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It's too warm for me personally, which makes me a proper British person, the hey-ho. That makes lots of people happy, and they're happy this makes me happy. So we're all good. We're all good. Well, we're going to just get straight into it, Simon. And the first question I have for you is when I talk to Jack Moody, I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he started his wrestling career around same age you did. And he talked about how, from the get-go, it was like he was a sponge of knowledge. He wanted to get everything in as fast as possible. And he put a fire under him to get learned quicker, faster than other people would, because age isn't on the side. Do you feel the same way kind of feeling where like every single thing that you take in is just like, it's on overdrive almost because of your late start? Yeah, I think so. I think that's a fair way to look at it. And I think that's a cool way to look at it as well. You know, I think there is a benefit that you always want to get into things as young as possible, right? The best proverb I've ever heard was like, the best time to do anything was 10 years ago or right now. Well, can't go back in time. So I may as well do it right now. But yeah, it's a great motivator because especially in wrestling, I mean, it kind of works both ways in wrestling because it is a young man's game. But at the same time, if you can establish yourself, you can go forever, right? You can be 64 years old and still having matches. Should you build up the right capital in your character and your worth? But yeah, and I was well aware that it was twofold to me. It was absolutely that feeling. Let's get some stuff done. But there was also the other side, which was, let's just get it done. Let's just do it. And wherever it goes is where it goes. I just didn't want to be, you know, an 80 year old man sat on my couch and be like, why? Why ironically, why didn't you try to, you know, why don't you just see where it could go? Now that mentality goes right out of the window. So you start having matches because then you want to be in the main event of WrestleMania straight away. But I can be sad about, I'm going to wreck a big, isn't exclusive for you. It's very unlikely I will ever main event WrestleMania. But I can be sad about that. But at least I won't regret not trying, right? And I think that is a, that's a really important term. And that's what I tell everyone. Everyone always says to me, you know, like, what's the one piece of advice you could give me about getting into wrestling? It's like, just don't regret it. And if that means doing one step, one session and then realizing it's not for me and going to do something else, that's equally as important. So even if you cross it off your list, I don't want to do it. That's great. Because you don't have to worry about it anymore. So yeah. But I think he's absolutely correct. Yeah. Like you can't stand on ceremony here, Mr. Wayne. We got to get stuff done because by the nature, it's already kicked my ass. Look, I got no hair. So I don't need other stuff to go as well. Yeah. And just like with certain late, was there any, was there any moments where early on in your training that you kind of felt like this might not be for me. There's a bit doubt that crap didn't. And maybe, maybe maybe maybe just a bit of imposter syndrome that just it can grip you from anywhere. But did you ever experience that? And if you did, how did you kind of push through it? Well, I live with imposter syndrome every single day. Let's not pretend otherwise. Like I'm a walking bucket of imposter syndrome. But no. So actually, I mean, it's an odd answer because it's yes and no. This time, no, but it's actually the third time I tried twice before to become a wrestler. And yeah, both times it was too much for me and mostly because there was a lot of, I can't do it. I can't. This isn't me. I made a mistake. Well, I mean, they were extenuating circumstances to that as well, but this time it was very much I'm having a match. I don't care if I hate the whole procedure. I don't care if I'm beaten up. I don't care if I'm I don't care what it is. I'm having a match just to say I had a match. And because I walked into it with that mindset, it wasn't even really about, are you good at this? Are you bad at this? Should you be doing it? It was like, that's not the goal. The goal is to have a match. Have you had a match? Nope. Well, you better keep going. But you know, you go back to the first two times that I tried and yeah, you're absolutely all of what I walked away twice. I mean, that's what I did. I just decided it wasn't for me, but you know, is that feeling in your stomach where all of a sudden a few months partying? Well, maybe it was for me. And then if you still got that, you haven't, you know, you haven't shut it off. You haven't shut it off properly. But no, absolutely man. I mean, everything I do in my life at any time a cool opportunity comes by before I walk into a room, I'll absolutely be standing or sitting going, what the hell? They're going to walk in there and they go, that's the wrong bald guy. What do you mean, you? We're a different bald guy. So, but I think that's good in a way. It's humbling and it's, it gives you that feeling of being in school again, like that kind of fear of just the world. And they don't get me wrong. There's no getting a bit to that as