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Jeff Poor Show - Thursday 7-11-24
[MUSIC PLAYING] From Buck's Pocket to the Shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's "The Jeff Poor Show." I don't think I've done it this way. [MUSIC PLAYING] Good morning. Welcome to "The Jeff Poor Show." And if we talk about '06, '05. Thank you for joining us on this Thursday morning, and the week is flown by. Text line, it would be a touch with the show. All you do is text me 251-34301-06, and we will respond to whatever it is that is on your mind. Come up on the program today. Here are about 30 minutes. Former Congressman Parker Griffith, the official Democrat response of "The Jeff Poor Show." You'll want to listen in on that, for sure. We haven't talked to him since really the Biden-- what do we call this? The Biden Collapse? It is a collapse. And they are Democrats. Well, I have a theory on this, and each stick around once we get through the obligatory introductory phase of the program. I'll kind of give you some ideas here about what might be going on. Also on the program today, April Marie Fogel-- now Thursday regular-- and looking forward to this. State Senator Jack Williams in that 11 o'clock hour. So please make sure that you stick around for that. And the news is just-- this is what the news is all about right now. Joe Biden and his mental fitness has cognitive decline. So let's sort of get into this. Yes, there's no getting around it. There's a problem there, Biden world. They have some issues. They can't get past this. There's this no other-- they got to figure this out on the Democrat side. Well, let's think about this. Even before the debate two weeks ago, it's been two weeks. They still haven't put this to bed. And I know all the theories out there about George Clooney acted as a proxy for Obama. But these people knew, George Clooney was like one of the organizers of that fundraiser for Joe Biden last month. They knew there were some issues here. So it's not that hard to figure this out. But what about this possibility, guys? They're heading toward an election loss in November regardless of Biden's health. I mean, why don't we think of that? Let's just say Biden had an OK debate two weeks ago. Does-- do we think he's the front runner? What does the CYA sort of move here? Well, this is what these people do. In 2016, when they lost with all the money that was put toward Hillary Clinton, what did they blame? They blame Vladimir Putin in Russia. There's always someone else's fault. It's never Democratic Party policies. It's never this ideological leftist view of how to run a country. It's never any of that. It's not just promotion of an LGBTQ lifestyle in everybody's living room. It's never anything like that. There's always some other reason, because they-- they say they got the best people, the smartest people. They get money from Silicon Valley, from Wall Street, from Hollywood, from K Street, all of the smart people, all of the smart people, go to work for Democrats, and all of the big money, fudge Democrats. And then when things don't go their way, well, mustn't up in us, can't blame us, can't blame our policies. But now you're on this collision course with reality, and you know it's coming, and you know the country's going to go a certain way. The polls-- I've been harping on this for a long time. You get beat by a guy that you should be beating handily. Whatever we think of it, it doesn't matter. 34-counted conviction and two impeachments, and he is leading in the polls with Donald Trump. On paper, Joe Biden should be man-handling him. But there's something wrong there. Maybe it's Biden to candidate. But does anybody contemplate it? Maybe it's just this woke leftist policy that people are like, no. Would they ever say, you know what? We need to reject this. 2513430106 is the text line. I mean, don't you think of that? Because it's never-- well, maybe we-- maybe this dumping money into the economy in 2021. Wasn't such a good idea. Maybe this idea that we need to bolster Ukraine isn't really where the country is at. Maybe this idea, this sort of Black border policy, that's going to really undermine the American culture in people's neighborhoods. Is it a good idea either? But we don't talk about that, do they? It's a new wouldn't be that. It's just we had a bad presidential candidate. I mean, bottom line is it's all about having power. But this left-winged approach, I think, warrants criticism because it doesn't work. Well, it doesn't always work. If you have a financial collapse and people are losing their homes and didn't maybe that opens the door to caging in economics, but I don't think typically it works in America. It's just not a blueprint for success in this country, politically. Rare circumstances. The Great Depression, you know, and the New Deal. Times like that. That's when those sort of policies-- maybe the American people are open to. But right now-- no, so I need Joe Biden sticking around. But the window continues to narrow. Like before I thought if they were going to do it, they would have done it over the 4th of July break. They didn't pull the trigger. They can't just force him out. He looks like he's willing to fight it. And he fights and it goes to court. I mean, it's just going to be a mess for Democrats. But this is-- I mean, this is what