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You had it. Now you don't, you don't get to, you're not going to get to in a row. That doesn't happen in the modern era. All right. So we just fitting that we start with Ohio State here who ate one last year in the conference 11 one overall lost another big game to Michigan. I don't think that's good for Ryan Day. What was it they said about him? He, he woke up on third base. Is that he? So he woke up, not they. That's Jim Harbaugh. He woke up with, yeah, with the vagina in his hand. Some people wake up on third base. Think they had triples. That's when you wake up on third base, I have a feeling, maybe you passed out. Maybe maybe you may have passed out. You were having some fun. I'm assuming the other person passed out too. If you're still on third base, 10 and a half is the total minus 150 juiced over plus 155 to win the conference. They easily, they stand out as having an advantage every year playing championship game on turf in a dome. But I would argue that with the addition of Oregon, it gives them the most difficult opponent they would have ever seen in terms of like a team that is also going to be nice on turf. So Ohio State also heavy juice to make the playoff minus 650. That doesn't seem like a healthy use of your money. Plus four 50 for the Michigan fans on the no. And the championship price is plus four 20, which is doesn't match the vibe of Ryan Day. That's for sure. I don't see Ryan Day pulling a Sean Payton plays fat nugs and ripping, ripping the bong with his team. I assume we're all going to be on the under here, but let's workshop it. Yeah. So basically what can they get to two loseable games? I guess they're tough as games at Michigan. Oh wait, no, I'm right. Sorry. At Oregon ducks at Penn State. Do you remember it was Michigan at home? I mean Penn State is due to win one. When was that Oregon game where they came in there and two years? No, it was I think 21 maybe. That was a hell of a game. Well, you know, they saw Michigan win a national championship and they saw the way Michigan scheduled the past two years. So shout out to that tough noncon Ohio States this year's Michigan with Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall in the noncon. It's a good start to the season. And you got a bi-week in there just why would you give yourself a bi-week after Akron and Western Michigan. Why is the overs cashing? Really? Yeah. This is, I don't know if you don't see them losing two regular season games. I see some loseable games. They're by far the most talented roster that in college football, they got to go to Oregon. They got to go to Penn State. They got to go to my Spartan. They own James Franklin though. Scramby. That's all of these things are true. Penn States due to win one of these, but they were they going to lock that kick. Are they going to lose at Oregon and at Penn State? No, they don't see it. I don't see it either. And they lose maybe one of those. Yeah. I will say I went like that. I think this is the year they get Michigan, but you know, they got to get tough for as a team, but I think Chip Kelly could maybe help out with that. But Chip Kelly's there. I mean, they added Caleb Downs. They added like, like they just killed it in the portal. They had like quarterback. Well, I mean, assuming it's going to be a Will Howard, is there a question? Well, they brought in Julian saying from Alabama. So they killed it in the transfer portal. They spent, you know, this is like this is them in Miami are the ones that spent like a trillion dollars bringing in a roster. Has that worked for someone yet? Well, it worked for Nick Saban his whole life, right? But like these flashy like Texas A&M, like $100 million rosters. I guess we don't know. Yeah. And haven't seen enough, but but we do have at least like three or four years for the whole SEC for a long time, but but having these splashiest recruiting class has not worked. Yeah, but this is the transfer portal class. It's not the recruiting class. That's fine. It's new people on. It's new cash on campus in the locker. Urban Meyer called it the best roster he's ever seen in the history of college football. Is he coaching it? No. Okay. But he's coaching it. I'm in. I'll take. Look, this schedules, they only have three real away games. Ryan day is so pissed. They get and look where they give them. They give them. I want to fade them. I want to fade them early in the playoffs. Who's that? Who's this? The big 10. The big 10 gives a Michigan state in September, of course, cause that's when a new coach, that's when you want to get played Michigan state, they give them, you know, they will at home. Yeah. Well, look, they have three away games, they have three true away. Can we not say that the opposite is true? I mean, that will be Michigan state will be the first test for the quarterback situation. How do you only have three road games? Because Northwestern moved that game directly. Yeah, it's a foe. But honestly, they're like, I'm not joking around. They copied Michigan's format. The only problem is that there's a 12 team playoff this year. Yeah, over. Yeah. Give me that. I think there are 11 and one or 12. No, you don't think that the Nebraska game is a little sleepy homecoming. Nebraska could be pretty hot. If it was in Lincoln, not by Iowa stadium. Fuck no, they're going to go by 40. You guys are really being, I'm not enjoying the cut of your jibs right now. Do you remember when under? Do you remember when we were at the A&M game? Yes. We went to A&M Ole Miss and there was one guy for Ole Miss that you said, Colby, who was that? That's Quinn Sean Judkins. Guess what? He transferred to Ohio State. They already have trivia on Henderson. So they have to two best running back to the nation. Yeah. They're rosters. And Chip Kelly doesn't have to worry about anything but coaching offense. Does it have to make eye contact or talk to anyone? All right. Give me the black players. Yeah, that's actually a great point. Chip Kelly doesn't have to talk to the black guys. Give me the over. I'm, I'm, can my handicap has shifted. What a weird, I can't remember a time where now, especially because you see like in the conference, you go from being the conference from a head coach of one team to deciding to take another job at a lower position. Colby, have you ever seen that? I've never seen that. That's crazy. I've never seen that. Well, I mean, what do you mean? The North Dakota state coach left to be like a linebacker. Well, from FCS to USC though, USC's got the most draft picks in NFL history or a head coach of a prestigious program, but you're in the FCS and you've won like five national championships. What else is there to do to challenge yourself? But also, I mean, Chip Kelly is, I mean, I assume he's publicly said he just didn't want to deal with being a head coach and he wants to just coach football. I think he had a lot of things. I don't think UCLA cares about football. Yeah. That's the other and that's you're right. Chip Kelly is going to take. Yeah, man. How state's going to win a national championship? I mean, fuck, they're easily in the play. Yeah, this, this conference sucks that they're in. All right. Next up to we're all in the over. This is the most. I find this, I find this college football season the most like refreshing that I can recall in my life with the exception to the big 10 because we kind of know how it's going to go. It does seem like it's going to be high. Well, this makes me like Iowa even more Oregon coming off a nice year, eight and one of the pack, formerly the