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War of the Roses Part 2
This is the Mojo in the Morning podcast powered by Michigan Auto Law. AutoO accident attorneys visit autolaw.com. That's autolaw.com. Budget of the morning comments on the war of the roses. Aubrey and her husband Dan, with us, Aubrey suspects that her husband's cheating because they're swinging and they are set to do this at specific times together, but not set to be doing this outside of the relationship. And he has had communication with the person that they swing with outside. Scott, comment from you. What do you want to say? I just think it's kind of wild that when people, you know, give, give permission to do this, this guy's a man. You gave him permission to go and do things with other women. He's going to go do things with other women. And he is going to try and try and try to set this up as much as he possibly can. She needs to be thankful. He sent her the flowers because it doesn't seem like he's, you know, trying to start a relationship. He's just trying to do what they agreed upon. Scott, I get the idea that you do something like this. You're playing with fire, but to discount, but to discount her as much as you just discounted her. I don't think it's fair because they, they did have rules. And I don't know about you, but I follow all the rules. All rules are meant to be bent and broken. You are a bad boy. It's like telling the kid not to touch the hot stove. He's going to touch it. Oh, are you saying that? She's the hot stove. I'm saying that whoever they're messing around with is the hot stove. And he's playing with getting burnt. OK, so are we to say here that this couple open themselves up to this? Because anytime I talk to people about swinging, not mean, meaning me talking about wanting to swing, it's like we talk about a sure, sure, sure, sure. But any time I do, they all talk about these rules and stuff. And honestly, I do agree with the fact that, you know, you are playing with fire. But I think that if you're trying to be committed to your spouse as far as saying, all right, we're going to do agree to do this. Why do you? Why can't you just have your fun when everybody is there together? Why do you got to have your fun outside of this? It feels like I don't know that he's necessarily trying to have the fun outside of it. He made the comment that he was just trying to, you know, how do you, how do we set these things up? We have to communicate. So he is just trying to communicate and set this up as much as possible because he seems to enjoy it. Well, I feel like swinging. And I know it works for a lot of people. So no judgment here, but I think that it's like it creates a crack in your relationship. Even if you have, you think that you have solid rules. There's still that little crack that can snowball and get bigger and bigger and bigger. Doesn't it, can it be going to your point? Couldn't it be one of those things to where you, yeah, you realize maybe you like it and maybe you like it a lot. And maybe you like the one, the one, one of the people. Yes. It's like going very queen in the summertime. What do you think swinging does that or just people in general do that? I think, I think both. But I think that when the situation is presented to you and it just like exacerbates the situation, if you are, if there's already outside interest and then it's put right in front of you, and then how do you turn it off? It's like a water faucet, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Could you ever swing with your lovely lady, Cheryl? Nah, we did in that. No, I'm interested in this. I really want to try this. What would be your response? I mean, we don't need to be together. And if you really, if you want an open relationship, then we can discuss that. But we know about to just be out here. What if she said lead that to the playground? We're going to swing with Jay-Z and Beyonce again. You would win in that one. You got Beyonce. She got Jay-Z the players may change, but the rules don't. The game is the same. Not going to have it. What if you have a chance to have a relationship with Beyonce, though? Wouldn't that be amazing? Then we don't, we don't need to be together. If that's the case, then let's just be two single people. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. All right. Better not have them. Sam. Right. What's up? Oh, you know, I think she's overreacting. If she was confused or didn't want to do this, that's something that she should have expressed. She did it because he wanted to do it. And it's not, I have friends that are swingers. It's not uncommon for the male to communicate with the other couple, the female half, the other couple. I hear some friends all the time that do it. I just think you have to have, and like Shannon said, it causes these cracks. You have to have that open-minded communication. You don't always know how you feel about seeing your partner. Haven't have a sex life that includes other people. You might end up feeling neglected. In some cases, you may end up straight up jealous. And I think that's what this is. And if they're not talking about meeting up on a single date, just together, then I mean. So communication is OK, as long as they're not talking about actually fooling around. See, but to me, open communication is everybody. This is now closed communication because it's not between all participants. It needs to be a group phone call. Yeah, by the way, when you hear him say, I have friends who are swingers. Is that like the people that will say, I have friends who are black or they'll say, I have friends who are gay, yeah, yeah, I don't have friends who are swingers. I've talked to swingers on the show, but I don't have friends that are swingers that I know of. I don't either. And I think my wife would kill me if I did, not that if I did. But even if the conversation came up a little bit, she would kill me. There's no way that could ever happen. Like, what are you guys doing on Saturday night? Would you guys like to come over with the family? Are you asking me that? No, you guys are acting like the only thing swingers do is swing. Well, let's let's talk to a swinger. Hailey is on with us right now. Hailey. Hi. Oh, your