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It just means more when he's in studio from the couch football experience. Colby Dan a K pick Dundee. What's happening Colby? Oh, just I'm really excited about the I haven't been excited for S E C football in a long time. Really? Since probably like the early probably late nineties early 2000s. Really? Yeah. Now what's the why you so jacked up about? I think getting rid of the division. Remember the S E C didn't used to have divisions and then when they moved to divisions. I think getting rid of the S E C is huge because that division was like was weaker for the past like 14, 15 years pretty obviously. And now also getting Oklahoma and Texas and believe it or not, like as far as like expansion now, I think it's somewhat foolish for for Oklahoma, but they do kind of fit the blueprint of the S E C where it's like the big 10 one is like ridiculous. You know what I mean? Like so and if you're going to compare the two, which you're great. Give you give the S E C better grades on maintaining the integrity of their league. Yes. By far. So power rank the conferences in terms of maintaining integrity. I actually think one S E C. Okay. Two big 12 turning into an S E C Kramer right? I think after that, you know what? I'm at three. I'll do A C C because I think the A C C had to do it. Well, one A C C doesn't have a number. You give him points for that. They're not. They're not starting to know their website. Don't list how many teams because it's going to change. But, but their website still says Atlantic coast. Yeah, we should probably just flip that to all coast conference. And yeah, no, it makes total sense. If you're the Illuminati conference, you have to have Stanford and Cal. Do you know how much? I mean, obviously, obviously, I guess of you. Don't forget that. It would have been great to see that brainstorming session. Like, okay, ACC, we can't call it Atlantic anymore. Because we got some Pacific team. Well, why don't we just call it all? All right. Problem solved. We don't have to adjust the A C C. All the A C C gear we have. But big 10 and big 12. They can. They don't have those discussions the better without sound about naming their conference, something that's obviously wrong. The ultimate would be just like they hire the consulting firm and the consulting firm comes back with a plan to, all right, we're going to keep it the big 10, but it's going to be an acronym and the toughness eligibility, tough, tough, toughness encompassed in the north. That's actually we should put out some acronym conference. Okay. I mean, sending your favorite big 10 acronym. Yeah, I do. I do think, to your point, what is the SEC done? Well, they've added two teams that really want to cheat. Yeah, they've been cheating for a fucking hundred years, think they're way better than they are. And when you say Oklahoma actually has history and have loud obnoxious accents that piss people from the north off. When you say integrity, I think what you're saying is like, keep true to their roots, which is having no integrity. Yes. Pain for everything. So keeping it in keeping it true to who they are as a conference. 100% like people don't realize that because someone might say I saw we talk in the chat going SEC and integrity. What do you mean? It means they're sticking to their what they normally do, which is well, you could argue. I know a lot of people would say they first come to mind would be like SMU is death penalty. But if you actually know the, if you dive into the backstory on that, the University of Texas had a lot to do with that. I would argue that Texas might be the scummiest. They pull the travel. They might be the scummiest of all of them. So I think, you know, they will be because you're of course, people can't always read your mind, but you're of course, like basically all the strings connect back to the Longhorn network. Correct? Yes. Okay. That's the dominant. And well, not only that, Charlie Day and he felt having the light bulb moment, I'd have to go back to, but there's some stuff out there you can read about SMU and being dealt the death penalty. I believe the governor who was working with the NCAA is a Texas alum. So he feared them coming up. I put it on the forensic files. Yeah. We got to talk about that. Also, I read a book about the, about Bear Bryant and Texas was paying players in like 1951, according to, according to whoever wrote that book about Bear Bryant, but he was quoted as saying that a couple of my players were, you know, Texas flew an airplane over their fucking house and dropped off a flag. It has to be an easier way. Yeah. Then dropping it off on the crop does. Yeah. I mean, this is, they didn't have cell phone records. You probably could have just drove to his house, knocked on the door and came in in 1952. Yeah. What? Yeah. But what's, it's a bit way, like, if you were a rich guy in 1952, you really wanted a flex, you'd fly a plane over a dude. Yeah, sure. And drop, drop an American. No, it was a flag of the university. Yeah, of course. And then you open the flag and there's, I think, I think he said, and I, I had to go back. They called that. I thought, I thought it was going to be $5,000 in cash wrapped up. Yeah. Gonna need a deeper dive on this one. Well, that's what you got to love. You got to love like the shoe does truly finish your name, finish your take. Well, Texas has been the worst. They've always been. And then they're like, we need the network. We, we were better than everybody else. And then the network, which is a failure, by the way, because no one watches it. But it wasn't a failure. They got lots of money for it. No, it's, it's done. I know. But they generated a lot of money and was probably critical at that time for them. Maybe at that time, but it also changed the framework of college football and how it was controlled. Quick, quick sidebar. Do you think spectrum will allow us to purchase the Pac-12 network now? That was a big point of contention. Yeah, you're setting up our cable and we go, can we get the Pac-12 network? They go, no, you're set up for a business account. But okay, what do you want next year? Five, 10 bucks a month. They're like, no, we don't allow possible. Like what, you know, they got, I mean, I, I understand not a lot of businesses also want to air the Pac-12 network, but let me buy the fucking Pac-12 network there. They go, I'm not going to let you. We can't do that. And I go, all right, I'll steal. They go, well, that's your choice. Yeah. You're forcing me to steal with your stupid process. Now here's what actually I think Colby in about 12 to 18 months would have gotten there. But Texas can not sit still. Texas cannot be a part of a team. Texas can't be a part of a conference. Texas is going to Texas. If I'm the SEC, I got to be keeping two eyes on Texas because at the first chance they're going to act like little bitches. Oh yeah. And they just might take the SEC down from the inside. This is going to be Texas. Texas is like a traveling salesman. It goes to Vegas immediately takes his wedding ring off. They're always looking for better opportunities, upgrade opportunities. I mean, let's say Big 10, maybe Alabama, no saving. They fall off a little bit. Georgia hits a wall. They don't SEC doesn't get the ESPN deal renewed. I don't see that happening. But if Texas sees an opportunity to hop conferences, do you think they have any loyalty to the SEC? Of course not. Well, it could be if they really struggle in the SEC. No, you know, like, yeah, if it's, if they're getting their ass kicked, then all of a sudden the big 12 might look a little attractive or the big 10 or whoever, you know, a CC. Maybe it's better to be the big fish in a small pond. Matthew McConaughey gets curious about the Illuminati stuff and wants their culture, wants to join. I mean, it's got to piss. It's got to piss them off that assume you has all this money. It's got to piss them off so bad. They tried to kill us in you and SMU undertaker, but Oklahoma's also taken a giant risk. I mean, I've talked about this before. I think on this show where you can look at Arkansas back to the Jimmy Johnson days and, and you know, they were just so dominant for so long, then they joined the SEC in 92. I think it was, or maybe 91. And then they, they've been pretty shitty sense. I mean, they, they've had a couple, couple of years where they got up, but some would call that they were a blue blood before. That's a different death penalty. That's the slow, the slow Oklahoma can be that because Arkansas doesn't produce a bunch of talent within their state, kind of like Oklahoma. They both border Texas. So they, you know, all of a sudden Texas and Texas A and M will be taking it. And now SMU is allowed to cheat like cheating is legal. You just woke up the beast. So it should be fun to watch. Yeah. And I also think like, I think the SEC may have underestimated the ability now for Texas to further recruit their regions. It does seem like this, this could be of all the conference realignment. Like the big 10s makes the least sense, but I also think it has the least chance of actually backfire. Really? No, I think the big 10 has the most chance. I think text. I 100% think Texas is going to create a problem in the future. Whether it's a Texas style wise, like the type of organization they are seems to fit in with the SEC. I do think the lifestyle difference between Los Angeles and, you know, Rutgers, Piscataway, New Jersey is pretty different compared to just different parts of the set. I almost want to make a bet with you that I don't think UCLA will be in this conference in the big 10 within the next 15 years. All right. So the bet would be who is going to lose teams first, the big 10 or the SEC, big 10 by far. I think so. I mean, there's a chance that the SEC could kick out Vanderbilt or something, you know what I mean? But as far as to get teams, I wouldn't be surprised. I think you kick out Vanderbilt because they'll run right to the Illuminati conference. That would be a bad move. The SEC all of a sudden all their farmland will start being poisoned. I would bet I would bet UCLA being the first to leave. Oh, well, I mean, that you know about what they have to