pack 12 for rest in peace 10 and two overall. Bonics now on to the NFL 10 and a half is the win total. Pretty down the middle plus 100 to the over minus 120 under two to one to win the conference minus two 50 to make the playoff two to one to miss the playoff eight and a half to one to win the natty. That price seems steep. So let's talk to the people about how they're just going to replace bonics. They got Dylan Gabriel who's and they got Dante Moore, the quarterback at UCLA. So they have two good quarterbacks. They're going on, you know, Phil Knight's like, you know, 80 years old, he's got stem cells and shit, but he wants to win a championship in his life. So they went all into a little bit. They have some tough. I think you compare this to Ohio State schedule and granted, obviously they have a Ohio state at home, but they have some tough spots here on the schedule. Cool beer. Am I crazy for thinking that at Oregon state? The problem is Oregon state. Like I would love that game if it was in November, Oregon state law so much, their whole roster transferred out. And then their coaching staff went to Michigan state. So like, I think you're catching Oregon state for the civil war at the, at Michigan, but Michigan, I'm not as high on this year at Wisconsin. That's sneaky to me, especially this November 16th to like, I think that's a sneaky game for, for the ducks there. I don't know. Colby, you, you got them going over a 10 and a half. I do. But I, I don't feel as confident with this one as Ohio state, because, you know, Oregon probably should have lost the Texas tech last year. Uh, they Texas tech kind of fun with that game away in Lubbock. So I still question a little bit more. But when you look at the road spots, like I said, they get Oregon state in September which is what you want. They get UCLA, new coach as well in September, what you want Michigan state, new coach. That's the first week of October. So you're getting them on the front half of the schedule at Purdue is, is not an activity. I mean, they're, they're crowds good, but they're not good. But, um, you said, so there's no real test besides Michigan and Wisconsin. They're on the road at home. It's just Ohio state. I lean towards the over. But I, I wouldn't, it wouldn't shock me. There are 10 and two, but I lean towards the over. This seems crazy that entering a new conference that they could be sitting here with a 10 and a half win total. Are we sure we like Dylan Gabriel that much? I mean, that's the other thing. He's like just transitioning to big 10. You're playing all new opponents, but I, I'm one that like, I know the narrative. I'm throwing it out there. Like I think the pack 12 is better than the big 10 last year. Yeah. Like, okay, Michigan beat, but there is a style. There is a style play a little bit different. Sure. Big 10 wise, but they kind of looked out for them for the most part. You know what I mean? Like that, like, uh, who's they like Tony Petite, the commissioner of the big 10 and the schedule power scheduling. They didn't give them like it. I see like looking at the schedule right now. I see how you can say 11 and one. I just think that yeah, it's tough. I think there's going to be one of these game that catches them all off. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't even say loseable games. I would just say there's going to be another game that we're not seeing on the schedule right now. That's going to trip them up. So I'm going to say it could be the Wisconsin game. Yeah. Like game scares me a little bit. Yeah, Wisconsin in November, Boise, Boise, starting quarterback. Yeah. Boise state. I guess they are at home. Uh, yeah, at Michigan, which, yeah, I don't know about, I don't know about Michigan, but still I don't know if Oregon, these Oregon guys are used. They've never played the big. Are we worried at all about the, um, we talked about this in the NFL when teams go to London, they're not sure about the travel logistical part of the trip. Is there going to be any learning curves? I think there is. I think there's going to be a one, there's going to be one game that they lose because they're in a new conference and they're not like there's going to be something that sneaks up on me. They didn't know the closer airport is. No, I don't think Midway. They went to Midway should have went out here. I'll go, I'll go under 10 and a half. Kramer. What are you doing? Yeah. I mean, I, I'm kind of with, I'm with Colby more than I am. Yeah. But I still think they're going to be good. I just think they're going to lose the game we don't see right now. I can't take both overs. And I, I do think I'm not all that in on Dylan Gabriel. And I, I do think there's going to be some weirdness with these. Cause I agree with you. The Pac 12 was better, but I don't think it matters when you have to join a new conference and like things are just different. And even though it's probably, um, it's probably not a, not super meaningful. It probably won't matter and equal a win. So Penn State, this is their year at Penn State fans are hilarious. It's very sad. It's very sad group. Every year's their year. Maybe this year's their year. Tough luck. We took all this shit, but they cash over nine and a half last, but you lost coach prior to my Hokies. That's the end of it. 72 in conference last year, 10 and two overall nine and a half is the total this year, minus one 70 on the over plus one 40 to the under five to one to win the conference. Minus one 40 to make the playoff. Wow. Plus one 15 to miss 20 to one to win the natty. They are a sexy pick due to their schedule as I'm sure we will allude to nothing, nothing sexy about eating fresh ice cream out there. Happy Valley, but they're sexy picked to do some things this year. When you, when you look at the, massive continuity, when you see who they miss, you're excited. My biggest problem and I'll leave it as this, the, the quarterbacks, a problem. And I will tell you this, that the team will not be successful as long as the, the offense is led by him. So unless he's, there's someone else coming in, I'm not in on Penn State being a power in the, the new big 10, they're going to, they're not going to lose more than two games. Let's just look at this schedule. How do they lose more than two games? I don't see it. I am super intrigued cause Drew Aller looked like shit, like in the spring game this year, but they want 10 games of them last year, but, but they brought in the, the offense coordinator from Kansas, but then it's light pulled. And they, they have stud running backs, both are running backs are nasty, but I'm, I'm with you Kramer, Eileen under quarterbacks matter. I think that game starts, starts the rivalry game in Morgantown. They, they fucking ran it up on them last year on Jesse. That was a lot closer. And with 14 seconds left, they, they could have let the clock ran out. They ran over the touchdown. Remember how many spreads it come last year? Remember that? I, any year before I, why do you guys, I get you, you're, you're, you're missing the, you're the, the take on James Franklin is that he can't beat Ohio State and Michigan, which is true. The best part is they're not playing Michigan this year. They're playing Ohio State. All right. Fine. They lose that game. I think he's only the one against USC. They lose one game you might not think. And then they're going to win the rest. They play at West Virginia. That will be a tough game. They play on the road against the Trojans out here in LA. They go to camp Randall. And then they have this nasty back-to-back road spot in November. So to beat it last time in Minneapolis, then you guys are crazy. I, I, well, you asked me where the losses are. I think they're going to lose one of USC or Wisconsin. I think they're going to lose Ohio State. And I think one of at West Virginia at Purdue, uh, at Minnesota. So nine in threes is, is what I got them going. 