yesterday's episode of Sour Grabs on Fightful Select should be in the Hall of Fame. Whatever podcast Hall of Fame there is. I was sleep deprived, you guys. If you didn't, if you weren't here yesterday, I was, I was, I was on a loopity loop loop and Alex, God bless him. Somehow made it through the whole episode with me. But we walked right into a bit. I was, I was extremely silly in general. We're gonna bring that bit back tonight because what I did was I just, I took my medius crumb experience at AW from this weekend and I was like, what if I just treated Alex like he was at the focal point of this medius crumb? - Right, not sure. - So I think people are not only gonna have questions for you, but probably dusty roads and maybe Braun Strowman questions about getting hands. I know I certainly will. I had a hoo in a Hall of Fame yesterday. I don't know, quite frankly, don't care if you did. Sorry about that, 'cause I just had a great time. But we love doing saurographs behind the paywall. And the added insanity only adds to the fun. So get into the Super Chats and Hopper Chats for tonight. Head on over to FightfulSelect.com and subscribe. Go check out yesterday's RAW review because it's a roller coaster, you guys. A roller coaster was tonight's episode. And a lot of it was a roller coaster that this was like, (mumbles) Rinder, (laughs) Wasn't great. - Like, normally I'm used to roller coasters going up and down. Maybe a loop to loop. I haven't been a lot of roller coasters just do hard left turns. Just like pouring like that. - Well, it's like, I mean, they gotta make turns at some point. - But usually they're fairly gradual, even, they're curves. Like this was like, we decided to go 90 degrees in the opposite direction, you know what I mean? And that's usually it's not good for breaks. - No, but I certainly did not feel like this episode started like, up a. - Oh, no, I was, I mean, it was, the beginning was actually a highlight of the episode. So it was not all down. - Okay, fine. And I roller coaster metaphor sucks, Alex, I get it. - I mean, listen, I overthink everything. So perhaps don't just throw out a metaphor that doesn't actually apply here. - I was trying to segue into the episode. - So everyone in the chat has decided that we're gonna do scoops puns, like journalism puns because you're such a journalist answering questions. - 'Cause my bit. - But also because Corey was supposed to be here. So say it's Corey on Twitter and the coward is not. - Let me tell you something about Corey Brennan, okay? He puts out this tweet last week like, "Oh, I'll be around next week. "I don't care that it's true of the morning by time." And then he says, "Today, I'm gonna be here." And he messages me that he's gonna be here too. And then he's like, "Actually, I'm not gonna, "because of something procedural on our back end." - Right. - Which is what he wants me to believe. It's what he wants me to believe. It's what he wants from Sauer Graham's society to believe. - Right. - I have been calling him a coward since his first appearance. - You have, you've been consistent. - I have, and I've been, I think tonight, I've been proven right. - Yeah, oh, for sure, it's undeniable at this point. - It's undeniable. - Because Corey is undesirable. - Right. - So, no, Corey, we're running today. But stay tuned if I have some ideas, a lot of updates about all sorts of stuff, actually. There was a whole array of things to talk about, but if I have some ideas, I'll have more for you. - Your dad has, for us, greetings, SGS, everything sucks except this crowd. For those of us in the United States, happy independence day minus two, especially to great Americans like J.W. Elizabeths. - He is a great patriot of our time. Thanks, Sam. - Yep. Is that really great, you know, that movie Independence Day? - Of course. - Yeah, it was, my favorite part of that movie is where they blow up Camp David, where all the Supreme Court justices were hanging out. Anyway, so we start off the night on NXT with our street fight between Jada Parker and Meet Jin. - We did. - It was very good. - It was very good. - I feel like I was on board the Jada Parker trend. I'm on board the Jada Parker train fairly early. I really like almost everything about her except for her running butt. Like that's honestly, that's it. That's the fact that she finishes people with a running butt. I'm fine with it as this transitional move, but as a finisher, it just feels weird because everything else she does feels so much more like instead of a running butt. You know what I mean? - Sure. - So, but. (laughing) - Fun intended. I really loved her in here because we've seen also Mia Yim and NXT. This was kind of her bag. She had a lot of these types of matches. So it is great to see her putting over Jada Parker in kind of her signature NXT match. But once again, I am going to bang the drum of, is she in NXT or is she on the main roster? Because, and I cannot stress this enough, it really shouldn't be both. It really shouldn't be both. I feel like you've got a big enough roster across three brands that you could just pick one night and that's the night that these people are on. - I also can't emphasize the frustration that I have enough of these people are different people on both brands. And I showed up today and I showed up with New Catra Public. But yes, so the good of this is, it was a great match. This is Mia Yim's wheelhouse. The spot of her going face first into the chair is going to be living in people's minds forever. - I've never seen that. Like I've seen a lot of like, I'm going to do a suicide die of whoops, I hit the wrong thing. I've never seen it being like, I'm just going to throw, I'm just going to propel myself teeth first into a chair that doesn't give at all when I hit it. - That was just bonkers. Shout out to the camera crew too that did a good job of making that spot look vicious 'cause I think you could see her get her hands down, otherwise she would no longer have a face. So just, she always goes balls to the walls in this thing and then on the main roster, she gets squashed by nine deaths in a minute. You know what I mean? It's, that is a creative frustration. It's what we said when the drafts happen. I had a spirited discussion with Shawn as I said and I was right, Shawn, okay? I was right about this because it is genuinely, you and I watch all three shows every week, right? If you were casually tuning in and you saw who this person was on Friday and then you, who is a heel kind of most of the time on the main roster and then, you know, this, this, she's a, out of the main roster, she's a portrayed as a heel who's not very good, right? In NXT, she's a face and she's fantastic at what she does and to me, she should be a heel who's fantastic at what she does. Is my, is my me a yim preference? Newcat Republic, I don't know if they've been on Raw since they got drafted to Raw. So if you watch from Raw time till now, all they have to do is have some appearances on the brand they were on. - Yeah. - And then, you know, Ava saying we didn't get anything from the draft, so we are gonna be able to pull main roster talent when we can and show her doing the negotiating, show her doing these things. 'Cause the other thing is Alex and this is not a conversation for right now, the NXT call-ups, fantastic talent. - Yeah. - One of them has had a plan and it's Lyra. Elliot Dragotov is like a top 10 wrestler in the world and he's, he's showing out and he's getting screen time but he's just in stuff. He doesn't have a story. - No. - Carmelo Hayes kind of has latched onto a story now but they called him up and just had him face some top talent and get some losses. - I mean, there's no creative plans for people. - I also feel like getting the worst of it. - Yeah. I also feel like Carmelo was kind of a soft call-up back in like December. Like he was in a tournament to crown the new US title, number one contender when he was like, he was doing stuff in NXT and they're like, hey, be on SmackDown for a little while, do this thing. And so he had a soft call up in the winter. So did, well, Tiffany Stratton was straight up in the Royal Rumble. So like they've done some stuff with her too but it's not been consistent. Yeah, I feel like the people who get called up, it's kind of unconscionable to call them up with that a plan. You know what I mean? Especially when you kind of strip the cupboard bear in certain places. - Sure, I hope that Jack is having a great day. I'll just put it that way. That's like the perfect summation of you had a title program built for someone called him up and didn't put him on TV and let him walk. Like it's the relationship between the main roster and NXT has some pain points that they desperately need to address and they all kind of come to a head around the draft, I guess to my point. But the, if you're going to do it against what I consider better judgment, you cannot have split personalities. Like that just drives me nuts. And I think that's extremely confusing for people who are just tuning in or just getting familiar with any of the products because they're different human beings. The match was great. None of that is a reflection of the two people that were involved in this. Jada Parker is a star. I think she's, I'm always so impressed with people this early in their career to get match pacing so well and she very much does. Like, she's in there with me again who gets it as well as anybody. But she's really latched on to a lot of things here and she got to do some different stuff that we've been getting to see her do. So this is a very productive opener. And I like, yeah. - Yeah, Mr. Big Dude asking about Braun Breaker and his plan, John for the IC title again, signed to a full-time contract in February. - To SmackDown. To SmackDown didn't do anything between that and the draft, then got drafted to Raw different than being called up in the draft. I would say it's a technicality. He certainly got a plan now, but they did call him up and signed him to a full-time deal in on SmackDown. And then after they did that, then they sent him back to NXT to win the Dusty Cup. We're not gonna go into that right now 'cause I'll blow a friggin' gasket. But yeah, so it's a weird thing with all of this. - It was Braun. I think they genuinely didn't know it sounded like if they wanted him to be in a tag team with Baron Corbin or not 'cause I don't think they thought that was gonna catch fire the way it did and it did. So now they've made this move and it'll work dividends for him, I think. - Right. - But it's stuff that is bigger than this episode of NXT but that I hope they address in the future. - Jada Parker, she did the running butt through the weird cardboard at the base of the Raven's Nest. That's the Braunbreaker Von Wagner Memorial Spot. And they did that with her butt doing it and her head kinda got caught up in the cardboard that wasn't cardboard. So she almost really hurt herself but then she went in and did the running butt in the ring to get the victory. Secure into victory, what a maneuver, the running butt. - What a maneuver! - So yeah, again, I think it was the right call for Jada Parker. I see her as a future one of the two championships they have for women on NXT. Certainly will be one of them. - Ariana Grace and Karam Petrovitch, because Canada are friends for three weeks. And that's what we're just gonna do now. Like I'm like, (sighs) again, everything, literally everything about Ariana Grace's character for me is perfect except the damn tiara in this action. (laughs) And that almost ruins it. - Sure. - That is, that, I am sorry but that is who I am. I do not, what pageant, did they have an NXT pageant that was not televised? I don't see like, like Booker T's like, what you don't understand is she is Miss NXT. And I, no, I understand that she is not that because that is not a thing that anybody is because that's not a pageant that exists. - Okay, I get very annoyed when they retcon us with stuff. I would be extremely open to Miss NXT pageant retcon. And it's like Shayna Beazler's in it looking at her like with, where the hell am I? She is incredible at the character side of stuff. I completely get and share a lot of your frustration with the fact that she's the, her character is based off of being a pageant winner of a pageant that does things is. But her ability to latch onto the comedic stuff is very good. - I understand that Ariana was a legit pageant contestant outside of NXT, the same way Kalani Jordan was a legit gymnastics person outside of NXT. But inside NXT she didn't win any friggin' pageants because there are no Miss NXT pageants. - I also feel like perhaps Shawn Michaels and I disagree on what it means to take yourself and turn yourself up to 11. He seems to think that means take your hobby or your job and turn it up to 11. I am of the belief it should be like your personality traits. You know why I got into wrestling and CM Punk, right? Like that makes sense. Eddie Kingston is himself turned up to 11. I'm a gymnast is not yourself turned up to 11, which we're gonna get into twice tonight. