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The Hackiest Hacks are Running this Debate & the Chump Line | 6.26.25 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

Dana Bash is a hack's hack, and Jake Tapper is King of the Hacks. This debate will be Trump vs. CNN AND BIDEN, not just Trump vs. Biden.

Duration:
37m
Broadcast on:
26 Jun 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

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Oh, spaghetti, oh! From swabs, hacks, and moonbaats beware. It's... ♪♪♪ Howie Car... Welcome to the Howie Car Show, 844-542-42. We have VIPs in the house. How was that Italian spread from Monica's in the north end with George Mendoza? It was fantastic. Sausages and peppers and potatoes, and even the broccoli was delicious. He knows how to cook it, and it's great. One of the VIPs from Springfield, Mrs. Murphy's, wasn't open. It only opens on Thursdays now, Thursdays and the weekends. You know, 'cause no one works anymore, you know? Monday, Wednesday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, death. Traffic is down. So we got some... What, Bessie's? Bessie? No, donut dip. Donut dip. Donut dip. Donut dip in West Springfield. It's very good, though. Very good. So this is our lucky day. And thanks again to George Mendoza and Monica's the best Italian place in the north end. Six One Seven says, "Ante Bev's remarks were so obnoxious. He's the judge. You just heard her... You know, I'm not trying to... I'm tired in it. I'm tired, and I'm not changing the form, an hour later. We're gonna change the forms, okay? Don't laugh. She's... God almighty. You know, if your name wasn't Ante Bev, someone else had another suggestion for a new nickname for Broomstick Bev. So Six One Seven says, "Ante Bev's remarks were so obnoxious, like she was only adding to the request... the request that not guilty boxes because she had to make some other changes, like adding a semicolon." So juvenile, so dumb, so pathetic. I would love to see her IQ score. How did she become a judge? I could explain it to you in two words. Deval Patrick. Also, career hack. Second generation career hack. She's from Quincy. You know, Elsa's from Quincy, Meatball, Morrissey. It's all... it's... it's a cesspool. It's a cesspool. Is she from Ken? No, she's from Quincy originally. I think she lives in Norwell now, and I believe she has a cottage on the Cape. Of course she does. Don't they all? It's part of the hack package. And I said I was... I didn't realize that the chiefs of police, like Helena Rafferty from Ken, worked details until the last couple of weeks. She works for the ones in Foxborough. And 508 tells me the retired chiefs from Mansfield and Brockton used to work details at the Xfinity Center regularly. It was a news story one summer. All right. 844-542-42. We have some of the... some of the VIPs say this is their favorite part of the show. The chump line. Here it comes. So, Jamal Bowman lost his primary. Apparently when they were in the voter booth, too many of his followers must have pulled the fire alarm instead of the voting lever. Fire alarm? I am the fire alarm. He said he was in the zone. Someone said, yeah, he was in the zone .15 to .25. Yeah, I think so. It's a good thing they don't have a breathalyzer before you make your concession or victory speeches. Come on, man. Of course I'm spending the week at Kent David. You're ready to debase my professor of congressmen Donald Hump. Donny Priscilla gave me all the questions in advance. So, I'll know everything that's going to be asked by moderator Howard K. Smith while we're live on the Dumont network. Thank you. Someone said, do you think he's recording the meet TV matlock bench on Thursday night? I checked out the... it looks like kind of a weak lineup for him. I don't think he's a big, my favorite Martian guy. And they do have a Perry Mason on late on Thursday night. But 11.30... I don't care if the debate lasts till 10.30. There's no way he's awake at 11.30 to watch Perry Mason. Today's Trump line is brought to you by Tobias Hearing Center in Quincy, Massachusetts. They help me get fitted with a pair of state-of-the-art hearing aids and they can help you, too. Request an appointment online and tell them how he sent you. Visit TobiasHearing.com for more information. That's TobiasHearing.com. So, Your Honor, you're saying that if it's a guilty, we are to use our left hand and make a mark while standing on our right foot. If it's not guilty, we should make a mark with our right hand standing on our left foot while doing a spin around in the circle. Is that correct? You know, I don't know why you damn people are making such a big deal out of this just because we're trying to send your client to jail for the rest of her life for a crime she didn't commit to