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You know exactly what he's saying. Wish. President Trump? I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either. Brump swabs, hacks, and moon bats beware. It's... ♪♪ Howdy, car. All right. We're having a great time here at FunSpot Arcade, the world's largest arcade in Laconia, New Hampshire. They're bringing in more pinball machines. Pinball is having a renaissance, you know? It's like people are... it's a retro craze. And so they got... they got one of the old Jaws machines back. I know I'm dating myself by talking about that. That was the super big pinball machine in the '70s. And they built a... they built like a shark tank. So you got to climb into the shark tank to play the Jaws machine. I'm trying to... maybe I'll try to play it after the show. Mailroom manager says no, but... 844-542-42. The jury in the Karen Reed murder case in Dedham has requested to go until 4 15. So, you know, you know how that works. Friday afternoon, the jury's been there for days, listened to weeks, actually months of testimony. Most of it was... which was totally extraneous and very boring led by Adam Lally. And so I think probably a lot of people are just saying to this one or two holdouts. Look, we don't want to come back here Monday. We want to get an early start on the 4th of July. You know, let's get this thing done. You're not going to change our minds. So, you know, why are you being a jerk about this? And then, you know, they... yesterday they asked for the state police report on the accident reconstruction and all that. Can you send us the state police report? There is no report. Come on. We picked up. Since the state police, they picked out their victim. And then, what are they... what are they... those stinking reports for? They had the Karen Reed. She's a whack job with no ass at a Fall River accent. Guilty is charged, Yourana. Let's go to the sidebar and get ourselves a Jameson and Genja. All right, we'll be talking to the turtle boy later. Maybe a little later today than usual. But we'll try to get him on at 433, depending on how it goes. 844, 542, 508. I'm on cloud nine with Biden's embarrassing performance last night. I agree. I'm... I despise it. I've texted this in before, but do not forget how we mandated the vaccine almost three years ago into threat of being fired from your job and preventing the unvaccinated from easily finding a new job. He came after our jobs, our livelihoods, and our career. Many lost their jobs over this and didn't recover or were forced to take that vaccine against their will. Never forget that. Yeah, you know, if the Democrats put up... put up Gretchen Wetmer as his replacement, I mean, I think it's a long shot still, but she's in the mix. She was really bad. Remember that she... she said... she said you couldn't buy seeds at a gardening store or home depot. You couldn't buy seeds. I don't... That was more insane than the plexiglass shields on the bars or the 930 curfews on the weeknights and the 1030 curfews on the weekends. COVID gave you an extra hour to get home on date night number one and date night number two. Remember that? I mean, but she was into that. And then, of course, you couldn't take a boat out on the Great Lakes. A pleasure boat, except for her husband. He was allowed to. Yeah, Gretchen Wetmer, she's quite the star. 844, 542, 442, 844, 542, 442. Just look at it, see if there's anything else here. [laughter] Alright, we'll take some more calls here. By the way, someone said, was he the only one who heard Biden say illegal aliens? I don't have a cut sheet in front of me. We're having a few technical problems today. Jared, do you know where that cut is with Biden talking? I mean, that we're going to be in a situation where all these millions and millions in way talks about illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. There's a reason why we have the fastest-growing economy in the world. Because they're all coming in and going on welfare and committing crimes and murdering us. It's really helping out the economy. But again, what didn't may arcus the homeland's secretary, just say recently that he was not going to refer to them as illegal aliens because it was offensive, even though it's in the federal criminal code. You know, we, in the Department of Homeland Security, I issued a memo very early on that we would not use the term "illegal alien." When speaking of these individuals, we would use the term "non-citizen." [ Laughter ] >> I guess Joe didn't get the memo. [ Laughter ] Joe didn't get a lot of memos though, did he? Eight, four, four, five hundred, forty-two, forty-two. You may not remember this. January, 2021, I kind of remember it as a golden age when gas prices were, I think, somewhere between 211 and 239 a gallon. Biden remembers it a little differently. Cut '89. >> There was no inflation when I became president of Hawaii. The economy was flat on its back. Fifty percent unemployment. He decimated the economy. Absolutely decimated the economy. That's why there was no inflation at the time. There were no jobs. >> Wait a second. Didn't he just say last week that the inflation was 9 percent? Now, he's had a twice that there was no inflation. He even gave Trump at least it was 1.4 percent. I mean, that's practically nothing, but it's still something. And do you remember unemployment being 15 percent? Fifteen percent? >> The fact is that I don't remember. Trump also slipped in a brand in here if we can find that. I'm sorry I don't have the numbers more handy. But he did -- and, you know, the