do to Cal. I know we're getting way off the reservation here, but UCLA has to pay Cal a shit $10 million every year. A shitload of money because they they fucked off and left them and also like if they don't care about football that much and they're working, you know, apparently they're broke. They might have a meeting of the minds and say, Hey, if we join the, you know, the big 12 or pack two, we can go to bowl games every year. You know, I wonder if it comes full circle because at some point, you know, well, it sounds like they basically were like fucking I guess we got to go with USC. And in the moment and in hindsight, it does seem like almost every move they've made suggests they aren't super happy about it. If you read any details about the case that got settled and basically UCLA has to get it's like $11.2 million a year of the money they're getting from the big 10. They have to give to Cal Berkeley. And I think other schools within the Cal university system. So it's like, yeah, maybe you're right. But I also like, I think they're, they're, they're going to be traveling. I just, I just love the idea of Texas fucking being an absolute dynamite Texas, Texas do it something wonky stay tuned for that. Hey, shout out to Tanny, a Rosenthal last week's winner of the Patreon pickum prize this week's prize, another $100 circa bet Kramer and I are going to be at the circa hanging out. We're filling in for the three to six o'clock Pacific show on visa Monday through Wednesday. So make sure you check that out and check out all our fantasy football previews. We got quarterbacks tight ends out so far running backs receivers coming next week, lot to get to Kramer. Yeah. I mean, lots, lots of fun football. We got more future stuff after that. We got more team preview 32 NFL team previews right around the corner. And like, like, like we keep alluding to well, somehow there's even some space for some, some other episodes, British open, non football, I mean, L L P L is back with CJ. I will probably be feening for a smelling salt again. It did seem like see, I don't, you weren't here for this Colby, but CJ really like the very excited to do the smelling salts. And then very, when he found out he could go back for seconds, the, yeah, that's a real pick me up those smelling salts, huh? It's like when we're having a party and there's extra cake and the one boy at the party comes over and he's like, can I have extra cake? I mean, you can have as much cake as you want. Yes. Oklahoma, seven and two in the good old big 12. We're not starting with Mississippi state. I just jumped right. No, I had it scrolled down. Hail state. I was explaining to some parents at a youth volleyball game tonight that we should adopt the Mississippi state cowbells and be really obnoxious parents. It does seem like Mississippi state is in tough spots right now. Really tough one, one and seven last year in conference. They did get to five and seven overall, but the wind totals right back at four and a half heavily juice to the under 350 to one to win the conference. I mean, that's if, if for the people that chant S E C S E C, I mean, what are we talking about right now? You can't have teams that are 350 to one to make to to win your conference. And somehow again, I get it that the SEC is good, but 700 to one to win the college football championship. Are you serious? Why are they not a thousand to one? Like everyone else? I mean, a serious question. Yeah. What are we doing here? Well, you know, I hate this team now. You know that, right? Why do you hate this team? Well, because they got rid of the air raid. They tried to change things. What was, and, and, I mean, it's who they hired. Well, first off, they, they only gave Zach our net one year. What did you think about that? Colby? Well, he tried to go ground and pound with an air raid roster, which I thought was very stupid, but, um, so he probably deserves to be fired just off of that. I was like, what? We were questioning it heavily last year. Uh, but the guy they brought in is my nemesis. Why explained to the people. Okay. So he was the Oklahoma O C with Dylan Gabriel. He was the Ole Miss O C with Matt. Did he teach get Dylan Gabriel to fake slide? That's what I'm talking about. He does that shit. And he's done that. He did it with Mackenzie Milton at UCF two. It drives me fucking crazy. And, uh, he, this is all about offense. No, it's just the gimmick of the offense. It, it, it's not just one fake slide. They, he teaches that from his quarterbacks to run and slide abruptly. And one of my favorite moments in the three six area coaching with a clicker. All right. All right. And when you see the defender, he teaches it because it followed him. Mackenzie Milton was doing it at UCF and I hated it. Then Matt Corral at Ole Miss, then Dylan Gabriel, who was at UCF, but at Oklahoma was doing it. Well, Levy was O C. That's probably why he went to Oklahoma as the connection. So yeah, at that point, then I believe it, it's taught because it's, that's three quarterbacks in a row. And, uh, yeah, it drives me crazy. And I was so glad TCU's linebacker knocked that motherfucker out because that was beautiful. That was the best moment in football in the past decade. Um, but, uh, anyway, so I, yeah, I hate that higher, you know what I mean? Like, and maybe it works because it's going to be annoying. It's weird though. They got Blake shape and coming out of the quarterback. That's not the style of quarterback I thought he would bring in. That was a little puzzling, but the schedule is challenging for a team that just, uh, returns pretty much nobody, uh, 10 returning starters. And even with that, those are starters in college football. They were not with the program last year. You know, what I mean? I think it was two that were with the program. Yeah. That's, yeah. I mean, you almost have to blindly fade these teams. There's just, again, we talked about transfer portal combined with everything, but could they get to five wins? I mean, they're noncon feels windable for no, they go for no in the noncon. No, no, I'm saying if they go for no on the noncon, where are they getting to those other with that? One win in conference. This is the bad part is they unfortunately, they don't get Vanderbilt. Oh, you're right. They get Arkansas. That's your hope, right? Is Arkansas fires Pittman? And that would be the moment, but they got a death. Oh, he's really calling for a pivot to get. And make sure you subscribe to our patreon. We're going to be doing a forensic files dive. I love Bobby patrino there. It's just the shoe fits. I hope it's hard somewhere Eastern Kentucky. They can win. That's, but that is an interesting. They're going to win that because they want to be in Arizona state, possibly a win. Toledo at home. That's dangerous. No, no, no, no, Toledo's good man. Toledo's, they almost want him to feed last year. It's a great program. They, they, I mean, Nick Saban coached their many moves. They were three points away from being undefeated, the regular season, Arkansas at home. I love UMass on the schedule. That's a, that's a conference game. And we really should have included you and he should just break down UMass's win total. They have a lot of SEC games. I'm going to look at UMass. I told you, I did a deep dive on this. They played SEC teams 14 times in the past 10 years. The adjusted, because the, there's a crazy juice split like Kramer mentioned minus 180 on the under four and a half over is plus one 45. So it's really like taking it at 3.8 wins. If, if we're being serious here, they do have a great home field advantage. And to me, if, if like they could be three in the non-con, the first three games it is, I'm going to say, I'm going to say over four and a half just because they got to five games last year. It was a complete disaster. If I think there's enough talent on this team. And I think, I think maybe bringing in a more past centric. I know you don't like that style of football, but I do think it will catch a couple of teams off guard in the win a couple schedules of Sealy hard, but that's going to say that the SEC schedule did, like to me, if they're going to do this, they have to beat Florida on the 21st and they must go perfect in the non-con. I mean, cause they, if they, if they lose the Arizona state, which I think they would, I would favor Arizona state, then you got to beat Florida and Arkansas. Yeah. And that's not going to happen. No, this feels like you're getting cute, Sean. Now, if they had played Florida on the back end of the schedule, when Napier would be fired, then I think that'd be much more winnable. I think always execute and coaches over Florida is going to be at Texas. They got that one. He might be fired before the game even starts. This is going to seem shocking, but I'm going to take it under here. I'm going to take it under two. Really? If he had brought in a different quarterback, I, shaping doesn't really like shaping. Well, he just doesn't really fit his like running mo to me of like running his quarter. All right. I'll take the under. You guys are having me. No, I don't feel completely strong about it, but it seems crazy to lay minus 180 on this. Yeah. I just, if yeah, maybe it just seems like this is another team that has a very bear roster because they flipped their coaching staff over Missouri, who's kind of the opposite. A team that seems to outperform what they're supposed to do every year and they're finally getting a little bit of respect. They were ahead of the curve on the NIL that you could pay a high schoolers. They were the first state to do that. That basically, that's how they got Luther Burden. Luther Burden was going to go to Alabama if memory serves me correct, but they could pay him first. And you know, they're, they made a state law saying NIL, you can pay them in high school. So that's awesome. Florida just start, just did that like a week ago, by the way, to try to keep up with it. All those states are going to be starting to do this. Not just mean more. Not all the states. Yeah. I mean, it's honestly, you don't think Texas is going to do something like that. They fit right in. Well, Texas already did that when they gave the death penalty. That's not true. Because