13 returning starters, tons of continuity, especially in a year where teams are lacking that nine and three could still get you to the playoffs though in the big 10. That's fine. Not getting over this. Yeah. I'm with you. I lean under two. I think, and another thing is they get Washington on November 9th by then, and I'm not high on Washington because they lost so much, but you're basically getting fish in year two there at Washington. Anytime you get the first year coaches in November, those teams are a lot better than they are in October and September. So I don't know. I just think there's enough. They got to have it. They got to show you they can score points. Illinois beat them the last time they were in Pennsylvania. The issue with Penn State lately is they have not been able to score when needed, like in the big games, that's, that's usually what they're, uh, I am super intrigued to see him with that offensive coordinator. But once again, like he comes over that, you know, if you, if you follow Lance Leipold teams, whether he was at Buffalo or he was at Kansas, they always have mobile quarterbacks. Drew Aller doesn't strike me as a guy that's going to be running the ball for you. He's a bum. And I can't wait for draft season next year for people to get excited about true aller. I do his arm strength. We're going to 10 and three last year, 11 and two year before I do love, I do love the, uh, the Tom Allen hires. Do you see though? Look, 10 and three last year, but they didn't play in Morgantown. All right. I like the, you could argue the schedule is harder this year because yes, they don't have Michigan, but they had to play at Wisconsin and at USC as opposed and at West Virginia. When last year they were hosting West Virginia, back to back road spot at the end is going to be something diabolical is going to happen. Max got into your brain, Colby. They're going to do. Oh, I like that. Mac, Mac has gotten into his brain. All right, circus sports, giving away $16 million guarantee that it doesn't matter how many people sign up for the contest. They're giving away $16 million, $10 million in circuit survivor, six million in circuit, million circuit, millions of course, picking five NFL teams against the spread every week, circus survivor. You guys know how to play survivor. I'm not going to embarrass you by explaining it. And the best part is sign up in Las Vegas or Reno, but you should sign up in Las Vegas. Hang out with us a contest weekend, August 22nd through 24th. 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Do we know what he's you believe you can do? I hope he's okay. Post football, three and six in conference for Purdue, four and eight overall. They're the low total for this episode. Four and a half plus one 40 to the over minus one 80 to the under adjusted. They are the low number in conference at three point eight, 35 plus 35,000 for the conference, thousand one. And they are the only thousand one team we will be discussing to win the college football championship. What's the, what's the word with Purdue here? It seems like not a lot of optimism. They weren't exactly given, given the gift of a clean schedule, noncon, Notre Dame, Oregon state. Are you kidding? In a rivalry game against an FCS. Come on. What are you doing here? So, but yeah, I mean, look, I'm a Ryan Walters guy. He played safety at Colorado, but I'm just not very high on this team. They got their best players left too. Like their star, the end is now a Texas A&M their star receiver. Where did he go? He went somewhere. I just didn't memorize all that. They did win two of the last three, including a win over Minnesota. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I just think it's a hard schedule. Purdue always does this to themselves. They're scared. I, in my opinion, they schedule the hardest and get dealt the hardest after the buy they finish with three out of five and really three out of four, three of their last four games are on the road. The home game is Penn State. It goes on at Ohio State, Penn State at Michigan State at Indiana. I mean, I, even if you're optimistic, you're splitting those games at the end. Where are the wins? I'm sure you could get to look at numbers, but Ryan off the top of your head, how many games right now looking at this schedule? How many games do you think they're favored it? I'd imagine they'll be favored in Indiana State and they could be. I'm saying, I don't know that they will be saying right now. I would say I don't know if they would be the only game they won't be three point dogs or more at home. Nebraska will be favored over them. Notre Dame will be favored over them. Oregon will be favored over them. Northwestern will probably be favored over them. Maybe not. Yeah. So let's just say it's Indiana State, Northwestern. That's two. So we're at the other and they let's say they shocked the world and upset someone to upset. They have two back-to-back road spots. They have two stretches in their schedule where they play three road games in four, 11 power fives. If they won four games with this schedule, I would, you would kind of feel good about the season, pencil this into the lock category. Yeah. I'm all over the. I'm with you. How do they get? How do they get to three? This happens every year for them though, dude. If you've been doing this, I'm telling you've been paying attention to this for a long time. They get, they get dealt that death blow every, every time. Ah, you talking about the Hock to a girl? The death blow. I'm sorry, Rutgers. Big 10 football in New Jersey. You know, the home of football is New Jersey Colby. I know you know that. That's where the football was born. Started with a couch football career. A lot of sports started in New Jersey. Actually, she looked it up three and six squirrels started there. That not true. That actually was a Chicago. That thicker crust, three and six in conference six and six overall. They did well in the noncon. Six and a half is the total this year. So they're basically the same team plus one 30 to the over minus one 60 to the under. I mean, Rutgers was one of my, I feel like we've been on the streak here every year of smashing the Rutgers over. I mean, it was like three and a half last year. It was pretty low. Big adjustment, 150 to one to win the division, 800 to one to win the championship. You know, to, to win the division, you mean the conference? What did I say division? Yeah. To win the league. I'm going to start calling them leagues. You know, this is, this is what it means to hear me out here. Well, because I said to Colby, we were talking about it before the show. I go, hey, Colby, we're going to smash the records over again. I'm like, but it's six and a half. And then he's like, look at their schedule. And then I'm like, oh my God. They might, they might have the best schedule in the whole, in the whole conference. The Scarlet Knights. Yes. They don't play Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, or USC or no, I'm sorry. Hold on. Or Penn State that is. So the top four teams, they do not play at USC. Okay. They'll lose that game. But here's our schedule. All right. So how they got the Howard Bison, then they got the, and the Akron zip to watch it. And then an early bi-week to