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I'm going to get your fucking shine. Welcome everyone to the sports gambling podcast. I'm Sean second. I'm going to agree with my partner and picks Ryan real money Kramer. What's happening Kramer. Sean. Yeah. Football is officially started football. We do this bit. I have a whole league but I've I've started officially prepping for college. We'll be doing a lot of college previews this week officially started organizing for NFL team previews. So basically the summer is gone and football season. This is this is fabulous football here. We already dropped our top 10 fantasy football tight ends and top 10 fantasy football quarterbacks. Those episodes already out there. Make sure you check those out if you missed them. May have to. Yeah. I was going to see you. Yeah. Go ahead. I didn't want to take your line there. We might have to do some changes. I showed you show me a video. I'm not plugged in. I showed my wife showed me Travis Kelsey making his debut at the era's tour. He's in a tuxedo. He's dancing. He's memorizing choreography ride. I thought they were going to have the nose to the grind. What do you mean? Exes and O's? Yeah. Place. Well, you know, staying in shape. Well, keeping that dad bod tight in the off season. I may have to I may have to fade Travis Kelsey after this. Clearly a distraction. Is it? Oh, yeah. 100%. What? I mean, there are alternatives. He could just be drinking beer and not dancing his ass off. He didn't look like he was dancing that hard. He's, he's wearing a tux. He's on vacation, dude. She was probably like, Hey, you want to be part of my show tonight? And he's like, yeah, it is funny. Like he goes shit. I guess I gotta say yes. He is like a Taylor Swift fan. Like he just loves rocking out the Taylor Swift. It's I would imagine there is some element. Like mega stars tend to have a certain level of charisma. A guy like Travis Kelsey doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. And so it's it's classic witchcraft scenario where he's just locked in a trance, Sean. So are you will any official breaking news here? Are you dropping Travis Kelsey? And see to me, this is a positive. Really? Yeah, you're moving them up. Travis Kelsey's a guy who likes to drink beer and hang out at a pool. So he's getting dragged around Europe. He's probably staying fit, walking around, having to stay on his neck and let him, you know, it's probably personal chef meal plan. Yeah, he's he's nutritionist. I you think it looks good for her to be dating someone with a dad bod. Travis Kelsey's officially got it. He's got a private trainer that's not issued by the Chiefs. My wife goes, Hey, it's just like the one time you helped me with my flash mob. My wife had a flash mob that bombed. Well, it was so her plan. You also were dancing in the off season. No, no, I was that dancing. She gave me the, I had the role of a sound guy. So this is supposed to happen on Hollywood Boulevard. I roll up. I look kind of homeless. See was what the description was for the casting character. She's like, yeah, you can just, you can hang out, kind of look rough and tumble and just wear your beanie. I'm like, wait, my good Eagles beanie. And she's like, yeah, you know, apparently it gave off a homeless vibe. But I was supposed to like just be hanging out and then just roll out the audio equipment. And then my wife and her friends did some flash mob dance. But it was, did it work? I mean, they danced, but it wasn't like all the videos on the end. I think in her mind, all lookers were going to stop and be like, Oh my God, what is this? This crazy? I mean, it's Hollywood. So no one gave a shit. Unfortunately. Yeah, it's that whole, it's that meme where it's like what they think they look like versus what they actually look like. I feel like the videos of the me or the mobs that you see are never actually recreated. Yeah. I mean, I don't mean, I don't mean to be cynical, but I think a lot of those are staged. Really? Yeah. Where? Yeah. I would say I would guess they're probably, what are you going to tell me next? Reality TV is not real. It's not real, Ryan. It's still real to me. Hey, we're going to get into a little underdog, a basketball draft. But before we do that, we're going to bring on our buddy, Lante Smith, talk a little NBA draft props joining us on the line from the NBA gambling podcast as well as the MLB gambling podcast. Look at that amazing hair. Lante just showing it off. Look at all that hair, Ryan. That's nice. I'm jealous. I wish I had a full out of hair like that. Lante NBA draft is happening. How we feeling about the NBA draft? Look, man, it's always an exciting time for me. I mean, I start doing this stuff probably like six months in advance, six hours in advance. So I'm already like, I'm already tired and ready to move on to the next best place. I've been going through these guys for a while. But unfortunately, we don't have a big menu like they do the NFL draft, but it's gotten better. But yeah, not as much, not as much as to choose from, I would say. Well, man, I'm excited for it. Yeah. Let's start with it. Number one pick overall. Who do you got? I mean, because sometimes, obviously with the NFL, it was a Fortagon conclusion. Some doubt it would be Caleb Williams, but it was pretty obvious it was going to be Caleb Williams. Number one overall pick. They left the odds on the board for a while. I'm just saying. Who do you, who do you have going number one overall? I got clean getting going. Number one, man. A lot of people had a lot of people has saw going forward. I guess it was a consensus the past month or so, but clean and went in. He had a good workout. It was being told that it was being like reported and, you know, rumored around that they love him in the building. I think they gave him a second workout that they weren't planning on giving him. His eyes were plumbed in throughout the process. I think he started at maybe like 80 to one. And I grabbed some 20 and 25, but now he's down to like around anywhere from like 180 to 220, I think in between that range. But I think cleaning goes one, man. I mean, if they're looking for a big, he's a big who can move block shots. Obviously he's got championship pedigree with the UConn. He's been coached really good. And Quinn Snyder has some success with another big who was, I would say, offensively challenged. Now I'm not saying that, you know, that clean is going to be really good there, but he has some of the same similarities as far as the way he plays defense. So I think he can be a good piece there. Now he's not going to be a sexy big, you know, to celebrate, but I think it'll be he'll basically impact winning more than any of those other guys at the top. The NBA, or at least the sector of the NBA fans that like the off season more than the actual game. I mean, this, this is an all time draft for them, just a shit on the prospects. Hey, hey, no, this is a horrible NBA. Imagine if the NBA, imagine if the bachelor had nothing, but like just meth chicks. That's what we're dealing with here. As the kids say, well, it does seem like though, just kind of observing the market. Yeah. Why is clinging like it seems like the money is coming in on him, but he's not the favor. Yeah, he's plus two 30 right now. Zachary Riss, how do you pronounce his last name? Risa Shay. Risa Shay is the favorite. You don't, you don't like Risa Shay to go number one. You like the clanging at plus two 30. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do like it. I mean, Risa Shay is, he was like one of the top three consensus picks like way back in like November, December, which is a lot of uncertainty at the top. And I think if it's a lot of uncertainty, a lot of smokescreens giving out to different people. Landry Fields as who was the GM for Atlanta is kind of floating around the idea that they want to keep the pick. And it's other, it's others who like report with Atlanta, like inside the organization, who like around them all the time, who say anyone to trade the pick. So I think it's all different kinds of smokescreens and a dynamically get thing could be a smokescreen as well, you know, to kind of, you know, get people to stay away and maybe try to trade up to get him. And then they can go back down and get Risa Shay with additional picks. So I mean, it's all a, it's all just of what you kind of believe in. And I think in a draft of uncertainty, you got to take a long shot. I mean, we saw with Brandon Miller and Scoop. I think you had that right, Sean. Yeah, you will get a few people who had that right. And everybody was saying, everybody was saying Scoop. Everybody was saying Scoop. So, I mean, you never know. And I think uncertainty, you got to go big. So I think clinging at plus to anything over two to one is a pretty good bit. I go, Sean, who do you want to have on for the draft? He goes latte. No, no, no, even no pause. And now I know why I understand why. Yeah, I know this was a pre orchestrated situation. We'll do some number one talk. But of course, you know, I can give me my flowers. You're like Trump signing that $20 bill for the kid with a wig on his head. I did not see. I can only imagine a young child wearing a hilarious Trump wig, Trump stopped stopping