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Gemara Markings Daf Yomi

Bava Basra 3b

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28 Jun 2024
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Guimalum et alif, picking up on that 70% of the way down the yamud, the line directly underneath the tozfus, Debra Masvil, or Makkum Shinagolivnais, which is part of the Mishnah. The Mishnah mentioned four types of stones or bricks or building material for walls. Gvil, which I underlined, that's the sixth tefach, standard size building stone, is Avni Deloy Mishafia, those are stones that were not smoothed down, obviously they're not smoothed down. There's a lot of protrusions and they come to approximately six wide. Guses, which I underlined, is and they were five tefachim, Avni, those are the same types of gvil stones, but then Mishafia, they've been smoothed down, sanded down, they are five tefachim, like the past success, Colele, Avonimio Carois, Camidos Guses, and it's really the continuation of the pastook that we're looking for and it refers to Guses and then says McGahra Royce, but McGayra's scraped down or sanded down with a scraper. Fiswech underlying, which are four, those are Aarhi, which is known as a Rachisensichatsie Leveno, now Leveno will see shortly, maybe we'll do it right now, Levenin, which I underlined are three, those are Livni, standard size bricks, they were three tefachim wide, what you would do is you would take a three tefach brick, you would slice it in half, you would move the two halves one tefach away and then fill the middle with the type of cement and that's how it would be four, period, Amar, lei, rubber braided to rubber braided to rubber the Rachis, I put an A on this Lushion, three lines later, the middle line is naked down, re-escalated on that, that's going to be Lushion B. So in this Lushion, I'm going to rub a braided to rubber the Rachi, me, my, and I put a diamond around the term me, my, even what we just said, the last line and a half, who says that Geville equals Avni de Levenscaffia in who, who says those are quarried stones that were not smoothed down, queshemar kama, vahai tefachisiele amorche de carnus, and the extra tefach is the protrusions of the stone, queshemar kama, Dilma palga de gauzisu, maybe it's half of a gauzis and then well, one second of gauzis is only five, well if you slice it in half, vahai tefachis sera, the extra tefach that makes it six is Lebany orbi, who, in between the two sides, like we just said, kama kanericht, amrina nekfissen ar archi, Levenem ar Livni, well archi is basically a Livni slice in half, the haitefachis sera, Lebany orbi. In other words, the same way we said that the four tefach, one, is basically a three, one slice in half with the additional tefach of cement in the middle, why don't we say the same thing, for the six relative to the five? Well, amralei, so says bakravashi, Ulatamek, according to you, that which we know that queshem are archi menalen, Ela, all this stuff, how do we know it? Gamora gamiri law, we know it as a tradition, and that's just the way it is, so then guvil nami, when it comes to guvil as being six, how do we know that the sixes, stones that have not been smoothed down often, Dilma shafya, because it's a Gamora gamiri law, that's what we have as a tradition, and there's no, no, like, svarra behind it, that's just the way it is, kama, ikadamri, which we school, when will I make it down, me and luschen b, is the same type of thing we did in luschen a, from a different direction. Ah, well, the word of archi menalen, it says kravashi, me mai, I put a diamond around the word, me mai, who says, and now we're going to focus on the four and three, the queshem and levainen, who says the queshem equals archi menu, bahai tefachis sera, if they're archis, they should be three, whereas they're an extra tefach that makes them four, levaini orbi, because they're slice in half, and then there's a tefach of cements in the middle, that connects the two halves, making it a total of four, Dilma, maybe mai, fisen, what are they, maybe those are omnidolemeshafya, that's a type of stone, that has got a lot of natural protrusions on it, but heitefikas sera, the morsedekarnus, kadamri, just like we said, by the six and the five, that the grill equals omnidolemeshafya, and the gauzus is omnidimeshafya, heitefikas sera is for the morsedekarnusa, so why don't we say that, omra leis, sera vashi, back to rahvah, braid rahvahvya, well litame, according to that reasoning, how do you know that guvile goes omnidolemeshafya in minelan, where would you know that from, ela, you know where, the tradition that we have, that that's what it is, that's the definition of what that type of brick is, ela gamore gamirilah, hakadame so too, this must be a gamore gamirilah, period, omra abaie, shmami no, we can conclude from here, the Holbeni