protect some crooked cops. What's the big deal? Mistakes were made. I don't know why Joe would have a problem with doing a drug test. You know, back in the day when he was the Puerto Rican truck driver, he must have taken a drug test for a CDL license. You know, that was the... You know, when Trump said anywhere anytime and the DNC came back and said, "You're going to be on our network with our shells," et cetera, et cetera, the only thing Trump said is, "I want a drug test for both candidates." And that was a non-starter. I wonder why. I wonder why. This just in, on behalf of all residents in the town of Canton, Matthew McCabe has sent a letter to the International Olympic Committee requesting that grab-ass be recognized as an Olympic event this summer in Paris. We're going to retweet something from the surveillance video with the waterfall from 1157 when all the drunks were leaving that night. And Higgins looks very animated in his dislike and distaste for John O'Keefe. He gives him the finger even. We'll send that out. It's pretty telling video. 3-3-9 says, "Is Auntie Bev going through menopause?" I think he means menopause. She's 63, I looked her up, so I think those days are behind her. Thursday nights debate has a lot of potential for many different drinking games. Something tells me Ted Kennedy won't be the only one hung over Friday morning. Convicted felon is one. How about that, convicted felon? That's definitely a drinking game. Donut Dip is a great donut, says Rambo 4-1-3. Limerick guy seconds and I've been to Mrs. Murphy's end donut dip. And donut dip wins easily. Oh, that's good. That's good. I got my eye on one of those chocolate ones. If there's some chocolate something, I always have my eye on that, if there's a choice. Even with support from that bird brain AOC, Bowman still couldn't find a path to victory. The fire alarm caused him some harm, but then came his chant from the river to the sea. You know what? That is so true. 844-542-42. This is really sort of a telling, a telling comment from his, you know, Enveno Veritas. This is Enveno Veritas from Jamal Bowman last night. 8. The Muslim community. From Yonkers. To San Francisco. To Dearborn, Michigan. To St. Louis. To Chicago. To Long Ellen. To New Jersey. Surrounded me. This entire race. With protection. With love. With gratitude. Just not enough votes. Didn't get too many votes out of St. Louis or New Jersey or San Francisco or Dearborn Diddy. Looks like the squad is going to be a man. I mean a person showing next season. Jamal Bowman. Not just another pretty face. I'll wait. Richard Nixon calling. I wish I had Adam Lally as my attorney instead of that bloody turncoat John Dean. They should have never used my tapes. They were never intended for public consumption. After all, they were recorded in a safe space. And for the record, I am not a proctor. I like that one. When he said he was Richard Nixon, I thought he was going to say. And they gave me grief for saying in my concession speech you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore. That's all he said. And he heard about it for years. In theaters this winter, starring Steve Gutenberg and the ghost of Bubba Smith Police Academy. Can this film is not yet read? Now the police academy, you know, they learn at the state police academy, they learn ethics. It's one of the shortest courses there is. Allie, let me be the first one to call for a ceasefire in Westchester County. From the Hudson River to the sea, Westchester County must be free. That was your last Chumpline message. Thank you for calling Howie Carr. You chump. 844-542-42. That was it for the Chumpline today. The Chumpline is the recorded voicemail message service of the Howie Carr show you can call and leave a message at any time between the hours of 1 and 4 p.m. Eastern time every weekday. The Chumpline number, if you wish to leave such a message is 844-542-42. Press 2 for the Chumpline. Leave your message. We may or may not play it at this time each weekday. If you didn't hear your message or you just want to listen to a second brand new Chumpline every evening, we have one week nights. It's posted at around 7 o'clock. It's called Chop Chumps, the second Chumpline of the day. That's where we put the messages we didn't have room or time for just now. Chop Chumps, the second Chumpline of the day. You can get it wherever you get your Howie Carr show podcast. Today's Chumpline is brought to you by Tobias Hearing Center in Quincy, Massachusetts. They help me get fitted with a pair of state-of-the-art hearing aids and they can help you too. Request an appointment online and tell them how we sent you. Visit TobiasHearing.com for more information. That's TobiasHearing.com. Allie, let me be the first one to call for a ceasefire in Westchester County. Are they going to build a pier in the Hudson River so that they can get in humanitarian aid into Yonkers and white planes? We will never stand for the killing and bombing of children in the books or Mount Vernon or Yonkers. The humanitarian toll in Yonkers has been devastating. 