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Before I keep going to talk about the AFC East, I've got to introduce my co-host on the pod and in life. You can find her on the exit. The Mer, Mer, Mer, Mer. How are you doing today? I do agree. It's having the fact that we're just a giant cluster over here. It was a little bit of a cluster. Let me tell you what, first, as far as a cluster, I'm trying to get this tweeted out and all that good stuff, but I was making our old fashions. I somehow managed to spill bitters all over the floor. Not sure how that happened. Then I was getting a little cherry in there, and I swear, I just held it over your glass and did this, and it bounced off the room, your glass, bounced off the counter, and then onto the floor. No idea how any of that happened. I got into the disposal. I cleaned up the mess. Do not worry. No, no. [LAUGHTER] I went, good enough for a drink. I probably would have if it was mine. I'm supposed to make your old fashions today. I just ran out of time to do it. And see, your punishment is a floor cherry. I don't see it. Like if there's sediment in here, because we need a vacuum. I didn't put that cherry in there. It is in the disposal. Okay. I promise you. I've had time to do floors. I know how picky you are, so it's okay. I wouldn't do that to you. Yeah, we're going to be talking the AFC East today, and NASCAR gambling podcast, who is going to be our guest today. Oh, you're just going to spoil our alert. Spoiler alert. We're going to-- You can announce it differently, but they will be the guest, says Go Patriots and Huskers Gross. I should have just haked to it on your cherry, and called it "Good as New," says Jamie. "Hawk to it." But yeah, we're-- I'm kind of nervous to drink this. I haven't heard it yet. I did not. I swear. If I have to have it here in my drink, oh my god. I wouldn't do that to you. Why don't you tell them what we're talking about today before you get too carried away? It's our six. Six? Yeah. Yeah. Eight division previews. I feel like we say that we've said this on every single one, but we're doing these a little different this year, so if you haven't tuned in already to us as we're doing these division previews, we're going to touch on both ADP, which for those of you who need to know what that is, average draft position, and AAV or average auction value. And we're bringing you some best bets at the end of the show. Yeah. And while we're doing these division previews, we're trying to have on as many guests as we can just to get some good conversations going. Yeah. And we have one today. You do have a special guest today. You already hinted to the next third game link podcast. Yes. We didn't say which one though. There's two co-hosts. We're going to keep it a secret, but he's already gotten some jabs in at me via tech. To be fair, to be fair, shout out to letter Kenny if you all watch that. We kind of have a jab at him. Almost every podcast. I know because and who I got one. Yeah. It's coming. Okay. Who are we covering? Oh, yeah. We got the bills, the dolphins. No, we're covering that. Oh, sorry. I think we already said that. Yes, the AFC East, which is the bills, the dolphins, the jets and the Patriots. Before we bring him on to defend himself, because he'll at least get to defend himself this week, what are we drinking today? We are drinking keepers heart finished in, is there Irish American finished in orange cherry casks? Yes. They're orange cherry barrels. Yeah. We were at the distillery over the last, over this last weekend. We're almost already to another weekend, which this week has gone by so fast. But we did a podcast up in Minneapolis, Saturday, after our visit to the distillery, we did go back for dinner, but after we did our tour, our whiskey blending, our cocktail at the bar, from our blended whiskey that we blended ourselves. We checked out their gift shop and they have some serious swag. They do. I'm wearing some right now. You are. Keepers heart. Look at that. I had it backwards just so you could read it. They have bottles of all of their whiskey in there and we can't get everything that they have up there where we are. No. If you have a new whiskey, that is what we're drinking today, we found out something we never knew before that if you're debating whiskeys in their gift shop, they will just open up behind the counter and they just open a door and there's bottles of open whiskey and you can try everything. Yeah. I highly recommend if you're at the gift shop, you go, hmm, is that any good? Yeah. And then they'll be like, do you want to try it? We were debating like between, did we need to get another bottle of this? Yes, we do. Do we want this? Do we want to try this? Well, they have another new one finished in Angelica. And yes. Yep. We did not walk away with that one. We tried it. But Minnesota liquor laws for distilleries. Yes. It's stupid. It's hard to get around those. Yeah. It's not their fault. It's actually the distributors fault. They don't want people getting it directly from the distillery. They want you to go to the store where the distributors can make some profit off of it. So they limit it to 750 milliliters per guest. Per day. Per day. Now. No, there are laws and they abide by that. There are laws that I was going to say now they do have smaller bottles, which you can see behind Miranda that are 375. So you can get two of those, which we got the maple in the smaller one finished in maple barrels. But anyways, we'll talk a little bit more about keepers heart and a little bit. But obviously you're listening to old-fashioned football podcast. Make sure you go check out the sports gambling podcast. If they've started their top 10 fantasy football previews, the quarterbacks and tight ends episodes are already live. I have no idea why Sean has Chico Ziam, a conquo on there, but not Kyle Pitts. I don't understand it and I have given him crap for it already. It's never too early though to start drafting for the national football league. I can't do a Chris Berman voice. I'll work on that for next time. Nick is saying Mer is your mic on Mer is kind of low and hard to hear. Let me just do a little configuring here. Oh, we tested everything before, but we are a cluster. I said we're a cluster today. All right. Let me know if that's better. Everybody. Cody says yes. Oh, my gosh. I mean, our guest says yes. We already said it was Cody. We said, sorry, Cody. Oh, right. Yes. Uh, do you want to bring him on or you want me to bring him on? Um, I'll bring him on. You bring him on. I'm a little like taken aback. I just talked to a shit ton and everybody probably couldn't hear me. That's fine. It's it is what it is. Our guest is a Patriots fan. Hence why we brought him in. He is also even worse, a Husker fan. Um, I just have to say that because of the Iowa Nebraska rivalry and, uh, obviously Iowa corn is better than Nebraska's, but anyways, he, uh, co-host the NASCAR gambling podcast, the F1 gambling podcast, he writes literally on every sport you could think of. I mean cycling lacrosse, uh, he's, he's just got a bunch of stuff that he writes on. And it's all great. And, uh, I mean, just to ask him how his cycling article did a lot of people interested in that and getting his input, but without further ado, we've got to bring in Mr. Cody Z. Cody, how you doing today? Hello friends. How are you with your, uh, your Rex Burke head? I do. Husker and Patriot Rex, by the way, I have also a bottle of keeper's heart, AKA the trophy from the old football, uh, listen, that last year doesn't look like there's much gone. It's so pretty. How am I supposed to? I got to buy a different one, because I'm going to keep this one. It's my trophy to remind me that I kicked you guys ass. So, um, yeah, I do appreciate the invitation to come on here every week. I tune into this show and, uh, every week, I think to myself, self, why do you listen to these guys? Cause every week, sorry, Cody, say something about Nebraska, sorry, Cody, say something about the Patriots. Sorry, Cody. So I came on here to defend myself, tell you about how the Patriots are winning the Super World this year. So, uh, here we go. By the way, too, on the cherry thing, five second rule, Justin, it's perfectly fine that you put the cherry in there. I know you told me not to tell murder that you don't tell. I haven't taken a drink yet. I'm, I'm nervous. I saw you look at the dog hair earlier. You guys, you don't understand if you've ever had a meal with Miranda, she highly inspects her food anyways, like she's always like pulling stuff apart, looking at it, making sure there's not in funky. It's one of the first things my parents noticed about you actually was I had such a problem. Yeah. I guess I'm a little OCD that way a little, we growing up with pets and like we have, we have a dog in a cat, there's going to be dog hair and it's fine. You just have that in my food. It can't be my food. It can't be. I'm sleeping. You ingest it. 100 percent. You don't notice it. It don't make a difference. Exactly. Nick pointing out in the chat that you don't write on soccer, not yet, just because I haven't asked you to yet. I didn't write on cycling until I do now. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Jamie used to be a Patriots fan when Baltimore stole the Browns. So it used to be. You should have. Sorry, Jamie. You should have stuck with that. Well, for a while, it's probably a good time to leave now, maybe not anymore, but Nick pointing out how you enjoy your chips and queso is very interesting. That's not OCD, though. That's just, let's ask Cody's opinion on this, Cody. Would you prefer to dip your chip in queso and you get that nice crunch in the queso taste or would you like it to sit in there until it's soggy? What? No, Miranda. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yes. No, not soggy. Queso is literally the greatest creation in the history of the world. It is. You ruin it? No, I just, it takes a bath in the case, though, it's in there for a couple of minutes. Don't say you used to be my favorite host on the show, but Dustin is retaking first place. So you're going to have to earn that back. Oh my gosh. I can enjoy. There's no wrong way to drink bourbon. There's no wrong way to eat. Can we bet on that, Jamie? Because I bet I could talk to bosses and to let me ride on the sport of pillow fighting of. I think I think you need a slap bet right up. You know, the sport where they slap the shit out of each other, which is always interesting to watch. I don't know if I can watch that though, because it's like, man, it just makes me cringe every time I see a video. I know. Like their face is bruised. Sometimes they're bleeding. They have the swelling under the eye and they're sitting there like, go ahead, hit me again. It's pretty good. It's nonsense and whiskey. Can I just try me in saying soggy chips is gross. No, I see that. Can I defend myself a little bit? It's not like there is no defense. You can't. It's not a wet chip. Yes, it is. Yes. It's soggy. It's what? No. No, it's soft. It's soft. It's so good. It's no longer crunchy. It's no longer crunchy. If it's not crunchy, then it's not hard, but it's not soggy. That sounds gross. Soggy is gross. It's soaked with cheese. Yes. And when it's soaked with cheese and it's crunchy, that's when it's delicious. When you pick a chip up, it should be like this. Years go like that's not okay. You guys are killing me. Why did we get honest? Nick. Nick. Thank you. I'm glad Nick. It's easy to blame Nick. Should we jump right into quarterbacks? Can we? We can. Yeah, we can jump. I love my chips in case though. Why would you all say? Because I still enjoy it. Imagine how much more you would love them if you hate them correctly. No, your mind would probably be blown. Facts. Actually, real quick, before we jump into that, just so we hit our ad read mark, why don't you tell them a little bit underdog fantasy, which we did a live draft on our podcast last Saturday? We did. So we are brought to you by underdog fantasy. When pick eight is now live, you can create entries with up to eight picks and underdog will automatically double flex entries so you can miss up to two picks and still win your entry. With even more picks to make and extra ways to win, the excitement is higher than ever and the best part is that you can win up to 325 times your original amount. You can now use specials and boosts on all flex entries, so don't miss your chance to try it out before it's gone. Plus if you're already a user, deposit between now and UFC 303 for a 10% bonus cash. 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We even have a deal with football contest proxy.com to save you $50 of promo code SGP. Don't have a trip booked for Las Vegas yet before football. Don't worry. The ultimate contest weekend is a great time to go out, go out there, hang out with Ryan and Sean and enjoy some of the open bar events. I love me and open bar at the greatest sports book in the world. August 22nd through the 24th. And just to shout out to that bar, the downstairs bar, the steakhouse, they do have Iowa legendary Raya special barrel pick upstairs bar does not yet, but hopefully they get it soon. Yeah. Should we jump? We had them on the show a while back. Yes. Really interesting history there. They use a raccoon. They used to anyways. They don't know. They used a raccoon penis bone to drip the spirit out of the still because back then they could not get the jug under their still and they needed something that would drip it in there instead of just spill it all over the floor. And that's what they found was like the perfect thing for it. I want to know like who just who's like, what can we use? Well, that's not going to work. You look at the raccoon and you like make eye contact with it and it just like tucks its head down and it's like, Oh, no, no, please, no, and then even better, I just pulled it out of his pocket. I got this raccoon. Oh, yeah. Why do you have that? It works though, apparently, yeah. Real quick before we jump into quarterbacks, Nick would like to know how you became a New England Patriots fan. Yes. So I was I was a little kid at the beginning of the Tom Brady era. My dad's not really into into football, not really a big sports guy. So I love football. The first Super Bowl I remember watching is the Patriots and Rams back in the day. And we had to pick a team as we sat down to watch it. My mom loved Boston. So we're like, all right, we're going for the Patriots. They obviously win. It was a pretty nice way to hook me in. And there was a lot of waiting after that. So I'm a Husker fan that's been good because they don't win. So. Well, now the Patriots don't win either. Oh, thanks. That's okay. Because the Huskers are going to start winning. See? All of life, as they said, on Indiana Jones, which we've been watching at our theater for Wayback Wednesdays, you chose wisely like a good year's for you. Yeah, that worked out pretty, pretty nicely for me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was that Super Bowl and not like, you know, I could have been like the Patriots Panthers long and I picked the Panthers and that would have been bad. Yeah. I mean, Miranda's story is similar to the fact that her dad was not huge into sports. Her family was. They were packer fans. So it's like a, you never really watched it until she met me and I'm diehard bears fan. Unfortunately, she's not seen a lot of winning, but. Well, they were good at one time. I learned like so much hope at the beginning and you think like back, I, at least like, you know, I came in when Erlocker was still there and Devin Hester. Yeah. And now it's, I don't know, you keep hope, but you have lower expectations. I remember our first apartment watching that NFC North game or not NFC North game. Sorry. The NFC championship game between us and the Packers and then Cutler got hurt and Caleb Haney comes in and he actually scores a touchdown and we're like jumping on the couch, but then he throws a pick to BJ Raji and he returns it for a touchdown and all hope was lost. I specifically remember that in our first apartment. Remember that yellow couch that I got from Goodwill or did I get it from Goodwill? You did. I know. That was a good one. Set it out. They never know with me. It was a bit of a dumpster diver. Oh my gosh. No, that doesn't surprise me. Yeah. I did at one point have a lawn mower in my dorm after I picked it up off the curb because somebody just said it out there and I wanted to take it apart. So, you know, all right, Miranda, you lead us off with the quarterback. Start with the top guy. In my opinion. Josh Allen. Yeah. We're going straight to Drake May. Weird. Oh no. Josh Allen. Um, last season he finished with 410 point six fantasy points. He had eight top five finishes. His current ADP is QB one with an AAV of $39 and last year he finishes QB one. So I don't think you can really argue that you can't put Drake May into that. Um, I guess he can be stuck and that's fine. Do you. So how do you want to do this? Just going to talk about Josh Allen or do you want to keep going through? Uh, yeah. Let's talk about Josh Allen. All right. Um. Do you want me to kick it off? Do you have any thoughts on it? Well, there's no stuff on digs. There is no digs. The drama has left the building. The drama. That's how I feel about that. Um, I don't know, Cody, do you have thoughts before we give? Yeah. Well, I've fantasy wise, honestly, that digs leaving might be good for Alan. I think he's going to run the ball more, um, and I mean, I hate the bills. And I'm glad that they never win and they will never win, which is wonderful, but Josh Allen's really fucking good. I mean, there's no denying that. And he's great, great. A fantasy. I mean, if you want to, you have to spend up obviously you have to pick him early in, you know, you know, draftingly, you got to spend up in, in auction, but you're pretty secure in the fact that every week you're going to have a really good week from Josh Allen. So there's not really an argument to be made against him. He's very good. Uh, the wide receiver room, obviously, there's a lot of question marks, uh, there now with digs being gone, but I think that he'll figure it out. They'll be fine. And I think he just runs the ball more, which in fantasy is generally a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Um, I, I'm a big key on Coleman fan. If you've listened to us, you know, I'm a big fan of him, and not just because of his advice on coat sales and how to get your winter codes and when to get them. Um, so I, I think they'll be all right with that. They still have Khalil Shakir too, who was there last year or so. And they've heard a Samuel. Yeah. They got Curtis Samuel, who I think is going to be really good in the slot. Yeah. Samuel's definitely, uh, like him a lot this year for fantasy. Yeah. And he's gone. I mean, nobody's drafted. All these receivers we'll talk about in a little bit, but in auction, they're all going for an AAV of a dollar. So I mean, you're getting Josh Allen throwing to you. I think you, you want to pick up this, you want to like not to jump too far ahead, obviously, like tight, tight, and wise, they have two pretty good tight ends. Can Kade, obviously being a young guy, but even Knox is a solid guy when he's out there on the field and in a good receiver, I think you'll probably just use those more. Yeah. I don't really foresee the bills off and skipping too much of a beat and especially from Allen. Right. I agree. My, my only concern is, and this is anytime you're getting the guy that's the top in their position, ADP wise, is you're obviously drafting them at their ceiling. You're hoping that they can repeat, they can be the number one again. Sometimes I would rather wait and get a guy that's the fourth or fifth that could jump to that number one spot. That's my only concern because if you take that quarterback, like Drake may, if you take the top quarterback, I mean, there's a little room for error until he's not the top quarterback, if that makes sense. Anyways, next. Let's talk about Tua. Tua. I'm mad at you for your comments about him a couple of weeks ago. I was inappropriate. What did you just do? It's when he had his concussion and his fingers did that. Oh my God. No, it was terrible. I agree. Wow. Why would you marry this man, Miranda? I can't believe it. Oh my God. I can't believe it. When I think Tua, that's what comes to my mind. I thought you were making some like, or like at me, like, because I managed to do it. As much worse than that. It was much worse. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about Tua. This makes the dog hair a cherry. That looks so bad. All right. Well, I, you left me speechless here to a he brought in not quite the not even close to the four hundred and ten points that Josh Allen brought in last season, but he did bring in two hundred and eighty four point four points. He had three top five finishes. His current ADP is QB 13 with an AAV of two dollars. And last year, he finished at QB 9. I think as always, like the biggest question around him for me is his health, but you suck. Exactly. Stop it. That is not okay. No. I mean, that is a big concern. He's had the concussions. He managed to stay healthy, like, you know, with his. He showed up skinnier at OTAs though. And I feel like if you're trying to prevent your noggin from being rung, you don't want to get skinnier. But that's just my opinion. Anyways, give anything else before I was just going to say, you know, Mike, McDaniel has him performing just at a great level. Yeah, no, better than I ever thought to a would be. I will say that. Cody, what are your thoughts on to it is two dollars actually for his auction value in a in a standard league, not a super flexing it still, though, like, that's great. He led the league in passing yards last season. So yeah, which speaks to him being there and the injury thing, like, I struggle with the fact that like people are, are injury prone, quote unquote, because yeah, some people are, but injuries are so just unpredictable and random for the most part, like some guys play their whole career and only get hurt once or twice. Some guys get hurt more, but then Christian McCaffrey, like, is he injury prone? Sure. So if you didn't draft in the last two years, well, sucks for you because look how well that worked out, right? So I think you're getting them pretty cheap here for a guy that has such a high ceiling. I mean, that offense is going to be prolific. We know that and they've got good running backs that could take some stuff away, but we've got Tyree kill, you got Jalen wattle, both those guys just got paid. They're both happy. They're going to show up and play to us proven to be pretty good leading the league in passing yards last season. I mean, obviously is a pretty good sign and that offense just like it's, it's a really good offense and it's not going to slow down. They like to move quickly. They like to move the ball. So yeah, I think that you're getting pretty, pretty cheap for a guy that has such a high ceiling kind of the, you know, the opposite of, of Alan, you're drafting or, or bidding on him here on the low end of things when he has a very high ceiling, you know, and could finish a lot better. So I do like to, yeah, I 100% agree. Real quick, just mom saying, Hey, it's our friend, the Zebra, aka mom, Mark, hello. Now at $2, that's like, that seems like a steal for to a, because he has Tyree kill and Jalen wattle. Like he has it's and Odell Beckham, Jr. Now if you think that's a asset, now if you can, if you can draft him and then trade him in the next fortune and get Lamar Jackson to return, I would highly suggest that you do that. Cause that works. Jamie, good seeing you. We'll see you next time. Thank you for joining us. Finish and up work. Nobody likes working. Um, yeah, no, I, I think two as a seal at $2. I mean, obviously two years in a row, a 1,700 yard receiver that we'll, we'll talk about spoiler alert. It's Tyree kill. I don't think he's going to take a step back necessarily. So I, I do like it. I mean, you never, you go into fantasy football thinking your guys are going to be healthy the whole year. If they get injured, they get injured, you alter your plan then. See, I don't think you can play on the fact that, hey, he could get injured and $2 is, is a hell of a deal. So let's talk about, if he does get hurt, you're out $2, like, right? Yeah, exactly. Let's talk about the disgusting quarterback in the league. Not Drake. Not Drake. Um, Aaron Rodgers, sorry, sorry, Brandon, Brandon Spencer, the Jets fan. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers. Last season. Let's talk about the points he finished at last season, whopping zero. He lasted 45 seconds. So that's, oh, that's incredible on some people, not just, all right. Now, yeah, no top five finishes, um, we just, nothing, he did nothing last season, but his current ADP is QB 20 with an A, V of a dollar. Is he going to be fantasy? But my biggest question, is he going to be fantasy relevant again? Like, is he going to do something? My biggest is, can he stay healthy? He's old now. Um, and is he going to be vice president? How old is he though? Like is it? Well, yeah. So the vice president thing is probably the, the biggest problem, um, but if he's doing that, he might be slightly distracted. I don't know. He's 40. Yeah, that's old. He's older than me. Is it though? Like, I don't know for like, yeah, used to be old. Okay. You're now. Tom Brady. Not everybody is Tom Brady. Tom Brady. The youth. Yeah. But this is there. This is Aaron Rogers, not Jay Cutler, or you know what I mean? Whoa. Whoa. Sorry. Um, I do. I mute Cody. I'm on some, another retreat right now, too. I do believe he's on a dark history or I just walk over treats on one of those. It's ayahuasca. Justin. Jeez. ayahuasca. He's driving nuts when you pronounce that. There's one other thing too. Oh, I got to think of what it is. Every time you say it. Oh, it's Rashad. Why? His name is Rashad. You say, "Rachad." I'm like... "Rachad." I was... He's got a Ph in his name. Stop. Let's see other... But anyway, I remember another one he doesn't like how I pronounce it. What's the other name? I can't remember. I don't know. I don't know what to think about it. But anyway, back to Aaron Rogers. Yes. Where... I mean, like, again, this is a very cheap price you're getting in, man. If you want to roll the dice, like I'm not going to say not to, because we've seen what Aaron Rogers can be before. It's the Jets. They're seemingly cursed for a long time, right? And he only lasted for a second or 45 seconds last year, so... I don't know. I probably won't have a ton of Aaron Rogers, but I don't hate it. I mean, there's maybe some upside there, potentially, but I think there's so many other people that I would rather take for the upside that I'm probably just going to leave Rogers alone. He's going to take him in a super... Well, in super flex, you have to have as many quarterbacks as you can. So yeah, if he's there, and I mean, I would not be opposed. I'm not avoiding him by any means, especially with the price you're going to get him at. He's somebody we're looking at. Maybe somebody you can get cheaper that, hey, he's your third quarterback, and, you know, if you need him a bi-week or somebody gets hurt, you can pop him in there and he might be decent for you. But I don't have, like, super high expectations for others. The only time I'm drafting him is, I mean, aside from a super flex where if he's there, you got to take him. But best ball drafts, it seems like he has dropped quite low. So in the last five, six rounds, if you haven't gone heavy on quarterback, it's like, yeah, Aaron Rogers could win you some weeks. I mean, he could pull in some good points. Another great thing about Nebraska, we can do best ball drafts here, Rob, or Rob. Do I call you Rod? Jeez. I'm so used to doing podcast with Rod, but... It's a good thing, but yeah, we can do best ball drafts whenever we want. I'm on the clock in six picks, actually, so... What do you mean we mean? You know what? I'm on the clock soon too, because you can do slow drafts in Iowa, as long as you start them in another state. I'm going to start with one of them, Rob, and Minneapolis. Yes. I started a couple of the, I don't remember what they're calling the $7 draft, but they had a $7 one. I jumped in a couple of those. Is that the poodle? It might be the poodle. I got it. They've had the poodle, the chihuahua, I mean, they've got those little dogs in there. I've been doing all of them. Yeah. I agree with my mother here. Smoke and Jay is still awesome, big, big fan there. I don't think A-Rod going to put up huge fantasy numbers, but Jets winning the division. Now that's a spicy take. The Patriots are winning the division, so... Sports nonsense and whiskey needs to take a drink of a spicy rye whiskey with a lot of spice in it, because that's a spicy. The Jets aren't, like, they're not even a good number to win the division, like not even worth betting on. They're over there. Yeah, they're the second favorite. Plus one agent. Speaking of division winners real quick, sports. You have a podcast.com. I did pick every division winner. Well, I picked the best bet for every division, not necessarily the division winner, but hard to bet on the Chiefs of like minus 250. So obviously you pick somebody else that's got some value there, but yeah, yeah, not great odds for wanting to bet on the Jets for sure. Yeah, I was looking at that, because we're going to get to our best bets, and I don't understand the Dolphins being lower or higher odds, I guess, plus 200 versus the plus 190. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, just a plus 190. Yeah, Dolphins are the way to go, for sure, which we'll talk about later, but well, let's talk about your quarterback. How did you say? Let's circle back to quarterback. Yeah. Ah, Jacobi Brissette time. Oh, oh. Well, do you think you can start a job? Well, I mean, we're talking about Drake May. Oh, yeah. I know. We should talk about Drake. Nevermind. Go ahead. You talk about Jacobi. Well, if you look at the betting odds, Jacobi Brissette is the heavy favorite. He's like minus 260 to be the week one starter. May is minus or plus 200 to be the week one starter. So I'll let you set up the Drake May before I get into all my thoughts. Sorry. Okay. The jump on here. I didn't mean to jump on your job there, Miranda. Well, I'm just going to say, Meg is currently going at an 80 P F QB 32, AAV of a dollar. Well, then I was really, that's all I'm going to say about him because I was going to get it over to you. I was just jealous. Yeah. I mean, you see the next Josh Allen or, and this, these are not my words. These are not my words. I've seen Reels doing this. Is he the next Jack Wilson? Well, let's hope it's the first part and not the second part, right? But so I do think that there's a pretty strong chance that Jacobi Brissette starts the season as the starter. But I think that Drake May is worth a stash more so if you can get him in dynasty, I really, really like getting him in dynasty because I think that he's a multi year project like a Josh Allen was. I mean, Allen was kind of so, so the first couple of years before he really broke out and then he turned into the Josh Allen that we have now. I think that Drake may has Josh Allen type upside. I'm not going to say that he's going to be Josh Allen. Of course, I think that he's very, he needs a lot of work still, right? He's not just ready to jump in day one and into the reigns. He's not Caleb Williams could lead the Bears to the Super Bowl this year. We're not, we're not quite there on Drake, but I think that he's got the potential to be really good, especially for fantasy at 32 for the quarterback being drafted at $1. He's worth a stash on your bench and you kind of hope that, you know, he gets in or you have a looks like Brissette is going to start the season. Maybe you kind of keep an eye on it in a couple of weeks in, try to pick him up before he gets named the starter because once he comes in and he starts to play, he's got like, I don't think people realize his rushing ability is really good. That's a lot of upside for fantasy and I think he'll perform well. But the Patriots, we'll get into the receiver talk obviously later and they don't have like a stud receiver, but they're starting to build a pretty decent room of some guys that have some potential that I like. You've got like Hunter Henry there, Stevenson obviously is coming back. So the offense isn't going to be horrible. And I think that Drake may has upside for sure, especially for the price you're getting in that. I mean, you're coming in with no expectations. The 32nd quarterback draft, there's only 32 teams in the league, right? So he's at the very end of that. He's only a