what he was doing to create a scene as he signed a $20 bill. Also, you're Donald Trump signed a $100 bill. What the fuck? Come on. No $20 bill should be walking around with some hundo's probably counter. Kramer signs, $100 bills and big. Oh, yeah. We will. We will happily autograph any $100 bills. I will sign any denomination of money. But if I'm giving it to someone, it's not. It's either going to be a $100 bill or a $2 bill. Oh, okay. There you go. There you go. Latte, any other what's another pick? Well, we're real quick about the Frenchman. Now, what we have one good, good, long skinny French guy. And so now we can forget about all the other failed long skinny French guys. I mean, there has to be a little bit of that to me. I love the clinging bet. It seems like there's a lot of versions of the story where he does end up going one. And why does the NBA keep doing this with these French guys? When we started something, man, it's a bunch of French guys in this draft. And it's going to be a bunch more coming in next year. So they loaded up. French has loaded up. Take it. This is, this is some sort of redemption for the war of 1812. Maybe I don't know. revenge. Kramer, our long tape. What do you like? What's another, what's another pick you got here for the NBA draft? Give people a couple, a couple of little spicy plays here. Yeah, man. So I like Devin Carter a lot in his draft. I'm, I'm on him to basically, like I'm loaded up in Devin and Devin Carter prop. So if he goes below like 10, I'm probably going to be homeless. And that's the case. But if you can find Devin Carter drafted before Dalton connect, that's plus one team. You can find that around. I think it's a high, I think it's a high ceiling that Carter goes above any other prospect who in that lottery range, who people think is not going to go as high. So him and Cody Williams are the two guys that I think will go higher than is expected. And Devin Carter, I mean, pro played at Providence in the Big East, small guard, can shoot it. He was coming in as the second best player. Bryce Hopkins was actually the first, the best player on the team towards ACL. Devin Carter ascends. I think he's third in rebounding in that conference. So he's a, he's like a dog. All the things you want in a player. He fits that. So I think him being drafted before connect is pretty much as close as you can get to a lock. And if you want to lay a little juice here, Ryan and Kramer men, Ryan and Sean. Yeah, drafted to be drafted top 10 minus one 40. I would, I would lay a nice price. I would lay a nice price. Yeah. If you just go, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, I'm seeing Carter plus one 10 versus connect minus one 40. So it's funny. We have Dalton Kincaid on the graphic. But yeah, I mean, it is worth mentioning you don't often see the guy, like the NBA is just the five star guys, not the guy from North Dakota who like grinded his way into an NBA situation. So yeah, I certainly could see him maybe falling a little bit in the draft. Well, can I ask a question? Sure. Zach Edie. I'm seeing him a lot of mocks have him going 17. It seems like the total is 16 and a half or 15 and a half. That's a, that's a nice number for Zach Edie. He's, he's going over for sure. Right. I'm still laying the minus one. If I'm looking at it right now, I clicked it. It's in the cart minus one 50 for 80 to go over 16 and a half. Is that, is that the play? I like it under. I like, I like him. I like him to go 12. Yeah. You can get 12 and one on that, man. I mean, it's just, just basic to me is I think that he has a, it's a certain type of team that has to take him. And I think Oklahoma City fits all the criterias. They have basically the least, the, the least to lose. Like they can just pick him here. And if he's like a bust or whatever, then it's just, you know, it's whatever because they got a thousand more picks. If he hits, he can play in spurts beside chip, rim protect, allow chip to kind of roam around. So that makes sense there. I mean, they need a big, but I do think if he doesn't go to OKC, then he does fall a little bit further. I mean, Toronto could be a, obviously it's like, I mean, he's from Toronto. So, you know, you can kind of make that period. But the Lakers, I think a lot of another team that give me Zach Edie versus wemby. I want to see some one-on-one battles there. Zach Edie in Utah, I think makes a ton of sense. Culture wise, it feels like Canada and Utah kind of similar. Mine is minus the love of beer that Sean's opinions are his own. You don't think you don't know, but it snows a lot. Yeah. I mean, that snows a lot of places. Snows in Russia too, Sean. Yeah. Not, not quite the same as Canada. Lante, we have to talk Bronny James. I mean, he's got his own tab here on some of the sports books. All the sports books. I'm seeing what team will take for any James Lakers minus one 10 sun seven to one. Those are the only teams where Bronny worked out for or the only teams that worked Bronny out. He couldn't get on the court for USC. What the fuck are we talking about? Yeah. What, what do you make of Bronny James draft? And is there, is there any way to make some money off this? Man, I think, I mean, honestly, to be fair to him, I mean, I think he was kind of like built a bad hand as far as I thought he should have stayed. Oh, yeah. Poor guy having the broad chains as his dad. Oh, I'm just speaking of graduation standpoint. Like, he almost died, right? Yeah. And then he didn't play. So I thought I would be better for him to just not play at all and just go off of the, you know, the hype of him coming out of high school, being on the Bronx kid or whatever. But I mean, obviously he didn't play well. Whatever the case may be, you know, this, this is clear nepotism. Obviously we all can, we all can just say that. But I mean, if he was, if he was Bronny Green, would he be drafted? Honestly, next next kid, take the, take the Manning approach, send them somewhere where he's not going to play because there's someone better. And yeah, I don't know why what LeBron's doing here. Because if he really wants the best for his kid, he would, he would have stoned away Duquesne for another season or two, right? I mean, yeah, I thought I thought he should have went back to school as well. But I mean, you know, as far as just from a strictly like evaluation process, I mean, he was in cardiac arrest, didn't have the summer to kind of play with his guys and get ready. He comes in and, you know, he can't perform to that level because he's kind of getting up to speed. So I think it was harder to kind of evaluate him. Now what, you know, you have to evaluate where he put, where he put out for us to evaluate it. And it wasn't much. So, but I think Spinnick soons to draft him at seven to one is pretty good. I mean, I don't know if you, I mean, the Lakers, this obvious, but they made it known that they don't want to go with, you know, some of LeBron's requests. I mean, outside of, you know, they did grant his bigger request in hiring JJ, but I don't think they don't, I don't think they need Bronnie. I mean, I think they need somebody in the second round. I mean, I think they need somebody that they can develop for the future. And I think Bronnie's not that guy right now. He can be able to help Phoenix because they don't have any, they don't have anybody there in that, in that backward to handle the ball. So I think Phoenix is a seven to one is a good shot. I mean, what this signals to me is either a, Bron is very close to the end and he wants to play with this kid quickly. That's why he's rushing him to the NBA. What, when's the next kid do to enter the league? He graduates 20, 25. So next year, so he'll be after next year. So we got to use basically. Okay. All right. So perhaps what he does is he, I have heard multiple people say similar things, which makes me think it's messaging coming out of LeBron's camp. They want Bronnie to go to the healthiest situation for Bronnie to develop as a player. And so what, like, I do think a lot of people have said positive things over the years about Phoenix as an organization, potentially in that standpoint. But yeah, maybe he stows both his kids somewhere. And then he joins them late as a retirement tour. Does the whole thing like, like a jeter where you go around for a season and get gifts from the other teams with your kids. It's like a big family trip. Imagine getting a man with a man. Imagine if your dad could have got a paid family trip that took the entire season. Yeah. The entire year. I can see him. You want to say become a family vacation. Sure. Latte walk us through this game theory wise. Now currently the Lakers are the odds on favor to select Bronnie James at minus one 10. So basically it's like Lakers versus the field price wise. Now I'm all and the Lakers right now in the first round are selecting number 17. Yet Bronnie James to be drafted in the top 20 is 60 to one. Don't we have to at least throw a sprinkle that LeBron? I mean, he got his podcast host to, to coach his team. Maybe he has taken at 17 at 60 to one. He's got a lot of coaching experience. He's never coached. He's not just his cohost on a pod. I mean, he might not be there at 55. They have to take him at 17. Isn't it not? I mean, the fact that the Lakers are such clearly the favorites as far as interested in Bronnie James top 20, 60 to one. And what pick does it become worth it to just hold the bronze hostage? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, you want to play with your kid, LeBron? Hey, come on. The thing that's out of the lottery. I think you first seriously, the top 10 is a hundred to one. I think that's crazy. But top 20. The fact that the Lakers are in the top 20 at 60 to one feels like a good price. I can see Larry Bird getting involved in something like that. Maybe the Pacers can come in with him and come in with a side move. I think a team that I think you should watch, to be honest, it is late in that second rent. Well, a little bit, I think it's, then you have two picks before the Lakers pick the Golden State Warriors. And there's another team that you should watch out for. LeBron loves Steph Curry. He loves the organization. You know, he'll be there if Clay moves on, you know, they have an open slot to maybe get him in a bench role. He's in California. That's 35 to one. Yeah. Yeah, I was sprinkling on that. I mean, if you want to take a shot at anybody outside of the Lakers and Phoenix, which is, I think Phoenix is the only team he works, the working out for people like, I don't know if people take that, you shouldn't take that as like, meaningful, because it's been plenty of NBA and NFL guys who say, oh yeah, I never worked out and talked to any of these teams and they definitely used to, like, so I don't think you should put much into that. I mean, just smart by Clutch to kind of try to, you know, articulate where he goes. And especially just the, the whole LeBron aspect of it, like a team Ryan saying, maybe there is a, you know, Cleveland, he's, he's like, you know, he was there drinking a cabernet. You need an owner. You don't want to do it. Like, just say, fuck it. Like, yeah, let's, let's hold LeBron. I mean, Dan Gilbert, what better way to patch things up with LeBron? Hey, sorry about the comic sans letter. I drafted your son. Are we even you're going to show up for when we do the, when we raise the banner again in 20 years, the salute your team, you're going to come back, right? All right. One more. Well, hold on. If he goes to a team that LeBron wants, that doesn't that just show the whole thing is rigged. Oh, I think I think it is rigged. And I do. Well, I, because, because Clutch is such a big player in behind the scenes and, and LeBron secretly owns a big piece of an oil at some point. And even though you're not allowed to as a player, come on, you know, he's getting some kickback off that or some, some interest in it, right? And I think because Clutch is such a powerful agency, these teams know that. So, whatever LeBron wants to happen with Bronnie, I think it will kind of happen because you don't want to risk pissing off the entire clutch roster of players. You, as a, as a, as these teams have to compete for these guys and free agents, they're not going to want to try and step on LeBron James and clutches toes. It's not worth it, right? Who would be willing to do that? But, but also, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. It'd be one thing if, if Bronnie was awesome and you're like, yeah, yeah, fuck off. I'm going to draft Bronnie, but he's not even that good. So you're like trying to like out, out, out maneuver these teams. NBA is a league where if a guy says, hey, I want to be traded, he ends up getting traded. Like these, these guys have incredible leverage. How many points could you score on Bronnie? To 11, Sean, make it take it. Yeah, make it take it by ones to 11. Uh, call our own fouls. Sure. Because I play a little physical. I could get three. I could get two points. Yeah. Because I mean, what would happen is, is Bronnie would be sitting back. He doesn't realize six one. He's not that tall. He doesn't realize I can hit a corner corner. You know, you put me at the elbow. I can hit a couple of one on one though. It's not like he's going to get lost, like watching the game. No, but again, you wouldn't, if you looked at me, you wouldn't know. Oh, I got a, I got to close out of this guy when he's at the elbow. And then when I hit one of those, he's like, all right, I'm not going to let him do it again. I get one more layup because I do a little juke fake. And then he probably doesn't beat me for the most. I feel like most guys don't have to close out at you from the elbow. They could just jump from under the basket. Well, I, yeah, most NBA players, I close out an aggressive terminology. He's there. I could, I could get two against Brody. Oh God. Imagine trying to shoot on when me, Sean. Now, when he's, but he's almost too tall where I could probably get one because he's, he would be like, go between his legs. You get one pump fake on that guy and he's, he's hanging on latte. Give us one more lock here. We'll let you get out of here. Matos Bozzellus. Number five guy. Thank guy. I didn't have to pronounce that. All right. What, what do we got here? Matos Bozzellus. Matos Bozzellus. Yeah. Number five pick to the Detroit pistons. If you can get him fifth overall, that's at like plus 180. You shop around. You might get on a little bit better, but I think the one consistent has always been Matos number five. If you look at the mocks like wherever you want to look at respected mocks, he's been number five. I think it makes the most sense at five. They got a new, they got a new GM and they're looking to, you know, put a wing in there to, to mesh with Kate and Ivy. So I think Matos at five, I mean, that's been the most consistent, the most consensus. So I'll go with that one at plus 180. Like it. I'll trust your trust your NBA mock draft takes here, getting some bets. I have a feeling this guy, this guy's got a interesting face. He's going to be an interesting add to the NBA. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. He looks very young, very much like a guy who would get Saran wrap to the goal post and football. Are you talking about Matos? Yeah. Yeah, bro. He, he's got you would like him. You would like him, Kramer. You really would. He's like, he's challenging guys. Like, yeah, I'm the best guy in the draft. Like he was challenged to reach the shade, like to one on ones, like to show when he's better. He's like, yeah, he's feisty. He's good. I like that. Lontay. Appreciate it, man. Make sure you give Lontay a follow on X at X, X, Lontay, X, X, check them out NBA, gambling podcast, MLB, gambling podcast. Guys are covering the Olympics in a bunch more summer league stuff. I'm sure. All right. Lontay. Appreciate it, man. Let it arrive. Thanks for having a good night. Kramer mentioned summer league. Of course, that's taking place in Las Vegas. And so is circus survivors, circa millions back better than ever. They're giving away 16 million guaranteed prizes. No, Rake. You know how Derek does things. We're going to be out in Vegas, a decent amount coming up here. We got July 1st through 3rd. We're going to be doing some shows at V said, uh, doing a fill in week, the week of July. It's really loaded up. We were just talking about this, my guess. Only a couple of trips between now and football. And now it's a bunch. We're going to be out there for four trips before football, the week of July 22nd, filling in for the follow the money guys, bet bash. 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There's plenty of content to get through to the NFL slash NBA season. All right. So, and one last note on underdog, there, there, if you're someone that is a real addict, they're launching so many content. So many. Yeah. And we do the best of all, mania. It's $25 entry. Obviously use a promo code SGPN. Get that deposit bonus up to $250 in deposit bonuses. And you get the special pick offer. So you could have essentially 10 free entries, but yeah, if you're like, Hey, 25 bucks, they have $3. There's no reason you should be doing a mock draft. And here's just do like a $3 best ball. And here's what I'm going to suggest. If you have an idea for a contest, yeah, she, she only has 2041 followers. So there's not many people sliding into the DMS, but at Hope Bishop, former draft day guest. Oh, wow. She's the one behind the scenes. I think generating a lot more activity, especially in the lower, lower to your contest. So hit her up. I think, I think a lot of these contests were have come through suggesting through through the audience. So all right, here we go. Best ball media. Are you ready Sean? Oh, yeah. All right. I'm going to click the button. Hopefully I'm. Oh, oh, no. I did not. Do we see that? Do we see donate? Yes. Everyone sees what happens. I got it. We got it. We got it. You can leave me up, Josh, but we're going to, we have to see if they can get my location. We were having the problems that you normally have, Sean. Yeah. And then you yell at me for, for doing something wrong. Well, clearly it's the computers. I have a feeling my account is in, in some sort of category. There's been a couple of times we're coming back and forth from Vegas. Oh my goodness. All right. Ryan's trying to feed us back up on screen, Josh. We'll give me a second here. Well, Ryan's trying to figure out his location. I've been on a heater