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Episode 1374 - Joe Exotic Calls In LIVE From Prison

Duration:
1h 23m
Broadcast on:
11 Jul 2024
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The Tiger King himself, Joe Exotic, joins the show to talk about not getting pardoned by Trump, why he is suing Netflix over the documentary, if he has found love in jail, and why he wants to go after the justice system after his miscarriage of justice.


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If you're watching right now on YouTube, you see this piece of shit next to me is Gary Faust. Hello, friend of the podcast. Been on the program many, many times. Gary Bear, you called me late last night and said, hey, Joe Exotic is supposed to call me from jail today. Would you guys like to do the show with him? Obviously I said yes, but let's get into to how you even know Joe Exotic in the first place. - Meth, gay. What else is there to ask? - Wow. - How long have you been doing, meth? And how long have you been gay, Gary? - I mean, look at that mustache. - I know. - That tells a story. - Okay, all right, all right. - How do you know Joe Exotic? - Look, first of all, I want everybody to know that I'm not gay. - You have some homosexual tendencies. - I'm not gay. - Let's start with the three things you brought in. - Well, just the three things you brought in. - Saying I'm not gay is the gayest thing somebody could say. - Yeah. - I think. - These glasses? - Yeah. - Was that a gay about that? - This is his coffee cup. - Yeah, it didn't fit under your fucking coffee machine. That's not my fault, I got the wrong side. - Turned to shreds. - Yeah, I mean, that's, you look like Ricky from trailer park boys drinking out of a cat dish. That's what that is. That's not gay. - What is going on here, Tom? - I'm just saying, that's like, I'm defending you right now, asshole. - I'm bringing you guys an exclusive interview and you rent me a part. Jesus Christ. - And then this sandwich, hold up the gas station sandwich 'cause this isn't a bad guy. - Yeah, and you've been getting pretty frequent diarrhea from that, from eating those sandwiches, which is also not gay. A gay man couldn't operate that way. - Yeah. So are you doing this out of being poor then? Is it gay or poor? - Yeah, I quit my job. I stopped working with Cargill, and I quit that job before I got another job. And that was not the right choice. So, I'm pinching pennies. Yes, because I'm poor and I'm not gay. I do take a lot of emphetamines. - Here's why I said gay and then dandered as well, when you're poor, it often turns dudes gay because now you get a suck dick for money. - That's not gay though. - Is it not? - It might be the action might be gay, but it doesn't make you gay. - No, it's homosexual, not gay. - Okay. - No, I think it's just something you've done, right? - No. - Gary, you've sucked a dick for $20, $40 probably? - No. - Not once. - No. - That's not what I'm saying. - Come on. - I'm saying that the end, like a single act of, a single gay act doesn't make you gay anymore than eating Mexican food makes you Mexican, right? - No, it definitely does. - Well, yeah, look. - If you suck one dick, you're gay, right? - Not if it's for money though. - Look, look, look. - You're not doing it for the love of the game. - Yeah, but it's, that's why I'm saying it's homosexual 'cause you're doing sexual activity with someone of the same sex, but it's not gay. Like, you know, showering together in the locker room after playing sports is gay, but that's not homosexual. Sucking you guys dick for drugs is homosexual, but not gay. I think that's pretty self-explanatory. - Okay. - None of that makes any sense. - Yeah, it doesn't. Joel, get and kill the house lights here too, by the way. - I also don't think Gary has the discipline to be a gay man, like grooming and not getting diarrhea. Those are two big parts of being gay man. - That's true, and you stick, and I hate to say this. - I don't have a fucking shower. I showered at the trailer outside. - Yeah, so what happened with your shower? - This fucking piece of shit plumber ripped me off. - Who is it? You can out him. - The Austin Superior Contractors, dude. This guy, he fucking, so both my bathtubs broke at the same time, right? - You know why Ross wants you to do this because once every two to three months, he has an interaction with a contractor that goes awry completely. And it's my position that he's almost always at fault for it. I think it's always him being a dick to him. - It's not. - Then they try to fuck him over there. - Except for that upper decker, that dude left. That was on him. - Yeah, I fell from USA A. - Yeah. - Okay, both my bathtubs broke at the same time. I met this guy in the aisle at Home Depot. He's an electrician, and I was like, hey dude, can you remodel my bathroom for like two grand? - Dude, honestly, I met this guy in the aisle at Home Depot's the gayest thing that's been said on the show ever. - So far, yeah. - It sure is, yeah. - But that feeds into everything that gives you-- - I'm not eight. I'm having a great time on the show so far. (laughing) I'm fucking fantastic. Thanks, guys. - When you say-- - I'm bringing a giant exclusive interview, and yeah, you're a faggot, huh. - When you say your bathroom broke, what do you mean? - The bathtub, literally-- - Are you cracked? - Oh shit. - It wasn't set properly. Both of them at the same time. I'm not making this up. Now, I never make anything up on this show. Ross, Dan. - I have never questioned you. - And so they both broke. I make this guy in the aisle at Home Depot a while back. He's an electrician, but he's like, I'm starting his contracting company. And I'm like, all right, cool. I'm gonna throw him a fucking bone. I'm like, get looked, dude. I got two grand. Can you turn my fuck it? Can you either fix my bathtub or turn into a stand-up shower? He's like, yeah, I can do a stand-up shower, which I didn't realize was such a complicated fucking switch transition, you know? - Sure. - And yeah, any fucking butchered it. Like, did a terrible job. And then I was like, hey, man, this is like fucked up. It's cracked, it's leaking. There's no drain cover. And it's just all fucked up. And he used wall tile for the shower floor. - Well, I'm sorry, what? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, look, Dan, he fucked up. And so I was like, hey, dude, like what the fuck's going on here? And there's no shower handle. I use vice grips to turn my shower on. But, and then he blocked me. He ripped me off, dude. So I caught his shirt on fire last night in your driveway here, actually. I didn't tell you about that. - You set it on fire last night? - Yeah, we set it on fire. And then I showered in that trailer out there. - Well, hold on. So you don't know where the guy lives or nothing? - Well, we're not gonna get into that on the show. - Okay. - Do you? - Of course, I'm a journalist. - I was gonna say. - So the people that ripped me off, I knew where they lived. And they changed their addresses after I went score, short thrown air. Everything you're saying about awesome contractors is true. - Yeah. - I mean, all I'm gonna do is just take a shit in a bag and put on plastic gloves and rub the shit, my human shit underneath the door handles of his truck. - Oh my God, that's great. And when is that going down, you think? - You know, I'm gonna try to sue him. And if I don't win in court, which now I realize saying this on this program, I'm probably not gonna win in court. - Yeah. - That's gonna happen after that. - And is that why you're eating the things you're eating right now, Randy? - Yeah, I'm ready. - This is a gas station, Italian sub and then some form of coffee there. - No, no, no, Ross. That's not why I'm eating this. - But things just happen to work out really nicely. - Yeah, God's plan, right? - God's plan, that's what Jake said. - I do believe in God too, by the way. He's for the record. - Do you? - Yes, very much. - That's actually pretty surprising. Now, let's get to how you know you may or may not know Joe Exotic. - Oh, yeah, so laser and I were at my house. We were, or no, we were doing a video, we were doing a video shoot with this guy called Raza from this place called Raza's office. It's like a dating thing. And we were basically applying to these rich women to be their sugar babies, because lasers got like a bunch of fucking, he needs some money, trust me, he's hurting. And I need, my shower is fixed. My roof is leaking. The floors are all warped in my guest room. I had to rip those out. I'm three months behind on my child's board. I got four warrants. I got a lot of stuff I got to handle financially. And so I applied to go be a sugar baby. And the fucking shoot went insane. I had like kind of a mental breakdown. And then afterwards, we were just in the car and we were like, man, you know, life's really kicking our ass. And we get a phone call and the dude goes, hey, you're banned from the studio, you and Lazer. And we're like, why? And they're like, well, you're Lazer's drunk and you're screaming and all this other stuff. But really what happened was they asked us who we were gonna vote for Joe Biden and Lazer just called him a sissy boy and we left. - What studio? - This fucking, oh fuck, it's like a cinemaker space. The guy who's show we were doing was Raza North, Raza's office, he's a cool dude. He's a cool young kid. He's like a Pakistani Muslim or maybe, I don't know, something like that. Young guy, we're diversifying our portfolios as we do here at the show. - Sure. - And so yeah, we're doing the sugar baby thing and we got kicked out and Lazer and I recorded a reel where we're like, yeah, they kicked us out. Sissy boy, we were gonna vote Trump or whatever and Joe Exotic commented on it. And we were like, hey, dude, we're gonna get you out of jail. And then he slid up into my DMs and he was like, "That sounds gay." - Yeah, he did. - Sure did, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, really connecting all the dots. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, so you responded and-- - And he said he wanted to do it just a, he wanted to be on the podcast. I don't know which podcast he was talking about but this is the one that I'm bringing the interview to. - Sure. - And it's-- - Potentially, we'll see if he calls. He's supposed to call in. - Because he's been hitting me up from Instagram from his jail phone. I'm assuming, I mean, that would make sense 'cause he's in prison. So-- - Did you ask, did you say, hey, do you have access to an iPad or-- - Yeah, he said, I had to give him my info to punch into the machine and call him. - I mean, Shug Knight has been doing it. - But he's been doing it from a pay phone. - Yeah. - And that makes sense. - Well, we'll see when he calls to see if it's like, this is a collect call from Joe, whatever the fuck. - It should be, yeah, yeah. And Delco's got my phone, so. - He does. And he's always pretty good about this type of stuff. - I'm really nervous he's not gonna call. - We got 10 minutes. - Yeah, 'cause he's supposed to call in in 10 minutes, which is fun, and then we'll get into that. But how did he even find you guys online in the first place? - Because we-- - Is he a fan of Uncle Lazer's? - Because I think he followed Lazer and some capacity knew what who Lazer was. - Okay. - But he just slid up because of that fucking clip we posted about, you know, basically saying Joe Biden sucks because I think Trump was gonna potentially pardon him. - He was. - Well, allegedly, this is according to Joe Exotic, and if he does show up, we'll actually ask him this live on air today. He was so certain of it, Bob, if you can pull up the limousine that was sent to the jail by the Joe Exotic team, this is a true story, by the way. This limo was actually waiting for him outside of his jail cell because he was convinced on Trump's last day of office when most presidents hand out pardons that he was gonna be on that list and he was gonna be able to get into this limo and then go home to whatever form of home or trailer he lives in. - Hot tub limo. - Is that what it was? - Yeah, look at the back. - Zoom in on that. So that is a hot tub limo there? - Yeah, I'm gonna zoom in as I guess. - Was he planning on just living in that indefinitely or how does that go? - What's that? - You're talking about Joe was gonna live in this thing? - He wasn't gonna live in it. This was picking him up from the jail cell. Look, it's spacious enough. - It's a nice vehicle that he could live in there, but they're pretty priced. - I mean, better than the cell he's in, six by eight cell or whatever. - No, I am for sure, but I imagine it would just go home, right? Is the like bankrupt or something? - He doesn't have any money whatsoever. - Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's probably, I'm sure-- - The zoo got taken away. - Whatever money he had probably got spent on his defense. - Well, then let's look, let's get him out of jail and we'll hire him here to do a live show. - Yeah, 100%, he's got a, so he's in Fort Worth and prison right now. - Right? - At a medical room. - At a medical room. - Yeah, so we're, I mean, 100% we'll hire him. - Absolutely, if he's able to get out. Bob, what does that say in the background there above Joe Exotic in the limousine? - Oh, those are very, oh, there's the pardon Joe Exotic banner behind him. - Okay. - And then some very well placed lawyer ads. - Ah. - Wait a minute, are those, is that at the jail or is that somewhere else? - That's at the jail. - That really is. - Yeah, they're getting ready to go. - He had a whole convoy. So this was in preparation for him being released. Now, Bob, next question here for you. How many years left does he actually have on his sentence? - I think he got 23 years. - Yeah, he's got 21. - Yeah, he just went in, so. - But did he go in, he didn't go in. - It was 2020. - What year did he go in, Bob? I think he went in in 19. - I think, I think it was, maybe it was November of 19. - Yeah, look that up, Bob. - I don't remember when he went, actually went into jail. - Okay. - Question for Dan, why is he in a medical facility? Is he have AIDS? - I think he's got, he had prostate cancer, I believe, right? - Yeah, yeah, he has prostate cancer. I heard it's in remission. - Hey, that makes sense. - I don't know if, well, yeah. I mean, it's gonna make- - That thing's taking some damage. I mean, I actually don't know if he's a topper, bottom, actually. - I think he's doing it all. - Yeah, he seems like a versatile, yeah. - He's a type, hybrid? - He's an alpha. - He was sentenced to 22 years in prison on January 22nd, 2020, and he went straight to, he's been in Fort Worth the whole time, went straight to the federal medical center in Fort Worth. - Okay, and that's where he's at today. Now, a few days ago, they showed a picture of Harvey Weinstein's medical facility in there. If you want to pop that up on screen. - Oh, that guy. - It's exactly what you think it is. It's, it looks like a jail on the inside, but there's a medical bed in there, like a real hospital bed. - They chained him to the bed? - They chained him to the bed. - I bet he looks like shit now. - He looks horrific. He was in court two days ago when I saw him and he looked like he was near death. - That's good. - Just look up up, just type in prison hospital jail and in those three words, I forget what combination I typed in, but there you go, you know. So that's kind of your life right there. Oh, I didn't know you would have Sally in there too. Shit, dude. - Wow. - Is that John Coffey right there? - A shake by her balls? Oh, oh, oh, oh. (laughs) - No, it's not 'cause he's dead. - Oh, well. - This is fun though. So you're hooked up to whatever you need to. - What do you think those guys have diabetes? (laughs) - Is it black? - Jesus. - Yeah, nailed it. - Sickle cell. - Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's gonna get worse today. I'm feeling it's gonna get a lot worse today. But with these guys. - Oh, we should ask Joe, which gang he joins. - We will. - Yeah, we will. - Do they have different gangs in the medical ward than they do in the... - The last picture I saw of him. - Like when they say "crips," is it actual crippled people? - Might be. The last picture I saw of him, Bob, you can bring that up. He is with two gentlemen who look identical to these two guys. - Oh, well. - And this was taken outside of the jail. So maybe he was kind of chilling here. We'll ask him what he does for work in there 'cause usually everybody has a job. And-- - I don't know about in the medical facilities if they all have a job. - I would hope so. Got to be fucking boring and shit if you didn't have something to do. - Not sure, but that's the most recent picture we have of him. - So do you think he's a good dude? - No. Why not? I mean, he was like baiting young dudes into banging him with meth. So probably not. And then he tried to hire somebody to kill somebody else. Which I don't have a problem with in principle, but do it yourself. - Yeah, that's what I mean. - You know what I mean? You don't have to keep secrets from yourself. - You sure don't? - You know what I mean? - Okay, you sure don't. So in this photo here, Dan, have you seen this before? - Yes, I have it. - Okay. Topper bottom, what's your reckon there? - I think he's at the top. - I did too. - I don't know why. He just gives off top energy. - No, lucky Pierre. - Maybe, yeah, if he's a versatile, he probably is the lucky Pierre there. - Well-- - A versatile means you go topper bottom. - Really? - Yeah. - I was unaware that you did both. - I don't. - Five tool player, huh? - No. But Joe Exotic looks like the kind of guy that doesn't care. - Lucky Pierre in between these two. - Yeah. - Okay, sure. - He's doing the fucking, the pig roast. - Yeah, why not? - He's going to Paris. - He's making an Oreo sandwich there. - Yeah, the old, black, white, black, what? - Garber, we told you it was gonna get worse today. - Nothing, dude. I'm just tired. We were recording till like three in the fucking morning last night. - Oh, oh yeah. - So speaking of that, that's another announcement we can make. Gary, with Joel as a cameraman, are gonna start providing man on the street interviews for fake news on Thursday. - Yeah, and I heard it's pretty fucking ruthless. It's all a little close back there. - It was the most unhinged shit I've ever recorded. It actually might be the funniest thing I've ever recorded. It's unhinged. So Dan said he wanted me to do this. He said, look, we want you to do Gonzo style street interviews. And I said, all right. - Gonzo politics. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And so he said do man on the street interviews and we have returned with a trailer for a TV show. We haven't totally done the interviews yet because nobody was down there. I interviewed a guy with no leg and also gave a homeless man a chicken skewer outside of a 7-Eleven and talked to him for a while. And then this little homeless guy was like trying to kill me. But we did get a bunch of good. We made a TV trailer. - Sure. - Like a movie trailer style segment for this Thursday. It's fucking fantastic. - And is it gonna tease, 'cause we're gonna do this every week. - Oh yeah. - Is it gonna tease the rest of the show? - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah, yeah. We're gonna make just a montage segment for this Thursday and then use some of that footage to make an intro. And then after this, it's gonna be off to the races. I am going to start wearing this bulletproof vest everywhere I go. - I was just about to ask you that. Why are you wearing a bulletproof vest? - Originally, I got this when I used to do the homeless interviews with Dash, the guy that does all that homeless shit. He was in New York Post with me and we had all that stuff. Because homeless people carry knives and they will try to stab you. And this thing will stop you from getting stabbed. So I'm gonna start wearing this when we interview homeless people and like prop stage like gang members and stuff. 