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Well, I'm trying to make sure all the appropriate buttons are pressed. [LAUGHTER] Okay, because it's Tuesday, we're on RadioSoapbox.com. Thanks to Paul, our buddy from across the pond, for the first hour anyways. We're also on 106.9 WVO UFM in Chicago, thanks to our buddy Allen at WDRN Productions. And other platforms that he brings to us are homenetwork.tv, freedomnation.tv. Go live.tv and streamlife.tube. Our flagship station, of course, is Eurofolkradio.com, Broadway.com, my pastor, Eli James, awesome guy, awesome guy. And we're on Global Voice Radio Network. The links to Eurofolk and Global Voice are on the matrix.docs.docs.com and also the link to free conference calls so you can join us live on the show. All right. I'm talking about stuffed up this morning. One would think that maybe, one would think that I almost got dumped on by like 16 inches of snow. I can't imagine how sinus stuff would happen like that. Did you get 16 nice inches of the white stuff? I think total so far this year. Oh, this year. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've had to shovel my car out four times the last week. Oh, my God. Well, the devil went down to Georgia and maybe Paul will get down there eventually too. So hopefully it'll be a little warmer, a little friendlier and a little better on you overall as you soldier in South there, Paul, we're trying to help you get down there. So anyway, thank you, my friend. We are accessible, as you can tell from that list of stations and good people. Come a long way, this project. We had a situation with Mr. Rod there at the end of the show yesterday and he was going to come back this morning. Rod, are you with us? Yes, I am. Can you hear me loud and clear, man? Yeah. Okay. Great. And your query yesterday, let's see if I can get it conjured up and you were looking at the passport application, I believe, which you never have filed, even though you filed your affidavit previously. And so you were asking about some of the questions surrounding the passport application and particularly residencies, what we were discussing that I remember. Is that right, Rod? No, not exactly. Let me recap, I have been listening one of your shows and that show you mentioned how things, how you started the process and you were in Florida and I remember now, you were okay, okay, so you were my understanding to recap. Yeah, your question was, I was telling the story about my first initial thing there in the Panama City Post Office and the fact that I didn't want to show them a Tennessee driver's license because it prima facia evidence residency, is that correct? That's correct. And by the way, I forgot to mention, my wife is here and she's listening and she might have a question. We're both in this situation a little different than mine, but we'll get where both. You know, we're all here for you too right now and people that have questions, that's the reason we're here. It's when people don't come forward like you and your wife that we discuss other things like we'll probably do in the back part of the show, fantastic, interesting things which are not only interesting, but they're a real reflection on our culture and society where we've been taken. So let's get you and your wife in what's your wife's name, Rod? Sylvia. Sylvia? Can you speak? Yeah. Yeah, I think it was Sylvia. Oh, hi, Sylvia. Okay. Well, let's deal with rods first and then we'll come back and check with you. Okay. Okay. All right. Since we're already into it is why, otherwise, I'd defer to the female, but here since we're already into this, it's a transition from yesterday and we're familiar with the facts, let's go ahead and address it, Rod. Okay. Okay. So my understanding, so correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding is that you decided to get around that because the guy at the passport office was not accepting the fact that you could have used a couple of witnesses that knew you and the guy which wasn't doing it. So you went and got a state ID. Correct. And in my situation, I have already had a, I live in Montana and I already have a Montana driver's license. That's okay. And I've learned a lot since then, I wouldn't handle it that way now, I'm not sure of may have, but it's not going to be an obstacle for you. In other words, just because you were mistakenly tricked into saying you're a resident to get a driver's license issued, which they require or they get real nasty on the side of the road and stuff. So, and it's okay, it doesn't negate or cancel your affidavit. And it's just because they used fraud to get you to say that. So that's part of it. I don't think it's any kind of a stumbling block or a non-starter type issue, Rod. If that's what you're inquiring about. Was that because I just for my own understanding that because you, your process of learning about this, you had filed the affidavit with the property, the property assessor's office or something to do with property assessor. Well you've got your local property roles in every county where they've got all of that stuff registered and they're what's called their open, like the legal organ, if you got a big enough city or maybe in where you are in Montana, they just put it in the back of the newspaper. Okay, that's considered the legal organ and that constitutes the first end of what we call due process, notice and the right to be heard. That's why people put things in places like that because it's the public and if you haven't gone in there and found it, well I guess that's your fault, didn't it? Because you hadn't been looking at the public records, right? That's the theory. Okay, so yes, we were instructed to file there with John and Glenn because they didn't know this Secretary of State stuff that we're teaching now that we understand. If they would have known that 30 years ago, we may live in a different world right now. That's how dramatic that piece of information applied correctly is because you've got to do it with him first, that opens the key to the kingdom, okay? And they didn't know that. So their idea was to file it in the local property records office, which I did, all of us did, all right? And so that's the difference is you can file it there and I had that paper with me, but it doesn't happen filed with the Secretary of State and that it doesn't hold water at that point. Okay. You with me? So yeah, basically you had to know who the Lord of the manner was before you did it. Exactly. Okay, well, let's go into this a little bit. You know, that is the Secretary of State's position, but why is he the Lord of the manner in that circumstance? And the reason is because he's always been the official that's responsible for issuing passports. And a passport by his very definition is a document that presents you to foreign countries in your proper legal personality where you get your rights into whom you owe your duties. And so that's why this whole thing is button hold at the Secretary of State and the passport. We didn't used to have you send anything to the Secretary of State. That's a relatively new last five, four, five years improvement on the process. Used to for all the first years, it just filed for a renewal passport or an initial one because that's your legal personality and that's what we're changing. See, you with the affidavit, it changes your legal personality from a federal citizen under the 14th amendment to an old, what they called a state citizen now a national with God given rights and duties. And so that's your legal personality and they run this whole thing under a theory. It appears called presumption of law and a presumption of law, if you go look at it in black law dictionary, it says it's a conclusion based upon another fact. So they're deferring to another place where they committed fraud and acting like it's legal and jumping forward with the presumption of law. And if you don't send that affidavit and attach it into that package, they're going to keep you under the presumption law because every time they ever ask you your entire life, are you a citizen, are you a resident and you said yes and sign something, didn't you? Well, there's their presumption. Well, we ask him, he told us he ought to know what he is, ignorance of the laws, no excuse. Oh, hell, he's our serve. He didn't tell us any different. So that's how we're going to proceed. So that little thing, that passport inside that office is why everything revolves around that. Make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Okay. So did you have any other questions? Can you hear me? But you know, listen, yeah, I'm here. You find you flipping a little bit ago, but you know, I've grown through this too. I mean, it's me teaching you people what's going on here that has shown me what's going on here. And that's why I tell the folks, I go, Oh my God, they're wringing their hands. There's so much information. I have to learn all that. Hey, I just, well, you want to learn it? Teach it to other people. That's the fastest way you're going to learn it because you're going to find out what you know and what you don't know. And what you don't know, you go back and plug that hole and you go find somebody else to teach it to. That's the way you're going to learn real fast. You can get it to other ways, obviously, but that's what has improved me over all these years of going over it and fielding these questions and after the show's over, I go back and start thinking about it and how can I set it better? Is this really the way it is? There are no other options. You know, those kind of things. And that's how we've perfected this, Ron. Yeah. Okay. So did you need any other clarification on anything? And if not, I'm going to turn to your lovely wife there. I might think of something later, but yeah, go ahead and speak with her. All right. Okay, good. Good, Ron. Nice to speak with you. As you look, if these things are still unclear to you, please come back. I mean, this is the forum for it as I used to say when I was a teacher, the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked, okay, so there's probably there's other people that have the same question and they're too scared to ask too. So the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked. Sylvia, how are you? I'm good. Thank you. Okay. Do you have some questions? Hear me? Yes, ma'am. Do you have some questions? Yeah. I was wondering, you know, we're talking about keeping the driver's license just a not be household by cops and all that good stuff. Yes, which is what I suggest. I have a license here that what I suggest to people and drive under the speed limit and be a be a good though. Look, this that I don't believe from talking to both of you that traffic is your battle. Okay. And it's some people it is. Some people like to do it. It's just that if you choose to fight those things, if you don't know anything about it, and you're going to all of a sudden choose to fight it, you have no idea what's going to happen to your life. You may win. Okay. But it doesn't matter. They literally make you put your life on the back burner. I don't think that's a battle we need to fight today, but that's your decision. Okay. So I would suggest, yes, that you just keep it and go on about your life and just don't speed, don't do anything stupid and go on about your world. What part of Montana are y'all in? Okay. You're not you're not out in Flathead County. Are you? Callispell. Yes, we are. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you got a whole group of you got a whole group of folks out there that are under Gary and Gina. Do you go there meetings? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We just saw them last night. Gary is probably listening in. Okay. Good, good deal then. Okay. Well, that makes a lot easier. You got an awful lot of people there around you. Yeah. Okay. I still wanted to ask you something regarding the. Okay. Well, that's fine. Sylvia, I'm right here. Okay. So I have a license here that's good for like at least 10 years or something. Let's say we move to another state and have to get a license at that state. I'm wondering when you fill out the form, they ask you for a citizen. No, the question that we're told that they add no, the question we're told that they ask is, are you a resident, not a citizen? Okay. Okay. So, and it's hypothetical. Are y'all thinking about moving to another state? You got to better. You want to move like the California or someplace? No, been there done that. Okay. Well, sounds like you're probably going to stay up there. That's a nice part of the country. You want to be freedom people with that's the largest group of people concentrated in a county that we have in the whole country is where you are. You got plenty of help and support there and wonderful leaders in Gary and Gina. Okay. So, if that, let's put it this way. If you were changing and moving to another state, and you go into the state's laws and then they start saying, well, a resident is somebody who's been here for 30 days or more. You're not a resident to anything. Okay. Because the residency is not to the state, it's to the state for the 14th amendment and the state wherein they reside. You don't reside anymore. So that really wouldn't apply to you, would it? Right. Okay. Well, there's your answer. People give out a license and say you're not a resident. They would what? They would still give you a license if you say you're not a resident. No, ma'am. I don't think you will, but the incident we had was in the state adjacent to you in Idaho, and this was a few years back. And one of our guys, real Brian Howard was his name. We hadn't heard from him in a while, but he was an early student, heard me on Joyce years ago, the first time. And so he was a University of Texas scholarship football player, defensive back for four years. The guys like fearless, you know, two daughters and he was in insurance, he moved up to Boise. And he heard me talking one day on the air here that I had read in an Oklahoma state handbook to prepare you for the Oklahoma driver's test and all that, that it said we can issue licenses to nationals as long as they can prove they're a national and that their parents were nationals. Well, in this deal, it doesn't matter what your parents were, because you, in all the underlying stuff, you can volunteer out at any time. But anyway, that's what I read. We were talking about it on the air, Brian goes, well, I'm up here in Idaho. I need a driver's license. I got a Texas license. So he says, I'll do it. And so he went to the driver's license division and asked the girl and she asked him the question, are you a resident? And he said, no. And she goes, well, I can't issue you a license. He said, well, I want a non resident driver's license. And she said, I can't issue that. And he said, let me speak to your supervisor. The supervisor came and she said, no, we can't do that. We'd instructed Brian and anybody else here, if