well. But I find it overwhelmed. We don't want to be a positive for sure. And we, we, how your career has gone so far? You've already been in like for six years in the, in the industry of wrestling. You have come across and been in the ring with some of the best wrestlers in the world. Has there ever been a time where you've been booked in a match where you've kind of been like, maybe that might be a little soon, but I'm going to give it my all anywhere. I mean, I mean, that probably has happened. I mean, the only one I can think of top of my head, it didn't really happen like that just because it was a very WWE book show, but I was down in UPW where they, they booked me as a heel, bless their hearts. They, they, they, they, they saw the evil in me and they let me run wild with it. But yeah, I was in, I was in the middle of the ring and obviously we knew this was going to happen, but until it happened, you know, you know, you can't really process it. And I was being, I literally was a cage match. I'd run, I laid waste to everybody. I had a bunch of, again, it's probably, it's like the end of WrestleMania 40, right? Just nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. When James Storm came out to, to save the day, and I did have a moment where I'm there going, you know, FU James Storm, you piece of, you piece of crap. And I'm like, why am I getting at DNA, DNA is James Storm. Who is, is another guy's done everything, right? I mean, I know his NXT didn't last long, but he still got there and all he was going to do was super kick me right in the face. And I remember thinking Simon, I've seen him super kick a lot of people. If this super kit looks bad, ain't nothing to do with James Storm. And I remember he hit me with it and I went down. I was like, I thought I screwed up because surprise, surprise, I didn't feel anything and you watch it back. And it's the most glorious super kit you've ever seen in your life because he was a super professional. Yeah, now I remember that for sure. And I mean, to be honest, dude, it happened during my debut. You know, I was very lucky to debut in Defire, which was essentially WCPW. They changed the name for a bunch of, you know, bureaucratic nonsense we don't need to get into. But, you know, the first person I closed lines was Mark Caskins, who by that point was a world, you know, he was in there, Doug Williams was in there, Chris Brooks was in there. Let me other people. I'm not going to stop naming names because I'll forget. And man, I hit them with the worst closed lines ever because I didn't want to hurt them, right? Well, a terrified nerves. But also I was like, this is a who's who of the current, especially then the current British independent wrestling scene, you can't hurt them. And I won't say who it was. But they said it in a very good way. It was a very like, you know, wasn't like bullying. It was very much a part of the team now. One of the people did drag me one side after that said, Simon, you ever closed line me like that again? I will no sell it and I'll beat you up for real. It was done very tongue in cheek, but he was saying, dude, you can hit us. It's okay. And I've watched that back a few times. It is painful. It's your first, you know, I don't think. But it's a blessing and a curse. I was blessed to be in that position, but also you'd be much better off having your first match in front of a hundred people in a, I don't know, leisure center. That's always a good idea because there's a lot that comes along with it as opposed to doing, hey, I'm going to do it on streaming service that loads of people loads of people watch. But now I think, I mean, that would happen again. I've got a match in August with them, Danhausen, and I'll feel the same way then. I'll be looking at Dan. Why am I wrestling Danhausen? You know, it's just, I don't, I think it's important to keep that level of humility. Otherwise you just, you won't enjoy it. You can't enjoy it. You should always, you should always remember that these are cool moments that have sort of sprung along for one reason or another. And you just mentioned the Danhausen match, and I do want to talk about that a little, especially because you're someone who's been very good at kind of blending, both being serious and then also leaning into the silly side, the leaning into your catch phrases and so on. They get over. So I don't blame you in the slightest, but is that something that you're looking like you're saying there that you're kind of worried a little bit, is it something as well that you're kind of looking forward to because it's a bit, that wrestling Danhausen is obviously a twofold first. He's very good at wrestling period, but then you add in this cup and then the other side is this comedies act. So I imagine you're excited for both parts of them, but just general thoughts on getting to work with Danhausen. Absolutely. Like I, I do Twitter Q&As here and there and people will always say to me, what's your realistic dream match? And it was always Orange Cassidy or Danhausen, right? They were things somehow maybe in the universe, you know, you can say Roman Reigns, but you know, you're shooting. You're shooting that, my man. I don't mean that, I don't mean that like, you know, bad towards Danhaus and Orange Cassidy. But it's just the way AEW operates. There is just more opportunities to do that stuff. So yeah, when it finally happened, again, UPW again, this is the cool