on their pickums. It's been pretty sweet. I used one of the plays Noah had. I know Adam Rosenberg writing some, some, some home run content, AKA long dongs. They call home runs dongs now, right? I know you're not a baseball guy, but the summer of dawn is really fun. Apparently. Yeah. So I've been cashing in on those guys on the pickum. Like I said, no, with the college world series, WNBA guys have been on an insane heater. So shout out to Terrell and Scott. I mean, Terrell's lock record. I know I think it's up to like 19 and five or something crazy like that. So you're not following those guys, like getting over there and a huge market for the pickums. And I can't wait to fire on some lacrosse pickum next week, Ryan. All right, Josh, bring me back up. I think I got it fixed. And we're in. Oh no. Are you in hitting? Yes. Fetching your draft. I never, are you the last person? It's spinning. Looks like I'm in. Okay. And looks like everyone's filled. So hopefully if you were watching live, you got in at the perfect time. I'm drafting six Kramer. You are in the eight spot. A couple of a couple shields here. Kramer, of course, does have the shield, which is a what do you mean? I earned the shield. You know what? I still haven't gotten mine. We are the nights to say me, me that whenever I see the shield, I think, is that like one of those stupid money Python? Yes. Oh, I wouldn't not. Python's great. I wouldn't. I know you're a, you're a comedy nerd, but I wouldn't chalk you to be a one of these British comedy nerds. No, not normally, but money Python. You might have an exception on time. Yeah. Life of Brian search for the Holy Grail. Those are classics, Ryan. If you're, if you're not watching those, you're crazy. So we got a full draft lined up, ready to go. And this is just a, it's just a great way to get ready for NFL season. And I think from doing our top 10 quarterbacks episode, I realized I don't have enough Josh Allen probably. And yeah, even with the tight end, similar kind of thing, like after I was doing the math, I'm like, I should probably have some more Dalton Kinkade. I haven't really been drafting them because of how high you got to take him, but I definitely want some more Dalton Kinkade. I could tell I influenced your Dalton Kinkade ranking. Yeah. Well, I, I kind of forgot how he turned it on. Second half of the season, what he did in the playoffs, which I do try and wait the playoffs a little bit more because I think that'll matter, especially with young guys, like you finished strong in the playoffs. I like you to carry that momentum to the next season. Wow, Ryan, Jamar Chase goes first overall. I can't remember how many drafts that has started. Christian McCaffrey quickly goes number two. My take on anyone but McCaffrey going first is that person's doing a single draft or they're just not doing a lot of drafts. If you're doing more than like three drafts and you have the first pick, you have to take McCaffrey, but they're a red shield, right? Then they're just out on McCaffrey. They're out on the idea of draft. I would imagine their portfolio includes not many running backs then. Justin Jefferson goes to every kill CD. Lamb. I'm on the clock here. I got I'm on Ross St. Brown, Bijon Robinson, Breeze Hall, or the dog himself, AJ Brown taking other Eagles team. Oh, really? Not necessarily. I think AJ Brown's great because you don't have to stack him with Jalen Hertz. I mean, I would like to, but if I don't get Jalen Hertz, I'm fine with it. I think AJ Brown is going to have a really good season. So yeah. And cereal can take. I know, but I think you put him in that killing more offense. The dude is a fucking dog. I don't think we can just say the killing more offense is this great thing. I do. It is worth. I think it's going to. I think it's, I think it's an upgrade of what they were trying out last year. I'm on Ross St. Brown goes Kramer. You're on the clock. Do you take Bijon, Breeze Hall, Pooka, Garrett Wilson? Yeah, I'm going to. I don't like how they change the draft logo. The draft icon. I'm going to take care of what Garrett Wilson is. What's the draft icon on the, on the website? Like when you go to draft, it's now like a square with a play. Triangle. I don't know. It just looks different. Bijon Robinson goes. Yeah, Garrett Wilson, the thought here was I was going to take one of the jets. Yeah, I do like the, you know, Garrett Wilson, 30% of the target share. He is set up for a great year. And he's shown the ability to show put up really good numbers with very bad quarterback play. So it's a easy, easy math to be like, well, if Roger stays healthy or even if he doesn't, he's still should be pretty good. Breeze Hall goes number 10. Well, that math works for Breeze Hall too, because he should have some positive regression in the touchdown. Yeah. Well, and also the year after he's heard again, like there's something going on. Yeah. I don't know if you've been tracking this, but like it's, you know, team is, I think underdog might have like team being cautious, but basically they're not, it seems as though they're, you know, they're going to take the approach of we're not going to put Breeze Hall in any sort of harm's way of this offseason. And I wonder how that impacts them when the season starts. I mean, you, it just seems hard to be a bell cow and be treated. Yeah. I don't know. Pooka, Jamir Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Marvin Harrison, Chris Olave Kramer. You're on the clock. Jake London just went. You got brain and a yuke. You got sake one. You got Devonta Adams, Nico Collins, Jaylen Wattle. What are you doing here, Ryan? Oh boy. All right. Don't typically don't typically have, I'll get, I'll keep your dream alive, Sean. Devonta Adams goes Brandon. I use sake on Barkley. Yeah. I don't know if Barkley is available. Do I take Barkley? I could see him. I could talk myself. What do you mean? Is that a serious question? Are you trying to do some weird jinks here? I don't get the idea of taking IU care. I don't, I understand he's a very good player. I understand he's in a very good office. It's going to be, is he going to be catching balls from Jane Daniels in DC? His sake on Barkley go. His ADP is one of the more confusing ones to me. Did you have a backup plan? Yeah. I don't know. I like Jalen Wattle, but I feel like I don't have a lot of them. Nico Collins is interesting. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm worried about Houston. I'm going to go Jaylen Wattle. I, I guess the concern about Houston is that they, that they eat into each other's production, right? Yeah. And they still love running the ball. Like that to me is, is the concern for Nico and see all these guys, I, you know, probably getting, probably a team that's getting overdrafted in general. Brenna, you goes, well, cause they still like running the ball. I mean, the more I think about the more I kind of like Joe mixin is the slight fade of the Texans fast. Probably safer to buy the bottom of the like tanked alley. Brandon, I, you goes. Divo Samuel goes. Divo, I guess, to me, of those two, Ryan, who would you rather have a Euchar divo? In the second round, neither. That seems crazy, but you have to choose one. That's what a hypothetical question. I, Euch. Yeah. I think I used the better. I use a better player, but I think divo, I feel a little bit more confident in his role. Any, it's the rushing stuff, but I, I can see the case for you, too. Are you, I guess to me is you're slightly buying into Brock Purdy as a quarterback, which I'm still skeptical. I'm like Evans goes. Do you want to comment on team nine? Team nine. What's in it? What's there? It's, they're going full Falcons. Be John and Drake London. Oh, care to common. Yeah. I, I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical of the Atlanta Falcons. Now, maybe it was an Arthur Smith thing. Maybe this is it. And I think part of it is just being out on these, these fucking nerds who love Kyle Pitt so much. They just love them. They love them. They really do. I've gotten two side bets going already with random Twitter people, which I'm, I think I'm, I'm undefeated and random Twitter side bets, but no one has paid me that it's out. No, it's just, it's, it's why I get annoyed agreeing to these because I bookmark them. This fucking 49ers fan still hasn't paid me for Trey Lance. That one. And I, I check in on him every, every couple of months, still nothing. Devanate Chin goes Malik neighbors goes. There's some, you saw what happened with the fantasy world community. You can drum up some, you can drum up some controversy. Oh yeah. There's some, there's some Daniel Jones, the deep fantasy community making a rallying craft for Daniel Jones, right? Yeah. Well, he's very cheap. It's an easy take. He's literally, I mean, I don't know if you saw the part in my take graphic, but they ranked their, their, their top quarterbacks and they left Daniel Jones off the list. That's great. No giants quarterback ranked. Yeah. No, I mean, if I was touting fantasy takes, I would every year, just look up the worst five people projected and just be really high on them. And that's that. Well, when you hit, you can just fucking have the best receipts ever. That's literally what some of these, you can