orbi is a tefach, when you need space in between, if you have, let's say, a brick and you're going to slice it in half, and then you're going to distance those two halves a little bit and put something in the middle, how much space in the middle, a tefach, while honey mili batina, that's if you're using, literally, tina is mud, and I never understood mud as being a good binder of two items, but maybe with a little bit of glue in it or a certain type of mud, by the way, that's if you're using pure mud, avalbe riksa, if you're using some sort of, this would be a little bit more like an ancient type of cement or mortar like a pebbles and mud together, boi, you would require to pay a little bit more space. If you need a tefach, that's if you're using a pebble mud mixture of albatina of its pure mud, lo boi, kuli hai, you actually wouldn't need a tefach, less space with suffice, period. It's slightly new, so give it a good morning, I'll ask the memory, dibbe guzzis. We're talking about a wall that has a greea, so it has to be four amis tall, so that's to say that a guzzis material wall, called arba amis gova, if you have four amis of height, y hai peusya khamshakai, if the width of the wall at the bottom is five tefachim, then it will stand, elo, but if not, lo kai it won't stand, in other words, in fact you're telling us it has to be five, because it has to be four amis tall, seems to be, that's what you need for it to stand effectively. Well, one second, faha amatroxen, the amatroxen which separated between the kodush and kodush and kodush, in the base of mikdosh, dibbe guvoa, that was huge, it wasn't four amis, it was 30, tilsten amis at 30 amis tall, velo hai peusya elo, shis pushy, and how wide was it? It was six fefachim, so when we have five fefachim with, it will stand nicely at four amis, and one little additional tefach, it could stand, you know, eight and a half times taller. The kham, exclamation point, so the gunmoor explains. Even the ekotefachiseira, kai, that's right, sometimes a little bit extra, can go a long way. Okay, ask the kamoor though, mikdoshaini, in the second base of mikdosh, my time of the way of it amatroxen, second base of mikdoshin, said the amatroxen, they had a kirten, why not make an amatroxen, what's with the kirten? Well, kai, when you have one amis, betilsten kai, one amis will be good for 30, it's fae lo kai. Apparently, the height of the sunmoor is mikdosh, the lower part of it was taller than 30. Where do we know that from? I don't know how to give up on its fae, question mark, well to receive, passeux says, and referring to the second base of mikdosh, it says, "gaudal yie, kavo yidabai, says that, greater will be the honor of this structure, ha ha ha, in the later one, the second one, min harishain." Okay, so it was taller. (speaks in foreign language) The second one, greater, was it a bigger inner kodushin kodushikdoshin, meaning taller, or was it that it lasted for more years? The isla ha, the isla ha, both are true, the second base of mikdosh, when you walked into the kodushin kodushin, and kodushikdoshin, until you got to the ceiling, it was higher, the c that you could see, and it also, the first base of mikdosh lasted 410 years, the second base of mikdoshin was 420 years. There was a few questions. Vinavdu, I put a triangle around this vit niyavdu, and four lines later, first word on the line is vili avit, I was put to triangle around that. So here's the most first question. Vinavdu, why don't we say, "Tilsen Amund binu, you said the second base, ha mikdosh, it was higher, you had to go higher to get from the floor to that first ceiling, and that's why you had to have a curtain. Well, why not have the same wall that was 30, keep it at 30, viidachnavdu, parechas, and whatever the additional height was, I've been an additional tenamis, the upper tenamis, a curtain, why not that? Well, because kikai tilson, we said that a 30 ama tall wall will stand, if it is six trochum wide, kikai tilson amson, nami, that also requires something else, agaf tikru maziva, because if it goes up to the ceiling, you can get a lot of additional support by plastering it into the ceiling, kai, but low tikru maziva, but without that, which you're not going to have if you have a 30 ama tall wall, but the ceiling, let's say, is at 40 amas, low, ha viikai won't be able to stand. vili avit, triangle in this view, have another question, vili avit might have some opinion, okay fine, so it can't be 30, but why not do, however tall it can stand, safely and securely do wall, vili avit it ha viikai, so whatever the additional amount of height is, do that with a curtain. Amra baie, baie says, well that's not an option, you know why kimiri, we have a tradition, yi kulu binyan, yi kulu binyan, yi kulu binyan, yi kulu binyan, either the whole thing is going to be an actual, like built wall, or it's going to