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Dale Liesch talked about Housing Board and Mayor Stimpson threat to fire Kevin Levy - Midday Mobile - Thursday 7-11-24
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Let's get to the meat of this because this story earlier today, I talked about a little bit last hour, but I said you'd be on to be able to flesh this out a little more. You posted this up along with Brady Petrie. So the Mobile Housing Authority, because this goes, I mean the story this morning, Dan and Dalton were talking about, you know, that the 272 acres at the Mobile Airport Authority has bought from the Mobile Housing Authority to expand the footprint of the downtown Airport. And then, okay, I'm like, okay, well, that's something we've talked about. That's okay. That's moving on. And then here y'all come with this story. I'll just read the headline y'all and then let Dale go here. M-A-J-E-C-E-O accuses city officials of coordinating a smear campaign against him. Okay. Do tell. Yeah. Michael Pierce is the president CEO of the Mobile Housing Authority. He has had some interesting interactions with city officials in the past that we have written about. So, you know, there has definitely been some intense back and forth between the two entities more recently. He's been at the helm for five years and basically in a letter that he wrote to board members and then released to media outlets. He complained that specifically that Mayor Stimson's office, people Mayor Stimson's office and some of the Mobile City Council members have been trying to get rid of him and get rid of the board members that Stimson himself put in place. So, for those of you who don't know, the mayor of Mobile is the appointing authority for the Mobile Housing Authority Board. You see the Mobile Housing Board and there and as I'm sure some of you are aware that agency over the last, I don't know, as long as I've been here. So, as long as I've been at Lanyon, just 10 years the last decade, it's just been an absolute mess. Yeah, it's been more. Yeah, it was even preceded you. There's been story after story of people look back that issues surrounding Mobile Housing Board and authority. Yeah. And it just kind of, it all came to a head while I was reporting on them. So, they got into trouble with HUD, they became a troubled agency over. Among the other things, just deplorable living conditions within their housing complexes, not to mention a phishing scam that they accidentally allowed to happen that took, you know, I think, I don't want to misquote it, but I think it was $5 million, maybe it was $4 million of HUD money was stolen from email phishing that someone in the agency allowed to happen. Did they ever get the rush that story? Did they ever get that back or get the bad guys or? I don't think so, but that's actually a good question. I have not been, I have not reported on that in years. So, I do not know where that investigation stands or if they ever, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how aggressively they pursued that. I mean, it was millions of dollars. It was the federal government. So, I assume they pursued it as hard as they would, but it's good, but hell, I don't know. So, anyway, we've got, we've got that, we have that going on, and then they got Michael Pearson about five years ago. And I mean, I, you know, I, I think a lot of people, a lot of people who didn't like the housing authority begin with questioned a lot of the motives and a lot of the things that Michael Pearson had done given that it was such a badly run mess before he got there. I mean, I think he does deserve some credit for making it better, or at least the changes in the board members maybe had a say in making it better. I think he does deserve some credit, but you can also look at how, you know, how long people, people seem to be, there seems to be a mixed opinion on whether or not selling the property that they weren't, that they were, you know, moving everybody out of and had these deplorable living conditions on, selling to the airport was the right move. So, I think people who were already had their issues trust in the housing authority probably didn't love the fact that they sold it to the airport. It's good for the airport though, obviously. And I remember hearing though that they were going to take, they take the money and then buy, buy other places or rent other places for these families to go. And there weren't a ton of families in there. Am I remember that correctly? Or is, well, so they've got the, they've had a wait list for years at the housing authority. So I think it's not just, it's not just for building other places for people to go. It's for, you know, expanding affordable housing in general. You know, you had, at one point, they had like 400 families on a wait list. And, and, and that's, it's hard to stomach that knowledge and see them, you know, not make repairs, but then tear everything down. You know, Roger Williams is gone. And now you've got most of Birdville gone, most of RV Taylor, Plaza gone, and most of Thomas James Place gone. I mean, these people, these people have to go somewhere. And the, you know, the, the wait list has to be, you know, has to go, has to go away if we're going to do what, you know, the housing board is supposed to do. So, so there, yeah, there's a lot of criticism. Meantime, you've got the city will be able to do in its own program with trying to get a thousand, you know, I think they've, they're trying to get a