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I liked the backstage bit between Ariana Grace and Carmen Petrovitch. - Where's his eye? - I thought it was fun, like, you know I'm from Toronto too, but like, yeah, but you're not really from Toronto. So it's Ariana grant, Ariana Venti. So I thought this was, it was funny. It was, I liked the interplay, it was fine. Where you lose me is like, these new girls jitting all the shine. That's why these old hands are coming in here to take back the locker room. You know, these veterans, like Jasmine Nicks, with several more continents than is allowed by law. You know, like-- - It's allowed by law. - I just, I don't, I guess she's, you know, she's the sidekick to JC Jane, but I love the JC Jane and Fallon Henley being pissed at like the girls who've been here since the, since the beginning of 2.0 are getting the shaft in favour of the shiny new toys. But they should also be like, yeah, you're also a shiny new toy, but we like you. 'Cause you take orders from us, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like they should acknowledge the fact that Jasmine Nicks is a shiny or new toy. - Yes, that is very fair. - I also feel like there is a place for, you're gonna send out all this main roster talent. Like, do either the, you're not the veterans around here, I'm on the main roster and I'm actually the veteran, or have them be on the side of the bad girl veterans and have them do like a, an entire veteran side of things. Like me, I'm not being involved in this angle feels weird. - Yeah, yeah, there you go. I forgot, thank you, Jambir, for correcting me. I need to do this to be more culturally sensitive. It's not Toronto, it's Toronto. 'Cause that's how it's for the culture. That is how it's pronounced in Toronto. - So, yeah, I am, person got to hear Joel Pearl say, "Hey, it was the greatest thing ever." - Wow, that's cool. - Like an authentic Canadian egg. - What a flower in your cap. So, we got a lot of vignettes tonight. - It was a very vignette. - It was a vignette heavy, it was vignette heavy. - It was. - I will bundle all of the men in the Fatal Four Way for the NXT Championship and I'll talk about all of those at the same time before the scintillating main event segment. But I will try and tackle the others in the order in which we get them with the exception of this. (laughs) - So, for your NXT Women's Championship, we're getting Killani Jordan versus Solruka. And they did two vignettes for them. Actually, they did one vignette for them twice. - That's more accurate. - But I appreciated that within the formula of gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics, inspirational quote by an NBA player, gymnastics, that's basically what each vignette was. However, I'm not trying to not kill any Jordan here. I don't even think it's her fault at all in any way. Her character is gymnastics. That's the background of Solruka's character, but her character isn't gymnastics. And that's a huge difference there, because also what I only liked as well was the difference in their backgrounds in gymnastics. They were both national champions in certain events, in gymnastics when they were in college. But the contrast between I was doing this when I was five winning tournaments during, is a gymnast, Rokalani Jordan. And Solruka being like, "One day I thought maybe I'd build a balance beam in my backyard. Turns out I was pretty good at it." I did fall on my face a lot though. Those are two wildly different types of people. And one of them, because it's off the beaten path and a little different, to me, translates to more attachment from me to her character in Solruka. Because Kalani Jordan basically being like, "All I ever wanted to do was to be the best at something." So I'm from a ridiculously early age. Hey guys, I'm here to tell you about eBay Auto. eBay Motors is the leading online platform for automotive dealers to get their inventory in front of over 7 million ready-to-buy shoppers who are buying cars and trucks on eBay Motors every three minutes, every single day. They make it easy to find parts for cars, trucks, SUVs, motorcycles, and more. They even offer a massive selection of new and pre-owned classics. 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Granger, for the ones who get it done. - I spent way too many hours for a child, practicing gymnastics until I got to be one of the best in the world at it. Then I went to Michigan State, which is like where all the best gymnasts go, got a full ride there, won a bunch of titles, was a finalist for female college athlete of the year. And after all of that, now I've come here and I'm gonna use all of that to be the best wrestler I can be. But like, man, none of that tells me who you are. It tells me what you've done. And I don't know who you are. I still know who you are. But I look at Solruk and I know who she is. Does that make like, just the way that they've decided, like I don't know how much input she has into what her character's presented like? But it looks like this is just who she is. And they've decided, yeah, we're gonna use that. That's really cool. And I have no doubt that this is who Kalani is, but that to me feels walled off. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? And psychoanalyzing this, a woman who is still in her very early 20s who spent her life since she was a child in elementary school, just full on blinders to everything else, gotta be the best at gymnastics. Of course is walled off in a kind of way to like bringing people into who she is because she'd never had time for that for her entire life. And I'm interested in what that does to you and how that makes you run a foul of other people, not how you just mask it all with a smile. So if she ever does a heel run, that I'll be interested in to see how they harness that whole thing. I in order to be where I am, I had to cut everything else out of my life. And so I don't give a damn about you, you or you, all I care about is me, this title, and staying the best. That to me is way more compelling than, "Golly gosh, she whiz, I'm so good at gymnastics." Like it just, it doesn't do it for me. - I felt like they had a real opportunity and they still kind of do because she's the champ. I thought this is where they were gonna go with us, but they didn't. I thought it was gonna be, I accomplished all these things for my hard work and never had to defend any of those things for my hard work. - Would you win a trophy? You don't have to like go defend that gymnastics trophy regularly. You move on to other competitions and you win other trophies. So I thought there was gonna be this really cool thing of I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this. You can't be college athlete of the year twice, right? Like all these things. I thought it was gonna be, and then I reached the top of this mountain, and now what? Is like a really compelling story to someone who is achievement addicted. She is incredibly likable and incredibly gifted in the ring and stunning and has so much like natural likability. But, and they're in the early phases of this. So I'm optimistic that it'll get better, but it did just feel, it felt like Ted GBT wrote it a little bit, and that's rough and that's not even on her. But it also feels like the thing that makes me nervous with NXT is we've had this discussion before too, character versus gimmick. And NXT is very gimmick heavy, and I think Kalani Jordan is probably very character, closer to the character side of things. And I don't want them to screw that part up for her, because I think there's something in it that we might not have tapped into yet, but don't make her cartoonishly goofy about it. Like, that makes me, that makes me nervous. So I hope they don't do that to her. They still got a ways to go on the character side, but you're right, the sole Ruka one felt so different, and we have such context for who she is, and they've really gotten away from the thing that makes me nervous with gimmicks of, it doesn't feel like surfer with the cool finish already more. And they were teetering that line, and they got back away from it. And I feel like there's almost this, don't get mad. There's like a Darby Alishness to her of- - No, no there isn't. - Hear me out. - There just, there isn't. - There's a Daredevil that doesn't give a shit if she falls that on her face in there. That's like the thing that you don't care about, that people like Darby Allen for is- - Right. - It's like getting back up without feeling disgustingly underdog about it. It's just a, and shook it off kind of thing. So. - Yeah, no, I'm not gonna get into it 'cause we'll be here all night, but that is the opposite of what Darby Allen is. Darby Allen is performative. Darby Allen is look at me, look at me do this stupid thing. I'm gonna do it, it feels like he's doing it because he knows it's stupid. And sole Ruka is doing it accidentally, and then brushing it off in a way that is self-deprecating. That is, he takes himself too seriously. She is the opposite. That's why I like her and don't like him. I will not be taking any questions at this time. We're moving on. - Fine, we won't do that in our scrum at the end of the night. - Okay. Will Chisholm saying that it's funny that the old heads are like 25 and the kids are 18. Unlike black and gold was like 35. - Yeah, well they're not looking for people they're than 25 on the women's side. So that's the oldest you can get. I know, I've got one more to your left. - There you go, there you go. That's it. And then you're an old head. - Yeah. - Color me surprised that Hank Walker and Tank Ledger lasted what appeared to be 38 minutes versus versus Tyler Bay and might be done. I don't know how long the match was, but I swear there were four commercial breaks during it. Like it was way like usually in NXT. Hey, we got this exhibition match like all about tag team spirit. And it's like it's six minutes, no commercial break. It's good, it's fast. They get in, they get out for, I don't know exactly what, here's my theory. They were all set to do this team tie tie, bouncy beef versus gals in Anderson. And for whatever reason, they pulled it from the show. But they just gave all of the time that was gonna get to this other tag match. And what showed me was that Hank and Tank can hang and they can hold the tank. (laughing) - Damn it. You can't do it. - Hank and Tank can hang and tank. - And say. - Yes, there you go. I, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, yes, wait a second. He'd say, I'm all in on Tank and his helmet. The fact that everyone was like, what the hell are you doing with the helmet? Make me think it was not a, it was just a thing that he picked up in props. And it was, it was not part of his interview. - It meant to be a thing. - But it should be a thing. And also get one for Hank. - He has a ton of personality. And we saw it and then they kind of didn't do anything with him for a while. And they kind of came back. 