prepare for my Virginia tech. But they beat Virginia tech. Not only did they beat him, they average over 70 yards of rushing on the road in Lane Stadium. This one I have inside breaking new Sean. This one, it sounds like we'll be a night game. Good luck. Rutgers. Then you get Washington coming. That's all the way to the East. That's a win at Nebraska. Tough game winable Wisconsin coming all the way to Jersey. UCLA win UCLA. That's the, that's been the joke. Kobe's been leaning on that joke for the last two years. Ever since we broke the news, then, then they take to the road to take on USC. You know, many people from Jersey are going to be at that game. That might, they might sync up on you. They might though. They might. But here's the problem is that you saw undefeated coming into that game, a bi-week. You said that as if it's like a national disaster, like the top 10 recruiting class right here's could be undefeated. Minnesota off the bar. I mean, these are all winnable games. That's what I'm saying. Dude, they don't have a single lose. Let me build you something. Here me out. Here me. I don't have a single lock. Let me only losses Nebraska that and Virginia tech. So that's 10 and two. Let me build you something here. Virginia tech games are relevant, right? I have to tell you, no, I'm saying like for them to make the big 10 change. I got them going 10 and two. I honestly, I mean, I only have them losing like that's what I'm saying. I think nine and three is like what they're going to be. Lock it up. I was hoping they had a, a make playoff market for this Rutgers team, but even they could easily go to Rutgers USC is Friday night. 8 p.m. local. Let's go. I mean, I still think they lose that game, but, but dude, my point is one loss. No, I was saying from the, from the upset potential Kramer. Let's add a Rutgers to win the big 10 to our list of. Well, hold on. Let's talk about this. Cause this is the problem that all these conferences are going to run in. Let's say they lose to Virginia tech and USC, right? Or even a, even another one loss, but too overall. Yeah. And, and Ohio State and, and Oregon play each other. Yep. I will. And Ohio State play each other plays, or Rutgers is going to take down the entire college football classes. The big, they're going to be like no more, no more letting the teams decided on the field. Everyone's been so upset about TV, like taking control and the conference is being complicit. They just walked into a bear trap. I know. They're going to accidentally leave us with Iowa and Rutgers in the championship game. Christiano's going to come out smelling, smelling like they're really stupid for going to that, that many teams, because it's going to be a reoccurring. It's not just this conference. It's all the conference. We get a four way tie between like Ohio State, Penn State, or Ohio State, Oregon, Iowa and Rutgers and somehow Rutgers and Iowa win the tie break. It's possible. Oh, we, that would break everything. This would be excellent. All right. So they screwed everything up. Call me real quick. How do they decide? The conference is haven't, they haven't worked them out yet. They're going to the tie breakers because there's 18 teams. That's what I'm saying to matter. This is something that they have a lot of, a lot of the press has asked about this right now. And, and it, they haven't pointed differential now that I call me probably is going to be something like that. But we're even like, so even mutual opponents. I don't know if they could obviously conference record would be the first time. They might not even have a tie breaker here though. Like I'm saying, like if, if they play each other too much, like Michigan plays Ohio State and Oregon and Rutgers, their conference record is going to be good because they're playing the bottom part of it. Exactly. And dude, we saw this with Louisville in the ACC last year. This is our greatest moment as a. Much. They're going to be like four and eight. The value is insane. Plus one 30 to the over. Yeah. I mean, I do think there's an element of the way the schedule has to occur that will just allow teams like Rutgers to not necessarily be that good. Let me give you three examples last year, right? Louisville was not the second best team in the ACC. They ended up in the ACC championship and they almost won that they would have made the 12 team playoff because of that. And I think whatever team makes the big 10 championship has to probably get in. So I think you're right. Colleen, if you woke up from a dream and you saw the logos of Rutgers, Purdue and USC all next to each other. What the fuck? 20 years ago. What would you think was going on? I would say, I mean, you don't want to know. Some, some, some three men. I'd be like, what in the fuck is going on? I'm out on the sport, but, but dude, so Oklahoma State's another, they were not the second best team of the big 12, but they played for the big 12 championship. They got waxed by, by Texas. SMU and the AAC was not the second best team last year. You need divisions. Well, my point is, but that was within that's before these conferences went to 17 and 18 teams. I'll tell you the secret and they haven't figured this out yet. Maybe the playoff expands because each conference has little four team playoff and you get little four team divisions where you play everyone in your little division and you have some formula like the NFL where you play the first place team from the other divisions. And I think to your point, Kramer, I don't know if it's officially part of the playoff, but at 18 teams, having a 14 mini playoff to decide who the champion, I think it's much more logical because I mean, honestly, there's going to be a get to how are you going to get to the top two teams without there being ties and then it's going to be conference records. They're going to know how the little guy felt. The ECU fan felt this will be great. When Penn State misses the playoffs because Rutgers is a schedule. I cannot wait. Honestly, you get to get the 20 teams. Yeah, five teams in each division. You play each team twice. That's eight games right there. You play three other teams. We should delete this part of the show. Cause I don't know. I don't know. I don't want everyone on it. It's going to be too easy. I mean, basically, I was just going to do the NFL scheduling model for college football. It's perfect. All right. USC, the Trojans. How many is how many private institutions are now in the big 10? Is this a number two? Northwest? Purdue, right? Purdue's public. They're a land grad school. Yeah. So the second private school institution of the great public school conference, the big 10, which now has 18 teams coming off of five and four season in the pack, 12 RIP, rest in peace with the best quarterback in the land, seven and five overall. Colby Miller Moss. What's your take on? Whoa, he looked really good in the bowl game. I was, I was questioning him before that, but I'll tell you, they got, they brought in Jaden Mafia from UNLV. So Miller Moss is a plant that you crush up and put in a drink. No, but my point is they, they're, they're sound at the quarterbacks. Well, both of them can play. Yeah. He's 40 to one to win the highs. Seven and a half. So this is the interesting thing to me. Caleb Williams is out. They were a dreadful defense last year. The wind total doesn't change much off of what they were last year, seven and a half. Pretty even juice, 25 to one to win the conference, 60 to one to win the national championship for 10 to win, to make the playoff minus five, 90 to miss. Can we talk