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Baldwin County Sheriff Huey Hoss Mack on his career - Mail Theft at FM Talk involving a Rat Trap - Midday Mobile - Thursday 7-11-24
there will be no personal nor direct attacks on anyone and I would ask that you please try to keep down the loud cheering and the clapping there will be no booing and no unruly behavior with that this is painful and it will be for a long time that's right this man knows what's up after all these are a couple of high stepping turkeys and you know what to say about a high stepper no step too high for a high stepper this is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 106-5 was shot the tough guy I mean I think everybody knows that here Sean they took some licks he hangs in there yeah what's wrong with the beer we got I mean the deal we got drink pretty good don't you hear what I said so this is a bathe council I had no doubt about them that doesn't stop if you don't like it your bad last question were you high on drugs last question kiss my right away we go FM Talk 106-5 and midday mobile glad to have you here on this Friday Eve Thursday edition of the show speaking of which coming up by an hour number two Dale Lees from Land Apple join us like it does usually on Tuesdays and a heads-up - I know we're gonna talk about this probably more tomorrow we talked about it a little bit with Dr. Sean Powers yesterday but the kids the youths and Bobby and I talked about this morning the Roy Barton Young Anglers tournament happening down at the rodeo site this Saturday so in you know a day and a half from now I get the kids out to go fishing any other questions about that I can probably answer those on the text line which is at 343-01-06-3430-1-06 for a phone call or a text if you got a question you can get it through on that because it is it's good to have this man on it's it's sad that this will be the last time I talked to him in his position I think the last time I talked to him in his position that he holds currently but there's a lot of stuff in the future for mobile he Baldwin County Sheriff Hollis Mack joining us now on midday mobile thanks for your time sheriff I was and when this came out and I know because I want to hear from you how long you've been thinking about this but I was it seemed abrupt to me right because I had obviously hadn't been in your orbit and when I heard this the other day I said oh my gosh what he's a young guy you know what he's retiring from the sheriff's office but then start looking how long you've been working in the sheriff's department you've been there a while yeah I began my career in law enforcement in 1985 in Mobile with the Alabama Department forensic sciences and then in 1989 I came to work with the sheriff's office and then in 2006 I ran for sheriff and of course I'm in my fifth term so I got to work in at an early age I came to work in law enforcement actually at 20 years of age so I'll be 60 this year so it's it's it's been a little while but it has flown by okay I want to pick this up so it's 1989 and your deputy sheriff they're in Baldwin County think about y'all just I'm picturing Baldwin County in 1989 which is still a big difference from 79 but 1989 to 2024 there's probably not I don't know in the state of Alabama or outside the state of Alabama a lot of counties that have seen that growth and here you are the chief law enforcement officer over that county tell me what that was like well as you know we've gained several municipalities that have incorporated since 1989 our population is just about tripled during that time our transient population which is our visitors vacationers and people that live here several months out of the year has all of those have grown I've told other sheriffs when I talked to them I envy a sheriff's office that is not in a constant state of change and that's what we've been since I've since I came to work with the sheriff's office but particularly since I've been sheriff so you know we're dealing with a lot more people a lot more traffic a lot more situations and of course the different things that we've had to address over the past few years so and we're continuing to grow again you know we have the jail project going on up in Baymanette right now we're hoping to finish that project probably mid-year next year so there's just always you got a at the top of our list every years how we're going to address the growth yeah and that's something you have to I'm guessing and you could that you have to catch up with right you can't go do you with it as a sheriff and go listen y'all the projection on population growth in our county is this in the next three years so I need to get deputies staffed at this level to be ready for it or is it you meet the the belts too tight you know because you've had to you got this growth and now you have to add extra deputies I mean is it Carter horse which which is in front well we use a lot of a lot of avenues of information to kind of help us with our projections for instance we look at the school system of how many new students are being enrolled we work with the Baldwin County Realtors Association we work with the Baldwin County Economic Alliance we work with all the Chamber of Commerce's and even to the point of working with our two large utility companies and Baldwin County so historically you can look at those and kind of get an aggregate number if you will right now I think most people agree we're probably growing right now between six to seven thousand people per year one of the biggest things however