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ICYMI: Rex Heuermann And The Profile Of Evil

An organized serial killer is a type of serial killer who exhibits a high degree of planning, control, and premeditation when committing their crimes. Unlike disorganized serial killers, who tend to act impulsively and leave chaotic crime scenes, organized serial killers are methodical and strategic in their approach, making it challenging for law enforcement to apprehend them.Key characteristics of an organized serial killer include:

Methodical planning: Organized serial killers carefully select their victims, often based on specific criteria such as appearance, occupation, or vulnerability. They may stalk potential victims to learn their routines and habits before carrying out the murders.
Controlled crime scenes: These killers go to great lengths to minimize evidence left behind at the crime scenes. They may bring tools, restraints, or other items to help facilitate the killings and dispose of evidence thoroughly.
High intelligence and social skills: Organized serial killers often have above-average intelligence and can be charming and manipulative. This enables them to gain the trust of their victims, making it easier for them to lure them into dangerous situations.
Lack of remorse: Organized serial killers typically show little to no remorse for their actions and may even take pleasure in the suffering of their victims.
Cooling-off periods: After each murder, organized serial killers usually experience a "cooling-off" period where they maintain a relatively normal appearance and behavior. This period allows them to avoid suspicion and plan their next attack without drawing attention to themselves.
Often follow media coverage: Organized serial killers may closely follow news reports and police investigations related to their crimes, sometimes even involving themselves in the investigation to elude capture.
Long-lasting crime sprees: Due to their calculated and organized nature, these killers may continue their crime sprees for extended periods before being caught or stopped.

In this episode we take a trip back to 2011 and hear from Scott Bonn and several other experts who build a chlling profile of the LISK that proved to be incredibly accurate in the wake of the arrest of Rex Heuermann.

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Duration:: 18m
Broadcast on:: 30 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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So, let's just get right to it and let's see what criminologist Scott Bond had to say. Headline, Bright, Careful and Sadistic. Profiling Long Island's mystery serial killer, and remember this was in 2011. Basically, when all of this was first happening, that's when Scott Bond gave his profile. And look how accurate it turned out to be. This article was authored by Manny Fernandez and Al Baker. It was originally published on April 21st of 2011. He is most likely a white male in his mid-20s to mid-40s. He is married or has a girlfriend. He is well-educated and well-spoken. He is financially secure, has a job, and owns an expensive car or a truck. He may have sought treatment at a hospital for poison ivy infection. As part of his job or interest, he has access to, or a stockpile of burlap sacks. Well, pretty damn chilling, right? Mid-20s to mid-40s, check. He is married or has a girlfriend. Check, well-educated and well-spoken. Check again. Financially secure. Well, we know he has some debt, but he has a good job. Has a job, has an expensive car or a truck. Check. And as far as poison ivy, well, who knows. But that's something that hunters get all the time. And we know that he was a prolific duck hunter. And that would also give him access to those burlap sacks. And he lives or used to live on or near Ocean Parkway, on the south shore of Long Island, where the police have found as many as 10 sets of human remains. And he was on point with that as well. Living over there in Massapeka Park, not far away from where this happened. Someone who really knew the area was able to navigate the neighborhoods, knew when there was activity as far as police. But it always amazes me. When we read these stories or learn about these serial killers, and they think it's a good idea to do this near their home. I'll never understand it. And I guess, you know, the psychology behind it makes sense. It's where they know they're comfortable there, all of that. But man, if I was going to do some serial killing, I'd be putting a lot more thought into it. And I'd be traveling thousands of miles away to do my nonsense. Doing that shit by your house doesn't seem like a good idea to me. In interviews with serial killer experts and criminologists, including a former FBI profile, a portrait emerges of the man who investigators on Long Island believe is responsible for several of the bodies they have discovered in the brush of Ocean Parkway since December. For the moment, he is known in law enforcement jargon only as Unsub or Unknown Subject. No arrests have been made and no suspects have been identified by the Suffolk County Police Department, which is leading the investigation. Well, we