Beyond The Horizon

The Jeffrey Epstein Grand Jury Documents (Part 6) (7/3/24)

In February 2024, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed HB 117, which allows for the release of grand jury documents from the 2006 investigation of Jeffrey Epstein. This legislation permits the disclosure of grand jury testimony if the subject of the inquiry is deceased, the investigation was about sexual activity with a minor, and the testimony was previously disclosed by a court order.

The bill, effective July 1, 2024, aims to provide transparency and justice for Epstein’s victims by revealing previously sealed grand jury proceedings. This move has been celebrated by victims and advocates as a significant step toward accountability and justice.

Epstein's 2006 investigation involved the Palm Beach Police Department, which had recommended multiple felony charges, including unlawful sexual activity with a minor and lewd or lascivious molestation. However, the State Attorney at the time chose to present the evidence to a grand jury, resulting in the details and names of those involved remaining sealed.

HB 117's passage was supported by two of Epstein's victims, who joined Governor DeSantis in Palm Beach to mark the occasion. Governor DeSantis emphasized that the public deserves to know who participated in Epstein’s sex trafficking and that wealth and status should not protect individuals from facing justice. Representative Peggy Gossett-Seidman also highlighted the significance of this legislation for the victims and the Palm Beach community that suffered from Epstein's actions.

And now those documents are available for us to dive into.

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Epstein transcripts - DocumentCloud