though is you know there's still substantial growth within the municipalities of course we have 14 municipalities but now a lot of the population is moving out into the rural areas there's a lot of development this goal for the rural areas and of course that's the primary focus of the sheriff's office even though we do a lot of things in our cities and towns as well but the the rural areas are our primary responsibility it is though you know I talk about this with a sheriff birch you that people say well I saw you know the sheriff's departments inside some city and I always think about it like what is it those GIS maps I mean well municipalities do the work once they're incorporated y'all still are responsible for everything that's Baldwin County right that is correct and you know particularly we have you know we have twelve police departments five of our police departments in Baldwin County or what we would call relatively small departments which means they may not have full-time investigators may not have a you know people that have a lot of experience so we get called in to a lot of these municipalities to assist with case investigations over the past year we've actually been called in to three of our municipalities to help out because they had manpower shortages they did not have sufficient personnel to provide 24-hour service to their cities so we came in and we you know helped them out and continue to do so when those type situations arise think about the and I don't know if this is written down but the kind of calls that you know what y'all got the most kind of calls for in 1989 versus 2024 is that a has there been a change I mean with is it more of a you know Burrow calls back then to municipal adjacent calls now or have you don't track that stuff we do and you know what you know the we can always talk about the drug problem the drug epidemic drugs have always been a huge issue with any law enforcement agency but you know with Baldwin County we have seen an increase property related crime and that's just simply related to the fact there's more people here you're talking 265,000 that may be in the county today versus all the way back then when it was 85,000 so you're looking at the total difference that you have there we did have this past year of great concern was we had almost triple the number of drug overdoses and 90% of those were attributed to fentanyl so I can remember the day when you know when we transitioned it was crack cocaine and then it went from crack cocaine to methamphetamine then heroin kind of started popping back up on the streets a few years ago simply because it was so cheap and now we're transitioning over to fentanyl and infentals being mixed with all the other drugs as well and so you know we have seen those type changes you know over those past years and think about the the drug side of it also I was thinking about also the mental health I remember you know this has been an issue for Mobile County when I guess the first term a governor Bentley I think I might make second term where the state changed how it was doing you know housing people with mental illness there's a lot of people that went right back into the communities and all of a sudden I watched law enforcement at municipal level and sheriff's departments having to like do a new job right I mean be in the the mental health department which is not what y'all are trained for right now the Alabama sheriff's we operate the largest mental health facilities in the state unfortunately that is in the county jail yeah and so we have had to develop a lot of programs I know in our sheriff's office just within the past two years we have stood up three different partnerships with our partners such as out-to-point East Point the Baldwin County mental health working with different things trying to address you know we never wanted to be in a position of a treatment facility because it's very hard to actually treat someone in a correctional facility for mental illness because of the environment but we do want to try to do what we can do to assess refer follow-up and try to do those things so just in the past as I said the past two years we had to initiate three different programs two of which are strictly within the correction center and one of which is an outpatient referral program that we dealt with and so mental health has really become a big issue because we are so far behind on commitment beds full-time beds in the state of Alabama so the majority of people that are going through a mental health issue trying to get treated to being treated as out patient and that just kind of lends itself sometimes to the the number of those people that get in crises and you know have to be referred or have to be dealt with by law enforcement so so if like in 1989 the training your deputies are getting now and have been on dealing with that was not exactly part of the protocol in 1989 I can imagine now I mean you know I went through police academy in 1985 my police academy was seven weeks long now the most police academies now are 14 weeks long and they have all these components you know Alabama passed to law just in the past session where every police officer now has to undergo sensitivity training as it relates to autism autism has become a big issue and so that's something once again that's new and so the training aspect just continues to grow and to grow and to grow to meet with all these different circumstances you know that we're having to deal with just joining us talking to Baldwin County Sheriff Hoss Mac from the text