you get into one of these urinate matches like that, your next question at that point is, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? Because you're in the administrative section of the law. And so he did. He said, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? And it was in Idaho, they hire attorneys. They don't have on staff people, they handle appeals. So the attorney contacts him and says, I'll call you at five or four o'clock on such and such a date. Well, Brian was sitting there by the phone and four o'clock came and four o'clock went and the attorney didn't call. And Brian got on there and blistered his ass in an email. And so the guy resets the appointment by God. The next time he calls on the notes and he rules against him. So he says, what's the next step in my administrative appeal? Well now it's the director of transportation of the state of Idaho. He's the head knocker. So we get into a paperwork of Ollie back and forth and they try and pull every dirty trick in the book. Oh, you didn't get it in on time and you didn't do this and you didn't do that. And we prevailed through all that crap. The guy would never sign one piece of paper. He always had somebody sign it for him and you couldn't have interpreted his guy's signature with a friggin Rosetta stone. So we went through three of those. And finally on the last one, he says, we can't issue a driver's license anyone who's not a resident. Took all that to get that. Okay. Okay. So there's the whole story behind it for everybody. Yeah, this is the stickiest wicket of the whole deal because we never get any blowback from the feds. You guys aren't on here saying, well, what if the IRS comes and breaks down my door? Well, that ain't going to happen, okay, but it's all traffic crap. And the reason for that is because you're dealing with local fiefdoms and the kings and their court, the sheriff and the mayor and whatever the power structure is. Its judge Roy Bean is the hanging judge and boss hog is the sheriff and they don't want Rod and Sylvia telling them what the law is and stealing their power that they think they have. And they have always had over other bodies, other people's. But now you've found the secret to the key to the city and now you're different and they don't like it and you can't vary that from county to county. There's no consistency. That's the problem. When I say you don't want it, don't want it. If you don't want it to be a problem, drive under the speed limit, stop at stop signs of bay traffic laws and you'll never have a problem with it. Capiche? Okay. Yeah. Cause they'll know their alternative I see is who I'm being a national and like, go to get. Well, I'm sorry, Sylvia, you're clipping a little bit on your connection there. I didn't really understand what you said you want to try and say it again. We're going to call the computer because this is really a huge delay. So you say after we speak, I think there's a delay. Yeah, there is your. Yeah. Yeah. Something. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Sylvia. Tell us again, because you were clipping a minute ago. I think the only alternative I could see around this mess, if every state is as confrontational is to not go national until the move and then get the license and then go national in another state and then kind of basically still get on. I think you're making it really too complex and you're very scared of this driver's license thing for some reason and I don't think you should and no, I don't agree with that at all because you're waiting until everybody else goes and until that gets straightened out and there's nobody to straighten it out but us. So you know, this is your decision on whether you want to stay in the little pink cloud or you want to be free. And I'm not going to tell you which one of those to make, but that's your decision. Roger. Yes. Merka. Just wanted to let her know. She can notice, Rod and her, could notice the DMV and have that in the administrative file, even if they may not, you know, I don't know if they'll accept it or not, but it's there and you use your license until you're ready not to. She still gives up a mindset that she's waiting for permission. You can't wait for permission. This is your decision and you press the envelope on your freedom. You're looking at it a long way. My advice. Okay. We have to learn getting knowledge about what we're doing. We have to get the arms on what we're doing. What you're doing, you're letting fear control you. And I don't believe that's the way to approach this because the fear is still, okay. But you, it's your decision. You make it on your own. So be, you know, the animated cost of freedom. That's what Thomas Jefferson called it. And yeah. Well, so you might get pulled up, pulled over, hand him your passport ID, your passport card. Okay. See how they react. The only way we found out answers is just like the story I told you a minute ago with Brian Howard on pressing the envelope. And if you sit back on a wall, I'd be a wallflower waiting for everything to unfold in front of you, you're not going to get those answers. And you're probably not going to go anywhere. And your freedom's not going to mean much to you if you're still waiting over there scared of them. Yes. Who was saying Roger there? Those mean people are frauds. So I mean, I guess everyone here for the most part probably knows that I have a big issue with this whole driving thing. But I understand that the, that hasn't seen about the driver's license, but I don't see why she can't just sign it, you know, like when she goes and updates the driver's license to sign it without prejudice, you know, just reserving all your rights. Well, sometimes they won't let you do that. You know, Jim Ram did that. And one of the state inspectors showed up at his house. He's a retired cop, showed up at his house and behind him in the driveway. He said, you got to give us that license go get another one. So they won't let you in at some places if they catch it. Yeah, I had a few people doing it and they've, they've had success. So I haven't signed it, not a sunset without prejudice. And the DMV is allowing him to go through, not in all places, but most places seem to be just kind of taking it that way. So now, you know, Sylvia Joe here is the one that pioneered and found at the Department of Transportation, where you can go on and register your vehicle as a private vehicle. Did you know that? Sylvia, Okay, anyway, you can go register your vehicle as a private vehicle and put that DOT number as a tag number, have a special play made. There's a lot of things you can do, but I would suggest if you want to be free that you may be change your perspective and I know that's difficult because they've got heavy Pavlovian conditioning on you and realize you're not, they're not to be scared of. They're scared of you and you've got to get that attitude. You don't think they're scared of you, listen to the story of Joe here and his whole Lord deal with them. They're scared as hell of this information. Yeah, that's true. I've only entered court one time since, since the last incident occurred and they've kicked me out of the courtroom several times, without me even facing a judge. It's been pretty interesting, but I will tell you that one of the guys who followed my steps to getting the number and stuff, he drove to the store, went shopping when he came out to sheriff standing outside his car waiting for him and he's like, "What's going on?" And the guy goes, "I noticed that your truck here is registered to a private trust and that it's exempt from all the motor vehicle statutes. How did you do that?" And so he just told him, he said, "Well, the Department of Transportation has an exemption for private travelers." He goes, "I noticed that," and the sheriff was impressed, "Can you come down and talk to my deputies about it?" So he went down there and told the deputies about it. And they did invite some police from other, I think they invited sheriffs from the surrounding towns. Really? You don't have to hold us this before. Yeah, not the sheriff, sorry. They invited the sergeants from the different police departments to come in and sit in. And one of the sergeants said to them, they said, "Is this a sovereign citizen thing?" And he looks up the guy and goes, "I don't know what that is." And he goes, "Okay, all right." And that was the only time they brought that up in that whole thing, but he sat there or stood there for like an hour going over the information and he said, "Joe, I just pulled everything off of your videos and just handed it out to them." That's all I did. And then just read that stuff to him. And see, here's the irony to me, is Sylvia and Ron live in the highest concentration of nationals. We got in the whole damn world out there. They ought to feel super secure. There's over 50 plus people come to those Monday night meetings, the Gary and Janus. They're not 50 nationals in any other county that I know of. Okay, so you ought to feel real secure out there. And how about all of you going up and going to the sheriff and educating your sheriff out there in Flathead County? So you guys need to go do some more study and get your confidence up or whatever and realize what laws you live under is your choice, not theirs. That's the reason they've gone to all this trouble to turn this around and hide everything in these little whippy little questions and stuff so they can get you to agree with them. Well, turn around and disagree with them. It's your choice, not theirs. If it's their choice, it's open tyranny. Yes, Mark. They have to learn the information taken, who they are as a private individual. Well, if people don't read and educate themselves on all this, then they won't understand who they are out of the U.S. system. So it's important. Well, I'll tell you, the only way you're going to get over that fear factor, the Sylvia evidence to us is studying the information and learning that you've got the power. That's the only way you're going to overcome that. They're private in the public, so we need to learn what that means. Yes, so Ron and Sylvia, how else can we help you? The whole thing is over the driver's license thing. Keep a driver's license. They can't require you to have something that's going to change your status. It's not going to change your status because they required you to have it through fraud. But you've got to get over the hurdle there of being scared of these people. It's the only thing I know to tell you. So are you all still there, Rod and Sylvia? It seems like they were having, no, it seems like they were having that excuse. Okay, well, listen, if you're there, I don't know what else to tell you at this stage. And if you can get your connection right, you got other questions, come back in and we'll try and deal with them. So who else has got something this morning? I got a question. I have to talk about that. Okay, there's a question. Who are you? This is Sketch. Sketch. Hey, I hope you're doing well. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but you mentioned that the head honch over there in Idaho wouldn't even sign his paperwork. He wouldn't sign it. I saw three examples of it. Yeah, I understand that. So that's not due process. So I feel like there's this division between, I want to say concepts, the statutory framework doesn't allow due process to have standing. And you know, someone got too sketch. Due process is at the base of all the laws. It's got to recognize it and incorporate it somehow. If it's not, it's not law. It's dictums. If it's dictums, it's tyranny. Right. But when you're like, if you go into a local feast and then you bring up the constitution, they can't deal with it. Right? Sorry. Well, if you're a citizen, if you're a citizen in the United States, they can't, but by all concepts, you're national, you shouldn't be even in there because those traffic laws are made, man-made laws. You know, I remember license, license defined is the permission to do something which is otherwise illegal. I agree totally. I'm just saying that there's this division in our heads or some people's heads, that it's all the same. I don't think it is. Well, no, it's not all the same and they better get those differentiation straight and defined or else they're going to be just happy little slaves the rest of their life. Sketch? Yep. Yep. I agree. Are you? Okay. All right. Who else has got something here? None of you, none of you, Cal Boyce and Cal girls? All right, now let's move into this other thing. The assassination of the health care guy, Brian Thompson, I believe is his name? There's a lot coming out on that. It's quite an interesting situation and a lot of information. They've caught the guy that shot him, they think, by the way. If you haven't heard this yet, I'm just going to try and regurgitate what I've served this morning a little bit. From Harrison Show, it's all over the news. They caught the guy, his name is Mangione, Luigi Mangione, I believe, from a very wealthy family in Maryland, big prep school and Ivy League degrees and a PhD. And 10 children, at least there's 10 children listed as the beneficiaries because their fortune is made on health insurance in Maryland. They have 10 different health care homes for old, elderly people and some other holdings and some other stuff. I can't remember it all. Anyway, this is their son, one of the oldest ones that did this murder. And evidently he had a very bright guy, supposedly, and had been out in Hawaii and got injured in a surfing accident. And they botched the surgery in Hawaii, went to Japan for a while, totally distanced himself from the family and everybody and went bonkers and went and ambushed this guy in New York and killed him. His name was Brian Thompson, he's from Iowa. It's not the big CEO and the evil company, but let me, before I go into him, let me tell you what I've found out about their company. Their company's one of the biggest providers of health insurance out there, United Health Insurance, I think, something. And they've also got the highest percentage of cases that they discharge, that they reject the people asking for insurance. I was talking to a friend of mine who's in insurance, actually, in health insurance in Atlanta, old friend, many decades, who hadn't talked in a while and we were talking about this. He asked me what I thought about it. I was over the weekend or last week and I said, "Well, yeah, pretty interesting, you know, for sure." And he said, "Well, Eyetna, another big giant insurance thing, health insurance, they only have 4% of applications that they reject, United Health Care had 30-something percent that they rejected." And that evidently is what caused this. But the guy that got killed, Thompson, was just a, he was trying to straighten the system out. He was from Iowa, his father worked in a grain elevator, he'd gone through school, went to University of Iowa, distinguished himself, et cetera, got into