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What's happening Colby looming 12 team playoff, but we, we, we go right to the most boring conference in college football. What is, what is this? I am East Carolina. I'm excited here to talk football. Yeah. Also, I mean, people downloaded the big 10 college football conference preview. They want to hear about the, I mean, it's not, I'll just say that you walk you down on stage and be like, all right, this is going to be the shittiest set of my night. I think I've said that before, but you don't, you don't, you don't have to oversell it, but some hype for the big 10. I mean, really the hype should be we're previewing the college football conferences. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like we do an exercise on the college football experience where we draft the top 30 games. Yes. Of each and every week of the college football season and we draft them. And for every USC and Penn State, there's like 10 shitty games. I don't really have this problem with any other conference. So I will, I will direct it to here. It is an 18 team conference now. So we really have to get rid of any conference names with numbers in it because it's just stupid. It's just stupid. Why? I mean, it makes no sense at all. Well, speaking of not making sense, Rutgers playing Washington doesn't make much sense to me either. No, there's, but we're entering a new era. We're entering a new era of college football. I'm, I'm excited. I think, well, one, the playoff format and that's super exciting. And we're going to be talking, make miss playoff bets, which is a, which is normally a bet we haven't really had that much fun with because there's only four teams. So, you know, the long shots, you really don't have a chance. But I think the big 10 we're talking about it. Maybe we'll hit on more of it in part two, stay tuned because we're doing the first nine teams in alphabetical order, which also interesting that big 10 starts with Illinois. If you're going to alphabetical order, but call me for the snorkelers out there, walk them through the new couch football playoff format. I'll even say like, I don't even, like for the snorkelers and the deep sea divers, I think, you know, we've just dealt with so much in college athletics the past couple of years, you know, whether it was NIL or the transfer portal or conference realignment, nice use of we, by the way, COVID years. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And the gen madness, but you have all this going on and you almost forget it took me to start doing these previews to really like, once I started doing these previews, I realized that I was like, Oh my God, this is actually really, really exciting. Like I actually haven't felt exciting for the sport like this in a long time because a bunch of different teams can make it and host playoff games on campus, which I think it's, I mean, we've been, we've been stating that they should do this since the beginning of time, you know, like, since I was like a five year old, I figured out like, Hey, we, they should do this, a larger playoff, play some home games. Because that's kind of what makes college football amazing is the home environments and everything. So it seems to be like all these other things are going on and then all of a sudden you realize like, wow, this is changing this year. We're going to see this. I think I honestly think it's going to give like college football is going to get people don't realize it now, but by October, it's going to be like steroids on kills me is it's going to, and we're referring to the fact that we're expanding from a four team playoff to a 12 team playoff where there's five guaranteed spots, five guaranteed. So with the five guarantee big 10 winner, SEC winner, big 12 winner, ACC winner. What's the other guarantee group of five group of five? Okay. So five guarantees. First round conference winners get a buy. So they lose the exception to the group of five, they lose a home game. I feel like that's going to be the first amendment. What the, when these dumbass big conferences realize they've lost their home game for their teams. We're going to be like, whoa, wait a second here. Yeah, they're going to see others. Other places get super rich. Like Notre Dame can't get a bi-week. Yeah. Perfect. But Notre Dame smart. They're like, yeah, why would we go along with this deal? Cause we can host a playoff game every year in South Bend. Also a huge advantage for an SEC team to have to go to. We've never seen that too. We talk about that. Well, is, is the big 10 fans into their credit? They've always argued that, Hey, the bowl games are all played in SECville. You know what I mean? For the most part or California or Arizona, but now you're going to have to come up to play in cold weather, which you should, you should have to do. You know what I mean? So yeah, no, it's certainly, I mean, again, I think they're going to trip themselves into the fact that there needs to just be more home, like more games being played at home. They're already expanding. I'll tell you this. They'll figure that out. And I think so. So the other part, so how are we determining the rest of the teams? Five automatic and the group of five, it wouldn't be college football without corruption. But the group of five is an automatic, right? The group of five have to qualify for something. Correct. It's the highest ranking group of five. Oh, so it's automatic regardless of how low that team is ranked. I believe. Okay. Okay. They didn't build like the BCL, the BCL loophole, where they're like the highest rank group of five, but they have to be in the top 15. No, I do believe there is something though. I think they're taking the highest group of five though, but yeah. Okay. So then how do they figure out the rest? A committee? Yes. Oh, no, lots, lots, lots of lunches. So there's still, there's still, you're still going to, I was worried we'd have a college football season without enraging Colby. So there's, there's still will be something to get really angry at. Perfect. Here's the best football. Here's the best thing though is for years, it was, you know, ECU fans or UCF fans or TCU back when they were a mid major. I am a line of fan. All these mid major programs, Boise State fans, I like 20 times, I feel like, you know, they're frustrated. So that's the old fan base that got screwed over, right? Which, you know, I thought, okay, you know, that was horrible for them, but, but you can got it. You can kind of like Boise State was a community college in like 1978. So like, you can kind of get away with that, right? Now the teams that are going to be getting screwed over are going to be like the Texas is the Michigan's, the Oklahoma's, which means they're going to expand really fast because once they get pissed off, they, you know, there's politicians that are very high that are Texas alums and, you know, we have been saying on this program for probably as long as we've been doing college football, that if you, the second we get to the playoff and for whatever reason, like the TV stranglehold and the idiots running it, like in the bowl, like games somehow prevented it from having the first domino from falling fast enough. But now that we get to 12, they're rapidly going to realize, well, I, I don't actually want this by week. Fuck you. Well, like, let's just cancel our conference championship game and get more home games because that's poor, more lucrative for the actual teams, but the conference championship game, the networks want because it's a huge number. But so anyway, the point is though, though, I would imagine within five years, we'll be looking at a 2014 play. I think so too, because because the 12 team playoff, it's, it's not very smart unless you have more core diver, no, I'm saying like having 18 teams in a conference. Oh, yeah, 17 teams. It's no longer the top two, like a lot of teams are going to get screwed over by the team with the easiest schedule. You know what I mean? That's the best part. We're going to get to watch. So these conferences basically bent over, spread their cheeks and let the networks enter them. Now they, they're going to have a whole bunch of pissed off universities because in reality, they