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I was really proud of myself. When you said this seemed like 38 minutes, I was like, "We're going to do a Bluetooth segue." And then you gave me that and that was just like... - Yeah, that's good. I liked that. That was well done. Thank you. But yes, but Hank and Tank were busy hanging and tanking. And they were doing... Like, it looked good. Like, they looked way more competent than I thought they were. You know what I mean? - Yeah, again, you see them do a lot. Like, I think this added time was really helpful. - It was, it was very helpful because a lot of times they only let the people do four-minute matches because that's all they got. - Sure. - You know what I mean? Like, here's all of the moves you know. How long is that gonna take you to do? About four, four and a half minutes. - Great, that's how long you got. And that's still a felt mental. You know what I mean? But of course, these guys have been hiding something. So that's good. I'm happy about this. New Catch Republic won as they should. But there was no ill will here. And this is building Hank and Tank for later, perhaps some tilts with the heels that are going to eventually be the champions, hopefully. - I was very impressed by both Hank and Tank in this. They've come a long way since we're in the same outfit every week. It felt like they're fun big guys until tonight. Like, tonight was the breakout of seeing the Arsenal that they have, seeing the well that they can go to. And also, they're in there with two of the best wrestlers in the world. Like, they also knew how to make that match look really, really, really, really good. You would not know that they were on RAW. This is my other problem. You would not know that Pete Dunn was also producing speed matches or whatever the hell. Because the Miz in our truth should not be champions and they shouldn't be losing to Judgment Day. Like, they should be building the tag division around them. I have all four Judgment Day losing to them if they wanted to go build them back up. But like, this is fine. I just want to know, are you here to make Hank and Tank look good or are you here for a run? Like, this goes back to the problem that we were talking about at the beginning of the episode. But this match was really good. I think it did a lot for Hank and Tank. New Catch Republic continued to just be two of the best ever. So, it was really good. - Yeah. Oromensa meeting with Ava's competing assistants. This competition that they're doing, this reality show competition with no judges and the winner becomes Ava's only assistant. That's going to last us until the middle of 2025, right? So, like, that's, I mean, like it's, I'm already so tired of it. I know, I don't have, like, I tellin' ya, man, put Robert Stone with an actual guy who can wrestle. It's a perfect, he'd be really good at it, I promise. Stevie Turner, I think she could, honestly, I have no problem with Stevie Turner, being Ava's assistant. - And they got to apply it when you-- - Or whatever, like, I have no problem with that at all. Like, I don't like the competition between the two of them. I don't know, I don't know, I just need things to make sense. And I don't know why these people are competing to be Ava's assistant when they had completely different roles three weeks ago. - I feel like they're both doing really well with it. Like, I didn't know that Stevie Turner's personality could kind of do stuff that was like this because she was someone that had two matches and also tried to steal my gimmick for a minute. - Stealing your gimmick, can't have that. - 24-year-old Kate's gonna come in there and kick your ass to me, Turner. - That's right. - But, I think they're both doing all right with it. It's just, is this the apprentice? Like, are you competing for a job? Like, it is, you get so, like, bashful when you were like, "I just need it to make sense." Like, you shouldn't need it to make sense, that's a fair thing. 'Cause it's also not a minor detail you're hung up on. It's like, what is, are they competing for a job? So I think they're doing very well with what they've been handed. I'm just, I'm confused about what they've been handed. - But they have to be the bearer of bad news. Oral Mensa will get a match tonight against Miles Bourne from "No Quarter Catch Crew." However, because of the repeated attacks against Ethan Page, he will not be allowed to travel to Toronto for heatwave. Oh, wait, it's in Canada for heatwave, eh? And he seems okay with it? And so here's the deal. Two separate people in separate, entirely separate storylines were told they're not going to heatwave because we can't trust them to not get involved in somebody else's match. Which means at least one of them is going to see the heatwave and getting involved. At least one, probably both, but at least one. So, but yeah, so Mr. Stone and Stevie Turner just bickering back and forth about who's great idea it was to do this. And people that Stone doesn't have the balls to be the one to tell Oral Mensa to his face that he's not allowed to travel to heatwave. And Jim just being-- - Have the stones? - There you go, that's good, thank you. - Not to heatwave in Toronto, that's for sure. - I feel like Oral Mensa might not be going 'cause I think he's in pages, come on, Flynn. - I mean-- - Maybe no, I'm sorry, I was cleared. - I think they're told us that two people aren't going because one of them definitely is going, and that person is Rich Holland. - Yeah, I think that's the more likely stitch. So, yeah, Izzy Dame defeated Brinley Reese, Tatum Paxtley also got involved. I don't know what to say about this. Izzy Dame is very big, and I think there's a lot of potential there in what she can do. I, man, it is, I'm not saying that none of these people you've signed from being college athletes who are really good in college but have no help of a pro career. I'm not saying that all of them are going to be bad wrestlers. In fact, we've seen several of them turn out to be pretty good, but commentary can't just tell me how fast they can spike a volleyball. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like once they've gotten here, their character shouldn't be I was a college athlete. I don't care what sport you played. Figure out a way to make them compelling outside of that. Please. - And not every single one, every single one was like, is their whole character is involved in that? And then they have a legit amateur wrestler in Kendall Gray. - Right. - And she isn't showing that. Maybe she is on, I don't watch level up, so I don't know. But it just feels like, I mean, today we got two gymnastics ones and they both included a quote from a basketball player. Like, that's how much these are a formula. And Izzy Dayme, I feel like has so much to her outside of volleyball. Like her size and strength or whatever. I get the contextualizing it with another sport thing, but like, she's already done a lot of stuff here. She's already been somebody's heavy. Like the idea of her being a heavy that's now stepping into her own and was like, you know what? I was never meant to be someone's backup. I was meant to be like a badass on my own. That's a character development. Like that they just could skip over and could not skip over instead of skipping over it. So and you just, you're recruiting so many that everybody having that story is really, really boring. - Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, there are more college athletes on this episode tonight. Yes, there are indeed. - So Izzy, Izzy Dayme, beating Brinley Reese, then Tatum Paxtley like crawling up behind Izzy Dayme and Izzy Dayme being creeped out by her. Now, I'm gonna, this is, this might sound too sweeping of a generalization, but they're probably just gonna screw up the Wyatt six entirely inside of the before the year is out. But if they don't and you want to do spooky stuff in WWE, you've got to figure out a way to join that group. There's no room for multiple spooky angles. You got one spooky, and when an angle is that spooky, that's the spooky angle, there are no other spooky angle. So with both Tatum Paxtley doing like, she's doing like obsessive goth chick. It's spooky adjacent. - It is spooky adjacent. - We will definitely see Wendy Chiu as like auditioning to be in the Wyatt seven. You know what I mean? Like it is, it's really hard to like take, I don't know how you take a character like what Wendy Chiu is doing to the main roster and keep it separate from what the Wyatt's are doing. - I mean, the easiest answer that they would give you would be to put her on SmackDown. And she's on a different thing, but they-- - Sure, yeah. - It feels inevitable that an act that is that robust and unique will eventually spill over on SmackDown. They've certainly done it for less. But you rather have to keep them on different shows or not, Wendy Chiu is unbelievable. - The fact that she can do this at all is amazing and then she could do a lot of other things as well. So yeah, my hope-- - They might also just switch it up when she, like it would be a waste, but they might. - My hope, my hope is that she does this as an experiment and it's really fun and cool. And whenever she goes to the main roster, she does another thing. You know what I mean? 'Cause she can. And this is, you know, maybe she's a dragon. I don't know, dragon Chiu. I knew we'd get back to that somehow. I knew we'd get back to dragon Chiu proper. - Right, okay, I've been avoiding this. Chase you, they're in full-on classroom. It's not just the main characters. It's not just the main characters who we know and don't love. It's sitting there, like having a little pow wow before their big tag match. There's a bunch of other extras there as well. It's a full classroom. And while Andre Chase is running down the history of tag matches in Toronto, Duke and Ridge Holland, who is again now officially, I guess, a tuition paying student at ChaseU for some reason. Are like arguing back and forth, like in hushed tones while the teacher is talking, he's like, do you have something you want to share with the rest of the class? Duke, Duke's like, all right, I can't hide it anymore. When we beat, whoever it is we beat, I forget what it was. I didn't mean clean. He gave me the assist. I didn't ask for the assist, but Ridge Holland gave me the assist and we didn't mean clean. And then, and like Ridge, is this true? Like, that's true. And then the hell goes, oh, Ridgey. I threw up in my mouth, it was so terrible, okay. And it was, it was like, you've been a family to me. You, the four people whose names I know and all of the extras in here who have never met before in my life, you're all family to me. That's why I'm paying you crazy tuition money. I couldn't get any student loans 'cause I'm 35 years old. So I'm just, I'm paying out. It's really hard to pay for tuition on an NXT salary. I don't know if you all know that, but I love you so much, you're my family. And that's why I did what I did, 'cause like, 'cause I love you all so much and I want you to be tag chumps and, and then Andre Chase says and then Riley, of course, that Riley, Riley Miles born, he is, he is just, I knew it. I knew we couldn't trust him. And then Andre Chase, like obviously everyone here, including myself, made mistakes. Yeah, you almost lost your university handling. In light of this new information, I'm afraid I can't allow you to travel with us, to Heatwave. And originally, I couldn't have spoke that. And he does not respect that. He's gonna definitely gonna show up at Heatwave and he's going to cost Nathan Frazier and Axiom the tag titles and then it will become, are we willing to be cheaters who are champions or will we do the honorable thing and vacate the tag team titles so we can have another tournament? - Kylie has asked a Kate from Fightful, has asked any questions. And I think that would be a good time to start. Hi, this is Kate from Fightful. There were two instances on tonight's episode of NXT in which people stated that they were not going to Heatwave. I was just wondering on a scale of one to complete BS, how much BS that is and is this related to any possible visa issues that were challenged by him? - We of course do a credit check on all of our wrestlers before we sign them just to make sure that they can get an apartment in the Orlando area and he does indeed have a visa. So I think we're all right there, good. - Follow up question about yesterday actually. Any update on Ricochet, who you said his body rejected his ribs? - The nearest, the most recent update we've gotten from the local medical facility, from the local doctor at the local medical facility is that his ribs are still disintegrated and therefore they cannot put the ribs back in him. And again, there have been multiple attempts to transplant new ribs into Ricochet and unfortunately the body keeps rejecting the ribs and we have a lot of people on the donor list for new ribs and so we can't just keep giving this guy more ribs if his body's going to keep rejecting them. So we're going to have to move on. Unfortunately, it looks like if he ever comes out of his coma that he will be ribless. It's a shame, final question. Gymnastics? - Gymnastics. - Great, thank you so much for your time. - I don't know, I don't know if that works for anybody but us. - I don't care. - Okay, good. - I hope it does, but I love it so much. - Okay, good. (laughs) - Bad Apple Jam tree beard says learning tree is greater than chase you. I mean, they're both the pits. - Alex's favorite thing. - They're both the pits for sure. Tim McFall says chase you, who cares, you won. Also, watch the product. - There is a discrepancy between how much people are watching things backstage in real time and how many weeks of lag time there is between realizing something happened with set footage. - Right, JW Pringle says that, unfortunately, Rich Holland could