the health business, worked his way up to the president of this company and he was actually trying to straighten some of these problems out at the meeting last year, the shareholders meeting. His theory was, "I'm going to try and set it up where we reward doctors that do preventative stuff for their patients and not pay the ones that just deal with them when they're sick." So he was trying to straighten out a lot of these problems within the system. This guy had a problem that didn't get evidently, he's what I'm saying at this point, didn't get his situation. And so he took it out on the guy that he perceived as the evil CEO, who was the good guy CEO. Hell, it's something like a $5 billion plus insurance agency and they only paid this guy a million and a half dollars a year. Because the CEO's making credible amounts of money, he got paid a million and a half a year in what the largest health insurance company in the business, I guess. So it's really interesting the way it's developing. As the facts come out and we'll see, I don't believe this guy, Mangione, he's been charged yet, but they caught him, now here's another whole facet to the thing. How do you think they caught him? A McDonald's employee recognized him from the pictures they've released and blew the whistle on him. They caught him with the gun. They caught him with $10,000 in cash, $8,000 US, a passport and $2,000 foreign. They didn't say what denomination. He said the money was planted, it wasn't his. So there's all kinds of stuff that's going to come out of this and it's just a really interesting, unusual situation because all the lefties are praising him for killing the evil CEO and it wasn't the evil CEO, it was the good CEO. So it's just a real perverse situation and I want to talk about it. At least I'll let you know what's happening because it is so perverse and so interesting as our culture is kind of so screwed up by these damn communist bastards. Do you think maybe that guy was paid by some of those CEOs or other corporate people that wanted to get that guy out of the picture? I don't think we know any of that yet, Joe, that hadn't even charged the guy yet. He hadn't been in touch with anybody in years, there was somebody I wrote on one of his sites that said I hadn't heard from you in a while but I need to know because you're committed to be in my wedding and I want to see if you're still going to be in my wedding. And so I just don't know all the facts, I know a little bit of what I've told you and what I heard Harrison cover this morning that I could retain but it's a hell of an interesting situation because he wasn't a bad guy at all, he was a good guy. And the guy that shot him, the vigilante, if you will, was the bad guy from the rich family, the wacko, Robert, all damn world's upside down, yeah Dave. So I heard earlier today on ABC News on the radio that he was charged with murder. Okay, well I had, that's what all I heard is what Harrison told me, you may have heard some later information, yep. And you know I had heard the day that happened that he was on his way to some kind of meeting and I didn't catch what it was in my buddy shot me today. I was a shareholder meeting I believe. My buddy told me today that it was an insider trading meeting and Nancy Pelosi was involved. It sounds like a Manchurian candidate to me. The guy had two sons, I mean he didn't sound like an insider trading kind of guy. You know? No, no, I'm not saying he was a Manchurian candidate, you know, because of what happened to him. They picked him and I'll bet you any money he's on some kind of psychographics and they're going to, that'll come out later, but he's got a handler and it's a shrink and Nancy Pelosi's involved. I'll bet you up to her neck. Well, I'll tell you that's a lot of speculation there Dave, I'm going to let you work out. I'll do a lot of them back. I do a lot of studying, I hear about this stuff all day long every day and I'm telling you she's got her hands in it believe it. That's my opinion, but my buddy heard it and he don't listen to a whole lot of stuff. And he heard Nancy was involved, it's something about insider trading and that was my second thought. My first thought when I first heard it was that this guy, it was a justice killing or a mercy or a revenge, you know, the insurance company denied or killed or somebody something like that. I think that's what it was, then I thought later, you know what, they're probably setting them up because they want our guns, they got to get our guns. And if they don't get our guns, they can't do what they plan on doing. So that's another reason to get the people to say, we got to do something. Okay. All right, well, you don't don't grab a saw and try and cut that limb out underneath. Don't know. I guess we're going to find out some as we go forward, but it's very interesting. It's just a total twist on the way it appeared initially. And like I said, it'll be very interesting. I think he said the mother had some kind of a back problem too. I just, I heard, I'll say it again, a disclaimer, all I, I'm going off is what I heard Harrison go over this morning before we went on the air. So interesting situation, anybody else got any comments on that? Nobody. So you don't think it's interesting? Are you out there audience? Are you there? I think it's interesting. I think it's interesting. I just haven't seen the news on it, Roger. Well, you'll have to bone up on it. There's a lot to absorb there, but it is kind of a nothing that it appeared to be is apparently what it is. Excuse me. And so who else, who else can we service this morning? Yes, ma'am. Can we help you? Hey, I just know, yeah, it's interesting about that CEO murder and everything. But it's all over the news. And you know what people say about the news, the media, mainstream news on the TV? You can't, it's like, well, I don't, we don't know if it's lies yet, but let me ask you, there's also another lie called the lie of omission and that what you're not seeing is anything on Syria too much. And the, the, the conclusion that one has to reach when you look at the facts of that ugly situation is that Israel was behind the whole damn thing with our, with our CIA's help because we've been stealing their oil over there for years in the oil patch in Syria. The US has been just pumping it and stealing it. So Assad didn't have any money to pay his army as Israel coordinated three different forces to basically blitzkrieg the country and get Assad out of power. I don't know if Assad was a good guy or not. Okay. But I do know that Israel, it seems was behind all of it, maybe in connection with even Turkey, who they apparently on the surface are at odds with, but maybe not underneath. And the fact that that incident of his abdication is going to change the face of the Middle East from here forward. So that's an, though, so now we got all the health insurance, the CEO news, but you're not hearing hardly any of that, are you? So selective, selective, selective enlightenment, I guess you could call it. Yikes. So all right. John, good to hear your voice. I hope everything's all right down there in Costa Rica today, it's getting pretty here in Ecuador. It's a little crowded in the morning. I thought we were going to get rain today, but maybe, maybe not. We'll see. Could use it if we do. Is there any other new folks on there or folks with questions? Rod has his hand up again, he came back on the phone. Rod did. Well, Rod, come on forward, man, because we'll, I mean, you know, we're, you're the reason we're here. So could you get it? You got a better connection? Rod, you guys, yeah, well, there's Boris. Hey, Boris. Good morning. Good morning, Roger. And I was going to add something, when I, when I, I think the series is part of the greater hit trial, you know, the map that they use in the uniforms, of course it is. That's right. Mm-hmm. So this is all planned, this is nothing happened because it happened, this is all planned. No, this goes into the greater Israel thing that they've been working on for years. And it's the reason I ran happened and all of the World Trade Center thing gave it the impetus for it to happen and all of it's wrapped up in there, Boris. You're absolutely 100% totally correct. They're a bunch of people. I'm telling you, they've got to be taken out of the gene pool. There is no other answer. Hey, Roger. Yes, ma'am. Nancy. Hi, Nancy. Hey, I came in about 8 or 10 minutes after the show started, so I don't know if you guys covered this. Did anyone bring up how Trump in the interview, I don't know if it was yesterday, the day before, said he was looking to overturn the 14th Amendment, birthright citizenship? We have not talked about that. We're dealing with Rod and his wife Sylvia out there and their cautions and stuff. Questions. No, we hadn't talked about that. It's a very good ripe topic, though, and declaring they're going to get rid of birthright citizenship is real interesting. People have been floating that for a while. Good luck. Good luck getting rid of the one thing that underpins the whole damn world system. Good luck. It just goes to show you they don't have the same understanding of this we got. No, but it's actually kind of exciting to see him talk about that. Yeah, even discussed, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a center piece of the information. I don't know, it's been talked about before the migrant crisis, but certainly of this migrant horde that's come and taken over in the last four years, anything that may be applied to them on birthright citizens, I don't know if they could do it, but they don't understand it's the whole underpinning to the whole world system without birthright citizenship. The dollar wouldn't be king there, Mr. Trump. There wouldn't be no great America without this birthright citizenship because it meant everybody was enslaved. And then they could go ahead and and and futureize their future labor and collateralize it and build an economy and a credit spout that the whole financial system works on. You're not going to get rid of that. That's why I'll tell you one thing, Nancy, that I mentioned at the other day is from now on when we get new people that in the out of instruct them on doing this, we're going to take that and instruct them at least, I hope they'll do it, to take the single notification to the Secretary of State and CC the president and the Department of Justice and the Attorney General at the bottom, and we'll start letting these things float across their desks also. So, I think that a little about what I'm thinking about redoing my re-noticing and including those just, you know, well, for the fun of it, it doesn't say it doesn't say somewhere you only have to do it once. I know. I know you keep on saying that you think you don't think they can see enough of them or too many of them. No, I don't. I don't. I'd like to see them stack about ten inches high on every one of the bureaucrats' desks myself, but that's another way and we'll keep peeling back the layers of the onion where we can, but believe me, they're never going to get rid of birthright citizenship they can or the whole thing's null and void. So very interesting, though, isn't it, that you know more than the president-elect of the United States? A billionaire. Oh, well, just little Nancy and Richmond, you know. I'm just like personal pondering. Anyway, that's it. How's Dean doing with this? Well, of course he's the national. I don't know how much he is applying himself to study, but I don't know. You know, and you don't have to apply yourself to study. If you've got a command of it, generally, you've got a good command of it. If you can defend your position, if challenged, but the more you do study, the more it's going to take someone like the gal earlier that was scared of getting pulled over on the side of the road and buttress them up, you know, where they go, "Well, hold it. I'm enslaving myself in my own mind because that's what you're doing. They control you through fear and they've controlled you through fraud and then applying the fear on top of the fraud to cement it, and you've got to get rid of nothing but evil people, not the guy that's going to pull you over on the side of the road. He doesn't know any different, but the people running this thing are nothing, but evil people, and they've got to keep you scared to keep you in line. Don't be scared. Find out however it is, whatever you've got to go through to go in and cover that subject with yourself to the fact where you're not scared of them anymore. And the only way I know to do it is to just immerse yourself in the information because the power that you have that they stole is going to come back to you through the information. I mean, that's just kind of what I've learned over all these years with you, folks. And Roger, the focus, I know that they want to move forward with the revocation of election. And actually, for me, that is the simplest and straightforward way with capturing someone's interest and attention because of my refund is the brush haver, the Union for the Grail Road as a state citizen, the PD-2313, and then the 26 CFR 1.1-1 little A. So that, for me, is what I'm zooming to show them the equivocation and how they're hiding the national. And then they two-pager, back-to-back, two-pager that lists 20 or so sites about the difference between the state citizen and the 14th Amendment federal citizen. Those are kind of my two go-tos, especially since we're approaching the end of the year and the beginning of the tax season. And I know that Susan and Dean are planning on looking at that this month to move forward on that. So I think they'll get a little more focused attention if it's doing something happening and having fun. Yes, which they should, as newlyweds. If you are thinking about doing this, that is something that should be brought up and talked about, is what we've been able to ascertain. If you do this change of status, file an affidavit and put them on notice, any time during the year, it negates the whole year for them. So even if you do it in December, you would have been considered being a national the whole year of 24. So if that has anything to do with your decision, know that that's the way that appears to be. And that's just the citizenship affidavit, correct, the noticing. Yes, correct. Yes. Correct. Right. Okay. Well, we're going to bid a due to our British and English listeners. We'll miss you. And also Chicago, as I used to call it, where I'm from. So Paul, do your deal, man. We'll do. Thank you for joining us for the first hour of this program, radio soapbox.com listeners. And 106.9 WBOU have them Chicago audience to follow us into the second hour. Go to thematrixdocs.com either click on eurofolkradio.com global voice radio network or free conference call to join us live. Thanks. Yep. Yep. Thank you. Fish and chips for me, please. Okay. Who else can we address? We're talking to Nancy about all this. There's someone