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Our approach to training is rooted in current evidence-based research that encourages consistency and sustainability for an overall well-balanced life. We are redefining modern fitness by focusing on the science behind long-term health and wellness rather than quickly fix it and then quickly cut it off. - We offer food plot and strength. Food plot and model six-day tweak on issues that we need. - No matter where you're out on your journey, you can even help you find your fit. You can follow us on YouTube at All Strength Nashville. And while you're there, be in us to book your first class. So if you're ready, be yourself and redefine your fit at All Strength Nashville. - Welcome back, you guys. We are here at the Nashville Fit Magazine Podcast at the Live at the Music City Fit Expo. That's a lot of fit, a lot of words, in the Nashville Fit Magazine Music City Fit Expo. - Yeah. - And we have more words. I am here. - We have more words. I hope those are my guests. We have more words for you guys today. - We have more words. So the next words are my name is Dab, and I am here with my friend. - I am the Giro Web. - I always let you say the Giro Web. 'Cause it tells me to find it. - Yes, you know, because it's individualized. But I just found out me and Alicia are cousins. - We are, uh-huh. - Yeah, she... - Really? - Don't talk dirty to me. So I know, I know, I'm messing with you. I'm messing with you. It's the same. I'm sorry. I don't want to get me too. She was like, what? No, that's not what. Okay, I know. (laughing) - It's okay. - So, so sad that she's the, she's Dominican. - Okay. - You know, I'm Dominican. So we're probably somewhere. - Yeah. - You've been home? - He said, yeah. - Have you been home recently? Not since you were a kid? - Yeah, they come. - We have to go back. I'll show you around. - Yeah, please do. - Yes. - What's the last time you were there? - I was there in 2018-19. - Okay. - One of those, yeah. - Nice. So right before, yeah, like a year before, yeah. - Right? - Oh, cool. - Is it? - Yeah. - It's kind of very like, you don't hear about people going on vacation there a lot. - You don't? - No. - People go there a lot, especially men. - Okay. - Yeah. - Okay. - Men go to the men again. It's the whole thing called the passport bros. - I can guess. - Oh. - Yeah. - Let us see. - Yeah. - That's how I went. - Oh. - Back way into what we're about to do. - Yeah. - Back way. We're jumping too. (laughs) - Sheesh, man. You got us trying to give me. Yeah. This is. - Hey, Trent, can we edit this yet? Can we edit this? I need to start over. Three, two, one. We're gonna start over real quick. (laughs) - Yeah, this is what the people want. (laughs) - We're here with Alicia with the Astacina brand. - Yes. - Astacina designs. - Astacina designs, which means? - Astacina brand. - It means Astacina. It means female Astacina. - It means female Astacina and Spanish. - Astacina. - Yes. Which is why Sav loves it. So you'll probably see that Sav and that for the rest of our content. - Yup. - Tell us about what your brand is and who is for, what it does, all the things. - Yeah. So Astacina designs the Spanish. It is Astacina. It is made for the bolds that ask female athlete, just the all-around hard-hitting feminine woman. We make denim. We specialize in denim for the athletic figure. So all of the sizes are designed to fit the larger cloth, larger booty, but then fit at the waist, doesn't gap at the waist. It's made from a premium stretch denim, all made in Los Angeles. This was something that I wanted when I was growing up as an athlete and I could never find jeans that fit. So it was always my goal to make jeans that fit the strong woman. - And then what I love about that is it encourages thick thighs and booties. Like more of that, ladies. - More booties? - Wrong as the news, baby. - That what you're saying? More big booties? - Oh, yeah. - Okay. I was just curious, Ab. - It's way more impressive, way more impressive to me and just like thick thighs and booties. That means you do some more. - They said thick thighs, they use knives. That's a saying. I didn't make it up. You can Google it. So I'm curious to know why you leaned in with that, especially on women, was that it could be an insecurity? Because we were talking offline and you were saying, like you've been built pretty similar, different proportions since you were a five years old. Like former gymnast, was that like a hey, I can't find anything and I like the way my clothes fit. So I know I'm not the only one type of situation. Yeah. - Exactly. Yeah. So I was a gymnast. I started gymnastics when I was three and ever since then you just grow muffles at like a really fast rate, apparently when you're a child. And I remember distinctly always trying to go into the dressing room and find jeans that fit. They were like, oh, you're just in between sizes. Like that's why nothing fits. But it was very tough for like being a 13 year old girl. And then you want to go to Abercrombie because like everyone's wearing it and it doesn't fit you. - Right. - So it did come partially from insecurities of never finding jeans that fit because of my athletic figure back in like 2010 through like 2012 era when like Victoria Secret, like Tumblr was coming apart, like coming arising and