line here Sheriff this texture said legal immigrants dealing with illegal immigrants in crime in Baldwin County how that has exploded the texture asking yeah you know most recently I think might be referring to the latest arrest of the DUI manslaughter charge of the person that was driving the car where the six-year-old child died and you know we definitely see an increase of what we believe to be undocumented and illegal aliens unfortunately there's very little that we can do about that at the local level the federal government is the one that controls those things and enforces those things because they have nationwide jurisdiction and these people typically flow from another country and then state to state so one of the things our facility we actually are a ice temporary detention facility where an illegal is arrested for a crime and they're brought to us within 72 hours they have to be evaluated as to their status but what we've seen most of the time none of these people are being deported they are given actual court date to go before an immigration court immigration judge to see what their current status is and right now they're setting those dates three and four years out so when that person gets out of jail and gets that paperwork and they have to go to an immigration judge which in our areas in New Orleans majority those people don't go and overwhelmingly majority people go don't go and so that's where some of our problem is but we have seen a definite increase in Baldwin County I think one of the things that I would project is when we get the 2030 census when it comes out you're going to see that the Hispanic population in Baldwin County will be our largest minority and this is and so it really I mean it's going to show it but it currently is in your approximation yes sir yes sir and before we go the news here and come back I have a question here about it says has he named a successor I know you you you have you have named the person that even though it's up to the governor talk it talk us through this sure real quick so what we call the old wall which had been effect since 1901 was that if the sheriff vacated his office the coroner became the acting sheriff until the governor major deployment well because of all the specific training and law enforcement now that you've got to have and all the different requirements the Alabama legislature a couple years ago passed the new law that said that the highest ranking member of the sheriff's office would become the acting sheriff if the office was vacated and the governor has two choices either the governor can just allow that to stay in place or the governor can actually make an appointment for the remainder of my term which would end in January of two thousand and twenty seven so because of the way the law is and because of consistency with our office and all the projects were in I am recommending to the governor that she consider appointing my chief deputy Anthony Lowry to that position which would allow us to have a person in place to finish the jail project keep consistency going on as we go into this before the next election which will be in two thousand and twenty six all right coming right back with the sheriff Paul Smack we're gonna talk about what's next or yeah at that point here again you'll be I don't know if you'll still be a sure he'll be part of the sheriff's association listen we'll have the sheriff explained it when we return right here on mid-day mobile this is mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 106 5 1223 FM Talk 165 Midday Mobile on this Thursday and I'm in conversation with Sheriff Paul Smack Sheriff of Baldwin County and we'll transition here to what's next and you're moved to your new job you're not gonna I mean you know you're not gonna just sit in the easy chair and take it easy here huh you're gonna do something else yeah you know Sean this actually began a process I want to say probably about three years ago we had a executive director for the Alabama Sheriff's Association for 47 years his name was Bobby Timmons Bobby was kind of a legend in Montgomery he had been a deputy sheriff in Jefferson County and then was elected to the Alabama House of Representatives and the first director that they had of ASA had retired and so Sheriff Mel Bailey was the sheriff of Jefferson County and he encouraged Bobby to take that as a temporary position so we always joked that he served in that temporary position for 47 years so when Bobby when Bobby was going to retire and he and I were very close Bobby came to me and he said you need to take this job and I said I'm just not ready I just wasn't the right time so I actually participated and we hired another director that came to work with us for a short period of time and then he decided to to move on and so it came up again when this came about and do a lot of prayer family consultation and everything I just saw it as an opportunity that I can help out the 67 sheriffs of the state of Alabama and do some good things maybe try to do a few things a little bit differently but bring a breath of fresh air into the association and build some great relationships with our legislature with the Alabama County Commission Association with our executive branch of the government Attorney General's office governor things of that nature that we're going to be able to do so it was an opportunity that presented itself again and I just felt like it was probably the time to go ahead and make that move I think what you just listed is good for people to hear that what sheriffs