with a hey, Roger right there. Nancy Just this is Carl at Utah. Similar. Hey, Carl. Subject. Hey, but similar subject about changing your citizenship. One of the sources, I think talking sources is important and where we look up legal sources to justify understanding is very important. My wife has been looking into this a little bit, Tonya. Okay. And she's gone to some sites that are very interesting, one of which is Snopes fact check. Oh, my God. You know, and I go, you're not getting proper information when you go to sites like this. You know, I mean, it had one of the things that it had was a, what was it, a non national citizen? You know, and it's like something like that, not natural, but it was it was like, there's no such term as a non national. Like it just, it doesn't match up to anything that we're studying. But sources are important, I think, to focus on. And that's why I'm always harping or asking, hey, can we study? True. But you got to make sure you've got a confirmed source that you know, is telling you the straight stuff. That's the problem. Sources. As long as you know whether they're good or bad. I agree. So what's your question? Okay, all right, Rod, we sound better. You got a better connection. Let me, let me stick you right on the back and deal with, with our friend here in Utah. Now, on your wife, Tanya, she was somewhat apprehensive about this too. I think you've told us in the past. So she's looking into stuff. Well, that's really good. Yeah, I mean, I do think it's good. Now, I think she, and this something between me and her, but studying more of what we're studying to see if it jives with her self-consciousness. It's the spirit of the law, essentially. It doesn't make sense in your heart. You know, and that's, I think, a lot of importance, just like Bible or, you know, when we read spiritual things, does it? It's like a judgment on the common law. You know, because common law generally what's right is, you know, like Brent says, because the whole time I go into court, my objection is, is this fair? That's not fair, your honor. And that sense of justice that you're talking about, that's common law. I like it. I like it. Okay. That's all I had. Yeah. Okay, we'll keep studying, Tanya, but go back and realize what the get the credibility in your sources first before you go take in what they say is gospel. Okay. Because boy, there's a lot of lies out there. Okay, let's get up to Rod with the good connection. Rod, did we get you back with a good connection? It sounded like I'm here and I hope the delay is not as bad as it was before. No, it's much better. Thank you. You're a little more front and center on the audio. Now, because we want to help you guys, but you're in such a fortunate position because you're in Flathead County. You got all the people surrounding you. The thing is, Roger, just a personal situation. My body can't take the cold here. It's just a pragmatic decision. We have to be in a different place. I see. Okay. At some point, but you have it right now. That's definitely. All right. It's too cold here. Well, I can understand that some people are versed to that. And wherever you move, your Montana drivers license should work for a while. When they make you change, in other words, you know, it's this residency question again. As I've said, this is the most dangerous word in the whole damn thing because of the trickiness of it. And the people seem to have a much more of a difficult time getting their arms around it, for instance. So if you're going to move to, let's say Georgia is warm down there and warmer. And so you go to the Georgia code and you say, well, what is the definition of resident, right? And you look in that part of the code in the first section, I'll say, well, it's someone who's been in the state longer than 30 days and yada, yada, yada. And then they'll have another one will know that and it's kind of the same type of thing. And then a couple of down there's a sentence there, Rod. And it says the term resident is a rebuttable presumption. What? The term resident is a rebuttable presumption. That's what it says in the Georgia law books. Okay, but not on, but not on the driver's license application. Of course not. So that's what I'm saying. So you move to Georgia and you keep your Montana driver's license. And they say, well, you got to get a Georgia law driver's license. You've been here longer than 30 days. I'm sorry. Sure. That doesn't apply to me right here in your own law. It says it's a rebuttable presumption. Here's my affidavit to the secretary of state. There is no higher person to rebut it. I assume there are people that have actually assumed there are people have actually done that and succeeded. Well, I, you know, I don't know. I don't know what everybody's done with this stuff. Sometimes they come back and tell us good and bad, but I don't know. But I'm just telling you the concept of the theory, the legal theory underneath it. That doesn't apply to me. I'm not a resident. See, they're not talk, they're talking about being a resident of Georgia under the 14th amendment and the state wherein they reside. You're not residing. Okay. On your car. They own your car. Well, they may or they may not, Joan, you know, depends on the situation, but point being, you're not residing. And once again, it goes back to this. Do you know where that term came from and how they're using it, Rod? Well, I understand that the four in the 14th amendment that they set the system up and there's two definitions of a residency. Okay. Yes. And what the one they're imputing is what set of laws do you live under? It has nothing to do with where you live. What set of laws are the legal residents under? Okay. And that comes from ambassadorial law where countries change and exchange ambassadors. And the ambassador, the example I use, because I'm an Ecuador, if the ambassador of Ecuador got caught up there at Dulles, right there in DC with a kilo of cocaine in his diplomatic pouch, what would they do to him? Would they throw him in jail? Here, Linda, listen, would they throw him in jail or would they send him back to Ecuador? All right. Back to Ecuador. Yes. Why? Because he's in residence because the laws of Ecuador apply to him, not the laws of the US, even though he's in the US, he's in residence. He's in residence of Ecuador. He the laws of Ecuador apply to him. Just like when you say you're a resident in Georgia or Montana or South Carolina or Jones from or any of that, you say you're a resident, you're telling them the laws of 14th amendment in Washington, DC, apply to me and I'm in the state in which I reside in the 14th amendment. So, listen, these guys have got this thing set up. You're too confused and obfuscate. And boy, have they done a good job? Hey, Roger. I was saying that not I wasn't saying that Rod owns his car. I was saying somebody else owns his car. That's why he has to get a he has to claim to be a resident if he's going to get a life set. You know, you if you fade your car off or even if you haven't, you get a certificate of title. That's this is the certificate of title, the same as the title. No, it's only a certificate that evidence is title. They kept the manufacturer's statement of origin. That's the title. Okay, it's all this trickery stuff. And, uh, Rod, you just got to go in on each one of these issues that that you're confused or that have an effect on you and go back and deal with them. I slate them down, understand what they're doing and who they're for and decide if that is you or not. See, the whole thing goes back to this is your decision. Right. I have questions up there. What you just said, what you just said now about who holds the title, who who holds the title, if I have a certificate of title, they do. That's why they put their number on it called your license tag to identify their property. And they want you to have a license to drive your property. The automobile, the treasury, who, the country, you say they are you. Property, you know, the property can't own property because you're a property right on you is why you have to have a certificate of title. It's why your house has to be on the property roles and you pay property taxes, even though it's paid off. If you're not free and clear, they can come take your house if you don't pay the taxes, right? Those are all evidences of you being property, right? Or having a property right on you. He's asking who owns the car? His car. All right. Do you have your car paid off? That the title is a manufacturer's stipend statement of origin. Well, then you might want to go over to Joe Lusty because channel and find out about how to go get a DOT number and make it a private vehicle and identify it as such by putting that DOT number on a license tag and putting that tag on your private conveyance. Okay, but that would be still owned by the U.S. corporation. No, no, because no, because it's got your free tag number on it. It's not there to say it issued tag. Didn't you hear Joe? Just say that the sheriff came up to the guy and said, how did you do that? And had him come and explain it to his deputies and other sergeants from the other jurisdictions surrounding it. Did you hear him tell that story or were you offline when that was told? No, I did hear that, but I'm trying to tie it into what you just said now. All right. As far as said is, if you go get due to the same thing and go to the DOT site and get that number issued your vehicle as a private vehicle and go get the number on a tag custom tag and put it on there. Maybe the sheriff at Flathead County will come up and say, hey, Rod, how'd you do that? Rod, if you have a hard one problem, I don't understand what you don't understand. I'm just trying to understand. Yeah, that's it. I don't want to fight with the local yokels over things that in my opinion, all right, well, then if you don't want to fight with them, you don't need to be free. Because if you're not willing to belligerently stand up for your rights, then you don't need to be free. Go be a slave. No, I well, but you got to start some. Roger, you start somewhere and you progress from there. You don't take on the whole army. You just said you don't want to confront those people. Well, if that's your background, then you need to find out a way to overcome that or be happy where you are because you don't need to be free if you don't want to go fight battles. Because let me tell you, Rod, I'm sorry, free to make free, buddy. That's not what I'm saying, Roger. Well, that's what I'm saying. No, I agree. Can I try a minute, Roger? Surely, so go ahead. I'm not doing too well. Do you understand the difference, Rod, between what you're in Idaho, so Idaho state and state of Idaho and state of Idaho is a federal? Yeah. Yeah. So last. Yeah. So who basically owns your car is the state? Your, the certificate of title is in this held in the state at some, you know, be at the Department of Transportation. I'm not sure there, but that's who's licensed. You know, when you go get your plate for your car, it's for the state of Idaho. Yeah. So, so back to who is actually claiming ownership of your car, the state. And that's why you have to follow their rules, the state of. Did that help you any? So what you're saying is that the state cap the small S. owns the league. No, no, I'm saying cap the state of the state of Idaho. Well, it's not capital S. That'd be a small less. Rod, I don't, I don't understand what, what, what problems you're having. Okay, honestly. I'm not. Can you just Okay. Just let me do his question. Just listen to me. Question. I'm not having a problem. Just trying to learn. I don't want to presume anything at this point. Okay. Okay. Well, and I've been reading. Right. And, and I still have questions, which is why I'm here. I will go. All right. What's your question? I said, who owns, I asked who owns the, who owns the vehicle if I only have a certificate of. You don't because if you're a citizen in the United States and a resident, you got a property right on you and you don't own anything. Have you not gotten that understanding yet? No, I understand that. I just want to know exactly who is it the corporation of the United States? Well, I just the one that it's probably the state because you went and registered it with them and you they, whether you bought it or however you got it and they had the manufacturer's statement of origin or maybe you bought it from somebody else and they assigned it to you on the back of the title like they do in Georgia, but the state owns the car, not the federal government. They own you and therefore because they got a proper ship ownership in you and you've told them they did, you don't own anything even though you may have the illusion that you do. Okay. You're an Idaho Rod, you're just down the street. No, he's in Montana. In K and Flathead County with all those. I'm in Montana. Yeah, that's what I said. Now, what other questions did that do you understand the answer I gave you to that question? I got a clue. Okay. Well, all right. Well, all right. Well, let's put that one on the back burner and go to the next one. What's the next question? I got another question. Yeah, I don't know how I wound up on the page for the IRS website that I found, but I don't know if you're familiar with it. It stars out as part one, section seven, seven, seven, zero, one dot definitions 26 CFR 301.7701-6a person and that's three oh one. That's three oh one. That's three oh one. That's three oh one. Section one, section three oh one, decks and six oh one. Those are all different parts. So, the definition would apply to that part. Look, you're in the deep end of the pool now that you want to go jumping in stuff like this when you don't even understand why you don't own your car. You're in the deep end of the pool right now. Okay, well, that's why I'm bringing it up because I'm I'm reading it and I'm and I know that trickery but I wonder where the trickery is and it starts out. The trickery ain't where you are. The trickery is it's 26 CFR 1.1 dash one parentheses small a. Are you familiar with that? That's the one we teach off of. Not by number or maybe I've read it but no, go ahead until it's well. Okay, well, I'm going to quote it to you right now. It's right at the very first of the code of federal regulations to kind of 26 26 CFR. Listen to the code. Listen to the number 1.1 dash one parentheses a. Would you say that's at the front of the book? 1.1 dash one parentheses small a. You're off in 301 and 601 and all these other parts. That's the one that's the key one right there. If you haven't been exposed to this rod, then you need to go go back through the course. Okay, because we teach this to everybody. 