like gym girls weren't so heavily encouraged. It was hard to find brands that represented kind of who I was and like my identity as a kid. So that's really where it came about was to have a brand that has denim that fit the athletic body 'cause I did ask friends at that age or just other athletes and went, do you also have this problem? And then it was a huge conversation. - What age were you like asking that question? Because like what I'm wondering is, did you start like when you were five? Like doing gymnastics and you couldn't fit and close and like maybe you were like eight and then 10 and you were just maybe like, were you ever like, like something's wrong with me because I don't fit into the Abercrombie jeans or whatever. Like, and then when did the moment happen or when did you get to a point where you realized like, wait, it's not, I'm not the problem. Abercrombie is the problem. You know, we're not making, you know, inclusive clothing. You know, when did you kind of start asking that question? - So it did like middle school era when all the kids want to be cool. That was definitely when I started to be more insecure. I think, oh my God, my body's a problem. I'm so muscular. I look so bulky. I'm just so manly like I don't feel like I could wear like the dresses that the girls are wearing. I can't wear the shorts that the girls are wearing 'cause I don't fit into them. And then more towards when I was growing up like 15 or even like later in my teenage years, I was like, you know what? Like I can't, I'm not gonna get a thigh gap anytime soon or if ever genetically I don't think I can. - I don't think anyone should. - So around that time I was started researching the denim and I was like, why doesn't it fit me? Is it the stretches, is it the fabric? Is it the sizing scale that they use? And then I looked into the fashion industry and found what typical sizing scales they use and I was like, okay, this is why. It's never going to fit me because their sizing literally is not made for my proportions which are a lot more drastic than the typical sizing scale. - Where did you find that scale? Like where is, is that just like? - Yeah, so literally it was just researching what the companies currently use and going into their like, you know, when you like buy online and it says what size are you, it brings up the chart. And it shows like what the question is. - Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. - Yeah, they're a lot smaller than what it's like. - I've always struggled with that. - Yeah. - Like those are so off. - They're all the way, they can't fit all people and they're just, you know, like it's a standard, you know? - I think that's on purpose. I don't think it's supposed to fit all people. - True, right? - All brands are meant for all the types. - Yeah, okay, good, sure. - I too cannot wear, this is my camera, Trent. I too cannot wear Abercrombie or Gap. - I don't think I can go in there. - Or Express. - Strong. - Express, like none of that stuff fits me because I am an athlete, right? And so I don't think it's supposed to fit me either. And so I love the fact that you actually decided to do something about it. Like you're like, yo, if they're not gonna do it, then I'll start my own, right? - I don't know if you're old enough to remember like Apple Bottom, James. Like, which one, right? You remember that? Boost with the first one? - Yeah, but that was kind of the answer in response to like body types, right? Because like, even if you look at the fashion industry, model wise, like models were always really skinny, straight up and down. That was the thing that women were going toward. The thigh gap, right? - Yeah. - And like you said, every woman, the majority of women aren't supposed to have a thigh gap. - Right. - You're never gonna have, or you're not gonna be at your healthiest with the thigh gap, right? And so the fact that you decided to do something about it is very inspiring. How has that been received right now? - Very positively. I think because it is such like a passionate business, 'cause it's not just jeans. It's the whole brand itself. That's seen meaning assassin, meaning badass woman, just like encompassing the whole woman as a whole, just strong feminine, dainty, rough, like kind of embodying that. - Oh, stop. We're gonna pause. We're gonna pause. We're gonna pause you. How can you be all of those things? 'Cause those are opposites. - It's going down. - It's going down. - All of those, I'm-- - It's going down. - Again, not that the devil needs a advocate. - You know, but we can't talk about it. - Yeah. - But I'm being a devil's advocate. All right, you're gonna be dainty but strong. - Right. - But also rough, but feminine. - I think, I think-- - Talk to me. - So this is actually something that I just started diving deeper into and I just made merch for it. We just have a new design called inflow to the foil, which I think is a good metaphor. - Something about fire. - Yes, so a flower made of flames. - Let's go. - And if you stare into a fire, it's tough. - Did you not know what that was? Saf, are you gonna speak Spanish? - That's right, never mind, I'm sorry. - Oh my God, this didn't appear the first word in a row. - Why are you gonna flog it? - No, I didn't. - No, I didn't. - No, I didn't know it was a row. - You were speaking