it's all about right now. They're going to try some endarounds. Bronzik 2025 or whatever. But no one's buying that. Is that-- you couldn't get him with the-- can't you record up in New York City, but you've got to get him with this heritage foundation policy paper. This is where you get him. 2513430106 is the text. But what if this is what is really going on here? We know we're headed toward a loss. And no one wants to take-- the one wants to fall in the sword to take the blame here. We'll just blame Biden and his Parkinson's or whatever it may be. We'll just blame that. It's not us. It's him. You know? It's not what we do. It's him. You American people are too dumb to go out and vote on a policy basis. You're just voting on a personality on a person. That's all you're doing. You don't know any better. You don't know what's good or bad for you. Trust us, our policies are the best. And I'm telling you, it seems like that to me. Is there not-- they're not talking about the border. The border was like, whenever you talk to-- especially you talk to a Republican politician in Alabama, like Jerry Carl, who we've had on dozens and dozens of times. Less. And then, you know, like, the throwaway question for me is always like, what are you hearing from constituents? What's their biggest concern right now? Barry Moore, Jerry Carl, Carolee Dobson. All these Republicans that were running a competitive Republican prime-- it's the border, Jeff. Every now and then, it's inflation. It's the American economy. And then, the polling was showing neck and neck, Joe Biden, Donald Trump. Now, look, I think a lot of this is baked in. But the left-wing media collapse here is really, like, abandoning Joe Biden. It's kind of a realization, I think, that they're head toward a loss in November. And rather than say it's anything that Joe Biden did, it's just Joe Biden himself. Because they like what he's done. Like, the Democratic parties, in this, like, the reality is going to sit in at some point. They can't continue to go left and left and left and left and left. It won't look like America anymore. I mean, we've had these-- we've had these kind of populist moments in American history that were left of center, but not a complete departure from, like, traditional values, the idea that people, you know, you work for a living, provide for your family. And instead, you just get everybody's guaranteed universal income and ideas like that. So I think what-- it's a departure from that. I think the American-- I think the Democrat establishment, some of them-- some of them really believe a lot of this about Joe Biden, and this is what's going to cause it. But this is a-- this is an exit strategy. This is a way to say it's not us, it's him. It's not the smartest people in the room. It's not all the people who raise money, et cetera, and so on and so forth. And it's kind of fascinating to watch like the George Clooney thing, and there's all kinds of theories about that. Maybe it was Obama telling George Clooney to go say, hey, you need to go and that op-ed, he put pen yesterday. I was published yesterday. Here's the other thing you need to know about Obama and the Biden relationship. All the people who think that Obama is running the country, I think that Joe Biden hasn't made his exit. And we're pretty sure that Obama, if he had his way, would have Joe Biden rally out. All right, let's take it on to have the muscle show. What the Obama's are afraid of is Joe Biden telling him, though, it's showing that Obama has no sway with Biden. There's always been a kind of an interesting dynamic between the two of them. 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6, and bring it back. This is the Jup4 show on the flip talk, 106, 5, 3, 4, 3, 4, sitting here at the floor and fan the back. Open up the pickle can. Good time. Cun wild falling and out of love in the same night. Case say, I got a whole lot of cares. In the red, nigga, maybe years. Getting crazy. I'm getting hammered, sitting right here at the floor and fan. Welcome back to the Jup4 show. Let me talk, 106, 5 days are staying with us on this Thursday morning, text line, 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. Coming up in the next segment, we'll talk to Parker Griffith, the official Democrat response of the Jup4 show. Let's see. Blah, blah, blah, blah. We got some text here. Get a lot of text here. Let's see. Third nigger, what do you-- what you do by closed doors is your business and how you have sexual relationships is your choice. What God says in the Bible, they are not going to shove it down my throat. Sean Assman is he having his big boy press conference. That's 5.30 today or 6.30 Eastern time but 5.30 our time. Third nigger, back to what you said. I mean, I think that's the problem, though, that it's not really-- the country's not there yet. They're not where the progressive left is. They've drifted in that direction the country has. There's no question about it. I mean, culture 100 years ago versus culture now is certainly more progressive in that direction. No question about it. We're much more accepting. I mean, things have changed in the last 100 years. And that continues to be the trend. But I just don't think they're quite where the modern progressive secular left is. Gene, Jet GOP is no longer profile. All I took was Trump to destroy 