voice sounds strange. Your voice disguised, right? Yes, I am. So what's the story? What are your thoughts on this? War of the Roses, a wife expecting that her husband's cheating with the couple that they swing with. He sends the flowers to her. Well, first off, I'm super happy that he sends them to her. My husband and I tried swinging last year around the summertime, very briefly. You do everything in a group chat. You, I mean, you scope for couples in a group saying you, once you find a couple, you talk to everybody in a group chat that way. Everybody is in the know. Nobody can have that opportunity to get jealous. Yeah, you just open communication involves everybody, not everybody. And you do something on the outside that causes so many cracks. Now, I noticed that you said we tried swinging and that there was no present tense in there that we are swingers. So what happened? So my husband and I, we are very, I mean, for great communicators and we do all of that. We had all those basic rules. Basically, it just was one of those kind of rusting too quick. And it was one thing that we had and talked about. And it just kind of killed it for us. Whose idea was it to swing? Was it yours or yours? Well, we've been together for 16 years. So it was his originally, but as, you know, you're together for so long. And, you know, I just feist things up every once in a while. I was, I was for it. I finally was comfortable with myself and everything with it was comfortable in our relationship. And it actually made us a lot stronger last year, even though we ran into an issue with it. Oh, this was last year? Last summer. Last summer. Yeah. Yeah. It was, we're kind of like nearing like the one year anniversary. And we're like, yeah, maybe this isn't for us. Um, yeah. It was just one of those. It made us closer. It made us closer because we were able to communicate about everything. Does, since it was his idea, does he introduce you to the person or like, who picks the couple that you swing with? Do you already have some money in mind or like, how do you find it? Well, the way that we did it, um, there's like swinging websites that you can be a part of. Um, and then you just kind of scope numbers and, you know, B.M. because him and I had the same profile and it was all groupy at the password, I had the password and then we would just set things up with couples and then when we would exchange phone numbers, it was all in a group chat. Wow. Imagine being the, like, Kev Mojo, could you imagine going to your wife at all ever and saying, Hey, yeah, or hey, hey, sweetheart, I have this idea. All right. It's really going to spice things up. It's really going to, you know, just make our sex life amazing. Let's bring another girl into the relationship. Yeah. I have to be very comfortable with yourself, that's why it took me 16 years to do it. Yeah. Isn't that how you approach yourself in your relationship? Isn't that how you approach any new kind of sexual experience in your relationship? Bring it up and discussing. Yeah, but it's different between a toy and a person. Yeah. I don't know. I will say this though, Megan, if I said another person, Chelsea would, that would, she would be at work. No, she would automatically assume that I was cheating with that other person. Are you know what I mean? Another voice. This guy's caller Taylor, who is also, are you a swinger? Is that right? I'm a swinger. X-winger. Similar to this situation here, right? No communication out of the swinging. Correct. Well, it was supposed to be if we're going to set things up, he would talk to the other man. Say that again. I'm sorry. We got okay. He would, he would, he would talk to the guy. Is that what you said? He was. He was supposed to. That was out of the room. He's supposed to talk to the guy or I would talk to the girl. It was in, if we were in any private conversation, it should have been the same sex conversation. You know, I'm going to talk to the other guy because that's what happened. He was talking to her. Uh oh. He would have sent me the flowers. He would have done the same thing. He would have sent me the flowers because it, it took me a year to figure out that they had something going on on the side. Oh. This is, this is going back, I'm telling you, I'm old, this is going back 20 years, seven of the couples that we knew, because we used to do the dances and everything, are all divorced. Wow. Shannon had brought up, and Shannon had brought up about, you know, cause the crack, no, there's already a crack if you're going in this way. Because one, one party or the other wants something to happen, wants something else. That's the point. Yeah. And this is their way to go about it without getting divorced. Yeah. But yeah, it took me a year to figure out that, and the other thing I was going to say is, swingers should be in the same room. When you start operating into separate rooms, there's separate conversations going on. There's private things happening. Sure. And that's when there's a different connection happening. Yeah. Wow. Well, that, you know what that brings? Honestly, a lot of validity to this, you know, and it's, I don't know. I just look at it like, I know if we swam and did some swinging, I would be the one that would be holding the camera. And I don't want to be. You know what I mean? I don't want to be the camera operator. Hey, guys. Could I join? It would be the, you know, you're already in media. You probably know how to work this thing. I don't want to be part of this. I'm going to update on this couple will be coming up. If you miss the war of the roses, the swingers who think that the swinging is turned into cheating, you got to go check out the podcast. It's available on the Mojo in the Morning Show podcast. Search for us anywhere you get your podcasts. I'm Victoria Cash, and I want to invite you to a place called Lucky Land, where you can play over a hundred social casino style games for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. So what are you waiting for? The best way to discover your luck is to spin. So go to luckylandslots.com. That's luckylandslots.com. And get lucky today at Lucky Land. No purchase necessary. We're prohibited by law, 18-plus terms and conditions apply.