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John Fuisz: Tracking Emotional Vectors

John Fuisz is co-founder of Veriphix and a marketer who believes in building great brands. He does so with a sophisticated system that, on the surface, appears simple and direct; however, it’s built on his astute observations of consumer behavior, the clever use of data, and most importantly, it’s related to Annie Duke’s use of bets to measure future behaviors. We wanted to talk to John because his work tracks the seemingly subtle, yet extremely powerful, ways our buying and voting behaviors can be influenced. Veriphix connects brands with users with three primary tools: First, by tracking emotional vectors, to understand how we feel about things on a weekly basis by asking them to make bets about what they expect to feel. Second by monitoring the emotional triggers that get us to do the things we do. Lastly, he watches for the implicit delta, the measure of the emotional impact of an issue. And he does so with very strict ethical standards. John believes that marketers should elevate their messaging to build great brands, not just influence our subconscious decision making. He wants to dilute the impact that nefarious actors have on consumers (and voters) by challenging us to a meaningful first step. He notes, “We want to believe we’re rational humans, but to have an effective defense [against bad actors], we have to admit we’re irrational.” Please take a moment to rate Behavioral Grooves or leave us a review. Our podcast doesn’t have advertisers; rather, we rely on listeners like to you help us get the word out. Your help is greatly appreciated. We hope you enjoy our conversation with John Fuisz. Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan © 2020 Behavioral Grooves   Links John Fuisz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fuisz/ Veriphix: https://veriphix.com/ Annie Duke: https://www.annieduke.com/ “Thinking In Bets”: https://www.amazon.com/Annie-Duke/e/B001K88E4U/ Claire McCaskill “Korea”: https://www.vox.com/2018/8/20/17759574/midterm-russia-china-north-korea-iran-hack-cyber DARPA: https://www.darpa.mil/ Christopher Wylie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wylie “Mind Fuck”: https://www.amazon.com/Mindf-Cambridge-Analytica-Break-America/dp/1984854631 IRB: https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/institutional-review-boards-frequently-asked-questions Ozan Varol “Think Like a Rocket Scientist”: https://www.amazon.com/Think-Like-Rocket-Scientist-Strategies/dp/1541762592 Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit# Charlotte Blank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-blank-52554a2/ Jeff Kreisler: http://jeffkreisler.com/ Neuromarketing World Forum: https://www.neuromarketingworldforum.com/ Darren Brown video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXe1CokWqQ John Bargh and Replication: https://replicationindex.com/2019/03/17/raudit-bargh/ Moral Foundations: https://moralfoundations.org/ Kids Priming video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TLf2gOrL1iM&app=desktop   Musical Links Depeche Mode: http://www.depechemode.com/ Sharon Van Etten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7sTHoeH0eA Gary Clark, Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXMDCNjl8M Guy Clark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Clark Ziggy Marley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggy_Marley New Order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_(band) The National: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_(band) Sha-Na-Na: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha_Na_Na Sinead O’Connor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O%27Connor Wolfman Jack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfman_Jack Iron & Wine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_%26_Wine Calexico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calexico_(band) Madison Cunningham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VSDUqVmnI

Broadcast on:
08 Mar 2020

John Fuisz is co-founder of Veriphix and a marketer who believes in building great brands. He does so with a sophisticated system that, on the surface, appears simple and direct; however, it’s built on his astute observations of consumer behavior, the clever use of data, and most importantly, it’s related to Annie Duke’s use of bets to measure future behaviors.

We wanted to talk to John because his work tracks the seemingly subtle, yet extremely powerful, ways our buying and voting behaviors can be influenced.

Veriphix connects brands with users with three primary tools: First, by tracking emotional vectors, to understand how we feel about things on a weekly basis by asking them to make bets about what they expect to feel. Second by monitoring the emotional triggers that get us to do the things we do. Lastly, he watches for the implicit delta, the measure of the emotional impact of an issue. And he does so with very strict ethical standards.

John believes that marketers should elevate their messaging to build great brands, not just influence our subconscious decision making. He wants to dilute the impact that nefarious actors have on consumers (and voters) by challenging us to a meaningful first step. He notes, “We want to believe we’re rational humans, but to have an effective defense [against bad actors], we have to admit we’re irrational.”

Please take a moment to rate Behavioral Grooves or leave us a review. Our podcast doesn’t have advertisers; rather, we rely on listeners like to you help us get the word out. Your help is greatly appreciated.

We hope you enjoy our conversation with John Fuisz.

Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates

Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan

© 2020 Behavioral Grooves

 

Links

John Fuisz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fuisz/

Veriphix: https://veriphix.com/

Annie Duke: https://www.annieduke.com/

“Thinking In Bets”: https://www.amazon.com/Annie-Duke/e/B001K88E4U/

Claire McCaskill “Korea”: https://www.vox.com/2018/8/20/17759574/midterm-russia-china-north-korea-iran-hack-cyber

DARPA: https://www.darpa.mil/

Christopher Wylie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wylie

“Mind Fuck”: https://www.amazon.com/Mindf-Cambridge-Analytica-Break-America/dp/1984854631

IRB: https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/institutional-review-boards-frequently-asked-questions

Ozan Varol “Think Like a Rocket Scientist”: https://www.amazon.com/Think-Like-Rocket-Scientist-Strategies/dp/1541762592

Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#

Charlotte Blank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-blank-52554a2/

Jeff Kreisler: http://jeffkreisler.com/

Neuromarketing World Forum: https://www.neuromarketingworldforum.com/

Darren Brown video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXe1CokWqQ

John Bargh and Replication: https://replicationindex.com/2019/03/17/raudit-bargh/

Moral Foundations: https://moralfoundations.org/

Kids Priming video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TLf2gOrL1iM&app=desktop

 

Musical Links

Depeche Mode: http://www.depechemode.com/

Sharon Van Etten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7sTHoeH0eA

Gary Clark, Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXMDCNjl8M

Guy Clark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Clark

Ziggy Marley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggy_Marley

New Order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_(band)

The National: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_(band)

Sha-Na-Na: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha_Na_Na

Sinead O’Connor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O%27Connor

Wolfman Jack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfman_Jack

Iron & Wine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_%26_Wine

Calexico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calexico_(band)

Madison Cunningham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VSDUqVmnI