and I was speaking patient, but I heard fire. - I'm sorry, I didn't rub into your explanation. - But if you stare, I think you can also relate it very much to nature pieces. If you stare at a fire on the outside, you know it's gonna burn you. When you touch it, it's powerful, it's strong. But when you look at the flames, they're dancing, they're delicate, they're elegant. You know, they're graceful in their own way. - Or the same like the ocean, the ocean is crashing, it's hard, it could like sweep you into the current. But when you stare at it, it's very beautiful, it's very delicate and I think the same can do that. With female athletes, they're just women in general. - So you're saying women are dangerous? - Mother nature, oh yeah, I think. (laughing) - That's a warning, more than anything, guys. No, I love it, there's a quote that I read. And I guess I've never thought about it like this, is that it was like on Instagram or something like that, but it was like, women are delicate, but not like a flower, like a bomb. - Ah, something be that way, I like that. - Yeah, so it was like, ah, so it's more of like handled with care type situation, which is kind of what you're saying. And when you think of like an assassin, an assassin you don't know they're gonna, you don't know that they're to kill you. They get close to you first, they pull you in first. Then they, not saying that's what women do, but. - Oh, they can't. - Yeah, that's true, you know what I'm saying? - No, all right, I have my nephews over here, I'm trying to tell. No. (laughs) But I love the fact that you embrace, and honestly, if I'm being honest, I think that's kind of who Saab is, just being general, right? Like in general, like when you think with my camera, like when you think of Saab, like as athletic as she is, she's all, she also shows that, but I don't know, I don't know if it's good. I don't know if it's good or bad, right? But you're also feminine as well, right? Like you're not, you don't try to show up more masculine, even though you're an athlete, right? - Right, basically we could look that way, but I think, I love being a woman, you know? - Yeah. - My loneliness, my delicacy or whatever, that's not the right way. - This is a man question for both of you guys. Do you feel like you have to, because of your athletic background, you have to show up more feminine, because you have that in almost intimidation. The fact they're like, when you walk in, it's like, oh she has to do something. She has to be an athlete. Like she, like, or because you visualize yourself as being more muscular, do you feel like I have to show up at the opposite end of the spectrum of like, I have to really lean into my femininity when I show up into a place? Or is it not? - Look it down here. - Yeah. - When I was a kid, I think I definitely, when I was growing up, like middle school early teenagers, I think I struggled with that, 'cause a lot of the times it was like, basically if you look athletic, muscular, you kind of put, or put in that box, like that's who you are. You can't be girly, dainty, feminine if you want to. And I think as I've grown older, and I've explored more of my style in the fashion side, especially with the business, that has helped me express my femininity in a different way. I don't feel forced or pressured. Like, oh, I want them to perceive me a certain way. Either way, I'm gonna come as I am, and somebody is gonna perceive me however they want to perceive me, and that's okay. - That's called maturity. I think you have maturity around it. I think it, I don't know if you've always been that way, but I haven't always been that way. - It's gonna grow, right? - Yeah, you have to just learn that people are gonna perceive you the way they perceive you, and like, you'll be misunderstood a lot. Especially if you are like a woman, and like, or anybody who is fit or strong, or knows how to discipline yourself, because there's discipline and fitness. You have to work hard, and you have to kind of like, f your feelings for a second time, but it doesn't mean f your feelings all the time, never feel them, and shut them out. And that's where I think people put on a mask a lot. I did a post on my Instagram about this recently, where it was like, you look a certain way. I wasn't always put in the athlete box. I haven't always been fit. I haven't always had muscles. I've been overweight, I've been really skinny, you know? So, I think I've always been an emotional person, and had like, softness to me. But then when you get fit, people assume that you're just like-- - That's why there's your muscles feeling, yeah. - And then you kind of take that on, because you feel like, okay, I guess I have to be that way, because that's what an athlete is like, yes, yes. But also, you're a human being, and you're dynamic. There's layers to you. And actually, recognizing more of those layers is what as to your whole cheming, you know, like your whole persona. Otherwise, you're just kind of flat to me. Like, you're always like me too. - I don't think anything like-- - How so? - Because I think men in the athletic sense, when you grow a lot of muscles, people who perceive you guys as like tough guys, hard guys. But men in like, the athletic sense are always-- It's like, in like the gym world, it's like the nicest people ever, super small. Like, oh, he has to be so intimidating and tough. And I'm like, no, actually, do you ever get that pressure? - I feel like I can be perceived as intimidating. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, if I'm being honest, I like it a little bit. - Oh. - There's power in that. - Not really power, like, I just think like, there's a standard on how to talk to me. The standard on how to approach me. Yeah, yeah, people approach you with respect, right? Like, like, and I think it's probably the same way for both of you guys. It's like the way you carry yourself or the way you visually appear. Like, I'm not gonna come at you on some BS, especially by no Spanish, and you have on an assassin shirt, right? Like, like, I don't know of that. I don't know if that means you're like, that's very different than Larry like this. She really like, you know what I mean? Like, but at the same time, I wanna talk to her, but she may kill me, right? So it's kind of the same thing, or you have the delicate flower. Is that a flower of flames or, right? So it's like all these different things. I think my mom always told me to dress how you wanna be addressed. And so when people see you a certain way, they approach you a certain way, and they treat you a certain way. So I think that's how you show up, which is why I say I kind of lean into it. I don't necessarily, like, reject that as a man. People leave with respect, usually, right? And I think you guys probably get the same thing. Absolutely. I like the concept of the brand. Love it. Like, being both is, I think, what makes you a cooler person. But I think that's, I think, from a man's point of view. I think that's how you define women. Women are all of these things. I'm not just wanna, I'm not just dainty. I'm not just rough, right? I can be all of these things, and that's okay, right? Because, you know, especially, I think, you guys have the most pressure in how you appear, and how you behave, and how you act, how you speak, how you sit, like, like, people are judging you. Like, in, yeah, like, me and Jen were talking all, like, earlier, and she went to like a, like a, how to be a woman's class. And they, like, teach you, like... Oh, wow. ...how to move, walk, sit up. Yeah, you saw what I'm talking about? Like, like, all those different things? Like... Kind of like, white gloves and party manners, like, educate. Like, all the, yeah, it's like... I'd fail. Like, those things, right? And she's like, I don't know if I'm that type of woman. You know what I mean? But you guys are judged on all those different things, and I, you know, they're unfair, so no. I was thinking about, I don't know how related this is, but if you go back in, like, time, like, where we're sculptures of women, we're being made, like, in a Greek gods, and Mary Magdalene, and like, those women were thick. Like, those, like, sexy, sexual, like, beauty, was not perceived as, like, stick thin. But then, later on, it is what sexy everybody thinks. Guinea and models and Victoria's Secret, and 0% body fat is sexy. And then we're kind of moving out of that again. And at the end of the day, sexy is a feeling. It's, I don't think it's a look, but like, you know, Cheryl's gonna be attracted to a certain body type on a woman, his wife's body type. I'm gonna be attracted to something, but I've been attracted to different body types, and I've been attracted to... It's all a feeling, and it's all, like, a... Like, an energy almost that you're putting out there. But, like, it's interesting how women have had this evolution of what men perceive as beautiful, as far as your body. And men, like, we still look at David, you know, the sculpture of David, and that's just been the static, standard status quo for men's, like, ideal body. It's been the same. - You think? I don't know. I'm gonna ask you, well, I'll ask you. - Let's talk about it. - Let's talk about it. You two, you gotta answer, okay? All right, but I'll ask you first, okay? Dad bought or six back? - Who is the person? - I... - Who's the person? - Who is the person? - Who is the person? 'Cause, I mean, (laughs) the person that will be first. - Okay. - Initially, what are you trying to do? - Probably because I am an athlete, probably more an athletic stance. But that's just because that's what I grow up as. I probably would connect with them more because they work out. That's been my, like, mindset towards it, but I've always been more of an emotional connection. - But you don't mind a dad boss? - I think that was a cue. - You think? - I think the thing with body types being labeled one way or another is that people like to say their opinions out loud. Like, right now. So, like, if I'm, like, six packs only, then people are like, "Oh, yeah." - They're like, "Oh, yeah." - Oh, he doesn't have feelings. - Yeah. - She's right here. - Right. - No, but, like, everybody's gonna be attracted to something else. The problem is that we have, like, social media broadcast and what's right and wrong. - Ah, yeah. - Let's go. - That's what we say. - When men feel like they have to be ripped and all of this and, like, do what makes you feel happy, comfortable, healthy, and love it. - I love it. But we're about to wrap up, but we love to leave, our guests with the last word. So, it can be inspirational. It can be, "Go buy