the links because you have I mean sheriff and county so you you obviously the county Commission is a big deal at the same time laws are passed in Montgomery through the legislature that affect a sheriff's position or the county and then the execution of those through the executive branch and the judicial with the you know the AG's office in Aliyah I mean all those are part of the world of a sheriff that's correct and that's one of the things that makes a sheriff's office more unique than any law enforcement with my with all due respect to municipalities and our state agencies but the sheriffs are the officers of the court and so all of your court actions that come down are are going down through your sheriff's offices which those that includes everything from warrants to subpoenas to garnishments to evictions to all kinds of different things are all channeled through the sheriff's offices and then once again as you said it's usually in each county the sheriff's office is usually the largest law enforcement agency and so they're the ones that are providing assistance and working with our local municipalities and we just want to make sure that we capitalize on those relationships and make sure that we continue to build that we've got it very diverse sheriffs we've got one sheriff's office in the state that I think has eight deputies and then you've got the largest sheriff's office in the state is Jefferson County and they're currently a substantial amount of number of deputies down so we've always had memorandums of understanding with all of our sheriffs across the state and we help each other out I've sent deputies to other counties to help out the same thing has happened here in times of hurricanes and things of that nature but we just want to make sure we're building that relationship building that positive image with all of our partners and everything so that we can make sure that our citizens are getting the best service possible by their sheriff's offices as you as you leave this office said next month to the new job think you're proud of stuff from your time as a deputy sheriff but uh your five terms as sheriff of Baldwin County is one thing stand out I think it's our children's programs that's one of the things I mean I could list we've grown in every division we actually now have 22 divisions in the sheriff's office which I never would have I think when I came to work with the sheriff's office there may have been eight or nine but you know our SRO program obviously that has been a flagship for us being able to put a sworn deputy sheriff or police officer in every public school in Baldwin County some schools have as many as three or four our camp shining star that we do which is a youth or a children's camp during the summer the different programs is at and then I would probably say next to that is the fact of just keeping up with the general growth of what we've had we've you know I've got people that serve in the sheriff's office that have all kinds of national certifications they're recognized as experts in their field and so but that comes because we had to we had to address the growth we had to address what we were doing so I think it's what we've been able to do with children and the youth in our county and then the way that we've been able to keep up with the growth that is uh keeping up with the growth I can imagine when you're you're in your new position any county that says hey you don't understand we're growing in our county you'll be able to go okay tell you about growth here's how you deal with it we'll share if I appreciate that and if we don't talk before next time we'll talk we'll be talking about what's going on with the sheriff's association that sounds very good thank you so much for having me today hey my pleasure there he goes uh Baldwin County Sheriff Paul Smack gonna go take a new job as head of the Sheriff's Association for the 67 counties in Alabama that you hear me reference a lot usually during legislative session right we're talking about different bills that are moving and where the sheriff's association is on those bills so we'll be reaching out to Sheriff Smack at that point going forward all right get your calls and texts when we come back at 343 0106 plus we mentioned this now but we'll talk about it in detail with the police from land nap after one o'clock as the head of uh MHA the CEO of the Mobile Housing Authority accuses city officials of coordinating a smear campaign against them and and and so the so the warm turns for the city mobile doesn't it be right back this is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk 1065 and 1236 FM talk 106 5 midday mobile about so i saw it so i've got a e-bike maybe you heard my uh my magnum uh the brand is magnum that the model i have is a scout that i got from my buddy Clint Jamison a couple years ago an adventurer bicycle has been riding it loving it but mine is a like it's got the regular top bar like it looks like it's it's beefier than a regular bicycle because the e-bike is it's got the bigger tires because mine's an off-road version but i did look at the step throughs the other day and i'm not ready for it yet so do not type the mean text yet but maybe the next 10 years or so uh the step throughs will be right for me have you seen those so the 75 e-bikes in stock at any time at my buddy Clint Jamison's place adventure earth bicycles right there kind of caddy cornered across from ruse chris the uh selection's got the top rail normal bikes that look like a normal bike look like a band's bike right and