>> Save on a Riley break parts cleaner get two cans of a Riley break parts cleaner for just $8 valid in store only at O'Reilly auto parts. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Riley. Auto parts. >> All right, Jess, we are so lucky to have with us again, Brett and Kira. If you remember a few years back, we talked to them at solo Rola. They do these amazing camper conversions. We're going to get into all that right now. Thank you so much, guys. >> Well, thank you so much, guys, for joining us. >> Yeah, thanks for having us. We're excited to see you guys again. >> So last time we talked, you were doing some cool stuff for some, like, celebrities. Have you been working with celebrities? >> I think last time we talked, were we just finishing up-- >> Brett and Steve. >> Yes, yes. >> So we built a-- we took a 71. It was just a transporter, and we opened up the top and popped the top 40 inches and did a articulating solo array on there. That vehicle struck by a tree. >> Crushed by a tree. >> Yeah, it was a real hard breaker. It was probably our best work between the two of us. We were so in love with that vehicle. Brett, we drove it for a year without a hitch, and we just kind of came down. He had some questions, and we wanted to kind of check in with him and see the vehicle. And we were crashed there at breakfast in the morning, and Brooke, our daughter, comes running in. A tree fell in the cars. We had a Highlander at the time. But that's how we got our Tesla. Our Highlander got crushed. >> They both got crushed, so they both got totaled. They're like, "Well, all right, it's time to go full-in electric." >> Yeah, so a silver lining, I guess you could say. >> Yeah. >> It was a silver lining. He got what the vehicle was that we paid for. He got back from the insurance company. I actually bought the vehicle then from him. He bought from the insurance company. So we have the top here. I'm hoping I can kind of dial in a little bit better and put it back on, because it got hit in the front, so it's a little tweaked, but I think I can fix it, so it'll go on another VW. >> Now, our viewers watching may not know what you just said. You said articulating solar roof. >> Yeah, let's talk about what you guys work on, because we know, but our audience probably hasn't seen it. >> Yeah, so explain what does that mean? >> Well, it's just articulating. It just means that it moves and it's going to move based on some kind of control. And with solar, of course, we want to get our solar panels facing the sun as directly as possible to get the utmost power. Of course, on vehicles, there's a limited amount of real estate for solar, so you've really got to articulate it to get the maximum amount and get some significant amount of power from the sun on a vehicle. >> And just so everybody knows, just because we've been seeing some VW microbuses here, those typically were gasoline powered because they were made in the 60s and the 70s. You're talking about fully converting them over to an electric drive train, electric batteries, and then putting solar on the roof of them so that way you could charge them with the sun. >> Right, so a good point, because a lot of people see the vehicles with the huge solar, right? And they're wondering how they got refrigerators in there or whatever we're running in. It's like, it runs the vehicle. So yes, the VW was the ultimate vehicle to start with. It was like, you know, a classic, first of all, but it was really lightweight, good surface area on top of it, relatively easy to work on. I mean, it was just a adapter plate, no, the motor bolts right on. It's fine to place for the batteries, but yeah, it was a great conversion. And I mean, that vehicle always had kind of a marginal motor in it in the first place. So being able to put a really strong motor in place of, you know, a little bit weaker motor. I think some of them were like 30, 40 horse and the little electrics 100 horse. So quite an improvement there. And then, of course, the opportunity to not have to pay for gas or be encumbered by a gas station is also, it's perfect for the VW, the whole, you know, by the VW, everything, just chilling and charging off the sun. That was our first vehicle. >> Yeah. So people who are watching this now and are just kind of new to this, they might be thinking what I used to think, which was like, well, you probably can't go very far. So give us some stats. I mean, what can you typically do? How far can you go out, you know, out camping with your family in a solar powered, you know, conversion? >> Well, at first, when we started. >> Our VW, our very first one. >> Our first vehicle was, of course, where we started, had lead after the batteries and it had 1,000 watts of solar. It did, it articulated, so it did raise up and we could really face the sun in the morning. That's really a nice marriage, the solar powered vehicle in a camper, because in the morning time when you want to be facing the rising sun, your top is up and we like to put the beds up top, just, of course, to, you know, add space to the RV. And then, of course, same thing when you're getting ready for bed in the evening, you're following the sun down. So whether you have full articulating where you can just leave your vehicle parked, or, you know, as we've done with some vehicles, you know, you can get half the day with your vehicle in this position and maybe you just kind of turn around. You really want to get the most out of the sun, but then, like Joel Hayes from Util Sol kept telling me that his vehicle was usually ready to go before