thousand affordable housing units up by a certain time frame. I think they've, I think they've reached to that and they're continuing to expand that program with new projects, you know, and so on and so forth. So, so there's a lot of a budding of heads because you've got two, two entities trying to do the same thing and, and not always seeing eye to eye on how it should get done and not always, you know, not always agreeing on how it should, should get done. So, I think that's the biggest issue here. It seems inefficient to me to have two, two groups doing the same thing. Yeah, and that goes back and that goes back again to just sort of the housing agency being so poorly run in the past, right? These are, these are, these are things where I think the city took control of some of the HUD money that was supposed to go to the housing authority back in the day because housing authority was doing such a poor job. So, I could see the logic of, you know, combining the two efforts in some way and in some respects they have. Like the, I think there was a recent, there was a recent project to, to give, to allow housing for police fired teachers out over by a city property that was by a school. I think the housing board collaborated with them on that. So, there are, there are some instances where they collaborate, but yeah, I could see the argument for making it more efficient. Either, either, either the city needs to stop doing it, but the housing board do all of it, or the housing board needs to go away and the city needs to be taken care of it, either, either way. And I think that's some, somewhat of where the issues are now, for sure. Did I understand you correctly what you said? At the head of the, this is under the auspice, uh, MHA answers to the mayor or the mayor somehow is over this. So, I couldn't, the mayor just say what it's going to do and not do. We, we lost Dale. We lost Dale. See if we can get Dale back. I don't know, but it's happened to Dale. Can y'all see what's going on back there? And we'll, we'll see, I'll tell you what we can do. We can, uh, we'll go, we'll go the news and come right back and get Dale on. Uh, we can do that, or is that, is he good? This is, this is fluid, y'all. This is a lot of fun. We do it like this. All right. Uh, we will do, uh, we'll get Dale whenever. I think that I worry, because I heard seagulls there and I worried that the seagulls could have gotten them. So, we'll be right back. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065. Like 119 FM Talk 1065 and through the miracles of modern telecommunication. Let me see. Go back to Dale Lees for planning out, landing at mobile.com. Dale, are you there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My phone got too hot, but we're good now. Yeah, I hold another discussion here because we'll get back to the mobile housing authority, but the phone's getting too hot. So I dealt with that, you know, uh, over the independent state extended weekend. Unless I have it, like if it's out on the deck of my boat, it's too hot immediately. Like it's like they need to come out with phones who can handle the heat. You know, they put all the new things, the new whatever model 23 should be the one that could take, take heat in the south. You know, just, yeah, it's, it's ridiculous. I'm just outside, and I had it on the table and landing at world headquarters. And it just, they cut me off, it got too hot. I wish they would have at least warned me I could have moved it. Yes. Give you a little thing. Hey, you're getting within 10 degrees of the cut off temperature, but we got you on. So what now I was asking you with the housing board and the position that the mayor, Mayor Stimson has over the housing board, couldn't he just make this decision himself or? Well, he's got it. So the board makes the decision on, you know, the, the higher fire, the executive or the meeting director. Now, I guess it's the president of CEO. So, so while he makes the appointment, he doesn't necessarily control how they vote. All of that. I guess that's kind of the idea of say they, they are on the board at his pleasure, but I think, I think what has to happen is they have to finish out a term before he can make a change or he can convince them to resign and appoint somebody might be more willing to, to do what he wants. If that were indeed, if that's, if that's indeed the case that he wants to get rid of Michael Pearson, I don't know that to be the case. I know that, I know that the, you know, things between the two entities, like I said, have been, have been not great recently, but, but who said, yes, the idea that to the sale of the property, who said, like, is that the Mobile Housing Authority that said yes to the sale of the 272 acres to the airport? Correct. Okay. That was the, that was the housing board. And I don't, I don't necessarily think the city was against that move. I, I don't, you know, because, you know, that kind of thing were in, but I didn't, I never had that memo. I'm just assuming, which is dangerous, but, you know, no, and, and me too, but like they, they've been, they've been accommodating for everything involving this, you know, move of the airport service. So I, you know, I'm with you too. I, and I would call it an educated guess is that they don't, they, I don't think this is coming out. I don't think this letter from Michael Pierce is coming out in response to the 272 acres being sold because that, that's something he was in favor of. And I don't necessarily think the city was