'Cause I'm gonna be doing all that shit. But also, I think somebody's trying to kill me. - In real life? - Yes. And I don't want to talk about it too much, but-- - Too late. Who is it? - I can't talk about it. - And why does he want to kill you exactly? - It's a long pause there, friend. - That's a complicated answer that would-- - Is it for give away exactly who I think it is? And I don't even want to know that I know that he's after me. Probably shouldn't have said that. - Well, before when you were here at the studio, I think you said he was getting out of jail or has gotten out of jail? Is that the same guy or no? Different guy? - There's only two reasons why somebody would want to kill you, in my opinion. - Sex was his wife or girlfriend. - It's that or he had something to do with him going to jail. - Yes. - Not like stench it or nothing. I'm just saying you guys were committed to the same crime and he got caught in you dead man. - Yeah, I would never do that, if you know what I'm saying. - Well, that's not true. 'Cause you almost got killed by some Navy dude for banging his wife, didn't you? - Yeah, that didn't work out well for you. - Oh, is that late? Maybe that was laser. - Same person at this point, you know? I feel like you guys can join twins that just got separated. - Don't put me in his boat, dude. - I will. - That guy's a retard. - Both of you guys. It's fucking Lieutenant Dan and Forrest. - Speaking of, I'm trying to convince, that's for sure. - In that boat. - I'm trying to get J.T. to buy a short bus and I wanna have laser drive us around and do that. - There's one for sale right up the road. There's an ambulance for sale right up the road too. - I think we have recommend that. - I think Jared might have a name. 'Cause we had this. - He bought a cop car, I know that. - Oh yeah, maybe we didn't get the answer. So we have an idea for a show called Ambulance and it's all of us. Like we're an ambulance crew. We just keep doing weird shit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So it's all like, everything is shot at his house. - Well, when you have one of those or a cop car or something like that, it's obviously still the same shape and almost the same color when you have one of those things. So people do stop or get out of the way. There's a buddy of mine who bought an old cop car and it had that spotlight on the side mirror. So it was an all black sedan or whatever it was. And I mean, everybody would get out of the way and we would drive that. - Well, I'll tell you what I wanna do. - What's that? - Short bus, it's all dogs. And it says retarddogs.com on the side of it. - Oh! - So if somebody, you get out and you park it somewhere, obviously you get out and walk around. Maybe you're walking with one of the dogs and they're like, hey, what's up with the, what's up with the name there? Like, oh, these dogs are all retarded. - So retarddogs. - Retarddogs.com. - I like it. - And I'll fucking come pick up your retarded dog at your house and drive around all day. - We can go and see kids, like sit kids. How does that gonna work out? - No, no, I don't see why not. - Okay. - Oh, shit, there we go. - There we go. - Yep. - Phone is ringing. - There we go. - It is from him. - Okay, great. Hatch Joe Exotic. - Dan, then we got some sponsors that put this shit wagging on the air. Maybe not after today's show. First and foremost, firstform.com/drinkingbros. I usually always tell you about the micro factors. The vitamins that you need to get inside of us every day in the antioxidants, the cocutans, the multivitamins, fruits and veggies, probiotics and the EFA's that come in one tasty little pouch. But we also wanna talk to you about the protein. Firstform is a protein company, Anthony. - Yup. - Yeah, they sure are. They get the best protein in the business. 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Obviously, we're big fans. We know you don't have that much time. How much time do we have with you today? - 15 minutes and this will shut, the phone will shut up. - Okay, perfect. So let's just jump right in. First of all, have you been able to see the Netflix series of yourself yet or because you were incarcerated? Did they not? - I saw it for the first time two weeks ago. My lawyers were here and we sat and watched it because I'm on appeal and I had to pick out what was fake and what was true. And then we're fixing to file a huge lawsuit against Netflix for witness tampering and defamation and copyright and trademark infringement. - So what was incorrect about the documentary and who were the people that defamed you? - Yeah, I'm having a really hard time hearing you. Can you get closer too? - Absolutely. Can you hear me better now? - A little bit, yeah. - Okay, great. In regards to who defamed you in the Netflix series, who was that in particular? Was it Carole Baskins? - You know what? Carole Baskins probably, one of the only ones that didn't talk shit about me and got paid to talk shit about me. - Eric, good, the producer of good productions who made Tiger King for Netflix. We have him now on telephone and video recording, paying the witnesses during my trial to keep the narrative going so he can make Tiger King. So the things that you saw in there, like, you know, Seth, the girl that lost her arm, you know, they set her in the middle of a junkyard to interview her to make it look like DeZoo was a junkyard. And then they got John Finley to talk shit, you know, and accused me of burning the studio down and everything else. But we have proof now that the producer paid these people. Big time cash. Nobody got a 1099, nobody paid any income tax. Yeah, there's fixing to be some big trouble over all this. - Hey, when you say big time cash, how much is on it? - I sued that guy named Vince Johnson in Florida a couple months ago and won net lawsuit because Netflix, he came out while I was in jail. See, they filmed most of that while I was in jail. So he came out and told Netflix that that was his music that, you know, here, Kitty Kitty and I saw Tiger and all that. So Netflix paid him and didn't even ask me. So they didn't have anything permission to use my videos off of YouTube. They didn't have any permission to use my music or anything. So yeah, there's a lot of problems with that show. - Okay, so Joe, you reached out to me and I'm assuming that you want my help to get you out of jail. What can I do to help get you out of jail? - You know, I need a voice, an anti-platform. You know, I've got a lot of attorneys working on this from every angle, you know, they passed that new, you know, the Supreme Court ruled down on a Chevron case where a federal agency can't criminally hold you for a rule because it's not laws. And that will get rid of every one of my animal charges. - Great, and, you know, as far as Donald Trump is concerned, I'm not sure if you're following the upcoming election, Joe Biden had a very bad debate. Chances are- - He had a super bad debate. - Yeah, yeah, chances are he won't be president this next term. Are you hoping that Donald Trump gets back in office so that he could potentially pardon you? - I have had some communication with some of his campaign advisors and Jason Miller. And, you know, at some point, I'm probably gonna suspend my campaign and put all of my effort behind President Trump. But I wanna hear some certain things out of his mouth first and it's not necessarily even my pardon, you know, I'd like to hear that he's gonna pardon me. I believe he would. - This call is from a federal prison. - But we have all the evidence that I'm innocent, but what I wanna hear out of President Trump's mouth is now that he's a victim of this unjust system and how the federal court system can indict you on hearsay and just supersede into your indictments. I mean, 94 felony indictments is a little much, okay? That's just like I started with one charge and when I wouldn't plead guilty to that and I wanted to trial, they superseded me with 20 more charges. Okay, the Constitution said that you have a right to a fair trial doesn't say anywhere in there that the government has right to blackmail you or stacked charges on you if you ask for that fair trial. So I would like to hear Donald Trump say that he is going to fix the system for not just him and not just me, but for the other 30, 40,000 people in here that had to plead guilty to something because they were threatened by the government. - So you're expecting Trump now that he's gone through the process and he sees how unfair it is. You're expecting him to understand your situation and help you out. Speaking of which, what's your status right now? You're at a medical facility, correct? - Do I know? - You're at a medical facility right now, is that correct? - I've been at a medical facility since I came to prison. Yeah, I have blood infusions every month because I was born with a disease that my body just doesn't make blood, right? So they have to give me blood every month and then I went through prostate cancer and now I went through a PET scan and CAT scans and x-rays and I'm waiting for biopsies in my left lung 'cause they think I've got lung cancer now. So