1.1 dash one a. You want to look it up. You want to put it in the computer and dial it up and while I'm quoting it to you 26 CFR 1.1 dash one parentheses small a. This is their jurisdictional statement. Rod, do you remember you evidently haven't been around the movement all that long? About 25 years ago, there was a big cry in the Patriot movement. Show us the law. Have you ever heard that? No. Yeah, well that was the big cry from people like Larry B. Kraft, very famous tax attorney. Joe banister, IRS CID guy that defected because he was asking him where's the law and a couple of other Sherry Jackson Peele and other former IRS agent and they all got together and took out a whole page ad in the New York Times back in the 90s on show us the law with a $50,000 reward. Nobody ever got that reward, Rod, but I'm going to show you the law right now. Okay, 26 code of federal regulations, 1.1 dash one parentheses small a. It's very important if you're off quizzering on all these other places that you go back and center on this. Okay, so here's that quote. An income tax is owed by all individuals. It uses the word individuals. It doesn't use the word person there. Now, isn't that interesting? An income tax is owed by all individuals who are citizens of the United States or residents and to the extent of 871 B and 877 B, all non-resident individuals. That's it. So, Rod, are there only two statuses? You're either free or you're a slave. Correct. All right, well, we know which one the slave is and what I just read you, don't we? Citizens of the United States and residents. Well, if they're the slaves in their jurisdictional statement, the other one has to be the free one, doesn't it? Non-resident alien. I'm non-resident to the residency of the 14th Amendment and because I'm a state citizen slash national, I'm alien from the federal citizenship. There's your jurisdictional statement. You do not lead to look any further. What you need to do is in your mind, figure out which one of those you are. Rod, are you with me? Are you following? I don't know how I can be more succinct with you than this right here. Hey, Rod. When Rod and Sylvia are national, then Rod, then you are a non-resident alien. Alien from paying the stupid income tax. Except for those two sections, if you owe either one of those, you need to pay them. They're constitutional taxes. Rod, come back to us. Are we clear as clear or are we clear as mud? Rod, it's very difficult. Tell me is clear. Okay. Yeah. Can you hear me? We still have a delay, probably. Well, I don't know. You sound pretty live to me. I just want to know if I'm making sense to you because I'm trying the best I can. You are making sense to me. What this document is saying, the one that I asked about the question I had is not making sense to me, and that's what I want to do. Well, it's meant to not make Rod. It's meant to not make sense to you. Can you read it one more time, please? It's designed to not make sense to you, to fool you. Why do you think they call a national and non-resident alien in what I just read? Do you think that's designed to fool you? Yeah, I do. But I want to understand how they're trying to with this. I'm just trying to understand how they're trying to fool me with this particular document that I'm looking at. Good question. We're not going to entertain that today. I showed you where the truth is. Everything that they do is, I can give you a quote after quote, Woodrow Wilson, wooden loan, countersign a loan to the Chinese, because the tax system was antiquated and burdensome. But what we're covering today, does that sound antiquated and burdensome to you? Oh, by the way, and it's administered by foreign agents. That's from Woodrow Wilson, the guy that was the pro-tem of the Senate in the 40s. And I can't remember his name right now. And he was the head of the Ways and Means Committee. And his statement was, every year we get together with the folks at Treasury, and we ask them to simplify the tax code. And every year they bring us back something that only Solomon and all of his wise men could figure out. So I don't know what else to tell you. It's intended to do that to you. Your job is to catch that all off and find the truth. I just gave you the truth. I just showed you their jurisdictional statement. Roger, the information is tailored for you. I don't know you and your wife both seems to me need to go back and do some more study or whatever, because I've got my questions on whether you guys really need to be free, quite frankly. I mean, I appreciate what you're going through, but I can give you the answer and you still don't see it. Or you still got questions, then that means you need to go back and do more study. Okay. Roger, that's what I asked for change from this discussion. Roger, I just wanted to explain to Rod and Sylvia that the the information is tailored for the residents and the U.S. citizens and employees. They're not tailored to private individual who is a national. And if he wants to reach out to National Status Freedom, you know, we can guide him through the information to help him learn. To see that, to find that information, see how, you know, you have to be able to read it first, understand who you are as a private individual, and then it'll start making sense, you know, how they're wording their verbiage in their definitions and their codes. That's how they keep people trapped because it makes it sound like they're, they have property, it makes it sound that they're in control, but the government's really in control of them. So what else can you do if we can give anything else we can address for you, Rod and Sylvia? I mean, I'm really wanting to help you here. May we all hear the page that he wants to read? May we all, we could help him. What's got you stuck, Rod? Well, what's got me stuck is that I think you got us all wrong. You got us all wrong. And for some reason, it seems as if you, you want to talk about what you want to talk about right now, we're not enemies, we're not hostile, we're not dining a word that you say. Okay. But I don't, I don't feel like, well, here's what I hear. I hear your wife say, I'm scared of getting pulled over on the side of the road. And all I hear is this fear and stuff out of your eyes. Okay, no, no, I'm not scared of being pulled over. Well, that's what you said. I've wondered what to do when that happens because my car is a ticket magnet. And I am the best driver you've ever seen. And I get pulled over all the time. So I wanted to be prepared to handle the situation. I have no doubt about being a national and being free and all those things. I just want to know what I could expect. That's all. Okay, well, I don't know what to expect because I don't know who's pulling you over. That's just what I tried to explain to you. The traffic thing is very nebulous because there is no predictability in jurisdiction to jurisdiction. One guy might let you go. And the next guy might want to tell you that they don't recognize the affidavit and find you $500. And I don't know which one of those jurisdictions you're going to be in. Which is which is we decided we weren't going to focus on this. And we were just going to focus on the main thing, which is the the national status with the Department of State. Well, that's it. Which you had advised yourself. You said that you didn't want to get bogged down in this traffic crap. And we totally agree. Okay. But you've construed that. Well, I don't get bogged down on it because there's not a concrete answer. We never have problems with the feds. Not one. We always have problems with this traffic crap. There is no concrete answer. There are concrete answers on the federal side. Okay. Okay. Okay. Again, I'm going to come back again. Please tell me what your questions are. All of a sudden, now we're going to go back to the Secretary of State. Well, what were your questions on the Secretary of State, please? No, I think you answered that with me. Okay. All right. And around Bob, when you were talking about the fact that the just getting a driver's license in our situation does not automatically change our status. If we are a national affidavit file with the Secretary of State, it does not change that. We understand that. No, but I think that it's not going to override what you've got on file with the Secretary of State. No, one of the reasons it wouldn't is because that's fraud that they make you be a resident to get the driver's license. That's fraud. It's all built on the whole fraud of this system. So that would not change what your declaration is with him to my knowledge. Okay. All right. And then my other question was strictly for educational purposes, because I want to understand what all right, what these people are doing. Well, I'm going to tell you what they're doing. They're tricking you into being a citizen of the United States and getting you to agree with it in a resident and enslaving you. Now, you know about that. Now, you have file paperwork you've come. Have you or have you guys not filed your paperwork yet, Ron? You did, right? No, we're not we're in the process of doing that. Okay. No, can you hear me? Yes, I hear you. Okay. So. Okay, because we have a we have a huge delay. All right, well, we have not have not filed. What is the all right, bring out this damn IRS thing that's got you hung up unless you're what it says. Even though I've shown you that it doesn't apply. No, it doesn't hang on the first page. It doesn't have Roger. It does not have this hung up where this is an educational just a question that I have in my mind about what I'm reading from the IRS. We are still on board. We still understand everything you have talked. What please, Rod, just give me to tell me what the hell the hang up is. Please. Okay. What I asked you was, are you familiar with this document that they have on the IRS website? I hate the IRS. I hate the IRS. We never even brought him up for 10 years. Okay. Well, now we're in it deeper. Tell me what the document says that's got you quizzical. Please. Purpose in the internal revenue service service is aware that some taxpayers are claiming that they are not subject to federal income tax or that their income is excluded from taxation because one, the taxpayers have declared that they have rejected or renounced United States citizenship because the taxpayers are citizens exclusively of a state capital state, sometimes characterized as a quote natural born citizen or quote sovereign state or to the taxpayers claim that they are not persons as identified by the internal revenue code. These taxpayers often furnish forms W4 employees withholding allowance certificate to their employers on which the taxpayers claim excessive withholding allowances or claim complete exemptions from withholding based on these forms. W4 federal income taxes are not withheld from wages paid. Alternatively, these taxpayers attempt to avoid their federal income tax liability by submitting a 442-52 substitute for form W2 wage and tax statement or form 1099-R distributions from pensions, annuities, retirements, or profit sharing plans, IRAs, insurance contracts, etc., to the internal revenue service with a zero on the line for the amount of wages received. These taxpayers often either fail to file returns or file returns showing no income and claiming a refund for any withheld income taxes. The service is also where the sum promoters including return preparers market a book package kit or other materials that claim to show taxpayers how they can avoid paying income taxes based on these and other meritless arguments and it goes on. All right, well let me address it right there. Did I charge you any money? Did Gary and Gina charge you any money for all this information? No, no. I thought of both. Okay, well I don't guess we're targeting anything then, are we? Gary, you didn't even know about what will show us the law, right? So you don't have any familiarity with the tax movement over the last 35 to 40 years, do you? Because the tax movement over the last 35 to 40 years, all that shit you just read off, they've done all that because they didn't know what they were doing because they didn't have the answer we've got. They couldn't take you and show you the law that I just read to you out of 26 CFR 1.1-1 parentheses small a that nobody could answer and get a $50,000 reward from the New York Times. That's what you just read about. Gotcha. So this document must be pretty old then. I have no idea. Never seen it before but I've seen those arguments. I've lived through them for the last 32 years. I hated that shit. So I said there's got to be a better way. So I went out and found out they got the jurisdictional nexus on it that allows them to do all of it and showing you how to get out of it and not charging you a penny. You go satisfied but you go but you go satisfy yourself and if you've got questions like that I want you to bring them forward unless address them okay because I don't want anybody confused about what these creeps have done or how they've done it or where the answer is because it's never failed in 14 and a half years which never failed. May I make a suggestion that he needs to understand the word jurisdiction? I think that's where he's getting lost. Anyway I understand that people are skeptical and they don't think it can be this easy and every one of that bunch of crap that I've heard for the whole time I've been doing this. You're not understanding the enemy. These guys have tricked you with a trick on words and allowed you to confirm that you're in a condition of voluntary servitude. That's the only legal servant slavery in the Constitution and it's hidden. It's not stated directly so unvolunteer and go find out how enjoyable life can be when you're free. They don't have the power to save the all damn country. They had to do it this way. They don't have that power. They're a bunch of sneaky old Freemason, satanic Jews for God's sakes. What? Joan talked right into the phone. Was that an actual IRS document? It was pretty lame. No that was over there. That's one of their documents somewhere in their bullshit stuff. I mean they lied to you. They also say a national owes total allegiance to a small to the US and that's not true. That's just an outright lie that's in their damn publication. Yes, who said Roger a bit ago? Carl in Utah. The 26 CFR 1-1. What was that? Was it A? Is that what we're looking at? 26 CFR 1.1-1 parentheses small A. That's the IRS's jurisdictional statement. You'll notice it's in the second paragraph of the affidavit. Have we ever had them deny an affidavit because that wasn't correct and correct it with another affidavit in all these years? Have we ever had that happen once? No. And then are we looking at parentheses one? Is that the last part of it? Hold it. Carl, I'm trying to go 1.1-1 parentheses small A. That's the one we're looking at. It reads an income taxes due by all individuals. Again, they used the word individuals. They didn't use the word person. An income tax is owed by all individuals. Those are human beings who are citizens of the United States or residents and to the extent of 871B and 877B all non-resident alien individuals. That's what it says, I believe, Carl. Have you got a question with