thing about it. Ain't no one doing Danhausen when he's doing his tour around the country is a big star. So another benefit of being the bad guy in UPW is like, literally what you just said, Miller likes being a goof. Miller will do anything, which I will do. I have no shame whatsoever. It just makes sense. And I think that the, the, the combination of the goofy and the silly that this is where I owe a lot to everything that I got to do in YouTube because if you go back and watch my first YouTube videos, I mean, they're back then. Oh, that word bad. They're green and they're amateurish because I'm still finding my way, but they're also very much me trying to be whoever I thought that person should have been. Again, that sounds way to over the top. But eventually, I'd better say with you as well. And eventually you just find who actually am I as a person that I want to pay onto this canvas and it didn't surprise me hugely to go, you're an idiot. You're just, I just a moron. I just am. So in wrestling where you have all this creativity, look, I've done some real serious angles and it's awesome, but they've always been peppered with what we can do this and it'll be funny and we can do this a little bit silly. I like doing that's one of the reasons why my stuff does connect or I hope it does because I think deep down, everyone's a little bit of a little bit of a moron. And if you are happy to send yourself up, then yeah, I just think it humanizes you a little bit. So yeah, it's absolutely the reason I'm excited about the downhillism match because a he'll come with a bunch of incredible ideas, but there's more chance of me saying, you know, I got one. I won't say it here. I should message him really and make sure he's cool with it. It is so ridiculous. And I pitched it to UPW and they said, look, we would love you to do that along as you're happy with it, but we have to check with him, of course, because yeah, that's respect. So if he lets me do that, well, I'll make sure I send it to you when it gets a green lip, but it's utterly, utterly stupid. But the way I look at it, like it makes me laugh. Right. Yeah, it makes me laugh. Surely it makes one other person laugh. That's what Ricky and Gervais and Stephen Merchant used to say. We just make each other laugh and then we go, well, I guess somebody else will laugh with it too. So yeah, I would never want to get rid of either aspect. I think it would be disingenuous too. I think people would see right through it. And you mentioned it there, finally, you've fought on YouTube and so on so far. But now you're juggling both. And you've been juggling both for quite a while now is there been ever a point where you were overwhelmed you because obviously you're in two different realms of the wrestling industry. Like, and there's a lot that comes with both of them, lot of stress, a lot of just attention, so on so forth. Was there ever a time where you had to sit down and think to yourself, can I do both of these? Do I have to give one of these up? Or was it just good quick? I mean, there have been times where I've been overwhelmed by it and from a how the hell am I going to squeeze all this in point of view. But no, I never thought about taking myself out of the game just because I kind of set up a lot of rules for myself quite early on, not intentionally just by how I felt. And my thing was always we don't take away. We add as my big thing. So there's an opportunity. Well, I'll just do it. There's an opportunity to do it. We'll stack things up. So what we're really ties into is coming out the pandemic. I decided, oh, I think I want to be an actor now. Well, because I was just sat around doing nothing. And I thought, what, what would you really regret not going after and I decided acting was the way. So I made a promise myself, we're going to do acting. Now, actually, once the world opened up and resting was there again, I think I would have just left it. But that's not how my brain works. So I got, I did that and I, you know, I got, I quite enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot, to be honest. And I thought, I'll fit that point. And the reason I'm telling this story is it ties into, I think it was October last year where it was October. I know it was October last year because it ended with my match against everyone's favorite wrestler right now, Joe Hendrick, the TNA paper. So with no one knows this, within that two weeks, not only was I flying up and down to Newcastle, I'm based down south to film things with Joe. I was also making sure getting all my content doing. I also flew to Ireland and back for a wrestling booking. And I was also recording was also filming. It was a, it was a tiny, tiny role. I had one line. I was also filming an independent movie and I got to the end of this two and a half weeks didn't. And my girlfriend looked at me and she went, I actually think you're dying because my face was just, I, even I, we took so pictures of that. No one would notice at the time, if you compared a healthy version to clearly put you like you do. Do you need to be serious? Yeah. And so that does happen every now and then. And you know this. People think the content game is just, oh, you say some things that it magically appears on the internet. No, no, it's so the stuff you don't see is the hardest part. That's what it takes up all your time. So, you know, there's no point pretending otherwise. Sometimes I'm late to