may have like actually reduced their chance of access to the playoff. And, and they're going to be like, well, we need to figure out how to fix this. And that probably leads to some sort of bullshit, like division between the group of five and everyone else. And it's going to piss you off more, but we'll end up with more weeks of playoffs because that's the, that's the reality. We, I'm actually going to enjoy it. We have games throughout a time where we normally just have bullshit. And Sean, you mentioned earlier, the conference names being stupid. Yes. Don't worry. They're ripping those out. They'll be the fucking Chick-fil-A state 12, right? I'm in soon. It's happening. Like the big 12 said it out loud. I'm sure they're all going to follow suit, but they're going to be named and it's no longer going to be the big 12 at all. It's NASCAR. It's nasty. We've reached NASCAR. That's fine. Who cares though? Like that part I don't care about like the part that they're, they're the baby bent over and let the networks enter them is about this, this realignment that like oftentimes doesn't make sense geographically. And it is going to take away some of these rivalries that these fan bases didn't realize that they cared about. And also by the way, they, you know what USC doesn't want to do suck getting their ass be it by a bunch of Northern schools that fucking run the ball because USC has to go up there and play some bullshit in Iowa or fucking Pennsylvania say that to the big 10 for year one, they looked out for you for, for, for you. I know you have that. They look down for it. They don't have to go to the cold really, but I will say, and again, this is a, if you're, if you're in the sheets, like, right? I was very excited about the sheet. There's a new thought there is adjusted wind total percentage. I just figured I would make it a little bit more intelligent, allow people to see the, the, the juice adjusted wind total. But more importantly, work, work, it's still a work in progress. By the time you're listening to this, it's, it's probably not, but little breakdown between the conferences. That was a, it was kind of surprising to see like, for example, the big 10 did not have the second highest adjusted cumulative wind total. A lot of it speaks to like the bottom of some of these conferences. Now that they got bigger, it, it just drags them down. And I think you're going to, like that's going to be the interesting thing. Which one of these perennial like good teams that entered a bigger conference is now going to be on the bottom half every year. Power bottom. Yeah. I mean, I think jumping. I think we've talked about this before, but like, I think Oklahoma could be Arkansas 2.0 if they don't, if they don't pay attention. Well, I mean, honestly, we probably have a team we can use as an example in almost every episode we're going to get into. So like Sean said, alphabetically speaking, we're doing each conference in two parts. They're so damn big. The big 10 actually has now 18 teams. That's the first fact we want to let everyone know because you don't want to be sitting around your buddies and talking about the big 10 and not know how many teams are in the big 10. So there are now 18 teams. Interesting trivia. Like Sean noticed, the first team alphabetically is actually Illinois. That's somewhat shocking. And somehow, even though we didn't do a, we don't have divisions anymore. So we don't have a shitty division and a good division. Somehow the first part of the alphabet still is the shitty division in the big 10. So here we go. Starting out with the doozy here, Illinois, we all remember their five and seven regular season last year. Their numbers at five and a half this year, juice to the under minus 130 plus 200 to win the big 10 plus 1000 to win the championship. They don't even give. I'm not, I'm not happy with the lack of playoff odds for everyone. Yeah, if you're going to serve us 100, 1000 to one college football championship, give us 100 to one for the playoffs. Just you're obviously doing it. So the fan base can bet, especially for the big 10. We're like, you get, if you go nine and three, you're in, you're pretty well, you're probably going to get in. Well, they won't do it. Because they're cowards, unlike Derek in the circle, well, anytime they put up a yes, they always put up a no. They don't want to go too far because they don't want to have to put up the other side. Well, I would say this too, a team like Illinois, I mean, do they have a path to the playoff that isn't winning the big 10? Yes. I think anyone in the big has a path. I'm just saying a lot of the, but do they have that? That's what makes this season so interesting. Well, yeah, I'm saying, even though not all the make miss playoffs, if you think Illinois makes the playoffs, I think you also should be sprinkling them to win the big 10 at 200 to one is basically the point of getting it. Because I think if they get to the playoff, a lot of things went right for this Illinois team. Illinois actually was, I was looking at our locks from last year. Colby and I went three and one under big 10 locks, Illinois, the only team we're off. It's weird. You looked at last year. Well, I like to check back. See how we did. I did. We had Penn State to win the conference. That didn't come through, but everyone thought I was crazy northwest to win the division at 85 to one. That almost came through smashed there over three and a half knew they would rally after they lost their car wash, but Colby, what are you making this Illinois? Who won that division last year? I was. Oh, who did Colby and, and you guys have a plus two 50 Sean spraying half the team. Something's never changed. What do you mean? I love how they're going to add all these teams. And we're going to see. I win the big 10 championship again. It does feel like I would make the argument that their home edge only got greater. Yeah. Because everyone that they've added to the conference is it's diabolical for them. I mean, yeah. And the type of teams they brought in are teams that would struggle against an Iowa team. Like, but yeah, anyway, yeah, but Illinois, Joe judge coaching tree still. Yeah. Look, Belma had a great year, two years ago. Last year they had lost Ryan Walters, their DC to Purdue and just a ton of talent with that on the defensive side of the ball this year. They bring back 13 starters. Luke Altmeyer, second year in the system. They just landed Zakari Franklin, who was a really good white out at UTSA in the portal like in the past week or so. But I, I kind of think this is a rebound year for them to get back up and be at least a bowl team. Yeah. Just because you're returning that much production, the defense should be a lot better. They were, they were just naturally, I know we took the over last year, but we still, I knew they were going to rest. They were a top 10 defense the year before. And yeah, I mean, look at even though there are better stat in the, like if you're, if you're not familiar with the, the steel magazine, there's a, a brick in the top right of the last page that has information that includes like returning production. It's the best thing to look at with the college. Yeah. It's only the, the only have four road games. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll say man, the return production doing these team previews compared to a couple of years ago, well harder. Dude, I feel like every team has like two returning starters because the transfer portal. So I'm just like, it's harder to project college football than it used to. What's, what's their number? What's the 13? They have 13 returning starters. Is that, yeah, that's, that's, that's, to your point, that's no longer like middle of the road. That's a lot. That's a level. That's a level of average. And to Sean's point, they have a fairly favorable schedule. They do have to go out to Austin, which will be a new experience right after playing Michigan. So not a good spot there. They also have a back-to-back Nebraska Penn State early in the season, which I don't like for them heading into the buy. So, I mean, you, you essentially are saying that you like them to do better than three and six in the conference. Like they did last year, right? Because out of conference, they play Kansas. I'm not confident they can get that non-conference at least. Yeah. Last year was at Kansas. I mean, I still favor Kansas, but, you know, it's, it's much more, much more winnable this year than it was a year ago. I'm just saying it's not like they're, they're a lock to go three and O in the non con. And so you, you, you need them to win more than three games, but I, I don't, I mean, I kind of like the fact they don't have Iowa. They don't have Ohio State. They don't have USC. So that, I mean, but what are the games you're locking up? They, they even lose a home game against Northwestern. I think, I think that would have been the, and that's in regularly their play. You do like that. It's in a baseball state. I love them. I only have four true road games though. And, and playing, yeah, fair, but playing Northwestern in Wrigley is kind of a road game. I think they're better in Northwestern right now. And I also think, you know, they won the last time they played at Penn State. Northwestern is in Chicago. Just yeah, in Evanston, right? Yeah, that's not Chicago. But Michigan State at home, Minnesota at home, Purdue at home. Yeah, I don't like it. I'm going to fade you guys. I think you're, you're on the underrun. I think this team is going to be exactly what they were last year. So all rise. See, I don't, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't, I like them over, but I don't love them. But yeah, two and one of the non con, they get four, they improved a four and five in conference. They still go under. I mean, I, I would be over. I like the over. Yeah. I mean, I look at Michigan state, Northwestern Rutgers, Minnesota, Purdue, Nebraska is all very winnable games. So good luck with Brent Bilema. I'll go under Indiana. Pretty bad last year, one and eight in conference three and nine overall, five and a halfs, the wind total this year, juiced heavily to the under minus one 40, third, plus 35,000 when the big 10, some big numbers here in the big 10, another 1000 to one. I want to see if anyone puts true college football championship odds out because the, like you'll notice that they've capped them at 1000 to one for all the crappy teams. So, which pretty interesting, because I did do a little breakdown of the data and there are only 20 teams in the, in these major conferences. We're going to be breaking down with a hundred to one or better odds. That's, that's crazy. Yeah. Just shows you how separate, separated these tiers are. All right. Indiana complete trash. Why, why are we excited about them? Why do they have the same wind total as Illinois? I think it's because Kurt Cignetti comes in from JMU, where he did a fantastic job talking shit at the, at the opening. Oh, that was great. Call out of the state in Michigan and Purdue. You know how to get the crowd around up. They did a great job in the portal. How did that work for prime? I worked and your rest is over. Yeah. You won four times more than the season before. Yeah. Yeah. Worked great. You guys in the three and 24 in big 10 play last 27. I think that's why it's five and a half would be my guess. Right? Colder. Well, that should be lower. That's my, my angle, but they don't play a P five. They canceled a game against Louisville. They're supposed to play. So they have Florida International, the airport, Western Illinois, the, the Leathernecks and Biff Poggi and Charlotte. Watch out for my guy, Biff. Okay. Watch out for him. Colby's very excited about that. But they, their schedule, they do have Michigan and Ohio state on the schedule. They also get Washington like by Halloween, by then, you know, Washington obviously lost their whole team and their coaches. They could lose the Western Illinois, right? No, they're not that good in the FCS. Are you sure? Yeah. I mean, they're good. They did do a good job in the portal. They'll look like Western Illinois did, but I think if they get, they got to go three and oh, a noncon. They're going to go three and L. I think they're going to go three. They can be Charlotte. That's the one I think if they were after that long road trip to L.A. Enjoying the nice sunny weather. They actually have a nice schedule on the first half of it. Like they, there's a path where they could be six and oh, because look how many I kind of like Northwestern, maybe more than you, I think, based on my analysis of these first two games, I feel like that's a pivot game. I mean, Indiana brought in Curtis Roark and these are the breaks at the QB spot. He's very experienced. I think that matters. You like Indiana Colby? Cause I don't feel like an under I like the coach as well. But I think year one makes it tough to be fully bought in, right? You know, but they have the stretch middle of the schedule. They have this stretch where it goes by Nebraska, Washington at Michigan state, Michigan. Then they come off another buy for Ohio state. I'm on the under. I were like again, I'll take the over. Here's the mystery team to me. I put the last year's schedule. Cause I thought it would be like specifically with how many conference games these teams play. They went one and eight last year. They were in the big 10 East though, man. They went no divisions. It's a blessing for them to leave. Sure. Like you go from playing. That's the irony. You go from playing Michigan state, Michigan Ohio state, Penn state. They still get Michigan Ohio state play all the same team. They got UCLA. They don't exactly have the easy. Look, they're like the home games though. They're expecting them to improve by three wins. That seems like it's a bit aggressive. If they can take care of business at home, like, I mean, Maryland lost a lot. Nebraska is starting a true freshman quarterback. Washington lost everybody. And Michigan's breaking in a new, new head coach and then Purdue. Who knows about Purdue. Got it. Colby. I'll take you over. Hey, Sean. It's one of those seasons. Colby likes everyone. I don't. This is like each conference has, has a few mystery teams. This is a mystery team. I go, you know, this is the real bad half of the conference. Colby loves the first time he's digging in. No, Illinois, I feel better about like a scrappy dog. I'm late to Colby. I, I like Illinois better than Indiana. I'm on the over it. But so Kramer and I on the under a five and a half Colby on the over five and a half for the Hoosiers shout out to circus sports, giving away $16 million a guaranteed prizes. You got 10 million for the circus survivor, six million for circa millions. Awesome experience sign up in Las Vegas. Come out for a sign up weekend. Say hi to Ryan and I got some open bar events August 22nd to the 24th, but you can come out anytime between now and kickoff. Of course, if you need a proxy, a case, someone to put your picks in, you can go to football contest proxy.com promo code SGP, but get in on the circuit contest and also underdog fantasy.com Kramer and I doing a best ball drafts throughout the summer, get you ready for the national football league. 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They had a ton of injuries last year. 41 to one to win the conference to bring him back 10 defensive stars. I know. And Phil Parker is one of the best defensive coordinators in all of college football. And to me, no Penn State, Oregon or Michigan. And what happened last year? Caden at McNamara, who's, who's, who's, you know, a guy that took Michigan to the playoffs. He is, he wasn't good enough. No, he got, but he got injured. Like in, in game two or three, it was out for the season. Same with Luke Lachey, son of Jim Lachey, you know, one of the better off. It's a lineman ever. And he's going to be a first on pick at tight end. This team is way better. How do we explain this? This is because it's a popular thing. It's funny. Like you listen to some other podcast. They'll say what's popular, you know, call these talking about the memes, make it fun. They're stupid. They don't know football. In my opinion, like what do you mean? They're going to win. They're going to win a bunch of good games again. Like 17, 14, but because people and drama from them having to fire that his son. Yeah. Well, just the fact that like they laugh at that, but it, their defense is always amazing. It's like the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. They just stayed at home. Yeah, which I would say want that. That's always the crazy game that playing Iowa State. Well, I would say one the last time they went to, I know how off it. What's the record over the last 10? Yeah, but that, but dude, that's the record, but it's like 13 to 10. So the road games are winnable road games too at UCLA at Maryland. Now obviously at Michigan State, well, you know how many Iowa fans will be out at the Rose Bowl November. I mean, at Ohio State, but it's the only loss. That's a flat out loss. Everything I lost. But even that one, they're coming off a buy at least. We might have to go to this Friday night, Iowa, UCLA game. Oh, that'll be a nine p.m. It's a six p.m. on these games. Dude, like, I don't even see like it's a great schedule for them. That's what I love is people. This is, this is going to be fantastic because they bitched and moaned about the that division, the big 10 West and they're saying, I'm so glad we're not going to see Ohio State and Iowa. You're going to see Ohio State and Iowa yet again. Where are they getting their losses? And they have a buy to prepare for Ohio State. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to lose to Ohio State. Actually going to get waxed by Ohio State, but, but I still think, dude, they went out and hired Tim Lester at the OC spot. Tim Lester, you look back at what he did at Western Michigan. You know, they fired him. He was going like six and six. Where are they losing five games? But he won at pit and Narduzzi keeps a good defense there. He scored like 40 or something on them. So I do think the offense will be a little more exciting to any value and make playoff seven to one. Yes. Yes. I think they're going to host the playoff game because they can, they can get, they can get to imagine if they go 11 and one TV executive. Why the fuck are we in? But also too. Well, have fun. Oh, do you think the committee is going to be favorable to Iowa call me? Because I think for them to make the playoff, do they have to get to the big 10 championship game? If they win all their games, but Ohio State, you can't keep them out of a 12 team play. And don't you just also want to take them? I mean, if you like them to make the playoffs at seven, a while for you, like you also have to sprinkle them to win the big 10. I don't like him. The big 10 because it's in a dome. It's in a dome and all that speed, whether it's Ohio state, whether it's Oregon that's that speed in a dome is so anti big 10. So I agree with Colby here. I think seven ones, a much better bet. You're, I mean, you can play both. Yeah, but they're going to play the conference championship, most likely against the team that relies on speed in a dome. It doesn't seem like the way, the way that they're going to make noises by somehow hosting a playoff game. Dude, it's going to be hilarious when Lane Kiffin has to take Ole Miss to play Iowa on December 20th. I want that. I want that for Christmas. All right. I'm heading along to some turtle. We're all on the overall and we'll be talking about, I mean, the playoff price. Seven one Sean. That's like a 20 point dog or something like that on a Sunday. Alright. We were discussing turtles earlier as we were making sure to not create more plastic waste. Reusing cups at Starbucks, Sean, a big stall hunter, Maryland, remember, glorious season to his little brother seven and five last year, four and five in conference, six and a half is the wind total this year. And we've got some juice headed towards the over minus one 35 100 to one to win the conference. Out of chance 500 to one to win the whole thing, which I don't see how you could possibly rationalize the idea that those prices are even close to correct. Yeah. Maryland's an interesting team to me. They certainly are like the counterbalance now to the West coast teams. And there's always, we're going to get a couple, make a game every year where we're talking about a West coast team having to come all the way to, you know, we're going to start talking like NFL travel. I don't have a ton of takes on this Maryland team. The wind total suggests they're a little bit worse than they were last year, but they brought an MJ Morris who flashed really well at NC state last year when Brendan Armstrong got injured. He came in as a freshman. Look really good. I'm surprised he actually transferred out. So they brought him in and, and yeah, I mean, Josh Gaddis still the OC there in former Michigan guy. Um, that wasn't the problem. Yeah. It's just a sloppy team to me. Like they're all these. Yeah. But they always do have talent. Locksley. We've had issues with over the past. They are bringing 13 starters back front seven, I think, from according to our buddy Phil Steele, the defense decidable. Yeah, should be decent, right? They had Locksley. Yeah. I mean, look, you know, the front half of the schedule is genius. The noncon is genius too. Yukon at Virginia and Villanova are your, your noncon games. I mean, Yukon's probably the hardest game there. Um, so I mean, I guess Virginia's a rivalry game. So maybe, maybe you, you circle that, but, uh, they could start off pretty, pretty decent though. I guess is the counter. I don't, I don't, I don't love their over, but I mean, struggle against teams like Penn State. I mean, at Oregon, at Penn State, those are losses. Even Rutgers at home, I think Rutgers is, I will always fuck them up. I will, even though they are playing at home, I think it's going to be tough. Like I could see them starting out well, but that I mean from the, and why did they get two bi-weeks? Everyone, everyone gets two bi-weeks now. That's the, that's the standard issue schedule now. Yeah, the fuck they're, they're, they're leading the NFL to the double by land that once, yeah, NFL is going to get 18 games and a double by is my prediction. I, I will go under here actually at six and a half. I think I have to just cause I took Indiana over and I think that Indiana game might be the difference in them going to seven wins. So I'll take the under. I still, I would say this is not one of the stronger plays of the, of the big 10. They had a lot of winnable games. I mean, they could do, they could easily be five and now easily be five and no, they get Michigan state game two of the Jonathan Smith era. You got a favor Maryland there, right? Virginia is still ass. Yeah. You know, like they could easily be five and no. And then you're saying, Hey, can you win two games down the stretch? Tell me USC can't drop a game. Right? Well, you got Northwestern and Rutgers still out there. So I mean, it's possible. I'm still going to go under though. Yeah. We, we really, I mean, we just workshopped it. Isn't, didn't we just workshop seven wins pretty easily? What am I missing? I think Indiana gets them. I don't even love this. I don't love this team. Let's see. One, two, three, just make sure I didn't out there for one of those five, one of those six. You're right. I'm under. All right. Yeah. I don't this, this, that team, yeah, I don't know. I'm stayed away from Maryland. I told you this was the ass side of the conference. So we might have more unders than overs. Michigan, the one of the few bright spots, but they're without a lot of important players and the head coach who I think matters more than most head coaches. Of course they swept it last year, winning a national championship, Jim Harbaugh, triumphantly heading to the NFL. Fuck the NCAA nine and a half wins this year seems aggressive. The odds agree minus two 15 to the under. That actually adjusts all the way down to eight point four or five. So I don't know what they're doing here. Michigan alum just betting the over there that's taking money here. Seven to one to win the conference minus one to five to win, to make the playoff minus one 15 to miss the playoff. That's the first reasonable make miss 25 to win 25 to one to win the national championship. I mean, don't we all agree that Harbaugh matters and this, like they're not going to, they weren't a team filled with five stars. They lost a lot of the core and the better players on the team. So I did, I did a little deep dive with teams post one year Harbaugh, San Diego. They