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The Karen Read Trial: Jury Deliberations Continue (6/30/24)
The jury in the Karen Read trial is deadlocked after several days of deliberations without reaching a unanimous verdict. Read is accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O’Keefe, by hitting him with her SUV. The jury has been instructed by Judge Beverly Cannone to continue their discussions and make every effort to reach a consensus. Despite this, they remain unable to agree on a verdict, leading to increasing tension and uncertainty about the trial’s outcome.
And now, those deliberations will stretch on into a new week.
Let's dive in and get caught up!
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Karen Read deliberations will resume Monday (wcvb.com)
- Duration:
- 22m
- Broadcast on:
- 30 Jun 2024
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And you have to think that these jurors want to get this over and done with before the Fourth of July holiday kicks off, right? And I know that sounds a bit crazy, but let's remember we're dealing with people. These are human beings, and they all have lives, right? These jurors, their lives have been upended to come and sit on this jury. So I have no doubt that these jurors want this to be over and done with as well. But with that said, we're talking about justice for a man who was killed. And we're also talking about the possibility of putting a woman behind bars for the rest of her life. So as uncomfortable as it is, as inconvenient as it is, these jurors have to take as much time as they need to get it right. And hopefully with all this time they're taking to deliberate, that's exactly what's going to occur. But today we have an article from WCVB and The Headline. Karen Reed deliberations will resume Monday. Jerry said they couldn't reach a verdict. This article was authored by David Bienick, Todd Kazakiwich, and Veronica Haines. Jurors will resume their deliberations next week in the trial of Karen Reed, the mass woman accused of hitting her boyfriend, John O'Keefe, with an SUV, and leaving him to die in a snowstorm. After telling a judge on Friday, they were unable to reach a unanimous decision. And I know people out there wonder why it has to be unanimous, but it's a good thing. Imagine it was you who was fighting for your life. unanimous is the way to go. Considering that the state has so much power to take away your life, your freedom, all of it, it has to be an overwhelming amount of proof beyond the reasonable doubt that you're guilty, right? And I think a lot of people forget that. A lot of people want it to be what they want it to be, but the facts are what they are, and the law is what the law is. And for all those people out there that wanna get mad at Alan Jackson, get mad at Mr. Yannetti, look, I understand that their tactics might not be what you would call, oh, I don't know, moral, if you will, but their tactics haven't crossed the line yet because they haven't been smacked. You really think Judge Kanoni doesn't wanna sanction them? Look at how quick Judge Gull, even though I think she was wrong, was to sanction a Rosie and Baldwin. So there's a process here if the lawyers are out of line. The thing is, they haven't been out of line, at least not to the point where the court's gonna step in and sanction them. The jury of six women and six men worked for more than 20 hours this week and is scheduled to resume deliberations on Monday. I can't see it running much later, honestly, like I was saying, 4th of July. You know, there's a lot of considerations. So I would think that these jurors want to get this over and done with, and with over 20 hours of deliberation, in my opinion, I have no idea how they can't come to a verdict yet. And the thing that sold it for me, obviously, was the testimony by those two experts that pretty much finished it off. You know, the grand finale, the two FBI experts? Those two dudes were very qualified, knew what they were talking about, independent of the whole entire investigation, and they came with something that is almost unassailable. And that's science. How are you going to challenge the physics, folks? You can have all the narratives in the world, but if the science don't match up with what you're trying to pitch us, how are we supposed to believe that Karen Reed killed this man? Reed, 44 of Mansfield, is accused of hitting John O'Keefe with her black SUV outside of a home at 34 Fairview Road in Canton on January 29th, 2022, following a night of drinking. Her defense content, O'Keefe, was dragged outside after he was beaten up in the basement and bitten by a dog at Boston, Officer Brian Albert's home in Canton. And look, I have a hard time believing all of that. I'm not saying it's not true, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. Now, keep in mind, it is not up to the defense to convince me of anything. The defense can sit there and not say a word. It is up to the prosecution to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. And if the defense is going to use a third party culprit, then you have to, as the prosecution, be ready to chop that shit up like Chopsui, and they weren't ready to do it. I hate to say it, but the investigation was horrible. And for those people out there that are, you know, Justice for John O'Keefe type folks, like everybody should be, honestly, then you should be mad at Lally. You should be mad at the prosecutors in the Commonwealth for not doing a good job. And look, I don't have any dog in this fight. Like I've said a hundred times when we've been talking about this, I didn't even know about this case