40 years of principles. What happened to this pro-life principles at Tuberville is blowing. It has a problem. I don't know if it matters because it's the same thing. Like, are we going to watch-- it's the same thing going on with the Israel-Palestine question in these anti-Israel protesters out there. Are they going to go vote for Trump? No. Well, these pro-lifers, Gene, are they going to go out and vote for Biden? No. Because the Republican platform isn't as solid as it needs to be on the pro-life subject. I just-- I hate that the GOP has conceded this. I really hate it. I hate how they have abandoned the social conservatives. It don't make the case anymore. We don't talk about it. Yeah, you can make the case of reproductive rights, and they do that all day long. What about the other side of the equation? It used to be like the '80s and '90s, like really good philosophical arguments of why you don't abort a fetus. What are we talking about that? They're afraid to talk about it. And they've let the left establish the narrative. So I know you're attacking us for not being principled, but I don't think the platform matters as far as election goes, but you're probably right here. Under your texture, what if Biden still wins because of all the illegal immigrants running into polls? It would be obvious voter fraud with everything that has happened with him lately. I don't think illegal immigrants want to vote. And let me pose this to you like this on named Dexter. Suppose you are the legal immigrant. You're just happy to be in America. You're happy to have a job. You're happy to have your family here. You want to fly under the radar. Right? Well, therefore, are you going to go and show up at a polling place where you're with your address and have to show an ID and all of that in some states? I don't think so. I don't think illegal immigrants. I think the illegal immigration play is a long-term political play, not a short term. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Text us, we'll be right back. This is FM Talk, 1-0-6-5. All right, may simply be a single drop of rain. What I will-- [MUSIC PLAYING] Once was a thought inside my head. All right, let's jump for a show on FM Talk, 1-0-6-5. Thanks for staying with us on this Thursday morning. We do appreciate you listening. Text line, 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Keep it coming, guys. I appreciate the feedback. Coming up still today on the program, Alabama today's April Murray Fogold, about an hour. And then we'll hear from Jack Williams, state senator from Wilmer. We'll be with us running for our commissioner. First time he's been on the program, looking forward to that. But joining us now on the line, the official Democrat response on the Jeff Port show. And we're out to Oxford, Mississippi, I'm told. But we're glad to have him. Former Congress from Parkford Griffith. Congressman, good morning, are you? Good morning, Jeff. We're doing well. We're on the way over to wild rose kennels, pick up an English lab puppy. And looking forward to that. And of course, we couldn't be in a better environment for politics than we're in right now. I mean, it is incredible. This kind of history that America is making. We've got two nursing home people running for president. I think Biden is going to have to go. He's going to have to go. How do you even do that, though? I mean, what is the extra strategy? Because he won all those primaries. Well, I think the extra strategy is that Biden is-- unless he has the same ego problem that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had, who refused to resign from the Supreme Court to allow Obama to appoint a judge, if he's got this ego problem and he's going to stay into the bitter end, he's going to lose major Democratic donors. When George Clooney comes out and says, I love you, Joe, and you're a wonderful man, but you've got to go home. And he gave him the best fundraiser he's ever had, or anybody's ever had. I mean, it was a huge deal. Clooney basically said to him, let's go home. Now, haven't been in politics, I can say that he would not have said that, and he not had a meeting with Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, et cetera. They all know Clooney was going to come out and say that. I'm sure he ran it by each one of them. Plus some major Democratic donors who said, yes, he is not proving himself that this was just an isolated episode at the debate. He's deteriorating. And when you look at the situation in four years, every year he's going to decline a little bit more. There's some legitimate evidence because of his very, very stiff gait. His horseness is worse. I'm not talking about his stuttering. I'm really talking about his larynx and his muscular situation. I mean, he could have early Parkinsonism. And you don't have to have a tremor to have Parkinsonism. There are other things. Stiffness, this horse change, et cetera. So he's got something going on. And I just don't see the Democrats, and I'm talking about the big check riders. I don't see them letting them stay in. I think you're asking the right question. How do you gracefully bow out? And the only thing I can figure is he goes to the microphone. I guess he's got a couple of things you could do. He could resign now, and Harris becomes the president, then she becomes an incumbent only