thing, so what tweeted out, you do understand that most of the mainstream media doesn't know what brand in is. >> And he didn't need legislation because I didn't have legislation, I said close the border. We had the safest border in history. In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great. And by the way, who endorsed me for president. But I won't say that, but they endorsed me for president. Brandon, just speak to him. [ Laughter ] >> That's so brand and I agree. [ Laughter ] >> The textures are just slipping. It's like a Saturday night with the oldie show. Everybody's slipping in their greatest head. Can you play the Brandon cut? Can you play the 15% unemployment cut? Oh, my God, 844, 542, 444, 542, 442. Let's see. You may have heard me talk about Raycon's everyday earbuds before and thought, wow, the same audio quality I expect from the big guys, but at half the price. Sounds pretty good, but if you haven't pulled the trigger on a pair of Raycon's, how is the time to check them out? Because they just launched their upgraded model of the best-selling everyday earbuds. 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[INTERPOSING VOICES] Go to howiecarshow.com and click Listen. To start streaming Howie Live in crystal clear, high definition. And whispering right in your ear, biz, biz, biz, biz, biz. [MUSIC PLAYING] He's Howie Car. So Jared, as we all know how I'm working, it's Monday morning at 9 o'clock. To the extent that you can't please, just not think about this case this week really quick. So they wanted to go a little longer. They were obviously trying to convince, shall we say, the holdouts to come through with a knot guilty so they could all never have to set foot in that drafty haunted courthouse again. But it was not to be. And so they're going to have to come back to work on Monday. And of course, Independence Day is Thursday. So I can't see it going beyond Tuesday, or certainly not beyond Wednesday. I mean, and they're not going to be in on the 4th of July. That's for sure. 844, 542. 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Cut, let's have cut 12. Able to write wipe out his debt, we'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. We finally beat Medicare. Well, he's right, he did beat Medicare, he beat it to death, and he's destroying Medicare. That was perfect. That was perfect. It's like they say in basketball, moving without the ball. The shot will come to you. If you just keep moving around, don't force the shot. And Joe's the great athlete. You know, he has a six handicap. He's definitely got a handicap. Can we all agree on that? Okay. Now, this is a strange one. He's a true crime expert too. He's discovered a new category of crime that none of us had ever heard of before, cut 15. Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in to talk about that. But here's the deal. There's a lot of young women to be raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters, by, oh, it's just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. And they try to arrest them on the cross-state line. Thank you. It's an epidemic, women being raped by their sisters. Great story, grandpa. Could have used a vampire though. Thank you, Mr. President. May we quote you on that one. Bill, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Bill. Hey, Howie. I just wanted to point out that once again, the legacy of the media has lied to us after talking puppet up there, it is amazing to me that time and time again, whether it's vaccines or whatever the media just lies for him. And now they're all backtracking. Yeah. I know they're pretending like this is the darnest thing we ever saw last night. I thought he was in great shape, Martha. What the same hill happened to Joe Biden? I thought he was at the top of his class at the sheltered workshop. It's just they knew, they knew, they just went, how about, they lie about everything. This is something, you know, I think this could be a bigger lie that Joe Biden is, as a sentient human being, this could be a bigger lie than the Russian collusion hoax. The Russian collusion hoax was over after four years. This thing's been going on for how many years? Five, six years? They've been pretending that he was a legitimate human. He still had a functioning brain. David, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, David. Go ahead, David. You there? Mark, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Mark. Hey, Howie, listen, there's no grief in it, and incumbent president would debate at this time. They'd wait till October. They did this on purpose. It's an easy way to let the donor class and his handlers to get him out of there. And if you notice that Snake Newsom was greasing around the crowd early on, and you know, that's what they're trying to do. He was a surrogate, apparently, you know, the surrogates, they have these spin rooms, both sides and any debate anywhere at any level. And so the Democrats have one, the Republicans have one. So all the Trump people, Vance and Donald, all the guys that want to be vice president, they were all out there like at 1032 or whatever it ended. And the Biden people didn't come out until much later for obvious reasons. You know, they were probably getting shots from Dr. Feelgood, though, you know, so that they could go out there and lie. But Gavin Newsom was one of the guys that was picked to speak for him. He is a greasy looking guy. You know, we talked about Joe Biden didn't get the memo about not saying illegal aliens. 