really, until all of you folks started emailing me a few weeks ago, you know, before it all cracked off and told me to take a look at it. So I'm certainly not in the camp of, oh, oh, free Karen Reed, right? I'm in the camp of where does the evidence point us? What's the truth and where is Justice for John O'Keefe? Because something happened to that man. And it was up to the prosecutors and the investigators to make sure the person who did it was caught. And according to them and their red solo cups and their brown paper bags, that person was Karen Reed. However, they did not prove to me throughout this trial that Karen Reed is guilty of this beyond a reasonable doubt. And I'm guessing that's the issue right now with the jurors. There's probably a few jurors on the jury that believe the narrative. And then of course there's others that believe the science. Judge Beverly Canoni sent the jury to resume deliberations just after 9 a.m. on Friday. Just before noon, the court clerks and the jury had a question, which was later revealed to be about not being able to reach a verdict. I'm writing to inform you on behalf of the jury that despite our exhaustive review of the evidence and our diligent consideration of all disputed evidence, we have been unable to reach a unanimous verdict. Canoni read from the note from the jury for person. And that really fits, right? Because unless you're baked for one side or the other here, any reasonable person looks at this and says, "There's a ton of reasonable doubt." And that's all there needs to be, reasonable doubt. And if this ends up in a hung jury, something like that, ends up, you know, whatever, I would be very, very, very cautious if I was the Commonwealth to try and retry this case. And that's because I just don't think the evidence is there. If the evidence isn't here this time, how's it gonna be there next time? What are you gonna bring back out Trooper Paul to give us some more of his fantastic scientific breakdown? I mean, come on, might as well have had me up there. I'm lucky I can do, you know, multiplication. Nevermind, physics and shit. You're gonna have me up there talk about a crash scene, bros like a regular old police officer, okay? How about an expert? Don't you guys have a scientist or two that you can rely on, you know, like the FBI guys that showed up and absolutely dropped the hammer on all the bullshit? Simply hasn't been sufficient time yet, prosecutor Adam Lally said. The note doesn't really indicate affirmatively that they can't come to a conclusion. It just says they haven't come to a conclusion through their deliberative process at this time. The defense, however, disagreed. They're communicating to the court that they've exhausted all manner of compromise, all manner of persuasion, and they're at an impasse, defense attorney David Jannetty said. And this would be good for Karen Reid, right? Because it gives the federal investigation time to crack off. And we know that there's a federal investigation in Boston, in Massachusetts, into the State Police Department. And not just for Karen Reid. There's a lot of problems up there. I have some court documents that we're gonna dive into about the state troopers who are arrested up there for all kinds of shit. We're gonna dive into those in the upcoming week, but there's a lot going on up there. And if they can, you know, create a little bit of time here, cause a little bit of a delay, and, you know, have this be a mistrial, hung jury, whatever, then that gives the federal investigation more time to get rolling and on earth more dirt if there's any dirt to be found. Canoni citing the duration of the trial and the length of time spent deliberating told the jury to go back and continue discussions. We all know how hard you've been working. The lunch will be arriving shortly. When it comes, I ask you to clear your heads, have lunch, and begin your deliberations again, or continue your deliberations. So I'm sending you back out, she said. A few hours later, at 4.15 p.m., the jury went home for the weekend. They are scheduled to resume at 9 a.m. on Monday. And of course, we're on Verdict Watch now. And the second the Verdict drops, will have an episode ready to go. And also, now that I've moved into my new place, I have a whole new home studio that I'm setting up, and you could expect some live streams coming your way as well. Maybe not so much for the Karen Reed trial since, you know, we're at this late stage, but moving forward, you could expect some live streams of these trials as are happening, as opposed to just breakdowns and all the rest of it. Previously, I had a home studio where it wasn't really the best place to do that. I was kinda cramped, had some issues as far as logistics. But now, I'm in this new place, and I turned the spare room into a home studio. So I'm able to move a little bit differently, if you will. So we're gonna be adding some streaming and some video content in the near future. If they are still unable to reach a unanimous verdict, the next step for the judge would be to issue what's known as a two-year-old Reedgez instruction. It's really a blast to the jury to say, consider the other side of the person's opposite you and see if you cannot reach a conclusion that's unanimous. Explained former attorney general, Martha Cokley. Well, yeah, that's all fine and well, but you cannot press a juror to change their mind. You wanna talk about a fire for an appeal, fuel for that fire? Oh, that's it. One of these jurors comes down and says they were pressured, forget it. And I think there's already bases for appeal here. If they get a guilty conviction, all kinds