shows. I mean, luckily I usually get booked on a show because of what culture stuff no one thinks will Osprey's coming through the door. So that does help because they go, okay, well, we understand it ties in. But no, yeah, there's definitely been times where you're like, this is a lot, but I'll be honest with you, man. In those moments apart from the times where you just need sleep and you need sustenance. My overwhelming filming has always been, isn't it? Flipping cool that I have all this stuff I can throw myself into is always always my gut thing. And when that hits me, I'm like, man, you can keep going, bro. You can keep going. Eventually it's going to calm down. So you just keep pushing through. So the other question I was getting those Q and A's I mentioned is if X happened, would you give up YouTube? And of course there's there's a scenario where I would because it would just mean, well, I can't say no to that. We have to go full in, but until that happens, man, just keep bringing on these opportunities and I'll keep doing them to the best of my ability and being super gracious that anybody would even think of me to begin with. Absolutely, man. And you mentioned it there and I was gone. I have to ask you about them because obviously, as you said, talk of the wrestling world now, you did wrestle them at the DNA pay-per-view, Joe Henry, you're both kind of in that same kind of realm in the British scene of just having a dark comedy aspect of both being great belt belt workers as well. What's the process like working with Joe? Because as we all know, he does get very scathing when he wants these. So just a little background on getting to work with Joe Henry. Yeah, look, it is all. I owe Joe a lot for that opportunity, right? We were coming in, you know, TNA was coming into the UK. They were working Newcastle, which is like what culture HQ? And he just, you had this idea and he was like, wouldn't it be great if, you know, we could bring these two worlds together? And I'm totally breaking what I said I'd never break now. But I have a feeling he's going to do all right regardless. I think we could talk about it. But like the way that it all kind of kicked off is we played it for as it was real, right? That's when I flew up there and we had this big thing in the what culture offices where, you know, we filmed it in a sense. We wanted it to we did a bunch of DMs and stuff. We wanted it to come across as real. But we would we assume most people would be like, well, yeah. But no, no, no. What happened is everybody thought it was real. And I was getting DMs from wrestlers, wrestlers and promoters go, why are you falling out with Joe Henry? And because we both promised not to say the answer. I don't know, man, guys out of control. And then and then I can't remember what happened now. Then we dropped something and it was obvious level. It's not really, it was probably the graphic, like impact impact TNA are going to go, oh, yeah, let these two proper people fight in a wrestling ring. So that's what I think people got it. But I think because of that, we actually sort of, again, he's the master of the internet, right? I like to think I've got my own little place in that too. So I think these two audiences coming together. Yeah, we create a nice little niche for ourselves. And yeah, that was again, Joe didn't have to offer me the opportunity, but we did and we went there and again as an absolute as an absolute ball. Like I was told to go out there and, you know, be a bad guy. And I think most people assumed that I was of the time a little happy smiley guy on YouTube. He just wants to be the good guy. I was like, no, I want to, I want to be the dickhead. Of course I do. So that was awesome. So I got to do some promo time. Again, it was a proper old school here. That's what I was told to do, right? Yes, sir. No, sir. And everyone was really complimentary about that too. So that was nice. You know, you've got who's who are wrestling back there and they're going, oh man, yeah, you know, way to get, way to get you home to boo you. And then it was, it was just great. And while I was like, I got to base where I phrased the right way, I'm not surprised that Joe has got the traction that he has got, but I also am because I like to think he's hit such a level that he deserves that kind of praise too. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's like, it's like when the rock first got into movies, of course he can get into movies. He becomes the biggest movie star ever. You're like, wait, what? How did that happen? I get what you mean. So you're basically saying that Joe kind of like you expected him to get popular. He didn't expect him to get this popular space. I did. Yeah, I knew that he'd always make, he'd make it to wherever they had he wants to. Hey guys, I'm here to tell you about eBay Auto. eBay Motors is the leading online platform for automotive dealers to get their inventory in front of over seven million ready to buy shoppers who are buying cars and trucks on eBay Motors every three minutes, every single day. They make it easy to find parts for cars, trucks, SUVs, motorcycles and more. They even offer a massive selection of new and pre-owned classics, whether it's fixing, updating or maintaining your existing vehicle or finding new and used vehicles. eBay Motors is easy to navigate by vehicle type category of items, sales, events or the brand type of car motorcycle pickup or SUV that you have. 