844-542-42. I'm Howie Carr. The Howie Carr show. [music] He's Howie Carr. Has the IDF found any tunnels in Mount Vernon or white planes? Just asking for a friend. 844-500-4242-844-500-4242. So it's time for the daily poll question. Raycon just launched their upgraded model of the best-selling everyday airbuds. Now you can get the features you know and love, but also active noise cancellation, ergonomic design, and the multi-point connectivity. Get 15% off plus free shipping at byraycon.com/owie by Raycon.com/owie. Jared, what's the poll question or what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at HowieCarShow.com, is which Donald Trump do you want to see at the debate tomorrow? Vintage Donald Trump fire and brimstone, laid-back Trump, let Biden babble, or a mix of both depending on how bad the three-on-one debate format goes? I want laid-back Trump. Up to 32% now who want laid-back Trump, 61% want a mix of both and 7% want vintage Trump. There's a new story out saying that they're running Operation Trigger Trump, and Biden is, they're trying to train Biden. It's like trying to train a 13-year-old dog that's blind, but they're trying to train him to trigger Trump and get him angry. That's because they figure, I guess they figure that's one of their few chances. It probably is one of their few chances, but again, I mean, can this guy deliver? I don't think so. I don't think so. So that's one reason why I think convicted felon is you'll just hear that over and over again. Just don't respond. Don't complain, never explain. Those are four words to live by, not just in politics, but in life. You know, 844-500. Nobody wants Alibi-Aik. It's an old saying from Ring Lardner's baseball writing days. Nobody wants Alibi-Aik. They don't want to hear what happened. Just move on. Biden has got a lot more to answer for than Donald J. Trump. That's for sure. Lawrence, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Lawrence. How is Lawrence calling on your 1603 tax-free number from the state of New Hampshire? Yes. I want to apologize for fake Tapper. He's a Dartmouth alum, but I've heard that he might have checked the box. Dartmouth is a land grant college, and they allow people 25% Indian to come in with less than great. Wait a second. Are you telling me that Jake Tapper is a fake Indian? Well, it's possible. I mean, who do I know? The news doesn't report. Well, we do know he was on the payroll of Chelsea Clinton's mother-in-law. What more do you need to know? And if you want any, you know, a superseding indictment, the count first is the first count is that he went out with Monica Lewinsky. Well, that's his journalistic experience in a nutshell. You called out Caroline Levitt. Kudos to you. She is our CD one candidate. Oh, I'm sorry. Chris Pappas won when they busted in people from St. Anselms. Her alma mater, where she started the Young Republicans club for the first time in Gopstown, New Hampshire. I mean, I'm sorry we lost Caroline. On the other hand, isn't she great? She is. She's fantastic. She was a great host on the show, filling in for Grace last year. She was a great saleswoman on the show. She's just a, she's really outstanding. You know, sometimes, you know, when adversity turns out to be a great opportunity. And if she gets to be the press secretary for President Trump next year, I mean, this, it's better than being. I think it's, there's more power than being a freshman congresswoman, but I'm sorry she lost too. It's, it's just a shame because Pappas is an empty suit, you know, and never, never should have gotten, gotten reelected. Thanks for the call, Lawrence. 844 500 42 42. I'm how we car. You know, all these illegal aliens coming into the country and getting into trouble. They've missed some of the lessons that all of us grew up with like never bring a hunting knife to a gunfight. The latest example in Denver. Last week, police officers shot and killed a 52 year old man pretending to be a woman named Miguel Tapia. No, not the Chilean singer. And yes, a lot of news outlets still call him a woman. Miguel Tapia Tapia was on the intersection of Broadway and Lawrence holding a hunting knife and apparently yelling angrily. Cops tried to get him hurt to drop the knife and instead he advanced on them, forcing them to shoot him dead after two attempts to incapacitate him with a taser fail to slow him down. Naturally, during a press conference about the shooting, some journalist act to ask the police spokeswoman if Tapia is being trans