were 11 and one is last year next year bar at Harbaugh and plus one. Yeah. The next year they were nine and two Stanford 12 and one next year, 11 and two. I think the difference there was the roster was still somewhat good. And you look, yeah. And you saw the complete fall off a couple of years down the line where because of one, the transfer portal losing heart losing Blake quorum, Jay McCarthy, San Francisco, I think is actually a better comparison because they were eight and eight his last year in 2014. The next year they dropped down to five and 11 and then completely fell off again. So, but he did have a like replacement in at Stanford in terms of a well respected, like ended up being a good coach, but yeah, to that point, Andrew Luck kind of tips the, yeah, he's huge. Um, number seven in experience last year in the championship team, 117 this year, well, at least seven starters return. Yeah, that's, that's, this is crazy. And the quarterbacks, not one of them, your bell count. I mean, I understand running backs, maybe, I mean, also too, like expectations, the Michigan fan base, they, they're on cloud nine for like five years. There's gonna be no pressure. If this team goes eight and four, nine and three, are people gonna be calling for the head coach's job? Like no, I think they'll be happy nine and three. I mean, you were, the juice is crazy right now. I wish they would just move it to eight and a half, but I can't take Michigan to win 10 games right now. That's crazy. I'll take it. You really you like the overt. They got three first round picks on their defense. Uh, to me, I think that defense is the best in college football, them or Georgia doesn't matter. Well, I, and Sean Moore's already coached three or four games. You forget about, uh, the Harbaugh kind of, uh, uh, I was coaching. Sean Moore's one and O against Ohio State. All right. Uh, but, um, you look at the schedule and like to me, it's a, it's kind of like a three game season to me, right? Texas, uh, Texas, Oregon and Ohio State, right? So if they can just go, if they can just win one of those and take care of business and the rest. So you don't see any other areas. USC, USC could trip them up. Maybe Washington, but they lost everybody, man. I think that, but they're this year's TCU, WAP, Washington lost like 98% of the roster. They got, they got, they completely raped. I just think it's a nice schedule still. Like, do you have confidence that Ohio State's definitely going to win this one against them? Cause Ohio State's got to be more physical, man. Yes. I think they're finally, they're like, all right. Harbaugh is gone. We got the pressure. It's winter. It should, or should, or should or get the pie. I'm with you. I think this is Ohio State's year to do it, but they still got to prove it. What was Harbaugh's record versus Ohio State? Well, he's against Ryan Day. It was three and a what about before that? I know he was terrible. It was pretty bad. It was winless. It took him a while to start winning. I'm just saying it took him a while to start winning. He just, he happened to start winning when dumb, dumb Ryan Day took over from urban Meyer and coincidence. I think not. I think that more is probably like, I probably favor more over Ryan Ryan Day is clearly just like, but here's the thing. You get Texas and Oregon at the big house. So it's like those, you know, I, this Texas team is going to be a different animal though. I mean, I do, I agree. That's a, that's a tough environment to go into. So you're basically saying they come out hot, they run the table, they're undefeated coming out of the buy. They don't trip it up at all. Well, they could lose the Texas, but beat Oregon just want, they have to win one of those. And to me, I think they will, because I'm with you. The schedule is pretty easy. Maybe I, I don't mind. I just think that like they lost so much. Yeah. And that's a lot of matters. They lost so much on the offensive side of the ball. The defense side of the ball is awesome. Yeah. The, the, and the schedule is favorable. They got this kid from Maryland coming in, bar him at the linebacker spot. That's going to be a first round or two. I think like their defense is just loaded. And then Colston leveling back a tight end. And this, this guy, Alex Orgy, they, he's supposed to be like a running quarterback. Just a letdown after you think you're originally. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm sticking with the under. I see the case. Hold on. I got to look at this guy up. It's spelled like O-R-G-Y. O-R-G-I. Oh, J-I. Yeah. But, and another Donovan Edwards is back at the running back spot. This is a guy that's got a lot of starts in his career. Where did this guy come from? Alex Orgy? See a freshman? He is a junior. He's been waiting in the ranks. Sean, I'm reversing my pick. What? Show me this. This guy just looks like he's going to have some highlights. I'm going to guess he's like Dennard Robinson mixed with Lamar Jackson somewhere in there. Yeah. I'm excited to see how they use it. It's a wide range because I think they might get pretty creative on, on, on how they use him. You know, like he's not your traditional like dropback though, though type of quarterback. It's almost like what's his name at Bama a little bit. What the fuck? Did he, did he transfer from Virginia Tech or something? Why am I, why am I, why am I seeing pictures of him wearing okay, why you breaking this guy up? The fuck, dude. What are you doing? Are you taking the under? I, I, my instincts, my gambling instincts say take the under here. But now that we've talked to that, it almost seems contrarian to take the over. Hmm. I'll go with Colby. Colby knows ball. I'll stick with, I'll stick with the under. I'm out on Michigan. I, hardball, 75, all matters to me with that juice. I'm not giving, I'm not giving the people a minus. I'm just saying the road schedule. You want to talk? You want to talk? I'll take the over. You want to talk about prepare to hear me, bitch, but I love this. This is perfect. It's, it's yeah. Now I'm in a no lose situation. I either, I either win my bed or I blame Colby. But for a way, the schedule is, is favorable. I guess my instinct just say Harbaugh's gone, let down season after the championship, but to get to 10 wins, I guess I guess if you break it down as they just have to win one against sexist or Oregon, I mean, they got to avoid the upset that Illinois games a little tricky, but they get the buy before it. I was randomly looking at my college football notes here. And I have a note that says week zero slash one is bullshit. Don't waste time prepping on early games. So all right, moving along Michigan state who I, I kind of have an eye for this year. I'm intrigued. I feel like they're, they're one of those stocks that you just buy when they're at two cents because you can't really lose all that much. They were two and seven last year in conference for an eight overall. The, the total is all the way down at four and a half, minus one 55 to the over. That adjusts almost to five there. So maybe we can move this one guys, although we don't like a full number of totals. We appreciate the half number of totals. Plus 23,000 to win the conference and another 1000 to one to win the national championship. Colby, Michigan state's got to be better than they have been, right? I mean, Jonathan Smith's a great coach. Like they hit, they hit it out of the ballpark with this, with this hire comes from the power five too. He's not one of these upgrade guys. I mean, he was a longtime Chris Peterson guy, you know what I mean? Like you go back and look, he was at Washington when they made the playoffs. He was at Boise when they had their undefeated season. So I'm certainly going to talk out of both sides of my mouth when it comes to new coaches with this situation. All right. And I like the noncon. I understand that in this case, keep an eye on this guy, Aidan Charles, he's going to be a fucking stud at the quarterback spot. Right. I like that. He's going to be a stud. Given people name so they can think they know what they're talking about. The noncon of Florida, Atlantic, a little dangerous to me. That's a little dangerous, but a Prairie view, shout out to Bubba McDowell. And