all know now with hindsight, and with what has transpired over the last week or so, that Rex Huerman is the man that they say is responsible. And look how many of the boxes he takes from this profile. Profiling serial murders is far from a precise science. There are nearly 3 million people on Long Island, and the man who killed at least four prostitutes, who advertised for clients on Craigslist, is perhaps but one. And the experts interviewed are a sketching out a possible suspect based only on details of the case that have been publicly revealed, like the burlap sacks that the four women's bodies were found in and the series of taunting phone calls that the killer is believed to have made to one victim's relatives. And I think a lot of people get caught up on the burlap sacks. Sure, that's convenient for him when he's in Massapeka, when he has access to his dungeon. Yeah, he has the burlap sacks, but without those burlap sacks, say he was active elsewhere, he's going to wrap it in something else, cloth, plastic, whatever, and then get rid of those body parts. So I think getting caught up on the burlap sacks is exactly what he would want you to do, right? This guy is trying to throw people off. And Rex Jourman, obviously a bit intelligent here, he understands how MO works, he understands how these investigations work, and he was watching the case unfold in real time. So why would we think that he wouldn't do something a little different to throw people off the scent as far as other murders? And while the burlap sacks are certainly significant, there's no doubt about that. I don't think that we can X out other murders because there was no burlap sack found. "This is someone who can walk into a room and seem like your average Joe," said Scott Bond, an assistant professor of sociology at Drew University in Madison, New Jersey, and a serial killer researcher. He has to be persuasive enough and rational enough that he is able to convince these women to meet him on these terms. He has demonstrated social skills, he may even be charming. Well, he was charming enough to get them to meet him on his terms, he was charming enough to get them to leave their pimps and their friends and meet up with them. Ohgrish, yes, but obviously charming enough to at least get these women to think or feel that they'd be safe with them. One of the most important clues is where the 10 sets of remains were located. A 10-mile stretch of remote, poison ivy-covered dunes, just off Ocean Parkway, on Jones Beach Island. In selecting one large dumping ground, the killer has distinguished himself from Long Island's last two convicted serial killers, Joel Rifkin and Robert Shulman, both of whom scattered the bodies of their victims throughout the region and the state. The killer's attraction to a single, out-of-the-way area suggests to several experts that he has intimate knowledge of Jones Beach Island, in general, and Ocean Parkway in particular, and how spot on is that? Considering he lived a few blocks away, grew up here his whole life, duck hunted here, I would say that he has an intimate knowledge of the whole area. He did not stumble upon that location, said the former profiler Jim Clementi, who retired from the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 2009, as a senior supervisory special agent in the Agencies Behavioral Analysis Unit in Quantico, Virginia. He's familiar with the area. Only four out of the ten sets of remains have been identified. Those four victims, who were found in December, were all in their 20s and all had worked as prostitutes. Each one was reported missing in the summertime, on July 9, 2007, July 12, 2009, June 6, 2010, and September 2, 2010. Investigators have said they believe that the four women were killed shortly after they were reported missing. Well, we don't know how long it took for them to meet their final end, but according to what we're learning, this six-on-of-a-bitch like to spend time with these victims. And that opens up a whole-ass host of disturbing possibilities. Summertime disappearances suggest several characteristics. There may be a seasonal nature to his connection to the area or to his fantasy and ritual, Mr. Clementi said. It may be the time his wife or kids or parents are away for the summer. There are many possibilities. And it's chilling now to know what we know about this scumbag and to see how spot-on some of these analysts were. The burlap sacks provide another clue. He could be using them either because they are part of his killing ritual or because they are the easiest cover he can find. Burlap, however, is no longer common and might be easier to trace than a plastic bag. To me, it takes away from his forensic sophistication and adds to the possibility that he is more interested in this ritual aspect, Mr. Clementi said. Or the burlap provided him the best cover of these corpses when he was moving them to their final resting place. Because when he got to the destination where he was going to leave the bodies, remember for that little bit of time when he was removing the body from the vehicle to put it in the burial ground. Well, there's a chance that a cop rolls up or somebody rolls up. And if he hasn't just wrapped in plastic and people can see through it, well, they know right away what's going on. If he has a wrapped in burlap, at the very least, he has a little bit of a cover story maybe, right? So it affords him a little more protection, but just dumping these bodies was a big risk for him. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases? 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So that's certainly a possibility, and we know that he was looking at some weird-ass, you know, child-related disgustingness on his computer, so I don't think it would be that out of character to hear that he heard a child. The Ocean Parkway serial killer is the third known to have preyed on prostitutes on Long Island in 22 years. Mr. Rifkin, a 34-year-old unemployed gardener from East Meadow, confessed to killing 17 women between 1989 and 1993 after he was arrested. Mr. Schulman died of natural causes in 2006 while serving life without parole. Mr. Rifkin, now 52, is an inmate at the Clinton State Prison in Danmorea, New York near the Canadian border. Have fun with those winters, buddy. He is serving a 203-year sentence and is officially eligible for parole on February 26, 21, 97. Besides singling out prostitutes, Mr. Rifkin, Mr. Schulman, and the current killer have traits in common. All three are classified by serial killer experts as organized killers. Serial killers are often broadly defined, either organized or disorganized. The model of the disorganized killer is Jack the Ripper, the name given to the unidentified serial killer of prostitutes in London in the 1880s. A disorganized killer will be much more impulsive and haphazard, said James Allen Fox, a criminology professor at Northeastern University, who has studied serial killers for 30 years. The disorganized killer is easy to catch. A lot of them don't get enough victims to be defined as a serial killer. It takes a certain degree of care and carefulness to assemble dozens. Organized killers use such care. They often lead seemingly stable lives and are methodical, intelligent and educated. Mr. Rifkin attended the state University of New York at Farmingdale, and Mr. Schulman had been a student at Hofstra University. And like the Ocean Parkway Killer, they often have a knowledge of police work and forensic techniques. And we know now that Huermann was following along with this investigation the whole entire time, the whole way, and getting off on it. Some investigators have said the killer might be an active or former law enforcement officer because his phone calls to the relative did not last long enough to pinpoint his location and were made from Times Square and other crowded sites. Which would make it more difficult for the authorities to pick him out using surveillance cameras. Look, anybody knows that. And I always thought that the ties that would bind him to being a police officer or a retired police officer were very weak. Long Island's three serial killers might also share similar motives. Fred Klein, the former Nassau County assistant district attorney, who prosecuted Mr. Rifkin, said that Mr. Rifkin was driven to kill not out of anger or revenge, but out of pleasure. Before he began killing prostitutes, Mr. Rifkin had been obsessed with Alfred Hitchcock's 1972 film, Frenzy, about a serial killer in London, and he told officials he used a masturbate to the scenes in which women were strangled. "Hell of a guy that Rifkin, huh?" "It was psychosexual sadism," said Mr. Klein, now an assistant professor at Hofstra Law School. "Most murders? There's an additional motive to it. You want to eliminate witnesses, or there's a fight, or you want to eliminate the person for some reason, such as a husband kills a wife or vice versa." Rifkin was killing people for the pure purpose of killing them. He would actually get sexual pleasure out of the murder. Serial killer experts say they believe that the current killer is fueled by similar impulses as shown by his desire to call the teenage sister of one of his victims using the victim's cell phone and taunter. "That gives me an idea that he is a sadist," said Mr. Clemente, the former profiler. "That would be reflected in his relationship and his jobs. He is the one who laughs when a cat gets run over or a kid falls off his bike. He likes the suffering of others, and he really likes it when he can cause it or witness it." All spot on so far, right? That's what we have learned so far about this dude, according to the authorities, according to his own web searches, a sick sadist who gets off on watching other people suffer. Mr. Rifkin has offered his own opinions lately about who he thinks the killer is in prison interviews with reporters. He told Newsday last week that he believes the killer could be a local resident who works in a job which no one would be suspicious if he carried burlap bags. My guess, Mr. Rifkin told the newspaper is it would be someone like a landscaper, contractor, or a fisherman. Alright, so I thought it would be interesting to go back and check that profile that was built of this man all the way back in 2011. 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