delete the other ones. They do this. These, these nerds, the fantasy community is very sad, very sad. Devan to Smith, Stefan Diggs, as we're hosting a best, I mean, we're just doing some drafts. Yeah. This is interesting. You're also not crying about not being paid. You're 25. No, from a random person on the internet. This guy. What am I doing here, Ryan? I mean, Kyron Williams is going to continue to be interesting to me as long as, yeah. I mean, he did score a lot of touchdowns. I understood that the Blake quorum, but at some point it's it's a little banged up, but I'll take Kyron Williams. This is interesting, cause I got a lot of angles I can pursue here. I got Kyron Williams, A.J. Brown, Jalen Waddle, Michael Pittman goes who I was considering. I was hoping to get Cooper cup cause I do want some late, uh, Maddy Stafford action. Mm. Took Josh Allen. Talk. I was considering him too. I just couldn't, I don't know. Garrett Wilson. I came in saying I need more Josh Allen than push game to shove. I didn't, I didn't actually do it. Garrett Wilson was a, is a bring back for the bill's. Yeah, I'm sure most people. Derek Henry goes. I think Derek Henry, the more I think about it, the more he could be interesting just from a touchdowns perspective, because they don't like Lamar Jackson near the goal line. Who else is getting Gary's inside the five? Everyone. Everyone. They flowers. Mark Andrew. Didn't that go horribly wrong in the playoff game? Yeah, I don't, I mean, look, I, I get why you're, you're high on Derek Henry for the same reason as because he, he's going to be on a good offense and he's probably to your point, Sean, going to be the goal line back. That's why you like him. Yeah. To Inkdale, George Pickens, Travis Kelsey, T Higgins all off the board. Samuel Porter up there. I guess that's in general. I don't have a lot of super high tight end guys. I just, I, in these best ball drafts, I just don't find myself spending a ton for tight end Travis Kelsey go, go ahead of them. I feel like in most drafts, LaPorta goes first, but I could be wrong. And I'm, yeah, I'm not, I'm not taking a lot of LaPorta for that reason. LaPorta's gone. Kramer's on the clock. I mean, he's not getting back to me. Dalton Kincaid goes. So now I got a nice little stack with a Garrett Wilson bring back. And we do have to, and that's also why we started receiver receiver. We knew this might have been part of the plan. Travis ETN goes and Jalen Hertz falls into my lap. Oh, wow. Look at you going to draft Jalen Hertz. Ryan friendly reminder. Have you signed up with rhythm yet? Well, if not, what are you waiting for? Perfect time to start working on some NFL production NFL projections. Get out there. Head of the market. They've been also on an insane heater. WNBA and golf doing really well with those picks and the props. They got a predictive model born out of the brains, some MIT data scientists and quants. It's really fun. One, cause their, their model does really well in and of itself, but then, and I don't, I can't, I don't know any other tools that allow this. You go in, you pick the stats, you like the stats that matter to you and they will create custom models for you. So that to me is really the coolest part is like, hey, I like yards per attempt in the NFL. 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But I was also surprised at how high I became on Dallin Kincaid. And so now basically every draft I've done since we did the tight end episode, I may be drafting more Dallin Kincaid. Kyle Pitts goes. This is crazy. Kyle Pitts of 49. It's the sixth tight end. Yeah. But I guess I just wouldn't be drafting Kyle Pitts of 49. I'm not drafting Kyle Pitts at all. Really? Yeah. I'm not you, Ryan. I don't have like nine million drafts where, Oh, no, I don't. Should we look at my ownership? You didn't max center last year. Are you going to max? What do you mean I didn't max center? Well, you didn't. Yeah, I don't see any cock suckers in the league, league office. They canceled the draft after the thing was filled. I don't understand how the other people, if anyone else in that draft got a full fucking 150 teams. I was also, I was also told I would be receiving a car. Oh, it's not. It's a succulent, not a cat. What I'm saying goes patty. My home's goes. Patrick, my home's goes. Ryan, what do I do here? Do I go Keenan Allen? Do I go Hollywood Brown? Do I go Calvin Ridley setting up for it? I mean, I love this Titan steam. You have been doing, I don't have any cow, zero percent zero cow fits. All right, I'm going Calvin Ridley. Although I do like, if you're not doing the Will Levis stack, I do like DeAndre Hopkins, almost better considering how much farther down you can get them. Yeah. And considering he's just on a, I don't know if it was just one tweet, but clearly he is. He's a motivated guy right now on social media. All right. Have you been memorizing your week 17 correlation? No, not at all. I should, though. Yeah, you should. Eagles, of course, match up with the Cowboys and chat to the guy in discord. No, I'm not drafting any Cowboys on my bringbacks. I can see why they do that to you. I know that was really cool. How am I going to come off as a sharp now? Yeah, it's it really puts you in a tough spot. It's going to limit how many Eagles builds I have. That's for sure. Oh, Shawn, look what I look at you guys. Let me do. I love this team. Isaiah Pacheco goes Hollywood Brown, Keaton Allen and Kramer takes James Cook. I love this team. I also have some Vegas stuff. Sean, who does Vegas play in week 17? I'm going to say the bills. They play the saints random. They are one of the teams with three dome games during the playoffs. Who does the Vegas Raiders Vegas Raiders, Vegas Raiders, Anthony Richardson, Chris Godwin, Kenneth Walker, a K K nine. Now what? Now what do we do? I only have two receivers. Deep in thought here. What are you doing here, Sean? You got your kind of in a similar spot as me. You don't have the tight end. Breaking news, Ryan, the Eagles and the Titans have the same bi week. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. You'll figure that out later. Well, I you get a third quarter back. It's true. Laid McConkey, Roman Dunes, a ghost, Kramer's on the clock. What are you doing Kramer? Rashad White, if you need a running back, my Joe makes him. Well, the Rashad White stuff is is starting to become interesting with where he's falling to. But I I'll, I'll, I'm, I'm happy to. I think I just have to add the receiver. No, let's do this. All right, Alvin Kamara. Wow, correlation over anything right now. Okay. It's fair. Well, again, I'm like, now I got Devontai. I got a little gardener mints you Devontai Adams with an Alvin Kamara bring back set up. I have you. I know we've been Kendra Miller fans lately. Have you, I know, and there is a Kamara hold up, but have you also read the stuff about Kendra Miller? No, it might be a little bit of a knucklehead. I could see that. I took you back. They can't learn the playbook or how does that work? How exactly does that work? DeAndre Hopkins goes, Xavier, worthy goes the longer it goes without hearing about Rashi Rice's suspension, the more I'm kind of intrigued by taking Rashi Rice, Oh, no, because he's a guy that could really pop for you in the playoffs. I get at some point, I think we've gone too far without with where he's fall. 100% I, but he's going to be suspended. Like the delay doesn't make it more in tree. I agree with everything you said. I don't think the pause is just the way that the NFL deals with this stuff. No, you know how this is going to go. Like, yeah, maybe he starts the season, but unlikely. Well, we'll find out. Oh, Ryan, Rashi Rice just went to Jackson to what? Too early, but it is. I heard someone making a case for Rashi Rice and the part I liked was Rashi Rice is going to be doing really well for you in the fantasy football playoffs. Yeah, I agree or disagree. Well, I forget what I was listening to, but the point was made that the Chiefs don't tolerate this with everyone. Yeah. And so it seems like whatever he was able to show them last year is like they're willing to go to. They're not worried about whatever is coming down, which seems like that's potentially a dangerous situation. But yeah, I mean, I don't know if you're drafting him here. We saw him in the eighth round, I think last time we did a draft show. I get the point, but what if if he misses half the season, are you feeling? Are you still fine with this pick here? But if he helps you win in the, in the playoffs of like something like this, maybe you are okay with it. Christian Watson, Keon Coleman, go on that team. It's the fifth receiver. So that makes a little bit more sense. And Keon Coleman, I would have taken if he made it back to me, but I'm already kind of, I'm good in terms of bills, probably. I already made my time as goes. I was considering him as a little bring back to the Tennessee team. Oh, look at that. I like how you're thinking about the structure. It's very important. Receivers start to get thin here. They just, uh, Patriots just paid. Remindre Stevenson. Really? Yeah. Interesting. I don't know if that's exciting to you. George Kittle goes. Yeah, they're loading up, loading up for championship run. Jameson Williams