Duration:: 16m
Broadcast on:: 03 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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During the statement, she gave me approximately six names that she can remember that she took to the house that all went to redacted school. Bella Hovlic, who did redacted tell you? She took to the house. Answer, arm redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, and the 14-year-old victim redacted. Bella Hovlic, redacted, okay. Did you ask, redacted, if she told these people what to expect when she took them to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer, she explained that all the girls knew what was to be expected. The more you did, the more money you made. She explained that there was going to be a massage or some possible touching, and you would have to provide the massage either topless or naked. Bella Hovlic, and she told you that she told redacted that. Answer, she said that she told all the girls that. Bella Hovlic, okay. During your conversation with redacted, did she refer to herself as somebody famous? Answer, on the ride back to her house, she stated that when she was, she was like Heidi Flice, the Hollywood madam, that provided girls to clients. Bella Hovlic, did redacted. You may have told me this all earlier, and I apologize. If I didn't hear it, did redacted undress when she provided the massage? Answer, yes, she provided the massage naked. Under the direction of, he's interrupted here by Bella Hovlic, not just down to her underwear. Answer, no, I believe it was naked. Bella Hovlic, okay, did, was there any indication of a vibrator like redacted describe with redacted? Answer, no, but she was aware of the vibrator. Bella Hovlic, from redacted? Answer, vibrator slash massager. Bella Hovlic, okay, was redacted, paid money? Did she tell you for bringing these other girls? Answer, yes. Bella Hovlic, how much? Answer, she was paid approximately 200 for every girl she brought. Bella Hovlic, just one time per girl, or every time she brought a girl, did she get another 200? Answer, every time she brought a girl, she got 200. Bella Hovlic, even if it was the same girl, over and over? Answer, correct. Bella Hovlic, okay, all right. You found the card that says for a good time call redacted. You were able to identify her as redacted? Answer, correct. Bella Hovlic, did you get a statement from redacted? Answer, yes, I did. At that time, redacted was already attending college. She had started, redacted. She stated that nothing inappropriate had occurred originally, and then explained that, you know, he had Epstein had tried to touch her on several occasions. Bella Hovlic, did she change her statement at some point to you? Answer, well, originally, she started off saying that nothing inappropriate had occurred. Further questioning, she had changed, that there was additional things that had happened. Bella Hovlic, okay, what did she say? The additional things were that happened. Answer, there was attempted touching. He caressed her buttocks cheeks. All the while he had, he had introduced the vibrator, but did not. She did not allow a vibrator to be used on her. She described the vibrator having a huge head on the tip of the vibrator, white in color. Bella Hovlic, now was this. It progressed in the first time. She was there to just massage the touching to vibrator, or were there numerous times she went to his house. Answer, numerous times that she went to his house. This all progressed as more times. She came to the house, more things started to occur. Bella Hovlic, how many times did she go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer, off the top of my head. I, she stated that she had been there many times. Bella Hovlic, all right, the last known time that she told you was about when. Answer was in October, the last time Mr. Epstein was in town, October 3rd or 4th of 2005. Bella Hovlic, okay, do you know any of the other girls that say they went to his house after 2005? Answer, no, I don't believe Mr. Epstein has been back. He learned of the investigation in October. Bella Hovlic, okay, was she paid by Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, yes, Bella Hovlic, do you know how much she was paid? Answer, she was paid between 200 and 300. Bella Hovlic each time, answer each time that she went. Bella Hovlic, did she get any other compensation other than money from him? Answer, she also received a rental car. Bella Hovlic, okay, were you able to confirm through the rental car that it was rented by Mr. Epstein or someone in his employee? Answer, rented by, it was rented by Mr. his houseman, Janice Banacic, and the credit card of Mr. Epstein. Bella Hovlic, okay, were you able to get a statement from the person you identified as redacted? Answer, that's correct. Bella Hovlic, when did that occur? Answer, on October 10th, I had made phone contact with her. She was up in redacted, Florida, and I had explained to her that I was conducting this investigation. Mr. redacted began to cry. Explain that she had been to the house hundreds of times, started going at the age of 16, when she was still attending redacted school, where she was offered to $200 for 30 minutes of work. Bella Hovlic, how was she introduced to him? Answer, she was taken to him by a friend of hers who also had gone to redacted school, redacted, redacted. Bella Hovlic, okay. Answer, she was taken to the house. She would have to perform this massage naked. Bella Hovlic, she knew that before she went. Answer, that was explained to her by redacted. Bella Hovlic, okay. What did she describe about the first visit to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer, she recalled that the appointment was set up for that same day. They contacted Mr. Epstein's assistant, Sarah, later identified as Sarah Kellen, where the appointment was made. She was taken. She remembered it was on the weekends because she only worked on the weekends, and she was still going to high school. She was taken upstairs to the master bedroom. She could observe in the spiral staircase up to the bedroom area, where there were photographs of naked women throughout the house. Bella Hovlic, adult women? Answer, I believe so. Bella Hovlic, okay. She goes upstairs. What happens upstairs? Answer, she's taken into the room. The room is set up. The massage tables are set up. Ointments are put out by Sarah Kellen. Epstein enters the room and introduces himself to her. He lays on the massage table and asks her to get comfortable. She stated that she couldn't remember if she provided the massage naked, but knows that she removed. She had, I'm sorry, she had rubbed his legs, thighs and feet. All during this time, Epstein turned on his back so that he could rub his chest and he started to masturbate. Bella Hovlic, okay. Answer, which was another thing. One of the other girls, every time there was a massage, Epstein