about something for a second? Look, I, I've always disliked USC, but I got to give them their, their flowers here. Oh, wow. Comparing them to Ohio State. Ohio State's noncon is what, what was it? It was a Akron, Western Michigan and Marshall USC's is LSU Notre Dame and Utah State. Utah State made a bowl guys. They play three really good teams. You want to talk about games sneaking up on them after the, they have a Sunday night, like opening week LSU game man, LSU in Vegas neutral site. And then six days later, you're playing Utah State, that Utah State team could already got a, already got a ticket on LSU minus three is in my pocket. Yeah, they did try to get out of that game, which I find the best side. Yeah. But I mean, this is because the Pac 12 still feels like, well, they didn't, they haven't figured out the point is to play easy teams. I know I respect it. USC has never played an FCS. Is this part of the home and home that we saw LSU or is this completely? No, UCLA. That was UCLA. I'm sorry. Confusing these very LAU institutions. But having said all that, I'm going to take the over. So let's see. Did you watch them play with LSU neutral? Well, what have they done? I've here in some rumblings that they've improved their defense. What's your take on what they've done? Sure. Well, they brought in UCLA's defense coordinator and UCLA team defense was pretty good. Anthony Lynn, or I'm sorry, Deant, the son of Anthony Lynn. Is it D Anthony? It's Deant and Atlanta, I believe. Okay. I'll hook that up. But I do think they're a little bit tougher than a year ago. They went out and got some guys in the portal too that I think can make a difference. But really, you know, Anthony Ray, Deant, Deant and Lynn the second, but another thing I'll go back to is I feel like last year, the Pac 12 was a lot better than the big 10. I know they lost the national championship, but I'm talking about the depth of the conference. And when I look and I see Minnesota, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Maryland, on the schedule with Nebraska, I'm not that intimidated by that. And then you add in the fact that UCLA is also coming and that they're kind of a mess right now. And Washington's kind of a mess. I just think they're, they're ahead of everybody else despite that ridiculous, like it's a hard schedule that there's no true, like you're getting shittier, big 10 teams than, than your average Pac 12 teams, in my opinion, but, but that, but you are losing Caleb Williams, big loss. I mean, Miller Moss could be exciting. Obviously he'll probably put up some good numbers in that office. What if Caleb Williams did carry and do everything for that team? I mean, they won the bowl game against Louisville, who was a, you know, went to the ACC championship and Miller Moss looked amazing. Well, games don't matter. I mean, I, I, it's a fair, you have to say it. Well, also Caleb Williams did fumble a bunch, maybe cause some turnovers, maybe he was trying too hard to overcompensate for that defense. I'll say this, the defense was just so bad. It's tough to talk myself into a team, when that team winning eight games, but they were playing great offenses. When I look and I see Rutgers and Minnesota and Wisconsin, those are not great offenses. How did we were just saying nice things about Rutgers. But we're going to be in the college. We just, we just said Rutgers is winning at all. So, I'm just saying Rutgers is great, great defensive team. Their offense has been asked for, for a solid decade here. So here's how I feel like their offense is going to get worse because they do kill volumes was obviously really good. I'm with Riley always has good quarterback. That's true. Like go back to East Carolina. Yeah. And shitty defenses. All right. This is like their seven and five again. This is a crazy number. I'm on the over. I'm on the under. They also have the Nebraska game. And they also did him a favor. They don't even go to the East coast. Oh boy. That what October 19th in college park, Maryland, be half empty. That's a win on the under. Hey, if you're, if you like winning, you got to set up your old account over on rhythm. 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You were talking about the, the SEC recruiting chaperones or whatever they call them, the campus tour chaperones. That's what they call them. UCLA, UCLA, I would love to, we, we really should get decker on to hear his take on the upcoming season. Maybe we'll have to ask, get a UCLA leaving to be the OC of Ohio State. It's just mind-bogg. We're, yeah, we're going to, what we'll do is when we, when we have them on for the chargers, we'll get a UCLA update and Bill Walton dying. No, well that, that's, that's the Kramer and UCLA does come before USC in alphabetical order. Am I correct? What am I missing here? I mean, you're going to adjust your sheets so we're not embarrassed. That's a good point. I didn't catch that from the sports books. I actually full disclosure, this list was generated by AI via sportsbook. God. So one of the, the, I'll, I'll not name the sports book, but they must have not a learning computer sort of this. Well, two bit operation. We run it. I think I, I know why, because I think they list, they, they probably have it technically listed at Southern California. And so that probably is why it sits ahead of University of California, Los Angeles, UCLA five and four in conference, in the pack 12, rest in peace, 75 overall. Now down to five and a half. They did lose a lot. Also, Carson steel coaching department and players plus one 25 on the over minus one 55 to the under adjusted. That's all the way down to five Sean. This is one of the lower numbers in the conference. 200 to one to win the conference. 800 to one to win the national championship. This is a lock. No one believes in them. Going to show up. Oh, Sean, it's going to be so empty in that building this year. This is a bummer. Cause I like going to UCLA games. We're going to go. Oh, I'm going to go tickets will be free. Well, I mean, that's like that when they're good. But even when they're having some, some success, you can still tell Randy Cross. So the first time I ever went to a UCLA game, it was like what guys like the whole, the whole lead up to the day up, I don't have a ticket yet. They're like, don't worry about it. Like, but I don't have a ticket. What do you mean to worry about? And we literally walk up. We're just walking into the game and he just walks up to the ticket window. He's like, Hey, can I get another ticket? I would be thinking like, what the fuck there was a concession stand out front and you're like, Oh, let me get, let me get a hot dog real quick. And you're like, you know, that hot dog comes free with a ticket. You're like, no shit. Buy one. Get one. I did actually see a guy when we went, Ryan, last UCLA game we watched. I did see a guy bring in a charcuterie board and I made a mental note. To tell Cole, I told you friend of the program, Scott Bowser and, and, and, and, and, and just the decker and their, their crew, they bring in like a halftime food. Oh, yeah. Have a meetup spot where now that I know where it is, if you're lucky enough to be there when they show up, some food may be in your future. But yeah, people just, they literally bring the picnic into the stadium, which is smart because they didn't have water. And the last time we were there, we were fucking done. That's still like one of the worst hangovers over my life. How's we called you was trying to find? Well, wait, we ran into that country. Ellis, you guys, there was a lot of, there were a