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Go to Shopify.com/try now to grow your business. No matter what stage you're in, Shopify.com/try. Make it. I did not think you'd have the fourth most watched WWE social clip of 2024. But again, I mean that as a compliment. Do you know what I mean? I mean like of course of course he was going to do that because that's how he that's how he sees things. So yeah, like just all the best to him. You know, I went when he walked out of NXT. I was like three in the morning. I popped my socks off. I was like, there you go. You get him Joe and you know, he's been doing this. Like I say, when I debuted in that defiant match, I won't tell that story. So I think it's fair. But he was another guy that took me to one side. He gave me some damn good advice. Really, really good advice. And I put my foot in it by accident. He didn't know me apart from the case one of the guys that makes videos and he went out of his way to say time and I would maybe approach this in a different way. I know it's an accident. But you know, so yeah, you know, like he's it's not just that he has earned it from everything he's put into wrestling is the stuff he's done outside of wrestling too. So yeah, I feel given the what in June now. So that was October like six, six, seven months ago. I think it's cool that I liked it. I'm going to pretend that I was the guy that launched him. Which isn't the truth at all. He probably did more for me to be to quickly on this. But hey, we take what we can. Got to do what you got doing this industry. I really that much. That's right. That's right. But so we're going to move on to a topic that obviously that put you down the dumps a little recently was your recent injury that took you out a super strong start 16. And from what I've even from what I when I was talking to progress and so on about you being pulled from. Did everyone say and how like how gutted you were? But I just want to know just like what went into that injury what caused it if you're comfortable sharing that and just what what was the process in getting in like being pulled from the tournament like. So, I mean, look, it's a good story. It's a bad story like all my stories, but the reason I was injured is because leading into super strong style. I got to tour America for two months as part of the last match pro wrestling rock and roll musical experience. Right? Because some evil geniuses and a lab had concocted up this thing where to play, but it's a wrestling show and it's got songs and it's it's the coolest thing ever done. Like it really really is. Matt Cardona was in the original one a couple of years ago. He was an executive producer on this one. So I've got to talk to Matt Cardona for a while, which is always a treat and essentially what happened was just because it was quite a labor intensive schedule because you're, you know, you're performing here. You get in a bus. You go to the next place. You get in a bus. You drive and drive and driving because I hadn't been injured in probably I'd say four plus years, especially not since the pandemic. Of course, what happened is one of the first shows I took a bump and I just charred my shoulder a little bit. Now, if this had been normal life, I would have taken a week off. I wouldn't have gone to the gym or would advice blah blah blah. But I was like, well, no, I'm not not allowing these shows. I'm doing these shows there. I'm going to go on. Exactly. So what, you know, if you've already sort of got a tweak, you'll be amazed to hear this Corey. If you got a tweak and then you bump on that shoulder, but literally, well, it's just like a month constant, literally, you know, one day off, one day off, one day off, one day off. What happens is it gets worse than it gets worse. Now, my thing was at the end of that, ironically, during the last match of the tour, my arm still worked. I still had complete rotation. And don't get me wrong, you know, to be completely honest. There's last two weeks, man, I was icing and I was going to like physiotherapists, you know, I was stretching straight. My whole, my whole being was just keep this shoulder going. So I didn't want to give up this opportunity and because I want to be ready for Strong Style. So I got home on a Sunday. Strong Style was the following Sunday. I went to my physiotherapist to, you know, your wrestler makes sense to have a physiotherapist, right? Especially as you get older. It's just, it's just part of the job. You should, I think most people should be doing that. And she, she started going over it. And I was like, I'm amazed to have range of motion. As she said, I tell you why you have range of motion, because you're the luckiest man that's ever walked in. She said it's like a balloon because imagine you filled up a balloon with water and you kept throwing it on the floor. Because that is what your shoulder is like. She said, essentially what you've done is I can't remember all the names, but you rotate a cuff tendons. You've got your supersonates, you've got your sub-skilaris, you've got your Insta-scraptula, whatever. You've literally hurt every single one of them. But because of the rehab you were doing and because you understand your body and you know what you can and can't get away with, when one has kind of got worn out, your body's going, we'll get around the other one. And now we've got worn out, we're around the other one. And