he was. So that was kind of a milestone. And that's really what I think what my heart is into with all of these projects is seeing those numbers. What's the reality of this? We can all talk about it, you know, until the sun goes down, but, you know, what, what do you really get? So I'm proud that here and I have actually gotten out there and seeing what these vehicles can get. So we pull maybe 15, 20 miles on our first vehicle. If I worked it, in other words, I was right there in the morning and moving the vehicle around. So as far as range with that one with the lead acid batteries when we first started started in 2015 and just let you know some lead acid batteries in there. So we were getting like 30 to 40 miles of range. But then we put a lithium set in and we were getting 100 miles of range. And so that was a big step up into the lithium world. And of course we've, you know, lithium since they're not technology is just rapidly. Changing and getting better and better. How have things been going in terms of parts? Like, I imagine when you first started, it was probably even hard to find solar panels, batteries, motors, stuff like that. Has that changed at all over the years? It has. Yeah, definitely. Redfish vehicle, the vehicle we just delivered, we used light leaf solar panels. So it's a really cool company, cool folks out of Canada, and they build these carbon fiberback solar panels. So they're using sunflower cells, super high power, high efficiency cells. But they sandwich them with a polymer on the top. And then they have actually like a half inch embossed carbon fiberback. So you can like stand on them. They're crazy. You know, every every panel has its advantages. And then it's the disadvantages. And it's such an intense equation because you want lightweight, but you also want stability and inertia with the whole system because it's about surface area, right? Getting it out there. And so, you know, that's, that's always a thing as far as getting more solar. Like, it's really not a limitation of volume or weight anymore with pounds. It's just now becoming, all right, if you want to pull two hundred miles a day out of the sun, you're going to have to do a lot of creative deployment. So that's really what we're up against. That was a solar powered vehicle company is, okay, what's the next thing? And it's fun because everybody's got an idea. Like red foods VW, as we first started talking about was when we went to onings off the side. So it's like with our first VW bus, you know, one panel on top, you know, if you're really chilling, it's fine, you know, camp. You know, the idea is that you're, you know, you're hanging out, you're swimming, you're hiking and your vehicle's charging. But, you know, of course, it's always fun to go to the next national park or have the opportunity to, you know, go further. So then the onings kind of hide underneath the main panel and then come out the side, which, you know, any of our EOS likes to have an awning and send them to the shade of the awning and that. So, so that's when it got up, started getting up here where we could pull like a hundred miles a day. So with red food, yeah, that's it's there. It's there. And, you know, we just delivered red foods. And this thing was probably 12, 13,000 pounds. And I pulled like 41 miles on a cloudy day. I mean, we had a sun in the morning, but then it clouded up really good. And I was watching the meter because this was my one chance to really task. We kind of had that motor out there and deliver, but we had a chance to chill out in the South mountains and use the vehicle kind of more how it's intended, which is, you know, you put out your onings and you set up shop and you hang out and enjoy the beauty. And when you're ready to go, your vehicle is ready to go. That's the equation. You know, it's just a service area, the articulation. And that's what's going to, you know, origami get better with time and more people working on it. So after the tree fell on Red Food's VW bus, it was a couple years after. That's when he was like, okay, I missed my solo roll. I miss, you know, driving a vehicle that's covered by the sun. Let's do something else. So that's when he commissioned us. I mean, we moved to Wisconsin. We started his E star, the vehicle that we just drove out to him. So saying they was person. We just drove out his E star. So we did the VW bus for him. And then we did the E star. We also did a little golf cart for him. Some other little, he's got all sorts of little, little electric vehicles around there. Nice. So you guys sell professionally to, you know, famous people, right? But how did you get started? How did you guys have to go to some kind of special training to do this? How did you learn how to do this? Well, I did a mechanical engineering degree at Michigan Tech, which I'm pretty close to right now. In fact, some of my old college buddies are jumping on board. It's really fun. It's really exciting. One of my college friends, all the zoo helped us with like our Arduino relay boards, basically the brain for the Red Food's E star. And we actually possibly have a little product coming out from that. And then I have one of my close friends who just arrived yesterday or two days ago. Like, we did CAD for Ford back in the day. He's already modeling up. We're pretty excited. We're working on the, an array for the Cybertruck. So, yeah. It's been a lot of interest lately. It's exciting. Yeah. So it's been something that we've talked about doing, you know, tops for our tussle bottle. Why? When we got it years ago, the