lot of hot, hot on his pissing on your truck. He pissed near it or he'd wait. That would have been Patty. See that actually pissed on no, that was one of that guy. That was the big bet on the, that he showed you. So I, yeah, and insane hangover. It's super hot. And then I'm like, I just need water. I wait 20 minutes for water. And then they're like, we don't have water. So I ordered topo Chico. Hard seltzer. That was the closest thing to water. Oh God. My head hurts thinking about it. Yeah, not water, not water. All right. You see, UCLA, damn, their road schedule. So hard. Look at this at that. Ellis you, have you seen that Penn State? Have you seen the violence Rutgers at Nebraska at Washington? I should have had this loaded for this, man. But someone did a, like, and they went through all like, they're okay. This is a brutal schedule for a good team. No, they went through all the history of college football, you know, since the, since the sports kicked off. And this like is times three, the amount of mileage. And that the most, the most was before because teams don't typically go, I mean, to the island. And then to that. And why? How did I miss that one? Piscataway and Pennsylvania. Yeah. Is there a team that's ever played at Hawaii and at New Jersey? No way. No way. Hawaii. Well, and they're, they're, they're in the state of Washington in Seattle, almost in Canada. They're in the middle of the Nebraska, they're in the middle of the country in Nebraska and they're, they're in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, Brazil, Eagles, Packers, and, and they go to LSU. They literally go to all the outer points of the country in Minnesota. This is another one that doesn't normally do have FCS. They did put one after just recently, good thing. They have that by week, week one. This is dangerous. Week zero. They might lose that game, man, because they're breaking. Look, I don't understand what the hell's going on at UCLA because DeShawn Foster, who I liked as a running back, like maybe, maybe the guy can coach or not, but, you know, historically running back coaches don't just, yeah, they're all of a sudden, kill it as head coaches. They're the wrong rod guys. And, and then, you know, I thought when Chip Kelly left of that, maybe they would go on on Chris Peterson or something and just throwing a bunch of money since they got this big, big 10 money coming. But no, they seem like they kind of phoned it in. And it kind of seems like Chip Kelly was right that they just don't really give a shit. And I can tell you this, I wouldn't want to break in a brand new head coach on the road at a, like Hawaii, I think, is going to be a bolting. We had Joe and Jones on. I think this is like a big step for them. I still think UCLA's favorite there, but it's dangerous. And there's no easy game. Where's their first win, Minnesota? Their other nine kind games are at LSU and home to Fresno. Fresno's beat them four straight times. Jeff Tedford and Fresno's going to win again. They're like, Yeah, this is an under this is a lock clear under there. What, what are they winning? Maybe Indiana, Hawaii's a 15 and a half point home dog. That's crazy. Is that the number? Yeah, take the points. So that's so will they be on the UCLA? Will they be favored against India? Yes. So they'll be favored against Indiana. They'll be favored against Hawaii and they'll be favored against Minnesota. I don't know that they'll be favored against Minnesota. And in Fresno. So they're favored in four years. There's not going to be like 10 and two by then. If it was Fresno in September yet. All right. Another lock. I like a lot. Oh, this is so great. There's 18 teams in this conference so far between part one and part two. I have five overs or six overs. I kind of am pace sharp. Washington, you dubbed Huskies nine and over and the table with Michael Pennick's great pick to win the rookie of the year in the national football league. Talk about regression from 12 down to six and a half minus 120 to the over plus 100 to the under. 65 to one to win the conference plus eight, 80 to make the playoff where they gave up all the teams to include a playoff price. They included Washington. Maybe they're just to catch some of their alumni are still drunk and happy. Cause that like there are many other teams that haven't had a playoff price that are more deserving than the Washington Huskies minus 1800 on the no. Do we just pull all the money we have Sean and put it on the no here? Plus two 50 or two 50 to one to win the national championship. Washington has no chance. Only six returning. This is insane. Mine. The fact that we can bet a no on them to make the playoff is insane to me. They aren't going to sniff the playoff. They're this year's TCU. And even with that stat, you said six returning starters, that's six returning starters that have played, that have started in college football on this roster. They only bring back 2% of the roster from a year ago. Wow. And the punters. I, I would rather like the punter and the kicker included in that. This is, this is, this is one word like to me. And let's talk about this, because Jed Fish comes in like, I understand that devour left for Alabama and, you know, that's, that's tough. That's a tough break. Cause you thought you had this guy locked up long-term. One of the only jobs I think he would have left for was Alabama, but you can't blame him. But you look back at last, last season's Arizona team and you say, okay, well, if, if Jayden Delora doesn't get injured against Mississippi state, I would have liked to see the largest sample, a sample size of Jed Fish, because Noah Fafita comes in and they ball out, right? Yeah. You look at what, what he did prior to that. This is a guy that had two losing seasons. Did they catch lightning in a bottle for one year? That's what it might have been because you look back at their schedule and you say, Hey, okay, they did lose to a bad Mississippi state team when Delora was in Fafita comes in and they rattle off a bunch of wins, but they still only beat Stanford by one. They beat Oregon state by three. They beat Colorado by three. I'm not ready to say that this is a great hire. And I, I question it actually. So I, I love the under here. And I'm not sure that this is going to be the solution for Washington long term. Yeah. I mean, you, you know that he, how did he do at the beginning of his tenure? I mean, he won one game in five games, but I mean, so he did get better every year. But my question, I would just like to see it sustained and, and, but he wasn't good right away. Yeah. He was one on 11. So like the idea that they're going to be horrible this year. Beals, they're like, do you see the national championship? There were five and seven last year, but they, but they can still be, I mean, I don't know if they need to be horrible. They can still be six and six and go under the sun. You know, they got our guy. Will Roger starting a quarterback coming in from Mississippi state. Um, are they running the air raid? They are running the their version. Very. Yeah. Variation. I don't think it'll be a variant. Yeah. Yeah. Let me be vaccinated for the air raid. We were state on the schedule. We worried about that one. I mean, they keep a good program, but Sean's directed in the portal, Sean's directional Michigan team, Eastern Michigan. No, I was a central Michigan fire. Is that you East Eastern Michigan? You all day. Watch out. Kramer is Western Michigan. The app is the apple cup. Normally in the beginning of the season. No, the fuck is this big 10? Yeah. Apples aren't even