that? No, I'm just trying to find that it is the small, it is a parentheses small A and then it's a one, section one. Roger? Yes. Could you please tell Rod that all the bluff letters end in a sentence and why it is so important to understand that? Well, not only the bluff letters, but all the way back to SR 192 and Senate Resolution 192, which was passed about 30 days after they switched the systems back in 1933 where they declare all property of the United States as theirs except by operation of law. The bluff letters we get from the passport office, they all have the first same paragraph. It appears by what you submitted that you're a citizen of the United States. Then they quote the 14th Amendment, all persons born and naturalized in the United States dot dot dot. This cannot be waived unilaterally except by operation of law. Okay, how about the operation of law that I ain't one of them and I can volunteer out? How about the operation of law from Vitell's Law of Nations that says 1750s that says every man has the right of personal, political, self-determination. That means you get to choose what settled laws you want to live under. That's operation of law. It's also quoted in the United Nations charter and you could also tell him is this all persons born or naturalized in the United States comma and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It does not say all persons born or naturalized in the United States are subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Does it? It says and and if there's some that are and there's some that are and not. All of that, yes. By the way, never been rebutted, not once. Everybody that ever sent that in got their documents. All right. Can you come across the UN treaty document just the other day? I thought it was quite interesting. Yeah, and that's in there somewhere. Okay. And what do you think they're basing the migrant invasion on? See how they're weaponizing that? We've got about 40 million of them in the country now. There Roger. Hey, Danny. Hey, yeah, I just like to contribute some about the traffic stuff. I know it aggravates you a lot, but it also kind of goes along with what you were saying before that how they can't they can't don't you make you have something that that not allowing you to help and that it's all voluntary. And I would say, yeah, these traffic things are voluntary, but the way I read it is that you volunteer to start with by putting a license plate on the car because the license is for a vehicle and a vehicle is defined in a manner that it's an implement of commerce. So you have voluntarily asked to have your car be used allowed to be used as a vehicle on the highways participating in that part of commerce known as transportation. And I don't see anything that would keep keep somebody who's a national and can't get a driver's license from having a car and you a car or other things and license it to be used as a vehicle in their commerce. You could hire drivers to use your vehicles in that commerce and everyone would work okay. It's when you try to use it for as a private conveyance while labeling it as a vehicle in commerce and doing so without a driver's license. And the cover that some I have written some letters prepared some letters to go to police chiefs and stuff, explaining not being a vehicle. If I could read that here, setting it up for police chiefs in sheriff's areas I might pass through. It says I occasionally pass through your geographical area area and am writing to inform you of my voluntary termination on the vehicle status/classification on my automobile. The department of revenue provided they form for that purpose and that completed form has been returned to the department. Termination of this classification is continued by not registering and licensing this automobile for use as a vehicle as specified by a Tennessee code section and not allowing its use for the purposes specified in that code section and then I cite the definition it's in that code section and has a vehicle and freight motor vehicle means every device in a phone or my which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway accepting devices moved by human power use exclusively upon stationary tracks. Now where they're saying may be transported that's just the verb form of transportation which another section identifies as part of commerce and so the definition is divided into two parts that is transported or maybe transported okay there is parts and actual use or maybe means it's allowed to be used or you have a license to use it that way that's that's the way I read this. Now back to the letter I'm giving you this notice because I realized that without close and especially it may be difficult to distinguish between transportation and I refer to that code section that identifies transportation as part of commerce and ordinary common travel. I'm requesting that you have your officer review the official technical meaning of vehicle and the proper procedures for distinguishing between a vehicle and a non-vehicular device because this definition is part of a specialized technical legal terminology useful lawyers advice a counsel about this review might be useful. Provide me with your department's customary manner for designating a car as non-vehicular and I will follow your recommendation courts have declared that there is a right to travel but not by using a motor vehicle therefore I'm making every effort to remove my automobile from the classification of vehicle so as to avoid violation or perceive violation of any regulations of commerce as identified in that definition of vehicle and that section that identifies transportation as part of commerce and regulated generally by Title 55. My intention is to limit this automobile to ordinary travel for pleasure and comfort and there is no intention to use this automobile for the purposes for which a license the vehicle is required. The license plate may be used for purposes of identification but its presence is not provided of an intention for use as a vehicle and I put that part in until somebody tells me what they want done with the license plate once the car is no longer a vehicle and I don't expect to get that so I just leave it there at least I can identify it's not being reported stolen or anything and that's the letter to go out and try to put as much of it back on them tell me what you want me to do kind of thing if I may please okay with me I would look at it from this point of view to shorten up that correspondence when that tag expires when you need a new one when your year is up your contract is complete unless you sign another contract you're done with all that cross talk and all that everything that you just said except for the identification process they can run the tag cross reference that with the VIN number at one time it was registered the contract has expired I'm done thank you Roger well I I've looked at it that way too but I think your promises are in the application not in the licenses it's when you're you still got your obligations under your promises in the application so the application for drivers license it's still there even if you don't have a license or you let it expire so I think that you really need to go back and and rescind your signature on the applications to actually get that all done it does seem like it should be but it's I'm doubtful that they've done that well from my actual experience as soon as I whip out a passport card all their priorities are rescinded all my agreements are passed history they hand me back the card and I go about my day it's happening vividly yeah I've had you know I've had a dead experience blue. Now this is kind of adjusting pace to put something back on you. It's an issue that's an issue in itself is this whole traffic driver's license all that stuff and I don't consider it a main part of what we do my job is to remove you from the federal system this is one of the after effects but you know we just can't cover everything on this show and I prefer not to cover traffic stuff because there's no answer I've told you the reason a hundred times okay that's my predilection so if you want to get into it and fight that battle go do it Danny likes it he wants to fight this battle you can hear from what he just read us okay so anyway Danny well good luck with it okay okay all right where else can we go here we've got a few minutes left today anybody else got something yes nobody else has got anything well okay so much for today the 10th we'll see what happens as the world doesn't blow up here with these crazy bastards doing all the stuff they're doing we'll find out more as to go forward so I guess we got lunch today so I probably won't be able to stay tuned until later and we just see okay Roger can I put in just a quick little ledge that's Carl I wish would um I think it's important to have other like you know even if and I know it's your show and and I think it's important to have other people's thoughts and ideas as long as they're in harmony with what you feel but I don't think they should be as off quitting an argumentive only to the fact that I mean the best part is it's your choice what's on the radio and it needs to be kept that way and we need to be reminded of that through the through the use to jump the radio but if it's something you don't really want to get into it ought to be more of a conversation of I think I think and I've offered and proffered some of you all that are interested in that get together and have your own show on nothing but traffic it's a subject in the after hours yeah that's what they have to show us for is these other topics and I I love the after hour show but I don't you know as far as the gentleman that was on and his spouse his wife you know we love him we're grateful they're on here because we are a a group of individuals that are like-minded and we may not see the same from individual to individual of each one of us right but we've got the main goal in harmony and I think that's true that's why we're kind of okay well I try and maintain that I I just I couldn't listen a question out of there it just was very frustrating to me so anyway uh that was what that is and yeah we welcome anybody that's got a question something constructive I tell you the only dumb question is the one that didn't ask so we want to hear all that stuff but I and I think the key to that whole IRS thing was that Rod and Sylvia are relatively new to this and they don't have that history all those years that many of us have been exposed to in that area so so I I can understand it because everything you read there was crap like zero returns and uh you could go by all the gurus that have been in the industry uh the federal mafia what was the guy's name his son is the financial advisor uh that died handcuffed to a bed in federal prison one of the only books banned by a judge in america the federal mafia erwin shift erwin shift thank you all those people that have tried to find what we've got right here for all those years it's just like our own tom d comes on here goes rogers we told me for roger i've been looking for this for 40 years that's 10 years longer than i've been in this okay so yes people have been looking for the answers we've got here for decades and nobody figured it out just exactly like they thought no one would and then came along this guy john benson who ultimately had the answer and i just happened to be one of his students the only one out of 1200 that took this further and found out the biggest secret in the world because that's what it is okay anyway glad you're along for the ride however and uh this isn't something we pulled out of our spinger muscle folks it's over a hundred years of sacrifice of study and legal research in three ben's lives that arrived at this it didn't something we just went and plucked off the shelf okay all right but we're gonna call it a day on tuesday uh it appears uh and we will uh be back tomorrow and see what the hell happens in the next 22 hours so uh paul thank you everybody appreciate you lending us your time and feeling it's important to be here and rod and sylvia i hope you got something out of that i and i'm glad you're on board just and i know you don't have a way to really get the whole perspective here but this is quite a project you know it was john one of our our listeners john and several of you agreed we said they think this is the most important message in the world and i agree so we'll come back and beat it up again tomorrow guys have a nice day and all that kind of happy stuff and paul and everyone that is associated with the program we uh we appreciate your efforts okay so we'll see you uh tomorrow a ciao blessings Roger thank you roger let's have some hate and consternation train kilo i'm great train kilo brand hey let me uh let me just add something real quick uh the thing that rod was reading um that the kept talking about taxpayers must do this tax payers must do that so i think that's the key with that is do not identify as a quote tax payer i yield that was some commissioner's uh statement well i i read this quote last week and i'm going to read it again this constant line is not aimed at making the people believe a lie but it ensuring that no one believes anything anymore a people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong and such a people deprived of the power to think and judge is without knowing and willing it completely subjected to the rule of lies with such a people you can do whatever you want I yield who was that joseph that was sketch no that was no no this is a quote from a woman historian and philosopher i think uh to involve with war war two and her name is hannah are are are are are are in and while i'm at i might as well do one more quote uh power has a very nice trick the trick is it convinces you that it belongs to you but you but actually you belong to it are you wow well i was feeling all warm and fuzzy but not after that sorry sorry shelvin i apologize but it is always good to hear your voice shelving and you like what sir stay warm down there where all the palm trees are that would be close to rica yes it would oh la muchacho it's la vida hey brin what did you mean when you said that look that iris document was from it was something about a convention or no it was from it it was um i guess an introduction from a commissioner i don't know with one but i've seen it before like a tax commissioner yeah ew well there was one back i think in the eighties that said um that the taxes were voluntary this guy is pretty much hammering his fist on the table telling you you know all this other stuff yeah and it was like it was really trying to get a point across he kept saying it over and over well it's kind of like that uh commissioner that was talking yiddish to um that uh jewish producer guy um uh freedom the fascism where he told him in yiddish you'll never figure it out or you'll never get out of it right wrong air Russo yep you one