my merch." It can be whatever. Whatever your thing, yeah, "Go buy my jeans." You know, you think, you think, you think, you think, you think, you think, you think to me, right? Whatever your thing is, we wanna leave you with the last words. - Anything. - Anything. - Yeah, no pressure. You know what I mean? - No pressure. - Yeah. (laughs) We just wanna, like, we like to, like, like, to have you leave our people with something. - Okay. I think I've been in a very luck-in-vibe, just happy mood recently. So, do what makes you happy, love who you wanna love, and do something outside today. Go touch some grass. - Go touch some grass, grass, guys, on the floor. All right, the grass on the, yeah. - Beautiful one. - All right, guys, we are gonna wrap this one up. Thank you guys for tuning in to one of our "Another Micro Podcast" with Alicia of Essina. - Essina. - Essina. - Essina, I'm sorry. - Alicia. - Essina. - Essina. - Essina. - And these are real web, this is? - I'm sad. - All right, that's sad, that's it. 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I literally, when I was waiting for you, my text and Terry, I said I've been to a ton of shows, great energy, and I know he was, you know, had that anxiety, and I got more space this year. I hope it fills up. I just did a lap through here. The place is on fire. - It is. - Did you get harassed? - No. - No? - You have security? - I loved it. - Did you walk with security or were you just you by yourself? I just brought your guns. (laughing) No, I'm telling you, just everybody was, it's friendly, it's Nashville, right? Everybody's friendly, everybody's cool. All the booths are poppin', nobody has attitude, and you can still, there are enough people, but you can still easily move around. And we're just great show. I just literally texted him that. I said congratulations. You pulled it off. - That means a lot, man. - Where, I'm sure you've been to a lot of conventions, exposed around like, describe the attitude. I don't know about-- Sometimes, I think sometimes vendors may (indistinct) pretty much early size you up, and if they don't think you're a potential buyer, then maybe they don't give you 100%. And maybe that's only in the twilight hours of the last day of the show, they're tired, so you can't blame 'em. - Sure. - But, you know, if you don't have the energy, this is how I used to look at it with training. If I don't have the same energy with my last client that I have, my first client, I'm doing that with the service. And that's how I scaled back. I mean, I used to do 12, 13, 14 people a day, and then I pulled it back to 10, 11, and then I pulled it back to seven or eight. So, I just don't, I mean, I just said, I can't deliver at that level the way each-- - Yeah. - I should, and the way they differ. - So, I've always said, I may have 30 clients, but they only have one trainer. So, me at five AM should still be me at eight PM, right? 'Cause that's not their fault, I've been here all day, right? But if it's not you, have enough self-awareness to say, I'm not taking the seven PM client to finish his at eight PM? - Yes. - I used to be ashamed of that. Like me and I have not-- - No, no, no, no, no. We'll pass the year. - Yeah. - You know, to have 20 clients every single day, but then I realized, like, no, like, having 20 clients in general is a lot-- - Yeah, I literally did the same thing and dialed it back on my days, like, because I knew I couldn't be as high energy as I was, and come home and be that guy as well. 'Cause it's different, you know, when you're single, it's one thing, it's different when you get married, because my wife literally told me, like, say something for me. Like, yeah, she cares. - She deserves more than your leftovers than the corrects of you. That's one, but the other thing is, you're a human being, if you're gonna run out of energy at some point, there's nothing bad about that. You're training yourself, you're training the people. If you're that high energy person, that, you spend it, right? You run out. I know some people who always keep something to tank, they're very chill with how they train. It's very slow, they very rarely demo. They don't queue up a lot, they don't get fired up. I'm not that guy. So, they could maybe pull that off longer, but I don't know that a lot of people enjoy that kind of training environment. - I'll just say this, we didn't do a former introduction of who Gunnar is. I'll say Google 'em, you'll get all the information you need, because we're trying to get all this conversation in while we got you. We're talking about, like, a question on balance. How do you balance it all? How do you balance being that Gunnar, like, just you, what Gunnar likes to do? Husband Gunnar Peterson to the start. How do you balance all the things that you are? - So, you have to be very honest with yourself. Again, what are your priorities, right? And those will, that will shape shift more than your clients will. Like, that's gonna change as you progress, as you, I'll say you age, but, you know, different chapters in life. Like you said, when you're single, you can do 15 people a day, come home, and just fall face down on the bed and be done. But when you're married, you can't. It's just, that's tough. Then you have kids, that's a whole 'nother thing. - Funny them when you're single. Like, do