be a curtain, call an equal binyan, how do we know the present for each one of these? Well, the whole thing to be an binyan is mikdush, from the first base of mikdush, yi kulu binyan or the whole thing is a curtain that we know from the mishkhan, and therefore when it came to the second base ha mikdush, you either have to have it all curtain or all wall. i baie luhu, i'm going to ask a question, hain ve cidan odilma hain bello cidan, in other words, that which the mishnad said, that geville wall between two neighbors, each neighbor gives three fakhim of their property, the other one also gives three fakhim, is that together with the plaster that you're putting on top of the wall afterwards, or not including the plaster, in other words, is it with the plaster, a total of six fakhim, or is it with the plaster maybe, i don't know, six point two, six point three, fakhim. So amram nakimari, yitzak mistabrai, dot underlined the word mistabra, kind of makes sense to say hain ve cidan, it's them, along with the plaster, in other words, the wall material, just raw material without the plaster is a little bit less than six, and yeah, the plaster only gets to six. Why, why would we say that, d'is not that ideally we would have think, hain bello cidan, in other words, the wall, raw wall material itself is six, then listen a la chire, we should have a share of how thick this it is, is it one tenth of a tefach, is it an espa, like tell us what it is, et la lafs from you know, rather, shall we not conclude from here, hain ve cidan, that the six tefach measurement is the wall material, plus the plaster all together comes to six, so it more says, well yeah, maybe yeah, but maybe not low, come a low, let me know, I can tell you, hain bello cidan, not only it's just the raw material, the plaster is on top of that, well then why don't you tell me the size of the plaster on top, how thick it was, we can't even delay how they tefach, since it doesn't come to a tefach, low tani, in other words, it's not really taught because you don't have a round number tefach, it's a little much less than that, and we're not going to get into fractions, really, the hakatani, because it's one second, if you look at the mission, when it gave the gauze's size wall, it's a zen zen zfachaimummerse, but zen zfachaimummerse, it says each side, the gears is a little bit changed here, not leveinim, but we're talking about gauze's, total of five means each one has to give two and a half, so we see we are getting into fractions when we're dealing with this, well the bar explains, how some, how's that it's the roofy, the reason we're getting into two and a half, plus another two and a half, is because when you add the two, you get to a nice round number of five. Tashma, we come and see, now this is going to try to answer the issue of the question, is are the dimensions mentioned in the mission of the three, four vices, that including the seed, the plaster you put on afterwards, or not, so we bring a taniic source that we have from a sceres ereven, when you enter into an alleyway, you're entering into a rishosai yachid, but since it's kind of similar to rishosirabim, the rabbi said you have to make some sort of discernible distinction, and one of those things is a beam, as you enter into the alleyway, you have a wall on your right, wall on your left, wall straight ahead of you, and you have a beam that goes from the right of the entryway to the left of the entryway at the top, kai russia amru, does that have a minimum size? Yeah, it has to be rachwa, wide enough, kade le kabel ariach, so as to hold, in other words, wide or strong enough, they could hold a brick on it, how big is a brick, the harriach, equals, katsi, it's half of a levina shell, gimmel tvachim, half of a three tvach, levina, okay, if there's a three tvach levina, rashi says, dibbermascul, gimmel tvachim, we'll read rashi inside about 10 lines, up from where we are on the gimmel tvachim, alma gimmel tvachim de katani, legabe massneeson, when he talks about three tvachim, we said gabe levainim, katiktani, zen ose tvachim, merse, le nose tvachim, merse, hein beloisi don kambar, because a levina itself, without any plaster on it, is three tvachim, that's what it sounds like. Well, back in the gimmera, says no, actually that would not be approved, it could very well be that tenek source from sekasei riven, be revavre vasa, there's slightly different size levanas, the tenek source from iriven that we had the last line in half, is talking about the slightly larger size, dekonomian, because precise reading would actually lead you to that conclusion to katani, here's a three word quote, shal shalisha tvachim, it doesn't say half of a levina, it said half of a levina, that is to reach fachim, michal, the implication of that is the ikazutra, that there is a smaller one, slightly smaller one, shmami, no, amorofchista, on