of the arguments i like and i like to bring it up because nobody ever does is the doctrine of necessity this is uh this goes back to the greek philosophers um and if they're forcing me to do something that's a life and death situation which pretty much for me a vehicle or a way of transporting my body around is and not having it could could cause me a life threatening situation and um for those reasons i think you can cite the doctrine of necessity and just tell them that you know these are certain things that you have to have and you you've been refused by them i would go through a process of where they as terry leaded he he told them that he needed some changes made to his driver's license and then when they wouldn't or couldn't change it he volunteered it back to them and he got a certified statement stating as much with the doctrine and necessity that i would say that you could do that first and then tell them why and you've got the supporting document why in terry least case one of his as would be mine would be the incorrect name which is not a christian name and if it doesn't have a christian name i don't want anything to do with it so for those reasons you could list out of necessity you have to have it but you're not waving your rights and as a national or as a christian etc regarding the use of that document and that license i think that's an option that uh could at least be a holdover until people want to take the big step and just not resubmit but at least it's also a step in that direction and before you completely get out of it that might be an alternative midway place for people to tread i yield that's going to be my main attack on my next easement case is uh yeah we got to get through here we got old people we got young people the hospitals way far away we can't be having this roadblock just because you say so and yeah i hope carie lee comes on tomorrow he's supposed to thank you sam you and i have just one question i agree the name is important and that you have to have it to operate in this society but i have a question is there any law that requires you to have a name so you can say at this point in time i don't have a name so deal with it yeah in court it pretty much is a law that you have to be there in somebody's name and what the courts have decided in my opinion is that upper case name is the only way you can be in there it's a nom de gar you're under you sir we're still under the necessity of of lincoln's rules and the government is i think being run that way still today lincoln was a nihilist uh he he believed that everything was pre-ded destined predestined i guess that was maybe a way for him to absolve himself of all the people he killed but uh and made miserable but uh this necessity thing comes from him and it works both ways the government is definitely using it to exist we should in return resist out of necessity as well um to oppose it if i may contracts used to have been quantified and sealed and way back when you didn't have a name or didn't know how to write you would merely put an X on a document on a line so between that X and everybody having a name right now for an identifier when did that change and who made that rule does anybody know they added the last name basically in the 16th century when the the i forgot the name the they created the nation states uh individual countries because before you were uh there were fighting between clans or uh on the germans against the franks so i think it was the 16th century or 15th century so they started uh wrapping up more uh they needed last names to have a sentence for each country in c'don big of the population is and tax them and and see all their subjects but maybe somebody could find out but there was a an agreement between all all the tales of all the nations that was the end of 16th century yeah i believe so your family name still isn't your birth name it's your baptismal or your baptismal name there's your first and middle line for example there were somebody it was uh the father was a blacksmith that and they didn't have uh named uh the guy taking the census would put uh smith or the you're the son of uh young uh johnson's and things like that and then you started adding the name but if you see in the bible everybody nobody really has no last name on the first century second third so it was just to keep the control of their subjects yeah they often just use the city or the town that you came from and um remember a lot of those conflict so the priest was in charge uh of their uh of their region uh having controlled uh of the baptism so they were right right there that was their birth certificate that time yeah they had the power to uh label you as they could self-fit yes it's it's one thing to answer to your surname but technically as a christian you should be answering to your baptismal name in my opinion as anybody been following they're supposedly the tariff that trump is going to do is link to removing income tax a lot of the tacos are talking about and and john reagan many have tried to uh to get an answer from trump before and he's been playing with a year i'm thinking about something like that so it's interesting that this link to the tariff or something to remove income tax from the regular people if it's true sounds like he wants to be dead quick give us some of that money well he's been saying a lot of crazy he's been saying a lot of crazy things who knows what this guy's up to we might get the north american union item because he's uh he's telling Trudeau up there that he's going to make them the 53rd state and uh he's got another another line for mexico i forget exactly what it was but uh you know uh bush couldn't get it through but all the trumpis will probably go for it if he's there the problem he plays unconventional so you don't know if he's just playing us or playing them you know like he said once a when john bolden he took him and and everybody was upset that he had him and uh he was using him for a purpose and finally i think it was a north korea and when uh and when uh he finished with that uh shadow they had back of them for his purpose uh he just fired him so we don't know if he's putting certain he's letting the neon council are putting certain cabinet members but also he's uh considering the bitcoin so that this is a lot of crazy it's going to be very interesting uh year 25 and 26 it's going to be a lot of roller coaster and if in the other room they're going to remove about 400 agencies out of 489 uh this is going to be a lot of protests either because all those uh people like having cushions pensions or work for the government or for the unions or whatever it is uh they're not going to like it one sector of the population going to be happening the other one no so it's going to be it's going to be a roller coaster and based on his previous day he could he could do whatever he wants to do say whatever to get the sales pitch out and then go 180 like he's done before i'm done i believe a more when he takes a little uh responsibility for the covid bullshit i don't take it that way i understand your point of view but uh uh at that time he had no choice but he always gave you uh uh the option he always you look back on the videos he says you had uh option the vaccine because if you would tell at that time 70 or 80 percent really believe the vaccine and the elites would have nothing to do about it you will be just kicked out because most people even today you have a big sector of the population still believe in that and uh but he always says you got the other option uh the national option alternative and i remember hearing him giving you have this option this option now as as uh the um roger says was he tricked with it or not we'll find out we're gonna find out about a lot of things about facts or not but uh either way i do agree with roger in that sense that uh no matter what we should be a little bit freer and that's another thing i'm thinking of in the last five thousand years i have anybody or any society really been free or individual a hundred percent maybe the mountain man that went to the west and lived in there something that nobody's from the spotter from the greek times from roman times nobody's basically been able to be completely free maybe we live in the wild in Siberia maybe um your freedom shall be subject to me i don't have the freedom to choose the miracle today in with our national national after david don't have the freedom to choose the food that i want or the overcharging for the log of organic and the if is real true godly food or the other medicine or um for example in stegiflora if you want national perfect is illegal you cross to adabama and you're able to uh it's about a national perfect doctor could it be there's so much baby bummer retires in the nystegiflora so freedom is is it a bit tricky i think freedom is where you find it you can say the same thing about raw milk it's legal in one state it's punishable in another we're supposed to be slaves to our creator and his rules that's what we're supposed to be and uh we thought man would give us a better deal and it's really so funny because you own one eighth for anybody that knows about fraction or three sixteenths of a cloud that you've never seen and that you're able to get your your your share of uh of milk or raw milk it's just so funny how dare you give the proper enzyme you must have our lower the or lowest common denominator milk it's homogenous it's what i was brought up on didn't have anything else in the Costa Rica you need all the raw milk you want right in front of your house or a gold milk or whatever you want and no big deal remember drinking it warm from the cow my father said they just kind of funky warm when it's cold it tastes a lot better yeah really warm milk i'm eating well it's it's fresh milk when it's warm milk if it's from the cow just like you're in right Samuel i used i used i used to squirt the cats in the face with it from the uh that little appendage on the cows there and it was utterly satisfying too but yeah they didn't mind looking each other off i didn't want to go there but i don't want to you and everybody say how much energy the mr trump has but uh i'm been watching mr. Putin but last year he he's 72 years old and he and uh he has so much energy every day a statesman or from another country or whatever or a speech or whatever every day he's doing something non-stop and you look at just the titles from the rt.com every day he's doing something it looks like he really take care of himself in good time so there there is statesmen in the world that that are taking care of himself and they have all the resources and they're not eating GMO or any little things but uh i guess he has a couple of more 10 years more to do whatever he needs to do for that country just he certainly says all the right things i uh i also listen to a guy the other day i think his name was Hoffman or Kaufman uh quite a bright guy he says this whole serious thing was just too dang easy he's feeling that um they allowed this to happen to be like a vacuum for everybody to grind themselves up sort of an afghanistan for what uh Russia for the the western the israelis to deplete the resources and um i mean it's a mess place that i was husband everybody wants a chunk of it you're talking about you're talking about serious amir right yes yes yeah it sounds it's so strange the way they can get us left in their prison you're right something's going on well it's better than what happened to kadafi i would say pipeline politics has a big component in all that's happening oh you've got all these different degrees of of uh islam involved from very liberal to man you look at me the wrong way i'm cutting your head off to uh the curds and then everybody wants a chunk of it uh for like you say for pipeline and and and things of that nature and you know the ottoman empires think it it's it's always been theirs um but you know i mean it's just uh i don't know it it's it's it's it reminds me of what yugoslavia was like before they got a complete and utter dictator in there who killed anybody who was got out of line and kept it kept it at peace until he was gone to to to to to to whatever his name was um you know tito you know it looks like a place like that and and uh assad for sure is about the most bat boneless guy i think i mean back in 2018 russia said man you need to rearm yourself and um we'll give you the weapon reign we'll train you and he turned it down brand did the same thing he's trying was trying to play everybody as a good guy and he just hadn't worked out for him he was playing to the gall states trying to think that they would protect him um but basically so supposedly he didn't want to be the leader his brother in the gakil i don't remember gakil die and uh so he gave him that uh responsibility but remember the Kurds uh should have their own piece of country they've been there a very long time they don't have it you've been divided into fourth final piece of turkey and and i ran in iraq and syria like i'm 15 million of them and they don't have their own country their own territories and uh and the other thing is in syria they what i hate about our press they're just liars and liars and liars and heavy aspects you know you really were able to practice whatever your your favor was and you will see in downtown their area whatever the masques uh selling christmas trees and selling christmas basically they're circular in many ways aspect but that extreme uh islam it was created by the english and by united states the extreme for islam is not really their normal religion i i don't agree in there in that type of faith but uh those english when they divided those lands a hundred years ago uh here this line goes in iraq this line goes in syria and so on they did it in purpose the more they they divided the more friction they would have from one clan and other one they were able to control that uh that area they did that with south america too and they did that with india so they knew they were they were looking for for a hundred years full okay what do we have to do to have these people always in our control and we haven't divided let's not give them a laugh let's give them this and this let's let's get let's give this minority that never has any territory let's give them iraq or whatever so it's very and we're still paying for hundreds of years later yeah good old divide and conquer you know as long as they're killing each other we don't have to kill them right that's was the english motto in the middle east for sure and that's what they're trying to do here too you know communist yep well the first big schism was north versus south don't you feel that the one thing against dasad was his uh christian position that the muslims and the israelis both went against him that's what that he meant it's my type sorry arabia was created by the jews so that doesn't count they're gonna shea and then soonies and uh turks uh supposedly their