the whole reason why Quinn, you were his went to Ohio state was because he could not monetize himself as a high schooler in Texas. So he went to Ohio where he could. No, but I'm just saying that Texas, but Texas, they've used state laws to fuck. Sure. But they don't have this yet. They don't have this yet. There's there's multiple stories of guys having to leave to get that first year of NIL before they return. All right. Yeah. So Missouri, a team that Colby's made us very fond of Mr. Eli Drinkowitz over the years. Taught. What's your nickname for? What do you call them on your show? You got a name from you. It'll come to you six and six and two in the conference, 10 and two overall. Put out some first, some talent in the NFL draft, one of which we, we got a little, little action on the defensive rookie of the year. This year, like I said, respect nine and a half wins in the S a C plus one 45 to the over minus one 80 to the under. So similar to Mississippi state, pretty heavy adjustment. If you factor in the juice 16 to one to win the conference, plus one 85 to make the playoff minus two 30 to miss the playoff 38 to one to win the national championship. It is, it has turned into a sneaky spot in the SEC in terms of a road spot. We just did the, so well, we got some other episodes coming. We were talking about stuff, right? Well, no, we didn't talk. Yeah. It's in the future. Well, my point, I made a case on one of those episodes. You're going to make a case in the future. Yes. On, on, on how I said not every SEC school plays as challenging as a big 12. There are some that play way more challenging than the big 12 schools. This is one, I think you can argue that there's several big 12 schools that are essentially have harder schedules than this. I mean, their first four games, that is tasty star for them. Now, Missouri, 88 yards per game positive and SEC play, but they had four net close wins, four net upsets plus 11 on turnovers. Like they, I don't know. They certainly played very well, but some of that stuff looks like maybe trending back the other way. And to get to 10 and two with this schedule, how say you call me? Yeah. I think that you should be very optimistic about making the playoffs if you're a Missouri fan, especially with the schedule. But you're right. The one thing that stands out for me, I know NC Nick, my brother loves Missouri this year. He thinks this was a schedule. We're all in. I am not because you look back at last season. If you watch that middle Tennessee game, they almost lost a middle Tennessee. They needed like a 65 yard field goal to beat Kansas state. Came to state. I kind of thought played better than them. And they got, they got, they got, they should have won the game. And then they just, to me, like I expect a little regression, they want a lot of close games to me. I know they beat Ohio State in the ball game, but Ohio State had like 30 guys out. So I don't know coaching. I mean, I think it's a ton of solid job, but I also think you win that many close games. You get that many breaks. I just think, you know, and you no longer have the SCCE schedule, but let's, let's take a look at the schedule. Cause the noncon is a fucking joke. I want to say, I want to say under, but it's maybe a little hard to get to three losses. What's their affiliation here with the Northeast? They got Buffalo Boston college and UMass on the schedule, because they're in Northern Southern school. They're the moat. They're like, they wanted to join the big East or something. They're in the Southeastern conference, but they're quite West and North. Loseable games at Texas A&M, but that's one of the big, that's the biggest game of the season for me. Cause Auburn at home at Alabama. Yeah. I mean, Alabama, there'll be a dog at Alabama. There'll be a dog, a short dog, I think at A&M. But after that, they should be favored in every game. But I think they can, yeah, Oklahoma at home at South Carolina, at Mississippi Oregon, favored in those games. Yeah, I think, I think you got to take the over. I think 10 and two is very realistic. See, but I don't think it's going to happen because I think they were living on the edge too much last year. Seven point win against Memphis. That was another one. I think they'll get, they'll get had somewhere. So I think they, I think I'm, I'm talking out of both ends of my mouth. I agree with you that they probably should have some aggression because they, they were getting by skin to their teeth to some of these games. However, the schedule is so favorable that I'm going to take the plus odds and take the over a nine and a half. It is a very favorable schedule. But like I said, I just, the noncons are too easy. And I think they're, even their in-conference stuff set up decent. The 16th in the country and returning production on the offensive side of the ball, that seems like, they bring in two stud running backs, Nate Noelle and Marcus Carroll too. But I think at A&M at Bama, they lose those two. And I'm going to say either Oklahoma or South Carolina get some. They're going to go nine to three. Really? Yeah. Not sure. Alabama's going to get them. That's the number. Yeah. Uh, I mean, am I short? And I mean, it, I'll be my normally takes care of business at home. All right. I'm on the under. I agree. It's close. This is a tough one. This is one right. It's a great schedule though. You get, you get no one serious in the Nikon. Don't we just play the playoff bet then? Yes. Exactly. The win total. Exactly. Yeah. And, and because at nine and three, they can still get in. And look at that. You, you, you avoid your right. I mean, because you're getting plus one 85 for the playoff. All right. They go nine and three in the SEC. They're like, I, there's probably some scenarios where they don't get in, but if you look at like, and you get a, and you get in 40 cents extra. If you look at who like most people project the top five of the SEC, it's Georgia, Texas, Bama, normally three, Ole Miss four, Tennessee five. They only get one of those five and that's Alabama. Yeah. So, which is, in my opinion, I don't think that I can't like if, if, if the juice wasn't so crazy, like I might consider taking that out because I do think they can, they can win interesting, interesting season coming. I think it's great for the sport though, that Missouri could potentially host a playoff game. Yeah, great. I think that'd be, be very awesome. And even if they got to the SEC championship, because, you know, with these gigantic conferences, it's going to come down to some crazy tiebreakers. I don't even know how they're going to get their selves out of that. Yeah. Does, I know, so wait, what conferences have announced their tie-breaking policies? I don't think any has since the additions of these teams. I think, I think like Mountain West still has the same, but any, like all four, I believe have not, they, I thought, how are we betting on this still? Yeah. Because the tiebreakers in these 16, you know, 18, 17. Yeah. Yeah. Team conferences. How are they're not going to, it would 12 games like mathematically, we're going to have some ties. Did the SEC just release it? Because I know they said they were, they were planning. Right. I got a PDF right here. Obviously conference schedule, or a conference record, first tiebreaker, but even that would be easy to tie. That's what I'm saying, like, especially when they only play eight, they don't even play nine. Yeah. So they're, but let's say the post six and two. What's the next tiebreaker after that? Yeah. I'm looking at it. It does seem like, head to head. Yeah, which they're not going to play Texas, Georgia. This is my point is when you have these larger teams, they're, especially with an eight game conference schedule, you're not playing half the fucking conference. No, I am going, I am going over because here's some, here's how it's going to be broken. So good for them. So basically after you work out the normal, like, Hey, we all played each other. Can we work anything out there? If the teams are still tied, then each team's record against the highest seated team not involved in the tie is considered. So basically your record against the best team. Yeah. So the basically the best team that everyone played that's not involved in the tie. How did you do against that team? Wait, so this is going to be a shit show. If the tie is still not broken, the win, the win loss record against the next highest seated team and, and they don't look at common opponent. I would assume common opponent, right? Well, shouldn't it be all the common opponents? So yeah, that's high as common opponent, but they're saying the common opponent with the best record. They're not looking at all common opponents. They're saying see me the best. See, that's, that's kind of bogus because then you could just have one great win. Yeah. To me, you should look at all of them. The tiebreaker again, that's why I liked. I mean, I'm always going to be talking to some long shots, but the tiebreaker, I think is going to create some, some interesting scenarios and certainly values the dogs because again, to your point Colby, let's say you get that one conference upset and that is what swings a tiebreaker thing. That's, that's a huge difference for these want for getting into the championship 100% and like take this from the way that I read that was that or heard that I should say is. So like, I think Texas A&M who we're going to get to a little bit has a very good schedule too, right? So let's say Missouri and Texas end up with the same record. They're going to look back at that A&M game. Is that the way that I'm because that would be their best win, Missouri's if it goes the way I was foreseeing it. Which, oh, wow. Okay. So, um, on per this, this is, this is, so I think what I found was, was more recent. Um, someone, someone wrote an article saying they hadn't released. No, they were supposed to release it in the, like, like sometime, right around now, they said they were, think, like, uh, so his, his, uh, his model was basically similar, but the, it would take your total victories versus SEC teams that finished with a winning conference record. Why don't just take all of the, I don't understand that because you're