In many companies, operations roles, whether it's RevOps, BizOps, or DevOps, are often pigeonholed into support functions. But Matt Curl, COO at Apollo, argues for a different approach: strong Ops. 

This model doesn’t just reduce pain points; it drives long-term value by shaping the business strategy.

Highlights include: Who Owns PMF vs. Who owns the customer (11:23), Who's The Customer? (37:30), And more…

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