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Murder In Moscow: Kaylee Goncalves Family Bash The New Howard Blum Book (6/27/24)
In November 2022, four University of Idaho students—Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen, and Kaylee Goncalves—were found brutally murdered in an off-campus house in Moscow, Idaho. The suspect, Bryan Kohberger, was arrested in late December 2022.
Key evidence in the case includes DNA found on a knife sheath left at the crime scene, which matched DNA from Kohberger's family's trash in Pennsylvania. Surveillance footage traced a white Hyundai Elantra, owned by Kohberger, near the crime scene around the time of the murders. Additionally, cell phone records showed Kohberger's phone was near the victims' residence on multiple occasions prior to the murders, though it was turned off during the time the murders occurred.
Kohberger, a criminology Ph.D. student at Washington State University, exhibited an interest in criminal psychology and crime scene analysis. He has pleaded not guilty and his defense suggests he was out driving at the time of the murders.
Now, after the relase of a book detailing the murders by author Howard Blum, the Gocalves family is bashing that book and saying it's a work of fiction.
In our second article, we get an update on what we might expect today at Bryan Kohberger's hearing.
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Bryan Kohberger Book Slammed By Victim's Family - Newsweek
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- 27 Jun 2024
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What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. Over the past few days we've been talking about the new book coming out or the new book that was just released I should say, by Howard Bloom. That has to do with the murders in Moscow. Well, the family of Kaylie Gonsalbus has come out and absolutely bashed this book saying that it's a work of fiction and nothing more than Mr. Bloom's speculation. And I think there's a lot of truth to that. I think that Mr. Bloom has done his own investigation, talked to his own sources, and this is what he's come up with. And as far as it being true or not, I think we're gonna have to wait for all of the details to be unfurled. But if I was the family of Kaylie Gonsalbus or one of these other kids who were killed, I'd be pretty upset probably as well if a book was written about my daughter and it was based purely on speculation or on sources that can't really, you know, put their name to the information that they're giving out because of the gag order and other concerns. So according to the Gonsalbus family, what Mr. Bloom has to say is a bunch of BS. So today we're gonna discuss that a little bit and we're gonna get an update on what to expect at Brian Coburger's hearing later on today. So now that the table is set, let's eat. The first article we have is from Newsweek and the headline, "Brian Coburger Book Slam by Victims Family." This article was authored by Kalita Rockman. The family of one of the four University of Idaho students who were fatally stabbed has slammed the new book about the murders as fiction. Kaylie Gonsalbus 21, Madison Mogan 21, Zanna Carnotl 20, and Ethan Chapin also 20 were found stabbed to death in a rental home near the college campus in Moscow on November 13th, 2022. Brian Coburger 29 is charged with the murders. Prosecutors have not released a motive for the killings and just keep in mind that just because we don't have a motive that's been listed by the prosecution doesn't mean they don't have something that they're working on or they don't have a suspicion that they're working off of because there's no way that we're privy to all of the information that they've compiled, all of the evidence that they've collected, and certainly we're not privy to the strategy that they're using to go about trying to get this conviction. And of course, our site is blurred because of the scope of the gag order. And that of course leads to an utter lack of transparency. But a new book by author and journalist Howard Bloom called "When the Night Comes Falling, a Requiem for the Idaho student murders, Alleges Mogan was the killer soul target on the night of the killings." And look, I agree with that 100%. I really believe that Madison Mogan was the target, but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I have, you know, evidence to back that up besides what we all have. Now according to Mr. Bloom, he says he has some sources that are well placed, blah, blah, and really it comes down to credibility. Do you believe what he has to say or don't you? Me personally, I think that there's some truth in some of the things he's saying. And then in some of the other things he has to say, well, I don't really feel like they fit, right? And again, we're not going to know until this trial kicks off what's true and what's not true. Gonsalves' family has criticized Bloom's book, calling it a version of events made up by him, relying on sources that have no responsibility or duty to speak the truth. And considering the gag order that's been dropped over this case, I would think that anybody speaking out of school is really putting their job on the line, right? Their credibility on the line. You get caught for something like this and you better believe the judge is going to smack your ass. And whatever that ends up being sanctioned or whatever is not going to look good on your resume. And if you're an agent that's working the case and you're out here speaking out of school to other people, you could easily throw the whole entire case into turmoil and end up giving Brian Kohlberger a lifeline here for him to try and save himself from drowning in these charges. And of course, the Gonsalves' family wants nothing like that to occur. They want this dude to go to trial, they want him to face a jury of his peers, and if all of the evidence is there, which they think it is, they want him to be convicted. And they don't want some journalist and his nonsensical book getting in the way. Kohlberger was arrested at his parents' home in Pennsylvania about six weeks after the killings. Investigators said they had linked Kohlberger, then a graduate student to a nearby Washington State University, to the crime, using DNA evidence, cell phone data, and the surveillance video. He's charged with four counts of murder and one count of burglary. A judge entered not guilty pleas on Kohlberger's behalf last year, but a trial date has yet to be said. A hearing is scheduled for Thursday to discuss the schedule for the case, including dates for the trial. Kohlberger faces a death penalty if he's convicted. If he were aimless, driven only by furious emotions, he would burst forward