against it. Um, I just, I think the timing, maybe we, maybe we don't read too much into the timing. It just happened when it happens. Okay. All right. All right. Yeah. Because that's kind of where I went with it. I didn't know if that one led to the other. Well, let's, uh, let's continue. Let's, let's turn to the next chapter of this book called Problems for the City of Mobile and, uh, Mobile City Council meeting on Tuesday and the question about who the subpoena writes, uh, Levy, the arguments going on about some being subpoenaed. Try her question twice. Can you bring us up to date on this and the investigation into the firing of breaking and I've got some breaking news in the storm about to post right before you called. So I will, I will give you some breaking news on this. Yeah. So the city council on Tuesday voted to subpoena Kevin Levy, the commander, Kevin Levy, the commander of the Gulf Coast Technology Center, uh, in, in its continuing investigation into allegations made by Paul Prine, you know, talking about financial in propriety and other issues that, that he saw within the mayor's administration, the city of Mobile itself. So the, uh, the attorney Chris Callahan for, for, for Levy sent out a, uh, sent out a memo or a letter to, uh, to blast in this. Uh, basically the special council basically just saying we will not testify again. We testified, I think for five hours in previous interviews. So we're all good. We're not, we're not going to do this again. And so the city council had to come back Tuesday and say, well, we're going to make you, we're going to compel you to testify with the subpoena. Well, flash forward to tomorrow. I mean, platform to yesterday, so the day after a Wednesday and the, uh, Chris Callahan calls and confirms to me that they actually will, they will agree to testify with us in this again, our second time. And the reason for that and what would, what's going to be in the storm about the post is that the city of Mobile and Mayor Stinson sent, uh, Levy, a letter saying, if you don't testify, you will be fired basically, which is something he had said would happen for any employee who did not cooperate with the investigation previously. So, so, and leaving reports to the mayor right in the chain of command. Correct. Correct. Well, yeah, the mayor has the, the mayor has the, uh, the mayor can fire him. Yes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how the reporting structure works. I think, I think, uh, I think that he might report directly to the mayor. He might report to Chief of Staff James Barber or to, uh, the public safety director. I'm not a hundred percent sure. I haven't seen, I haven't looked at the org chart recently, but, but yes, to answer your question, the mayor does have the authority to hire and fire him if he wanted to. Okay. Cause I was wondering, I don't know all the details, but when I saw this on Tuesday, you know, I wondered if, if you're doing an investigation, and I want everybody that Thanos wants to ask questions to be asked questions to. So when we close this thing out, I don't know how many days we have left in this and the timeline, but that they feel like all questions were answered properly, right? So people aren't going, oh, well, they didn't, you know, we did all this and spent all this money and we didn't get all the questions answered. And I just would think that, you know, if you're interviewing people and you interview, uh, Dale first, and then later you're interviewing me and I said, well, you know, Dale Leash did such and such or whatever, they should be able to come back to you and say, hey, Sullivan said you said this and we need to ask you about it. I do, I do that all the time, Sean, in my job. I do that all the time where I'm like, I think I have a pretty good interview with somebody, pretty eye-opening interview, and then I call somebody, I have to call somebody back because somebody said something different. I just have to clarify or, you know, you know, verify what's accurate, what's not. So, so yes, that is, uh, that is, that would indeed make sense, but I also get it from a standpoint of, you know, if you've been, if you've already questioned for five hours, you don't really want to do it again. I get, I get that too. So, um, and I, and to back, back to your point about it, you know, satisfying people, I'm just gonna go on a limb here and I wouldn't trust me to like lottery numbers or anything, but I will say my, my assumption here is that nobody going to be happy with the results of this investigation. Either people say it was unnecessary and yeah, to the ability to say it was unnecessary in the first place or that it was a waste of money because they didn't find, they didn't find anything bad that the mayor did, which I think is ultimately going to be what happens here. I don't think there's going to be anything, but maybe the mayor didn't do anything wrong, but I mean, it can look into, I don't, what, what in whom did something wrong, it, you know, it's not like it has to come out, right? The mayor may not have done anything, right? Right. Fair enough, but that's, that's my point. I like, no matter what comes out, I think you're going to have two sides either it was unnecessary because they didn't find anything or, you know, oh, well, they didn't do enough to find anything. I think you're going to have an issue with both sides being unsatisfied, which is typically what happens with city government. It is true for sure. All right, Dale, remind folks, because