come on. You got to wait till harvest season and the civil war. They moved to week three. Who does that? Like they act like conferences can't do this. How come South Carolina Clemson, Florida, Florida state, Georgia, Georgia tech can end their season in different conferences every year. Sit down. You filthy whore. Sit down. Colby. Cause you're going to hate to find out that the apple cup is being played at the lumen field in Seattle. Oh shit. But guess what? I got news for you. Washington state's going to win that game. I was going to say that they had him on the road last year. They had him on the road for this year. Yes, it does because it's a brand new Western Washington state, new quarterback, but still bring back the hollow line though. That's, that's important. Not many teams doing that. Um, we, we'll talk about the ACC eventually, but my hokey's brought back a couple of linemen. Yeah. I mean, the Seattle Oregon at Penn State, late, I think those are two brutal spots at an Iowa, at Iowa, Michigan at home, at your, at Rutgers, another cross country flight. I mean, we were just talking about all the, all the travel miles to me. You can get to like four or five guaranteed losses fairly easy. Yeah. And then you just need to, you know, lose one. I think even if they were like a good team, they were probably going to regress back down to all those guys, the transition new conference. It's just too much. Fade Washington. I think they would be lucky to win a single road game, including the apple cup. I'll, I'll call that even a neutral site. So yeah, I, I guess another under for me, Sean, Wisconsin, last in alphabetical order, well, five and four last year, uh, in conference, seven and five overall, six and a half this year with a minus one 45 price to the over plus one 20 to the under. So what? 85 to one win the conference, two 50 to one win the national championship. Last year, they experimented with some, uh, some dairy raid. How'd that go? How'd that go? I locked up the under it cashed. Yeah. What was there? Sorry about detective. What was there? Uh, yeah. What was there? When CJ is not as sharp as us when it comes to the college ball call. I like to give him a hard time about that play. He's like, I got them to win that. The big 10. And I'm like, he was a big Mordecai guy. Yeah. I mean, they brought in Ryan van Duh, or Ryan van Duh, Tyler van Duh, I was set an eight and a half. We all had the under Tyler van Duh was like, talking about a Gazy quarterback, uh, they host Alabama, which is interesting spot, right? I mean, Madison will be rocking for that one, but, um, respect, you know, did you know that Virginia, I believe Virginia tech had either had or has a home and home with Wisconsin in the future that was, I believe Wisconsin backed out of it. I don't want, I'm not sure how accurate that is, but I'll just, I'll say it. Yeah. Look, I, I see it's hard to come up with it. They need to, what was it? Six and a half or six and a half. So for seven wins, I figure Western Michigan, South Dakota, Purdue, we're good. There's three right there. I'll even give him Northwestern four. After that, I think it's hard to find Minnesota, maybe five. I, I'm on the under. They, they, I think they could be a decent team, but not win a ton of games because this schedule, this schedule is brutal at Nebraska, Oregon. And I mean, and Iowa, I mean, think about this, Bama USC Penn State, Iowa, Oregon, all on the schedule. And most of those are away. Well, the Bama Penn State and Oregon, they get it home. So I guess if you're, if you're making a case for the Badgers, it's like, Hey, they got, they get, they can, if they go two and two and one, two and one there, but they won't. And I think they lose in, in LA, because the juice is on the over at six and a half. I love they're trying the air raid and they're going to come out to USC. USC is going to win that game. Are they, are they making any big changes in the offense? No, they're still, that's their, I mean, quarterback, but I mean, I just, I, I question it. I don't think they would do that. They would need to win. I mean, they, they're going to play one of the few road games at the soccer field in for Northwestern, which, if you're running the air raid is not a good thing. I don't know if that's a good thing. That's a back to back spot with the problem is that the crappy road games they do have, we like those teams, at least me Nebraska, Rutgers, yeah, but especially Nebraska by then, because your freshman quarterback will basically be a sophomore. Yeah, I would, I would say that I, I do want to be bullish on this Wisconsin team. I'm almost certainly going to be wanting to. I feel like they could win some games and win us a money. But who's the quarterback? Is it really? Fuck under. He's a, you can't. It's in my black book. It's right next to Fade Narduzzi. Oh, Tyler Van Dyke was a so Kramer. We talked about nine teams. You have two going over seven going under. Yeah. What? I mean, they, they do play each other to some degree. I'm going to take. I'm not a donkey. This is a, like, I don't. These numbers are food gazing. Let's talk about this. I probably should go back and make Oregon and over. Why would Wisconsin, Wisconsin before, under Barry Alvarez for so long, was able to have such winning seasons. And the, why would they vote? Yes, to adding these teams, because, you know, okay, UCLA is down right now, but UCLA normally produces more talent than Wisconsin. And then USC Washington and Oregon all produce more. It's, it's, they made their life way worse. All right. So we're done with the big, we finished all 18 big 10 teams. We, we have this working hypothesis that expansion is going to, it's going to take one or two programs that have, had a rich history. Yes. And it's going to crush them by Wisconsin. What two teams in the big 10 will that? Well, I mean, Wisconsin, I think Purdue will probably never be good again. Do they have a rich history? No, a little bit. I mean, they had some good years back in the day. Like they have an identity crisis. Are they a train or are they a weird guy with them? Okay. Wisconsin was, Wisconsin would be one that I, I would be very concerned if I'm in Wisconsin fix. I don't know that you'll ever be. My hot take would be UCLA. Of course. That one from a mileage standpoint too. That's an obvious, no, I'm saying they have the, you could argue they have the most prestigious athletic program in collegiate sports period. And for them to put themselves in a situation where they could be a fucking doormat. Yeah. I mean, they might still be great in other sports. They're going to be a doormat in football until something changes. And I think, yeah, they probably made basketball life harder. Both LA teams are going to be doormats. Like, it's just, it's stylistically, it just doesn't make any fucking sense. But I, I think Washington will do fine and Oregon will do fine. I think Wisconsin, the LA teams are different than Oregon and Washington played big boy football in my opinion. I even think Iowa, Iowa schedule breaks from this year, but long term, I don't know if that's the smartest, the smartest thing to allow those teams because I was going to have to go to Washington and to Oregon and to LA. And I don't think they're going to win a lot of games when they do that. Unless it's UCLA, I don't think they're going to be beating USC at USC coaches. I think you're right. You're going to see the program crater. Yeah. Whenever when he retires, yeah, when he retires, it could be this next year's, you know, like, yeah, Iowa does seem like their football