Cybertruck lends itself more to that. You know, it's got a lot more surface area. It's almost the right angle. You know. Yeah. I know. I think we met the back like, you know, the part that covers the trunk is solar counts. It like looks like it in some of the images and stuff. Well, I guess what I'm asking is because you guys inspired us. We were talking before the show. Jesse and I were so inspired after learning from you guys, what you're doing. They were like, Hey, you know what? Let's convert a car ourselves. And so, you know, we converted a little MG midget. And we learned a lot. And I feel like before that project, we knew nothing. I mean, just the basics. And then after the project, I feel like it was like a college course, like learning with your hands, not to say that we could immediately repeat it again, but I feel like the next project wouldn't take, would it take us like 18 months? I feel like the next project would take us 10 months. I appreciate that. A lot of my respect goes out to you guys because, you know, you guys have been on the tussle end and, you know, the beautiful, complete it, perfect cars and, you know, and that's kind of where I've always seen you. And so to hear you dig it into, because now you know so much more about what's going on with your tussle and then you can apply that to a build and it's vice versa. And then we already come part of the development. So that's really cool. I appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you. And there's so many different aspects to it. There's a few that I want to touch on. But first, I just want to talk a little bit about solar powered vehicles. The only ones that are kind of like, they're not even really on the market today, but the ones that people can talk about are the light year one, which I think they've gone out of business. Sono Motors won, which went out of business, and then Aptara, which hasn't gone out of business yet. And we're very excited. But they've achieved what you guys have achieved, but they're doing it in a much different way. And in fact, not really what you've achieved because they're not getting anywhere close to the amount of solar power or miles per day. And they have the lightest, most aerodynamic, three-wheeled vehicle that you can possibly imagine, which is smart, because if you don't want to have a foldout array, you need to make it as light as possible and still have a ton of surface area, which they do with their beaver tail. But you've gone about it in a completely different way. What was the idea behind it? What was the impetus? What started you off? Because you said, you know, you took some lithium ion batteries and you converted VW microbus, and then you put some solar on the roof. What inspired you to do that? Well, it came quite a way before that with a golf cart that I built. So when Kira was pregnant with our son, I felt super helpless. So I'm like, what can I do? Well, you can drive your kid around, put him to sleep, right? So I couldn't justify burning gas. I'm like, all right, I'll build this electric off-court with solar panels. And whenever the baby's crying, I'll just throw him in there and drive around and boom, right? I don't know how much I actually drove the kid around. I think we used it more for hollywood, for pulling trees down, hollywood firewood. Yeah, that's the whole point. It was like, wow. You could drive around a neighborhood. We lived out. This is when we lived off-grid in California, Northern California. It was like, wow, this isn't just whatever. This is serious. If I can go with, you know, I can plug in my electric chainsaws to it and I can pull wood out and I can call it. And then I was like, man, I just want to go to the grocery store now. If I could just go to the grocery store with this thing, my life would be perfect. What here is that? Yeah, because I didn't think we'd go in this direction, but I do want to is golf carts typically have to be plugged in, right? Yeah. That's the first one. Oh, my God. That's awesome. I mean, this seems like a product, actually. So that baby, our son has turned, or he's turning 16, is a lie. Wow. So you got solar in his blood. Yeah, this was, you know, 2008, he was born. So like, for around then is when he started this first golf cart and put the solar panel on it, we've done, you know, quite a few of those for other people. Also, like I said, Red Fu has won his. It's really cool. It's got like four seats and we use thin film panels and rounded the top and everything. So it's, you know, it kind of looks like I have a picture of it with his E star. They're both like white and black with the solar in the same curved roof. It's like a little mini me. Yeah, he's had it for like three years and never charged it drives it all the time. That's awesome. That's really cool. So he's a believer. He's a really cool person. So he's a big advocate for the vehicles. But yeah, that golf cart kicked it off. So let me ask you, I feel like until you start getting your hands wet in solar, and by the way, we just are building a solar mobile trailer where we've got solar on the roof and we're learning about hybrid inverters and batteries. But until you do it, it feels like you don't understand that there is this free power from the sun. Like it's just, it's theoretically. And it's scary because, I mean, I think a lot of people, the only way that they're going to go solar is one of two ways, which is either they're going to call up a solar company and they're going to go look at their roof and take measurements. And then there's going to be a bunch