then he played safe. You played safe high 97. The plate taste under buddy Ryan on the huge shout out to you. Come on. What do you got? You got a big ops of Brooklyn. We got a swag bag and some got some purple swag Boston colleges is about. Oh, that's a parking lot. You want to talk about it? Like so like they could easily be three and no in the noncon Boston colleges. That's a best buy after the roof got blown off by a tornado. That's what that's. Have you been to that stadium? No, I have no lacks character. It's the Ohio State Oregon stretch that scares me. Then you have the Iowa, but we said four and a half, right? Yeah. Five. So like to me, it wouldn't shock me if they knocked off Maryland. I still favor Maryland, but you can they be Purdue and Rutgers? Yeah. Yeah. I mean Purdue for sure. Indiana. They can be if you think you if you think they can be Purdue and Rutgers, you're you. I mean, I'm on the fence. Yeah. I don't know. I have enough half wins here. I feel like I got to be on the over. I mean, I know there's some juice involved here, but Purdue, they can be. They're also going to randomly upset someone. I'll take the over to. I know I'm doing all overs right now, but have you taken an under? Yeah, it took. It took Maryland under. Maybe I should revert. Maybe we should swap back to under on Michigan. I didn't I forgot Colby's really optimistic. Yeah. So I mean, I didn't I wasn't going to have under on Michigan, whatever you're doing. Why are you listening to me? Yeah. All right. I'm going back. 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I'll fucking chew on the data. All right. Where are we at? Minnesota, the gophers, the gophers of Minnesota rode a boat, baby, had a nice season at the barn once again on the basketball side, not so good. Row in the boat with Mr. Fleck, three and six in conference, five and seven overall total sits right around that at five and a half plus one 15 to the over. So basically they're saying they're going to be the same team they were last year, plus 23,000 to win the conference and another one thousand a one to win it all. Any, any positive, like the PJ Fleck culture continues to put guys in the NFL. Continues to seem like a culture that we're eventually going to read or learn some, something horrible happens there. Maybe euphemisms for a rowboat or something. A motorboat, perhaps. Row the boat. I mean, you got too many oars. They're getting stuck in the motor. I mean, okay, you, we've all heard of a scheme, but imagine rowing the boat. I mean, it's, it's right there. You know, you're cranking my dick, bro. You don't have to. I mean, when, when it comes out that rowing the boat meant more than just some paddling, they're not even gophers don't have boats. So why did they start to rowing the boat? That's true. That's a great point. Should it be? No, he was a whole. He used that at Western Michigan. Yeah. Well, what's the Broncos? Yeah, the Broncos don't run. The Broncos don't row boats. I mean, if anything, we know they drive drunk. John L.A. taught us Roman soldiers, uh, row boats. That's a whole other kettle. Oh, what? Well, that, that we did learn they do that is for pleasure. Women are only for babies. Oh, a different rowing boat. I get you. All right, Minnesota. Um, yeah, no, I, uh, Colby. So, are we excited? Because I feel like historically we find a couple spots on the schedule where we like, uh, flacking the boys to be scrappy. I love them as an underdog. And I feel like everyone's writing them off. Uh, they bring in a new DC that comes over from JMU from a couple of years ago, and then Max Brosmer, who almost won the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, Walter Payton award in the FCS. He was a quarterback and, which is the Heisman at the, yeah, at the FCS. And, uh, they return a shit ton. And that defense and what they've done with that, uh, you know, a couple of years ago, they were a top 10 defense. I think that they could be very good this year. I lost some pieces though. I mean, the Giants drafted one on the second round at safety. Seemed important. Yeah. But, uh, I, I just think that, uh, they'll be better. Like, I love taking fleck as a dog. When they're projected to be great is one I like fade. So which quarterback is going to be the guy? Brosmer. Yeah. I think, uh, he's very experienced. Everyone else a freshman. It's got to be him. If he goes down there in trouble, well, they got rid of the Greek pellet gun. He's now at Rutgers floor is low. Uh, I also think that their style of ball though, cause they could probably like upset USC or something. You know what I mean? Like, like, they're good for an upset against somebody. You know what I mean? I maybe it's Penn State on November 23. I think they beat Penn State last time they played in, in many, I wish I liked more of their home spots. USC's probably the one that's on the, that's when they show out, right? But they start off North Carolina or North Carolina. Yeah. You wouldn't see it home. I, I think they, they beat North Carolina. Really? I do. North Carolina is just replacing a ton. Rhode Island Rams at home. Yeah. I think they'll be three and out. And then they did beat Iowa last year, but it was on some bullshit. You remember Cooper John returned that punt? Oh, God. Yes. And, and, uh, Kirk Francis, one like, that was, that was flex first. Now is it, is it, is it Cooper to Sean? Or do we call him to Jean? What does he go by? I don't know. I've heard, I've heard it. Uh, it's really, it's been an enjoyable part. Listen, a Philly sports song radio here. All the John, like every variable way you could pronounce that name I've heard. So it's completely, my, I have no idea how to pronounce a guy's name now. What they say in college to Sean? Yeah. Cooper to John. That's what I, I always thought, but you know, see John series from, uh, he's, isn't he from? It closes out tough for them. They have pen stated home at Wisconsin last two games. And before that at Rutgers at Illinois. Yeah. No, I, I agree. Like at, at Illinois, at Rutgers though, like I favor the other teams, but that you couldn't, it wouldn't shock me if Minnesota beat them. That's like a, that screams like 17 to 14 on both those games. Uh, I like them being three and oh though out the gate. I'll tell you that. And then I do think they're better than UCLA. Um, so that would be four wins there. I think they can get somebody, whether it's USC, whether it's, uh, whether it's a Penn State, there'll be five and then, uh, Maryland. So I got him, I got him like six to six, seven and five, something like that. It sounds like the town he grew up in, in Iowa is randomly populated by a number of French people historically. So John probably is right. Um, Gray poop, huh? You know, Justin Mark is a French. Oh, that, that, that is actually the furthest thing from the truth. You're a big outlet span. If a, if a man in France could grow a beard, like J Mark grows a beard. There are many French men out there. We, they, we, they wouldn't have needed us in World War two. That's a name. Uh, name me a Frenchman who's built his own RV from this, from the studs up. We need a, we need the SGPN wagon to be constructed. Colby, are you taking another over? I am. All right. So pretty good about it. Right now we have one, two, three, four, six and one in the unders are coming. I, I guess because I do think the, the floor of the PJ Fleck team is fairly high. Is it me? He always over achieves whether, when he was at Western Michigan, they have 15 starters back whenever you think they're going to suck. Yeah. They're, they're really good. Watch them win like nine games. Uh, watch them. They make the playoffs, but, uh, I mean, it's probably worth the bet with the juice being what it is. Well, they don't play Ohio state on the schedule. They don't play Oregon. I, you know, I think a lot of people think those are the top two teams in the big 10. They need to steal a road game though. I think that's what worries me. I'm going to need them to grab a road. Of course, you seven home games, you see a leg and there'll be 12 people of that game. They're going to go five, they're going to go five and two at home and they're going to need one road win. You're right. UCLA could be that one. Minnesota people are going to, oh, all the big 10 people are going to love the LA trips. PJ Fleck has gone over this number every year, uh, last year. No, there were six and seven. That didn't count. That was a bowl win. Yeah. Five and seven. Yeah. Five and seven. Don't worry folks. My sheet, uh, does not, uh, have a silly bowl. Yeah. So all right. Yeah, they can win six games. It's not going to be a lock, but it's a beautiful sheet under a great sheet. Under wait over. Yeah. I don't know what else to say. Um, damn it. I hate Minnesota for these minutes. I don't know what it was. Probably living with people from Minnesota for a while, but I, I'm always sympathetic to these fucking Minnesota teams. Nebraska. Oh no, this is a team I'm into this year, three and six in conference last year, five and seven overall. We got some optimism because the wind totals all the way up to seven and a half minus one on five to the over minus one 15 to the under 65 to one to win the conference. 