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ICYMI: The Ghislaine Maxwell Deposition (Part 8)

Our look into the dark underbelly of the Epstein operation continues in this episode as we begin our look at the Ghislaine Maxwell deposition in full.


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06 Jul 2024
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See terms at racing.fanduel.com. Gambling problem, call 1-800-Gambler. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up right where we left off with the Galain-Maxwell deposition. So, let's just get right back to it, shall we? Macaulay? Let's go to the next page, which is going to be redacted. I want you to look out line so the date is at the top, so it's redacted, and if you go down, you will see a line that says "the redacted" and if you scroll over, you will see PBI to TIST. If you look at the airport codes, TIST is going to be representative for the US Virgin Islands, and then you will see the list on the plane, JE, GM redacted, and Virginia Roberts. Do you recall flying from Palm Beach to the US Virgin Islands with Jeffrey yourself redacted and Virginia Roberts? Mr. Pagliuca, I object to the form, and just so the record is clear, we don't agree with whatever your characterizations are. The document speaks for itself, and she can answer based on whatever her personal knowledge is. Macaulay? I understand. Macaulay? Do you recall flying with those individuals from Palm Beach to the US Virgin Islands? Galain-Maxwell, I have no recollection of any individual flights you are pointing out here. I'm asking about 2001, how many years ago is that? Macaulay responds to that, I'm asking the questions. Maxwell, I'm not being difficult, I'm just asking, it's like 14-15 years ago, it's impossible, I'm sorry. Macaulay, so your testimony is you don't recall flying on that flight with Virginia Roberts? Maxwell, I cannot testify to that flight. Macaulay, let's look at the next flight which is on the redacted from the Virgin Islands back to Palm Beach, J.E., Jeffrey Epstein, Galain-Maxwell, redacted Virginia Roberts, the same individuals on the above flight. Maxwell, it doesn't say my name, it has some initials. Macaulay, I understand, the initials, GM. Do you recall flying on a plane on one of Jeffrey's planes from the Virgin Islands, the Palm Beach, with Virginia Roberts? Maxwell, I do not. Macaulay, was there any other person that flew with Jeffrey Epstein with frequency during that time period in these logs that have the initials, GM? Mr. Pagliuca, objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I would have to look at all the flight logs, I have no idea, I flew frequently. Macaulay, why don't you take a look at the next three pages and see if that refreshes your recollection, Mr. Pagliuca, you are talking about redacted. Miss Macaulay, she can pick any couple of pages, those have a lot of the individuals on them, so that is a good sampling. Mr. Pagliuca, so pick any pages you want. Macaulay, does that refresh your recollection at all as to whether GM represents you or some other individuals? Maxwell, again, I can't testify whether that represents me or not. I don't see any other GMs, but you have to understand, that even if my name is on that record, that doesn't mean I was on the flight. Just interject here, well what does it mean then, you vile disgusting bipedal serpent? Macaulay, so are you contesting the accuracy of the flight logs? In other words, you said it doesn't represent you or on the flight, so is it your testimony, just because the name is listed doesn't mean they were actually on the flight? Mr. Pagliuca, objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I can't testify to what these are records that were produced by redacted is on here, so these aren't federally mandated records, so I can't testify to what he produced. Macaulay, I would like you to turn the page at the bottom, the bait's number is redacted, and the month is redacted. Maxwell, okay, Macaulay, if you go down to the number that is redacted, that would be redacted, you're going to see on that line, and redacted, which is a redacted, and then you will see redacted, which is going to be, I'm going to pronounce it incorrectly, redacted, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that correctly. Then you will see in the list, you will see JE, GM redacted, redacted, redacted, it looks like Maxwell interjects, I believe it says mail. Macaulay, yes, then redacted, I believe, is that GM on this page, representative of you? Maxwell, well, this would be a flight that I would potentially remember with redacted on it, but I don't actually recall going to Russia. Macaulay, are those your initials, do you recall