of big strong guys with ladders. We're going to go up on the roof and they're going to install the panels and they have the no how or whatever. And then you're going to, oh, I have solar on my house and you didn't lift a finger. You didn't really do anything. You paid for it or you're paying for it. You didn't have to think about it at all. And there's boxes on your house and some of them make some noise and some of them. What does that do? What does that do? And there's a big switch and I shouldn't touch that. There's all that kind of, there's that way to do it. And then there's kind of the consumer micro electronics where you're either getting like a little battery bank that has a tiny little solar cell on it, which is like three steps up from a calculator. Or you go and you get one of those big battery things so you can clonk down on a table and, you know, run stuff and it could come with a solar panel and you can plug it in using the little thing. And then you go, wow, I'm doing solar. And I've done that before. It's really a fun experience to like plug in solar and then run stuff and you're like, oh my gosh, the battery is still at 100% even though I was doing something. But there's still this scary area where it's like and PPT controllers and like the solar panel. What does a real solar panel look like and what does it do? Can you kind of walk us through and demystify some of it because I've gone through the experience of having it demystified to me? Like, let's just start with a solar panel. What do we need to know about a solar panel so that way we can use it? I mean, like, do I need to be able to program to hook up a solar panel? No. No. And I think it's kind of typical with engineers, you know, they like to make everything seem so complicated because it's kind of an ego stroke. It's simple. There's a plus. There's a minus. Now, of course, you can take it down to the complex level. A solar panel has no moving parts and two wider plus and minus. And the wonderful thing is most people have a phone now and they know charge and discharge. So there's a broad range of people who know more than they realize. All right. Okay. Guess what? I have to charge my phone. It's running out. You know, hey, maybe if I turn off that app, my phone dies so soon. So along with the solar side of it, you start looking at efficiencies, wait, me bounty is much solar if I won't leave all these apps running. Let's see. Create this mentality that because of the way that electricity is distributed to us is coming out of the wall everywhere. We don't really think about that. But when you have like a closed system where the solar is coming in and you can either talk or you can't based on, you know, your planning and the weather. And it becomes amazing because you realize that you're really connecting with nature now. So you really have to think about some and what kind of day it is and what you need to do. And that's solar powered vehicles as well. That's anything solar. You just have to do a little bit more planning as someone is running a generator for you 24 cents. Sometimes that's nice, you know, to have that power immediately there. But it's not always there. And it's not always used in a way that we feel good. Well, and I mean, you started out in 2008 and in 2008, I don't even know if you could buy large lithium ion batteries. I don't think it was, I don't even see it. I don't think they made them. Now there's a million in one companies selling lithium ion batteries that go from anywhere from a drop in replacement for a golf cart, which would have made your life a lot easier back then. All the way up to completely integrated with plugs and inverters and you don't have to think about anything and they have the spots to plug in the solar. And everywhere in between with hybrid inverters, which can take solar, grid power and battery power and feed you whatever kind of power you want, whether that be, you know, 110 AC, which is what you normally get from the wall. And so talk to me, how has that changed the camper experience, specifically the living camping part, less so the driving part will get to that in a bit. Well, like the vehicles we're building, they're primarily outer stations, right? And then they're holes, and then they're a car. So if you look at it in that order, you see, I think you can see the value of it more because like, oh, okay, I have an independent power station. Right, cool, wow, I can live in that fully off grid. And then, oh, I can, because I'm getting more than I need to operate domestically, oh, I can go 200 miles. You know, and it's like mentioning all these devices coming out. And the trend that I'm noticing is this all in one, all in one, you know, MPPT controllers are now in the inverters and chargers are in the inverters. There's a unit coming out, the walrus, EBO, it's like the battery, everything, one unit, right? Trouble is, it's really hard to do an all-in-one with solar because of how solar needs a structure to be mounted on. So it's either got to be put in the ground solidly, mostly because it went, or it has to be on something like a vehicle to be a sound structure. I like to think that, you know, where everything is going is into this all-in-one, you know, even the lithium pack, if it's a good-sized pack, is heavy. So put it on wheels, right? All right, well, why push it? Power one of the wheels, you have all this power. Now, if I'm powering one of the wheels, why push it? Let's just get on there and steer it. So it all points, it all points towards putting the panels on the structure of