off the board. I'm on the clock. Seaver JSN, then just a ton of running backs. I'll take a Najee Harris. I mean, he's just going to get a shit ton of work. I don't getting him round seven. I'll take it. Uh, let's see. I mean, I'm, I'm tempted to take one more. All right. We're going to go off the script. Someone. Oh, Evan Ingram goes. Where you considering Evan Ingram, right? Another guy who really stood out in the, in the running back prep, I would say. And yeah, you know what? I have not, oh, no. I didn't see him here. All right. I'll take Aaron Jones in the seventh round. Hmm. He's your guy. Three running backs. Two receivers, Sean. Am I doing it wrong? I, I read a thing. I got deep. So I was, I, I read, uh, ETR is Leonie, put out a, like a number steep dive, which then led me into a deeper dive. And, uh, it, I am a lot more intrigued by four and five running back builds. Like making the running backs a little bit better, not throwing pure zero RB prayers. And I think there's a, I think there's a strange amount of depth at this part of the receiver class. Right. Would it be crazy to have two quarterbacks will love his and Trevor Lawrence in week 17? Like correlating the whole game? No, but just like, hey, your second and third quarterbacks are playing each other in week 17. Is that something you should not do? Well, I don't know. I mean, I, I'd be curious to hear comment, but I, when I stack the bills with the jets, I often have Aaron Rodgers because of his price. Yeah. Well, they, they have the same by week 12. And so it's, to me, yeah, it's, it's better. Why wouldn't it be better? If the goal, if, if all that matters is week 17 in a contest like this, all that matters is winning the big prize week 17. And yeah, now it's so that would be negative, right? Because if you're just trying to maximize your score for week 17, having two quarterbacks in the same, well, I guess, no, no, no, because you build a much higher, like, yes, you want access to the highest ceiling. Well, you're already correlating a game. So the idea that both quarterbacks provide very high scores. I don't think that's, I think it's only positive to have your correlation tightly coupled in there. Now there's probably some sort of conversation around dratly where the draft equity is, but I would, I would assume that your, your second and third quarterbacks are further down the board. And so not consuming a ton of your draft equity. So like Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers, for example, that probably does make sense. Jonathan Brooks goes, I'm out on him. I did a, I did a, the, the high stakes fantasy guys show. And they, these guys are all up all in on Jonathan Brooks. They love running backs over there. Yeah. Why would you love Jonathan Brooks? I mean, that, that injury stuff seems real, right? Yeah, absolutely. And I'm just, I'm just, I'm just going to, if, if Samir White's available in the eighth round in September, that would be crazy to me. Gun to my head. If there's one guy that I know for a fact will not be drafted in the eighth round. It's Samir White. There's no one else on the, have you looked at the roster? Have you looked at the depth chart for the Raiders? I don't know why you'd be taking name the backup. We're going to play that game. How much does Sean know ball? The backup running back in Las Vegas to Samir White is Alex Madison, someone who is Alex in her Madison showed us already. He's washed up. All right. Who's third string? Amir Abdullah. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. They did draft someone, but Dylan lob, I think his name is, but he's listed forth on the depth chart. So all right, Sean, I just took four straight running backs. Am I doing it wrong? People are going to hate my all right. What? Corland Sutton just went, Sean. Yep. You see the holdout news? No, I didn't. Is he holding out? I don't know. It sounds like he's intriguing to me because his upside is massive. We've seen Sean Payton generate a like a massive catch receiver in his offense before. Corland Sutton definitely profiles to be that guy in this offense. We're in the, the eighth round. You don't typically find number one receivers down here. I feel like I need to draft more Corland Sutton, even though he's threatening to hold out. Josh Palmer is kind of interesting. Cause he could, he could just be the guy. He's in my queue. We don't need to talk about. I have a lot of a, I'm worried a little bit about my bi week situation here. I did, I did draft for he most cert. I mean, I have, oh, look at this. The Saints also bi week 12. So I have Josh Allen, James Cook, Alvin Kamara, Garrett Wilson, and Dalton Kincaid, all bi week 12. I mean, the other side of a bi, so especially in baseball, maybe it's not, it's not week by week in the regular season. So concentrating your bi weeks to a single week probably, you know, takes a small amount from your, your overall projection and definitely hurt your floor, but I don't know if it's the biggest deal. I don't think you want to roll zero quarterbacks out there, but what are you doing, Ryan? Or when are you up next? You're not up for a while. I think I'm a, there's a chance I take a fifth straight running back. Jayden Daniels goes. And then I, I'll, I, there is some figuring out of the receiver position that needs to happen. Jordan Love goes. Oh, here we go. The second class of quarterbacks are going now. I mean, what, what are your, all right. So I, I think if you, I've also kind of come to the opinion that if you're drafting a quarterback early, you, you really shouldn't be taking a second quarterback like this. Even the, the team number 11, who went Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow with seven, eight round picks, even that feels a little rich for quarterback. Just take three quarterbacks. Just take them later. How's the blackjack going? Right. I'm, I'm sitting here. Sorry. I didn't have anything to add to your compelling point. I was, I was the transition. I'm making sure I'm making sure I get my guy, Dallas Goddard. Oh, David and Joku just went off the board. He's the next tight end Goddard. So I was debating. Do I take Josh Palmer or do I snag Goddard because, because he might not come back to me. He's the next tight end up. So I'm, I was doing that math. Cleo Shakira off the board. You're on the clock, Ryan. Josh Palmer is available. Yeah. Why do you keep talking about him? I'll take him now. Because he's interesting and I don't have a ton of him. So I've been kind of talking myself maybe into him a little bit. It's certainly interesting that he's going here and Latin Maconkey is going. What round did he go? I mean, he goes way higher, which okay, maybe, but also explain it like I'm five, six round for Latin Maconkey. Josh Palmer also is a classic guy. Third. What is it? He's been in the NFL for three years. Yeah. New coaching situation with a good quarterback. He actually has chemistry with Herbert. Why not? Why couldn't it be Josh Palmer would be my question? Yeah. I mean, lad is interesting, but the more I think he's a rookie too. I mean, I can see Harbaugh not loving rookies or, you know, busting their ass, right? I mean, if you're, if you're ultimate football guy, John Harbaugh, who would you get the word on the street too, is that Josh, you know, Josh Palmer's doing well. Yeah. And also he felt like the, the weeks he filled in with, you know, Kenan Allen or Mike Williams being out, he had good years or, you know, good games in 2022. He had 72 catches, three touchdowns. Like he, he was just kind of getting boxed out. One, he was a little banged up last year and two, um, you know, I mean, one, they were also a disaster. Herbert being hurt, but if he's healthy and Justin Herbert's healthy, Josh Palmer could catch a bunch of balls. Rasheed, she he'd goes. Great pick. He's the number two in New Orleans and there's not much competition. You do have to start Derek Carr then is, I guess, well, it could be a brain. Yeah. Could be a bring back again for the Raiders. If you want a Gardner Menchoo team, why are we sleeping on Gardner Menchoo, Sean? He played in the air raid in college. Coach Leach, oh, he's just never been fantasy viable. Okay. Would be my counter. Where did he finish last year? It's a good question. I'll look that up. Send that over to the research team. Mm. You want to talk average or total points? Yeah, whatever. Total points works, uh, 21st. And he averaged 12.8 points for game. Thought someone's super exciting, right? To me personally. Okay. Giovanni Williams goes Kramer, you're on the clock. And if I'm buying in, I guess I should buy in. I'll double bring back here with some Mike Williams. I do think the, I do think the price has gotten ridiculous. He is going to catch some back, back shoulder touchdowns from Aaron. Devin Singletary goes. Oh, that's a nice pick. Not. Should I take Trevor Lawrence or to a ride? Jesus Christ is the bi-week a concern. Do you have a stack for Trevor Lawrence? Not currently. Oh, I wouldn't draft either guy if you don't have a stack. Don't be desperate to draft a shitty quarterback. I drafted to. Yeah, that's but smarter. You have waddle. And I have Rehemos, sir. Sure. But waddle, you have a second round receiver. That's smart to stack. Brock Purdy