Beyond The Horizon
ICYMI: Bryan Kohberger's Past Life As A Fishmonger
We have learned a lot about Bryan Kohberger since his arrest and we continue to learn more from friends and associates who have spent time with him over the years.
In this episode, we hear about a job Bryan Kohberger had as youth and how things didn't seem to work out for him there either in what, seemingly, would become a pattern for Bryan Kohberger throughout the years.
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Idaho murders: Bryan Kohberger’s former fish cleaning boss says suspect couldn't learn filleting | Fox News
- Duration:
- 10m
- Broadcast on:
- 22 Jun 2024
- Audio Format:
- mp3
- Bye. - Up everyone and welcome back to the program. We've learned a whole lot about Brian Kohlberger ever since his arrest. And we have heard a lot of things that certainly are concerning. From the fact that he had all kinds of crazy posts on the internet, talking about how he doesn't have any feelings, how he's just a meat bag, you know, all of that crazy stuff. And then we hear from some of the girls that he associated with. And that's all bad too. Well, now we're hearing a story about Brian Kohlberger as a youth and a job that he had, working at a company called the Big Brown Fish. And Brian Kohlberger's job there as a youth was to, you know, clean the place up, help the people who were paying to go fishing or whatever with their gear. And then eventually help them start flaying the fish. Well, according to Brian Kohlberger's former boss, he was never any good at it and he didn't pick up on it at all. So my guess is that his lawyer is going to try and use this and say, look, he couldn't even flay a fish. And now you want this jury to believe that he killed four human beings? I know that might sound crazy, but these lawyers, they'll do anything. Just take a look at Alec murder and what happened in that trial. And the fact that those bozos thought it would be a good idea to put them on the stand. So, you know, these lawyers, especially when their clients don't give them much to work with, like, you know, you have a guilty client, they got to come up with some creative ways to try and sow some seeds of doubt in the jurors' minds. So my guess is Ann Taylor will take a look at this and see if she can harness it into some kind of defense mechanism for Brian Kohlberger. So let's dive into this article from Fox News. And let's see what Michael Ruiz has for us. Idaho murders Brian Kohlberger's former fish cleaning boss says suspect couldn't learn flaying. The Pennsylvania business owner who briefly employed Idaho murder suspect Brian Kohlberger more than a decade ago says the teen who would go on to be accused in a quadruple stabbing while studying for a PhD didn't last long. Charles Conklin, who founded the big brown fish in Paylakes in Effort, Pennsylvania, 35 years ago, said Kohlberger's short stint ended well before he had any significant training with a flaying knife. So obviously he didn't get his knife skills working down here as a fishmonger. Old boy couldn't cut it, wasn't good at the job and let's remember he was a youth. How many of you were bad at your job when you were 16? I know that I had a job when I was 16 and my friend showed up to this job and well, your dumb ass boy over here decided it's a good idea to quit because his boys are all going to a job. So I hopped over the counter and I went to the party with my friends. So I'm certainly not immune to being a moron when I was young. In fact, just about everything I did was painted with moronity. So I certainly understand the young kid not being good at his job. For us to be painted in some kind of light along with this terrible tragedy is very disturbing. He told Fox News Digital on Thursday. The truth of the matter is he's here a very short time, 12 years ago, a young kid. We did our best to mentor him and mutually decided the job wasn't for him. So he must have been pretty odd, right? We know that from all of the people we've heard from and unfortunately being odd really doesn't translate into the workplace. If you're working with the public and you're working with people who are fishing and one of your job duties is to work with the public to cut their fish or make sure that their gear isn't tangled up, whatever it is. And you're not, let's say, a personable person like Brian Coburger wasn't. Well, that's gonna be a very difficult job for you. Never mind the filetting part, but just dealing with the other human beings and dealing with all of the different situations that are going to arise from those interactions. Conklin said he started his fish hatchery 50 years ago when he was just 10 years old. The fish in pay opened 35 years ago. He distanced himself from Coburger and the allegations against him and noted that hundreds of young people have taken their first jobs at his business and gone on to greater things. Are there people actually out there that are talking trash about this dude's business or something because Brian Coburger worked there? Breaking news, I highly doubt Brian Coburger learned how to wield a knife, working as a fishmonger at the local lake. Dudes had years and years and years to learn how to use a knife. And obviously, he learned how to use it well enough to kill four people or so the government tells us, we've had hundreds of kids come through here and mentored them and they've gone on to