only afford an associates in thugonomics. (laughs) Not a doctorate. - That's really good. - Okay, so, um, all right. Roller coasters. Again, up and down, up and down. Not- - I get it, Ellen. - Not in a straight line and then the hard left turned is something I did not think was, we were gonna ever gonna see. - Can't work like this. Roxanne comes out with two very large men as security for her face to face with low device. And it's your normal, everyday, back and forth. You're impressive, but you can't beat me, type of deal. And then all of a sudden, low device descends into madness. I don't, like this, I don't, I don't doubt that she feels these emotions genuinely. While talking about her mother and the sacrifices that her mother made and the sacrifices that she made for her mother. She says that she was already to join the Olympics in like Taekwondo. And then her mother got sick. So she had to drop out of that and start doing MMA because MMA pays money and Taekwondo usually doesn't. And that's like all of us, but she did it in this very, and I, again, I do not believe it was insincere, but she was wailing like, she wailing keening subs so upset by having to relive this in telling this to Roxanne. And my thought was going into this feud when we got two heels here. So what are we, how are we gonna, what are we gonna do to like differentiate the kinds of heels that they are in the match? Like Roxanne is smaller, maybe quicker, but definitely more cerebral. How will she figure out a way to solve the fact that Lola is bigger, stronger, and quicker as amazing striking ability, and Lola seems kind of unstoppable. And I was like, let's see how they navigate the differences between those two different types of heels and no, we're just gonna turn Lola Vice Babyface with her crying about her mom out of the friggin' blue. Like, again, I don't doubt it's insincere. I'm calling into question the thought to give that kind of vulnerability to a woman who I think is going to be heel again next Tuesday, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't feel like they're doing a full character change. It's just, you know-- - Well, now because of the emotion to me, I don't think it was intended, but now it does feel that way. So Kudos to Roxanne too for some of this, because she did some good work in the beginning here saying some generic stuff, and then Lola Vice got really locked up, like she was trying to deliver her lines, and I think because of the emotion she just froze. - And Roxanne immediately was like, what I was trying to say was, and then went into this really great piece of this that was, I don't doubt that, like you took Shayna Baszler to her limit, and I don't think I would last two minutes in that match, but I'm not giving you that match. This isn't MMA, this isn't that. You're gonna fight my match. And that kind of opened the door, and I also loved when she said, you crossed me my first title, thanks for that, by the way, 'cause look at me now, that was all good, but she really jumped in because Lola Vice at One Point froze, and I knew what she was feeling, 'cause I had that happen to be just in voice lessons and stuff before of, you're like, oh shit, if I go there right now, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna lose it, and I'm not gonna be able to say any of the things that I said, and then that kind of happened with her shortly after this. And yeah, she's a face now. Like whether that was supposed to be like, she had said, those are the sacrifices you made. Let me tell you the sacrifices I've made. That felt baby face leaning, but baby face leaning could be what you said of like, how do we differentiate these two people who are on the same sides of things? But now it feels like if you're gonna put that much behind it, she just kinda is a face, and quite frankly, I kinda dig the idea of a face that has a knockout punch and is a bombshell like that. Like it would be nice if we had characters like that, but they just don't do that here, and that's what makes therapists- - 'Cause they don't work, 'cause they don't work. Not when you have simpletons like HBK booking them. Like you don't, they don't know how to do nuance. So like this is just feels like she's, she's got knockout power and all the charisma. Like they don't know how to book a baby face, except for gee whiz, how will I ever overcome the odds? They don't know how to book a baby face like that. So you can't take Lola Weiss and make her that. Like I have no idea, here's the thing, here's what I'm worried about. Somehow in the first minute and a half of the match, Roxanne's gonna do a shot block or something to Lola Weiss, and then Lola Weiss will have to sell her knee for 12 minutes, and you're gonna take away all of the stuff that makes Lola Weiss somebody we wanna watch. I don't wanna watch, I don't wanna watch Lola Weiss hobble around while Roxanne Perez works the knee. I wanna see her in there squaring up and ready to knock her block off, and Roxanne having to figure out a way to avoid that. That to me is way better, 'cause you're utilizing both of them to their strengths, as opposed to taking away the strength of Lola Weiss, which would be a different thing if we'd seen her in 25 big matches. Now there's a wrinkle, but this is like her third big match we've seen. I wanna figure out to delve more into that style, and yeah, I don't know, man. - It's also not that they are the same, but they're close enough of, you don't have an excuse not to book women's bad ass baby faces after Becky Lynch has done what she's done. Like, sorry, it's not the same MMA style, but like Becky Lynch doesn't feel like she's got a G overcoming the odds to me. Like, and some of that is just 'cause Becky Lynch is Becky Lynch, but there's a playbook there. - Yes. - Like that they could utilize and they never do. So I share your same concerns, but it was really nice to have a promo segment where while the emotion was very intense, that wasn't her saying, let me tell you about my sacrifices. When I was whatever, like she sounded like I've been that emotional before, so I appreciate that. Like, it was really nice to have a human side of somebody on the show. - Right. - So that was good. - Yeah, bad apple jam tree beard saying the Roxanne should target her tailbone. So Lola never tricks again. You know, really, really get into the real character of who Lola vice is. I'm gonna take away the thing you hold most. - Dearest. - Well, but like even look at what we're talking about, like how much that annoys us. It's like she's out there shaking her ass and she had this in her. Like this story, this real seeming story, whether you feel like the emotion was turned up or not, like is up to you. I feel like it was real. But like this story is a great story. Let her tell that. - I honestly would have preferred she used this in a more protracted long feud with Shanna Baszler. - Yes. - You think I'm all just shaking my ass? Is that what you think? Let me tell you about who I really am. You like that to me actually would work in this particular pairing. I don't think it does. - Yeah. - Because also then you could have Shanna work really heal in a match versus Lola vice taking out her knee and making sure she can't do the, I'm gonna rip out your shoulder, try doing a spinning vet fist if you've got a torn labrum. See how that works out for you. Like that to me is something you can do with Lola, but Lola vice was definitely playing heal in that match with Lola with Shanna Baszler. You know what I mean? Like you did two interesting things just at the wrong times. So. - Yeah, it does feel like a mismatch. And I feel like the intention was to differentiate them, but I think it just got way turned up, way turned up. - Tim McFall has a thing that you need to read 'cause I'm not allowed to read it 'cause it's a scrum question. So. - I love this bit so much. - Tim McFall. - I will find it too. - Let's find her to Lola and Rox then. - We have a lot of puns blessedly. Okay. (laughing) There's a few. There's a lot to McFall's, where's Tim McFall's? - Under Lola and Rox face to face. It actually got put in the correct place on the rundown. So there you go. - Oh my gosh. Sorry, my computer is being weird. I know that's a surprise. - Well, in the meantime, I'll read this. (laughing) On the meantime, I'll read this. - Kate from Python. - Who just says, "Good story, Lola." But we're keeping the title on Roxanne 'til Julia gets better, LOL. Which is kind of the thing about this as well. Like you could, yeah, anyway, go ahead. - I mean, yes and no, 'cause who knows with a wrist injury? Like what that's gonna look like. If they want Roxanne to go up, we'll see. But more importantly, this is Kate from Fightful. Alex noted that's been your thoughts on Lola Vice's performance today. - It's a tricky one, you know, because while I have no doubts, of the veracity of her emotions, the truthfulness, the truthiness of what she feels about her mother, I might have a note about whether or not you could deliver those emotions without the wailing. - Could you stand and deliver them? - You could maybe stand. Well, she was, oh, I get, yeah, you're doing a thing from a different month, but thank you, yes. - 'Cause I'm very credible. - Mm-hmm. - I just, I don't mean to heart, but also gymnastics. - Gymnastics. - Damien Kemp has brass knuckles, and he wants to give them to Miles Bourne, I guess. Look what I found, look at how I found these brass knuckles. Hey Miles, hey Miles, Miles, hey Miles. Hey Miles, hey Miles, hey Miles, hey Miles, hey Miles. Hi, Miles, I found these brass knuckles. You want to use them? And Charlie Dempsey's like, "Get those outta here." (laughing) And Damien's like, "But what? I thought you would especially like them. "I know I have sworn off all things that might be of my father." He doesn't say that, but it's weird that like, I still don't know what this story is with David Kemp, like not being liked by Charlie Dempsey, and they brought in a replacement for him and Tavion Heights, like, just, can't we, to figure out how this works with four guys before we're kicking one of them? - Yeah. - Yeah. Let's figure out how this works with four guys before we're kicking one of them out of the thing. - Well, my student here, yeah, I'm fine. (laughing) - So, rundown of what is going on in my apartment never seems so amazing to me. But, yeah, I don't feel like there should be dissension when somebody just entered the group. - Right. - Like the-- - He doesn't even have anything to do with Tavion Heights. He wasn't even, he had no lines in the scenes. It's just that Charlie Dempsey hates Damon Kemp. And Damon Kemp's like, "Hey, I found a great way "for you to win your match versus Oremenza. "Here's some rap knuckles I found." - Is it, what's that? - I'm like, you can't add the story, be like, we do things the right way against every test. Several, 100 times. - No, I don't know how that works, but no. - You guys, it was just the file box. It's okay, I'm fine. Here's what happened. I got ready to paint my studio. I was very excited. The rain came, my ceiling is sagging. I also want to repaint my bedroom. So, we're waiting on the roofer and the contractor to come fix this room. But I can't put all my furniture back yet. - No. - So, it's like, it's a lot. There's a lot that's happening. - No, you don't want the roofs shouldn't sag. - No, it's not great. - No. - So. - Hey. Chet, have you sprinkled from these little bit family? What was that crash? - It was, I'm so glad you asked. Great question. I'll do a Tony Collins going for you guys. Great question, it was a file box. Thank you so much. - Follow up, a box with files in it? - Great, great follow up question there. It is a box with files in it. Mostly important documents and it tipped over. - Okay, thank you. - You're welcome. - Could you clear, I'm sorry, could you clarify? Onto the floor onto a table of some kind. - It's a fucking dirt sheet report, it's a great follow up. (laughing) It fell from on top of one box to the floor, but it is not broken and the files remain in the file box. All right, mm. - God. - It's an uncredible piece. - I don't care that it doesn't pop anybody but us. (laughing) - The chair loves it, you guys love it. - It's only, it's only, so. - Louise likes it, that's all that matters to me. - So Eddie Thorpe is a DJ on the side and HBK figured this out and has filmed with him spinning in a local nightclub and all the people, "Hey, there was Danny Palmer who went out "for a horrible knee surgery and I guess is okay enough "to walk, but she was the one holding the iPad." So like Danny Palmer returned tonight, so that's nice, I guess. - Woo