you want to do that? Or do you wanna have time to do something else at the end of the day, you know? No? (laughing) - I'm with you, I'm with you. - No, because if you're in this, that's also the difference. Is this your job, or is this your career? And if it's your career, you don't wanna do it any else. Well, you do, you wanna go home, and you wanna look up YouTube stuff about different movements, different PubMed studies on is a real launch, more effective, from in a deficit, you're looking up that kind of stuff, you're tracking new pieces of equipment that are out there, you're staying on top of nutrition trends, so you're conversational, you're watching some Democratic news, you're watching some Republican news, you're watching some sports. - Man, man. - So you can have all these conversations on a surface level at minimum, the next day with your 1213 people. That's what you're doing when you're single. - So-- - Gunna, you're preaching. You're preaching right now, Gunna, because seven out of these things on different sides of the aisle with that. Like I'm very hustle culture, especially when I'm still now, honestly. - There's no candidates out. - But yeah, it's wrong. - It's okay, it's okay. - It's okay, it's wrong. She's like, what? (laughing) Just on the, like I like that part of it, because I was literally talking to someone the other day, and they're like, no, when you do what you love, you're never working that day in life. And I was like, no, when you do what you love, you won't stop working, right? And that's the, that's even the part of balancing that. Like when I come home, I'm tapping into something else to try to make myself better. I'm watching current events, like you said. - But you're also vilifying work. You're making work sound like a bad thing that we're trying to avoid. - Right, right, right. - I don't want to never work a day in my life. I like work. - Right. - I like work, it's not-- - Well, sometimes, oh, I'm saying sometimes I get burnt out, and then I wanna-- - 100%. - The capacity of the next day for those 13 people. - For sure. - So sometimes I don't. - I see. - You're burnt out, sleep. - If I need to not look at a screen and be studying or gathering information. - Do you have a little hobby outside of it? Do you worry? - Oh, yeah. - So your workouts, give me an example of your workouts. - Well, sometimes right now, they're kind of random, but I'm big in a kettlebell. So I prioritize, I do barbell lifts, I do kettlebells, I do body weight. And now I don't have-- - Do you ever switch it up and take classes? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - So I don't have the capacity to think for myself, absolutely. - So I would, if I got, like you said, burned out, maybe I would go and somebody would say, well, give it, you're still, it's still exercise. Still exercise, but I'm learning, I'm meeting new people. So different things are firing, different things are connecting, right? I might, I might, back in the day, a step class, a spinning class, a less smells, body pump class, whatever's out there, you're gonna jump on all of them. And there's some cool stuff out there, and you go, oh, I haven't moved like this, or it's gonna be a bike ride or a walk or a weight field, a rock or there's so many ways to do it. And it also doesn't have to just be physical. It could be, I'm gonna go inside and watch French television and remind myself what I majored in in California. - Yeah, whatever, yeah, that's what I'm saying. - Yeah, speaking of classes, you're really big in the F-45 world. - I'm out of that. - Yeah, out of F-45? Okay, you're not breaking news here. Not in F-45 anymore. - We had a good run there. - Yeah. - It was fun and next chapter, let's go. - Next chapter, let's go. How do you decide when it's time to move? Like, not just in that, just not just in that, because I'm sure you get a million different deals thrown at you. - Do you protect themselves? - Yeah. - And you go, oh, I should put my energy to that. Whether that's, whether that's family, or whether that's a new pursuit, start somebody turns you on to something and you go, oh, that's, I'm never known about that. So many tells you, hey, let's go to the shooting range. All right, cool. - Show me a crossbow, that's gotta be my next thing. My next three things. - Some crossbow? - I'm gonna be using a bow and arrow, whether it's not a crossbow, but it's gonna be just, but I wanna say bow hunting, but I don't wanna hunt. I just wanna learn the mechanics and the shooting that, because I see that world and I know that's a rabbit hole, I can go deep in it. That, it'll be chess and piano. Those are gonna be my x-3. - Chess, NBM? - Chess, not chess. Okay. - How about, yeah, how about, okay. - Oh, my son, my son took an after school chess class. He's got soccer, football, chit-chit-soo, horseback lighting, pickleball, and now he's taking chess and he's coming off and he played me the other day and eight years old, he beat me. And I was like-- - Never again. - I really don't know what I'm doing here. So I could take a deep dive on that. - Yeah. - And I'd love to learn piano. I think, I think I need to connect on that. - Those are very random, hot-- - You were random, that's really strategic. - Yeah, chess is 100%. - Right. - I get the chess thing. Piano, I don't play music