do wonderful things, he said, pharmacists and teachers and have their own electrical companies and almost everything you can imagine. We're so proud of all of those kids. In Coburger's short stint, he had just a few hours training with a flaying knife, a thinner and more flexible tool, then the large fixed blade knife, police say, was used in the murders and lasted less than three weeks on the job altogether, Conklin said. I think it's safe to say that Brian Coburger certainly didn't learn anything at this job, nevermind knife skills. If you only work someplace for three weeks and then you get let go, my guess is, you didn't learn anything and you certainly didn't learn any knife skills. He never got proficient at it, he added, which isn't abnormal for your young kid, probably his first job. He was 15 or 16 years old. When kids come in here, their jobs are to keep the place clean, pick up paper all day long, help customers catch fish, fix poles and then we try to train them, how to flay fish, he said and if they get good at it, they can flay customers fish. Coburger wasn't around long enough to get to that point. So he never even got to the point where he would even learn any kind of skills, if you will, as far as flaying fish or being proficient with a filet knife and the filet knife is a lot different than the weapon that the government says was used in these murders. Remember, they say it was a K bar knife, a fixed blade knife, much bigger, sturdier and obviously meant for killing. Sweet. After that 20th day he worked here, his direct supervisor sat and talked with him and mutually they decided this job wasn't for him. He said, that's all there was to it. He really didn't learn how to use any utensils here and what this guy's doing, the owner of this place, this camp, he's trying to tell people, look, he didn't learn how to use this knife here and I'm sure a lot of people have had those questions. They found out that he was working, flaying fish or whatever. And of course people make the jump and they make the connection right away. Well, if he was flaying fish, then he must have been proficient with a knife. And when these murders first happen, remember, there was a lot of people out there talking about how it must have been a prolific hunter or somebody that was into skinning animals and doing taxidermy. So there was a whole bunch of different theories going around, but I think it's safe to say that Brian Coburger learned how to wield a knife later on down the road and it had nothing to do with this time spent at this camp or fishing site or whatever. Coburger, a Pennsylvania native, had trouble with drugs in his late teens, but got himself together and obtained a master's degree in criminal justice from the Salas University. And you know what's so crazy? Brian Coburger's story had all the hallmarks of a great comeback story. Somebody who was addicted to drugs as a kid, a youth, gets clean, goes and gets his master's degree, and then he's working towards a PhD. If the story would have stopped there, then we would have been looking at what just about all of us love, a great comeback story. But instead, it's something completely different. Brian Coburger, obviously, was battling demons, had a lot of issues going on in his brain. And all of those fantasies that he obviously was harboring, if he's the man the government tells us he is, well, all of those fantasies came to fruition on that fateful morning of November 13th. This past fall semester was his first at Washington State University, where he was seeking a PhD in criminology. The school is just seven miles away from the University of Idaho, which all four stabbing victims attended, Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonsalves, Zanna Cernodel, and Ethan Chapin. Three of the victims were housemates, and Chapin, Cernodel's boyfriend, lived across the street and was staying the night. Police say they were killed around 4 a.m. on November 13th with a large knife. Investigators zeroed in on Coburger's car, the suspect vehicle, and say his phone data shows he allegedly stalked the crime scene a dozen times before the slayings, and returned again hours later. According to court documents, detectives found DNA on a K-Bar knife sheath left at the scene next to Mogan's body. That sample matched familial DNA taken from the trash can outside his parents' house in the Pocono Mountains, and court records unsealed this week, show the FBI took additional DNA swabs from Coburger directly after his arrest on December 30th. And those bugle swabs are going to give the government a complete workup of Brian Coburger's DNA. So whatever they found at the scene, if they found anything else at the scene, they're really going to be able to tie at the Brian Coburger and stick it to them good. So my guess is, and I've said this from the beginning, the investigators have a lot more than they're sharing with us, especially when it comes to DNA evidence. So we'll see where it all goes, but it's interesting to get a look at Brian Coburger's past life, who he was, and how we got to the point where we find ourselves today. And when these stories come out from people in his past, I always like to add them to the catalog, so we continue to get that context. All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one. All of the information that goes with the episode can be found in the description box.