300 to one to win the national championship. Is Nebraska back? No, uh, but the optimism is there because the schedule is there. They, they have a very favorable schedule, maybe the most favorable schedule in all of the big 10. They, uh, they just, they, they don't play Michigan who won the national championship. They don't, they don't play USC. They don't play Penn State. They don't now, they mentioned Washington, but I actually think you kind of want Washington on the schedule. So, um, uh, but, uh, yeah, I mean, look, it's a nice schedule. They play, they, they, they're, they're away games still could be tricky though. And to me, that's, and you start to, to me, the big thing is you're starting a freshman quarterback. I understand he was the number one recruit in the nation, but it's not often that the number one recruit just comes in and is just nasty. They do have that, uh, they were horrible on turnover differential last year, negative 17. That's usually a sign for positive regression, maybe 19 returning starters, but they've had in fairness. Nebraska has been building up regression for a number of years, special games, they find ways to lose close games. And you thought like, Oh, it was just a frosting. And then, uh, the special teams regression, you know, that's a football gods when they got rid of the option after going, after, after going nine and three, they're like, yeah, you know, it's not good enough. We want to be better. How's it been since? Where you had overall Colby had Matt role. How much? And how much did it cost for them to steal this kid from Georgia? Well, he's, his, uh, his dad played in Nebraska. I think there might have been some inside. Nice. Or his uncle. One of the two, I mean, it might have been his uncle. Um, but, uh, he only got a high school in Georgia. He's back. He bounced all around. I think he's originally from Arizona. He just went for one. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I mean, let's look at Matt role real quick, 2013, 2014 temple, AK first year, second year goes two and 10, then six and six, Baylor one and 11, second year, seven and six Nebraska, five and seven, you would think they're able to build on that if he continues a streak of being better in year two. It's seven and a half feels so very trendy pick though. I can tell you this. A lot of people love the Nebraska. Do you know who his Godfather is? No. Matthew Stafford. Really? Yeah. He was teammates. Wait, God daughter or God's son. God daughter. No, no, but the quarterback's Godfather is. Oh, the quarterback's God. Okay. So I thought you said Matt rule. Oh, no. Yeah. We were talking about the five star freshman five star who his dad played with Stafford on the line. And they flipped them from Georgia. He was originally going to Georgia or Ohio State. I'll go. I'll go under it. I mean, this to me, yeah, I'm on the under two. I think everyone's, you know, to me, you're still starting a freshman quarterback. I think Colorado is better than them right now. I think Illinois, they could lose that game that they will win at Purdue, I think. But Rutgers, I think is a dangerous game to know their, their home edge is good. But how about the road trips, too? At Ohio State at USC, at Iowa, I all have his losses. So that's three losses. So can you find two others? Yes, I do. I have Colorado as the fourth. What? And I have a what Colorado whooped their ass last year. Colorado is way better. Welcome to line and defensive line than last year. Colby is using a home or I'm not hearing great things about Colorado Ross. Who you listen to? Correct. Not you. Colby is a home. I try to stay objective. Colby is a homer when it comes to one team. I am a East Carolina and Colorado smashed that up. No, not not Colorado. He's, he likes to be. I locked up the under two years ago with Colorado when they lost all their damn players. What home they're not losing a home. I will at USC. I think they could lose to Colorado, Illinois and oh yeah, we're just going to agree to disagree. They're going to win all their home games, which means they just need a one road game. Dude, Nebraska will fuck up a wet dream. We just talked like there's something Matt rules a great college coach. I actually do think Rutgers is Matt rules a great college coach. You're being blown. I don't know about great. I think it's a very good conference. You want to maybe in the AAC created a very solid program, solid enough to be hired as a head coach and be granted. He went to now we know the owner is fucking psycho. But yeah, no, I like Matt rule. I'm bullish. I'll buy, I'll buy the expensive price. I certainly would, would maybe sprinkle a little on that. 65 to one. Who I like the 65 to one there, more than the 41. I wish they had a playoff price for Nebraska. I'll have you know that Colorado's won three straight against them. And those were some terrible Colorado teams. I'm out with this. I'm on the under Nebraska's seven and a half, but them to win the big 10. I think the big 10 is way more open. I don't want to run the big 12 episode, but I am not in on Colorado this year. Northwestern. Wow. Not a dirty car to be seen spotless. Five and four last year in conference. We need to get the car wash clap sound effect. The over the hold on. We need to do something right now. And I apologize. They overcame so much adversity. Breaking news. Hold on. I need to buy some time for a second. I'm going to read numbers. Don't worry. There are seven and five overall. And yet they sit here with this disrespectful win total of five and a half juiced heavily to the under minus two 10. Sean, that adjust all the way down to four and a half. What are we doing 20? 29,000 plus nine 29,000 for the conference and another 1000 to one to win it all. Josh sending you something currently. I got to be honest. Why they were supposed to be like last year was the year they would have cradered. Yeah, I guess there's two ways to look at it. One was last year they were supposed to fall apart. Believers like myself in the pro gram. I thought they were going to smash that over three and a half and they did. Let's, this is their home stadium this year and next year I believe. Oh, this is one of my favorite stories in college football right now. Is there home state? Dude, this is going to be have fun passing the bar. A pack 12 schools coming in there. Where are the wind? Dude, they have these makeshift stands coming in. It's like they're serious. I've been serious. It's one of my favorite stories. One of my favorite stories, but you know how crazy the wind is going to be right there. It's going to be must watch. Oh, this feels like you're definitely going to need like kicking. Like you're going to need to know home fields going to matter a lot. All right. Someone make a note what hammer all unders at Northwestern in the winter. I mean, I mean, maybe not right away. It's going to be windy as hell. Can we get a weather pat? Yeah, let's let's get a, I mean, first of all, is that just not going to have a home. So that's right on Lake Michigan. Yes, it is right there. I mean, dude, you're, you can, you're 10 feet from like you can run. You can theoretically run it out into the fucking water. You know what I mean? Like imagine if you're running that, remember that Bo Jackson clip, we're at