and apparently homeless or houseless as they say and leftist influence the officer's decision to shoot the guy. You just know the spokesman is thinking woman, he was charging at them with a knife. He was a knife, but he's a, because this guy fits into two categories that the left considers more valuable in Americans lives. Only people on X are getting the details out that he's a guy that he's in the country illegally to the wider public. And Google isn't displaying much on this story. So, again, a warning to all of our muchachos and amigos coming across the border to get on welfare. What's the Spanish word for knife? Never bring a knife over to a gunfight, senior 844. Mr Garcia is assimilated, he is an American citizen and he would never get into the same kind, and I don't think he would ever dress as a woman either. I love it. Dan, you're next with Howie Carr, go ahead Dan. Hey Howie, thanks for taking the call. Yeah, a knife, transgender and illegal alien. I mean, another, another Congress person bites the dust. He was one of his big supporters. He was one of Jamal Bowman's big supporters from Denver, a town he forgot to mention when he was going through the list of his big support of his big supporters. Go ahead. Well, I'll tell you what, thank God he voted early, so that ballot is on its way here on a FedEx truck, an unmarked FedEx truck. Listen, you know, I'm listening to these clips you're playing. These people are mentally ill, you know, and you know what it reminds me of, because of this is what I called on. You know, they used to ambush Trump outside. Remember, and he'd be leaving the White House heading for, you know, Marine One heading for the Chopper. And so we had hours and hours of this footage of him standing in front of Marine One taking these questions, you know, these gotcha questions over and over again. And he would be like, you're all terrible people, you know, and then he would show mastery of every topic that they ambushed him with. Right. I am horribly offended at the fact that our President of the United States is like on vacation, just to handle a debate coming up, where they're trying to coach him, how not to fall over, or, you know, now Joe, don't go catatonic, you know, don't go catatonic between answering questions. Like he can't handle. Can you imagine? I know I know I say it too many times. Can you imagine? But can you imagine if Trump took a week or 10 days off to prepare for a debate? Just went, just went MIA and disappeared. You'd never hear the end of it. It's business and preparing for the debate. He's also, he's also like taking all these legal problems and challenges they're throwing at him. The guy's doing it all and running for President. You know what I mean? It's like, how could there be any comparison between these two people? You got the, the Lord Emperor of the free world is on sabbatical just to prepare for a 90 minute debate with a candidate. How could the guy not have the basic working knowledge to answer questions for himself? He just has no idea? No, he doesn't. And his only, and apparently his, his only strategy is to, is to bait Trump, the challenger. The incumbent president is only, his only recourse to getting through the debate is to, is to bait the challenger. Do you think that he, because he can't, and you know the other thing too? They really, it really is going to be three on one. Three on one is Democrat fun. They're going to, they're going to ask Trump follow up questions, you know, and they're going to ask him again as Dan said, got your question. Do you think that 2020 election was stolen? Are you going to, are you going to renounce plans to pardon the insurrectionists of January 6th? I mean, none of that for, for Joe. How tough was it to get all those people back working after, after Iron Man bad, engineered the, the panic and caused all those, all those terrible people to, to put on red hats and come out of the woods in Charlottesville? You know, I mean, it's, it, it's going to be totally in your face. And, and again, you couldn't have picked two hackier hacks, Jake Tapper and Dana Bush. They are hacks, hacks. They've never been real reporters. They're not real reporters. They've, they've never covered a fire. They've never covered a county commissioner's meeting. They've never been on scene of an auto accident. They, you know, I mean, this is basic stuff, but, but the, the qualifications, the, the, the career trajectory now in for state run media is you, you go to one of these, one of these legacy colleges. You know, because you got a trust fund, a daddy gave a building, and then you get a job as a co-holder for, for, for Chelsea Clinton's mom, or you, or you marry, you marry someone who's in the Obama administration. And, and then you just, you just start