for four months or whatever. But he could say, I'm going to step aside, and I'll let the convention decide. Or he may annoy it somewhat. I mean, he may have somebody that the big money thinks is better than Kamala. Or Kamala may say, I'll be happy to be the vice president. And Gavin Newsom can be the nominee. Or there may be a wild card out there. I don't know. But I just don't think Biden can stay in unless his damn ego just won't let him do the right thing. Well, I think-- I mean, you're this close. You always want to be president, I guess. The circle around him of people-- Clayne, his wife, his kid-- there seem to be the ones driving this train of him staying in, I think. I think you're right. But I think that the incentive for spending millions of dollars and taking 15% off the top to do your TV and your production is a huge incentive to encourage him to stay in. Not to mention his chief of staff and all of that. All of those people are making $100,000 plus. And so, of course, they're all saying, oh, yeah, you can do it. It's the same thing to kill the others. It's the same thing to kill Michael Jackson, sure. But hopefully, he'll do the right thing. But I don't know. He's very, very hard-headed in a sense. Anybody that can say into an open mic, that's a big F&D deal. Obama signed the Affordable Care-- How about this, Congressman? You knew there were problems there. I mean, we talked about-- you and I talked about this. And it took a disastrous debate performance in late June. We never had a head-to-head presidential debate at that time of the campaign. It took that to get all of these other Democrats to say, it's time for you to go. This shouldn't be the conversation a year ago if you really wanted to do something and make a change. I think the conversation was happening. But there wasn't that-- and Biden's the one that called for the debate. There is no legitimate reason. There's no good reason for him to have performed that way at that debate, the way he performed, if there was not some neurological problem. I mean, there's no excuse for that. They said, well, he was over-prepared. What? B.S. He went over-prepared. I mean, he's professionally been in politics since he was 28. But Congressman, I mean, they hit him in the basement all during the 2020 cycle. I mean, this was a decline that has been underway for the last three and a half, four years. And I think everybody had to do it. And this should have been a conversation that was had longer ago. But you'll go back to 2020, and I think James Clyburn and those guys-- they didn't think Peter Buttigieg could win. And he was cruising through the primaries. Then all of a sudden, he bows out to make way for Biden. I mean, this is what they got. You know, this is a conversation that had longer ago. And I think to hear people, especially George Clooney, who threw him a fundraiser like three, four weeks ago in Hollywood, just to come out now, rings a little hollow. Well, it does. I think the thing that kept them off balance, or kept them pulling the trigger, really being open in front of a microphone was Kamala Harris. She's weak, and she's not somebody that anyone sees as president. And I think that was always in the back of the big boys' minds. Well, if you resigns, or whatever, and Kamala gets the nomination, this may be a very interesting Democratic convention. Because it's-- I mean, some of the people who were his most loyal supporters are gone. And Clooney was huge. I mean, how many millions did he raise? They say it was the most successful fundraising ever for any candidate. And when he came out with that, I love you, Joe. You're a great guy. You've done some wonderful things. But it's time to step aside, move on. I think that's a shot in the head there. Right. I don't see a recovery, you know, anyway. But it's great politics. I think-- I know your audience, your listeners, love politics. I love politics. And I think this really, really demonstrates how strong America is with its-- I mean, look at the bozos we've got on the Supreme Court. I mean, if we can survive those guys, we can survive anything. And then we've got a legislature, a senate, and a house. The public has less than a 20% confidence in the legislative branch. And we're still the strongest country in the world. Best military, most innovative. It's just amazing how the core of America-- I mean-- Well, how about this, though? If the Democrats go to war with one another-- and I don't know, like-- I don't think Biden has like a rabid loyal group of people out there who are going to go to the mattress before him, right? But to me, this turmoil just is going to just help Donald Trump. I mean, it was already kind of a 50/50 proposition going into that debate. And I was kind of leaning toward Trump because the polls are showing Nick and Nick. But Congressmen, if it's that close in the popular vote, it's an electoral college blowout for Trump just based on our system. But you take that, and now, even in some of the swing states, Biden's going away, but this ends up being a long, protracted sort of anti-party skirmish over what to do with Joe Biden. I mean, Trump's not stepping on this at all. He hasn't even announced his vice presidential pick yet. I mean, with the mention next week. I mean, this is-- I think I'm voting some of the confidence in the Democratic Party. Yes. But