trying to have a quality metric, I guess there. Um, and then after that, it would be total conference wins among teams beaten in SEC play. This is, I mean, it's, it's going. I really don't think they considered the complexity. No, this model would have worked. It would have worked with like six back when they had big East and everything. It would have worked with six conferences without like 10 teams each. No, but to your point, they're not playing enough games to just have these, like if you, if you were to turn the SEC, statistically, there's, especially with only eight conference games, the odds that the top two teams are going to get there without tiebreakers. You probably have your conference. Yeah. It's just the, like, yeah, what makes that hilarious though is there, Texas or Georgia, someone's going to get fucked over on this. Like, well, yeah, that's the point. That's the fun part, right? That's Texas. They starts, all of a sudden starts, starts not doing good. They throw a stink. They completely crater the SEC, college football normalizes. We cannibalize the SEC and move on with our ways. So I'm officially on the over Colby and Kramer on the under for Missouri. Yeah, because Colby reminded me they about their schedule one more time. They don't play Texas. That's all I needed here, but, but you would, you would recommend that your clients get the extra 40 cents of juice and take the play off. Stay tuned for the futures bet. Oh, I apologize. Hey, have you got set up under dog fantasy? Man, this week is, they're going big for UFC 303. Let's go. I'm jacked up for UFC 303. You got stone face himself, Alex Pereira. They're going to be running a site wide special. You can take higher half strike. So odds, I would, I'm going to lock up a half strike over the UFC 303 special. Plus they have a, they're doing a special bonus. This is for existing and new customers, the 10% deposit bonus. 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I said give out a digital horse. Oh, okay. Digital horse. Football contest proxy promo code SGP, but again, sign up circus sports.com. I was, I was actually just looking at the stable cause I was going to point at something like Colby always does. Got it. No, Patty C struggling. No, no, no, we, the stable acquired a horse with some athletic potential. And we thought I've been naming the dudes after people in the ecosystem here. And I was like, well, who's the, who had the most athletic potential of all the SGP and employees and Patty C reached arguably reached the highest level. That's, that's true, I think. Do we know of anyone that played at a, played the sport at a higher level than Patty C playing division one college football? I actually think you could argue he also was a kickboxer or yeah, kickboxing, I believe. And he actually kicks some ass in that too. So you, you're saying, you'd say, Patty C is the top athlete at SGP in. Yeah. I mean, when you see him currently or when you see him walk in, you think, peak, peak athletes. Yeah. No, I'm saying at his prime, he was the, he's the best athlete we have. Seems like it. Although Ryan Gilbert, super tall, the giraffe who hosaki gambling podcast. I mean, go be a tough guard. Oh, that's well wise, but I don't think you ever played at division one. I was going to say, do we learn gummy from our MMA gambling podcast? He, I didn't realize he was actually rolled a little bit. He played some MMA. I do like to do. We do know a kick return for the dolphins for a couple of years. Doesn't like to mention it. That's true. We, uh, we like to do this game on the cause of the human joystick, right? Yeah. On the college football experience where we do, who would win the coaching Royal Rumble? So I guess we could do that within our own, current Royal Rumble. Yeah. So we need to get someone put making odds for that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a fun. It's a great piece of content. Yeah. I mean, C J, if we're doing Royal Rumble and you got to get someone out of the ring, C J might be a tough out. J say Mark might be a solid play. He's like gardening and fucking doing all this crazy farming shit. I just think, I just think of physically taking a guy and tossing him out of a ring. J Mark is that high on the list. That's true. That's true. Neither is Patty sick. I don't just maybe hang out in the corner and crack some cold ones and disagree. I feel like Patty sees got some killer inside of him that we don't need to get out. But yeah, I, I would feel pretty. I mean, honestly, I would feel pretty good about Steve. I'm trying to think who I would actually like, cause you know, that's a great question. Even, even when you're old as shit and you're like, no, I can still run fast. But about being like, he's young, man. He's, he wouldn't be my concern. He wouldn't be my, I mean, honestly, like someone like Moneyline back would be the concern. Someone who I know fucking deadlifts every day. And he's still like it is. I think I see the 29 30. So he's still he works. We're past our prime. We need divisions. We need under 40 over 40. I don't need divisions. Oh, all right. I mean, maybe I just came from a very challenging sculpt. Yeah, I will say like this dude is, he's, he's, he stays on a schedule, at least what I was going to the office every day of green, green. You know, he might be an underrated play. My core strengths through the roof. Yeah. I, yeah, I guess there's, there's, there's yoga strength and then there's a Royal Rumble strength. Oklahoma, speaking of Royal Rumble, you heard the great Brian Bosworth on the voice before we started the episode. Oklahoma seven and two in the big 12 last year, just re up to their coach, blanking on his name from Brett from Clemson, who made the holdback guy famous. He's a fucking psycho, but they just gave him a big bag of cash 10 and two last year. I'll be honest. Kind of forget that they went 10 and two last year, seven and a half is the wind total this year. Wow. That feels a little disrespectful. Minus 105 on the over, minus 115 to the under 42 to one to win the conference, 520 to make the playoff, 70 to one to miss the playoff. The big 12 did like, and I'm not saying this because they left, like they did Oklahoma and Texas a few favors like last year in the schedule. Oklahoma's schedule was very, very favorable last year, even coming into the season. I remember thinking like, Hey, this schedule, well, I thought the new schools would be a little bit better, right? I thought BYU would be a little bit better. But if you look back at a season ago, they're 10 and two, but when you really look at it, you know, the schedule was very weak. You know what I mean? Like they had, what was their best performance? The winning Texas. Yeah. But those games are always insane, though, man. Like when you look at everything else, they played a lot of backup quarterbacks, as well as Texas. They, they, yeah, they lost at Kansas, lost at Oklahoma State, should have lost the BYU with their backup quarterback. You know what I mean? So like, I don't know how much weight to put into it. They didn't really get tested. And then they lost it to Arizona on a neutral. And then when they played Iowa State, Iowa State had 30 guys out. So it was like, it was somewhat favorable. That shouldn't be taken away. I mean, look at their, their start of the schedule is Arkansas State, SMU, Tulsa, Cincinnati. They didn't have it. They didn't have a power five in the noncon. So they played three, three group of fives. And then, uh, and then, obviously they got Cincinnati with a brand new head coach in September. They got Matt Campbell, the very next week with 30 guys out, right? And then they beat Texas, which was fantastic. Great win. And then after that, two point win against UCF, lost at Kansas, lost Oklahoma State. So like the best win, honestly, was the West Virginia shellacking. That was like the one thing that I would say is like, okay, that was very impressive. The rest, I don't, and Texas. So Texas and West Virginia. I don't, I just think that 10 and two is a little misleading. So so how about this year? They do have a game against the main black bears. They're joining the SEC and they said, Hey, we got to be like, we got to be like the SEC. Let's schedule a game against Maine in November. They do need to learn though. They do have Alabama on November 23rd. That's the day that's supposed to play to Mexico State. I'll be honest, like this is one where, this is one where I would not argue a big 12. Yeah. Listen to how they finish at Missouri, then they have a late by Alabama at home at LSU. And before that, yeah, they have Maine, but before that it's at Ole Miss and they get Tennessee and they have the Red River shootouts. So you have, and at Auburn and Missouri, who you just said would be a 10 and 10 team. So there's potential. They got almost every good team. On the, who do they miss? A&M is the one team that you would say, okay, but look, well, in Texas, you know, obviously they always play Texas. So and they got at Auburn, you know, what I mean? Like this, they're starting Jackson Arnold, who's who's a highly touted guy. Like this kind of he's going to be in the NFL. The problem is it's, it's, it's baked in the number, right? They were 10 and two last year. They move it down to seven and a half. I'm going to go under because I do think, yeah, seven and five feels right for this team, because there's a lot of losses. All right. So here's the case. And I think, and I think the type of football they play, I don't know if that's going to translate in the SEC. I disagree. I, here's what I would say. They're, they're returning, they're top 10 in returning production on defensive side of the ball. Benables is a defensive guy. If they, if they show up with a physical defense, I guess they don't have to play Georgia. And, and they're able to knock some of these teams around because I do think they're going to be able to handle the physicality of the SEC with that, with that defensive side of the ball, then it becomes Kent, will the offense hit? There's just so many tough games though, man. Like I think they'll be like, do you actually have them favored at Auburn? No, I'm making, I'm making this is the case for them. And I