it's just, day by day, I just pray to God Trump wins and makes this right for me or some laws change or I'm on appeal, I'm on two appeals right now and I hope that the appellate court, you know, overturns my conviction. But my problem is I've got a crooked ass judge in Oklahoma City that no matter what the appellate court says, you know, he just, he does what he wants. - Yeah, it's all super fascinating to see what's gonna happen with you here. Last time you were up for a potential pardon, we saw your limo outside and your team in the sign that said, you know, pardon Joe Exotic. Were you disappointed that night that you didn't get a pardon from President Trump on his way out of office? - No, again, I'm having a really hard time hearing you. - Were you disappointed that you didn't get a pardon out of Donald Trump on his way out of office in 2020? - You know, President Trump had me on the pardon list, Sean Hannity verified it, a couple other really high name people verified that that was on the pardon list. Then January 6th happened and everything went to shit and he didn't go to the inauguration and, you know, leave office properly. He just took his briefcase and boxes and ran. And even Sean Hannity was disappointed because there was a lot of people including me that was on that pardon list that didn't get pardoned. - Am I disappointed? Absolutely. You know, I have to wait for more years for him to maybe do it again. But all I can do is hope that the man now that he is a victim of the system, I hope that he'll make it right on his first or second day of office. - Well, he released his policy for the 24 plot GOP platform and one of the things he said he wanted to do is end the weaponization. So he released the GOP platform this week. - And I completely lost you. - No worries, he released the GOP platform this week and he said he wanted to end the weaponization of the justice system and the justice department that's currently going on. I'm assuming he meant Joe Exotic included in that. - I think he means everybody. - Well, I'm open, you know, I hear him say that he's gonna defund the FBI, which really needs to happen because the FBI has weaponized themselves against just normal people when they're supposed to be going after serial killers and mafia bosses, you know? Don't worry about John Doe next door doing an eight ball once a month. - Which is not that much. - And honestly, that's what's in here. And the more people that I meet, it's crazy how I read their cases because all it takes in the federal system is two people that say I bought an eight ball from you every week for two years and they charge you with the two years worth of eight balls. - Yeah, yeah, conspiracy. Yeah, that's Gary's life. That's my life, Joe. - And who the hell can afford to go up against the government with $200,000 on every charge, you know what I'm saying? So they got all these people scared and they say, look, you're gonna plead out to five or 10 years or if you go to trial, we're gonna seek 30 or 40 years on you. Have the other inmates inside seen Tiger King documentary? Do they know how famous you actually are? - It is amazing how many people have been put in prison since Tiger King came out that saw it. Every Saturday and Sunday, that's all I do is take pictures out on the yard with inmates for them to send home. - Yeah, we've actually seen one of those pictures. It appeared to be two African American gentlemen surrounding you there outside. Is that what your weekend life is like? It's taken these selfies. And who's actually taking the photos there? To my knowledge, you weren't allowed to have photos in there. - You buy a photo ticket on the commentary for a dollar and the prison takes them. - Oh, so you've got to be making money in there at least. One would assume you're charging to these photos. - Well, I'm not. I'm not. The prison is. (laughing) - This call is from a federal prison. - Yeah, if I was to charge for one, they'd put me in the hole from making money. - Hey, Joe, I got to quit. - You know, that's another real quick thing that I want to just let a general public understand, okay? When you're in federal prison, you're supposed to not be allowed to make money, okay? You can't help your family run your business. You can't hold anything. They take everything away from you. But goddamn, during COVID, they brought us all a $3,400 stimulus check. (laughing) Joe, are you still there? - Yeah. - You're still, okay, I got a question for you. It's, you know, pardon my French here, but are you getting any strange in there? How's that like? What's the love life like in there? - Do you go ahead? - Are you, are you having, do you have sex in there? Are you, obviously we've seen the documentary or attracted to other men? Are you having sex in there? - You know, you know, federal prison is very private. It's private bathroom, private showers, private everything. And none of that shit goes on in here. I don't know about state or county prison, you know, but federal prison, yeah, none of that shit goes on in here. And if it does, the inmates take care of that. They beat the hell out of here. So no, I'm happily engaged to a very nice young man named Seth Posey and Fort Smith, oh, okay. And he has a five year old little boy that just is cuter nail and I can't wait to get home and change my life. I wanna finally have a family. - That's awesome. How did you guys meet? - Believe it or not, back in 2020, I put a contest on my website called The Bachelor King. And 44,000 guys applied. And he was number seven and I never looked any further. And we've been together since talk. 34 times a day on the phone. He comes and sees me on the weekends. - Lucky number seven, I love it. Currently, how many more years do you have left on your sentence? - Okay, if I don't win my appeal or some of these laws passed that are in committee right now and change, I have 11 more to do and I've already done seven. - Okay, so it's not terrible. Obviously, we're hoping for the best and we're hoping that Trump pardons you. But 11 years isn't that bad. How is the rest of your life in there as far as food goes and everything else? - You gotta consider I'm 61 years old. So I'll be 72 when I walk out of here. - Yeah, 11 years for us wouldn't be that bad. - I mean, you'll still be 10 years younger than either presidential candidate. - I've already been through cancer once and I might be facing a harder cancer this next time around. So, you know, I don't count on 11 years. Am I fine if this ends tomorrow and they zip the body bag up? Absolutely, you know, I hate my government that much now. - Wow, so you're okay if you die in prison? - I'm fine with it. I had a super good life. I've done 10 times more things than most normal people would ever do. - Yeah, are you working in there at all? - No, yeah, I'm a care level three, which is one of the highest medical care there is. - So what's your day to day like then? - You eat expensive overpriced munchies from the commentary and you watch TV and play poll and work out all day. Hey, this thing's gonna hang up in 30 seconds. It just gave us the last beat. But, you know, get on joey.coficial.com, look at all the evidence links of all the videos of everybody I've been to perjury, spread that around, be my voice, and email my people if you wanna do another call sometime in the next week or so. - We won't, absolutely. Fight the good fight, Joe. We love you out here, okay? You got us through COVID. - Yeah, I'm gonna bet you out. - We're gonna bet you out. - I sent my love. - Okay, all right, thanks. - Cheers, Joe. There it is, there it is, Gary Bear. I almost felt like we were talking to your father. - Dude, is that close? Is it close to what your dad's actually like today? - No, no, no. No, my dad's not gay, well, maybe he's, I don't know, but... - I'm looking at joey.coficial.com, there's quite a bit of merch on here. - Is it really? Bob, pull it up, pull it up, Joe, exactly official. - There's also a link to merch for, he's running for president right now, which he alluded to during the call, with a gentleman named Tom Wolf, who's a CPA, and he actually put CPA on the campaign flyer, which is interesting. - Oh, well, you need a good CPA in this life. Now, is that a bedspread right there? A Joe exotic bedspread? - And it kind of looks like a child's bed. - Now, Bob, I'm glad you brought this photo up in particular, and here's why. And I'm not kidding when I say this. I remember him being younger-ish on the show, but obviously that was four years ago, and then God knows how long that was shot in the past. So, I was unaware that he was actually 61 years old. I just thought he was maybe, I don't know, mid-40s, late-40s at that point, which is probably what he was before he went into prison there, or close to, or whenever the documentary was shot, because for those of you who've seen it, it felt like it was just endless footage of this guy's life. - Yeah, there was a ton of it. He didn't sound as bad as I thought he would for having cancer. - Me neither. - He sounds good. You know, I had never seen this before. I just saw it on his website, and I looked it up, and it is true. After he graduated high school, he briefly served as chief of police in East Vale, Texas. - You don't say? - He's definitely got a Hunter S Thompson vibe to him. If you put a little gay in there, you know? - Yeah. - You put a lot of gay in there. - He was 19 years old. - When he was there? - And he patrolled in a, quote, tricked out Transam. - Come on now, swear to God. - Bob, pop up this bad picture one more time there. Is that a, is it a sheet or a cover? Is that a duvet? That's a-- - That's a blanket. - It's just a blanket. - Okay. Bob, I'm gonna send you a link. - 'Cause he's got his pubes