a new topic, well, let's finish Bekanish, if you have a local town synagogue, you cannot break it down, even though you're intending to build a new one, a bigger one, a better one, to bunny Bekanish, until you've built a different Bekanish, basically, we want the new one built, then you can destroy the old one, ikadamir, they're those who say michumk siusa, because of possible negligence, if you destroy one of them, who knows, the other one might not get built, Bekanish, alternatively, michumk siusa, so practical, is you have to have somewhere to pray, so if you break down the first one before the new one is built, where is everyone going to pray, might be nayu, okay, the two different reasons, is there any practical application or a practical difference that would come out, depending on which way you explain it, yep, ikabenayu, their difference would be ikadukta let'sluye, if there is somewhere else to pray, so as far as the concern of that people want to place to pray, well, they do, they have somewhere else, as far as the concern of that another one might not get built, well, yeah, that still is a concern, they might not get built, period, maraiman marzutra, they lived in a town, sassri, they destroyed ubonu and built up a baikaita bissisva, ubona baisisva baikaita, so it seems like they had two different locations, one for the winter, more winter-friendly location, one for the summer, more summer-friendly location, and during the summertime they would redo, maybe break down, maybe improve the other season one, basically in the summer they sought to whatever she would seem to need to be done in the winter, one, and during the wintertime they took care of the summer one, period, maraiman rivashi, gavuzuzi u machti mai, let's say the local town council has collected money and placed it in the same place, like we call it, you know, they got the money in the bank, do we say that's as good as the new one being built, amalay, well, maybe not, you never know, because even the money, even though the money is in the bank, and it's specifically for the temple, the new shoal that's going to be built, dillamisrami luhupigin schuyenvi havulahoo, you never know, in case my come of redeeming captives, and that takes precedence over everything, even taking money out of a bank that had been collected for the shoal. Okay, how about this though, shreegee, livni, vahadri, hudri, u machti, shui, let's say you have the bricks are ordered, all the building material is ordered, the beams are there, everything's ready to go, do we say then, that you can destroy the old shoal, amalay, I guess he says back, there also says rahashi back to ravina zim, dillamisrami luhupigin schuyenvi havulahoo, once again, even if you have the building materials there, and ready to go, it could be a case of it in schuyenvi, mizavni, you'd have to sell it all, vivni havulahoo and give it for the building in schuyen, well, ask the Gomorrah Ihachi, if that is the case, then even if the actual new shoal has been built, not yet davened in, but been built, afilubanunami, amalay, no, because if it's been built already, even if it hasn't been prayed in, dillurase, denish, livnizavni, people don't sell buildings, and that's right, even for pyjenschuyen, period. But yeah, I'm not a little hazy, but this whole discussion of that, you can't destroy the building, if there's not another one ready to go, is only if you haven't seen something that would be structurally dangerous, literally like a big crack that's developed of al-hazibba, to you, if you see something that is clearly indicative that it's a concern that the building might collapse sastryobani, then you destroy right away, and build it up as quickly as you can rebuild it. Kihas, similar to Ravashi, Kazabatayua, he saw a large crack or a large structural deficiency, becanista, in the base caneses of the place he lived, matamikasya, sastry, he had it destroyed, in other words, the building, the ayilipoya lahassam, and to encourage and make sure that it was rebuilt in the speediest and safest way of fashion, he actually moved his bed into that building site, the way afkian didn't remove it, ade matkin lei shfirrii, until the shfirrii is about the last thing added to a building, I believe those are like rain gutters, you put it at the edge of the roof to, when it rains a lot, the water goes into it, brings the water away from the building, bottom line he stayed there till the end, period, ubaazaben buta, hei shfirrii, it's a lahordus, mystery of the base of Midas, well then one second, the story about haban buta, who's a great tourist age, how could he have given advice to a king Herod, who was a king at the end of the second base of Midas period, either the Jewish people, so maybe force himself on them, le mister e la base of Midas, he essentially told them to destroy the base of Midas to build it