think the schedule is insane for them. Like this is, they got, they got bad luck on this draw because a lot of other SEC schedules are lighter. Like I said, what, what do we rank the top five teams? We, or not we, but I'm saying like the media is saying, uh, one Georgia, two Texas, three, uh, Alabama, four tennis, or Ole Miss, five Tennessee, they got all five of them. No Georgia though. LSU, I forgot to. Yeah. But no Georgia. Yeah. LSU actually would be ahead of, uh, Tennessee, I think they got. Okay. Six of the top. Yeah. I mean, if you looked, if you just broke down there, scheduled by wind total and gave like, and, you know, and factored in that some of these are on the road. This is a brutal. So Oklahoma is laying three against Tennessee at home. They're laying two and a half on the road against Auburn. What? They're, they're favored in both of those? Yeah. I don't. I would not favor. They're catching eight and a half. They're going to lose one of those. They're going to lose one of those in the Red River rivalry. They're catching six against Ole Miss. They're catching three and a half against Missouri. They're catching two at home against Bama. That seems like a bad number. Yeah. I think I, I think the favor, the catching five against LSU to your point, it's going to be, it's going to be tricky. And I, I think what, what sells me is I, like, I've heard people make the case like this defense could be very good. They can be a problem. I just don't trust the coach. If I've learned one thing, don't trust abo assistance. No, thank you. I think, I think the number's right here. I think, I think they're going to be seven or eight, but I'm going to go under two. I'm going to say seven or five. Yeah. The quarterback's got to prove to me. We haven't seen him on the road. You're going to want to, you're going to want to tune into the Oklahoma preview where Colby gives you the good picks. Yeah. He's going to be on there. That's all my SECs are out there. Yeah. Right. And you were on the under. I was on the under. Okay. Yeah. Well, a great acting by Colby cause he was hemming in hall. I think they got the number right. Seven and a half. So that's another, that's another great move. I mean, awesome. You know, these numbers are pretty sharp. Shout out to the books. Just doing great work, hanging really tough. That's the new name for the, the show where we do the forensic file stuff. We just call it they investigate. All right. It's a good pro pronoun. All right. It's Shane Beamer time in the South Carolina game Cox on the East coast. They call this university USC. It was very confusing once I came to the West coast, three and five in conference, five and seven overall, five and a half is the total. Shane Beamer was hot at one point, not because his seat was Hoppe because he was the, the, the doll. Everyone's loving him. Loving what they're doing out there. Spencer Rattler rejuvenated himself, got drafted in the NFL. Sean. And now people are talking like he might be the starter down there in knowledge, five and a half minus one, five to the over minus one, 15 to the under a hundred to one to win the conference, 300 to one to win the national championship. This is another team where I asked why are they not a thousand to one to win the national championship? What are we doing here? This, I like Shane Beamer. And if coach probably wasn't at tech, I'd say maybe it's time for him to come home after he gets fired. Colby, will you be predicting another coach, acting and Shane Beamer here? You know, I'm not, I, yes, I was on, on the team preview I did, but I did predict that he got fired. I just thought he would get fired this year. I'm on the under. And then like a lot of pushback in the comments though, from people close to, to the scene, they said that they're very happy with his development right now. And well, I think, I think he had a great excuse last year. He had a ton of offensive line injuries that really derailed the season. I was high on them coming into the season. And yeah, obviously super disappointing season, but, you know, you could see, I mean, two point loss to Florida. Spencer Rattler made a lot of things go for them last year. I still believe they'll fire him. Like, like sometimes, like people tell me, they've told me this before, you know, I think it was with, with Dan Mullen, and they did it. So like, these are the pushback, like, hey, no, it's actually going, or is it just people being fans and like, hey, no, you're good. No, I think the fact he landed this, this freshman Lenore Sellers is going to be starting. And then like the fact he landed this, they have a guy that is literally like the boat where he is potential to be like, the Bo Jackson of college football at the Titan spot. He's from, he's from what the, what the hell is his name right now? So baby, so Nick Harbor is his name, Google image. Nick Harbor. And that's NYC. What, what is that? He's from Washington, D.C. You're here in the shot. They spelled Nick with a Y now. Not in my mirror. Dude, this guy, this guy runs. He's a track. That's what I'm saying. Like, he's like, this doesn't look like Gronk at all. I see why you're calling him Bo Jackson. Yeah. And yeah, he does. I'm telling you, like, this is a guy that if he hasn't been playing it, show me the shit. Now I'm going to be in on South Carolina. You know, I like awesome ways to get him the ball. But when they go in that photo where he's like 10 times bigger than the other guy. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like he, he, he, they got to find ways to get this guy, the ball, because, uh, but landing him was huge. I think they let they got him over. I don't know. He looks way bigger than the number one big harbor is like a porn star name. With a Y NYC K Harbor. That's, that's a porn name. All right. How do we do it here, Colby? Because I, I'm on the under just because they're starting a freshman quarterback, man. Like, yeah, the Kramer's point, Rattler was kind of the offense. Well, and when you look at their road spots at Kentucky, uh, even though they've had Beamer's had Kentucky's number, it's for a freshman quarterback week two, you don't get a couple of weeks to really get that going. You're going to be in a hostile environment there. I kind of, I kind of think Kentucky can get that done then, um, at Alabama, they will lose at Oklahoma. They will lose at Vanderbilt. Maybe I think they can get that one, but at Clemson, you're asking a lot of a freshman quarterback and then the home games against A&M and Ole Miss and Missouri and LSU. It's just a lot, man. I just think, I, I look at that team and I say, you know, that's at best five and seven, I think I best at best they spring it up. So now I will say that Beamer has, do you think they bring them on to coach prize staff once he gets fired? They could be. But Beamer's upset some teams before. So maybe there's one I'm not seeing. Well, that's what they mean. They've had some moments as a program. I mean, they're wag to back, back to back road spot at Alabama at Oklahoma. Yeah, that's very tricky. They do have the wafer terrors at home. Yeah. That's why you win. Closser at Clemson. Is tough. Wafer's a good Vanderbilt, not a, not a push over spot. I don't know. What are we doing? I'm on the under. Yeah. Kramer making another under. I think I think I got to be on the under. Especially like you're telling me, you're telling me that on October, like if they, after that A&M game or something, that they still could fire a man. This is your four. You know what I mean? Like it's not like he's been knocking it out the park over here. Like maybe he's landed some top recruits. But if you're not winning games, I still think there's a reality, especially if they could get somebody like, you know, if Kramer lock it up under. Yeah. It's unfortunate, but this is another one where it's a simple handicap, but sometimes you just got to look at the schedule. Like imagine Liberty. All right. So maybe they get really hot start and they got a three. Kramer's currently sitting at two overs and 10 unders for the SCC. I mean, it seems like getting to five wins is hard. Imagine Liberty going undefeated again, which there's a high chance they could Jamie Chadwell. That would be back to back undefeated regular seasons. Because Jamie Chadwell was previously at Coastal Carolina in South Carolina. Before that he was at Charleston Southern. Yeah, like he's just a South Carolina guy. So if you're telling me that he's out there and there's a chance that another school could pluck him, I think they fire beamer and go for them. Yeah. I mean, what has been redone for them? He's recruited in the grand scheme of the SEC recruits. Well, I mean, that's the, that's the nuts and bolts of it. So we're all in the under. Yeah, under. Let's go. Tennessee four and four in conference last year, eight and four overall. Nine and a half is the total this year, plus one 30 to the over minus one 60 to the under. 