this is where the progress of the coin came in because she was like, I'm not going to tell you, you shouldn't do it. I am going to tell you, you're walking the tightrope right now. Like you could take 10 more bumps. Surprisingly, she didn't say bumps, but we'll say bumps to the process of this thing. You could take 10 more bumps and you could be fine. You could take one bump, the whole thing could go and you're going to need surgery because that's, I have to tell you the truth. So again, that was a Tuesday. I sat on it for 48 hours hoping that magically it would start getting better and then we'd just see somebody else that was a friend of mine, you know, second opinion. They said exactly the same thing. Yeah. And then yeah, I rang them on the Thursday and man, poor, poor people because they didn't just get a phone call or zoom call where I was like, I can't do it. It was here on my 32,796 ways that we can do it and we can make this work for the story. I know that you want, I want to tell a literary man. I was, I won't go into them in case we go back to it and bless their hearts. They did take them under advisement and they went back and because they're an awesomely run company, they came back and they said Simon, here's the plans where we were going with this anyway. We can still get there without you being in super strong style. No one's going to hold us against you. And the last thing we want, especially over that weekend, which is meant to be a fun, exciting, you know, WrestleMania type, you know, independent weekend is for somebody to get hurt. And so they said, we really just don't think you should, you should do it even more so. And I said this to him as well because my match was against Ricky Knight Jr, which I was so excited about. That is such a cool person to test yourself against. Can I help? Can I live up to that guy? I didn't, well, I didn't want that, not that he would have done, but you know, I didn't want anything to happen and him feel like he had been responsible because he wouldn't have been, but also to the point of having that match is to match his intensity and to match his fire and whatever the words you want to use, you know, he's a flippin warrior in there. And even if I had taken one bump and it had gone, what happens is you start to hesitate. And when you hesitate, the match just falls apart. So, you know, once they told me what my plans were for the rest of the year and that we could still get there regardless, you know, you just didn't see a gut and I just knew it was the right thing to do. But that's why I'd come up with all these like fail safes. What about this? What about this? What about this? But it was, I'm not going to look at that Friday when it was sort of basically sorted. It was awful because again, I always set goals for myself and when progress hired me as the, as the host, my, my goal internally was, well, I'm going to do this host job to the best of my ability, but eventually I'm going to stick my toe and I'm going to get over there. I'm going to wrestle some matching against super strong style, not win it. Again, we take baby steps as to when they told me they were doing it, man, especially because I'm ranting now. It's so true. But this is just how life works, right? Ironically, ups and downs, but I'm so excited about doing this two months in America. That's a once in a lifetime opportunity for me. They're coming in, having a week, seeing my friends, seeing my family, seeing my girlfriend and then going to strong style. I was like, you've made it something. You've made it. You've done it. It's the greatest moment of your life. And then surprise surprise. It's something that came along. So the fact that we're now like a month removed or whatever it is, totally the right decision, totally the right decision. There have been some tough old days where just through the rehab process, you're like, man, thank goodness. I didn't, didn't take the chance. But it was still, yeah, in terms of one of the worst things that happened to resting in a while, that was, that was it. Like there was some days when I woke up and I just felt like, well, I just felt pants. You know what I mean? You can't help it and the blessed progress was still letting me be involved in that weekend. Like I didn't have to do that, but they did. And again, the good side for any progress fans watching or listening is reading is, it's all going to work out. Okay. The, the, the ideas that we've got are super cool and I'd far rather be back in the mix. Again, I should be back in the mix in sort of a couple of weeks or so, then right now I'll be talking to you with my arm in a sling, waiting for surgery. And nobody wants that. So yeah, it sucked, but these things are meant to try. So let's hope it's one of those things. You look back at hindsight and go when it was a blessing in disguise. And like you've mentioned it there a bunch of times, how good it's been to work with progress on how understanding they've been, you've really found a home for yourself in progress since the turn of the year really had that incredible match with Tate as well, which just blew a lot of people away and myself included. But what, what's stopping like overall working with progress is, is it, do you feel like it's becoming your home as much as it seems like it's the outside? I mean, I've never looked at it like that before, but the, the support of the progress crowd gets me every time. Like