dollar. But I think there is definitely some upside there best ball love getting him late and best ball because if he doesn't start right away, but he comes in later ends up having some boom games later in the season when he kind of blooms for you. That's exactly what you're looking for there hitting big. So I love that. But yeah, I'm not, not obviously going to say he's the next coming yet, but I think there's a lot of potential there, especially more long term. You know, a really good friend of ours who watches a lot of college football. He's a big Georgia fan, but watches a lot of college football. Before the draft, when I was asking him like, I, it looks like the bears are getting Caleb Williams. What are your thoughts? He said that he thinks Drake may will have a better career overall than Caleb Williams will. So take that. I think he's got like, I think he has the higher ceiling long term. He also has the lower floor, of course. Yeah. You know, it's the risk reward type of thing, but yeah, long term, I mean, he really could be a Josh Allen type and that's, that's what I'm hoping for sure. For sure. Yeah. I mean, and if that's true, it'll really make the division pretty interesting with two of playing well, Josh Allen, obviously being Josh Allen and then yeah, Drake may and who knows what the jets are going to do before we talk about running back. I've been a few years, right. That seems to be the pattern. Before we talk about running backs, one receivers and tight ends, which we are going to have to roll through a little quicker. Let's talk about rhythm. If you're betting on player props and you need to download rhythm, rhythm is the go to sports betting tool that transforms complex data into actual insights, empowering betters with smarter data driven decisions. Unlike other platforms, rhythm combines advanced predictive analytics with an intuitive user experience, making both easy and enjoyable betting rhythms, predictive models were born from the brains of MIT data scientists and quants with over three years of data that help help you drive the better AI back betting decisions. Now I took quantitative decision making. I imagine that's the stepping zone to being a quant and it was difficult. I took it twice. It was difficult. I did not take it four times as Miranda is aiming towards me. It was twice. I took the regular one and then I took the adult version at the night class where the teacher goes, I'm not going to make you memorize formulas. You'll have a calculator for that. But I bet these quants have it memorized. Rhythm projections have been red hot for W. M. B. A. Go Caitlin Clark and golf claim your seven day free trial today by going to sportscomlinpodcast.com/rhythm that sportscomlinpodcast.com/RITHMM. I don't want to take real less too much. I swear you took it three times. I think it was. I thought you took the normal version twice and then you did the you send it for the adult model. We don't need to get into my college record. That was a little derailed by Halo. There were a lot of times when it turned off fair enough. It was wild turkey. Thank you very much. But that wild turkey one on one got me. There were a lot of times though I was headed to class. I had my backpack on going down the stairs at the fraternity and my best friend Paul goes, hey, you want to play Halo? It's like, fuck yeah. Okay. Drop the backpack. I don't need this class. It's fine. But then I'm at Miranda and miraculously got good grades. So it was I was like, well, she's not going to want to date a slack. So anyways, let's talk about these running backs. Let's go on the same order of teams. Oh, sorry. Great mindset. I guess. It's the best for last. I get it. It's cool. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. We've done that with our guests. We brought on the show. We saved their team. Hang on. Sorry. Hang on. Sorry. Let's jump real quick to quarterback's top quarterback and best value. Top has got to be Josh. Josh Allen. Best value. I think it's too. Yes. I agree with that. You agree? All right. That was easy. All right. That was easy. Um, let's talk about James Cook. He finished the season of 210 fantasy points. That's averaging like 12.4 points a game. He had two. Sorry. He had two top five finishes. I talk with my hands. I try to keep them down. I just, okay. I'm animated. Anyway. Um, he's going currently at an ADP of RB 14 with an AV of $28. And last year, he was RB 11. So we're taking him three spots back right now. Um, I guess what I was just going to say, I don't really feel like, you know, just a lot of changes, except they did draft, um, reday this. Yeah. The Kentucky kid. So I don't know if he's going to eat into the workload a whole lot. Um, James Cook just seems to be relevant each year. And bills running backs in general do like I was always out on Devin Singletary, but it always seemed like he did okay, uh, for the bills and same with James Cook. It's like, well, I'm not going to draft him, but, um, yeah. So I don't know, Cody, what are your thoughts on James Cook? Are you, are you drafting him? Are you a fan? Yeah. Wow. Not a fan cause he plays for the bills, but, uh, fantasy wise, I am in on him. Um, I think that lack of, you know, stud wide receivers or did with digs kind of going out of town, that could help cook. He's probably going to get some more dump off stuff. Maybe they try and run the ball more, not only with Allen, but with cook as well. I think that he's kind of established himself as the guy there. So, uh, yeah, for being, uh, you know, running back 11 last season and you're getting him at 14 this year or $28. I think there's pretty good deal on, on cooking. I kind of expect him to keep the same pace that he had last year. Yeah. I like Ray Davis a lot. I think he may take a touchdown or two away. Is that the only other running back that they have? Like, cause I, I, yeah, not especially like it's all going to be James Cook, I think. I don't. Yeah. I mean, or Josh Allen, that's right, but Josh Allen last year and James Cook still did all right. Yeah. Uh, finished RB 11. So yeah. Um, let's talk about the dolphins who I feel have a really crowded back room back. Yeah. Um, I'm going to be some data data data data, no data on her, he monster in Devon, a Chan, a Chan. I said a tan. Right? I always want to say a chain, but with most of it, he brought in 255.2 fantasy points last season. That's averaging around like 17 points a game. He had four top five finishes. This current ADP is RB 30 and he's going at an AV of $15. And last year he was RB two. Yes. Yeah. It's like, did I? Yeah. Are we two? And it, like I said, it's crowded back room, most are a Chan. They drafted Jalen right. They still have Jeff Wilson. But I still don't. Why is he dropping? Yeah. 28 spots. Um, yeah, he's a little bit older. Yeah. He was a little bit prone, but he did fine last year. I think they probably want to get a Chan more involved. Maybe get Jalen right more involved. But if most, most of it performs like he did last year, it's going to be hard to keep him up field. Cody, how do you feel about Raheem? Mostard. Oh, man, I'm, I'm really torn on this backfield. I think that you're getting a pretty good deal on, on mostard. I mean, he was the running back to last year and you're getting with this cheap of a price. So, um, you know, they probably want to get a Chan more involved, you would think and he was hurt a lot last season. Um, but I still think that you're going to get a lot of production for mostard. I think that you can get a lot of production out of both of these guys, really. So yeah, uh, yeah, I, I like mostard for where you're getting a 15 dollars is not much for the guy who was number two last year is he going to be running back to again this year? Probably not. I think that that's a little high for sure. Uh, but drafting him at RB 30, like, is he going to be better than 30? Yeah. Absolutely. I think the reason like looking at where Devin, a Chan is going, he's currently going at an ATP of RB nine. So people clearly think that it's flipped. They're, yeah, we're going to flip that thing about the dolphins is if, if things go like last year, that sometimes they run up the score without meaning to run up the score. I mean, they can get ahead a lot and then they give it to these running backs and they pop off these huge runs. Well, that's the thing is like this, this entire offense is just so good. And that was to the, to the two, a point earlier, right? Like, like you said, they're not even trying, they're trying to just run the ball out and you give it to H and he's so explosive, uh, that, that he goes off. I mean, I don't want to compare him to like Christian McCaffrey, but I think he's got that type of ability. Now he has to stay healthy, right? We didn't see that in year one, but again, how, you know, do we really, he's injury prone to just have bad luck last year, we'll have to see more, but, uh, I think he's got the upside. Now you have to pay for him because he's $35. He's going to RB nine. So if you take that risk, you have to hope that it pans out, uh, but man, the explosiveness we saw from him last year, when he was on the field, he could be that guy that kind of just breaks everything and, and yeah, really pays off for the price you're getting at that. For sure. Yeah. And make sure you listen to us during the end season. I know in our family, my dad ended up picking up a Chan and it turned his season round after he started O and four. So, um, but yeah, I mean, you want to cover a Chan? We kind of covered Chan. I think we, I feel like we covered good enough. I mean, he's going at the RB nine with an AV of 35 and I would rather draft most of the 30 than a Chan at RB nine. What do you think, Cody? Oh, man, I'm, I'm really big. On a Chan. I really like him. It's just, you've got to know going into its high risk high reward. Like, yeah, you could get either side of, of the car. You could get the explosive back that we saw our glimpses of, or you could get most her gets more of the work and he doesn't see as much. He gets hurt. Uh, but I, and I really, really liked the upside of a chain. I think I don't have a problem paying that much for him, uh, and, and roll in the dice. You sometimes you got to take risks and fantasy football shoot for the moment can go either way. Um, but, uh, I like taking the risks with him. Would you take them both? I don't think that's a bad idea. If you can get both of them, because then if one of them does go down, or if, you know, then you've got the one that does pop off if they go with one. Um, so yeah, and I think they can both be productive. We saw that last year. They can be both productive side by side and, you know, the dolphins are scoring eight touchdowns at the end of the game and they each get four because they just can't stop. Yeah. For sure. Uh, let's talk about the judge running back in a brief haul. Um, I was state shout out to Iowa state. Um, not tight on you, but it's Iowa state, he, um, but it's better than Iowa. So that's all that matters. I, I wouldn't, uh, I was state, uh, except there's a Husker fan on the pod. So I've all got my grandpa's, uh, Iowa state alumni. So I do. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. We're in our basement again this week. Yeah. And the, there was like that photo of like, was it four or five? It was four or five and Colfax. Yeah. That was pretty cool. Um, it's weird. It has. All right. Breeze Hall, average 14.9 points a game last season with five top five finishes. His AP is RB two with an AV of $59 and last year, he came in at RB four. He's, I just have to point this out right now with the going at an ADP of RB two. That's the head of Bajon. Yeah. The head of sequan and Jonathan Taylor. Do you feel like he should be that RB two? Are you taking him on RB two? I'll let Cody lead. I know. There's other guys I'd rather have. I think he's going to be good. I think he's, he's a great running back. And I think he's going to be productive. But would I rather have Bajon Robinson? Yes. Would I rather have Gibbs? Yes. Would I rather have Jonathan Taylor? Yes. I'd rather have Seiko on Barkley. Maybe. Like I just, I don't know, I don't think that I'm ever going to be in a position where when he's up on the board in a draft or, or spending money on, on people that I'm going to want to spend it on Breeze Hall because there's going to be other guys that I want. So I think he's going to be great. And I think he's going to have a good season. But he's so hyped by everyone that I'll let them by the hype. And I'll, I'll go in on somebody else. Yeah. No, I, I 100% agree. I would rather have Bajon Robinson or Seiko on Barkley over Breeze Hall. Breeze Hall and Christian McCaffrey obviously going as RB one rather have him. I love Breeze Hall. I think he's a very good finished football player, but I think $59 and RB two is too high of a price personally. Yeah. It's expensive. Yeah. I don't see him finishing there. No. Yeah. And again, like to your, to your point of valent earlier, like you're drafting him out of ceiling. So he has to get that and think that I feel less confident in him than some of these other people. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Ramondra. Yeah. Let's do it. Ramondra Stevenson averaged about 10 and a half points a game last season. He had one top five finish. He's currently going at an ADP of RB 20 with an AV of $23. And last year he finished as RB 36. He did miss five games. So that contributed to the finishing of 36 spot. So he's being drafted in RB 20. Yeah, I, I'll make Cody proud here and say that I'm a huge Ramondra Stevenson fan. I always have been. He's a dog. I feel like he's always slept on. He doesn't do a ton of catching out of the backfield, but he can. He lowers his shoulder and makes contact. Had the injuries last year, to me, it's going to be a big question of can Drake May or Jacobi percent be good enough that the run game opens, but I'm still a big Ramondra fan. Cody, I assume you are, but how do you feel about Ramondra Stevenson at that RB 20 and $23 AV? Yeah, I love him. I get him a lot of years because like you said, he just kind of gets slept on and lost in the shuffle. And yet he's pretty solid for you. Just kind of always produces not going to be the running back. Number one, like we know that, but he's going to be solid for where you're getting him at. Just resigned for a new deal. Yeah, $26 million guaranteed or something like probably way too much money for what he is, but they believe in him. They brought him in and Tony Gibson's coming in. He might take a little more of the catching work. Stevenson, like you mentioned, has never really been the big catching back guy, but I think resigning him kind of shows like, Hey, this guy is a core piece of our team. We like him. You know, the Patriots aren't going to be up in a bunch of games where they're running the ball late, but I think that they're probably not going to be great either. So they're just going to stick to the game plan and run the ball. I don't think that it's going to be where they're down and just trying to chuck it all the time, especially if you are trying to work in a Drake May, like you're just going to have to have a game plan, play your game and do your thing. So I think that Stevenson is going to see plenty of work. The lack of touchdowns could be there because are the Patriots going to score a bunch touchdowns? Probably not, right? But I think that Stevenson can be pretty productive. Yeah. No, I agree. Right now, top, top running back and best value. I'm going with a Chan for the, for the top running back. I think that he, he gets it done. Dethrones, Breeze Hall in this, in this deal. Best value. Probably James Cook, honestly. You could go with most or maybe two, but I like Cook because I think you're going to get a top 10 running back top 15 running back. For, for the RB 12 price. So I like it. Yeah. Mer. I'm going James Cook as my top. As your top. All right. Well, that makes him a good value. Yeah. Yeah. And, but I also, I also like most of an AV of 15. Yeah. Because I see him finishing above RB 30. So I really think, I think that's low. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely like the other guy I would, I would toss in there as value. Yeah. Breeze Hall is my top guy. I don't think he gets dethroned by Achan. I do think he's getting drafted to high, but he's still my top running back in the division. And then I think Rahim Most, Rahim Mostr is the best value because $15. I mean, that's almost a high end flex piece in auction value. And I feel like Rahim Mostr can be that. So. All right. Shall we talk about wide receivers? Let's do it. All right. All right. We have got. Well, let's, let's talk about the bills. Thinking about the bills, like who is going to take, who's going to take the lead? Because who we have right now. Okay. Is he an option? Right. Kaleel, Shakir, courtesy, Curtis Samuel. Um. They also added her drops a lot. MVS is showing up in the locker room. I mean, this is a weird. Chase Claypool. Like, do the Steelers just have like the magic water from space jam for wide receivers? Or. I think so. Cause like Juju Smith and even Antonio Brown, when he like these guys just like fall off the face of the earth when they're so fucking. Chase Claypool looked like he was going to be so good in Pittsburgh. Yeah. No, I, I agree. It's like they leave Pittsburgh and it's like, they go kind of go crazy. Um, I guess Juju didn't go crazy, but I feel like, you know, but he just didn't like he has not, he's not been. I sometimes I forget that he's even on the page. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Um, go ahead. I know you're a big key on Coleman fan. Yeah. I do think that Curtis Samuel in the slot might have some sneaky value. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Samuel, like, he's always always had it when he was with the Panthers. He's with the commanders. Like, he's always a guy that I've grabbed late. You can stick him in there, especially if you have, like, I plan a lot of leagues where you start three wide receivers. You've got a couple of flexes, like, I'm needing guys just to jump in for a week or two here and there. He's a great piece that you can stick in there and he's going to get some catches. He's going to get some yards every week. Um, I love getting him and you're always getting him cheap. He's always super late. He's a dollar in the auctions. Like, he's always trying to get, and you're going to get some production out of him. And especially, like, he's kind of, I guess you could say MBS, but like, he's kind of the veteran guy in this wide receiver room and probably a guy that, then Alan's going to kind of be able to trust underneath there in the slot. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I like he on Coleman for a dollar. I like Curtis Samuel for a dollar. I love getting him in basketball drafts and stacking him with Josh Allen. He can make that work. It's amazing. There's no dog hair in your old face. Um, she's like, uh, is that a dog hair to your lip? I was also going to, you dropped. I just, I don't know. You got me paranoid. I also, um, I couldn't help but point out the phrase you said Miranda also loves a good piece that you can stick in. Um, as I was saying that I realized that was a portrait. Especially those words around me. Um, Boji Joe, Congestion Fields catch better than he throws from a Bears fan, by the way. Um, I think he steals the starting job. I'm just throwing that. Dude, basketball late Justin Fields. Although he's, he's still, he's been climbing up a little bit in the draft. So I've been doing here lately. Sitting in that QB two spot. Like just, uh, he's like, oh, like, if anybody can make him good. It's the guy who made Chase Clay pull good. Like, right? It's like, yes, I agree. Agreed. Uh, let's talk about these dolphins. I love these receivers. Uh, Tyree kill. Average 19.8 points a game last season. He had eight top five finishes. He is currently going at an ADP of wide receiver two with an AAV of a spendy $54. Um, and last season. He, he missed one game, but still came in at wide receiver two. So he's being drafted exactly where he ended. And then I'm just going to talk about Jalen wattle really quick. And let's look at these guys down. Um, for Jalen wattle, he's, he averaged 11.6 points per game. He had one top five finish. His ADP is wide receiver 20 with an AAV of $18 and last season. He finishes wide receiver 34 missing three games. So I'm going to talk on them both real quickly. We don't mind. Okay. Uh, Tyree kill. Are you going to be the person that fades a guy that's had over 1,700 yards two years in a row? Right. Can he make it three? Maybe not 1,700, but, but I don't want to fade him necessarily. It does. Uh, I don't know what he is, Miranda. No, I know. But I think like, I want to know. Check his speed. Is he still fast? Yeah. I did see him get burned by a kid on, on social media. Um, maybe he was living a kid when like 26 is like, yeah, he's still fine. He's got like eight kids this year. Like he's a young man at heart. That's not even a joke either. Right. So there is that concern of mine of the drama, but, um, what concern of all the kids. It's not a concern. Cause he's been, like, broke his kids legs. Still performed well. House burned down last year. Still performed well has 47 children. It doesn't matter what happens. It just shows up and runs fast. With the guy who has all the kids. I don't know. The movie with the guys with all the kids. It doesn't matter. We're good. Cheaper by the dozen. No. Smart. Um, I mean, CD lam's going number one. Tyreeke, number two guys behind him are Justin, Jefferson, Jamar, Chase, Monra, St. Brown, A.J. Brown, Puka. I get all those guys are talented, but there's no world in where, if I can get Tyree kill, I'm going to grab him. I mean, there's no world that I don't. And then Jalen waddle. He's a little bit trickier. I mean, 