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I would bet my life on it in favor of not guilty at this point. I think that the tell was that they came back at 3.30. And Auntie Bev sent them a letter saying, you guys can get out of here if you want. Now, if you weren't close to reaching a verdict, at that point, wouldn't you take her up on her offer and go home but wouldn't do it not be the sensible thing to do? Unless you thought, maybe we can sway this person. Maybe we're pretty close. Maybe we can get this over with. Maybe we don't have to extend this till Monday. So a lot of us had hope when that happened, but then they came back and they were still deadlocked. So it's got to be 11 to 1. So while they're way-- while they were asking for an extra 45 minutes, unless it was 11 to 1. Yeah, so I've been trying to tell people not to get that concerned about it. And the most they're going to get is a hung jury. And personally, I can't see they could ever try this case again. Well, there's a reason that when the hung jury idea was proposed, the jury came back and they said, we can't reach a verdict, we're deadlocked. And the Commonwealth said, well, no, send them back. And it was the defense that said, well, sure, I guess that's it. I guess we'll take a hung jury then. And there's a reason for that. Because the Commonwealth knows that the fact that they can get a single juror, they're like, wait a minute. It's deadlocked? We found one person that thinks she's guilty. That thinks she's guilty? Great. We're not letting these people go home. We're never going to find somebody like this again. They don't want to do this all over again. They know a jurial on the winter. So I don't know. It just seems like that the-- again, this would be humiliating to Michael Morrissey if he were not to go through this process again, if he had to admit that a cop was killed in his county and his police force, his personal police force. Because these guys don't go to barracks, like you know, Charlton or Framingham, one of those. They worked out of his office on Shama Street in Canton. They worked for him. They're a representative. And they're the ones. If they are the reason, this sloppy police work, is the reason that a cop was killed in that town. And no one felt responsible for it. That's political suicide, even for a guy who wins a 90% of the vote every time. Yeah, you know, the thing is, too. I mean, I think you said this on your live tweet earlier today. There's no way Proctor is going to be around in six months or a year as a state cop. Sergeant Lukanek, he may be gone, too. You know, the guy that was sending the likes to all those horrible messages that Proctor was sending out. And they haven't checked the DNA on John O'Keefe's clothes. You think they're going to insist on that the next time out. They're going to try to find out whose DNA is on those clothes. I mean, there's a lot of things that they could go with. And plus, a lot of the Canton cops that were involved in this, they're going to-- they are very shortly, I think, going to be jammed up in the Sandra Burchmore case, the 23-year-old pregnant woman who died. You know, I mean, they're going to-- the cops-- they're not going to get any of the cops in this case aren't going to get any cleaner between now and then the date of a next trial if they tried to have another one. I just don't see it in the cards. But on the other hand, she doesn't deserve to have-- to be left in limbo like this, you know? Right, right, right. Nobody does. I mean, let's get this over. I mean, not on how many hours it's been now where maybe-- I think she's a fast Kyle, written half hours at this point, like, how long is this going to go on for? Monday has to be the last day. And time is on the side of Karen Reid. It is not on the side of the Commonwealth. What I mean by that is that, you know, if this drags out six months, every day Karen Reid is free and out of jail is a good day for her, right? Whereas the Commonwealth, like I said, every day that goes on is a day that an indictment can come down from the federal government. Is it a day that one of their witnesses gets jammed up at something else? Is it a day that more information can come out proven that's one of these people lied? And, you know, since it goes, time is not on the side. There's a reason Adam Longley's like, great. We found one idiot who thinks that she's guilty. Let's send him back. We should be grateful for that. Yeah, you know, I think Brian Higgins, the ATF guy, you know, that he had the federal proper, you know, they were going to kind of deal with him and he backed away from it. I mean, I think they still got him between a rock and a hard place, too, on using federal property and, you know, throwing away his phone, being drunk all the time. I mean, he's, well, he's all done as an ATF agent, but he could have a criminal liability as well. Somebody's, somebody, one of these people is going to crack, I think. And, well, I got to ask you something though, Turtle Boy, about, you know, people are talking about this. It's, you know, this had become a, like, the, you know, the lawyers and Karen Reed have become celebrities. And then this picture went around the world of Alan Jackson and Karen Reed in the North End, I guess, was taken last night. Why don't you tell people about that and your take on it? 