hoo! - So they're all looking at film of him, film, a video file for the ticking of the talk. Of him spinning and then in walks Lexus King was like, "Nobody likes that music." They only like poison and guns and roses and white snake. And looking at him you go, that guy looks like he'd be into a hair metal band, but also they're just decided, no, he's just, he just decided he got into a friggin' time machine from 1986 and he's way too young to be doing this. - He's way too young to be a hair metal dude, but he is totally a hair metal dude. - He is, it's so good. Every week I'm more perplexed by what Lexus King is. When you think of the vignettes he started with, with like the references to his dad and the bangles and how it wasn't gonna be his dad. And there was this whole story that they were like, "Nah, we're just gonna make him kind of a creep to women." - Yeah, but they've just, yeah. - And now he's like you kids and you're each young, turn them down. - Nobody likes those beeps and bloops. - They like the Guns N' Roses. Appetite, now you want it back in my day, we had appetite for destruction. That was a banger. - You know, it was a good car here. - There wasn't a single damn skip on that CD. Now let me tell you about CDs. Now they were disc, you used to put them in a machine and then you'd push play and then you could skip the tracks. But there wasn't a single skip on the appetite for destruction. - How about the last DK Fightful? I was wondering, your favorite track off of Appetite for destruction? - Yeah, this one might throw you for a loop here. I would like, where was that one? Mr. Brownstone. I liked all the drums in Mr. Brownstone. I liked the slash, that a really good riff on that one. But everybody likes the big radio play hits, but I liked Mr. Brownstone. - I hope you get Lexus King's number and you guys can jam out together. - Oh my God. - I don't make it like they used to anymore, you kids and your, it's that guitar hero game that popularized all those songs. - Oh my God, Luis Palito says, is that a Guns N' Roses album? I feel young. (crickets chirping) - Kate just left. - I can't work like this. You don't know it's a gun, you don't know Appetite for destruction as a Guns N' Roses album? - Wilchism says we all went to school with a person who liked music 20 to 30 years ago, LOL. Or we all went to school with a person who liked current music. - We went to school with more of those. - I mean, I'm a listener of previous generations, but he's a very specific type of listener when you combine the aesthetic with everything. - Yeah, yeah, for sure. Luis saying there was an easy shot to have filming Junior be a grunge guy because of his dad, but I didn't I guess so. - I like grunge too much to have him make it a cartoon. - No, let's do that, let's do that. Oromensa had a match versus Miles Bourne, in which Damon Kemp was yelling at a deaf guy to please take the brass knuckles from me so you can win the match. And the deaf guy was like, I don't know what you're saying. And that was basically the whole story of the match. Oromensa won with his weird rolling forward kick into the corner and he won. So he's, I'll be waiting for you, Ethan Page, when you get back and that was it. So the Miles Bourne lost because Damon Kemp tried to give him a set of brass knuckles to cheat, to get disqualified. 'Cause it wasn't like the ref wasn't, it wasn't like there was a ref bump. The ref is literally standing there watching Damon Kemp offer brass knuckles to a deaf guy by screaming at him. - Yeah, I just, again, like, if the idea is that they're the purest of us and they're trying to sow seeds of dissension within that. I just feel like with a thing like the no quarter catch crew, the adversity kind of like has to come from the opposite of that. Like it should be, it should be the clean losses, not the temptation to not lose clean for at least for a while. If you're losing so much and you're then looking for an advantage, that's a good story. But to just be like, where's the advantage immediately feels like not the best level? - Yeah, yeah, it was weird. - Will Chisholm asks, how do you think the Creed Butters will do a blood sport? I think that Julius Creed will win blood sports championship. Is there a championship of blood sport? I think Julius Creed will win that. I think that he'll impress Josh Barnett so much that Josh Barnett will just give him a title. - I think I'll just give him the promotion. - I think Brutus will also do very well, surprising. It surprised a lot of people with how good he is. - I think they'll do very, very well. - Also, they don't have, that's July 28th to go there. And I will be horribly disappointed if they do not go there as the new weapons of perk gable. - Great. - If they show up as just the guys who lose a lot on main event, what a waste. They need to show up to blood sport as guys who you believe will F your ass up. - I agree and they need to be on TV before they go there. (laughing) - That's true. That's true. Will Chisholm saying that drop kick Miles did with a very young Randy Orton, like hell, that was Kazuch Okada. - Yeah, that was really, really impressive. - He got some height on that drop kick, for sure. Yeah. Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says you have to forgive Louis some time. The Thong Song by Cisco is older than him. - Why were you like, let's make it worse? Why don't you give it? - I remember coming home for lunch from college classes and sitting down for lunch and the only thing that was on TV was MTV, because there really wasn't, you couldn't stream anything. There's nothing on demand. The best thing to watch on cable was MTV and Cisco's The Thong Song was, I believe number seven on TRL Countdown for like seven weeks in a row. - I always think of the Will Ferrell, Robert, Kool-Aid sketch with the Thong Song. - Tumla Valley says that I had Guns N' Roses single CDs, my knees hurt. - That tracks. - Relatable, relatable. Hey, here's the best video of the night is Wesley talking about how badly he needs to get the NXT North American Championship back while a shadow looms larger and larger and larger behind him. That was art. There I say cinema. - You said the word. - I did, I said the word, it's true. I said it's true, it's true. Like, Obafemi's shadow getting bigger and bigger behind Wesley, him oblivious to it as he talks about how I really need this title back. Oh, it's so good. - On a scale of one to five, this was a 4.75, 'cause no gymnastics. - Gymnastics? - I mean, gymnastics. - Right. But then Oba basically said you are only the greatest because you came before me. - I am. - He's the best. - Oh, this guy! (laughing) - And he's the best, he's the best. He's the best. - He's okay. - Yeah. And this is one of those things like moose out here talking to the dirt seats, saying Obafemi, tell your boss to call my boss and like, no, I'm sorry, 'cause we're not gonna do that unless you're willing to get booked to lose to Obafemi 'cause that man ain't losing for like the first six years of his career. - I watch ROH and then review it so I don't usually watch TNA and especially in real time. I don't need like 50 year old moose to be the guy that Obafemi writes, there's some young great talent over there. - Right, there is. - Let's do that. - Oh yeah, so team bouncy beef and gallows. I said gallows and Anderson before, excuse me. - Gallows and Anderson? - I mixed up my gals. - Gallows and Anderson could be a really fun. - Gallows and Anderson would be a pretty good, I was gonna say trio, but there's actually three guys already. - Sure, but that'd be, maybe he pulls Joe Coffey up by the bank and replaces them. - So they're brawling backstage and they're just, they're brawling so much that their match they were gonna have tonight has to be pulled because they have to be looked at by medical 'cause they're brawling so much, don't you know? - There was a lot of brawling. They're very brawling. - Yep, Brinley is sad about having lost Izzy Dame and Malik the ladies on her side, but it's like the power of positivity has ruined us. And then there's a Luke Gallows jumpsuit who just jumps out of nowhere and yells at OTM about something. - Theo Hale's older sister needs to find Theo Hale, like just do it. There's like 800 people in Chase U, at least have her older sister be one of them. She's, they're right, positivity gets you nowhere, life is a lie, so. - Yeah, check with me. - This is where we knew this was going, right? She goes, I'm gonna work out, you guys can come with me if you want. - Yeah. (laughs) - So Wendy Chu scared my daughter tonight. Yeah, my daughter. - You watched this? - My daughter came down to say good night and she was like, and I paused it. - She was in different nightmares? - And I paused it during her entrance. And she was like, that lady is creepy. Can you pause at a different time? (laughing) - Well, why? - She is creepy. - Yeah, no, yeah, you're gimmick is a success, Wendy. You've scared a seven-year-old child. - Scared the children. - So, yeah, I, apparently Kendall Gray, we figured this out last week, is like a suplex machine. I would much rather see her-- - Is that another lady, Taz? - Yeah, that I would really like to see her face, Wendy Chu. Um, as opposed to Carly Bright, the cheerleader, who, you know, can do athletic things, but also cheerleading. Cheerleading, cheerleading, cheerleading. University of Minnesota, cheerleading. - Gymnastics. - Gymnastics. - But I felt like, I feel like she got too much in. No offense to her, but I think if they did the thing that I said for two weeks in a row, that Wendy Chu seems to have picked up on, of Wendy Chu is just here to devour you, and Carly Bright has this like naivety about her. - Right. - That would have been awesome if it was just like a glorified squash, or Wendy Chu was like, I'm just gonna toy with you for five minutes, but you're gonna go off and say this was too even of a match for the launch of this character, in my opinion. - Carly Bright isn't familiar, we're not familiar with her as a person, so like we can't be like, oh no, I hope nothing bad happens to this cherub who we love so much, you know what I mean? Also, this match is happening because Carly Bright asked for it. Carly Bright, the character that you have shown us should be scared to death of Wendy Chu. - And now I feel like you're a little dumb. - Wendy Chu should demand this match, and Ava has to because she says to Carly, I'm scared of her too, so I just told her she can have whatever match she wants, I'm really sorry about that, good luck. You know what I mean? Like that would make it more interesting to me than Carly Bright saying I need to defend the honor of my tag team partner who's an actual wrestler, unlike me cheerleading. And then she gets in a bunch of offense before she loses to, it's like a weird cross-arm, across-the-face- - Very cool, very cool. - Very cool. Vicious looking. - Yeah, yeah. - Too much offense, just too much offense. Wendy Chu's incredible at making this, Wendy Chu like creature work. What an interesting, the way she moves her head in particular is just so, horror movie-ish, everything I can't watch. She's bringing it out of my television, so. - Well, there's the stuff they're doing with like extending her lower eyelid way down with white. - Yeah. - And then she comes out for the entrance with her eyes rolled back, which makes her eyes look gigantic and vacant. Really cool makeup, really great presentation, love it. Again, man, it's Wendy Chu when I trust her, but are we ever gonna get an explanation of why she is this way now? 