up new again, but how could he do that? Question markamavamar afrista, lo lister enish, bakenishta, ade matkinishta kriti, according to everything we're saying, that should be a really difficult thing to allow to literally destroy the base of Midas because you're going to build it up anew, like who says, the gunwara has an answer, ebaiseima, either you could say tiua hazaba, that oh no he saw there was some massive structural issue, and therefore they had to break and destroy the first one to rebuild the new one, ebaiseima alternatively mahlusa shiny, all this is said for the regular person, but when you're dealing with a government, certainly it may be a world superpower, when they say something's going to get done, at least most of the time, it gets done. Delo ha'dra bei, they don't back out of official decisions that they've made. Damar schmuel, yamar mahlusa if the king says arachnaturi, we're going to uproot mountains, arachnaturi, those mountains are going to be uprooted, velo ha'dra bei, and all that's been equal, it's not backed out from. Here's a little background to the story of king Herod, how did he become king? So Hordus, of the debei schmunai ha'veu, he was a slave who was owned by the leadership of the Jewish people that, during the Hanukkah time, a story after that, the hashmunai led, they were kohan, they weren't from shivuhudah, but they were kind of like the leaders and went on for a number of years, number of decades, and Herod was a slave as part of that household, nassanina bei satinikis, he eyeballed this young beautiful female that he wanted to essentially make his woman. So yumachad, shamabaskala, one day, I guess this was Herod, but he heard a baskal, d'amar, that said kohla of the demar, hashdan mahlusa, and his slave, the rebels now, will be successful, and he took that as a sign, kam, got up, katle lakulu, marusei, he essentially murdered the entire remaining hashmunai in family. This should have been about the year, let's say about 100 years before the harbenbaes amigdush. So about the year 30 or 35 before the common era. Vishshiri lahi yinukta, and the only one they left alive was that female that he had had the eyes for. Kihazu sahi yinukta, when she realized, de khat boylaminsava that he wanted to marry her, sleek alaigra, she went up to the roof, the ramaskala, and she screamed out, amran said, kohmaan dala sivamra, anyone in the future who comes and says, mimei sashmonai kasina, I'm coming from the Hasmonean family. Avdahu, he must be an avid, because basically the only one left is me, and this Herod character who's an avid, de loishtairami nayo, there's nobody left from any of them, ela hahi yinukta, I'm the only one, that yinukta enough, lemiyagralaara, and that, she talked about herself in the third person, but she's basically saying I'm about to jump off the roof, and she jumped off the roof and killed herself. Now, Tamna sheva shanen bidusha, I guess she didn't go splat on the ground, however she died, she was still somewhat intact, because he preserved her in one of nature's most impressive preservatives, honey, because he had a massive, almost like a coffin filled with honey, and he lowered her in and preserved her for seven years, ekadamri, why would he do that, so there are those who say boa alla hahi, he wanted to have physical relations with her, and that's a way to keeping her, sort of not decomposing, ekadamri alternatively, loa boa alla hahi, that he did not have relations with her. Damri la boa alla hah, that opinion who says that he used it for his sexual pleasure, had de tamna, that which he put her in that state, lea suve, lea suve, lea suve was to satisfy his desires, udamri la the other opinion who says loa boa alla hah, that, no, no, he didn't have relations with her, why did he do this, hai de tamna, well, kehehe den namru, so that people would say, oh, it's him and the queen bas mela, nasa, the must have hitched up with the princess, which hitched up with royalty, makes you potentially a valid royal. Ammar, now Herod, at that point, declared mandarish, who is the one who, which group of people is it that understands the verse in the hummish that says regarding who can be king over the jewish people, mikarav achacha, tasma lecha mela hai, double and round of achacha from amongst your brothers, and now that's what the rabbanan used, that's what we have as a tradition, it has to be a naturally born jew, not a evid, who's the one who darshans that said hoarders? It's the rabbis, the rabbanan, well, he rounded all the rabbis and executed them, kam, kat loon hula kulurabanan, shav kei, he left one rabbi, bhava ben buta, why do you leave one, because you've got at least one, to speak about and get advice from, lamishkal itza, minay, to get advice from, and the muerta sham, we'll pick up next year with the first word on the first line of dallud, amudalif, adkhan.