identity is really tied to the guy because someone's going to come in. They're going to try and compete with like a high powered offense. Basically, basically all those big 10 West schools were stupid to vote. Yes. On the addition, I understand they want the money, but none of those schools can bring what, what those schools can bring, which, which is, but like, all right, let's make the question harder. Which of the power power teams is going to get hurt the most here? I would say probably USC, you know, once they get a schedule where they have to go into it, but I don't know. Cause that USC still has all of California really. When you think about it, as UCLA doesn't care, they get to recruit all of California, basically Stanford's academics are too tough. Cal doesn't care. So it's like, they have that a huge advantage. You're referring to the old Pac 12 Stanford and Cal. This is the new ACC, Stanford and Cal. That's true. See, see. All right. So we're all in the under for Wisconsin. I think so. I think you have to be the quarterback. I don't like fading Wisconsin here, but. So one of the things I found was the big 10, like, like I was alluding to, they have this, basically the big 10 and the big 12 have the lowest cumulative wind totals when you adjust for juice. They also play nine games, nine conference games. So they play more power fives. Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly. So the idea that the numbers could, could not be reflecting that because I think the average person would not be factoring that into their handicap. So yeah, that's a great strategy by me taking all the unders. That's what I was getting to. Great strategy. Great strategy. I went, uh, eight overs, 10 unders for all 18 Kramer. What he got for a lock lock and a future you like. All right. Lock. I'm, I'm sure we're all going to be on this, but it did seem like we all liked Rutgers. It's very much a fun. And again, I have so few overs and yet here I am locking up one. The unders, there's a, there's a handful that, that kind of stand out, but this, this UCLA, it's either UCLA or Washington, one of them is going to crater beyond wrecking. You know, let's go, let's go Washington. Just seems like it's going to be such a bad spot for them. The only thing they have is that maybe they, they get some weird scheduling wins future. I don't, I don't think there's too much fun to be had here. But, but I guess after we discussed, why aren't we just taking Ohio State to win it at plus 155? Yeah. It does seem like, I kind of think they lose to Oregon and Austin and then they beat Oregon, you know, or I will in the dome. The only thing I can screw this up is Rutgers. Is that a lame thing to take? Cause I don't like, I, you know what? All right. Yeah. Rutgers 150 to one. Oh, come on Ryan. I already had it written. Okay. All right. You can tell it either way. Well, what do you want? No, I'll, I'll take the, you can leave the Ohio State. I don't want to steal your Rutgers. Okay. Rutgers over six and a half. Lock it up. Rutgers to win the big 10 at 150 to one. That's going to be fun. Although I'll probably take them to make the playoffs is maybe more realistic. I don't know. They're both unrealistic, but it's going to be fun ride. And then the travel schedule for UCLA is just insane. Give me out the under five and a half. Call me. What do you got? Yeah. I mean, the locks are obvious. Rutgers over six and a half UCLA under five and a half. Interesting. I like UCLA too. And the future. If there was a third lock on the show, I would have taken UCLA. Let me just, let me just, since there's, you know, we have to choose from this only I think here on this side. What are you complaining? Well, I'm saying you're not looking at the entire big 10. I'm saying you're looking at just this. I don't think it's that crazy to take UCLA plus four, 10 to make the playoffs. I'm not. USC USC. Yeah. USC just because you figure if they go nine and three, right? If they go nine and three and look, they're tough as games are what LSU Penn State's in LA and then Notre Dame's in LA. So they're getting most of their toughest games. Let me, let me just break something down for you. Michigan's nine and a half win total. Granted, there's plus odds on the, the, the over. It's adjusted to eight and a half, essentially. They're right at minus one, 10 each way, basically. So they're saying eight and a half is the playoff benchmark. And so for USC at seven and a half to be getting plus four, 10 actually does seem like it's decent value. Well, especially when you like, they're road trips, like they're, they're four hardest games, only one of them is on the road. Well, I mean, it's not going to be worth like just from a price wise, it's not worth what you're getting. So it's good value if you like, if you like it, I don't like I'm on the over seven wins, seven and a half wins already shave it a half. Oh, that's the other thing, Sean. I was going to ask you a last question. What's the, what is the Benedict total or or future from this episode? You know, what was going to say for the whole big 10? I have for the whole big 10 for the whole big 10. Don't answer Colby. Don't answer. We're going to try to guess what Colby's way. You've already been addicted. No, I'm saying if I had to choose one the most unsure that I am to choose your own. No, no, don't tell us Sean. What, what? Now we know Colby is doing it in order of his favorite teams this year. So he's doing all the SEC teams first. So he hasn't done any big 10 team SEC over team Big 10 all day. Big 10 is half SEC is clearly a better conference this year, by the way, the numbers this year, every year, this year, definitely, and maybe other years. What team will he Benedict on? Sean. Oh, in this episode or whole big 10? Oh, something's going to happen with Iowa and then Colby's now. I've told he's going to change doesn't matter their quarterbacks. Like they're fine. They're there. All right. Oregon, Oregon is easy. Ohio State. Oh, you're right. He picked him to win the conference. Not what I was thinking he said over and he's getting, I guarantee by the time he records that fucking episode, he's giving me the other guys. My one was Indiana. That's the one I feel most unsure about. I'm over five and a half. They're a mystery team though. They're a complete mystery team to me this year. They're basketball school. Nice job. Big 10 over. Big 10 over and out. We got SEC. We got the big 12. We got a CC. We got all the big college football conferences. Make sure you check out those previews. We got our fantasy football, top 10s. Those episodes are out. Make sure you check those out and check out Colby. Oh, 134 college football team previews. Thank you for participating in the sports game in pockets. Poor sports game. My pockets. I'm showing it. Second of the morning green. He's Ryan, the big 18 show Kramer. Let it ride. you (upbeat music)
The guys (@GamblingPodcast) continue their NCAA Football Conference Previews with the Big Ten Conference. They’re joined by Colby Dant (@TheColbyD) from The College Football Experience as they give their college football betting preview for the Big Ten including Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, USC, UCLA, Washington and more. We preview college football team win totals for the Big Ten teams as well as player props, futures and more. The guys break down the new college football playoff format as well as the new conference format in the Big Ten. We discuss some brutal travel schedules for the new West Coast Big Ten Teams as well as other difficult schedule situations.