being on that flight? Maxwell, those are my initials with redacted, I don't recall this flight either, but I would be more likely to if I had a bit more time to study the timing of this. Macaulay, your testimony is you don't recall flying with redacted, from redacted, to redacted? Maxwell, I don't recall the redacted to redacted flight, I have definitely flown with redacted. Macaulay, on that same page, you will see beneath there, beneath twenty-two, you will see the indication same as above, same as above, same as above, in the column that originally had the initials. Maxwell, yeah, Macaulay and the names, Maxwell, uh-huh, Macaulay, do you recall flying with redacted and redacted from redacted to redacted? Maxwell, I do, Macaulay, so the GM that would be represented in that column would be you? Maxwell, I recall going to redacted with redacted, so that is likely to be me. Macaulay, so you were on Jeffrey's plane for that trip? Maxwell, I believe I was. Macaulay, do you know who redacted is? Maxwell, I do not. Macaulay, I'm going back towards the front, which is going to be redacted please, and you're going to see Maxwell, hang on, I'm not. Macaulay, take your time. Maxwell, okay. Macaulay, you are going to see in the day column, you will see redacted, and then about half way down, you will see redacted, then you will see the redacted, which is the column, which is where I want you to start looking at the log, and there, you're going to see a whole bunch of redacted. Maxwell, okay, Macaulay, if you look at the column, if you go back up to the top on the redacted, if you look at the column, you will see J.E., GM redacted, Virginia Roberts, and I believe it says redacted, sorry, I'm not reading that very well. Do you recall flying from, if you see the dates, the redacted, do you recall a trip that went from the United States to redacted, and to the places I just mentioned, where Virginia Roberts was on the plane with you, Mr. Pagliuca, objection to the form, and the foundation? Maxwell, I already testified that I don't recall Virginia on any of these flights. Macaulay, I would like to mark as Maxwell 7, I will put it at the top. Maxwell exhibit 7, photo marked for identification. Mr. Pagliuca, has this document been produced in discovery? Miss Macaulay? Yes? Mr. Pagliuca? Do you have a Bates number? Miss Macaulay? This one doesn't? Miss Macaulay, I'm going to ask you, to this, Pagliuca interjects. I don't recall seeing this document, so I would like to see a Bates number document before we ask questions about it. Macaulay, can you go look for it, and I will continue? We will set that aside until we get the Bates number. You may want to leave that log up, and set it to the side, and we will bounce back to that. Macaulay, do you recall, I think earlier, you said you visited Jeffrey's Island? I think they called it St. Jeffrey, or St. James, the US Virgin Island home. Maxwell, yes, St. James? Macaulay? Do you recall whether redacted was ever on that island? Maxwell? Categorically, definitively, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, when I was present, or any other time that I am aware of, was redacted ever on that island, I do not believe he went to that island ever, ever, that is an absolute fabrication, and an absolute flat-out lie. Macaulay was redacted ever at Jeffrey Epstein's homes, when you were present, other than the island, I know you said that did not happen, the home in either New York or Palm Beach, or New Mexico? Maxwell, I do not believe at any time redacted was at any of Jeffrey's homes, I have absolutely no knowledge or otherwise that he was ever there. My guess is they are talking about Clinton here. Macaulay, you don't recall having dinner with him at any of those homes? Maxwell, again, Virginia is absolutely totally lying, this is the subject of defamation about Virginia and the lie she is told, and one of the lies she told was that President Clinton was on the island, where I was present, absolutely 1,000% that is a flat-out total fabrication and the lie. Just to add here, we have other witnesses who have said they saw Bill Clinton on the island, so there's that. Macaulay, you did fly planes, Jeffrey Epstein's planes with President Clinton, is that correct? Maxwell, I have flown yes. Macaulay, would it be fair to say that President Clinton and Jeffrey are friends? Maxwell, I wouldn't be able to characterize it like that, no. Macaulay, are they acquaintances? Maxwell, I wouldn't categorize it. Macaulay, he just allowed him to use his plane. Maxwell, I couldn't characterize Jeffrey's relationship. Macaulay, when you were on the plane with Jeffrey and President Clinton, did you observe Jeffrey and Clinton talking? Maxwell? I'm sure they did. Macaulay, did they seem friendly? Maxwell, I don't recollect. Macaulay was Epstein, one of the original people that conceived the redacted, Mr. Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Macaulay, do you know? Maxwell, I don't have, I don't have any idea what you're talking about. Macaulay, you don't know what I'm talking about? Did you ever, not at one of the houses, but did you ever eat dinner with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell, are you just talking in general anywhere? Macaulay, in general? Maxwell, I believe on a plane of this nature, we would have had a meal. Macaulay, but not outside of the travel on the flights. We all have somewhere we're trying to get to. As the largest energy producer in Colorado, Chevron is helping meet rising demand and we're working to do it responsibly. Our next-gen, tankless facilities reduce the greenhouse gas emissions of our operations by more than 90% compared to our older designs. 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Meanwhile, let's not forget that the Daily Beast reported that Bill Clinton and Golan Maxwell had an intimate meeting and the dinner together at a restaurant. So is Bill Clinton ever going to be held accountable or is everybody just going to go around and make pretend that this dude wasn't up to his ears in Epstein bullshit? McCauley. But he may have had a meal on Jeffries plane. Maxwell, I'm sure he had a meal on Jeffries plane. McCauley, do you know how many times he flew on Jeffries plane? Maxwell, I don't. McCauley, do you know who redacted is? Maxwell, I do. McCauley, how do you know him? Maxwell, he used to work or still works for redacted. McCauley, did you ever have a relationship with him? Maxwell, we are talking about adult consensual relationships. It's off the record. McCauley, I'm not asking what you did with him. I'm asking if you ever had a relationship with him. Mr. Paglioca, if you understand the term relationship, certainly you can answer that. Maxwell, the fine relationship. McCauley, somebody that you would have spent time together with, either seeing them in a romantic relationship or Maxwell interrupts, you need to be, what do you mean by romantic? I was friends with redacted, but you were suggesting something more. So I want to be clear what you were actually asking me. McCauley, you defined it. You said you were friends with them. If that's what you were, that's all I need to know. While you were on the trip with redacted, do you recall where you stayed at these locations? In other words, would you leave the jet and stay overnight at a hotel? Do you have recollection of this trip? Maxwell, I recollect the trip, but if you're asking me where we stayed, you can see it's a very fast-paced trip. It was very tiring and I don't recollect where we stayed. McCauley, do you recollect if you stayed at the same place, redacted stayed, and other words, if you left the plane to go to a hotel, did you all go together, is your recollection? Maxwell, I honestly don't recollect, no. McCauley, part of this trip we were just talking about, there is a flight that goes to Thailand. Do you remember being in Thailand? Mr. Pagliuka, objection to the form, and foundation. Maxwell, are you asking me? To that, meningerant erupts. On the redacted trip. Maxwell, are you referencing something? Major, the part that, let me make sure that I've got it here. The entry that would be the Thailand, would be the one, let me make sure I'm correct. I have you on the wrong page, it's actually the page before, it's going to be redacted, and it's going to be the entry on redacted, starting on redacted, and then it goes down to where it has the same as above, to redacted, I'm saying redacted. Mr. Pagliuka, that's what the document says. McCauley, I'm not representing the date, but there it is. So the last leg of that, where it says same as above, has the second to last, I'm sorry on the redacted, redacted. Do you remember being in Thailand with redacted? Maxwell, I do. McCauley, do you remember what the purpose of the trip was? Maxwell, I don't. McCauley, do you know whether, do you recall, did you stay the night in Thailand? Maxwell, I don't recall. McCauley, do you recall why you went to Thailand? Maxwell, I don't recall. McCauley, who is redacted? Maxwell, she, I believe, was the stewardess on the flight. McCauley, did she perform any massages on the flight? Maxwell, I don't recollect any massages on the flight. All right, folks, so we're going to wrap up this episode right here, and then next episode we'll pick up where we left off. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. An official message from Medicare. 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