all shaved out of there, which is nice. What else does he have there on the-- - I'm definitely gonna be hitting his people up to send me some free merch for getting him out of prison. - Yeah, I would. - Get out of prison. - Get us something that we can put on the set, like a picture or something. - I'll make it off. - Coffee mugs or something. - For sure, for sure, a bunch of stuff. - That's nice. - Probably that. - Yeah, I'd like to hang that in my kid's bed. - This is another blanket, yeah. - Yeah, my five-year-old. - Does he have bullet holes tattooed on him? - It looks like he, yeah. - Sure does. He's been shot multiple times. - It's guys a goddamn American hero, really, if you think about it. From what he was saying, the Chevron case, Dan? We've talked about that plenty of times. It's weird how all this shit ends up becoming interconnected. You know? - Well, does he have to be married, Dan? - Yeah, it does. - So he got convicted of charges with regard to housing exotic animals that were made up by the government. They were never voted on by Congress, so he could have those vacated, it's a real possibility. - So basically, it's the same principle as the bump stock thing with the ATF. They're just making shit up. And he's right about the FBI and the ATF should both be defunded. - Oh, yeah, 100%. Bob, I sent you a link to both emails. - Oh, he's got autographed boxers on there. - Oh, yeah. - I don't know if that's a real autograph or not, but it might be a press. - Did OJ used to hand autographed footballs in prison? - Oh, he sure did. - I wouldn't be surprised if he was doing this. - So this is football picks and gambling tips. - This is Joe Exotic as a cop. - Holy shit. - Holy shit. - Keep scrolling down because there's a tweet that has the full picture in it. It's gonna take a minute to load because that website is the daily stormer or some shit. There he goes. So that's like him with his police search. Like for real, he was the fucking chief of police in this small town. - You've gotta be fucking kidding me. - Oh, he was the chief? - That's wild. - He's the chief of police. - Oh, I thought he was a sheriff. - By the way, I looked this up where it is. This is like suburban Dallas. - Yeah. - Is it really? - He's a hometown fucking hero. - He sure is, dude. - And now the population is small. It's like maybe a thousand people. The last time I can find data for it, it was a thousand. - Yeah, there's gotta be law. - Oh, no, hold on. Residents of the country. - Got a law. Well, I don't go around here, Favi. There's always going to be somebody like that who's going to come in. - I'm going to run for sheriff, dude. - So the Eastvale doesn't exist anymore. It's now part of a city called the Colony, which is weird. But it's in Denton, so like Northwest Dallas area. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Near the, getting close to Oklahoma. So he was the chief of police there. I think, man, if you know what? Here's the really funny part of this. So. - Besides the entire show. - The entire thing is crazy. But here's the really funny part. If he were to get pardoned and that felonies wiped off at his record, technically speaking, he could get something called, I think it's an HR 218, which means if you are a former sworn officer in the United States, you can carry concealed in every state for the rest of your life. - Really? - You just have to have a letter typically from your host agency if you didn't retire with benefits there, which I doubt he did. - So Joe Exotic could potentially get out of prison and then carry in all 50 states. - And start a bodyguard business and he'll guard that body. - Sure. - Oh yeah, he will. - According to him, though, he wants to turn it around, found a lovely man. - He did find a lovely man. - And he was got a five year old. He wants to start a family. - Well, he's also selling supplements. - Is he really? - What are they? - Shock, muscle, pre-workout, rapid muscle builder, Oshwagonda, muscle builder. - Oh yeah. - Well, I mean, look, I'm surprised he's not selling poppers. His own brand of poppers. - I would buy him. When's the last time you did a popper gear? - I don't think I've ever done one recently. As I was saying that, I remembered I did try them one time when I was like 19. Then do anything gay. I just tried it out and-- - Sure. - Dude, fuck you, dude. I just bring you the interview of a fucking lifetime and you're going to call me a queer. - I'm definitely buying some of these Joe Exotic board shorts. - Yeah. - No, I'm telling you. Pop the supplements up on the screen. - Yeah, that's-- I think you just like did whatever Alex Jones did. - I'm going to get there, his people to send us a ton of this shit, dude. - Tistosterone booster here, that's great. I'm all in on that. I can cancel my TRT doc. I don't, I think this would do it. That's it, right? - I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. - Nice. - I think I'll be fine with the worst that could happen. - Speaking of testosterone booster, have you guys ever tried Sheila Jet? Sheila Jet? The Himalayan resin? Dude, I started taking, you scoop it out with a little spoon. I started eating it the other day. It tastes like fucking shit, like melted plastic. - Sounds like it. - It's fucking crazy. Rob, you don't know what I'm talking about? - No. - What have you guys known what this is? Nobody here's tried that shit? - No, Gary. - Dude, I feel like I'm on steroids when I take it. - Really? You probably are. - If you're getting shit from over the border, dude, God knows what's in it. - If you want to take something-- - No, no, but it at GNC. - Okay. - If you want to take something to boost your testosterone, take fedogia. - Well, I already take that in Tonka. I'm going balls to the wall, Dan. I don't think you understand the kind of danger I'm in. I need to always be peak performance. - No, I get it. You're wearing a bull poof vest now. When is this guy getting out of jail to find you? Not Joe Exotic. - I don't know. - I got this after you. - I don't know, dude. - And is this the thing where we free Joe and then Joe becomes your bodyguard to protect you from the guy that's trying to kill you? - That sounds like a fucking insane way. That's an insane timeline, but I can see that happening. - Same here. - Yeah. - What if-- (sighs) - Uncle laser, Gary. - How much money you got? - Joe Exotic. - 'Cause I might sell you out, to be honest. - How much money do I have? - Yeah. 'Cause this dude is-- - Obviously, none, Dan. I don't even have a shower. - He's gonna get out of jail and then offer me some amount of money to find out. - And then you're gonna have to match the offer. So that's why he's asking about yours. - Now I'll let you work it off. It's called indentured servitude. Are you familiar with this? - Yeah, I see what you're doing. - Yep. - And I'm in. (laughing) - Basically, we want to own you. - He also says jewelry, and I think we need this immediately. - Oh, boy, what does it say? - It says, "I wasn't born gay, I got sucked into it." (laughing) - We should buy one of these for Jared, for sure. - Oh my god. - 100%. - I wasn't born gay, I just got sucked into it. - I'll send him a list of stuff. - Now that's an oval necklace. What's the price tag on that, Bob? Pop that up on screen. - $20, he's a man of the people. - I don't know where the-- - God damn hero. - We're buying it. - I mean, it's-- - Support Joe Exotic. - I'm sure it's worth exactly what you're paying for, but I do think you guys should all go buy this stuff. - I'm gonna buy this right now. - I think so. - I know why. - As soon as the show ends, I'm buying it. We'll buy some, I'll tell you what, we'll buy, how many people are in here? Six, you want one, Joel? Okay, yeah. We'll buy some for the studio right after the show ends. - Are there shoes? - I'm gonna get one of those blankets. - Yeah, we'll do it. - I'm not buying it. - Oh, he's got cologne? - I'm definitely not buying cologne. - Oh, look at that, it's called Amador. - It's exotic. - Oh, it says buy Joe Exotic. - No, I mean, it's an exotic scent. - Sure, one would imagine because he's. - Hey, were those slippers or something, Rob? - Yeah, hold on, let me just read you this cologne description real quick. - Okay, how much is the cologne, Bob? - It's $34.99, a deal, honestly. - Great price, yeah, great price, yeah. - Experience the irresistible, irresistible allure of Amador cologne by Joe Exotic. A scent designed to leave a lasting impression. Crafted with meticulous attention to detail in the finest ingredients. The signature fragrance exudes confidence in Joe. - It really does, the bottle looks nice though. - I mean, even the way you're ending is great. - The way you read that, Rob, it was exotic. - Very nice, Bob. - I'm telling you, I thought I saw some shoes or something on there though. - Is there slippers too? - I can't tell what they are from here. Those are slippers, yeah. - No, that's, I actually need some new little slippers, yeah. - Put them all on the list. - Bob, read aloud there, these are astronaut cats. Astronaut cat, free Joe, women's fleece house slippers. - Well, I guess. - They're for women, did they have a dance? - I don't give a shit who they're for. - Well, that sounds kinda gay. - They're going on my feet. - Tables turned in, you're the queer now. - Yeah, what size women's shoe do you wear? We'll buy some for you. - Um, I don't know how that works actually. - I don't either, it's usually, I thought it was two. - That's why I like European. - Two over two down. - In European size, I wear a 45. - Okay, you know, I think we asked all the right questions in that 15 minute period of time, but I think the only thing we missed was asking what his thoughts are on the transgender stuff. - I'm