the, at the kingdom back of the day, he keeps running and he keeps running. You do that. You're in the fucking, you're in the language. But where are the fans? They're adding some on the side. Well, I don't understand where the players have to stand somewhere. It's hilarious. We're going to have like little bleachers. They roll in. That's like a youth sports event. It's my favorite. One of my favorite stories of this. Okay. So, um, is the, is it a home edge? At now, I know from my, like I said, there's multiple stadiums being referenced in their schedule. Well, they have a couple of Wrigley. They have to it. Well, they play at Ryan Field. No, that is Ryan Field because that's that they destroyed Ryan Field. Then what is Larry and Sharon Martin Stadium? That's what I think you're, you're staring at right there. No, they call them two different things. Well, no, but Ryan Field doesn't exist anymore. Okay. So you think it's just the typo? Okay. So, uh, yes, you're right. They do play that game against Ohio state at Wrigley. They also play Illinois. They're so dumb because Ohio State's a finesse team. If they had just, yeah, that's where you, that's where you want to. They're so dumb. They're so dumb because what they're thinking is, hey, we can make money with Ohio State fans traveling. If they had just played at that crazy thing, Ohio State would be forced to run the ball the entire game and they're a fantastic way more money by beating Ohio State. I know. They're so stupid. But Penny wise, yeah. Who are Larry and Sharon Martin? I mean, did they not donate enough money? Eight hundred million dollars. They didn't get stands. No, that's not the new stadium. Oh, I'm saying like the new stadium that's coming. That's the practice facility. Okay. Lanny and Sharon Martin, they donated enough to have the, they're playing at the lacrosse soccer field. How about you lead with that next time? Not look at this cool stadium they built. No, it's not cool. It's cool for them. Sean. You hear any, he tried to slide one bias. They're playing their entire season on the soccer field. I'm going to say that. I'm going to call it the lacrosse field, right? Soccer field and the lacrosse field. What's our number again on this team? Five and a half. I'll ride the under in this one. Really? Yeah. Well, it's minus two, 10 tough, tough play. Duke seems to fuck them up every year, even though Duke's bringing in Manny Diaz. I like Northwestern. Um, any DS is a disaster as a head coach. Come on dude. You've seen this. He had a better, he has a better record than crystal ball at Miami. Oh, come on. Manny Diaz is, is a joke of a coach. Um, I think Miami, Ohio, they returned everybody. They won the Mac last year. Oh, that's their 14 starters back. I think that that that year last year rallied them. They're eating five last year. The problem is, is they have Michigan, Ohio state at Iowa, and they also have a homesteading with no people. No, I think that's going to work there in advantage. Are you kidding me? It could, but unfortunately, the Miami of Ohio, when Duke when I tell you why Illinois when here's how it helps. So the, instead of the vibe being, you know, college football, it's going to be like intramural Friday night under the under the lights. Now this Northwestern squad will be used to it. Also, almost undoubtedly there will be weird wind patterns. So hopefully they get a, I see already they have three, three night games at least. So that that's a positive. I think there's going to be interesting weather that potentially being understanding the field will help. Although they, you know, those probably send advanced scouts from Michigan or wherever to steal that kind of data. But what was that guy's name? Connor Stallions. What's he doing? It sounds like a male strip. Didn't get hired. I thought he got hired by someone. I mean, Boris, I think was joking around about hiring them. The chargers hire them. They're real. It's all should. Yeah. So you're going under? I am going over. They gave up. I mean, how many home games do they actually have? They don't even have, they have one, two, three, four, they have five home games. Okay. That just seems like you're really trying to fuck yourself. You have five home games, five, two. All right. So you split the games at Wrigley. You win your home games. You're at six. Yeah. They only need to get to six. The thing is, is last year they, they had you tap on the schedule, right? They won an overtime game against. I think what you said extends to a team that needs to be road warriors. They, they don't have a home. They're vagabons. And when they are at home, they're just a bit sleeping in a fucking tent on the beach, whatever that's. They were six and two and one score games and one, they beat Howard by three last year, dude. This team is not, all right. I forgot. I forgot. I, the primary. Are we still kind of wins is under. Colby seems like this, this generation shot. He's going to Costa Rica for his birthday. He's going to try out the flying squirrel. Colby finished. Wow. Colby finished strong with a couple of unders there. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Time for the luck, luck and future Kramer. What do you got for the folks? Well, I think based on our, our, us talking it out, I do, I think we're going to have to lock up Iowa. Yeah. I would say coming into the, this episode, knowing we were talking about all these shitty teams, that was obvious. And I think I just want to take a stab at this, this Michigan state team going over that number and then for the, for the dog or the long shot, whatever, whatever we're doing here, I think it's just another Iowa play on them to make the playoff, right? Seven on one. Yeah. I like that. I mean, on that, put there for me. There wasn't a ton of stuff in this one where I'd say it's even interesting. Well, like I'm joking, but I'm not joking when I say it's the most boring this conference, like it really is boring. It's weird that the alphabet, like sorting it alphabetically created a world where Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, UCLA, USC, Washington are all on one side. Well, we got the shooting teams. Well, it's, it's, it's, it's the one conference that I feel like, you know what? This is, this is the potato. Nothing sexy about a potato. Love potatoes, though. I'm on Iowa over seven and a half. Nice. I also like Northwestern over five and a half. I like no one believing them. I like their funky stadium. This is everything we like about college football and Kobe's turning a blind eye to it. You don't put the broomstick in the motor. And then I wouldn't make the playoffs, although I put me for I would have made the playoffs. Honestly, even though I'm on there under the Nebraska 65, I want to know when the big 10 is kind of fun, but just because maybe Matt rule does really get it all right. So Colby, you got, I would have made the playoffs at seven to one. One of your favorite lock. I will over that's insulting to me. And then we're going to lock the over on Minnesota. Oh, the gophers. Hey, how many overs did you end up with Sean? I have four, two, three, four, five. So five overs, four six overs, three under should have locked up and under didn't get around to it. Hey, we got a college football conference previews coming at you. Make sure you go back and check out all of our fantasy football previews as well. And of course, check out Colby, Dan, all 134 FBS team football previews. We got big 10 football conference, part two coming up. Stay tuned. Thank you for participating in the sports game in podcast for sports. Give him a packet of some Sean second of the money green. He's Ryan flying squirrels Kramer, let it ride.
The guys (@GamblingPodcast) continue their NCAA Football Conference Previews with the Big Ten Conference. They’re joined by Colby Dant (@TheColbyD) from The College Football Experience as they give their college football betting preview for the Big Ten conference including Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan and more. We preview college football team win totals for the Big Ten teams as well as player props, futures and more. The guys break down the new college football playoff format as well as the new conference format in the Big Ten.