taking, taking handouts from the DNC. That's it. That's it. None of these people have ever thought about being journalists in the old traditional sense of going out knocking on doors. Hey, I don't like Peggy Noonan, the columnist for the Wall Street Journal, because she was so nasty to Rush when he died. And, you know, she used to hang out with him and she just turned on him and just wrote this rotten stuff. But she actually had a good piece last week and she was talking about the turmoil at the Washington Post because they all want to just be profta. They don't want to be a newspaper. They, they are the newspaper. They want to continue to be just a, a, a propaganda sheet for the Democrat Party and it's not working because you don't need to. They've already got the New York Times. So they have to go in a different trajectory, but nobody wants to because they would actually, actually have to work, you know, and expend shoe leather and, and, you know, reach out to people who wear red MAGA caps and they don't want to do that. None of them do. So she was just saying that they, you know, they, when they're complaining at the, at the Washington Post, she said, nobody ever talks about the, the old thrill. And I know this thrill. The thrill of going out and knocking on doors and prying out stuff that they don't want to you to have and busting the story and getting a, getting the no comments so that you can put it into the paper and not have to worry about being sued. And then just seeing the paper roll off the press or pop up online. I mean, it's, it's, it's a real thrill and no, none of these people have ever felt it because it's all just a handout. It's like writing a, it's like writing a press release. They're writing press releases for the most loathsome excuses for human beings on the planet like Jamal Bowman, like Bernie Sanders, like Joe Biden. That's, they, they just alibi for them. They, they used to write, even if they, even if they were democrat sheets, like in chap aquatic. A lot of the, a lot of the mainstream media did real reporting. I, you know, I found out about it when I was writing a Kennedy Babylon. I went back and I looked and I saw these, they wrote really tough stories about, about Ted Kennedy, which they would, wouldn't have written 30 years later and which they would never in a million years right today. It's just, it's, it's so pathetic. And then they'll be on full display, two of their, two of the princes of the state run media prints in a princess will be there tomorrow night. Eight, four, four, five hundred, forty two, forty two, eight, six, so 90 minutes on his feet without any breaks makes me wonder if it's a setup he suffered some kind of medical issues in his forced to withdraw. I, I read today, I thought he was going to sit down, but I read also read that they were, I thought they were, didn't you think he's sitting down? Yeah, I thought he was sitting down, but today I heard that they're trying to train him to stand up for 90 minutes. I mean, that sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. Can you do that under the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution? I mean, how, how do you train someone to stand up? I mean, when they be better off, like, let's get some strings, make those strings invisible. We'll keep them up like this. Be like, like Pinocchio. And his nose, I hope he's not in his nose. It'll be longer than, longer than the Hudson River. The bridge over the Hudson River. Eight, four, four, five hundred, forty two, forty two. Gary, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Gary. Hey, Howie, how are you? Good. Does it mean that Carmel is running the country now that Joe is in the hang? Well, I mean, he's, again, I was looking over my, my Biden notes for my column for tomorrow. And he, he said, first of the, he said, and now I'd like to introduce the first black vice press, black female vice president of the United States. President Kamala Harris. So I guess she is, you know, he's called to the press. How many times has he called to the president, Gary? Many times, hasn't he? Twelve thousand times. Yeah. Hey, listen, I wanted to remind you what this is the anniversary of Earl Wilson pitching the no hitter. Is it really? Wow. Yeah. That's, that's my famous, that's my famous story in hitman, which I, I never believed in the FBI. I didn't believe it either when Johnny Montorano told it. Earl Wilson was a, was a pitcher for the, for the Red Sox later traded to the Detroit Tigers, but he, he got, he, Johnny Montorano on this place on Basin Street. And they all, a lot of the players hung out there. And so Earl Wilson got staggeringly drunk with Johnny Montorano and some of the, some of the strippers or some of the, the, the showgirls at the, at the club that on Saturday