rivalry against iran and half of iraq is one religion another one shea and soonie and uh and the purgins are completely different than uh arabs but most here we all think they're the same they're not um the turks that's not their original uh faith so they're very circular type of uh islamic um and so on so on so you know they were conqueror converted by force or whatever a thousand years ago but most of those people were now you mean islamic not even close and israel used all that and uh and uh remember uh israel wants the greater Jerusalem greater israel so they need to expand expand whatever their vision is and nobody really cared about much about that area until uh till oil um you know the roman are the greek general succulis one of the four generals that invited up uh elix enters a great sarmy detailed all that area way way way into after the roman's conquered everything else so it was pretty much left alone and um that really didn't change a whole lot until you got the oil involved and uh then uh course the uh british one of their hands on that and the sues canal and um you know what planned accordingly to control it and like you said earlier jesse it's been a basket case ever since and that's why they removed the roman power it was convenient for them to be there until they didn't even need it no more and then the boshavic you look all those things happened at the beginning of the 20th century in 1900s uh because it was sort of peaceful more or less under the roman power in the last couple hundred years until the young Turks came in and the boshavics came in in uh in Russia but it goes down to that same little group and in that little region called london and if you go to south america they also divided those countries are there they killed two thirds of the population in power y they don't they don't let go of argentina this argentina's russian resources of every kind you can imagine it's sort of like uh uh russia even though the territory is much less so yes it's the same group of people the same one that's why i think freedom is only going to be one when we die we go to heaven that's it 100 percent when i mean a hundred a hundred percent organic freedom well bizarre took a shit on the conference at Vienna what was that about the 18 20s so that put them off about what 80 90 years you talk in the first attempt at a new world order yeah yeah i'm not sure that data is right but yeah that's what the the Rothschilds held against russia until the boshavic revolution which happened about a hundred years later so yep 1913 but that was in the 1880s you know they were tearing that foundation up 19 0 4 or 5 they were killing shit yeah the czar also kicked them out of the russia and they couldn't own property and they hated him and they kept on until the last one was finally overthrown Stalin Stalin's from nymen from russia he's from that the next door neighbor gorgia let me start with the g the city and uh there was a big community jewish that fled from uh from uh turkey because they have strong I mean one of the ones i learned all the isle of the jews and then and all this that piece i put out there last week on the history of the rostrals i mean you all should see if you can find that and read it that is amazing and basically covers it from about the 1750s to it cut off at around 2006 i mean these billionaires are nothing but water boys for these guys so we're finding out but how dare those bitcoin deep interlopers get into their club you know if you bought like what 500 bitcoin or a thousand of them when they were under 10 cents a piece pretty much lay out 500 or a thousand bucks back then you're a billionaire now and they crashed that door down i i had a business by that time 10,000, 2011, 12 and this guy was talking about it all the time he knew the bible it was about 30 something he knew the bible by memory but he was always and he could quote everything but he started talking about bitcoin and i used to tell you know god's money is either gold silver and that's what he gave us and i didn't pay attention and uh and you're right right i wonder what i would have bought i think he told me when it was about 10 bucks or something that i would have bought 10 only i would have been okay but those times if i remember you couldn't there was no exchange or no wallet or whatever you call them or a cold water hot water it was just a piece of paper and you know it just it was just weird and you have to memorize this and put it in a piece of land just you lose the paper you lose your bitcoin 1,000 that would be important to comment unless we all remember the 2 month i agree with you Joe but if you would have in 2011 i think the the top was of gold whatever 2011 and it went down from 1900 to 1000 and you would have bought and you had the money you were about 10 thousand 10 uh piece of uh one ounce gold that would have been approximately 10,000 dollars you have to wait for about almost 15 years to become whatever the number is now 2500 and if you would have bought the same thing with 10,000 in fact you would have bought the same thing we want just with 1000 dollars and you would have bought down how much that is 100 Bitcoin you you thought yeah i'm just gonna throw a little i'm gonna put one percent here half a percent a quarter percent of my 10,000 uh no matter what digital or virtual invisible or or creative nothing in the in the democratic uh electronic digital whatever you want to call it they're worth a hundred thousand dollars now you could buy a lot of wrong milk a bit even if it's fake when i was going to buy a hundred there are a thousand dollars worth of bitcoin when it was going about ten bucks a coin and i had several smart friends who said how stupid can you be so i wasn't i wasn't going to be stupid so i didn't put anything in them but uh it's all pined in the sky anyway just like the toilets there's nothing it's a nothing burger at least with those big old stones that the pacific islanders use for money you could use them for a boat anchor at least you can't use Bitcoin for anything thank you joe you made me laugh well it's true yes i agree it is true it just is a great great uh great example of the truth if you uh if you want to go downtown buy an ice cream cone you're going to have to convert that bitcoin to the currency of the day or the money of the day however you want to say it you're not just going to be able to walk in there and hold out your wallet and then take out two dollar fifty cents worth of bitcoin for your ice cream and joe you're absolutely when you're looking at the fundamental of physical you are completely right but sometimes uh in this crazy world uh you never thought you know micro sailor he's the one he's uh the evangelist of bitcoin and look at the some of these videos especially the recent ones hey guys if you got a wallet you could turn anything bitcoin into a very card say if you want to give you the option and you can buy anything you want it doesn't matter how much it costs because they want to give you the option to get a credit card with the bitcoin idea and like i was saying uh he he's been buying billions and billions of bitcoin and uh and you're right it's a scam and he uh he gets in tabbles company and keeps on because it says this company in all companies will die within 10-15 years because of the 20% inflation a year but uh one thing is and and russia i was reading the other day that declaring bitcoin is property the united thing already declaring property when you are capital gains so it's not a currency so no matter if you agree or don't like it it's uh it's not a currency it's supposedly it's meant and some microscientists some other people it's meant for savings instead of having a property uh anywhere in the country in the world or a very unique property and in some downtown city in san francisco in the head in chicago whatever uh that they're able to confiscate or or um raise your taxes or insurance or or you could get a burn uh with bitcoin uh you have it and supposedly they cannot do that they can they cannot steal it they could and if they could try to tax you you go to another jurisdiction like in the case of this this legal tender and uh in that small country in central america so uh it's an interesting aspect in this um 21st of modern thing that you have enough money uh no matter what if you look you're willing to lose two or three or four percent of of your wealth uh maybe it's a little bit too late maybe it's gonna go from a hundred thousand back to ten thousand or like some people think it's gonna go now in this cycle another 250 and uh he's been saying within 21 years they consider based on the data of uh absorbing the bonds and uh and the equities and and people transferring their really state or sending a mistake to and buy the Bitcoin that will be worth 21 million so here's the question i got for all you guys the same way they were saying wow if i would have bought this when it was 10 dollar well it looks cheap uh 21 years for any of us maybe i won't be alive but for any one and we'll be kicking ourselves with the guy i couldn't afford a hundred thousand dollar bitcoin from a saving but i should have bought the five thousand and it'll be worth whatever it is million dollar three million but supposedly it will be worth because of 400 the calculation 450 trillion dollars of wealth and people are transferring uh down but it's very interesting they are creating uh for tax reasons and Russia and many other countries uh oh there are things 10 percent uh and they they're not declaring currency they're declaring uh uh property now the other cryptos or whatever you call them uh those are scammed like every day but this one and it's also written in um in the united nation or uh papers whatever uh statements that that currency or whatever that digital is going to be used so that's my two cents so so so so so so so so so well i think there's some irony that don't be the nut in you in the district court today trying to defend bribery fraud and breach of the trust we'll see what happens did you say that yahoo yeah he's in court today in some basement because they're afraid of bombing yeah he's in court today for uh he's been trying to delay it for a couple of years but finally they got him in court even though stuff is happening in Syria but he does get get this he said i i still need my age to hand me notes in court when i'm testifying i find that pretty ironic okay gotta get the story straight right what's that saying when all else fails you take them to war he uh is he a dual citizen because he he graduated from the same high school as my mother like 15 years later i think in uh out's just outside of Philly morning likely he was a cyanine over here a cyanine for quite a while if not an actual katza and if you read by way of deception you'll know what those terms are he may have been born in states does anybody in here get the informer series those emails they sent out and yes the tax the tax ones yeah yeah yeah when you first signed up they uh send out automatically i think eight of them okay well i'm on like uh i think four it's the one i'm on i was gonna i didn't know that they were i thought they were just like uh i was gonna ask if you understood what they're talking about in peace why don't you share them with him he's over my he's over my head share them with us we'll take them apart i will probably have to post them they're a little bit longer emails it's not like a quick two paragraphs they tend to be like well if they're in pdf format or two if they're over what 20 megabytes or 25 megabytes uh if you post them up in google drive and then pass out a shareable link you know with permission on it to download then uh you know we'll all be able to look at it you know send it out to people's emails or put the link in the that and we can look at it yeah i will i will have to work done that so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so yeah i haven't actually read all those emails so i'm not sure i know just about his tax story which i think got related before about how he had justice after him and then he wrote the attorney general of written and the holy see answered him so that made me curious his basic thing is that you know the whole the whole u.s deal is basically just a big Vatican plantation so that's kind of where he comes from with his research but how that relates to those emails that i haven't done looked at them better up our flagpole and see if it flies right you Hey Brent um you know those pages that Gary talks about on citizen ship evidence do you do you have a PDF file of those one or two or three pages i don't remember citizenship evidence yeah all the laws that relate to the national i don't have to look around and they have to be coming in for work today so i can't let it take a look now okay i'd like to get a copy of that and um start using some of those sites in documentation if not the whole thing if it is only two pages you could really submit the whole thing wasn't likely it's over in the matrix that i'm thinking yeah it's hard to find anything in there though that's great and then it would happen to be a PDF so i could print it yeah it's quicker for you to take a look now we'll get there that may because it's going to take me forever dude even all right over here we go you you you i haven't seen how extensive is that is i mean according to Gary it's like two or three pages that to me would be something to attach to your your notices are you able to summarize any of the points that it makes or i'm kind of curious i hadn't heard about that oh yeah it's it's got the the state department sites in there quotes and um and the irs quote that roger use is all the time i'm sure you know i mean i haven't seen it but that's what i'm assuming is in there everything that has to do with the national status it's a compilation of those things and according to Gary it's it's like two to three pages so that would make it an attachment or so um do a document that you would like to you know notice people it's a it doesn't give them uh any wiggle room that they don't know what a national is and what it means like i want to sort of do my notices and in a more um uh extensive manner so that um they understand who i am where i am what i am and they can't deny it it's like Brent Winters' you know what these guys don't even know what a national is and i i believe that's probably true well we can add a section into any notices which is the meaning of words we use just as we can't do that run me by that again uh the meaning to the words that we use if you notice with Brandon Joe Williams on his uh documents he sends in the meaning of the word words these are what my these are the meanings that i am using when i use these words because this is essentially my truth if that makes sense i'd say that word but it's a definition of terms yeah definition of terms thank you well this is basically the
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