the vehicle. We're all seeing this, all this market kind of pointing towards a certain direction. That's the way I feel when you ask about, you know, where is this all going with the campers? This feels like the early days of automobiles where people started to do this in their garage on the weekends with their kids. Like, oh, we can modify the car, or we can fix the car. And yet, it's so new, and the parts are so just coming into, you know, availability that I feel like people don't see the wave coming, but I feel like it is coming. There will be this day where you'll walk down the street and people in their garages will be tinkering with solar and motors and conversions. Because a lot of this stuff isn't all that hard. Like, it's involved, you have to know what you're doing, but... It's not like a timing belt or something. Like, exactly. Right. I mean, a lot of this is... Yeah, like, a lot of it's wiring. While wiring can be a little intimidating for some people, I feel like once you kind of start to understand it and how to, you know, make crimps and, you know, get good attachments and solder if you have to, you're like, oh, okay. It's not a big investment other than the copper in a lot of cases in terms of the tools. Like, I think we went to Harbor Freight one day and we bought like a big, like, hydraulic crimper. That was like the best thing we ever got. And that's one of the most expensive wiring tools we've ever used. The rest of it's like drilling holes so you can get wire into places and then making sure that the water doesn't get into the hole. Like, it's like, it's that level of it. Jesse in our week is just excuses to go get more tools to build more bags. Like, it's so fun. Right. I hear you. We're talking about, like, other folks being able to cross the board or tinkering in their garages. And this stuff is becoming more accessible. And the part that I really appreciate about what you guys are doing is, you know, you're doing some of your own conversion. If it's always that we have to take this stuff to a dealer and have somebody else fix it for us, then it is not as much freedom there. And to me, this is all about freedom, right? We can get our own energy from the sun. We can do our own thing with it. We can decide how we want to, you know, utilize that energy. But if something goes wrong and we can't do anything about it, there's where our freedom is. You know, and it's like, that's why soul roller is always going to be who we are is going to be trying to build the simplest vehicles we can and make them accessible so that you can change your component. And also like read through display, curated all the coding should all the display amazing work over here by this young lady. You know, you're looking at your, your cell voltages. You're looking at your module temperatures. Like, it's not this like, oh, there's an empty and a full gauge. It's like you have all of the pertinent information right there. And I think people can handle that. I really do because I think I see people with their phones, they're handling that, right? They could manage that power system, you know, as well, because it's like a processing a little bit and, and you're there. It gets a little freaky with the high voltage. You've got to be in the right end space. And I think that's another important element here. It's always been important for me. It is the vibe of slowing down. And it's kind of like the tortoise in the hair. You slow down, but you win the race. So it's all about, well, they don't have fast. You're going. You have to know where you're going, right? With the tortoise in the hair, you know, if it's a race, you want to get to the finish line first. But with camping, you know, what's the goal? The goal is to relax. The goal is to be with nature. And the solar really lends itself to that because yes, you maybe have to spend a couple of days in a beautiful place. I know it's difficult, but hiking, doing whatever, while your vehicle charges, you know, because we get, of course, a lot of comments on the road. Oh, I could never do that. And it's like, it breaks my heart. You know, a lot of people, they can't. Time is the most valuable thing we have. And not everybody has a ton of that. But what I like about these vehicles and where it's going is it can be your office space. Now with so much remote work, you could wake up at the Grand Canyon and do your work there online with your star, like, you know, and then you could wake up at Yosemite and continue working and be connected there. So the opportunities for what I think is like more natural human movement, right? Just following the sun. We're in the winter here in Wisconsin and we're ready to go deliver red-fused vehicle in Malibu, you know, it's, it's perfect. You know, it's crazy. I think the last time we talked, two big things happened, right? Starlink was a thing, but it wasn't ready for prime time yet, I believe. So now, now we're talking about, yeah, you can go somewhere and just be as if you were in New York City. You're on the internet. And the other thing is you guys got a Tesla, and I guess I'm really interested because we've come closer to you learning how to convert and solar and all this stuff. But I think last time we spoke, you hadn't, you didn't own a Tesla. So I'm curious. That's true. Like, have you, what have you gotten out of being a Tesla owner that's changed at all? Yeah, I mean, when we got it, it was like, do we want to do this? Do we not? You know, we didn't have the time to build ourselves, you know, a daily driver at that time with the other