into either of the second floor bedrooms, but he has a plan. He knows where he's going, he's a hunter stalking his prey, bloom rights in the book, which was published on Tuesday. And as far as that goes, I think he's spot on. I think that Madison was the target, we're not going to go into that once again, but it all adds up. So that portion of this story, that portion of his book, I certainly think has some legs. Another speculation. Since Kaylee no longer lives full time in the house, his target has always been since the madness first crept into his thoughts, Petite Matty. Bloom, who has reported on the killings for Ermel, told ABC News that he came to that conclusion because authorities believe the suspect entered the house through a sliding door on the second floor of the house. One passed bedrooms on that floor and up one flight to where Morgan's bedroom was. Morgan and Gon saw this were found stabbed to death in Morgan's bedroom. If he was just on a killing spree, it would have been natural, instinctive to go to one of those other doors. Bloom told ABC News, "Instead, he goes up this narrow staircase and he turns directly into Matty's room and I think Matty was his target." And looking at all of the evidence that we have, I think that's the most logical destination to arrive at. Gon solved his family however, added an statement to KHQTV, "Mr. Bloom's book, in our opinion, is fiction. I have never spoken with Mr. Bloom about the contents of his book. As a seasoned writer, Mr. Bloom has learned to write in a way that as long as he claims his information came from a source, he's protected. But all this book does is tell a story by Mr. Bloom, a version made up by him, relying on sources that have no responsibility or duty to speak the truth. They said it was just another book and another dollar to be made about the deaths of four young students. Bloom has been contacted for comment via his publisher. Gon solved his family has been contacted via social media, and unfortunately only time's going to tell us if Mr. Bloom was right or if he was just fishing. And if he was just fishing, well, I hope that the readers who were duped by him never pick up any of his work ever again. But we're not at that point yet, I don't know what's real in that book, what's not real. According to the Gon solved his family, they believe it's all fiction, so we'll have to take a wait and see approach and see what's what. Alright, moving on to our next article, and this article is also from Newsweek, headline, Brian Coburger trial update, what to expect during Thursday's hearing. This article was authored by Matthew Impelli. Quadruple murder suspect Brian Coburger will appear Thursday in court where a number of topics are expected to be addressed. A scheduled hearing is set for June 27th, 2024 at 10am Pacific Standard Time. This hearing will be open to the public and will be live streamed on the court's YouTube channel. A court document filed in Laitau County Idaho said, so like usual, we'll keep an eye on what's going on during the proceedings, and then when we have some information, we'll get it added to the catalog. The document goes on to say that the prosecution and defense should be prepared to address scheduling dates, oral argument dates, pretrial motions, and emotions challenging the death penalty, expert disclosure, deadlines, deadlines for pretrial materials, jury questionnaires, witness lists, exhibit lists, and the trial setting. Coburger 29 has been charged with four accounts of first degree murder and one count of felony burglary in the connection with the fatal stabbings of Kayleigh Gonzabas, Madison Mogan, Zannick Hernodel, and Diefen Chapin. Coburger has maintained his innocence and his legal team is sought to have the trial moved out of Laitau County. Oh yeah, that's going to work out well. Because everybody else who's had a high profile trial has done so well looking at that venue change. So why should Brian Coburger be any different? Bro should have to face the music in Laitau County. Last month, two hearings for Coburger were suddenly postponed to allow both sides additional time to prepare. The hearings, which eventually took place on May 30th, pertain to several motions filed by Coburger's attorneys, who have accused aid prosecutors of withholding evidence that they argue should be made available to the defense team. Prosecutors have responded to the motions, but the content of the filing is sealed. And that shouldn't be surprising to anybody considering the secrecy that we've seen throughout this whole thing. So I don't want to hear anything later on down the road by Coburger's team about how he didn't get a fair shake, how there was too much publicity. Nobody knows shit. Okay. All we know is what's going on with the court filings besides that there have been very few leaks at least leaks that we can trace and say, Oh, you know what, this is legit. Now if you want to believe what Howard Bloom has to say, that's a different story. Maybe he has some sources in the FBI or whatever. Cool. But we can't confirm that earlier this year, there was a dispute between Coburger's lead attorney and Taylor, Laetaw County prosecutor Bill Thompson and judge John judge over a survey of potential jurors from the defense. Taylor previously argued that the survey results of the potential jurors showed that the Jerry pool in Laetaw County was biased and she wants the trial moved out of the county. If defense council believes asking the survey questions, which arguably contain prejudicial information or misinformation about the defendant is more beneficial than harmful as defendant's expert testified. This court does not at this junction have sufficient information or evidence to second guess that strategic decision by trial council. Judge said in the hearing in April, he allowed the jury survey questions to remain. And that just shows you their desperation, in my opinion. If their expert says, look, this is worth it compared to not doing it, then it seems to me that even though there's a big risk here, not doing the survey is an even bigger risk. But when you have the judge saying that it's almost more harmful for Coburger than it is helpful, then as the prosecution, you should probably just sit back and say to yourself, you know what, let's let them ride with this one. And that's basically what's going on here. Now we have these hearings that are going to crack off today at 10 a.m. Pacific standard time. So we'll have a little bit more to go on. But as of now, that's where everything stands. So we're going to wrap up right here. And once we have some more information about what went on at those hearings, we'll get it added to the catalog. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.