'Cause it feels weird that she was like super happy sleepy girl, and now she's super creepy sleepy girl. And we don't get any, there's nothing, there's no threads to connect at all. I would just like to know what is up with this, you know? - Yeah, we should have gotten context for that because she should have come out, she should have chewed Carly Brightup for breakfast and then explained, that would have been a better use of TV time, I think. But we do have a paper or a PLE coming up, so hopefully we get like something there. - Yeah, Louise saying that sour grapes caused Kelly Kelly to come back from the shadows, LOL. Do you wanna explain that to the people who don't understand the reference? - So I had said that this could really work if you have this like, innocent, positive, Carly Bright character. Reminds me of Kelly Kelly to Wendy Chu being like Karma, which was a short-lived run because Karma, I think I'm pregnant if I remember correctly and had a mystery. But Karma came in during like the Divas era and it was so completely different. She was just chewing up Divas and spitting them out. But Kelly Kelly was the most all American, Elle Woods, whatever the hell. And Karma just came in and she sold the hell out of it. And I said this angle could work very similarly to that. And then Wendy Chu today had treated something to the effect of calling her like Kelly Kelly's daughter or calling her Kelly Kelly Wannabe. And Kelly Kelly said, hey, if you need backup, I'm coming out of retirement for you. But we haven't visited that trope really ever since. And I think it could be really cool if Wendy was here to like take over all of these blondes with wavy hair that have done gymnastics and gymnastics like things. - Yeah, gymnastics like creatures. Ryan Chafini says I get grumpy after a long nap too. I would accept that explanation. - And bad apple jam tree beard says, Wendy Chu got this way by collecting the seven golden orbs with red stars on them, which I believe is kind of reference to something I don't understand. - Yeah, I don't know that reference either. - There's something else I don't understand. Man, did it not seem to you like they were setting up this whole Brooks Jensen is not allowed in NXT. So he's gonna show up and do a crazy Brian Pillman in TNA angle like he's unhinged and we don't know where this guy came from and he's demanding a match and he's attacking for when he backstage and we try to get NXT on the phone and they're like, he doesn't work for us anymore. He's your problem now. Like you could have done a really cool thing with Brooks Jensen. He's calling himself Ben Buchanan and all this stuff. This was really interesting. And then they were like, well, Booker T, Booker, you and I, we know for a fact we've been involved in a lot of altercations here at ringside. We have been low to speak about that, but we do have the president of talent development. I was like, who? And they're like, Sean Michaels, is that his title? Like the head of NXT. Like, I mean, like, I don't know we got to do this weird long title for whatever he says. And then you get Sean Michaels going. So there have been a lot of distributes just here from Brooks Jensen after he and Briggs and Fallon Henley broke up. He's spiraled and we had to ask him to not show up to live events and tapings. And he has instead chosen to break the rules that we have set for him in danger in people's safety. And so we thought the best thing we should do about this is to let all of you know that he hasn't been released, that he is making all of this up and that we would like this absolute liability to people's safety to show up next week on NXT and have a sit down one on one with the general manager because we think that's a really good idea because I believe in second chances. Which is like in every possible way a worse idea than what it seemed like we were going to get which was a crazy run of Brooks Jensen interrupting TNA stuff and making that a really cool little exchange program. - I appreciate outside of the one thing that went way too far, which is way too far. - Right, right. - Outside of that, like when they put together this video package and they showed all the things he was doing on social media, it was like this is really good stuff. Like he did a really good job with all of this. And I was glad that they actually did this video recap despite it not including gymnastics. I thought it was pretty good because so much of the stuff was live disruptive of the go home segment from last week. Like it wasn't like he was always the focus 'cause he was always the disruptor. So I was glad they did this video package but it's all together. The, I guess he's not the head of HR 'cause this is just a really stupid idea. Like to say that the way that you're addressing this is a public sit down with the guy who has been breaking rule after rule after rule after rule after rule that you've set out for him. After they said he was on like a mandated mental health break. It's just a couple of bridges too far for me of like the way, do a cool thing backstage where it's filmed through security footage that we see later to explain his absence or whatever. Like the idea that they're just gonna have like a sit down interview. And if Shawn Michaels doesn't take a bump I'm gonna be really bummed. Like Brooks Jensen should beat the dog shit out of him. But like this idea is a good idea. The framework that they wrapped it in and the character work that's been good. The framework that they wrapped it in for the upcoming weeks just seems kind of like the worst case. I wanna say worst case scenario 'cause it sounds so like damning but it's the least believable or exciting payoff. And I think the DNA thing would have been really cool. I'm not gonna assume anything about inter-promotional relationships and the complexities of that. But even if he was coming back to NXT he should just break back onto NXT, right? - Right, which he's been trying to do and they've thwarted him and they're like, you know what, we have asked you not to show up. You keep showing up. We have you forcibly removed from the property by security. So what we thought was best to do was to extend you a formal invitation to show up. - Kind of giving them. - On television. - On live television. - On live television. - Crazy. - To talk to the general manager. - Yeah, let's put other performers, the audience and Shawn Michaels in danger instead of like, yeah, so much. - Treebeard, Jim Treebeard says, for some reason I thought they were setting up a Brooks Jensen versus Booker team match 'cause Brooks kept going to the desk. Yeah, but he wasn't yelling at Booker. He was yelling at Vic Joseph who does not take bumps. So that is all weird. - He takes bumps every Tuesday on commentary just like listening to Booker, but. - He does. Luis clarifying his problem was that HBK saying that Brooks Jensen was still under contract despite Ben Buchanan saying his contract had recently expired completely. He'd recently expired completely undermined the angle. What are we doing? Because that's not the angle anymore. I think maybe the angle was that he was going to go to TNA and then they decided to do this, whatever they're doing with Charlie Dempsey and Miles Bourne, spoiler alert. They taped that last week and that's gonna show up on TV soon which is a different, entirely different thing, but it's not, I don't know. - So. - This is Kate from Fightful. Is this guy into a contract or what? - Well, I believe in second chances. So what we've decided to do is to bring him out and we've hired, we've gotten a birthday cake and we've hired a clown, we've gotten a bouncy house and we've decided we're just gonna, you know, try and make him feel secure and safe here because I believe in second chances. Also, we're just gonna go ahead and give him the NXT championship because I believe in second chances. - Isn't it like his eighth chance, though? - But I believe in second ones, so. - Can I come to hang out in the bounce house? Okay, sounds fun. - Yeah, no, it's available for everybody. It's like you have to do that weird thing where you show up at a distant parking lot and then you get on a bus and they drive you here with 300 other people who smell like wrestling fans in Florida, in the heat in Florida. - Fantastic, I'll be there straight away. - A bouncy castle? Is Javon Evans gonna be there? - No, Team bouncy beef is gonna be there. The castle is made out of meat. - It's a meat castle. - It's a meat castle, a bouncy meat castle. - It's about bouncing meat castle. - Best show ever. - Next Tuesday will be one you don't wanna miss guys 'cause I know however they do this next week with Brooks Jensen, it's going to be awful. And I'm going to not have, I'm gonna have a lot of things to say about it. So. Somebody in the thing was like, "Well, I don't understand, who is it gonna be feuding with out of this?" The commentary, security, HBK? No, the answer is whoever interrupts his segment with Ava next week. - No. - I don't know who that is, but someone's definitely interrupting his segment next week. I mean, honestly, the real answer should be Briggs, but they already had a match against each other. And I don't know if like a feud makes a lot of sense, but like, it should be like Briggs who like, "Dude, I don't know what's your problem is." Like come back to us, you're being crazy. - What's going on? - I'm not crazy, you're crazy. The reason I am crazy is 'cause you abandoned me. Something like that, I don't know. - I think West is king for go out and go. - Hmm. - Papa, and then just go away. - Oh, that'd be good. - Well, it's interesting to hear about that. - That would be good. Jasmine Nick's defeated Carmen Petrovich via a paylay kick because JC Jane was out there doing stuff. That's all you need to know about this. - I did not appreciate that she had eyes in the back of her head to see JC Jane. 'Cause it was like clever that she saw she was there, but then she was not at all clever with the fact that she turned around and said, "Hey, like, Jasmine Nick's with several consonants. Look pretty good at this." - She's going to get better and that's nice, but yeah. So the other thing about that comes out of this is that Carmen Petrovich goes to Ava's office and is like, "I don't care what you gotta do. I don't care if I gotta face them two-on-one. I need to get revenge on JC Jane and Jasmine Nick except tonight." It's like, well, it's interesting you say that 'cause I was just texting with your friend and they've agreed to come and help you and back you up. And Carmen is just like, "Nettie, Nettie's here." It's like, "Well, she technically, I guess, is under contract still." But, and no, it's Ariana Venti who comes in and is like, "Since we're both from Toronto," she says it the wrong way. I didn't say it the wrong way. She says it the wrong way. I obviously would say it like Toronto, Toronto. But, she says, "Since we're both from Toronto, now we're gonna be on the pre-show for Heatwave. We're gonna have our tag team match versus JC Jane and Jasmine Nick's." - Her physical movements cracked me up like the way she came into frame on this was so good. And her posture, she's aces at the character department. - Oh, she really is. - She really is. Again, let Piper Niven do amazing single stuff, Chelsea Green and that's it, man. Chelsea Green and Ariana Venti, they're, Chelsea is the worker of the two of them. But they, man, if you actually had a real, honest to God women's tag division, they would be absolute magic within it. - So much fun. - Yeah. - So much fun. Yeah. - Axiom and Nathan are gonna break up after they lose the tag team titles because Rich Holland sheets to help chase you win them. That's a thing we're doing for just, we're just doing it because Nathan Fraser has to focus on his spot in the speed tournament so he can possibly win a belt. He's not allowed to carry on television. - I genuinely laughed out loud that the first speed character reference that we got was on the next team. That is what's gonna happen. I will be so happy for Duke Hudson and so sad for what it's involved in. - Yeah, but he will not focus on this thing until after he has his already taped match with Xavier Woods. - Yes. - I wish they would, like, I have to focus on this match I taped last week. - Well, we can't do that. - I know, but it's so, like, what, I think it's absolutely ridiculous of them to drop an episode of speed at noon Eastern on a Thursday or whatever it is and be like, this is happening live. No, it's not. It's just not happening live. So like, we should, you should not have to have your characters on TV try and make up a story about how they got a focus on their match that they taped last week. - Could you imagine having like a 9 a.m. call time for a three minutes you can match? - It's a good thing that, not a limited vision. They have that, all that time in the makeup chair, they're gonna be there like five in the morning. - Maybe there's like 7 a.m., yep. - All right. So we got our Fatal Four Way vignettes, which are all fine. You know what I mean? It's whatever. The vignettes are good. They don't tell me anything about the characters I don't already know. So they're well done, but like, you know, they're just kind of superfluous. It's a, it's very go homey as you like to put it. - It is. It's the go homey, a couple things of note. If you're doing a four person contract, I think it cannot look like a Pamela on scene. - Well, now the vignettes are different than the signing. The vignettes are one thing. They were well done spaced out nicely, whatever, good. Now the contract signing, we got a triple jobber entrance. For a contract signing, which you don't normally get with these. Usually they treat everybody