'Cause, you know, it's, you know, the way these, there are all these chat rooms operating around the trial. And some of the people who aren't familiar with following criminal trials, this is their first one, they're kind of flipping out about this thing. Tell people what happened. - Yeah, yeah. You know, this is what's called the distraction. It's called Look the Other Way, as Alan Jackson said in his speech, Look the Other Way. It looks like there's a picture that came out, apparently they went out to dinner, and it looks like a picture of kind of Alan Jackson kind of, like, embracing her from behind. Now, I don't know what's going on in that picture, right? It's kind of like, it sort of looks like motion photographs where it's like a second long, and you can watch it. And it also looks like in that picture that there's some sort of, you know, service worker there taking a picture of what appears to be Craig Bates, the IT guy, and David, you could see David yet, he's risking it. So I don't know what, maybe, it kind of looks like, Karen Reed was about to walk into the frame, and Alan Jackson might have held their back, but it looks, I don't know, like, a lovey-dovey way. I just find it hard to believe that Alan Jackson, and who's a married man, is out there, roping Karen Reed in public, and being a affectionate in front of his total, because I find that hard to believe. So, and again, the more important part is, I just don't care. I don't care at all. I don't care if it were true, if they were an item, which they're probably not. It's like, but I don't care. None of this explains, like, Jennifer McCabe Googled how long did Diane called at 2.27 AM? None of this changes the fact that the arctic guys, these brilliant crash daddies got up there, and they said straight up that John O'Keefe could not have been hit by a car. So I don't care about any pictures of them going out to dinner or whatever, it doesn't matter to me. It's just a distraction. - Yeah, I tend to agree. You know, if you were going out on a romantic evening, do you take your, do you take your co-workers with you, or on the date with the woman whose picture is on the front page of every newspaper and leads every news, local TV newscast? Doesn't seem to make much sense. - Right. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it's just like, you know, a lot of people were saying it was a fake. It's like, and I think that's the wrong attitude to take, because by saying it's fake, if it's not, then you're kind of saying, well, there's something wrong with this picture. My take on it is I don't care. I don't care about the picture. It's stupid. I know the story of the other picture. I don't want to know the story of the other picture. I don't care what those two do, right? And I assume it's nothing, but I just don't, even if it wasn't, I wouldn't care. Like, none of this would matter to me. It's the same crap they do with Trump. You know, it's just like, they constantly bring off his personal life. It's like, who cares? I don't care about any of this. The country was running fine. Like, it's the same crap. - Yeah, and Michael Proctor's sister was promoting this photograph pretty heavily, wasn't she? Michael Proctor's sister isn't just the one who was, who was going to be the, he was the conduit for the quote unquote gift that he was going to receive a staple after he completed his investigation and kept the McAlberts out of it. - I think she said it was disgusting. Meanwhile, she was the one that Michael Proctor was texting when he said that I hope that she kills herself and she said something's the effect of, yeah, that would be, that would be great. Yeah, so like, I don't really care. The fact that any of these people, like Courtney Proctor has the audacity to even use her maiden name on social media that she's not ashamed of it. She tells you everything about how these people operate, how they think they're untouchable, and they think that, you know, it's just, they don't care about their blatant hypocrisy and how they look to the public, they have no shame. - You think she'd wanna change your middle name to from Courtney Proctor to something better, like Courtley Mussolini? - Something like that. - Anything's an upgrade, anything's an upgrade over that. - Good Lord, so they're-- - That means we're so good. - So it's, someone just texted and said, do you think the jurors will be more or less amused at having to come back Monday due to this holdout? Well, I don't think they're gonna be, but you know, the thing is, maybe the person's gonna say, well, you know, they can't be any more angry at me now than they were on Friday afternoon when I ruined their weekend. So maybe it'll steal whoever it is, but you're pretty sure it's a woman. I mean, why would a woman go against that, go with another woman being framed by a bunch of guys? - I could be totally wrong, Ali. I mean, I'm just wrong. All I know is that like every person, almost every person I've seen who has been, you know, yells loudly that Karen Reed is guilty and lying is a woman. Like it's overwhelmingly female. Like five DCF moms showed up today out of nowhere, holding three, you know, Karen Reed, the killer and stuff like that, all, in all five of them, one of them was the fake victim, howie, that lied and sent me to jail. She showed up to where I was today to kick me out of the buffer zone, holding a sign that said Karen Reed is guilty. So like, it's just weird. It's just like, it's a trend I've noticed that almost everybody who says that Karen Reed is guilty is a woman. So I could be sexist here. I could be a massage therapist. I don't know, but it just is one jury in particular who sits, you know, in the front and the right, who appeared to be crying today and just seems upset and seems a little moody. I don't know. I just have a feeling I could be completely wrong