2023 a step back from 2022 where he finished his wide receiver seven. Now he's wide receiver 34. They brought in OBJ. I think he's closer to the seven range. Right. I think he's closer to that seven range, but. I think wide receiver 34 is a little low for him. Cody. What do you think? Yeah, I love both these guys. I think the only guy I would take over Tyreeke, Monra, St. Brown, because he's going to be the number one wide receiver this year, calling that now. But I love Tyreeke kill. He's worth every penny. And he's worth where he taken. He just shows up and performs. And for waddle again, like what have we been saying this entire episode about this offense? It really fucking good. He's going to perform too. He just got paid. He's happy. Everything's good in dolphin land. Give me both these guys. And I think you're getting kind of a steal on waddle at this price and being drafted wide receiver 20. I remember working at Wells Fargo and learning what something being fire meant. Your cupcakes were fire is what I was told. And they were red velvet. And I was like, cause they're red. And I got laughed at. They're like, no, that means something's really good. It's like, oh, sorry. Not very hip over here. Obviously. News is slow. And I was just not very hip. Yeah. I think we all agree. Dolphins receivers thumbs up. All right. Let's talk about the just quick. Garrett Wilson average 9.7 points a game last season. No top five finishes. His 80 P. His 80 P is wide receiver eight with an AV of $35. And last year he finished his wide receiver 31. I'm sorry. Aaron Rogers is not. I just don't see him being a. I don't know what we can get to that in a minute. Um, they've also got Mike Williams now on the jets. This is painful. You did love your chargers. The chargers are just completely different. They're a stranger to me now. Um, but Mike Williams is going at an 80 P of wide receiver 55. And an AV of a dollar. I mean, he was like out last season. Yeah, he missed most most here. I have much to say there about that. Right. I have a lot to say about Mike Williams. Do not take him in season long fantasy. He will fucking burn you any time you ever have him. Best ball. Yes, because he can pop off a lot of big games. And he has a lot of games where he doesn't show up. I've been burned by him too many times. I will not touch Mike Williams. Interesting. I would touch him for a dollar. I did. Justin, how do you feel about that? This, this show just went south. Um, for a dollar, I mean. Because you're going to get him for a dollar. And then like week seven and eight and 13, he's going to go off. You're going to be so excited. You're going to play offs. You're going to play him. He's not going to catch a single fucking pass. And he's going to cost you your talent. He's going to play him. Time time stands right now, Justin. You come back and get in the playoffs when he fucks you over. Because he sucks. I like it. I'm not. Um, I like, I like him for the dollar to see if it pans out because I think not being or being a wide receiver to where everybody focuses on Garrett Wilson and Breeze Hall. He could, like you're saying, he could have games. healthy. Garrett Wilson at wide receiver eight is too high for me. And this is because he's going there because Rogers is back and they think he's gonna he's a talented dude but he is like I'm a little bit torn on this because I think it's too high of a price and I don't want to pay it but like if you look at the where he's at like he's been drafted at eight you got Harrison at nine on said rather person but then it's Adams I don't want anything to do with him with the quarterback situation there London they're putting a lot of faith in the Falcons then it's a lobby I that's kind of a toss up between them but it kind of falls off like I you I don't know what you want him over Wilson digs I don't want over Collins like that wide receiver rooms is too so I think if you're you know if he falls past the the St. Brown and AJ Brown and Puka and Harrison and he's still there maybe you would take him but I think that people are just too high on this Jets offense and we saw that in the running back section right like I just don't have all that faith in them yeah sports nonsense whiskey point out you got dollars and we're talking tight end soon you love to blow your load on the tight end my your wad sorry he's just it get it right sorry Nick yeah no I would take Chris Olave over Garrett Wilson honestly I think when you mentioned Olave I was like oh he yeah that's so so I think yeah out on out on Wilson just not because it's not going to be good again like just because he's too overvalued you're drafting him out of ceiling yeah agreed now for the Patriots Cody I'd hope you don't mind me we have wide receivers that's what I was gonna say like who do you think is gonna become the main guy here um yeah the get it get a dartboard out and uh throw it toss one uh the mayor of Douglas so it's gonna be dogless like he he did have big flashes last year and I think that there's something to build on there and and you're basically you're getting all of these guys at a dollar you're getting them all super late so um born is kind of born as a guy that you probably want in best ball I feel like his injury was like week nine or week 10 so I don't know where we're at on like him returning right the start of the season I've not been paying that close attention to the Patriots yet uh but pop dog was definitely I think has the the highest ceiling I do like polkas as a rookie coming in a lot of unknowns there obviously and and I think that's you're taking chances on a lot of these guys uh as far as the Patriots right it's cheap you end up taking uh may at a dollar maybe him and polkaited off you know be in rookies and all of a sudden you have a two dollar stack that looks really great all of a sudden because nobody really saw it coming potentially um but yeah popped up if I like if you put them all on the board right now I gotta draft one demara Douglas pop Douglas is is the guy that I'm I'm taking first and then probably polka after that and then born again born it's kind of one of those guys like he's gonna have big weeks for you but it's gonna be more inconsistent yeah um and all the reports out of OTAs I know it's just OTAs but saying that Douglas looks like the guy he looks like the best receiver there so I'm with you that's really good flashes last year and yeah he was mac jones so like if you can look good with mac jones then I mean percent like percent is not a back quarterback at all I don't mind him starting the season for the Patriots I think that's fine if may is not ready and he can produce and and have good wide receivers playing for him so uh I don't don't think that's a bad situation at all biggest question with bersett is will the medical team puncture his long um that jones and harvard is not sitting behind him so I don't think that's true unless so let's drink may is really starting to look that good then maybe bell check uh ends up being the doctor in the room or something but right all right for wide for wide receivers top wide receiver best value gotta be tariq for top if you say somebody else other than tariq who are you taking out of all these give me uh yeah tariq uh best value best value uh pop dogless come up now uh daily model I think for uh for the 18 dollars 18 to get to the model at 18 dollars yeah I'm spending one dollar and taking mic williams for a dollar okay you're taking my clothes that's not what i was gonna say you're gonna regret no i don't i i am going to rob him for a dollar but wow that what for it was just touch him wow things have escalated quick um no i we're not even in the tight ends yet i would take a fire on williams though uh for me dollar on kyankoman i think he's gonna be the dude um i i know sammyl's gonna take some of that slot work i know dalton kinkade dust knocks are getting work that's but i i think kyankoman he's just got he's got a persona that is infectious and i think he's going to be good so much upside there too like he could just slide in and be the number one guy on what is already a great offense with a great quarterback yeah yeah you have a really good little let's buy yeah for sure tight ends we're getting into the tight ends now talk about the tight ends um yeah let's start with the bills okay um dalton kinkade he averaged 7.1 points per game last season he had two top five finishes his current adp is going at that tight end five spot with an av of 18 dollars last year he just made the top 12 finishing at tight end 12 um i mean i think that he like i know we've kind of hinted at this but he has a chance of being the top target on the bills offense yeah he does and this is this is an offense that it's they throw the ball a lot mm-hmm yeah no i agree uh cody wears thoughts on dalton kinkade is he really going at tight end five yeah right ahead of cow pits yes he's and just and i are very much agreed on cow cooney this is very but like no Miranda a thousand yards in his rookie season no quarterback throwing to him and what is the sense but he hasn't had kirk he had who was throwing to him last year he would have done better if you were throwing the ball to him last i don't know about that you've never seen her in this row it doesn't matter how Miranda knows i know we can't talk about this because i got mad that this got brought up and that was 16 years ago long story short one time Miranda threw something and it was her mom was behind her and thought she'd be fine they hit her mom in the face so maybe would not be better i am much more coordinated than i was 16 years ago okay but as far as where he's being drafted i agree with you there's definitely upside there he could be the number one target of buffalo it's a strong offense but i think at this point have we learned to to not trust tight ends uh to to like i don't know how to say it i guess but younger tight ends i i don't know like la porta's going one and i think that's what i learned i think we've seen him be that next elite level but like have we seen that from kinkade yet have we seen him be that guy no i mean yeah you had some really great performances last year but i just don't know and like when you can get pits after him when you can get george kittle after him even evan engrom after the season he had last year rock powers who's supposed to be really good probably gonna be on a lesser offense an easy tight end dump off there like i'd rather have some of these guys going after him than then him i think he's gonna have a good season but i think you're just paying too much and like as far as tight ends go i either want the top of the line la porta kelsey andrews or i want to wait and get you know come at later on you can't wait you just can't wait my motto is you can't wait yeah how'd that work out for you last year what do you mean in the the listener league where you drafted kelsey super a million i was i blame my partner i'm pretty sure