goes. I would say actually I've my strategy has fully, if I'm drafting a receiver in the first three rounds, I'm trying to stack them. Prioritized by round, I drafted them in. I like that four mil. You're already making this big bet on the receiver. You really should lean into betting on the whole situation. I like where your head's at. It doesn't have to be a robust stack as they say. Damn it. You got all the turns. I wanted to take Jacobi Myers. Damn it. Oh, that hurts. Taggie Spears off the board. Oh, that hurts so bad. You're going to take Taggie Spears, right? No, I was going to take Jacobi Myers. Oh, he's such a good, he's such a steal. Do people not remember last year? He scored a ton of points for me. I drafted him into a shitload of teams last year. I understand they're going to run the ball a lot. You know what I already have is a mirror. What I have two Raiders. That's plenty. Good that I didn't get them. Thanks for checking in though. Ryan, someone just, uh, someone just, uh, we got to mention. Someone DM'd us asking, would we sponsor a fantasy football league? Oh, with the, with the, um, the, the issue being loser has to get an SGP and tattoo. What's the sponsorship we pay for the tattoo? Well, I would imagine maybe we would put up some prize money, uh, for that. Oh, okay. Make it interesting. What kind of sponsorships are we going to wear our force? Uh, maybe you get a tattoo in there. Yeah, that's literally what I know. I'm just, I don't know. I mean, I, I'd be down, I guess. I don't know these people though. All right. I drafted Gabe Davis. Sorry to distract you, Ryan. Gabe Davis. Yeah. What are you doing? You're setting up a, are you, you don't, can't get Trevor Lawrence anymore. Uh, no, but I, uh, it's a bring back for my, uh, Titans action. It's true. I have the Andrea Hopkins and Calvin Ridley. It's almost as bad. Sweet ABC South. It's almost as bad as taking Cowboys as a bring back. Gabe Davis. What do you mean? Oh, Jags. Oh, what's wrong with the Jags? My least favorite team in the AFC South. Buy a mile. Tank Bigsby. Redemption tour. I think he might get cut actually. You got to be careful with that one. I would avoid, uh, who's the other guy? They, who's the other running back they have? Remind me, Sean. Cause that's actually a more interesting pick. It's like Deeronist Johnson or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I think he's, if you're looking for a backup to Travis ETN, that's more interesting, I think. Oh, I have to, I had to, uh, two chargers. I was considering it, but he got taken. Herbert super late. Oh, yes. That's off the table. Oh man. Well, here's my team so far. Feeling pretty good. Hertz to, uh. And I got Kyron Williams, Najee Harris, Raheem Ostert, AJ Brown, Jalen Waddle, Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, Gabe Davis, Dallas Goddard. So probably need to stack up on some running backs here. Feel like I'm almost there on receiver. Chuba Hubbard is interesting to me. Like I just, I think he might get a lot of carries early on. We were touching on this earlier, but yeah, the, the high stakes community is all like, Jonathan Brooks is ADP on FFPC is much lower. And I don't quite understand it. He got his injury was very late November 7th. You got the surgery. I mean, I think Chuba Hubbard, like Chuba just, he's not, he's not a great running back, but he's going to get a ton of carries, right? What else is this team going to do? Can you see what can Alice did last year with Rashad White? Someone who is super inefficient that the fantasy community hated. There's a lot of parallels to to Chuba. Do you have Chuba in your queue? I don't want to not take him and we get flagged for correlation. I might, but I got a lot of guys like you, Ryan. Oh, okay. Kendra Miller, Ty Chandler. I just, I just, there's so many running backs. I love, I really think I'm doing this draft wrong. Too many running backs. I mean, Chuba Hubbard's ADP is all the way down to 167. So pretty insane. I don't think I got to draft him here. Can wait. Xavier Leguet goes, not interested. Not interested at all. No, I'm with you. No, no, no, no. I mean, you got Adam Thielen. You got Deontae Johnson. If anyone pops, it's going to be those guys. All right. Love this guy. Love the situation. Sharmini. Now I'm at six running backs. That's got to be the end, right? Yeah. No more running backs. Only have four receivers. I don't like that strategy. Yikes. I don't want to be in round 12 with more running backs than receivers. I don't concade one of them out there. All right. So pass catcher. I'll take Kendra Miller. Good luck. I'm scared away from him. No, I'll take Ty Chandler. Yeah. Running backs running back who is in hindsight. I shouldn't have taken Aaron Jones. I should have taken the receiver that round. Running back. They can't learn the playbook. That's a new new thing. We got to be out on that guy. How do you not learn the playbook? It's so easy. All right. Hand off right. Hand off left. Pass. Run here. Pass blocking. Okay. Got it. You're not great at it. That's fine. But not learning the playbook. That's not acceptable. No, no, no, no, no. You're with me there. Yeah. Yeah. Kendra Miller did go. Ricky Pearsall. Pearsall is maybe. I'm confused on him. I hear like people seem very torn on him. Some people love him and some people think he's not going to be good. He might be good. But like how does it get involved in this offense? Assuming a euk or debo doesn't get traded. You got a euk, debo, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. Because they trade. Juan Jennings. It involves the trade, obviously. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. But in the 12th round, I don't know. I feel like there's guys with a clear path towards usage. Yeah. All right. Right. Someone's already drafted. Jonah Smith. Yeah. It's a great pick. Oh, they literally just drafted him. I was going to put him in my queue. Cause I'm like, oh, no one's going to. You're drafted. Jonah Smith above Pat Fryermouth. Cole Comet, Luke Musgrave. Hunter, Henry, K Dotten. Isaiah likely. It's a great pick. Why are you so out on Jonah Smith? Oh, just being very mean about him. I'm just skeptical that he's going to put up fantasy points. And I like all those other tight ends. I just named more. Okay. You're allowed that you're entitled to that opinion. Oh, thank you. I'll entitle you that to I'll entitle you to that opinion. Josh Downs off the board. You slipped a bit. Yeah. Quentin Johnson. He slips in all the drafts when you don't take Anthony Richardson. He's your favorite Anthony Richardson stack. Yeah, he's someone you can toss in there. Darnell Mooney get a piece of that, uh, that high powered Atlanta offense. It will be. They traded for him. That's got to mean something, right? Come on, if I dial, he's interesting. I don't is he? Yeah, just because I we don't know who's going to be the chargers running back. Ah, I don't know. Greg Roman brought in Gus Edwards. Someone he speaks very highly about. But is Greg, I mean, he seems like a guy that's like perfect for the playoffs. Who? Come on, he vowed down. Rookie running back hitting his stride. Jalen right goes. I'm going to do it. I'm going to draft. Probably. I don't know. Could I wait? I mean, you can always wait. All right. I'll take, uh, Julia on the Galaflan. Whoa. So Sean Payton, I don't know if you've seen fresh, fresh comments. Maybe it's old, but it seemed fresh. More positive things to say. Yeah. He likes Julia on the Galaflan. That's all I'm basing my, my support of Julia on the Galaflan. All right. Take care. A rod. Are you worried, Rod? It's going to be out. Yeah. It's missing out on some OTAs. I got the jets. I got, I got Mike Williams and Garrett Wilson. It's the bit I got Dalton Kincaid and James Cook with Josh Allen on the other side. I, yeah, I had to. Maddie Stafford, Quinton Johnson. So like, yeah, I mean, Josh Palmer to me way better than Quinton Johnson. I guess there are 80 P's reflect that, but. Yeah. Roman Wilson. He's in the queue. Super fun, rookie. I mean, don't really know what we're going to get there, but yeah. I just, I just trust the Steelers to draft rookie quarterbacks. It's fair. Adam Thelin. I know everyone hates him because he's old, but. Free Adam Thelin. Corley goes the rookie, right? Actually, I'm sure he was right in your queue. No, I, I, I'm maxed out. I'm, I'm taking a double stack and that's good enough. Ballakai Corley is number one on my all overrated list this offseason. Really? Oh, yeah. So you wouldn't take him even though you got Rogers. I have Mike Williams and Garrett Wilson already. Otherwise. Yeah, Rogers doesn't like rookies. Otherwise I could maybe consider it. And then I will throw in his tight end though. Because of course you should correlate your tight end, Sean. Okay. Makes sense. It's a plus EV move. I think that actually locks up my entire draft. How many rounds we got left for? Yeah, four. You have five. What do you, you're on the clock, Sean. Tick tick tick tick tick. What Roman Wilson. It's the story about him flying to school to play football. They got you in Hawaii, right? Yeah. Dog. How many tight ends you taking? Probably three. Don't see how it wouldn't. Do you have one right now? Yep. Yeah. You can see myself drafting two