i like button but i'm thinking you know i mean another 10 years or so would those step throughs be right for me i'm looking at them and there's a big selection of step throughs so they still have the same battery charge power you know the distance they can go and all that but you don't have to swing your leg is hard to get on on the horse there you can step through others like did not go in a couple of these models out there had the step through feature on them so it's something to check out if you think well you know i i've been thinking about the sea bike Sean's been talking about these e-bikes but i don't know if i want to you know be climbing back on the bike they got them you step right through and they're pretty slick so with 75 in stock of any time there's one that's right for you or maybe several that are right for you in the e-bike world in addition to any of the accessories you need for those e-bikes they got them and your e-bikes non-e-bikes he's got a bunch of non-e-bikes 400 of those in stock uh you can get tuned up and go in there and get your current bike tuned up and get all the work done on it and if you buy a bike from adventure earth bicycles quarterly you can take your bike by and they will do for free make sure your brakes are properly lined and working the brake pads are set correctly make sure the shifters are working all the gears are lubed and properly working check the air pressure and the tires everything so it'd be kind of a fun family thing to get all your bikes and go down there on a saturday or something and get the tune-ups done on them it's my friend Clint Jamison adventure earth bicycles huge selection of bikes whether they're e-bikes or non-e-bikes they're at the corner of little flower and airport in midtown they're online at adventure-earth.com go see them today all right uh to the uh story here that i just mentioned this and we'll we'll talk about this at length with dale leash coming up after one o'clock but this just uh up at land at mobile.com said uh less than 24 hours because you heard denn adult in this morning talking about the purchase of the uh MHA property for the airport and that's something that uh that chris kurry and i had talked about a couple different times he's with mobile airport authority so they talked about that purchase of of land there north of i-10 next to the brookley the international airport there and here's the story that came out from dale and um brady petri both from land nap said less than 24 hours after announcing the sale of 272 acres for future construction of the new international airport mobile housing authority ceo michael pierce has released a scathing letter accusing city officials of coordinating a smear campaign against him and board members in an attempt to oust them from their positions in a seven-page letter addressed to MHA commissioners so mobile housing authority commissioners and sent to media outlets and city officials on thursday uh this morning pierce claims that he has been the target of a deliberate negative portrayal by local leaders who are attempting to fire him as ceo says for the last uh two of three years pierce kurry uh pierce claims city officials have been conspiring with two of MHA's biggest critics larry hunter and estella trotter to paint a disparaging image of both he and MHA as a whole over the past several months both hunter and trotter have addressed city counselors multiple times regarding their concerns about the state of low-income housing throughout the port city okay so and like i said we'll delve into this uh deeper with dale coming up in just a little bit but it's this the two things going on right you have this land sale going on from MHA to MAA how about some acronyms here uh but i didn't know that was the sale was it was it forced i don't know because you have the ceo saying there was a smear campaign directed against them and disparaging MHA as a whole now mobile housing authorities had issues in the past too right these have been discussed is not the first time this has been up so we will get us some more detail from dale coming up and speaking of landing up stories gosh i've held onto this story all week but i want to get time now to get to this and as i said yesterday this story actually is is near and dear to us because i think we were probably one of the people that were affected by this guy because i think the mailboxes one of the sets of mailboxes in questions or in question are the ones that are adjacent to the opulent and gilded FM talk when a 65 studio so the story is a federal judge sentences a man who stole mail with rat traps to 36 months it's from scott johnson of ritland yap said if federal judge is handed down a 36 month sentence for a mobile man indicted for cashing out thousands of fraudulent checks prosecutors say the suspect obtained the checks by phishing them out of mail drop off boxes with rat traps brilliant like the old Guinness had brilliant criminal but brilliant because you know you you open the little you know you go the blue can there the box the middle thing you open it up and there'd be is made so you can reach your hand down there right well here here's how this goes instead according to court records on july second senior u.s. district judge william steel announced that jonathan taylor randal 32 of mobile to three years in prison five years of supervised release and ordered him to repay thirty three thousand forty two dollars in restitution for defrauding multiple Gulf Coast banks and credit unions using checks and personal information