curious. - Well, we can ask him next time. - I don't know that he knows, because to my knowledge, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Dan, I don't think they're allowed to have trans in Texas prisons, right? - Dad, I don't know. - Okay. - I don't know. - No, I just mean in general, like would he bang a transgender? - Oh, yeah, I mean, I feel like he probably would. - I feel like he probably would there. - You know, this one gay dude I used to know, he was like telling me that transgender people have the biggest dicks. Why, how, why? Is that because of the gay testosterone thing? - It just shoots more. - The prenatal thing? - Yeah, seriously, I'm actually a serious question. It sounds stupid. - Well, I don't know if- - It's not that. - I don't know how it happens with a single individual over time. Your test goes with definitely shrink, right? So maybe they just look bigger, or your dick. - That's what it is. - Well, I'm talking about the- - But your body gets smaller and you know. - But as your testosterone levels go down, generationally, your dick gets bigger, right? - Wait, what? - Yeah, so the lower amount of sperm count you have, the longer your dick gets. And that, not for an individual from puberty until death. I mean, like generationally speaking, right? Like if your ancestry will have lower and lower tea or lower and lower sperm counts, your dick will get longer. And that's not, that's the case for every race, right? Well, the reason is because- - I had to explain to my giant balls. - Your dick needs, if your sperm is weaker, your dick needs to be longer to make sure it fucking gets in there, right? - Sure, dude. I don't know. I don't understand. - Gary. - That's a thing. - It is. - So, by the way, Bob, was he selling coffee too? I thought I saw coffee on there. - He's selling everything. - All right, 'cause I didn't know if Black Rifle's gotta be worried about this. (laughing) I mean- - They might just pack up shop. - Yeah. - Yeah, he's got all the things here, man. I mean, it's real, like, there's ice cream for sale. - Oh, pillows, boxers. Is that a workout top for women? - I'm in. - That's a leopard print thing? - You think you sold some of those? - Oh, we got some- - I'm not sure. - We got some men's indoor slippers too, but they're not Tiger King-y enough. - What are the indoor slippers for dudes there? - I don't know, I'm just searching. I go up to search and type of slippers. - How about these boxers right here? - These boxers are nice, dude. Look at that. Is there a tiger on the cock? - Oh, a tiger king. Look at that. - Tiger cock. - These are great, yeah. How much are those? - 46, 89. - That's a little pricier boxers. - Those are more expensive than the damn necklace. - Yeah. - Is it for a, we're all getting necklaces here, okay? - Rob, is that for a, like a, like a, you know, three or four, like a set, or is it just one pair? - Just one, I think. - Wow. - Wow, they must be beautiful. - Fine silk. - Yeah, those are beautiful. - Beautiful boxers. - Beautiful boxers, silk. - Also make your dick look bigger. What's that? Is that- - More boxers. - Okay, but is that a rape whistle? - Also a lot of the boxers. - On a lot of the boxers, he puts something that you might like suck or blow on, which is funny, but one of them was like a baby binky, which was a little weird. - Whoa, don't like that. - Don't like that at all. - Probably gonna skip that. - No, but the whistle one I'll get behind there for sure. And his signature's on everything, by the way. I mean, signatures on every last time. - That's his brand. It's like Kate Spade or fucking, who's out of the broad that signed that's, there's a signature. - He's a fucking bitch. - Tommy Hilfiger does it too. - And the cabbage patch guy did it too. - Here's his sexy baby blowjob underwear. - Oh no. - Oh. - Have I told you, I love you. Question mark, and there's a baby binky where the cock is. And then obviously another signature down the thigh there. - That's not great. That's not it. - Do you think he gets final say or is it a team decision? - Of his merch? - Yeah. - I think it's more of a workshop type of thing and they kind of throw up whatever that is. - Maybe it's big in the gay community. We've talked about the diaper fetish in the past where people get all diped up and act like babies and then shit themselves. - That's not even a gay thing though. - That's just so weird. - It's for both. And look, he's going for a broader audience here, Gary Bear. So I don't want you to shoot this down immediately. This could be for the fetish scene that we're just not a part of. Obviously you'll be there one day, but not us. - I'm still on his side because of the FBI comments, but I mean. - Yeah, it's a tough one. - That's disgusting. - It's a tough one to swallow, pun intended there. - Well, although a lot of people at Raves and stuff do use bean keys and whatnot, huh? - Are you thinking you made it for the Rave community? - Yeah, 'cause there's a bunch of gays in those. - It's mostly gays, yeah. It's gays and then people selling drugs to gays. - Yeah, okay. - So maybe you're putting some Molly on that, man. - Maybe we put the cart before the horse there from momentarily. - Could be, could be. And I'm glad we were able to kind of talk it through. - Oh shit. - I'm gonna use them of being a pedophile. - Remember Huma Abadine? - Yeah. - Anthony Weeder's ex-wife, Hillary Clinton's two for staff. She and George Soros' son are getting married. - Yeah, they are. They've been dating for a while. So they're now getting married. Good for them. - So she'll be the fucking queen of Antifa basically. So that means. - Yeah, they're gonna try to rule the world. - Yeah, they're gonna try. - They sure are gonna try. Now go back to that. So there's a man and a woman there and matching tees, Bob. - That's the Pensacola shirt. - Is it really? - Beautiful. - Isn't JT and Pensacola or something right now? - I don't know where he is. - Or he's headed there. Dude, he goes there a lot. - He goes there a lot. - Oh, hashtag free jokes on it, give him therapy. - Oh, is he going to that? That's like the 25th and 6th. For that thing with Black Kevin? - Something. Yeah, I didn't know Black Kevin was gonna be there, but it's something like- - It's like a party for tackpeas. - But it's just, it's funny to me that like jokes on it's selling gay shirts from Pensacola and that's where JT's going and he's gay, so. - Yeah, I mean, look, there's probably a lot of gay shit going on. - He's doing the second half of his life, Jared's doing a gay. Go back to those two dudes posing together there, the gay dudes, for those t-shirts. Oh, that's nice. - How do you know they're gay and not just models, Ros? - Just by the looks of them. - Yeah, I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know. - Definitely two homosexual men right now. - I don't think there are street male models. - I was, that was a test and you guys both passed. - Yeah, I mean honestly- - You can tell somebody's gay by looking at him. - Even Asians, that's the first gay Asian we've seen. - I taught you that. - What? - It was a 2013 Stanford study, I taught you that years ago. - No. - So we'll try to say that like that's news. Piece of fucking shit. - You did not teach me that. You taught me that women with high test levels prenatally are more likely to have gay kids. I didn't know that was actually fact, I just said that. - No, that's a fact. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah, so Stanford did a study, I think it was 2012 or 13, where they showed just a still image of like a several hundred dudes to several hundred people. And 83, or I think it was 83% of the time they were able to identify whether they were gay or straight. Just by a still image of their face. - Yeah. - Not their mannerisms, not like they're walking or speech or any of that shit. Just a picture of their fucking face. So you're right. - Yeah. - Which is why if you see somebody that looks like a creepy fucking pedophile, they probably are one. - Probably are. - And Bob, back to that pick one more time here with this gazion, the gay Asian guy. I have not seen a gazion before. It's rare. - I kind of feel like every dude in South Korea is gay. - Yeah, for sure. - 'Cause they all like dress like women now. Because of that dumb band or whatever. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that gay pop band, yeah. - I can't remember the name of it is, but it's super popular. - It's a government-side up. - Maybe, yeah. - To get everybody used to, I think that's what they want the future of the world to look like. It's just this, maybe it's a girl, maybe it's a dude vibe and this genderless fucking Asian, a nice yellow tint. Not too black, not too white, just right in the middle there. - Bage. - It's a nice bage. - Dan, do you think that given the precedent set by the Chevron case that Joe actually has a shot of getting out of jail? - Well, maybe earlier, I don't know what part of it. Say it would go, if it went through and they were able to say you improperly charge and convicted us with this 'cause it shouldn't have been in regulation in the first place because whatever agency it was doesn't have the ability to make that regulation into a law, right? That part could get vacated, but then he would have to go back for re-sentencing. It wouldn't be-- - That's how that works? - 'Cause, yeah, 'cause part of his case was also a murder for hire, right? - Oh, yeah, yeah. - So he wouldn't completely get out, but he's been in prison for seven years now, right? So it may just be two or three more years. I don't know how much that animal stuff added onto. - Yeah, right, right. You don't know what's the weight of the murder for hire charge itself, which is what Gary said. - Wow. - 20 years, if personal-- - I'm not making a video. (laughs) - You've done it. - The maximum penalty, so this is federal court, so the maximum penalty violating statute, 1958, varies with the severity of conduct, a fine indoor 10 years for any violation and a fine indoor 20 years if personal injury results. And then death or life in prison if death results. Baskin was never injured. So technically speaking, if the only thing they got, if they only had a conviction remaining for the murder for hire without injury, it would be a maximum of a 10 year sentence. So he'd be getting out pretty soon there. - And you don't even serve the full sentence. - Right. - He did pay the hitman to go and try to-- - That doesn't matter, that's all part of it. So maybe they charge him with conspiracy and that, but even then I think he would be getting out pretty soon if they vacated all the other-- - And why was he, can you refresh the audience and myself for us, why was he trying to kill her? - He hated her, they were in a competition, they had competing zoos and animals and he wanted to have the biggest zoo. There was the United States of America because he loved tigers that much. And then she started doing it-- - But didn't she fucking kill her husband? - Allegedly. - There's a lot of smoke around that. - Yeah. - Didn't they dig up a body a year or two ago? - And it did, and again, allegedly here. - Look, look, look. - I thought they found him. - What's that? - I thought he just went off the grid and they found him. - That might be true as well, I don't know. - Yeah, look that up. - I haven't looked into it. - Did he find Carol Baskin's husband? You might be right on that. Actually, I think it was a rumor. - Well, here's the thing, if he was doing murder for hire to get a woman that potentially killed her husband killed, then I say, get him out, give him a award, dude. - Sounds like he's actually a good guy taking out the trash. - And I think he would be a great father. - Put it on the screen, yeah, they found him. - They did find him. - Oh, okay, pop him up, let's see. - She did not kill him. - Oh, well, so, well, there you are. - Well, whose bones did they find on her property? - Yeah, exactly, that brings up a whole new son. - Oh, she killed somebody else, possibly. - Could be. - Or an animal did. - Or fed him to the tigers. - Yeah, well, that was the rumor in the dark manner. - That would be something. I mean, if you run a big cat facility of some sort, and it killed somebody, you probably wanna get rid of the body, otherwise you would lose all your shit, right? - Yeah, no one noticed. - Yeah, hey, we did. - But no one noticed there. Is this real? What's the publication? - I mean, that's what she says. - It is the New York Post, okay. Do they have a name on this guy? And then where do they find him, I guess? - Don Lewis. - Don Lewis, don't live in Costa Rica. - Really? - So yeah, Don Lewis? - Yeah, let's get him on the fucking show. - Yeah, but wait, why, he just disappeared, and everybody was looking for him, and he was in Costa Rica. He was probably running away from this crazy bitch. - Yeah, she's talking about it. - Pop up that picture right there, Bob, is that a recent picture of him? - Oh, he kinda looks rough. - He looks rough there. That's a tough time. - I mean, he's probably fucking 80. - In the doc there, on the right, that's who I knew and loved. And then-- - He was a good guy? - Great guy. - Maybe he really was running away from her. - Gentle lover, very attentive. Some say he was too good of a listener, you know? Which is a lot of the qualities of this gentleman here. Guy in the left, though, looks a little sus. He's alive in Costa Rica, though, thank God. All right, thank God, holy shit. I couldn't take another death on this show today. I really couldn't. I really couldn't. Strange thing about Joe Exotic, though, for real. Like, I know we're gonna end the show pretty soon, but that series, and the last dance for Michael Jordan, really did kinda get everybody through COVID. And it was just the right place at the right time. I think if that came out today, I don't know if it would have the impact that it had during that, 'cause we were all stuck inside. I mean, it was right when lockdown started, right? And they drank that fucking thing. - So Tiger King did a lot for America, but we haven't done a lot for him. I think it's time to give back. - I did, too. I'm buying six of those necklaces right now. - No, I mean, I'm going to break him out of jail. - Well, I know you are. You're gonna do that. You're gonna be in charge of that. I'm gonna buy the necklaces, so he can get some more goodies at Commissary. That's kind of my job. You're gonna do that. - Well, more pictures. - Yeah. - 'Cause I want to see more of them. So do I. - Yeah, I want it. - You know what? That's what I'll ask his team. I'll say, hey, can you guys get a photo? Can you get a photo of him and have him sign it and send it to the studio? - That would be great, yeah. - That would be great, right there. - Yeah. - And then we'll get Last Roll Up has to get a tattooed on his body. - Yeah. - Yeah, that guy will get anything tattooed, huh? - Yeah. - Is he retarded? - I think you guys come from the same gene pool. - Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Let me take this off. - Are you nervous taking off the bulletproof vest? Because her boy's gonna pop in. - You're safe in here. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well, I just, I don't want to. - We got tons of guns. Because guns all over the place. - I mean, Gary's got to be concerned at all times 'cause he's making enemies left and right. - That's true, yeah. - He just made an enemy of Last Roll Up has called him Retard. - That's true, yeah. And he's Mexican, so. - Yeah, and last row is military. He can kill you. And he handles guns every day. - Sure does. Sure does. Gareberry, are you watching yourself undressed there in the monitor? That's what it looks like there? Okay, yep. Great. Oh, and then that's the laser talked about that. So that's your child with the gun. - Yeah, yeah, I can. - Beautiful tattoos right there. You're doing prison workouts too? Are you doing normal shit? - Yeah, I gotta tattoo my kids so I can see them. - Yeah. - Hey, boom, ding, ding, ding, look in the mirror. - Yeah, I got the drinking bro's logo tattooed. - Did you really? - Yeah. - Look at that. Oh, yeah, that's beautiful right there. - I wish there was a. - I'll wait to zoom in. I have the audience will zoom in. I guarantee you. - The audience will zoom. - The audience will zoom. - Yeah, he'll hoot you. You gotta be careful. - Yeah, actually, I actually did it myself. - Did you really? - No. - Are you an amateur tattoo artist? - No, my buddy Juan Diego at East End Tattoos on East Sixth Street did it. Love that place. - Yeah. - Big fan, is that where most of your ink is from? - Yep. - Yeah, yep, yep. - Is that your mom topless on the forearm there? Or who is that? - That's my ex-wife. - Is it really? - No, actually, funny story. I thought I was gonna go to prison so I actually got this so I'd always have something to jerk off to. I'm not joking at all. - I think you should probably get one on both hands 'cause you don't know if you're gonna get an injury. - That's true. That's absolutely true. - And is that a tiger on your hands? - That is a hell hound spitting out triple six dice. To remind myself not to gamble. - Okay. - 'Cause you throw sixes out the back alley every time. - Sure, and what is a hell hound? She was out of curiosity. - Dude, I don't even know. I had an acid trip when I was 18 and I woke up naked in the bushes and I just thought these hell hounds were chasing me. I literally, it's a hallucination. It's not real. - And how do you describe that to someone to tattoo on your hands? - Just like that. - Yeah. - And then you hope the guy's also done acid and he knows how to do it. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Look, it's a great, hold that up to the camera. It's great. So yeah, look, he did a good job of the interpretation. - Yeah. - So I'm not knocking him at all. - Juan Diego ATX, that's his Instagram, he's a good guy. - Yeah, and then does your wife, your ex-wife, forgive me, is she aware that you have a tattoo of you guys as child holding a shotgun? - I have no idea. I haven't talked to her, she hates me. I did get to see my kid for five minutes. Remember that, Dan? - Oh, how was that? - Fucking bullshit. We kicked a soccer ball against the wall for five minutes and then she's like, well, that's it. My son's like, he looks at his mom and he's just like, I hate you. It's crazy. I think he gets it. I think he's like, figured it out that he's like, oh, my dad really wants to be in my life, but my mom's kind of a bitch. - How old is he? - I'm never gonna say that shit. Well, I mean, sometimes I kind of slip and say some shit. - Sure. - But, you know. - Oh, he's six now. - Oh, he's six now. - Yeah. - Okay. - Well, I'll say this, right around eight, nine is when they really kind of start to figure things out. - Yeah. - Dude, he's pretty. - A couple more years. - Maybe Trump can pardon you as well. - Yeah. - I've never been convicted. My felony was diverted. - Yeah, I'm just saying maybe he can pardon you from this situation you've got. - Oh, yeah. - Send in Devgrew or somebody and take the kid. - Yeah, dude. If I ever make it to the White House, I'm just gonna say, hey, can you please give me my son? They're gonna be like, what? - I want my son back. - Give me back my family. - That was a great Liam Ninson, actually, Dan. I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know you could do that. Do you have a shoulder injury there? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I just mentioned it multiple times on the show. - Yeah, I did. Thank you for listening, Dan. - Yeah, don't-- - I don't know what I did, actually. I have no idea, but it just fucking hurts. - With you, it's kind of in one ear out the other, and then I just hope for the best. I don't know whether I'm gonna see you the next day or not. I saw a dead guy in the highway last week, actually, half a dog. - Did you, really? - Yeah, and I thought to myself-- - Is that Gary? - And then I just kept on driving. - Well, it was a black guy, right? - It appeared to be an African-American or a Latinx gentleman. - That's sad. It's always more sad when it's a black. - Is it? - Yeah. - Yeah, I would have gone the other way with that. I would have gone the other way with that and gone white. But for Joe Exotic, I think that's why, you know, a lot of people feel bad for his situation is, you don't see a lot of white guys in jail, you know? It's usually another race. - That's actually, I don't even know if that's really valid because I've been in jail a lot, dude. - We don't fact check here. - We don't fact, there are a lot of whites in there? - Where I'm from, it was all white and black, dude. There was like no Mexican people, Dayton, Ohio, man. - Oh, okay, well, yeah, Dayton, yeah, obviously. - It's probably different now. - Yeah, there's actually Mexicans where I'm from now. - Yeah, good for you. - They're everywhere. When's the last time you saw your own father? - It was in Kentucky, right? - Yeah, when I was on tour with laser. - When he got fucking arrested. - When he got me arrested, yeah, that was great. Thanks, Dad. - Yeah, yeah. Now's the point in the show, we get to the drinking bro of the week. Obviously, we want to give it to Joe Exotic for joining us today and getting, hopefully, getting him out of jail here. I don't want to put the cart before the horse, obviously, but we do want him free, we want him back in the streets, and we want him on the show, and we'll give him his own podcast here. We'll do a set and everything else, so he's more than welcome to be part of the tether ball. - Yep. - And he can gotta be idiots. He can live in with Joel in the show. - Joel, are you okay with that? If we pop him out in the trailer with you, you and Joe Exotic, we've got enough land back there that we could have a couple of tigers and whatnot. Dan, there is something that would be sick. - You can own anything in Texas. - But there's a tax exemption for, I believe it's steer, Bob, if you look at it. - We would technically qualify right now. I think it's three acres or more of land, I think, and then I think two steer, I believe. - If you go to certain neighborhoods in like Georgetown or out in drip even, you'll see a couple of steer on the property, and it's for a ranch exemption. - And I don't know if that would, since I don't know if this is his own commercially, and that's gonna make a difference, I don't know. But there's a neighborhood right there. - Yeah. - Like right behind us. So I don't think, I think maybe we should do it. - Just pop a couple of steer back there. - Or we can just dress Joel up in a fucking cow outfit. - That'd be fun. - Like that's our steer right there. Obviously they're gonna check to make sure that it's real. How would you make sure? - It's gonna start rectal, and then it'll go to the ball sack. - That's not gonna be a problem for him. - Yeah. - You think you'll be able to say, could you keep a tight upper lip there? - Do your best cow impression. - Yeah. - Wow. - Not a team player. - Wow. - Not a team player. - It's identical. No, cows are pretty subtle. - Yeah. - Oh. - Yeah, pretty subtle. What he just did right there, although the audience couldn't hear, it was pretty close there. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, you're dead, Gary. Always is when you pop by. - Yeah, man. Nothing is ever normal. I think Joel actually realizes that this is not a facade, not a character, and he realizes I'm completely insane. - Yeah, this is your life. And I'm gonna be honest with you. Now that this is over, I did not think in a million years that Joe Exotic would get on the fucking phone today. I was fully prepared to hammer you for another five minutes. - I was positive he would. Dude, I started out my fucking whole career interviewing John McAfee over and over again, just 'cause I tweeted him. - Ever table? - Really? - No. - Yeah, dude, last thing he said to me before he fucking died was, I will never hang myself in prison. Literally, last thing you ever said to me. - That sounds exactly like somebody, something somebody who was gonna hang themselves in prison would say. - Why you say that? - Do you think so? - Yeah, throw the scent off. I would do that. Tell, like, have everybody convinced that somebody's after me and I would never kill myself and then kill myself, just so everybody has to fucking talk about it forever. - Man. - Waste time, ruin people's lives. - No. - It breaks up relationships and families in shit. - No, no, no, no, dude. He, if he did do that, 'cause it is possible, I thought about that. Then he did it to just, like as a last fuck you to the government, basically. 'Cause that dude was, he was legit, he was the real deal, man. He was fleeing the government for tax evasion on his campaign donations. - Wasn't it murder? - What? - What? - No, no, no. - He killed a guy down in South America. - No, no, no. No, none of that shit's true. That whole documentary from Showtime about McAfee, where they're like, yeah, and girls shit in his mouth, was produced by a guy named Jeff Wise. And he did that because McAfee fucked his wife. It was a whole like sham piece, dude. - Really? - Yeah. - He was a big fan of that doc. (laughing) - What? - No, 'cause I envision him, 'cause there's a part where he's on a hammock. That sound well, I know the doc. It was a part where he's on a hammock and I thought to myself, man, I wonder if he was buck naked on this hammock, if he was just shitting through the hammock on the other people. - So check this out. If you actually look it up, if it still exists, there is interview footage with all those women from, it was in Belize, all those women on camera saying, they're like, yeah, Showtime paid us to say all these things. - Really? - Yeah. - So what was he like in real life? - He was definitely crazy and like, had definitely done a lot of drugs, took his mind to the fringes on drugs for sure, but he was smart as fuck. And he really understood how the system worked, which is to be able to totally grasp how the political system operates, I think takes someone that is somewhat of a genius. - You know what I mean? - I think he's a smart mother fucker, obviously. And he faked a heart attack to get out of jail and he fucking, and they framed him for that murder that you're talking about, Dan. - The murder of Gregory Fowl. - Yeah, like, I forget all the details, but that was another thing where he, that dude, everybody was throwing shit at that guy because he was super anti-authority. He was anti-system, so they wanted to frame him and try to put him in jail at every chance they could get. - Well, you know, he also got caught earlier in his career. I don't know if it was him or just the company, but they were creating viruses for his antivirus to solve. - Oh, yeah. - Norton got sued for that as well, but McAfee, I think, was the first one to add out. - So, you know what else is interesting is that I, I don't remember, like, this I'm not positive about, but I remember talking to him about some, I lost a bunch of this footage, by the way, 'cause I lost an SD card. I was at the strip club and I had to jump down this giant retaining wall and run away from these strippers that I owed money and the card fell in my pocket. I'm not even joking at all. - Sure, no, I didn't think you were. - The, I think that was the interview I did this on. - Fucking, he talked about how he was like planning on having a fucking, 'cause he had, McAfee had the antivirus stuff for the government and he had like put bugs into all the, he had like all the inside scoop on what all the government was doing. - Yeah. - And he was like releasing shit or plan on releasing it or some crazy shit. I don't remember the details of that, but. - Get back to us. - There'd be a reason why they would want to kill that guys, what my point was. - Yeah, for sure. - I mean, I kind of want to myself. - Same and why? - Well, just, he's a person and I don't like him. - He's already dead, dude. - Yeah, but you know. - That's my buddy. - All your necks. - Your necks, though. Put that bulletproof vest back on here. Joel, there's somebody at the door here, so we're gonna go ahead and end this in case this is the guy that is looking for you here. Appreciate you stopping by. It's everybody where they can find you, Gary Bear. @the.scary.gary on Instagram and it's Gary Faust on YouTube. And make sure you share all of my stuff on Instagram 'cause I've been restricted again because of the how me and Eli were, we'd cut a clip out of a podcast and we said faggot and they fucking took all the, went crazy. Oh, it's eight speech, whatever. - Yeah, sure, sure. So do everything that he just said and we'll see you soon. Hopefully we'll have that clip ready for fake news on Thursday of you out in the streets as well. For those of you out there, appreciate you tuning in. Go to iTunes, rate the show five star and leave a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away at that point. It's all the advertisers give a shit about and I've said it a thousand times. Just get it over 10,000. I'll shut the fuck up about it forever. For Dan, the new Dan, the new Holloway. Gary Bear. I'm Ross Patterson. 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