13 to one to win the conference plus one 70 to make the playoff minus two 15 to miss 33 to one to win the conference championship. They just won a baseball championship. Tennessee fans are come on, it's just not going to happen for them. Are they going to bring it back the goal post from the river? That was great. It seemed like an appropriate celebration. Nick Saban still mad about that. That's the thing that started the storm coming. You know that, right? The storm in the court, yeah, it started with this, this, that Bama Tennessee game because the fans stormed the field and made it unsafe for us. Oh, really? Yeah. They complained to the SEC and sank he issued a thing about storming the quarter storming the field, like a gigantic fine. He needs to undo that. This is what that that's not like. I mean, come on, we've gone through this before. All right. So Tennessee has definitely kind of stepped back up in class and certainly the division, they best on a best NIL deal probably in the country or, you know, they, they have their NIL collective together. What was the, what was the words I read to describe the Tennessee collective willing to push up against the barrier? Well, their governor is just along with the government. So basically, so the tax Tennessee is definitely laundering money. Just this might not be selling, selling lab space to Saudi Arabia, but they are definitely investigating all. I think any team that is really trying to push it is, is selling off to hedge funds and private equity. And this is another one where I think it's a very good schedule for the SEC. It's still got challenges, but it's still a very good schedule considering. How many of the top five in Tennessee are good for the conference? Good. Good for Tennessee. They get Georgia and Bama. Those are the two they get from the top five ranked. That's it. Yeah. And they get Bama at home, which I like. I favor attention to win that game. Yeah. So Tennessee fans are definitely going to the river. Look, I think, you know, and even the Oklahoma game is intriguing. Yeah. I think Josh Hypel is one of the national championship. They call it third Saturday in October, huh? Yeah. That's funny. I think keep it simple. Well, they also play and see, I didn't realize September 7th was the Duke Mayo's classic. I didn't realize that had a, well, they're playing the pussy pack, but the pussy pack never showed the game. Mayo had a bowl. I didn't realize they had a classic as well. I would say the only two losses is at Oklahoma. Well, put it this way at Oklahoma, Alabama at home at Georgia, as long as they don't lose all three of those, they hit this over. I agree. And to me, you know, they got this five star freshman that looked really good in the bowl game. And I just think it's a great quarterback. It was Joe Milton. He sucks. Yeah. He sucks. And they were still waiting for. That's the point. I'm with, I think this is like, I think it's an over. I think they're going 10 and smash that. Yeah. I think the only game they're definitely, and they could win at Oklahoma because they're getting Oklahoma in September with that new quarterback. Are the receivers good? Yeah. They are a squirrel white and McCoy's a five star. They've lost that. They see it 13 to one's interesting. At Georgia's the only game they're going to lose for sure. Like, yes, they could lose that Oklahoma. I got them going 10 and two, but the only one that I really see as a flat out loss is at Georgia. But again, like those three tough games, they, if they go one and two, they're still all right. Yeah, lock it up on the over. I like them to make the playoffs too. This is what this is going to fail. Like just put the graphic up where we all pick Tennessee to go over Kramer. It's your first over. You can't, you can't be doubting. I mean, I was shocked to see the plus one 30 for this one. Let's go. I didn't quite understand. And I guess there's, there's, you can, if you didn't like it, you could probably talk who could upset them. It's Arkansas, right? Because the rest aren't like Vandy's not going to be able to upset Tennessee. Well, you just said it. They're starting what? A freshman, but he didn't play in the, he started the ball. So yeah, that NC state game is pretty, pretty dangerous. Well, I think it's a sophomore now, but yeah. Yeah. I don't see if he played last year. Well, I'm just saying he's a young guy. Yeah. Scall me young, but he was the number one. He was a big time recruitment underclass. I'm just saying if you're going to lose your, like is Kent State returning a bunch of old guys? Like that's the kind of situation you don't want to run into a war. Maybe you run into Oklahoma and your face a defense with a lot of experience. But yeah, no, I'm, I think just in general too, like to, like, if, if every game turns into a shootout in the SEC, who wins? Like I think as the league turns into more of a high powered they are a lot like the big, I've been calling them on our show, the new big 12. Yeah. Tennessee already there. New sweet 16. So you look at everywhere. Lebi, Jeff, Lebi at Mississippi state, Lane Tifton runs what Lebi would have installed a shot, shot, shot going on. You got a high school here. And then you add the baller who runs the air raid. Like you're, you're just every team is, is like that for the most part of gimmicks. You know, when I, I'm old enough to remember when the SEC played proper football, George is the only one left the old dynasty. And they're the best. So what does it tell you? Hey, have you guys signed up with rhythm? If not, what are you waiting for? Get that seven day free trial D plays for AI sports picks and props. 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Again, eight and one in the conference of the sweet 16 formerly big 12 last year, 11 and one overall 10 and a half is the wind total this year, plus one 25 to the over minus one 50 to the under plus three 10 to win the SEC in their first season. Wow. Minus two 30 make playoff plus one 85 miss playoff eight to one to win the naddy. I do think it's interesting to me how much Quinn Ewers seems to have been. And again, I don't consume a lot of content. So this might be a horrible take, but Quinn Ewers, you can assume a ton of content getting swept up or not exactly being included in the class of the quarterbacks this year from what I can tell. I understand he's in the odds, but like when I listen to NFL content, talking about the next class of quarterbacks, Quinn Ewers is not being looked at first and foremost. I hear a lot of Carson Beck, for example. So I'm intrigued to see the season. What happens? They're obviously in a plus EV situation. I mean, he's second in Heisman. So I think you don't think he's getting any hype. And the, I mean, it's just an NFL thing. I don't know. I just, it does. Is he draft eligible? Yeah. Yeah. We could have gone out last year. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, remember, he went to Ohio State like four years ago. It is. He is 21. But yeah, I mean, you want to like be completely objective. Like this team has, I mean, they could have the best quarterback in the conference. They definitely have like Tennessee, another team where it's like, well, all right, if every game turns into a shootout, what happens? Well, Texas probably ends up near the top of the table more than they don't. The problem is they're Texas and they're joining a new conference and nothing goes right for them. And Texas isn't going to have success in their first year in the SEC, right? I'm skeptical. Kramer, if you had a guess, what do you think Quinn Ewers major was or is? Some sort of like sports, physical therapy. Yeah, but it's a hilarious name. Physical culture and sports. What the hell does that mean? Physical culture and sports sounds like just sex. Like physical culture. Is that going? Any class online classes? Yeah, that's Matthew McConaughey. You want to, you want to go back to my room and just get naked and pound your checks with Matthew McConaughey. Experience physical culture, physical culture and sports, explore sports and exercise through humanity's social science approach. This program includes coursework and philosophy and ethics, sports law, sports history, the history of physical culture and race and gender issues in sports. Hire whoever wrote that. I want that guy to work for me. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like I understand that study abroad opportunity. The chances were actually getting a study abroad in Denmark. Well, yeah, you, you fuck all over the world with Matthew McConaughey takes you to Amsterdam, Australia, Singapore. Epstein Island. Oh, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Matthew. I was joking. I don't think Matthew. I don't think you went either. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would ever need to get an airplane. But I never thought Chris Tucker would be there either. Yeah, but like Matthew McConaughey specifically doesn't seem like he would need to get on an airplane for sex. Agreed. Like a lot like Matthew McConaughey. A lot of people on the low, even though he's a long horn, a lot of people on the list able to get the sex because they have the money. Matthew McConaughey, slightly different. He seems like he was getting sex before he had the money. You probably did all right for himself. What do you think Texas obviously should be good, but they're scheduled. The, the, the wind total being 10 and a half. My favorite thing. You can't slip up much. Well, yeah, I, guys, I mean, I, I know we did the, the visa and spot. I love the under and a lot of it has to do with the defensive side of the ball. Like they did a great job in the portal, bringing in talent at the, their offensive line is one of the best. If your offense is going to be insane and getting Silas Bolden from Morgan State and Isaiah Bond from Bama, like, and knee black from Bama. Like they're, they're going to fly on offense, but they lost two first round receivers and it probably doesn't matter. Yeah. But where it does matter is they lost two defensive tackles drafted in the top 40 picks in the NFL. Yeah, D line's going to be their secondary was asked last year, right? They were in the bottom 15 as far as the fairness. One of those D tackles was supposed to be like a seventh round pick, but someone just way, like the Titans, I think just way over drafted him in the second round. Well, still, like, like the defensive side of the ball was, I mean, Washington exploited the fuck out of them. And I will still bring up the fact they played seven back on quarterbacks last year because I think they would have lost more games. They would have lost more games. They would have lost a Houston had the first down spot would have been accurate. I love this play as far as the under, but I like it even better for them to not make the playoffs. Just hear me out. I'll talk about that in a minute, but their schedule has, you know, obviously they play at Michigan who has a very good defense. That game, I would probably favor Texas by a tiny bit, but the Red River shootout is always crazy. I know Oklahoma got them last year, but Oklahoma has a tendency to win that game. If you look at like the past 15 years, Oklahoma wins that majority of the time, it's close for sure. Then you have Georgia the next week. To me, there's no way you're not losing one of those, right? There's no way they're going to win both. Well, cause if they win, if they beat Oklahoma, I mean, that is going to be tough to get up for Georgia