prosecutors say we're stolen from regional u.s. postal service blue collection boxes says his sentencing follows a string of judgments handed down by local federal court over the past two years as usps and local law enforcement have joined forces to combat the epidemic of check fraud that it's escalated nationwide since the coven 19 pandemic male theft in the area became so prevalent during the twenty twenty three holiday season the u.s. postal service officials simply remove blue collection boxes from several mobile county municipalities the ones here i think were they didn't remove they wrapped them here i'm really don't even write they did something they made it like don't use this box the ones right here at the station and uh so you're wondering how this was going and there were more than just this guy there are several people they busted on this and the conversation i had off the record was somebody had told me that a lot of the people that were in this check theft were in the drug game before and maybe that enforcement got too tough or whatever you know like the whack-a-mole game or there's easier money to be made because the love it uh money in checks flying around around covid that these people moved into the business of stealing mail i was like that's not part of the story it's just something i was told off the record it said uh yeah last month u.s. district judge more sentenced eight people in a check washing and male theft scheme some cases have featured charges against former u.s. p.s. employees who were accused of aiding in the schemes that was the uh the key right given the key to the people to be able to open the mailbox but in this case that we're just talking about this uh this case with uh jonathan taylor randal uh from this week here's how it was here's how it was done the the rat trap it said all right beginning in february and march of 2023 agents with the u.s. postal service inspection sir uh u.s. p.s. inspection service began investigating complaints about individuals phishing male from blue u.s. coastal collection boxes and mobile and the specific gulf coast according to the court documents phishing includes using long flexible objects like a coat hanger to lower adhesive materials onto male collection boxes to pick up items i think what most of us read that headline earlier this week we're like like a real rat trap like they had to set the rat trap you know and then drop it down there and snap it on the male but no it said it's like the sticky traps agents were alerted to a phishing attempt on march 24th by a postmaster in eschatop of mississippi who found a rat trap stuck to a tub inside a local blue collection box postal investigators collected the rat trap and sent it to forensic analysis up in delis virginia now just think about this so they they collect this rat trap in eschatop of they sent it up to the uh the forensic analysis in uh delis virginia they identified five fingerprints on the rat the sticky trap belonging to randal this person they just sentenced said on uh march 28th and april fourth a kriton of 2023 a kriton post office employee reported more rat traps inside blue collection boxes according to prosecutors they were able to uh u s u s p i s was able to confirm randal's fingerprints on those traps as well so he's he's smart enough to come up with this thing using the sticky rat traps but not i guess to wear gloves when he did it um and they said agents surveilling randal's residents on may 1st of 2023 and it may 10th of 2023 they opened a garbage can left at the end of his driveway there they found bags full of what prosecutors say with stolen mail including bill payments and checks sent from the diyberville missippi area the next day may 11th agents executed federal search warrant they found hundreds of checks installed in mail and a fake illinois identity various checks had been altered and deposited and a notebook containing stolen identities and then goes on they we have confiscated all the stuff and but yes so did you have i think we were definitely one of them around here that had mail that didn't make it like you know from from the business account here didn't make it and then there were attempts you to use our checks to that were washed to go you know to go to a bank so i mean i think that i might be looking at my looking at the person that got us here i i'm guessing i'm guessing but yeah how about that they would lower a sticky rat trap into into the mailbox with like i guess you know this metal arm on it this coat hanger kind of thing and i guess it's a version of like the uh the crane game you remember the old crane game you lower it down try to win the prizes there in the you know you go down there with the the bucket and try to grab the buck knife but you end up not getting it but it was doing that with these sticky things and getting the checks out and then washing these checks because these checks are official right they had the seal and all that stuff on it but they washed the who's getting paid on it and and make it themselves so there you go i just thought that story was pretty interesting i think it probably affected a few people in our area so i thought it was worth rolling out all right coming right back more of midday mobile phone number text line 3430106 this is mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065 back to 1252 FM Talk 1065 mid-day mobile Thursday style and you know yeah and get to the text here but you see this story over on our facebook page facebook.com/FMTalk1065 the brilliant liana running things over