that he was not the one advocating to drop drama i said stop stop you kept betting we blew or wad way too early in that league yes we did even erin roger's lasted longer than you guys in that league fact fact um you can't draft my homes and kelsey in auction not in that league we couldn't know um no i agree with you kody i he finished tight end 12 last year does he take a step forward yeah i think so i do think so but does he take seven steps forward to tight end five i don't think so there's there's too much volatility in the tight end that's the word i was looking for earlier like it just varies too much outside of your like known commodities and yeah so i i'm gonna save the money and go somewhere else tight i was we had a week last year where what's his name stone smart stone smart finished as a top five tight end and one week last year so i mean there's like there's weird variations with tight ends it's hard uh yeah unless you get one of those top proven guys i personally don't think we need to talk about johnson smith or tyler conklin i'll turn it over to kody do you think we need i mean no i yeah i mean johnson's in that uh you know super productive offense but again he's in that offense that has tyrene and wattle and han and most are yeah is he gonna get any of that work you might have a game or two where he pops off sure but you're not he's not gonna be consistent yeah i agreed and i'm very who like yeah right yeah i feel like he's irrelevant there and very few tight ends have been fantasy consistent with erin roger's anyways it's just not a position he bolsters a lot so um yeah i don't think there's any use in that but let's tell you about the patriots because because kody is our guest and Miranda loves hunter henry she had me she had two tight ends i was getting under in roof for a dollar and she decided oh i can't let you get them for a dollar let me take a third fucking tight end all i had zero um and that's why we can't draft in the same room anymore that's one of the reasons we don't do that anymore so yeah how about an envelope for us except for when we have to draw it doesn't end well for us because we had to be in the same room drafting for our listener league and it did not go well um so one thing i want to point out about hunter henry is he also averaged 7.1 points per game last season which is the same miss concade he had three top five finishes um he finished he missed three games last season but still finished is tied in 18 and he's going at an adp of 19 a av of a dollar um just as a like side note um patriots also have awesome why is this why is this i see this in the show document why is this a side note is that notable i mean he used to be relevant he did i'm gonna here we go let me fix this he's fixing it um you'll eat at that note from the document which is just remove it it um it stands out to me that he had the same game average as Dalton concade a guy that's going at tight end five for seventeen dollars less and yeah yeah yeah and seven tight ends or wait yeah yeah seven tight end spots later or no because he's going to have five that is geez there's a lot of numbers in front of me here uh he's going 14 spots later then yeah like that's the thing is i'd rather take a guy like Henry it's probably going to be a little less consistent than a than a concade yes but he's going to have his boom weeks where he has a couple of touchdowns we even saw that last year if you end up getting the rookie quarterback in here that's safety blanket underneath when you don't have stud wide receivers yeah you know if if the offensive line isn't great and they're getting to the quarterback quick Henry's going to be right there to catch the ball a lot uh so yeah i like him especially for the cheap price you're getting a mat with the upside he has and he's fairly consistent he can't take him as your tight end one why not maybe he's i mean if you totally punt the tight end spot which is not i understand that you don't understand but it's uh it's a possible whoa i just i don't know i understand that you don't understand i know you need two tight ends in the first four rounds right let's say that the top tight ends have gone for way too much you miss out on all of them you're not gonna overspend on a guy like dalton concade are you draft is not going well i i will say all the tight ends early in these drafts at the randa so that we can get them out of the way just let her blow her a lot on right on tight ends and uh you've got to have a top five tight end i will say i've seen this i've seen this lady throw magazine across the room before when she was mad when she was drafting draft him yes yeah but tight end is so hard to predict who's gonna be the top five yeah like i mean look at the board right now do you think that la porta kelsey mcbride anders and concade are the top five for sure no no so it's obviously cowpitz right because cowpitz gave me number one so that takes that spot oh uh george kittle can be in there like we need to we need to between the three of us have a serious bet about this a serious bet a serious bet about pets cody has to come clean our house or we have to go clean it is i don't know if you want to take that bet but uh uh yeah rod rod is on your side maryna so you and rod can come up with something on the the negative side of pits just and i will take the other side and i'm not sure where he is but he can't drink out there stop tempting him he is on uh he's on army duty i saw army yes he's in he's on virginia so uh little east coast rod for a couple of weeks nice i knew i did uh watch the episode that uh cody did by himself one of the i've done a few lately i like the one where it was uh what did you say and say free kyle i have it right here free kyle bush there you go yeah this showed us how i opened the shell because i loved it yes he needs to be freed from the shitty team he's on but uh jamey jamey jamey jamey i don't know and believe you're still going but i talk a lot so we're still a lot of nonsense happening yes we talk too much um that's our tight ends top tight end it's hard not to argue dalom kinkade is the top out of this group i agree yeah yeah yeah best value hunter henry yes yeah clean sleep what do you mean you're taking john new smith or what's uh what's uh i'm not gonna say eighteen dollars for what is dawson nox is is he just a dollar two yeah yeah he could be a little bit sneaky um yeah i like him i i don't mind taking him um as a bit of a flyer not as you're tied in one maranda okay but uh i think that he could could easily kind of have a nice little spot there i think i would take hunter henry as kind of a flyer i i got burned on dawson nox last year because i was like that dalom kinkade guy he isn't gonna do much and then well if he went he got hurt early and then it just you know let's talk else but yep um everybody knows that you blow your watt on tight ends on the right tight ends on the not the left ones uh here's how dross with maranda go kelsey or laporda kelsey concade laporda yeah laporda is just yeah but she loves her i would tight ends obviously um on the right the one thing i know it's right tight ends right and corn uh not as good as the rascal but that's a shoey go over our best bets um let's do it we'll let cody kick it off you what uh what do you want first the lock first yeah let's hear your lock all right here's the lock for you josh allen over 480.5 rushing yards minus one oh five guys he's been in the league for six seasons only one time is he not hit this where he got to four sixty one or wait that's the wrong number oh wait what what is going on here oh there's the right number four twenty one boy it's been a long day uh he got to four twenty one that season so not too far off of the four eighty number that was only in sixteen games back in 2020 covid everything was weird throwing it out the window but every other season he's easily cleared this total five twenty four last season seven sixty two and twenty two seven sixty three and twenty one and they only set it at four eighty point five uh this over on draft kings by the way minus one oh five take the over josh allen rushing yards that's my lock for the division i like it i like it a lot randa you want to give your lockout yeah i'll do that oh i get already here the saree cody coming let's go ahead drake my under what no no um i don't think it's underwind total no no no drake no drake may here oh i don't think the bills are progressing like a lot of people are talking um and you can get them at plus one seventy to win the division the jets are plus one ninety and the dolphins slipped to plus two hundred i one hundred percent feel like the bills will win the division you forgot to give out the patriot's number i don't know if you're real i did or i didn't write down the patriot's number it's twenty five to one marina twenty five one there you go that's a dollar for you um but like you know the the bills it's it's a well coached team it's you've got josh allen like i just give me the bills plus one seventy to win i like that i actually think if if they don't win the division or if they struggle again that mcdermett might be on the hot seat um because it just seems like he's had a lot of chances and i got it my luck i will start with sorry cody patriots won't four games last year and i do think they're on track to start getting better but they got a really tough schedule this year um and usually that fourth place team it's not as tough but here's their schedule bangles seahawks jets niners dolphins texans jaguars jets titans bears loss rams dolphins colts cardinals bills chargers bills i think they get a win against the jets the cardinals i think is the next easiest team but that's on the road in arizona i looked at this and i just thought holy shit they got a really tough schedule especially for a quarterback room that maybe it's per set or maybe it's the rookie and a young team under four and a half wins is plus one thirty five and sorry cody i'm locking it in all right noted noted i'll be back i made the list all right dogs i have two dogs for you i hope that's okay we got uh yeah a small dog a little to walla and then uh a big dog so all right jamie president of the jacobie bersett fan club all right let's go i like it i love i love you i love you all right we're gonna start with the small dog a little chihuahua bark here Miami dolphins win the division two to one buffalo is regressing unlike what maranda said and uh yeah the dude this offense unstoppable they're gonna get the bills i think they had the same record last season but it lost obviously the tiebreaker they're gonna get one more in this season and get it and then drumroll please the new england patriots to start the season five and oh 100 to one here's how this goes they play the bangles in week one the slowest starting team in the league is the bangles they're gonna come out flat lose the first game then they go to seattle new coach or no they actually seattle