of different things that can be appealed. And you better believe, if there is a guilty verdict, that's exactly what's going to happen. I wonder though, if we have another extensive period where Karen Reed is trying to defend herself, if she's gonna have the money for the same kind of legal representation that she has this time around. It's a lot of money, right? It costs a lot of money to defend yourself against something like this. However, if the jury returns again to say that they are still deadlocked, the judge must declare a hung jury and dismiss them. Reed, a former adjunct professor at Bentley College pleaded not guilty to charges of second degree murder, which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison, along with manslaughter while operating under the influence of alcohol and leaving the scene of a personal injury and death. The manslaughter charge carries a penalty of five to 20 years in prison, and the other charge has a maximum penalty of 10 years. And they should have never charged her with anything but manslaughter. They overcharged her, in my opinion. And now they're gonna feel the fury of that, because I don't think any of these charges are going to stick. Her case has been surrounded by a media storm, underpinned by a distrust of police, and fanned by crime bloggers. Well, look, I'm not a big fan of the circus that's surrounding this, but we need to call it what it is. The investigation was poor. And people should be critical of what happened in Kent. All of this is disgusting, this whole entire thing, from the circus, to the investigation, to the fact that Mr. O'Keefe was lying dead in that snow, and nobody knew the better for, what, hours? It's all disgusting. During deliberations Wednesday, jurors submitted one question about the case. On Thursday, they worked through the day with no additional questions. Attorney Allen Jackson said he was feeling great as he led Karen Reed's defense team out of the courthouse and the cross the sealed off street. Following the third straight day with no verdict. While the jury was deliberating, Thursday, Reed left the courthouse for several hours. She hugged and posed for pictures with a boy, who told her he has a similar medical condition as hers, and that he deals with a bully. You're stronger than he is, Reed said. You've been through more, and it'll just prepare you for the other things in life. WCVB's David Beaneck, who has covered the entire trial, said he was standing next to the courtroom door as jurors filed out. One man was smiling. The others looked as if they'd had a long day. Beaneck reported, Okeve's brother Paul told Beaneck his family was gathered at a location in Dedham on Thursday, when about 25 to 30 people showed up and started taking pictures of them. Paul Okeve said they showed up to try to harass his family. We were not intimidated by them at all, he said. What's wrong with people? Leave these people alone. Like for real, you ain't got nothing better to do? Glang out with your fucking family, stop the bullshit. God, Lee, and why do people support this? Like, should I just get out here and be a salacious moron and some kind of carnival barker? I mean, is that what people really want to get out there and act the fool like that? I would think that people would want some nice, concise analysis about what's going on based on fact. But I guess I'm wrong considering how many fucking people follow these morons. - Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest. Life comes at you fast, which is why it's important to find some time to relax a little you time. Enter Chumba Casino with no download required. You can jump on anytime, anywhere for the chance to redeem some serious prizes. 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Trooper Michael Proctor, the lead investigator in the case, acknowledged during his testimony that he was friends with several witnesses, including the brother of the man who hosted the house party where O'Keefe's body was found outside. The defense also criticized Proctor for sharing details of the investigation with friends and family on text exchanges and for text in which he appears to single out Karen Reed as responsible for O'Keefe's death, less than 24 hours after his body was found. And those text messages were just straight up garbage. Like for real, how about a little professionalism stupid? Proctor acknowledged to the jury that he called Reed a series of names, including a whack job in text to family, friends, and fellow troopers. Proctor also repeatedly apologized for language, used in text exchanges, saying there was something that he's not proud of and that he shouldn't have wrote in private or any type of setting. But he insisted the comments had no influence on the investigation. Well, you can say that all you want, but making those comments automatically, in my opinion, tanks you. The defense is trying to convince the jury that O'Keefe was beaten and suggested that Colin Albert had been in a fight. Albert said a hand injury came when he fell in a driveway and then he never saw O'Keefe during the celebration of his cousin's birthday on the night in question. He also confirmed on cross-examination that he has known Proctor since he was a child. A former mass police toxicologist, Nicholas Roberts, testified that Reed's blood alcohol content at 9 a.m. was between 0.78 and 0.83, right around the legal limit for intoxication in Massachusetts. Based on a police report that suggested her last drink was at 12.45 a.m., her peak blood alcohol level would have been between 0.135% and 2.92%. He said, again, reasonable doubt. What if she had more drinks in