jobs going on. And so we're like, well, it'll be good market research. The car is awesome in so many ways. Living in Wisconsin traction control in the winter is amazing. Yeah, we've had a lot of issues with our heat pump and be a negative 20 in it, blowing freeze in cold air and his father who just passed. But we moved here largely in part to help take care of him. You know, he's in the car, any seven years old. Great reason why is it working and, you know, we ended up eventually having to get our, our heat pump replaced. And of course it had been out of warranty by that time by like a few miles. But I had it in three times the winter before and they refused to do anything and said it was fine and there's nothing wrong. Just put it on auto. So I did have to fight with them quite a bit and got them to replace it for free. But that is the thing that we found with it is it's very much controlled by the manufacturer. We can't touch it. We can't do anything. We don't know what's wrong with it if we have an issue, which is very different than our vehicles and what we're used to. I still love it. It's great for travel. We've driven across the country so many times in it. And that really the superchargers is what makes that vehicle what it is in my opinion is like the supercharger network. It allows you to be able to travel at a more gas powered rate. I feel like I've seen other projects you've worked on. You have a solar powered scooter and as soon as we started doing solar stuff, we immediately just started brainstorming. Like, let's do a solar carport and let's do a solar powered patio and let like solar just put solar powered the word in front of every project. And I think that's what happens, right? It just turns your brain into like, oh my God, with batteries and solar, there's so many things you can do. That's what I wanted our tagline to be will solar power your mom. It's been a lot of potential taglines, a little panel on it. That's a good one. It does crack open your creativity. Well, and now it's like we've got property, we have animals, we've got gardens, so it's like we've got an electric four wheeler. It doesn't have solar panels on it right now, but we've got to operate it and plug it into. Yeah, it's like he did the lawnmower when we first moved here. He just converted his dad's old 30s tractor that they used to ride on when he was a kid making hay. He just converted that to electric, put a big old snow blower on the front and then we didn't even get any snow this winter. For sure, there's so many things to do. Well, I want to talk a little bit about the conversion part, especially with the car or vehicles in general, because I've noticed that there's basically one really sticky point when you're converting a vehicle from gas to electric, and that is that you take the thing that used to power the vehicle and you quickly realize that the whole job of the engine of a car is to produce a spinning motion, and it's connected up perfectly into a system that moves that spinning motion all the way to the wheels and spins the wheels to make you move forward. And then you go, great, well, I don't need that spinning thing and you chuck that out, and then you want to bring in your other spinning thing, an electric motor, and then you hold them next to each other and you go, how do I work? And it doesn't work because there's no way to connect the spinning thing to the other spinning thing. And of course, most electric motors were designed to be plugged into some kind of like pulley system that was going to run a pump or something, and so you go like, oh, connect to the spline. I need to connect to a spline or some kind of a drive shaft, and that is the thing that I think would stop most people when, because if you told someone like, you can convert this and you take out the engine, you put an electric motor, I many a couple times. We've done this like two or three times because we worked our way up to this. We did a ride on mower, completely ripped apart a ride on mower. We found, you know, where the belt would go to the rear differential, and I was like, perfect, we'll just spin this. And it was like, how? Because it's like a pulley shaft, and I could have either hooked up a pulley, which I didn't want to do a pulley, I wanted to do direct drive. And I think what we ended up doing was just taking like pieces of metal and like putting them together. It's the stupidest thing, like it's basically like the poorest man's universal joint, and it's just, and it clicked and clacked. It sounded, it was louder than the original gas engine. It was like, I'm like, damn it, like this is supposed to be so quiet and cool. How have you dealt with this problem, the coupling problem? Well, you know, like the VW's had kits. So there was already, when I started converting, there was already a kit. The coupler goes on to the motor, bolts right to the clutch, and then the adapter plate bolts the outside of the motor to the outside of the transmission. So stupid easy. But like on our mower, I just put the pulley on the motor and ran that belt back. And then like the tractor was totally different. I had to machine a coupler. So I have a small lathe, it's manual. It's really a great, amazing tool. But that's kind of also where the CAD comes in, because you can design something. And it's like a wonderful thing about the time period we live in. We can, we can send dial out and get a art bag made out of stainless steel. Did a 10, 100 thousands of an inch and it's crazy. So that pretty quick turnaround on that. But yeah, it does take a