this story, I mean, the housing authority is story breaking today. I mean, y'all have some big stories to break online. Daily, how do people get subscribed? How do they get in the mix for for Lanya? lanyamobile.com is the website. Just click the prompts to subscribe if you haven't already. I highly recommend you do that. Not only do you get a digital copy of the paper version of the paper that comes out every week, but you get all the late breaking salacious news that we write about on a daily basis. So, so pick it up, you know, pick it up at the, at, pick up the hard copy, all over town, or, you know, stay in your pajamas and just click on it if you subscribe. And I guess the best way to get the news is next week, nappies, when you'll release those? Yeah, I think that's the 17. The next Wednesday's paper will be officially announced. And, and then that all of that will start, you know, all the fun will start after that. There you go. It's a very popular paper next week. Very much so. All right, Dale, as always, man, I appreciate it. Go get your phone cooled off and we'll talk again next week. Hey, man, I'll see you. I'll see you next week. Thank you. Right. There he goes. Dale Lee from Lanya at lanyamobile.com. And yeah, next week, nappies. 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And I was, you know, I guess yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, last evening, whenever it came up, Congressman Carl posted this, said, "By the way, Congressman Carl will join us at noon tomorrow on the show," said nearly 200 Democrats just voted against the SAVE Act, which prohibits illegal immigrants from voting. They prioritize illegal immigrants over law abiding American citizens. This is America last. Yeah, so, and thank you, Tim, sent the screenshot. So the breakdown on the vote, and I could go back, whatever the acronym is. You know how they are in Washington? Let's make an acronym for everything. But it said the US House has passed the SAVE Act that would require, "Think about this." This is what's interesting. I'm talking to a liberal friend yesterday, I think, and they were, I was like, "Please help me. Please help me understand how I'm all wrong on this," because the SAVE Act would require proof of citizenship to vote. That's what it's doing. Like, you would have to be, I know, concept is wild. You'd have to be a citizen of the country to vote in the elections for the country. So the votes went down this way. 216 Republicans were yeses or yeas. Five Democrats were yeses or yeas. 198 Democrats, so it's 198, Congressman, 198 Democrats were no votes on the SAVE Act. Now, one of the arguments pushed, I don't have any of the stories in front of me, but off top of my head, one of the arguments that's been pushed on this first one is that it is a rare, rare thing for this to happen, that there's so few cases of this out there happening, right? That why are the Republicans getting on this? And, believe me, there are a lot of times, both sides, but there's a lot of times that a lot of times that things are pushed, even at the state level, for, you know, it's like, how many times have we seen a bill, probably two or three times in Alabama where it's like a law to ban Sharia law in Alabama? I go, you know, there's not a big, we don't have to, not a big issue for Sharia law being imposed in Alabama. We're doing that for political expediency. But in this case, it happens some, and to codify that you should have to be a citizen of the United States to vote in the election doesn't seem real renegade or just throwing out political red meat. I know to the left it does. It seems like political red meat, but if it's such a rare thing, people on the left and Democrats that are against the SAVE Act, if it's such a rare thing, it just does not happen, then what do you care if it's codified into law? Right? I mean, if you're, if you're argument against the SAVE Act to make sure you have to be a citizen to vote in the federal election, if it's such a thing that then what do you care? What do you care if it happens? Why? Why are you so upset about it? If it's this thing that doesn't hardly exist, it would upset you so much. This is not a rhetorical question. It's a, it can be rhetorical as well, but it's honest question. What is it? Now, I said, I think one day we were talking about this, often this gets rolled in with an idea that's floated out that, hey, this is to disenfranchise black voters. Right? We talked about that the other day, which there have been, listen, the history of our country, there are things absolutely they were done decades and decades ago to disenfranchise black voters. It's 2024. Everybody can get an ID, okay? So don't give me that story from the hill reads it this way, it's coming from the hill, which is, you know, a left of where a lot of y'all are, but the hill does okay job. Said House Republicans and a handful of Democrats prove the bill that seeks to expand proof of citizenship requirements to vote in federal elections and impose voter roll purge requirements on states legislation that has been touted by former president Trump. Well, then it must be must be wrong, right? Said the legislation formerly titled the Safeguard, here's the acronym, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, SAVE Act, cleared the chamber chamber with a 221 to 198 vote with five Democrats voting. Yes, it now heads to the Senate where it all but certain to be ignored amid opposition from Democrats. So remember, it's got up. And even if it