between those periods? We can't say one way or the other what happened. None of us were there, right? So how do we know? And again, remember, it's not about definitive, it's about reasonable doubt. O'Keefe had been raising his niece and nephew and they told jurors that they heard frequent arguments between him and Reed. Both of the teenagers described an incident in which O'Keefe asked Reed to leave the house and she refused. The trials first few days detailed the futile efforts of first responders to save O'Keefe. They found them face up when they arrived just before dawn on January 29th. He was pronounced dead at the hospital and an autopsy later found he died of hypothermia and blunt force trauma. Several of the first responders said that they heard Reed make statements, including I hit him after O'Keefe was found. Defense attorneys confronted several of those witnesses by asking why those alleged remarks were not included in official reports. And that is a legitimate line of questioning. Why weren't they included? If they were that big of a deal and they were gonna be used as evidence later on down the road, you would think somebody would have that included in a report, right? This is called hearsay. And it comes down to for me anyway, credibility. And unfortunately for the Commonwealth, their investigators have none. Officers also testified about unusual procedures used during the investigation, including the decision to collect bloody snow and red plastic cups and clearing snow from the crime scene. One of the final witnesses was a retired forensic pathologist who testified Monday that some of O'Keefe's injuries were inconsistent with being struck with the Lexus SUV. Dr. Frank Sheridan, who worked previously as chief medical examiner for San Bernardino County in California, testified he would have expected more bruising if O'Keefe had been hit by such a heavy vehicle. He also suggested that scratch marks on his arm could have come from an animal, possibly a dog, and that other injuries were consistent with an altercation. Two witnesses from an independent consulting firm that conducts forensic engineering also suggested some of the evidence doesn't line up with the prosecution's version. And for me, this is the strongest evidence we've seen. You can't deny the science and the physics, Andrew Rensler, from ARCA testified at one point. ARCA was hired by the FBI as part of a federal investigation into state law enforcement's handling of the Reed case. And what does that tell you? That doesn't ring all the alarm bells for you. The independent investigators are saying that none of this is real, none of it's true. I'm sure the appeals court will have a field day with this if she does get convicted. One juror was dismissed Tuesday morning, causing a delay over an hour in the planned start of closing arguments. When the closing arguments finally began, defense attorney Alan Jackson told the jury, "You have been lied to." He argued that evidence, including an inverted video of Reed's SUV in the Canton Police Department's garage, was intentionally manipulated by an investigation that sought to protect other members of the law enforcement community. Ladies and gentlemen, there was a cover-up in this case, plain and simple, Jackson said. Prosecutor Adam Lally offered jurors the timeline, paired with evidence, numbers, documenting their theory of the case. He also opened his presentation by quoting numerous first responders who testified that they heard Reed say, "I hit 'em." Those were the words that came from the defendant's mouth, Lally said. He also pointed to a seething voicemail that Reed had left for O'Keefe moments after data from her car shows she reversed at approximately 24 miles per hour and then drove away. The defendant leaves the voicemail seething in rage as she's screaming, "John, I fucking hate you." The defense said witnesses who claimed to have heard her say she had O'Keefe had changed their story or couldn't have heard the comments due to the chaotic scene. Jackson said investigators focused on Reed because she's a convenient outsider who saved them from having to consider other suspects, including Albert and other law enforcement officers who were at the party. In particular, they highlighted connections between Albert and the state trooper leading the investigation. Michael proctor didn't draw a thin blue line. He erected a tall blue wall. Jackson said, "A wall that you can't scale. "A wall that Karen Reed certainly couldn't get over. "A wall between us and them. "A place you folks are not invited. "We protect our own." Although Reed has said she is willing to testify, she never took the stand in her own defense. Well, she shouldn't have. Considering the piss poor way this investigation went, it speaks for itself. And honestly, I have no idea how anyone could find her guilty at this point. But obviously, there's a juror or two who feels differently. So we'll continue to follow along. And next week, when we get a verdict, obviously, we'll get it added directly to the catalog. But until then, that's gonna do it for this one. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. - It's time for today's Lucky Land horoscope with Victoria Cash. Life's gotten mundane, so shake up the daily routine and be adventurous with the trip to Lucky Land. You know what they say. Your chance to win starts with a spin. So go to luckylandslots.com to play over a hundred social casino style games for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Get lucky today at luckylandslots.com. - No purchase necessary. VGW Group void were prohibited by law. 18 plus terms of condition supply.