who's in the match with equal weight, but not this time. - Particularly a world title match. - They were playing Trick Williams' entrance music and then they showed a shot of the ring and all three other guys sitting at two different tables waiting for it to start. And yeah, it did look like a Comic-Con panel with it. (laughing) It looked like a Comic-Con panel with a big wrestling belt in the middle of it. - Yeah. - And then this segment is just, it's, at one point, it looked like Ethan Page was gonna kiss Trick Williams, which would have turned the spice factor on this episode, on this thing all the way up to a two out of zero, which was before like-- - They never kissed. - They never kissed. They should kiss. - They just kissed. You're right there. - Tony Storm and Mina, they did it. It was awesome. - They did. Give something to us. - Yeah, give some, come on. - They did it and it was twice. Ethan Page really did it twice, super face to face. Just smooch him, he's right there. He's attractive fella. - Yeah. - Give him a kiss. - This was very long for how much was, it was a go home segment. It was very long and not a lot was said. - Right. - The only thing that I have like a nitpick nitpick with, it's not even a nitpick, it would just feels like a missed opportunity. Ethan Page was great doing the thing that he always does, which was like connecting the dots. Sean Spears did his thing and when he kept referencing the experience and Jevon Evans just jumped in and was like, "Man, enough of that shit." Like, I'm in the same match that you are basically-- - Right. - Said, "How much experience do you have holding the NXT title?" And Sean Spears had to retort. And then he said like, "I'm gonna win it and then you're gonna get showed up by a 20 year old with no experience." I wish he, just wishing it'd gone for, that I will have had more experience holding that NXT title than you did at 20 years old. Like it was right there. Like just, "Oh, going for the kill on that." A lot of leading about Toronto and this from Sean Spears. Back in Toronto, where I'm also from, it's not the state, but him, they did at least justify the weird programming that they've had of late of having pinch of on Evans, having pin trick Williams, like they at least built it upon the booking that got them there, which they don't always do, so I will take that much. - Well, yeah, I mean, like we have two guys who aren't even the champion, being able to be like, "I pinned you really recently. "Why are you in this match again?" 'Cause you won a battle royal that I wasn't even eliminated from. Like you call him to question all of the stuff. Like when you have them, they're able to tell the truth and an impartial viewer goes, "Yeah, why is that guy in the match?" And Miss makes your booking look dumb. I mean, and I'm trying to be like, that, that, oh, "Heaven's forfend." Jevon Evans believes that he will win the title match on Sunday. And then Sean Spears is like, "Hey, hey there, trick Williams, "but you don't like that. "This kid says he's gonna win the title match "that we're all in." Oh, it's gotta not sit well with you there, champ. Like if everyone just comes out and says this, "Hi, I'm Ethan Page. "I believe that I will win the fatal four-way." Sean Spears says, "Hello, I'm Sean Spears. "I believe that I will win the fatal four-way." Jevon Evans says, "Hello, I'm Jevon Evans. "I will win the fatal four-way." Trick Williams says, "I'm the champion. "I believe I will retain." And then just pick two guys at random to put through a table. It would be a lot more efficient, honestly. (phone ringing) - Not quite sure what the wide six Dr. Seuss slash version was jumping up there. (laughs) But, just, just perplexed by what that was. - Don't even, don't, don't, don't, just, just, no, just, no, sell it and we'll move on. - I'm okay with that. - Jim MacFowl says, "Hello, SGS fam. "Proud, Corey, crybaby here. "I thought Lola was real good tonight, "but damn, Jevon was amazing. "Yup, classed everyone in the mic in that final second. "By a lot, this kid is a star. "He's very, very good on the mic for this, for this young. "For sure." - Yeah, he could have slowed down like a little bit, but overall he was great. - Right, yeah. - He was really great. - He was. Yeah, just waiting for him to, there he is. - Hello. - Anything, I think we can help you, okay, no. - Bad apple jam tree beard saying, "Who has the better bedding line "of doing a sharpshooter at heatwave? "All you go, Ethan Page or Shawn Michaels?" - I'm sorry, I was distracted. - It's probably Ethan Page. Probably Ethan Page, for sure. - Probably Ethan Page. - Probably, I would say, more likely to do that. - Is this Sean Ross app like creature and can hand us a VHS tape at any point? Like I'm kinda confused about what's going on here. - J.W. Pringle says, "Hey, amazing Alex. "Kill a Kate, Papa Paul, Elizabeth, sisters, "Louise!" and all this SGS. What did I miss the last few weeks, not much? Well, wait, I got the last name nod for Papa, "Be still my heart." - Yeah, I'll do J.W. Elizabeth, that's very nice. That apple jam tree beard says, "Oh wait, we'll do it, we'll do that later." And Wilkesham says, "My wife got our daughter "listening to Backstreet Boys. "I don't have the heart to tell her "they haven't been together for like 25 years." - Yeah, they might do a reunion gimmick though. Everybody stays. - They were reunited for that weird fabric softener commercial. - They did reunite for that weird fabric softener commercial. Speaking of weird, keep getting disrupted. This broadcast kinda creeped me out, kinda like a spooky takeover of our show. - Chris Pereira says, "It's Toronto, "Trono, or Toronto." With it with like a little shh at the beginning. You gotta need y'all to get it right. - I'm really sorry, Chris Pereira, that we're not doing it exactly the way you want, you know? - I, it's not my bag, that's your bag. - Mia Yim's face went splat. - Mia Yim's face did go splat today. - Wilkesham saying that that dive spot that Mia Yim took, damn, Zulman Paul on a show. They really did, they really did. Really good stuff, really good stuff. - Extremely fancy cone head over here. - Man, I wish someone like F.A. would kick this guy's ass. I don't know what he's doing with that thing. - I honestly don't know. Okay, Tim McCfall says that creepy guy keeps popping up, needs Mia Yim to beat his ass. - I would love for Mia Yim to beat his ass. - Honestly, it's what we all need, what we all need. - It's, we could broke a ropey's. - That's true, let's see here. - Well, all we have left is the fun stuff and then we just keep getting the weird guy messing it up. So, I don't know if I wanna, we just wanna vamp until he comes back with another mask or a hat or a wig. All right, well, I don't wanna get interrupted 'cause we get on the flow, we get in the whole flow here and I don't wanna like happen. - Not saying anything. - All right, okay. - We've got other bits to do and he's like, "You gotta be off in two hours." - I know, we would be out in time but he's just, anyway. What's in a kernel photo says, "Extra, extra, Brunson, read all about it." This is journalism puns. - Very good. - Chris Pereira says, "The Metaphorth Estate." - I don't know what's going on on our extremely serious and normal review show. - Kim Gray says, "It's a news day, yes it is." - That's very good. - Chris Pereira says, "Editorial Kingston." - Editorial Kingston is great. - On a, I miss that dude. - Man, do I miss that dude. - Chris Pereira says, "Freedom of the Military Press." - Good, very good. - Chris Pereira says, "Bulletin Club." Just Ricardo says, "Periodical Saturn." "Periodical Saturn." - That's very good, underrated wrestler and an underrated pun. - Alpha Bill says, "Are we watching rejected white vignettes?" - Honestly, I don't know what any of this is. I have chosen not to... - Hold on. What's, sorry, someone's approaching me with a box. - A box, yeah. - What's in the box? - What is... - Do you have a VHS tape that you could use as a... - I had to send it out to the truck, sorry. - Good. - We'll reveal an interview next time. - Lieutenant Colonel Foto says, "Front Ethan Page Story." - Very nice, very nice. - "Shytown Spurs" says, "All the President's Rens and Claire." Just Ricardo says, "Hangman Back Page." - Very good. - Sefa says, "The Royal Scrumble." "Dirt sheet Dominick Mysterio." Tom of Valley says, "Wyatt Page Six." Tom Matthew Hook says, "Shawn Reporter Scoops." S-R-S. - Oh, yeah. - "Tekno Reporter Team 2000." (laughing) - Chris Perez says, "Lible Lock." - Very nice. - "Lible Lock," but the "Lible Lock." - "Lible Lock" is very good. - "Love Froak" says, "The Nation of Publication." - That's very good. - And "Bam, Bam, Bloggalo." - I love that we have our locked-in ones. - Mm-hmm. - "Alpha Bill" says, "Tekno Tabloid Team 2000." - Very nice. - "Edger Clever Teigen Knoxpund" says, "Teigen Anoximus Source." - Very good. Gotta keep him anoximus. - Anoximus. "Shytown Spurs" says, "Freedom of the Preston Vance." Chris Perez says, "Op Edge." (laughing) ♪ On this day ♪ (laughing) - "Insta Clementeigen Knoxpund" says, "Taganzo Journalism Knox." - Tamla Valley says, "Editor Guerrero." (laughing) - Chris Perez says, "Gorilla Press Release." - Very nice. - "Shytown Spurs" says, "Dear Abaddon." - "Dear Abaddon." - "Dear Abaddon." - "Lithina Kirtlefoto" says, "Investigate Live Journalism." - Very good. - "Someone does need to find out why she's obsessed with Dominic. We need to investigate Live Journalism." - It's true. - "Just Ricardo" says, "We want tabloids." (clapping) "We want tabloids." (clapping) - "Meet Norma" says, "Politzer L-Zero Miedo." (laughing) - "Ray Phoenix Sun-Times." (laughing) - Very good. - "Bad Apple Jam Treebeard" says, "WMC, Weapon of Mass Communication." - Very nice. - "Tekno Television 2000." Zach Social Jr. Bam Bam Broadcasting. "Bad Apple Jam Treebeard" says, "TMDK, The Media Don't Kneel." (laughing) - Ah, what? (laughing) "Bad Down Spurs" says, "Print Nana." - That's really good. I like for now. - Chris Pereira says, "M-S-N-B-C-Zaro." "M-S-N-B-C-Zaro." "Bad Apple Jam Treebeard" says, "Face Booker T." - Very good. - "Instigrato." - Oh, "Greato." - E-N-R says, "Got a bunch of 'em back-to-back-to-back." - "Taboloid Team 2000." "Saterical Saber Jr." Bam Bam Blogalo. "Speedball Mike Byline." (laughing) "Penta Libel-Saro-Miedo." "Rady Obafemi." It's "Strimming." (laughing) "Bron Muckraker." (laughing) "Defamation X." "Ruby Soho Tribune." - Very good. - "Meet Normous" says, "Bron Brickking News." Ring Post Gazette. Magazine Dupree. Type writer, thunder driver. Retraction Andretti. - Very nice. - "Meet the Gorilla Press." - Very good. - "Apollo News." (laughing) DNC Digital says, "Russian Leg Sweeps." Well, Russian Leg Sweeps Week. - "Fax Moon." "Be Rolling Thunder." "C.M. Junk It." "Sendin' more at 11." (laughing) "Bobra Walters." (laughing) "Ms.TV Guide." "The People's Magazine." "Vanity Flair." - Very good. - "Meet Normous" says, "Technical Difficulties Team 2000." "USA New Day." "Wall Street Profits." "Wall Street Profits Journal." "AR Fox News." "Book Tour of the Islands." "Meet the Gorilla Press." "Prints Nana." (laughing) "Bad Apple Jim Treebeard" says, "Say his name and he appears Joe Headliner." - He is Joe Headliner, these days. - And a blast from the past. An old newsman from the '80s and '90s. From Alpha Bill. - Braun Brokakaw. (laughing) - We have some scrum questions, but I guess you're the ones who have, you have to read these. I can't read them. - We do have a question sent in via Louise from Fightful. Who wants to know why you hate Darby Allen? Thanks so much. - I would just refer you back to the many statements I've made on the subject and say no comment. - Oh my God, you're already better at this than pretty much everybody else. (laughing) Just say no comment. JW Pringle from the Elizabeth family says, "Who is that masked man "and how many pots has he smoking?" - I'm assuming you're referring to the man who was here earlier. I cannot speak to that, to the nature of his visits, or what he's done, mainly because he is, in fact, my employer and I would like to remain employed at this particular website. - That's a good comment. Another question from JW Pringle to the Elizabeth family, Reese's Cuts or Snickers? Reese's Cuts. - Yeah, can you put a Snickers in a Reese's cup? That would be neat. - That'd be great, I'd like to add a lot. - Meet Normus from Meet Castle, Oba Media Update. He's got a big ol' shadow. We learned that. - Yeah, he's very, he's very meaty. He's the meatiest man. - Let's see what else we got here. - Two electric mayhem from the Henson Gazette. This is from Pop-up Halowski. What