measurement. You just wanna, okay, what? - You work the other side of your brain. - Say again? - You work the other side of your brain? - Yeah. - Sav, do you play the piano? - Yeah. - Sav, maybe. She won the Berkeley. - Do you give lessons? - Do you give lessons? - To you, absolutely. - Do you have to-- (laughing) - I know my words, though. - Okay. - I did. - Oh, 'cause you didn't get into Duke. - Yeah? - Oh, all right. - That's fine. - That's fine, baby. - You might be thinking of the smart people in California, I went to the music school, Berkeley. So I was about to get into any school, except that one. (laughing) - Oh, good. So again, priorities, training. How do you-- - The priorities can fluctuate, too, right? - Yeah. - Like there's times of the year when it's go, go, go, and then there's times when you gotta pull back and put the energy into something else. - Again, how do you know when, where, how? Like, how do you know, like, okay, it's time to shift priorities. - Sometimes I feel like-- - Because we've talked about, we talked about this on the last interview, we all know Gunnar Peas and the Trainers was running the engine, right? That's why we live the life that we live. That's why we have the access that we have. - Without a policy. - Without a policy. - I love that side of my-- - Yeah. - I'm not giving that up. - Yeah. - Okay. - I'm still doing my own workouts and I'm still training people every day. - Yeah, every day. - That's what I trained before I came to the sex club. - Love that, yeah, sing. - That's what I'm doing. - Sing. - Two people back to back. - Sing. - I gotta be out. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, yeah, one goes, "Can I do a little later?" I go, "I can't, I gotta start at that time." "Bye-bye." We're gonna have to come here. - So, time management, it's key. Like, I'm gonna manage my time. Then something I don't have to learn as a trainer is not to allow other people to run your calendar. - Oh, yeah, for sure. - Right? To a degree, right? Because we're so-- - That's why I went to the end. - Depending on other people. And we do have to somewhat work around their schedule, but little things like that, I'm saying, "Yeah, and I won't be there at Saturday at 11." I'll be going by then. I have to be at this other vein, so that I do have time to go home and, or whatever. - I have to finish my 10/30 today, in order to come here. I would have worked Saturday until noon, that would be normal and acceptable. That there's an agreement in our home that that's what I do, but after that, I'm all family. - So, I love it. - So, they have a birthday party to go to. I didn't have, I was not required to attend. And so I said, "I'll be at the video show." - Yeah, I love it. With, you're, you're very humble, right? You're very, you're giving, giving of your time. Yeah, huh? - I'm a trainer, like-- - You are, what? - Let's stop. I'm a trainer. - Oh, yeah, but no, Connor, let's be for real now, all right? Yeah, you are a trainer, but you're not just a trainer. You're the, to use my, you're the trainer, right? Like, you're the standard in our industry. - I mean, you're nice to say that. I look at that go. - I can name 10 trainers who have done, forget financial, who just done incredible things. - No, no, no, no more. Can't name 10 trainers, I've done more. - Different. - More, it's the word I'm using. - They're different, yes. - There's some great people out there. - There is, but-- - And that was a big thing in mind in LA, I used to try to bring 'em all together. - Yeah. - Hey, you're learning, you're growing at V, I think it should be more, there's an old saying, competition happens at the bottom, collaboration happens at the top. - Yeah. - You love the collaboration, whether it means on a project or just, or sharing ideas and-- - Was that received? - Well, I'll set you apart. - I agree, was that what-- - Is the fact that you want to clap more with people, and that is to you what helps you grow, and I don't think everybody is quite like that. - Yeah, was that received? Well, 'cause I'm not gonna lie, when I first saw you, I was like, "That's what I'm chasing." I'm chasing him, right? - Come to the gym, get a workout, let's get the shit, let's do that. - Yeah, 100% because some of the people, to answer your question, was it received? Well, by the same time I invited somebody, they were like, "Damn, I'm gonna finally go "to this dude's house and have a beer." But in the beginning, I think it was like, what's up, what does he want, what am I protecting, what should I not show? I think at first they go in, slightly guarded, and there's trepidation, but I think, once they see, you don't want anything, you just wanna share, then I think it becomes cool, and I've made some terrific friends in this industry. Like, I think when I first went into it, I was a little bit like, "Ah, I don't know, "I don't know, I'm just gonna do my work, "I don't know that I'm gonna hang with these people, "I don't know." But over time, you look back, I've been doing this 32 years, I go, I would say, other than four people in my inner circle, the rest are all from somewhere in the fitness world. And I say that happily, I'm not, I'm not, but it's not like I settled and said, "All right, I'll take the second guy in the draft." I feel like I got a lot of number one picks. I have