now. - So, Turtle Boy, you're telling me that this afternoon outside the courthouse, there was a ratchet reunion? - Oh yeah, it was happening about one o'clock. A woman by the name of, she goes, you're a crispy panties is a nickname, her name's K. Peter. She's a former employee of mine who's obsessed with me and just has taken the position that Karen Reed is guilty because I've taken the position that Karen Reed is innocent. And she's assembled a small gaggle of DCF moms, all of whom have lost their children in the state and have substance abuse issues and court records. Kate's actually being charged with witness intimidation against me right now. She has befriended that ex of mine that put me, lied and put me into jail. And then like them and three other ratchets showed up today, holding side saying Karen Reed is guilty in order to evict me from the buffer zone. I had to go, I was in the free speech zone and they showed up to kick me out of the free speech zone and send me back to the courthouse. It was crazy. - Datum, Massachusetts in Norfolk County has a free speech zone. You ever thought you'd get to that point in Massachusetts, the cradle of the revolution. And now we have to have free speech zones. What's the white claw hard seltzer? That's Jill Daniels drink of choice, isn't it? - Yeah, the drink of choice, the most ratchet, Harry. That in Tennessee and fireball. - Yeah, I was gonna say, one of the guys here at the fun spot arcade just gave me a key chain, a white claw hard seltzer key chain. It's got you, I think it's got your name on it, turtle boy. - I think you're gonna, I think you're-- - You're pulling your wallet out. (laughing) - I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you this the next time I see you. So nine o'clock tomorrow, if it comes back, anything going on this weekend, that he, you plan on having dinner anywhere at the back up to the Sunday special, let's see if MacArthur, I think-- - I don't wanna trigger the McAlbrid, so I'll take the weekend off from Canton and just enjoy myself, so back out of Monday, I guess. - Okay, so Helina Rafferty, the chief of police in Canton, you just heard that, you don't have to bring in an overtime crew on Sunday afternoon. Turtle boy is not gonna be coming into town for the ricotta special. All right, turtle boy, where can you get your show? When is your show gonna be on again? - Nine o'clock tomorrow night, turtle boy live to jail. - All right, thank you turtle boy, and I hope we'll be talking on Monday and saying it's all over, I hope so anyway. Thank you, that's Aiden Carney, AKA turtle boy, and so the jury has gone home for the weekend, no verdict, they will be back at work, deliberating on Monday morning at nine o'clock. I'm Howie Carr. - The Howie Carr show returns after this. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) - Howie Carr is back. - 978, how much do jurors get paid? I think they get 50 bucks a day, they don't get nearly enough. I mean, that's another thing. I mean, how many weeks and months do you get off? - You know, it used to be, oh five weeks. - Five days. - Five days, if somebody is, we have to pay five days, if they get, what they used to do in Massachusetts is, you would get selected as a juror for two weeks, and so everybody got screwed. And so then some of the suburban counties went to like one day, one trial. You had to go one day, and if you got picked for the trial, you had to run for the whole trial, but if you didn't get picked on that one day, you were out. So it was a much better system than Suffolk County, so that the whole state went to that system. But again, if you get picked for the trial, you really are screwed. One of the textors, one of the people who's here at the fun spot arcade, was saying, you know, is it possible that there's someone from Canton that's a ringer on the jury? But Norfolk County has 27 communities. Canton isn't even one of the bigger communities, and there's like, there's Wellesley, Brookline, Quincy's the big town, Braintree, Milton. You know, there are a lot of places, it's very doubtful that it's a Canton person holding it up. My money would be on one of those Quincy hacks. They got a lot of payroll patriots. Quincy, Quincy is a pretty bent community. They're the ones that just gave the mayor a raise to, I think, $360,000 a year. It's nice, huh? God. Dennis, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Dennis. - So how are we getting back to the debate last night? I haven't heard the term post-debate, but I hope that last night's performance has sent to the grave that stupid phrase, cheap fakes. (laughing) You know what, that's a really good point, Dennis. I think some people were tweeting out last night, boy, they're doing a really good job with the cheap fakes tonight. It's amazing how many things they've nailed him on. Yeah, that's a really excellent point. I mean, this is how duplicitous they are. Being another nice word for lie, you know? They lied. Everybody knows that those were, that everything that's been used against Biden, not used against him, it's reality. You go to the White House website, the official transcriptions, and they have to, it's just like, it looks like, you know, a seventh graders, you know, term paper, so all these scratch marks through it from what he meant, from what he said, as opposed to what he meant to say. It's made it a lot easier to pull the Biden cuts every day, so you just go down the chart and you see, look for the black mark, and you know, you gotta cut. Three lines later, there's another big black mark on how we car.