inning, chapter, period, quarter are we in? Just like, as a society, I guess. - Well, back in my day, you went to the ball game and you could get your cracker jack for a nickel and you'd walk in and you'd sit there and everybody wore a suit and you'd sit and you'd watch it, you'd wave a pennant. There were all day games 'cause they didn't have lights on at the time. So nobody there, you couldn't watch a game at night. You had to go during the day, which was hard if you worked the job, but you had to go to school. But me and the boys, we'd cut class and we'd go down the old ball field. I forget what city I grew up in. Anyway, so we would watch the old, we'd watch old spinly legs, spinly legs Kowalski who played shortstop and he had those long, spinly legs, you know, but very short torso, it was mostly just head, neck, legs. There was not much between that, but he had arms. Of course, in nature of playing shortstop, you'd be quiet. So I've been to answer your question. I don't know, bottom of the fifth. - I wish Jeremy had to transcribe that. (laughing) LePonky vice with a great question. Maybe gymnastics can be our forever. - Ooh, I like that. I like that. I like that. - I think it's possible. - Pieces from the internet question for Kate for what to wrestle was just how, was asking Zach Saber Jr. a question at the scrum, a delightful. That match with Orange Cassidy was phenomenal. I got a huge scoop that Z.S.J. and Danielson III is gonna be at the North Pole. And he called Danielson a pervert. So that got Jeremy a headline, I'm sure. - Ooh, that's good. - So it was awesome. He's great, heard only good things about interactions with him. But yeah, it was awesome. I think it's to ask my favorite wrestler of the past year and a half or so, a question for sure. This is regarding the ribs. This comes from J.W. Pringle. I feel weird asking this because there is a familial relationship between J.W. Pringle and I, but have you ever tried a McRib? - No, it seems that whenever the McRib is back, I am taking a hiatus from McDonald's, simply at that time, convincing myself that I should stop eating fast food, which never takes for very long. But usually when I'm doing that, that's when the McRib is there. And also ribs are not my favorite, especially when they're not actually attached to any kind of rib. And they're just a gelatinous ooze in a meat shape. - Just rubbing it in ricochet's face that you don't even want ribs. - None. - Me normal said that his body never rejects ribs, nor is he ever ribless, which that makes sense. - True, true. Yeah, good. - M.D. Cyclo, Chris from "Psycho News" thing. Gotta ask, we've been seeing for the past few months, main roster superstar simultaneously appearing in the NXT and the main roster TV. Gotta ask, what are you doing to do? What are you going to do to abolish the filibuster of the main roster talent, not picking a lane? - I'm glad you asked this question. It is the centerpiece of my campaign. Too long. There's been a silent insidious force within our society, telling everyone that they can just appear on any show willy nilly without regard for character or motivation or storyline. And frankly, I think it's time to put it into that. So if I am elected, I fully intend to throw my entire support around making the damn brand split stick. I'm sorry to use that kind of language, but that is just how keyed up I am about this particular issue. Thank you. - One last one from Kate at Fightful here. Have you gymnastics? - Gymnastics. - Okay, that's gonna be a wrap on the scrum portion for today, but we do encourage you to stick around. We do have jukeboxes that we are going to try and fly through right now. - Yeah, bad apple jam tree beard says vaults or Cronkite. - Very good, very good. - Alpha Bill asking the real questions. There's Tony Deiriboff of Wrestling Solutions Tony the top, I would think, for sure. - I don't want to get into what other promotions are doing. I'm trying to stay focused on what we have going here on several graphs. - Right, before we get into jukeboxes, I wanted to show this off. This is the new logo, it will be the logo forever. This is from Lieutenant Cardinal Foto, who made this. It is the new logo now. It's a work of art, it belongs to the new logo. It's a work of art, it belongs to the fucking Louvre. And I want to wallpaper my house with it. It's the best thing that's ever been done by humankind. And I want it to adorn. This should be just, when you open up Fightful.com, it should just be, the landing page should be this. - This. - And you can't navigate away from it for like 15 to 20 seconds. Everyone should just look at this. It should just be an interstitial to sit in there. - Bad Apple Jam Treebeard says that new Graps logo, is it just me or does Purple Alex and Green Kate make them look like the children of Grimace and the Grinch? No, it makes us look amazing. Look at us, we look fantastic. - And also like it's called Tower Graps. Those are two inspired choices, to be honest. - Kid Yara asking, are we gonna show the graphic of the esteemed Lieutenant Foto made? I gotta see Kate's reaction, she hasn't seen it yet. She actually saw it before I did. I did. I did. I love it, it's amazing. - It's the best. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened. - I'm trying to make my turn. - JW Pringle says, "Put it on a shirt for reals." I agree. I agree. - We got some things to work out. The background might have to be sacrifice. Perhaps the background looks more like this background, but just with the updated me. - Though, a Hawaiian shirt, grape sprint, I'm in. - Mm, that would be good, that would be really good. Yeah. Okay, let's do some, here we go. Linder sings, "My Kink is Karma" by Chappell Rowan, is that Chappell Rowan? I'm not really sure. Again, not- - Chappell Rowan. - Okay. - Hello. - Oh, hello. - "My Kink is Karma." In that I really did it, enjoy her run in WWE. - Sure. - And in TNA, so "My Kink" was that as well. - She was great, I mean- - So here we go. - Many references. - We broke up on a Tuesday, kicked me out with the rent paid, ruined my credit, stole my Judas static. Who knew that we'd let it get this bad with an ending? It's comical, bridges your burn. If Karma's real, hope it's your turn. I heard it from Katie. You're losing it lately. Move back with your parents and take girls who are 18, you can't do that. You can't do that. It's like a, that's a buddy Murphy situation over there. I don't want that at all. Remember that from the pandemic, it was awful. - I'm too. - It's hot when you have a meltdown and in the front of your house and you're getting kicked out, it's hot when you're drinking downtown and you're getting called out 'cause you're running your mouth. Oh, good. And it's coming around. Yeah, it's coming around. Yeah, it's coming around. Oh God, oh God. People say, I'm jealous, but my kink is watching. You ruin your life. You're losing your mind. You're dying your hair. People say, I'm jealous, but my kink is watching you crashing your car. You break in your heart. You thinking I care. People think I'm crazy, but my kink is Karma. Thank you very much. - That's beautiful. Feeling drapey says happy fuck Goldberg day to all who observe it's Brett Hart's birthday. Can we get Ludwig Kaiser performing tub thumping as a way of wishing him a quick recovery from his dusted ribs? ♪ I get knocked down ♪ ♪ But I get up again ♪ ♪ You're never ♪ ♪ Can't keep me down ♪ And it repeats several times. ♪ I drink a whiskey drink ♪ ♪ I drink a vodka drink ♪ ♪ I drink a-a-a-a-a drink ♪ ♪ I drink a cider drink ♪ ♪ I sing the songs that remind me ♪ ♪ Of the good times ♪ ♪ We sing the songs ♪ ♪ That remind me of the better times ♪ ♪ Old Danny Boy ♪ ♪ Old Danny Boy ♪ Thank you. Okay, so I got that one, got that one, here we go. Bad apple jam tree beard says, since Alex is basically our Will Sasso, does he have a macho man Randy Savage? If he does, can he do the cream of the crop promo? Okay, so I don't think I do have a Randy macho man savage. - Oh yeah, you do, come on, everybody's done. - I mean, it's not one, listen. I take pride in the mimicry that I do on screen, here, and I would rather work on it and do it at a different time, but there is somebody else that I do that is from the same era of that time period in WWF. So maybe I'm not sure if he still listens to the show and he could break in via satellite or he could only hope. - I'm talking about all the way to the top, yeah, McMahon, Oakland, who was I talking to at this time? I'm not really sure, unjustifiably in a position that I'd rather not be in, McMahon, monsoon, the cream of rice at the top, oh yeah. Macho Madness got a lot more to offer than President Jack Tunney thinks I got, yeah. And let me tell you something right now, the card stacked against the Macho Man Randy Savage and WrestleMania III, let me say it, yeah, let me say it out loud. Let me point to the president of the world wrestling federation, the Macho Man Randy Savage is not happy with your design, yeah. I am the cream of the world wrestling federation and there's no doubt about it. Yeah, you mean Gene Oakland, also you, McMahon, also you, monsoon, you know that I'm the cream of the crop. Monsoon. Feels kind of weird to hear somebody other than Randy Savage say, oh yeah, to be honest. Oh, yup. Oh, hold on. Oh yeah, but it's definitely what just the body of Ventura says, 100%. Yeah, that's true, he does say that. Okay, here we go. We only have two left and neither of them are Rocky Rainbow and I'm really, I'm sorry about that. Oh no. It's no longer Pride Month, so. Oh sure. Here we go. Hello, it's me. Ian R says, dusty things, the theme from Full House. Here we go. Here we go. Whatever happened to predictability? The milk man, the paper boy, the evening TV daddy, how did I get delivered here? Somebody tell me, please, this old world confusing me. Cloud is mean as you've ever seen. And you're a bird who knows your tune. Then a little voice inside you whispers, Kim, don't tell your dream so soon, baby. Everywhere you look, everywhere you go, there's a heart. There's a heart. I had to hold on to, baby. Everywhere you look, everywhere you go, there's a face. Or somebody who needs you, everywhere you look. When you're lost out there and you're all alone, baby. A lot is waiting to carry your home sugar. Yeah, that's right. Everywhere you look, everywhere you look, sugar you're bopping the body out. That was beautiful. Did you do that at karaoke, dusty? I was a big fan of the, of the, of the TGIF back in the day. Sure. I memorized all the songs. Finally, meet Norma says, Dusty Rhodes sings Judas because I'm a sicko. You would have to be to make me sing this terrible song by this, this fella. You are beautiful on the inside. You are innocent, innocent, personified. And I will drag you down, shell you out, baby. Run away. I'm cold like December snow. I've carved out this soul made of stone. I will drag you down, shell you out. Embrace by the darkness. I'm losing the light, baby. I encircle by demons, I sight. That's hard times. What have I become? Now that I betrayed everyone I've ever loved. Puts them all away. They have been a slave to the Judas in my mind. Is there something left of me to save in the wreckage of my life? I become, I become, I become, I become. I become, I become, I become. I become, I become, I do this Judas in. Judas in my mind, daddy. I become, I become, I become, I become, I become, I become. Baby, Judas in Judas in my mind. - That was beautiful. - Thank you. - You're welcome. Chad loves it. All right, well, no, there's, if there, apparently there is, there's a Braun, Braun's throwman super chat. We'll do that first next week. We'll do that first next week 'cause we're already over time, daddy. That we are over hard times. And we are ready to go. We got to get out of here. So I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna say, do I say toodles or do you say toodles? - I say toodles, but also to say that concludes our scrum for the evening. We thank everybody for participating, including the ghost of Dusty Road and our karaoke hour. - That's right. - Deep pool, gabagove. - Toodles. - Bye-bye, daddy. - Baby. - Hey, your job. Do you ever have to deal with a nose roller? How about a snub bully? Well, if you're installing a new conveyor belt system, dealing with the different components can sound like you're speaking a foreign language. Luckily, you've got a team ready to help. Granger's technical product specialists are fluent in maintenance, repair, and operations. So whenever you wanna talk shop, just reach out. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. Granger, for the ones who get it done. [MUSIC PLAYING]