little bit of engineering. You can either, you know, have somebody at a machine shop do it for you pretty quick. Just kind of show them the meeting parts or yeah, you can dive into it. Do the CAD file. There's a lot of free CAD out there now. And then just fire that file off to somebody. There's a lot of machine shops that can kind of help you out because they do a lot of that coupling. Because people put different gas motors in different transmissions and that. So adapter plates have been, you know, something in the 50s. Guys were always building those, you know, to put this motor in that car. And it is very much like that. It reminds me of like hot rotting in the 50s. Cause that's all I grew up like street ride, you know, street riding is you take the best of everything. Right. Let's grab that motor. I like those seats. I like that body. I like, you know, this transmission and you put it all together. And so all we're doing is like, hey, now we have the access to battery powered electric systems that we can charge off the sun. Come on. Let's add that to the mix with our favorite type of vehicle. But I do think the camper end of things does really lend itself to a solar power vehicle. Right. So what is the future for you guys and how if people are watching now and they want to learn more about you guys and maybe even get you guys to make them a camper, how can they get in touch with you? So our website is www.solarola.com. All social media platforms, solar all. And we recently started doing patreon. So that's kind of something we're wanting to push a little more. And we're putting more like behind the scenes kind of stuff on there in the little more tech stuff. That's another way that people can, you know, help support us and also like get a little bit more information. You can either contact us through our website or email is B.L.A. in at solarola.com. I just want to add to that for you. I think that if you are thinking about during the conversion, having folks like Brett and Kira in your corner would be invaluable. I know there are plenty of times during our project where I was like, who can we ask? So joining their patreon is probably a really smart idea. And just because you're going to get to see all the things they're working on behind the scenes, like you mentioned, get inspired by them and also probably have someone you can reach out to when you've got a question because these guys know what they're talking about. Yeah, and we, you know, I'm very good about answering people's comments and stuff on there. Sometimes on social media, things get a little bit more lost. But I feel like patreon is a good way for people to communicate with us. And also, you know, we're trying to figure out if there's a way to do like a poll or a survey on there and kind of start asking people, hey, these are kind of, you know, we've got lots of little projects that we want to do. And if we can, you know, bring it to them and be like, hey, what would you love to see? What are you most interested in? And let that kind of, you know, pull some of our projects too and kind of cater to what people want to learn about. Yeah, the excitement is fun to share. So Brett and Kira, you guys have a YouTube channel, right, where you do lots of cool stuff. Can you tell viewers how they can find that? Solerola, let's look up Solerola. Yeah, we have a lot of build videos where we've gone through, you know, start to finish. And I bought Redfuse, VW Bus. I've got all the footage for Redfuse Estar that I'm going to start putting up their trip videos. Trying to get into doing more shorts also, just kind of get smaller things up there more frequently. But yeah, join us on YouTube. It's great to see a lot of more, you know, longer videos and depth. Nice. That's so valuable because I feel like when you're working on a project, there's nothing better than seeing someone experience doing it. And you go like, oh, that's how you do it. Yeah, I see there's a video on your YouTube channel. Is that an electric snowmobile? Yes, it is. All right. Well, we'll let everyone go check that out because that sounds awesome. I think we should start a little race with these guys. I heard that they want to build an electric converted pontoon boat like we do. I think we should start the clock right now and see who gets it done first. No, I think we will definitely lose. But, but which one's faster in the water? Yeah, that's a real race. Is that what pontoon boats are supposed to do? They're supposed to go slow. Which one's more relaxing? Okay. Which one can fit more beer on board and keep it cool? Oh, that's a good one. All right. And the kid said that it's got to pull the tube and be fun. Right. Yeah. All the pontoons are like a little bit slow. So we've got to get ours a little bit faster. So the pontoon's more. So there's going to be a lot of categories. Pulling the tube is more fun. Yeah, we're going to have diving board category slide. Slides. Not a slide. Yes. His sister just told us we need to start looking for a slide. Nice. All right. So comment below who you think is going to win that race. That's good. It's always good to have competition. Yeah. Come on. All right. Now we really have to do that. All right. We got to go. All right. We got to go pick it up. We put some money down on it. We got to go pick it up. You're already ahead of us. Oh, that's no good. All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us guys. We'll see you next time. Always a pleasure. All right. Bye. Bye. Good luck. America. 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