gets through the Senate, President Biden has vowed to veto the measure, or at least the best he remembers. Said opponents, the bill say it's core idea. Okay, it's core idea. Establishing non-citizen voting as illegal is redundant and argue that its provisions will more likely lead to US citizens being denied the right to vote than to preventing votes by foreign nationals. Hogwash. Hogwash. Quite often I see the nuance in things that irritates and ruffles the feathers of some of y'all are like, John, why aren't you harder on that? And I said, now, because there's, there's nuance in things. I've been doing this long enough that I realized it's that, but this one give me a stink and break. It says, because it's redundant. Let's welcome to the world of government. Y'all redundant. Y'all, there probably is a department of redundancy department somewhere in Washington. You're saying, we can't do this as redundant. They argued that provisions will more likely lead to US citizens being denied the right to vote than preventing votes by foreign nationals. Okay, you're telling me the US citizen doesn't have a redress if they are somehow, they're not going to be denied the right to, they might be denied somehow in some scenario they can come up with. Yeah, somebody goes into vote and they say, well, you know, you don't have, you're not a citizen. Well, I am. Well, you're not. Guess what you do? How many times we've had the probate judge on here? You have a, you make your vote, right? But it's a, it's held back till you can prove the, I can't believe I just lost that word, whatever it is, provisional vote. So you make the vote. And then when you get, you show that I'm a citizen, dude, count that vote B, to put it in street lingo, then you do. So you're saying that the fear that is redundant, but then they say it's redundant, but it might prevent people citizens from the right, they're just throwing any kind of spaghetti they can at the wall in this thing. So it's bigger by Johnson. Meanwhile argued on the house floor that the legislation is necessary because non citizens have voted in US elections, despite it being illegal to do so. Johnson said, even though it's already illegal, this is happening. It made Johnson told reporters, we all know intuitively that a lot of illegals are voting in federal elections, but it's not been something that is easily provable. We don't have a number. This legislation will allow us to do exactly that, it will prevent that from happening. And if someone tries to do it, it will now be unlawful within the states. It says, end quote, most researchers who have studied voting patterns said that Johnson's intuition is wrong. One study by the Brennan Center for Justice about 30 suspected non-confirmed cases of non-citizen voting out of 23.5 million. Okay. So what's your issue with it? If nobody's doing it, because you can't sit there as somebody who's unless you're a first term member of Congress, first term member of Congress, you can say, I wouldn't hear dude, that wouldn't me. Other than that, y'all have voted on a bunch of stuff that's redundant. And you're telling me, well, there's very few people this ever happened, then good, pass it, move on, pass it and move on. And yes, does it have, they'll say, well, you know, it's just for politics. Well, in some cases, if it's just for politics and it codifies something that should be the law in the first place is a good thing. And I'm sorry, Dr. Bergana said hogwash language, young man. I don't know. Yesterday after talking about decorum, right? And I get, but I get, there are, there are many times that these things come up and I go, yeah, y'all, there's a nuance to this. There's, this is politically expedient. You know, I see that. And then sometimes I go, what are you talking about? Just pass the thing and move on. So the Democrats have voted against it. Tell me why you voted against it. Because it's redundant. So the Democrats are now the party of preventing redundancy in Washington. Right, dog. Be right back. More bidamobile. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk one oh six five. All right, one fifty one FM talk. I need some one fifty one right now in my life. So midday mobile. Hey, so many things. This is the easiest one to deal with. I am the Susan Lucci. All people understand that. Although I never saw her, but I know it's a thing. She was a soap opera star. I guess I never won the, where they had the Emmy, what was daytime tea, whatever, the Tony, the Emmys, the, the Susies, the bot, whatever the award. For two, she would never win those. She was always like, I always nominated never won the years that I've been putting in. And the number, so the state just came back. If you put in for your gator tag this year, state just kicked out the emails to tell you if you got picked or not for the for the gator hunt for different zones. I've put in for two different zones, the coastal in the southwest Alabama. And best I got on one of them is an alternate. I've been guiding people gator hunting for 16, 17 years. All these people get drawn at the ocean. Y'all got you. I don't care. I don't have to kill the gator. It's not. But you think the odds here with the building points, if next year I should have, I think it's because they, they take something when you don't get drawn, they multiply and you put back in that many times, I might have 16 million preference points by next year. Once again, always the bridesmaid, never the bride. So that just came in. That's the easiest thing I have to deal with today. All right. 