more tight ends. I don't know if I'm going to take another receiver. I got six that I really like. That enough? Chuba Hubbard goes. Oh, I got six receivers, five running backs. I want a quarterback and two more tight ends. And then one more BPA best player available. Oh, look at that little flex. Little flex spot. Chuba Hubbard by Dow off the board there. Will Levis goes? What? Oh, wow. Someone else is a little. He's a red shield too, Sean. We're on to something. We are on to something. The market shapers are on to Will Levis. I mean, your whole draft has been blown up. What's next? Has it? I don't know. I mean, I can still get. I still like those two receivers. I assume Chug was already in your queue. Yeah, I can. I can un-storm. I have a backup for my third quarterback. Okay. Bucky Irving. You drafted any Bucky Irving this year in Tampa? No. Are you properly brought back on all your week 17 correlation? Do you need any help? I got the, got the matrix up. AKA my brain. Oh, this is diabolical. What? No, I'm not going to tell you. What are you going to, you're going to smash into my, you smash into any sort of fucking correlation over here. I'm going to, I'm going to send an email personally to underdog eluding. All right, Luke McCaffrey. Have you drafted Luke McCaffrey yet? He didn't draft Christian McCaffrey number one overall, but he took Luke McCaffrey later on in the draft. And this guy took Chug. He took Will Levis and Chig off the board in one swoop. It's fine. It's fine. You're not worried. Adam Dealing still on the board. Any interest? Might have some interest. Lied to our face. Chicky Dobbins goes. He's interesting. If he wasn't such a cryberry baby bitch, like his, he's not going to make it on a Harbaugh team. The way that he tried to hold out multiple times, got himself wrapped up in the running, the running back zoom call. It's like no one even knows who you are. JK Dobbins. Why would you take pop Douglas over Adam Dealing? Oh, wow. He was in my queue too. He was in my queue too. Can't win them all, Sean. Nope. Sorry. I think you just got a fire, fire random bullets here then. People are going to be taking my guys because that was actually going to be some correlation, Sean. Yeah. It's a bummer. Yeah. I don't know. Chargers correlation. Might only do one tight end. Really? No, I mean like two tight ends total. All right. We just need to stack some receivers. Love Michael Wilson this year. What about Noah Gray? Is that crazy? For tight ends? Yeah. Yeah. There's plenty of tight ends out there. Scroll down. Scroll up in that case. I scroll down too far. Scroll all the way down. Brian, I was DMing with Carson Steel. Whoa. And you can talk about it on the air. Yeah. Okay. Well, I can tell, I can tell you the parts I want to talk about. Oh, God, I got it. I got it inside information. I wouldn't mention it to you, but yeah. Told him congrats, rooting for him this season. Nice. He's excited to see him on the Chiefs. Wow. Not worried about the jinks? No. Okay. How's that chinksing? Only spots locked up. I mean, I, I, I've been, I've been driving. I got a greater than zero percent ownership. Just saying. He didn't have an ADP ride until we got involved. Yeah. Does he have one now? Yeah, 216. I think it was all that behind the back. Passy cod from Patrick Mahoney. There's a gator talking about. Croc you Jay. Yeah. I wonder, I mean, there's probably a lot of Shout out to membership in Kansas City. Kate Atten goes. It's always a fun. What quarterbacks are available? Geno Smith, Bryce Young, Drake May. Danny Dimes. Whoa. JJ McCarthy. Bo Nix. Would it be stupid to have Dawson, Knox, and Talon Kincaid on the same team? Uh, probably. It's pretty unique, huh? You know, that's really unique, bro. No, fan. You're on the clock, Kramer. Oh, yeah. Been drafting a lot of Jalen McMillan. Baker seems to like this guy. Yes. I'm just taking a couple comments made in the spring out of context, which by the way, I had it queued up for when I was going to draft Pop Douglas, which seems like you were going to take him from me anyway. But me? Yeah. No, I didn't take him. No, I know you didn't take him, but you sounded like you were going to take him that round. No, no, no, no. Okay. No interest in taking Pop Douglas. Oh, why did you react that way then? I was surprised that someone drafted Pop Douglas when Adam Theon was available. Oh, yeah. Did you not watch Pop Douglas run up that hill? No, I think he's. I think he's. I don't think you needed it. I mean, he's if you're looking to do like a random Drake May stack. I love that pick there. I was about to take him. So I think it's great value. So I just took Justin Fields to stack with Roman Wilson as my third stack. I mean, this is nothing bad to say about taking Justin Fields in the 16th round. I have Jalen Hertz, Dallas Goddard, A.J. Brown sack. And then I have to a waddle stack with Mostert. And then I have Fields Roman Wilson, Jalen Warren. Do you have any browns? Are you rock hard about my correlation? You don't have any bring backs for your dolphins. You don't have any, do you have any chiefs? I might. Come up. You need to bring back for your Steelers and you need to bring back for your your dolphin. Wait, no Cowboys either. You didn't correlate anything. Don't ask me to judge your correlation if you're not going to do it, right? Oh, Sean, a Red Shield took Will Levis and Daniel Jones. We are going to something. Gino Smith. I'd say likely off the board. Was he in your queue? Uh, yeah, it was. Sorry for your loss. It's okay. Do I take Jotavian Sanders? The Panthers guy? I don't know shit about him. I haven't heard anything about him. Greg Dolchich. You're looking for a tight end. Yeah. I mean, I. It does seem like why not just take. There's a couple of guys above Sanders that I figured you'd be beyond on to. Jalani Woods, Mike Aceki. Why wouldn't you take Aceki? Yeah, you could. Well, we're trying to do it, Jinx. Joanne Johnson. Oh, no, he's out. He's probably missing a lot of time. That's not sharp, not sharp. He doesn't pay attention. You think he's even draft her? It's auto draft. Should I take Dawson Knox? Kind of fun. Well, why not take Aceki? He's the starting quarterback in a decent. Dawson Knox is great for this format. Touchdowns. But yeah, I would, I would take Aceki or even Woods. Much higher ceiling. Mike Aceki Penn State product. This is a near perfect draft, right? Nice. Congrats on your near perfect draft. Thank you. I don't think I need a third tight end, do I? Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Gardner Menchune, James Cook, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, Amir White, Gus Edwards, Zach Charbonnet, Garrett Wilson, Devonta Adams, Josh Palmer, Mike Williams, Michael Wilson, Jaylen McMillan, Dalton Kincaid, Tyler and Cochlan. And the question is, do I get one more receiver? Or do I do a third tight end correlation? Serial pointing out Sean Payton is the man. Yeah, he is. Uh, no, no. It is interesting how nothing came of that Sean Payton Bong video. It's smoking my weed. Who's your last pick going to be? I'm not going to tell you. Oh, okay. Chase Claypool is on the bill, should I? Carson Steel or do I go tight end? I only have two tight ends. So, I mean, isn't the point just to take Carson Steel every time? Yeah. Yeah. It's for the screenshot of the ownership. Hey, nurse goes love that. That's one of my favorite late round. If, if I do draft Justin Herbert, love taking that one. Yeah, one. All right, Michael Mayer. Hmm. Did you draft a? Gardener Menchu. Yes. Gardener Menchu, Aaron Rogers, Josh Allen. Wow, that is a, it's a fun. Everything's. Fun quarterback. Everything's loaded up and brought back. Oh, it's got to feel good. Well, you know, it's the point. The point is you want to win it all. So if you didn't win it all, you lost. That's how you should approach this exercise. I got Carson Steel, right? So I won that battle. Nice. How many drafts have you taken Carson Steel? It's a good question. I'll have to check my ownership. My official roster is Jalen Hurts Toa. Justin Fields, Kyron Williams, seven receivers for me. That's probably better. How are we feeling? We're going to be talking a lot of college football this week with Colby. Yeah, we got a bunch of college football previews going. Going to be loading up on those guys. Of course, we got a couple more of our fantasy football previews as well. Yeah, things are a little stuck. So this week we're recording a bunch of episodes for the future with Colby. Live, you'll hear us talk SEC. We'll break it into two parts talk about it. No, they don't do divisions now. So who know? We'll chop it into two parts. I do a part one, a part two. And then we got PLL picks this week, Sean. Oh, yeah. Come on. We're back. And yeah, then we're back at the top 10 lists while we're out in Vegas. Oh, it's fun. It's the week of July 4th. So and then yeah, and then yeah, just from that, basically July is going to be a ton of college previews. And then on into the NFL stuff, the national football league. Sam, how are you for participating in these? That is not a good traffic. Oh, sports, give a packet. Some Sean stuck in the money. Green. He's Ryan. It just means more. Kramer, let it ride. 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