there and this story like if you grew up when i grew up in the 80s you would have had to i didn't watch a ton of television but it would be hard to have avoided the show alf alien life form alf remember like yeah so his story here says this from WKRG Benji Gregory former child actor who played Brian Tanner on all four seasons of alf was found dead in his car last month his sister revealed on facebook now as you look at where you and this is sad story but as you look at where you rank in celebrity when the word of your passing comes from a poster sister made on facebook it's it's been spent some time since he had a career but how he died this is the okay so here's the post so uh so benji gregory's sister said it's with a heavy heart my family has suffered a lost way too early ben to benji gregory ben was a great son brother and uncle he was fun to be around made us laugh quite often still going through his things i find myself laughing at little videos or notes in between crying and it goes on to say in the facebook post that her brother benji gregory the guy that played brian tanner the kid that played brian tanner on alf died of vehicular heat stroke alongside his service dog and i don't know what the service dog was there i don't know what his issue that required a service dog so i do not know uh but he died of like did he leave him i i don't know i see that some of these stories they they don't give you enough information leaves me asking questions here we'll dig around like that's what happens to children and pets and that are not ambulatory right so may but he vehicular heat stroke i guess you left in the car i uh the maricopa county medical examiner's office says that his cause of death is still pending but the sister said vehicular heat stroke and guy was in it list here uh that gregory was uh not only an alf but he was in the a team i don't remember you talk about let's go through the list of eighties shows here he was an a team tj hooker punkie brooster and alf if you had to do the mount rushmore eighties family shows or whatever you just listed well maybe not eight i thought eighteen was pretty cool eighteen tj hooker punkie brooster and alf yeah that would be the mount rush more of eighties tv shows so there it is i i don't know you know i don't know where the uh yeah i tell you i'm a day this is of interest and lana maybe knows more about the vehicular heat stroke for a grow-up seems seems quite odd all right um paul says no one says mobile better than shawn or he could he like paul likes to call me shane uh okay well it's my town man it's my city um let's see yeah so uh maxima said did you see some vending machines in t-town and paul city in al salammo pretty neat yeah if you saw the stories about a maxima said came out though they were just used to say like the one from cbs 42 i read yesterday was like well the emos for sale by the way x number people killed over the independence day weekend try to link the two together i don't know i mean it says the system works this way you go up and has like a facial id and recognition to scan if you you know who you are i have to dig into that more uh because i anything that's some kind of system like that i imagine you can get around it um but it is interesting uh maxima selson said yesterday that they're selling the emo there and when i go if i ever do buy emo probably don't but you go to some the box stores to buy a munition when they they carry the ammunition up to the front with you like they're carrying uh some nitro glyceride or something like that you know it's it's okay it's not going to get you it's just it's in the box it's fine but like i'm here to bring the emo up it's like okay i carry it myself i'm good i'm good uh adam says the uh main post office downtown is the one we use we had numerous checks that were made out to us that were stolen and cashed i don't know what the total was but it was tens of thousands of dollars we saw some of the checks afterwards that the alterations were so professionally done that you could not tell it wasn't authentic the blue boxes are gone now we don't know what the outcome was but i know that the fbi was involved and it hadn't happened again adam i know that feds were involved as well and uh kind of what happened out here by our place uh but they were doing yeah i think i don't know i don't think we ever got to see and i can check with uh tina in the back she could probably tell me but i never did see the checks but we had stuff go missing and we had the flip side too you know when when mail started getting so funky we had people sending invoices to us here at the station and they sent them and like we didn't receive them a month and months went by and then all of a sudden we would get a flood of mail stuff that had been sent six months before you would get in a they would walk in here with a box of mail and some of the stuff was from two days before normal bail time to get to you and some stuff was like four months earlier sent it was a weird time and then having the flip side of having checks going out getting pilford out of those boxes but they've made some arrests here but the interesting thing too that people told me people will just make it people had told me is that the a lot of the people they were busting in these mail mail scams that check you know getting these checks out had records for selling drugs in the past and they just kind of shifted to a new business maybe there's more lucrative right dale lee from land yep joins us lost to talk about with him when we come back [Music]