the next week. Yeah. So you still have that Michigan game out there and then don't sleep on the old school rivalry of them and Arkansas or at Texas saying it. Well, yeah, that one's the big one, but yeah, I think the Arkansas ones tricky too. Arkansas is one, I think five of the last seven against Texas and when in doubt, I'm fading teams that are making a debut in a different conference. We've seen it. So I mean, we saw last year a bunch of those teams. I mean, what was there one team that went into a new conference last year and played really well? No, I know. I mean, we don't typically see teams at this level. Yeah, I guess historically, this is pretty rare air, but if it's close, I mean, you would, I'm going to look to see them. Yeah, it's, you see it at the lower levels. Teams come up and have success early. Yeah. I mean, all of what you guys said, plus you sprinkle in a little road game against Michigan seems pretty easy to find. Like if they lose that Michigan game, but you're on the over, right, Ryan? I want it to be. I wanted to be because I knew Colby was going to have one over in this episode and you have two on the SEC. I'm not, I'm not super high on the SEC. And I think there's a lot of inflated numbers here. I do kind of want to be contrarian because this Texas team did go into Alabama and win in a, in a tough spot. Steve Sarkey. I do think to be fair though, Mill row was not developed and saving did a great job developing them through the season, but you're right. Texas was certainly the better team. I just think like for all the, the favors you want to say, like this also is potentially going to be a very good team, very good offense. Yeah, I just think their schedule is harder than like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I think they're better than my prediction is that they miss the playoffs because their schedule is harder than the other ones. And I think this is what's going to cause outrage because I think Texas A&M is going to beat them on the final game of the season. And I think Texas A&M is going to have the same record. It does feel like you could see them being nine and three and bitching about and I can be in the playoffs going to be nine and three and they're going to have to put A&M. You know what I mean? Like you're going to, you're going to have to put A&M. A&M's got a very favorable schedule under it's going to be close though. Ten and two seems right. All right. Next up, Texas A&M, which again, love a good parade, four and four in conference, seven and five overall great schedule. This schedule is incredible. They, they've got to be so pissed. Their baseball coach spit in everyone's face and went to go coach at Texas. Eight and a halfs, the wind total, minus one 15 on the over, minus one, oh five on the under 21 to one to win the conference. 45 to one to win the national championship to plus two 90 to win or to make the playoff minus three 85 to miss. This is my favorite play. We love this coach. This is my favorite play because he was just there. He went, spent two years at Duke, but he was their defensive coordinator and for four or five years or three or four years, whatever he recruited a lot of these guys. Yeah. He came in right away. He just, he always strikes me as a guy with the plan. He knows like the first time that he took over a Duke team that was horrible the year before. And instantly, I remember watching, I think they played temple in the opener. And then the very next game was Northwestern. And then after that, you're like, his team is super fucking prepared. And he has no talent on this team, right? Like, he took a team that was shit and Duke and Texas A&M have a different recruiting budget. That's A&M's got these classes that were fire. I think A&M you could argue has the best defensive line in college football with him walking into it. He's a defensive master. And they lost some big, big bag five star guys. Yeah. Walter Nolan told him this, but what's it called there? Connor Wegman is a very underrated quarterback. I think as long as he stays healthy, I think you're going to hear, be here, but hearing about him and NFL draft boards. Well, he stuck around. There's a road schedule is manageable. Their schedule is incredible. Look, their road records are all against teams with losing records from a season to go Florida. Auburn's their only tough road game. Yeah. And they were still six and seven last year. So, but I do think that is a fair. That's one of the sleepy spots because there's going to be so much anticipation for that Texas game. I do think Auburn's going to get them. Yeah. But the only other, to me, the, like the huge game there is the Missouri game on October 5th. They've handled their own against LSU, whether it was, you know, they just went at home against LSU historically. So I, I think that's a good spot. They don't play Georgia. You don't play Bama. You got to play playing Arkansas and Jerry rules are always tricky because you know, there's some cheating. Those games are always wild, but they've had their number. They've had Arkansas's number, but somehow they win like 28, 27 every time. It is fun to watch when Arkansas loses that game. It's funny when they cut to Jerry and he's just sitting there looking half dead. And I like the Notre Dame spot because he was just Riley Leonard's head coach for two years. He knows his weakness. We already bought this one. Wow. Let me pull up the number. We, this was one you identified early. Oh, they, they, they, they took the game in the year number down. How great is that fucking Texas game going to be though? If I'm right about this and Texas has two losses and A&M has two losses. Can you imagine that fucking game, dude? A&M Notre Dame is a pick them right now. Yeah. I'll jump. I like I'm seeing an M lay in a point. Okay. There you go. But can you imagine if that, if that's the game? A&M against Texas in college station. You know, they haven't played in forever. That rivalry means so much for what I can tell. There's a little bit of a little, little brother aspect. So the A&M side will be way more into the, it seems like they're way more into the rivalry. I think. Yeah, probably, but I think whatever happened when A&M went to the SEC, like 15 years ago, that created some sort of, it just seems like Texas is like, I don't care about you. Dude, that game is, I think if I had to rank like the game you want to watch most all year, it's that. Yeah. People would say Ohio State, Michigan losses too. Like that A&M team last year wasn't. Dude, they're super talented. They got guys. They're receiving court. They have motion. Muhammad's son at wide out. They got a couple other guys for gaming in the SEC. I think, yeah, I mean, eight and a half, I guess, is there a high for a head coach in a new situation, but it feels like he's going to hit the ground running. And what do we talk about? Who never plays Jim Oh, Jim Oh, a guy perpetually, literally under delivered. He's a black hole. But what, what do we say? They they kind of be black. They don't get Georgia. They don't get bama. They don't get Ole Miss. They don't get Tennessee. No, the road schedule is crazy too. Yeah. I mean, listen at Florida, when at Mississippi State, when at South Carolina and Auburn, I mean, Auburn, Auburn's going to get them. Of those four games, I think they lose one, maybe two. And then they drop a home game. Yeah, 10 and two. I don't even, I think, I think they lose one road. Yeah, maybe one home thrown it out. Yeah. I got them. Like I said, nine and three, nine and three, they beat Texas. So both teams are nine and three to end the season. A&M is the tiebreaker. A&M's in. They might go 10 and two though, have Missouri games, everything. But if I just think it would be hilarious, if they beat Texas in that game, and then you really would have a hard time justifying putting Texas in. All right. So LSU, Georgia and A&M in Tennessee, it does seem like there's some value in this A&M conference price at 21 to love it. Because to your point, I like them to make the playoffs. Wegman it like that. Well, I, I think he's a toolsy draft guy. And if he takes, he stuck around, he's been in the same system. He's now got a coach that's not a complete dipshit. Love the offensive coordinator. Higher of Colin Kline from Kansas state. He's super creative with his run packages. Just just walk, go back and look what Duke did right away last year. Oh yeah. In on A&M might as well take Duke also. What made a ton of money? So say no more Mike Elko. I think the best thing you can say about him is he's like, they almost hired Mark Stoops over him. And I thought, wow, how are they going to fuck this up? Because the guy seems so damn prepared. Yeah. I think when you've watched A&M forever, really, and they, their teams never look prepared. You know what I mean? So it's like, this is the perfect guy for you. Last thing I'll ask, do you take the eight and a half over or just take the playoff at plus? That's what I'm saying. I love the playoff. They go nine and three. Are they make? Are they missing the playoff? Well, if they lose the Texas, yes. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be a tiebreaker. Yeah. Yeah. But there's committee, but I also think like that's their floor, but there's a committee. What's their floor? The floor to me is nine and three. Yeah. It is tough to find. It's going to be hilarious. The committee picking those last seven teams. No, it's just so crazy. So enraged. No, I'm going to love it because of the outrage. It's no longer at the small schools. No, you're going to have major, major, major alumni. Some, some big teams are going to go to Tennessee or Texas. One of those two. Yeah. Yeah, or A&M one of it. Like what if A&M beats Texas and they put Texas in? You know, man, A&M fans would be so, so unruly. All right. They're going to expand right away. Yeah. I love that. If you're keeping track at home, that's two overs from me so far. These assholes who sit in here and make fun of me. Sean has three overs on the episode and Colby has two overs. So looks like we're all looking at the other part of the conference. Well, they can go listen to part one. We don't want to ruin what I picked for if they haven't listened, but yeah, I took some unders in that one too. Thanks for spoiling it. Vanderbilt. AKA the, the one Illuminati school in the SEC. I think they keep them around to do the books. It's like a Shawshank. Oh, and eight in the conference, two and 10 overall. So they don't even sweep up in the noncon. That's how bad they are. Sean, this is the lowest total in power football, two and a half, two, two and a half, minus one to 85 to the over plus one 50 to the under. So it does adjust up to almost three and a half, lock this up. What do you even know Diego pissing Palmia? Yes. Yes. New Mexico, New Mexico state. I was talking to Colby basically just brought their whole team. Yeah. Got him. Got him in Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah. It does feel like it's probably some sort of Jerry kill fucking chemistry classes, learn how to make math, go back to New Mexico state. It's going to be breaking bad 2.0. So you're going to lay minus 185. Dude. Yes. They're starting out. I mean, Ryan, you're talking a lot of shit. I didn't mark this because week one. Oh, yeah, fuck you at home. I guess it's going to win by 21. Nobody goes into the construction zone and it gets a dump. All right. Bring your heart hat. You got your little lunch pail bullshit. Bring it in there. They're showing they, they're building the same type of elevated floor on their football stadium as they have for their basketball court. Do you guys know about this though? Diego Pavi was like the state wrestling champ too. What does that have to do with the fucking gamer? He pissing, he'll piss on your fucking low. This is the worst thing you guys might start out three and they got the worst. They got the push over Hokies at home. Are you? They got Alcorn state? They are at Georgia state. Georgia state just lost their coach. Like in, in April or if you lay or whatever, it was late in March. He left for South Carolina and they got the fall state card. 95% of their, I think they can get South Carolina. Shane Beamer might be fired by then. You guys are losing your mind. I'm, I'm all over this over here. So you think this team's going to come out and beat the Hokies. They beat Kentucky at the last time they, they won in Lexington last time they played in Lexington. So you though, what do you think they go 10 and two? No, I do, I do think of the overs definitely hitting though. And I actually do think if I was Virginia Tech, I'd be a little scared of that game. Do they win a conference game? I think so. I think they get what so they run in the same offense in New Mexico state. So it's not like Pavi is learning a new offense. They brought in the OC. They brought in the head coach, Jerry Kiel. They brought in like, I think three other coaches. He's also not learning the SEC. He wouldn't want to know against the SEC last year. He beat Auburn at Auburn by double digits. I think he's a gang. This, this, I'll be honest, Sean. Yes. This does feel like the classic. You, you, I wasn't around. You started talking to Colby about a team and next thing you know, you're on, we got season tickets. Hold me that. Pour me that Vandy Kool-Aid. See the, the, the construction said, I mean, you know, it was a construction fest to get season tickets. Yeah. You walk on if you, they say if you work a shift, you get season tickets. What did you do? What was light, light crane, not the heavy crane, the light one on the light crane and move some pallets. All right. So 50 bags of cement. Let's just say they don't load a beat Virginia Tech or Georgia state. Where are they getting the Georgia state Georgia state? They lost. They, they, all right. So they're two and one going into the, the beginning of their, their comment. Yeah. And then they got ball state. Yeah. I actually think they could get Kentucky or South Carolina. They got Kentucky the last time they went to the Lexington. I mean, I, I'm not pausing because I'm considering what you, they're 12 and a half point dogs to Virginia Tech. I can't find it. I'll take the points all day. I'm serious though, man. I know you're a Hokey fan, but I actually think Vanderbilt's going to give them a game. And I think that game is going to be very, a lot closer than people think. And I think Vanderbilt can win that game. I actually like the fact that they're stadiums under construction. So all the Hokey fans can't fucking pack it. And that same goes for their other home game against South Carolina. I think normally like the away team kind of makes it their own home stadium and that they're not going to have the luxury of doing that with this thing under construction. He's slipping. He's slipping. Do you still want to hold that over? Oh, I'm, I'm already, I already got my Vandy gear coming. Diego Pavia has proven way more on the football field than Kyron Jones. I can't. I don't even have words to respond. Yeah. Well, watch fucking college football. I'm just going to poke post drone strike memes. When they went 55 to 10. Oh, you're crazy. You're fucking crazy. Dude, this Virginia Tech teams returning everyone. You're crazy. This in the Mexico state team is now Vanderbilt. That's fine. New Mexico state. I don't give a shit. 10 games last year, uh, Damani in the chat saying, uh, per two four seven talent composite Virginia Tech and Vandy are 58th and 59th respectively talent. He just thinks, he just thinks they're just going to destroy Vanderbilt. You know what? Whoever wrote that in the chat. They probably were probably fucking playing mad. They think they can just put numbers together and that makes a team. This is my whole thesis. Yes, it was a zero star. You, you can't take a kid running around the slums of New Mexico state and then bring him into the fine wine of Vanderbilt and expect him to just assemble. Where does Virginia Tech get off being a 12 and a half? I know, wrote his favorite shot. What program was I watching? I don't know when you're going to guys got to unload some fridges. I'm going out to Vegas. He's going to be, he'll probably see some heavy stuff lying around the job site and be like, Oh, cement wasn't supposed to be here. I don't think it's wheelbarrel. I had distracted. I was repeatedly roll bullied money line, money line play. I was repeatedly bullied by, uh, you and other members of the visa and staff about the Virginia Tech bowl game last year. I said, fuck you. They're winning by three touchdowns. Too late. Didn't have their coaching. One by three touchdowns. When you told me that Virginia was going to give them a game. I said, fuck you. They're going to roll 50 up on those bitches. Virginia's not good. Five. They rolled up. Look what happened. They lost by 30 to Louisville. All right. They got waxed by Marshall. I'm not doing this right now. We're not doing this right now. Some of us are holding, holding you. We are. What do you call Marshall Colby? The clearance rack. Wow. Martin. I mean, they need a good. That is a good one. No one goes into the clearance rack. It's a great deal. No one goes into the blue light special. Yeah. You go to Marshall's, you come out with a deal and some clothes with seams that are slightly off. All right. Let's, uh, you want to lock up and future Kramer, what he got. And for those counting at home, two overs in this episode and two overs, the previous episode. So come on. Four overs, 12 unders for the S, perfect, perfect. Right on pace. All right. For the locks. Mm. I was eight native people are at one. I mean, just walk right off the cliff with all the other lemmings, Sean. Cool. Texas A&M over. Yeah. We got too excited for Mike Elko. What's your other lock? Tennessee over. Whoa. And both my overs up. Okay. Future. I mean, I think it's just, I'll, I'll just stay in the realm of the A&M to make the playoff. One seems, I mean, I'm definitely going to play the A&M and Tennessee conference futures, but the Texas A&M to make the playoff plus 290. Love it. That might be the best playoff odds I've seen across all the teams. Love it. All right. For me, I will lock up Texas A&M over a half as well. This is interesting. Do like going with consensus plays and Texas under 10 and a half. It's just, it's just too damn high. The rent is too damn high. The Texas win total to damn high, giving Texas A&M to win the SEC at 21 to one. Come on. Yeah, I'm going to close the live dog. Colby. Yes. I agree. A&M over eight and a half is a lock. Oh no. Jesus. Colby in a copy of my picks again. I like, well, you know what? I have three locks in this. I would invite you to come for a third lock. Vanderbilt over. Yes. Vanderbilt over two and a half wins. And then the Longhorns horns down under 10 and a half wins. I'm adding Vandy. Let's go. Add Vandy throw Texas under on my third law. Call me. Do you have a future? I do. And I think Kramer spot on with it. It's A&M to make the playoffs plus 290. Love that. I do think A&M. Yeah. And for the gamblers out there that my SEC to win the conference play for Texas A&M. That's fun. I've said like 14 times. I'm also betting. I don't see it on the sheet. I don't see it on the sheet. Add Tennessee to win the conference too. Well, you're out. Wow. Okay. So we're just picking every team and the C S C thirteen hundred. Hey. Kramer acts like he can't add stuff to the sheet. These sheets that he makes. These are hand crafted quality sheets we're talking about roles and responsibility to good. Good reason to join the patreon. Get access to all these sheets and little spoiler alert. The episodes that are coming out sheets already filled out. So getting early early. Look. I may have hit the tab. So, okay. Nevermind. Forget that. I'll, I'll unhide them now that you've said the patreons wanted. Yeah. We got the Jimbo Fisher forensic finals bonus episode looking forward to taping that. We got visa Friday nights. 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The guys (@GamblingPodcast) begin their NCAA Football Conference Previews with the SEC Conference. They're joined by Colby Dant (@TheColbyD) from The College Football Experience as they give their college football betting preview for the SEC conference including Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and more. We preview college football team win totals for the SEC teams as well as player props, futures and more.