comes to new england new coach what's going on with the quarterback situation there it's gonna be a three-nothing game patriots win it play the jets in week three erin rogers is already two and a half games done he's back on the ayahuasca that's three wins the 49ers game is gonna be a little bit of a struggle but i believe in the patriots they can get it done by this time drake may is looking like the number one fantasy quarterback in the league and they go in upset the big 49ers and then they come home take care of the dolphins we always split with the dolphins anyways gonna have though they'll win the home game five and oh 100 to one thank me later no he's got hi hope sees guy um yeah i mean i don't see it but i i hope it happens for you because i know you're a big patriot i also don't see it but uh i like to believe in in miracles so gotta keep there you go you know yeah there's a path right i carved up the path it's a 100 to one for a reason right but yeah we hit it we hit 80 to one on the nascar podcast a couple weeks ago we like those big dogs over there so uh we don't give them out if they can't hit this one you definitely i mean even if you won about a dollar you get paid one a hundred one dollars i mean that's a good return on investments sounds like a good dollar i could i could find worse ways to spend dollars on shitty tight ends right marina like you've been a dollar and you could touch my client i'd rather put it on the page or it's at a hundred one that touch like welcome with that dollar so there we go there you go all right maria your dog yeah um kind of playing off of my block of the bills winning the division um i think that the dolphins come in seconds so you can get bills dolphins one and two um one to two exact on droppings at plus 500 and these are you know two teams that were neck and neck last year i don't see that changing as long as both alan and tua are healthy so just you know for record if you are scared that it might be dolphins bills you can go to top two on droppings and get the top two to be bills dolphins in any order at plus 190 i like that because i have no faith in the jets or patriots sorry um i i think for sure it's sorry cody yeah bills dolphins so if you get any order plus 190 seems really good um yeah no i i do like i think those two teams should be the top two and i joke about the patriots they're not it's going to be a rebuilding process they're not gonna they're gonna be a 14 in this division i i understand that but i do think that it will be bills and dolphins at the top and then the jets will be the 13 yeah it's it's interesting to me that there's so much hype on the jets i mean they did win eight games last year without erin roger's and they had was zak wilson and then i don't even remember who they brought in at quarterback they were so unnotable so um they're their defense is really still win eight games with that like if erin roger shows up i could see the case but i am much less in on them than the other two teams i'm not gonna overthink it the the cowboys i think will take a step back i know you're thinking wrong division but it has to deal with cd lamb maybe not getting as many yards as he has been and tyree kill is the favorite for most receiving yards he's had 1700 two years in a row but even as a favorite it's six to one odds it's plus 600 i think that he has a very good chance of hitting that um he's uncoverable he racks up a shit ton of yards mike bink daniel knows how to use him at at six one i'm all over that one so i like it yeah that's my dog yeah we'll go in tyreek as long as two is healthy uh you cannot do that you're banned from doing it on the show i do not like it control your husband branded what what's going on over there i know he he's sleeping on the couch i was doing the bear claw i think it's not the bear claw that's not okay i don't know why you think it's funny i'm not laughing she gets laughing the letters like uh no i'm not laughing anyways i can't that's just all whenever i think two of that's what i see you can't help it i don't see that shout out to keep her's heart that we're drinking um if you find yourself going to the uh the gift story you can get yourself keep her's heart glasses that are made from the bottles they sell those special yeah so you mentioned that their bottle is really cool you can get a glass that has that on it you probably can order that online too you can see um i just finish all the way a little paranoid there is no dog hair uh i'm pretty sure i see a dog hair no don't say that uh you can find cody at the nascar gambling podcast you can find him at the f1 gambling podcasting all over s gpn cody uh let us know what's coming up what's big in nascar right now and what articles do you have are you working on oh articles there's a lot of them i do have uh over on sport just go to sportym and podcast.com you'll see them all i got super bowl i i like wrote up every team basically a little a little bit on them what their chances are made a couple of picks there picked every division winner to bet on um and then i've got two or two frances this weekend so i got an article out on that cover the premiere lacrosse league every week i've got best bets over there tomorrow there'll be a nascar underdog article there'll also be an underdog article for the hot dog eating contest next week let's go hot dog best bets coming next week so make sure you check that out uh there's f1 articles over there all kinds of stuff so make sure you're following me ad husk runners score z she can find all that stuff all the sports you want to bet on and even the sports you don't know yet you want to bet on um i really do you think you should try to do a little fighting coming soon and maybe sumo wrestling since that's a thing adam i know you're listening jade would like pillow fighting that so i would like to see cody right as sumo wrestling yeah sumo wrestling i'll have to explain what sumo wrestling is to maranda but i know what it is i just don't know it's still around i don't know why i just do you know what it is uh i do well they wrestle sumo's wrestle sumo's wrestle you nailed it yep you definitely go to this please describe sumo wrestling well sumo's wrestle that's that's the extent of it uh oh that's actually how i'm going to start there on a cloud this is a sport where sumo's wrestle each other okay now onto the bets i love it um yeah cody myself cody does great work uh i love all the articles and the versatility too on all the sports but for sure check out nascar i am not somebody who i don't follow nascar i don't watch nascar that often except when i place bets with these guys and it's like i'm gonna flip it on my phone and see what's going on on it they know what they're talking about yeah they're very very knowledgeable when it comes to nascar um and they will win you money i guarantee you that it might not be the week you tune in it might not be that so just keep tuning in because you're going to win money because so many then nascar bets are plus money so well yeah we like you'll have last week was kind of a rough week but you'll have big weeks like i said we hit 80 to 1 earlier this season on the outright winner like and yeah you get a lot of big plus money bets so it helps a ton uh it's funny because you talk about like you come and talk about football and stuff and it's like oh yeah minus 125 minus 130 like if we bring up a minus 130 bet on the nascar show we're like oh this one's kind of juiced up a little bit but uh we're gonna pull the trigger on it and it's like so yeah it's it's a lot of fun and uh i do cover lots of sports but nascar is my sport that's uh i've lived and breathed that since i was a little kid so it's a lot of fun and then rod obviously my co-host is is the best as you guys know so uh yeah check it out we always have fun over there and even if you don't know anything about nascar like just tell the bets and uh have fun we try to make it uh entertaining show so and you only pay the juice if you lose boom uh you're gonna pay the juice on max for stapping but in f1 but he's gonna win i mean that's just how that's not not so much anymore not the tide is turning in f1 you got 200 of the f1 you have the podcast find that out yeah lando noris week this week so uh there you go all right uh marina do you have anything else you'd like to add i just want to thank you for joining us and putting up with all of our sorry co-teas and talking down about the patriots and and the huskers and the huskers yeah well when the huskers beat i with this year i will make sure you rub it in and we'll talk about it for you number one time you'll be hearing from me is it when mike williams loses you playoff spots you'll be helping me again no no i didn't say i i'm not taking him as uh uh if you're spending a dollar on him i would touch him for a dollar and then he's gonna you would touch him for a dollar and then he's gonna make you regret touching that so one dollar um what what i miss that we froze you frozen yeah i said you're gonna spend a dollar on him and he's gonna make you regret touching him oh yeah i do appreciate you guys having me on love the show uh listen listen to everyone so you guys are always entertaining good knowledge for the most part you think iowa corn's better we can't be right about it yes it is it's you look at that's all people know about iowa corn well that's all they know about raska too though but we got a lot cows here we both got beat by pennsylvania and corn this year so i know there is that is that all right everybody thank you for tuning in uh make sure you give cody a follow at husker underscore zeb always got good stuff going on and go check out the nascar gambling podcast because it's a lot of fun randy your old fashion is not again gone because you're worried about the dog hair but mine is going once going twice so so
Old-Fashioned Football is back to talk the AFC East Fantasy Football preview, plus some best bets! They're joined by Nascar Gambling Podcast host and Patriot fan, Cody Zeeb. Find out how they feel about the AFC East as far as players go for fantasy values. They talk about this year's expectations and how they feel on both their ADP (average draft position) and AAV (average auction value).
After discussing each team the hosts and their guest give out some of their value players as far as AAV goes. Then, they dive into some best bets within the division including some solid bets close to even money.
WHISKEY
As always, it isn't just football on Old-Fashioned Football. This week, the hosts are drinking Keeper's Heart finished in Orange Sherry Barrels. Find out how they feel about this unique whiskey on it's own as well as in an Old-Fashioned. The hosts give some background on the whiskey as well as share their thoughts on how they feel on its tastes.
TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Intro
19:56 - Quarterbacks
40:00 - Running Backs
53:20 - Wide Receivers
1:07:48 - Tight Ends
1:19:11 - Best Bets
