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Episode 67: Humility, Compassion, and Reflection with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi, Ed.D., BCBA, LBA, and Dr. Jonathan Tarbox, Ph.D., BCBA-D

In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more.   Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done.  I have so much gratitude for Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi's mentorship. She has taught me so much about recognizing and acknowledging my own biases (and do I ever have A LOT of biases) and most of all she taught me the true value of sitting with my discomfort. Similarly, Dr. Tarbox has been such a model for me. He has shown me over and over again how someone with so much power and privilege in our field can use that power to be of service to others and uplift voices. SO MUCH GRATITUDE!    Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 2.0 Ethics IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics  QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics   Articles Referenced: Cirincione-Ulezi, N. (2020). Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Behav Analysis Practice, 13, 719–724. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00444-9 Strauss, C., Lever Taylor, B., Gu, J., Kuyken, W., Baer, R., Jones, F., & Cavanagh, K. (2016). What is compassion and how can we measure it? A review of definitions and measures. Clinical psychology review, 47, 15–27. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpr.2016.05.004 Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. (2022). ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9   The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced: Grant Bruno: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins Elizabeth Hughes-Fong: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-53-cultural-competence-in-behaviour-analysis-how-far-have-we-come-with-dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong Terra Vance Episodes: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-54; https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-55-applied-behavior-analysis-reform-is-it-even-a-possiblity-with-terra-vance-part-2 May Beaubrun Episode: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba   Web Links: Jen Ashlee - Link Raven Winged Consulting IG page https://www.ravenwinged.com https://www.instagram.com/raven_winged_consulting Monica Smiley BCBA https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-smiley-06b02639/ Tarbox Behavioural View Episode https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-behavioral-view-2-compassionate-care-with/id1569666510?i=1000523311432 Marshal Rosenberg Non-Violent Communication https://www.amazon.ca/Nonviolent-Communication-Compassion-Marshall-Rosenberg/dp/1892005026  
Broadcast on:
03 Feb 2023

In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more.  

Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done.  I have so much gratitude for Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi's mentorship. She has taught me so much about recognizing and acknowledging my own biases (and do I ever have A LOT of biases) and most of all she taught me the true value of sitting with my discomfort. Similarly, Dr. Tarbox has been such a model for me. He has shown me over and over again how someone with so much power and privilege in our field can use that power to be of service to others and uplift voices. SO MUCH GRATITUDE! 

 

Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop

  • BACB: 2.0 Ethics
  • IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics 
  • QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics

 

Articles Referenced:

  • Cirincione-Ulezi, N. (2020). Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Behav Analysis Practice, 13, 719–724. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00444-9
  • Strauss, C., Lever Taylor, B., Gu, J., Kuyken, W., Baer, R., Jones, F., & Cavanagh, K. (2016). What is compassion and how can we measure it? A review of definitions and measures. Clinical psychology review, 47, 15–27. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpr.2016.05.004
  • Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. (2022). ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9

 

The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:

 

Web Links:

 

In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more.   Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done.  I have so much gratitude for Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi's mentorship. She has taught me so much about recognizing and acknowledging my own biases (and do I ever have A LOT of biases) and most of all she taught me the true value of sitting with my discomfort. Similarly, Dr. Tarbox has been such a model for me. He has shown me over and over again how someone with so much power and privilege in our field can use that power to be of service to others and uplift voices. SO MUCH GRATITUDE!    Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop BACB: 2.0 Ethics IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics  QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics   Articles Referenced: Cirincione-Ulezi, N. (2020). Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Behav Analysis Practice, 13, 719–724. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00444-9 Strauss, C., Lever Taylor, B., Gu, J., Kuyken, W., Baer, R., Jones, F., & Cavanagh, K. (2016). What is compassion and how can we measure it? A review of definitions and measures. Clinical psychology review, 47, 15–27. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpr.2016.05.004 Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. (2022). ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9   The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced: Grant Bruno: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins Elizabeth Hughes-Fong: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-53-cultural-competence-in-behaviour-analysis-how-far-have-we-come-with-dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong Terra Vance Episodes: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-54; https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-55-applied-behavior-analysis-reform-is-it-even-a-possiblity-with-terra-vance-part-2 May Beaubrun Episode: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba   Web Links: Jen Ashlee - Link Raven Winged Consulting IG page https://www.ravenwinged.com https://www.instagram.com/raven_winged_consulting Monica Smiley BCBA https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-smiley-06b02639/ Tarbox Behavioural View Episode https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-behavioral-view-2-compassionate-care-with/id1569666510?i=1000523311432 Marshal Rosenberg Non-Violent Communication https://www.amazon.ca/Nonviolent-Communication-Compassion-Marshall-Rosenberg/dp/1892005026