night. And so, so, so they went back and they, they passed out, they passed out on some play. I don't forget where, who has in the back, in the back bay. And so like Johnny was on a little sprawled out on a couch and like eight o'clock or so. So he, someone started shaking him and it's Wilson. And Wilson's barely alive too. Wilson goes, Johnny, you got to drive me to Fenway. I'm pitching. Johnny said, we were up till five drinking. How can you pitch? He said, I'm the starting pitcher. I'm the starting pitcher. So Johnny put, Johnny drags him down to the car. He can barely walk. And so it's not far. They're in the back bay. Takes him over to Fenway Park. By the time he gets, gets there, Earl Wilson has passed out. So he goes around to the back of the, back of Fenway Park and there's a, there's this green door. It opens up. And so, so Johnny drags Wilson out and then starts knocking on the door and just knocks on it hard enough. But he wants to run away because he'll be, he figures he'll be arrested for killing the, the starting pitcher for the Red Sox. So, so Earl Wilson is lying out on the ground outside, outside on the street on the sidewalk. And the, and the, they come out. And, and Johnny, when he, when he sobers up and says, oh man, this is a solid one. This is, his father always told him, you know, always, if you got information, bet on it. And so he gets all this money and bets against the Red Sox, bets against the Red Sox, bets everything against the Red Sox. Well, you know the rest of the story now. Earl Wilson pitched a no hitter. And he hit a home run because they still had the pitchers in those days batting. And Johnny loses like 5,000 bucks. This is like 1963 or so. That's tons of money in 1963. And that, that night Earl Wilson comes into the basin street and he's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. He drinks on me. And Johnny, Johnny is there and he's, Johnny is there and he's thinking, I'm, how am I ever going to get out of this mess? Earl says, my man, Johnny, what, why are you so mad? I just pitched a no hitter today and Johnny Mariano tells him what he did. And Earl says, why didn't you tell me? I want to throw in the game for you, Johnny. And when Johnny Mariano was being debriefed by the feds, they, he told him that story. They thought it was BS. They looked it up. It was true. It was a true story. That's, so this is the anniversary of Earl Wilson's famous no hitter. I'm Howie Carr. Adding your two cents is easier than ever. Call Howie at 844-542-42 or text the word Howie followed by your message to 617-213-1066. Howie Carr is back. 844-542-42. Let's play another Bowman cut. Again. This, this is your brain on alcohol. Cut six. I'm sorry if I forgot you. I'm coming off the top of my head. But I just want to thank you all so much. And I want to go back to Tyka for a second. Hold on. Hold on. Before I go back to Tyka. Actually, yeah, let me start with Tyka. So, even though A-pack in their affiliates, don't boo. I know we want to boo them. Don't boo. Boo! That was the, that was the Captain Morgan spiced rum talking. Jameson and Ginger. Cut 12. There's a lot of other seats to run for. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of other seats. I'm just saying, Pat, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Pat. Hi, darling. How you doing? This is Pat from Pete Town. We've spoken before. Yes. I wanted to make a comment and I'm curious about this. Jamal Bowman, did he put, is it on the record that he called the attack on October 7th, the hoax? You know what? I think he said the rapes were a hoax. The rapes were a hoax. That is fine. Do you know, I look back at Alex Jones being sued for everything, including what he has left in his underwear drawer, over his having said that what happened at the floor of the shooting was a hoax. You know what? That's a, that is a good point. And I just checked with the wall. But that's out in the universe. Yeah, I did. That is really a good point, Pat. I just checked with the ape. This is what Richie Torres, who's in the next district over, who's a, who's not a nut, even though he's a Democrat. Apak did not deny the Hamas rapes against Israeli women. Jamal Bowman did. Yeah, so he's, he's a denier. He's, how was that any worse than what Alex Jones did? Last week on an NY, WNYC radio show, he said he was sorry for denying the Hamas rapes. Several months ago, he said he regretted a 9/11 truth or poem on his blog in 2011 when he was 35 years old and working as a middle school principal. The Wall Street Journal says voters need a cheat sheet to keep track of Mr. Bowman's apologies. All right, we'll be right back. We'll play some more of these cuts and we'll play some more of Auntie Bev and talk about the, the Karen Reed trial. Verdict, still unknown.