would masturbate himself. Bella Hovlic, was she able to see his penis or was it under the towel, he had come out in? Answer, he had exposed his penis to her, removed the towel, which made it visible. Bella Hovlic, how long did this go on? Answer, she had been to his house over in a two year period that she stated hundreds of times. Bella Hovlic, I meant the masturbation. Answer, oh, it was for several minutes. Bella Hovlic, okay, did he touch her at all that first time? Answer, I believe he did use the vibrator on her if I recall. Bella Hovlic, I'm going to direct you to page 39, second full paragraph, halfway down. Okay, Bella Hovlic, I believe your report says Epstein touched her breast. Answer, yes, Bella Hovlic, okay, so at that point, he touched her breast, do you recall? Answer, right, Bella Hovlic, if the vibrator was used at first time or if it was just the touching? Answer, yes. Bella Hovlic, of her breast? Answer, no, he did touch her breasts as he masturbated. Bella Hovlic, was she paid money for the visit? Answer, $200? Bella Hovlic, did she go back to his house? Answer, yes, she did. Bella Hovlic, and I guess you've told us for about two years, she went back. Is that a yes? Answer, yes, correct. Bella Hovlic, she estimates over 100 times. Answer, yes, she does. Bella Hovlic, did the situation with redacted progress? Answer, it did. During the timeframe that she was attending there, over the two-year period, she stated that every time she went there, it didn't have to be involving the massage or any kind of sexual encounter. At times she would go, she would end up just having dinner or talking with Epstein. At one point, Epstein introduced his other assistant, Nadia Marcin Kova. She explained that he had bought her from Yugoslavia to the United States to be a sex slave. Bella Hovlic, were you able to confirm that? Answer, I know that she is here on a visa, a modeling visa. Bella Hovlic, you don't know the purpose she's here other than that you were able to contact and confirm the visa. Answer, yes, Bella Hovlic, okay. Answer, she's here for a visa. Bella Hovlic, what did redacted describe as the progression of sex acts? Answer, he introduced Nadia into their routine. Bella Hovlic, so it became a threesome at some point? Answer, right. Bella Hovlic, okay. Answer, he had asked, redacted to perform oral sex on Nadia, redacted originally had refused. He enticed her by giving her additional monies to perform this act for five minutes. Bella Hovlic, how much additional money? Answer, 200, 200 dollars extra. Bella Hovlic, and then she agreed. Answer, at which point, she agreed. Bella Hovlic, okay, was it always just the masturbating in front of redacted and sex acts with Nadia or were there additional sex acts with Jeff Epstein? - It is Ryan Seacrest here. There was a recent social media trend which consisted of flying on a plane with no music, no movies, no entertainment. But a better trend would be going to chumbacocino.com. It's like having a mini social casino in your pocket. 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Who purchased the sex toys? Answer Nadia. Belahovlic was redacted with her when they were purchased. Answer, it is yes. Belahovlic, okay. Answer, it was for Epstein's. Belahovlic interrupts so redacted and Nadia went to purchase the sex toys. Answer for Epstein's birthday, correct. Belahovlic, okay, and during that time that he penetrated her vagina, she was either 17 or 18, you're not clear which. Answer right. Belahovlic, okay. Answer, it was, this was towards the end because after that she stopped going to his residence, his house. Belahovlic, how many? Okay, a hundred times. Did she indicate how much money she made during this two year period that she was going to see him? Answer, well, she received between 200 and a thousand dollars. Belahovlic each time, answer each time that she went. The day that he forcibly entered himself into her, he paid her a thousand dollars. Also, she had received a rental car from dollar rental car, a blue Dodge neon that the previous housemen had rented for her. Belahovlic, did she ever make a report of sexual battery after what she told you about him inserting his penis inside of her? Answer, what do you mean sexual battery? Belahovlic, did she at the time that he forced his penis inside of her, you said? Answer, oh, at that. Then he's interrupted by Belahovlic, did she make? Then she's interrupted by him. The day that it occurred, no. Belahovlic, did she make, did she call and say? He interrupts Belahovlic here. No, the day it occurred, no, she did not. Belahovlic, that day she took a thousand dollars. Let's say it's only 200 for 100 times. She's, we're talking about a lot of money she's got at a minimum plus a car, is that a yes? Answer, yes. Belahovlic, okay, did you ask her what she did with all that money? Answer, I did ask her, and she didn't wanna tell me. Belahovlic, what'd she say? Answer, she said that, that was too personal. Belahovlic, after you just described all these sex acts to you, okay, did you interview somebody named redacted? Answer, yes I did. Belahovlic, who is redacted? Answer, um, Belahovlic, page 51. Answer, thank you, okay, November 4th. She provided a sworn statement that she had been taken to Epstein's house by the redacted friend from redacted school. Belahovlic, this is the same person that took redacted? Answer, correct, Belahovlic, okay. Answer, she was told as well that she would have to provide the massage and would be paid 300 for the massage. Belahovlic, how old was she at the time? Answer is 17, I believe? Belahovlic, okay, what did she describe happening when she went there the first time? Answer, she was taken to the house and introduced Epstein's assistant, pretty much. Then she, he's interrupted here by Belahovlic, which one, Nadia, or Sarah? Answer, Sarah, Belahovlic, okay. Answer, it was pretty much consistent with all the girls. They would be introduced to the assistant who would then lead her upstairs and prepare the room for the massage in the master bathroom area. She would lay, put a blanket over the massage tables and provide the ointments that Mr. Epstein would like to have used. She rubbed his calves and his back area and was paid 300 dollars for his services. Belahovlic was at a one-time thing with redacted or did she go back? Answer, she stated she had gone back four or five times. Belahovlic, similar acts each time she went back. Answer, correct, Belahovlic, similar amounts of money each time. Answer, it started to escalate. I mean, each time that she went, further things started to happen. It was the same monies though provided. Belahovlic, okay, so the sex acts became more involved? Answer, correct. All right, we're gonna wrap up this episode here and in the next episode, dealing with the topic, we'll pick up where we left off. 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