I said to the guys, I said, I cut a promo just explaining to everyone. I said, of course, like we never like do that. And I was convinced I was going to come out and I was going about, oh, typical Simon. Of course you weren't able to make it. But actually what happened is because they set it up, you know, this person wants to come out and say, sorry, or who's it going to be again, you need to pro resting these things a little bit. And then when my music here as backstage, I was genuinely flawed that the reaction I can hear in people's voice actually disappointed. You actually heard, oh, no, and I really got me. And I was like, I felt it in my face. It's like, you can't go out there crying, at least crying when you're in the ring. Don't cry. Yeah. You have to say for the cameras. Exactly right. What do you come out? So sad. But and then everyone came up and said nice words and listen, it's the same with the, you know, that tape match. That tape match was the end of a trilogy. And if we go through the wins, we win loss record, I lost, I lost, I lost. Now that's a risky, that's a risky strategy to take. And yet at the end of all that, people still coming out to me go, man, you'll get him next genuinely. You'll get him next time Simon. You get him next time Simon that damn tape. People are so nice to me there. And they support me to such a degree. It genuinely does. It humbles me like hell. So actually, I think in a way, yeah, I probably do see it like that, even if it's subconsciously, because when I go there, I feel like I can be unashamedably myself. And I remember before I did my first hosting gig, I had two different, I don't, I bullet point my promos, but I had two different versions in my head, one of which was, all right, they hate you because you're the YouTube guy. And I had some, some zingers to throw out there. And the other one was just, oh, sweet. They're all good with it. And it's always been the other way. They've always liked the stuff. If I accidentally say, you know, a word that ties into the show, they start charting it, which I tried, I deliberately tried to stay away from that stuff. So I totally understood my roles. The host was just to be a conduit. But you can't help but love it. It was awesome. And yeah, ever since then, they again, they've just been so behind me and it's the same for management too and the creative team. So yeah, actually, now you've said, I do feel that and that's cool because, you know, progress are, you know, they're a cornerstone of the British wrestling scene. And somebody once did tell me when I first started signing progress, I ain't never going to book a YouTuber. I was like, I'll show you Mother Hubbard. And here we are. So yeah, no, it's a cool place to work for sure. And you just mentioned that they're like people kind of like doubting you from your background because of it and obviously starting late and so on. Does that feel like a running theme in your career so far enduring, just proving people wrong over and over again? All right, early on. Yeah. Oh, yeah, seriously. Earlier, once I'm out for good, I'll tell all the stories. Man, I will shout like a convict. But you, you, you, you, and you, honestly, there's some names I could drop. But it's like not their fault. I get it, right? They didn't know what my training was. It's just that I assume they thought, oh, here comes the YouTuber. Things they can just come in, not like going out there and trying to treat it respectfully. Dude, at first, because the first I started taking defiant bookings and then it's like starting a new job. How do you get a wrestling booking? I don't know. So I got some advice and stuff. When I tried to get some wrestling bookings, I couldn't even get the conversation started because people thought I was going to be asking for like hundreds of pounds. I was like, no, no, no. You pay me based on my experience as a wrestler. And as we all know, an independent wrestling is a hot dog and a handshake. But I said that's what I will take. Like, I would never ever in a million years expect to be treated any, it's not like if I'm Brad Pitt, treat me differently. I'm not right. I've got this cool side of my life that I'm able to utilize going into this side of my life, but you treat me like a new wrestler. That's so long. And there were a bunch of wrestlers again that I had to win over, but they again do when you do win them over. That's the coolest thing ever. I think eventually people got to the point that we does care and he does want to try hard. And this isn't just like a hard hard to him. Like he's really being serious about it. And when I did click for, you know, certain people that do have, like I say, names, it just, it makes the, the journey. So people say that it makes it even sweeter, right? Because you're like, Oh, cool. I've won these people over. And now they understand where I'm coming from and they're giving me advice. So, but yeah, no, yeah, one day we got right the book on that. There was a good two years to the start of my career with every locker room. I was like, I'm seven years old back at school. I hate it. I hate it. But again, you just you double down and you're like, we can get through it. We can get through it. And hey, it worked. So that's cool. I'm sure there's still one person out there still like flipping YouTuber. Everybody cuts in a promo every camera. Here comes the YouTube. It makes me laugh. So that's fine. And I have one