3430106. And I teach Jesus says, illegal's voting tells you what the Dems will be doing. They really do always tell us what they will be doing beforehand. A opinion I think Biden is still confident he will win because he knows the fix is still in. We'll see. Do I think that the, the illegals voting is what got Biden the close win he had? No, I don't. But to codify and make sure that people that aren't, I don't know, citizens of the United States aren't voting in our elections. I think it's a good thing. I think that's a good, I don't think that makes me hateful that I want you to be a citizen. And y'all look, citizens look all kind of different ways. I just want citizens voting. Because if you're not, it's like the census. Okay. And there may be some, some argument of, you know, why they got to collect data on the census about people that are here, undocumented, illegal immigrants, whatever it is. But here's the problem that when they do the census data, they're not getting that to give them the right to vote, but they are apportioning representation. Do you all remember this from the census? They apportion representation based on the population there of all the people that respond to the census. They don't make it about the citizens. That makes no sense to me. Because if, if, if, if you look at the people, if you, it's representation, right? This is a system our founders put it for citizens of that country, not representation of just everybody who happens to be there. I don't, I don't think this is edgy stuff. I think this is just common sense. This is just common sense. Democrats, if it never happens in woody care, sign off, pass the law, and move on. And on the census thing, if you want to have a part of the census that says, hear the people that are not citizens in that area too, fine. You use it for your data crunching and put it in the machine, fine. But if you then use that to apportion representation to a district in the, in the beauty of our system, but you use it for people that aren't citizens, spleen, Lucy, spleen to me. How that makes any sense? 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. Like I said, we will talk about this tomorrow, representative A.L. 1's representative, Jerry Carl joins us at noon on the show. Also, got Dr. Philip Carr coming back on too. So we've, with the University of South Alabama, in the anthropology department, and a new story out about, keep getting this data out about how long we think people have been in the new world. Like we have these ideas, they've been, and they keep new information coming out going. Yeah, they've been there longer than you thought. Because we had this whole thing, we studied the Bering Land Bridge, right? When you're kidding, I've got the books all over, and you go, okay, you're, you know, they crossed at this point, so they could have only been through these parts of the Americas by then, and this and by then, and then they get some artifact that's way down at the Tiro Del Fuego at the tip of South America, and it messes that thing up. New story out about that, and I'll talk about that, and as always, the Native American indigenous populations of Alabama, it's always fun, Philip Carr joins me at one o'clock tomorrow. All right, to the telephones at 3430106, I got about two minutes left here, it is Sarah in Mobile. Hey, Sarah. Hey, Sean, how are you doing? Man, I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Now, this is going to take a few minutes, so let me get, get it started. Everybody's saying that Trump is lying. If you just stop lying, and the last night someone said that to me, and I said, "Well, tell me what his lies are. Tell me what he's lied about." Well, he had the lowest, he had the highest unemployment rate, we had the highest deficit, we had all this stuff, and I said, "No, no, I want you to tell me what he's lying about for the first three and a half years." COVID started. That's when everybody lost their job. That's when all the prices went up. That's when we couldn't get things. That's when he's not giving those, those, what do you call it numbers, giving the numbers for his first three and a half years. Let me tell you about that. I'll tell you the same thing he did. The border was closed, the world wasn't in war, we had low crime rates, we could go to the grocery store and pretty much buy what we want, but one was going in sleeping from us. I had more money in my pocket that I had in a long time. Now, tell me what he's lying about after three and a half years. No, I think we've talked about this before. I will say absolutely Trump overstates a lot of things, but it is, you compare that with Biden. That way I look at it as my favorite Biden story out of all the makeup make-believe stuff he does is where he was a truck driver. The truth is, he took a ride in a semi, I think at the passenger seat one time, the next thing you know, he's a long-haul trucker. Where Biden makes that story out of whole cloth, Trump would say, "I got the ride in the truck," and that driver said, "I was the best passenger he'd ever had, and there'd never been a passenger so good." That's the difference between the lines, right? Where Trump would have some idea that he's so great, and nobody ever rode better than him in the truck. Biden will tell you he was driving the truck, so appreciate the call up against the end of the show, but we'll do it all again tomorrow, another edition of Midday Mobile. Paul Finebaum takes over in just minutes.