some great friends out there that are just good people, and I know the others, maybe I'm not as close to them, but I put the effort into reaching out and making sure that they know me, I know them, and if I can ever help, or if I may need help, I'm gonna call on them. - Who are some of those people that you can think of at the top of your head? - Trainerwise, say off the top of my head, Jen Weeterstrum, Ben Bruno, Harley Pasternak, Ashley Borden, Magnus Leigbeg, Luke Milton. God, I'm gonna forget something, I don't know, but like Brad Siskind, my guy here, Colin Shane in Nashville, I'm so glad I met Colin, he's just serious godset. He trains his people, he's funny, he's irreparant, he doesn't get offended, and we have such a great vibe. You came to our gym, we have a great vibe in our gym. I'm gonna think of more trainer name, but then you go outside that in the industry, right? Randy Hedrick from TRX, Bert Sorin from Sorinax, Andrew Hall from Arsenal, like just people who care and who, they don't want anything from you. I mean, they want you to buy a brand's bench for us. - Yeah, sure. - Of course, yeah. - But if you don't, they're still gonna respond to your text. - Yeah. Do you have or have you had a mentor in the industry? Like someone who came and kind of guided you along, or was it kind of like, you just kind of figured out as you went? - Kind of everybody, really like anybody who's successful, like. - Saying, Brian Shaw is here at this show, right? Brian's training my gym for the last couple of days, going there, having him there, like is he a mentor? No, did I learn from him? It's nothing else, you learn true humility and just kindness, wouldn't, just a sweetheart of a man, he was kind of the kids, he was kind of the grownups, and you're just like, remind yourself to keep being like that, right? You see Jay Cutler's at the show, leans off, "Hey, how are you?" You're taking something from all of them, and it doesn't leave them without that thing. You're gleaning something, and then you put yourself together and you go, "These are my priorities, I want to be this kind of person, I want to be this kind of trainer, I want to be this kind of husband." How does this guy who has a career in acting, singing, performing, manage his life? I want to take notes from that. That's why I like working with those people who are highly achieved in any field, because they're doing something right. You know, if their lives are not collapsing, I'm like, if it looks good from the outside, and then you meet them and get to know them and work with them and you see, wow, it really is good, I want to see your secrets also. - What the hell's the process? - And usually what you said, time management, you're managing your time, you're managing expectations on that, but my wife knows I'm leaving the house at 4.20 a.m. She knows that, even if I ever retire, which I won't, I'm leaving at 4.20, I may just go out on the driveway, but I'm leaving at 4.20, I get up early, that's when I leave, and she's cool with that. So her expectations are manners, I'm not there. She also knows I'm picking our kid up from school in three of all. - Same. - And then I'm coming home. And then I'm going to be home, yes, I'll have 90 minutes of work to do, but other than that, I will be home, and I will be present for her and those kids, phone down, I'll look at it from time to time, in case there's a-- - It makes you, yeah. - It's something that's where we need to manage, yeah. - But I'm there for them as I was there from my client. She also knows I don't have my phone on the gym floor when I'm training people. So God forbid something happens, I'll check it on the hour, but I will not be looking at it in between. - So if you text me at 10 past 11, expect a text back at 12. That's just how it works. - I love that you have set those standards and expectations. We're going to get you out of here. We like to leave our people with the last word, so it can be something fitness related, it can be something life related, it can be, hey guys, I'll see you next time. - I would say-- - Whatever it is you want. I would say this, first of all, you guys are doing it. This job, this, it's not just a magazine, it's more like, it's like a manual to a lifestyle. I look through and I go, oh, that, oh, there's a connection. You can find so many, it's such a resource. So thank you for doing that, thank you for having me on that. - Thank you for coming on and talking to us. - Oh, it's cool, but I would also say the other thing is, we all know too much about health and fitness now to have any excuses to not do it. So I don't care, you're not too busy, there is time, you have kids, you have a dog, you're missing a finger, you can find a way to do it. So dig deep, plan, map your time out, manage the expectations of those in your inner circle and get after it. - Hey man, I love that, nothing else to say, Savvy, Sav. I am Beech real well, thank you guys for pressing play. This is-- - I'm Sav. - Sav, and I'll see you guys next time, baby. - I'm calling you for those pianos, all right. (laughing) - All right FitFam, that'll do it for today's episode of the NFM podcast. Be sure to visit our sponsors. And if you like what you heard today, make sure you like and share it with your friends. Thank you guys again for listening. (upbeat music)