more question for you, Simon, before I do let you go. And so coming back from this injury, you're kind of you're probably feeling like you got to make up for some laughs time. Obviously, it's not much time, but at this age of career course, every month counts. And what are your goals for the rest of this year? Obviously, you've got a damn house and match that's massive. But is there anything else that you're hoping to be involved in? Maybe maybe we might see is a bit of security on all in. Who knows? Well, I got to do that last year. I'll do around two men. I'll be thrown into the barricade by powerhouse. Will Hobbes has a good day for me. Yeah. So absolutely the Danhaus and thing at UPW and on August the eight is up there. The progress plan throughout the summer is super cool. I mean, I can say this, you know, I got kicked right in the balls during super strong style weekend. They're not going to let that go. So we've got to go sort that out too. And then, yeah, moving into the second half of the year, very, very cool Lee is just a lot of overseas bookings because I got my US visa now. I should be sorting out my social security number next week. How that's become a thing. I don't know. So yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. Still going to be working over the UK. But there's one booking, especially in September that I'm super excited about as soon as we can announce that that's going to be really, really fun. But yeah, that's kind of my goal. My goal, my goal sort of last year was just get wrestled. You know, you get booking. It's a bit more specific this year is sort of get better, of course, but try and hit the whatever my ceiling is at the moment, hit that ceiling and then we'll go up to the next floor. So yeah, absolutely, you know, as many British dates as I can do, but then certainly from August one just got moved. So we just say, certainly from September, America, Canada, I'm going to be there a lot, which is, which is, I'm really excited about it because I never thought that would be the direction I did go in. But now that I do have this. Well, legality, I suppose is no way to put it where I can do it and no one can get mad at me. I've come up with this sort of small plan and yeah, hopefully it sort of means, I don't give too much away, but hopefully it means a start of next year. I should be based there much more than I ever have been. And not, again, I mean this, not my wildest dreams. I've ever think I could say, oh, I may get to live in America for six weeks, do a bunch of resting stuff and some other stuff on the side that I can't even talk about right now. So that is absolutely, you know, my plan and it's also been good, you know, the last six weeks has sucked last month, really, it's not even six weeks. The last month has sucked. I like to think maybe it was just enforced rest and then I hope to be back in the ring sort of next week or so. And then yeah, we'll just run, we'll run this body into the ground over the next few years and then we'll walk off into the sunset and write the book and we're done and then we can see where we got to. And Simon, before I do send you off, I do want to say this. I've started to report on British Wrestling News. I'm sure you've seen a couple of times. So I do want to say this, you're definitely becoming someone that everyone is looking out for because every time I say, oh, British Wrestling News is coming. Simon Miller, Simon Miller, Simon Miller, Simon Miller. Is it about Simon? If it's about Simon, we don't care. So you've got the attention. I've noticed it, trust me. And somehow guys, if you're not, I'm going to ask Simon here to let you guys know where to follow him on social media. Somehow if you are not aware of Simon in the wrestling sphere, so Simon, take that away. Well, I want to say thank you for that first because that's still super cool to hear. The fact that people care, that's all wrestling is. Do you care? So the fact that people care is awesome. Otherwise, very depressingly, my social media is Simon of 316. I say this on every interview I do. No, back in 2007, I wouldn't have put 316 on my name. I don't know what my future held. I was working in video games. I didn't understand what Twitter was. My friend John said, you just have this Twitter thing. I was like, well, I just say what I want. I don't get it. But hey, ho, here we are now. There's no going back, right? Because that's just a bit of search for otherwise. Yeah, you should check out what culture, of course, also check out my own channel, Simon Miller. Basically, I'm very blessed these days. You can search for my name on Google. And much like Joe Hendry, I will appear. So yeah, if anyone could do that. And listen, if you want to book an arresting show, I ain't that expensive. Just so basically, people still think I am. Listen, I like to think I understand business, right? It has to work for both parties. Otherwise, what's the point? I don't want to take money out of a promoter's pocket. So yeah, I absolutely do love to come in and just do as many bookings as possible, for sure. And again, Simon, thank you so much. Guys, if you are new to wherever this is, you're going to try and cover it. So if it's on the 5th of May channel, 5th of Overbook, or if it's on 5th of Select, subscribe, come back. Make sure to keep coming back for more interviews. Going to be doing a lot more then. 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