I think Trump is playing this brilliantly. The old saying, if your opponent is destroying themselves, don't interfere. And so he was one of the best lines of the debate was when Trump turned to Biden and said, I don't understand what he said. And I don't think he understands what he said either. That was a great shot. Now, yes, they replace. But I think it still will be tight. Because if they replace Biden with the right person, the blacks, the Democrats, the black Democrats will get excited. This abortion issue is not going to go away. And there's that independent group out there that says, if this person they replace Biden with is a normal, reasonable American, restricted death of all the drama that Trump brings to anything. And it could be a nail butter if they replace Biden with the right person. Last question, though, and we'll get you out of here on this. For the last four years, Democrats have been screeching the word democracy. And I don't think they understand our system of government. But democracy has become like a staple of their vernacular here, democracy. Anyway, so the point being is this. If you take the vote of the people, the vote of the Democrat voters, if you take the results away from them and replace it with somebody else that they did not vote for, does-- do they lose the moral high ground on this whole discussion about the vote of the people, the will of the people, if they replace the person that they voted on? Jeff, I'm not sure they do. You got to remember, the Democrats' ace, if it's played, is Trump. Trump is said he wants to be a dictator. He's saying-- not only do I want to be a dictator, but I'm going to come after those some bitches of those loops. I'm going to come after those folks that made my life visible. And so there's that environment out there that Trump has created that doesn't sit well with independence. It doesn't sit well with women. It doesn't sit well with this abortion ruling. You couple that with a couple of guys on the Supreme Court who were born line radical rights. And you could make a case for whoever replaces Biden could have a shot. You know they didn't vote for him in the program. We'll see. Hey, Congressman, we've got to get out of here a little long. But hey, safe travels, and thanks for making time for us. Appreciate it, Jeff. Good. Thank you. Congressman, before Congressman Parker Griffin there, we're right back. This is a Jeff Moore show. What if we talk about '06, '05? He said something just later. Don't you see I'm a dime or so? I should have died out a long time before. Happy to be on a dime or so. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show. That's a talk with '06, '05. Text me 251340106. You ought to be in touch with the program, April refugle. Coming up in the next hour. Oh, you get some more text here. See what is on your-- wow, we got a lot of text here. Uh, I need textured. It could be Ricky. But I don't know, baseball, spelling. Putin and Ukraine, Hitler, and Poland, Napoleon, and Caesar, they are all dictators, and they must be stopped. Tim, Jeff, I may be way off base, but I think it's pretty ridiculous for someone to try to vote without an ID. I've been knowing the people where I vote for years. I was at some of their weddings, and they talked to me for a few minutes and asked about my family and my parents how they're doing. And then when we finished, they asked me for my ID. Yeah, because the system we have, the voting system we have, guys, you scan the ID, right? I don't know. It's like, it seems a little ridiculous to make this your heel to die on when it comes to voting. The left does that? Why? Why is it? Why is it that hard to get an ID? Now, what was it? Merrill, who used to go to people's houses and make an ID card, a state-issued ID card that they could use to go vote if they needed one? But those circumstances were so, so, like, few and far between. To just start that many people out there who don't have an ID. Why is the left, and so, like, you start, like, looking at it. Of course, people on the other side of the spectrum are suspicious of the motivations of the left. Why are they so adamant that you don't need an ID to vote? I've never understood this. You want to fight for, like, Medicaid expansion? You want to fight for, like, college tuition forgiveness? Heck, you want to fight for open borders or whatever it is, the left-wing hobby horse, drag queen story hour in every school in America. But the voter ID one just makes you think there's something here going on that's not on the up and up. And there's something untoward going on here. How can you not think that? When you look at what-- what are they for? Why are they doing it? Why are they doing it this way? Why is this the election issue? And so, like, they're making it a political issue. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's very confusing to me, like, you don't want to show your ID when you go vote. [MUSIC PLAYING] But, I mean, is this a key component to voter turnout? I don't know. Somebody give me a theory on this. We'll be right back to "Sits the Jet Force Show" at Fintog 1.065. [MUSIC PLAYING] From "Bucks Pocket" to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's "The Jet Force Show." I don't think I ain't done it this way. [MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome back to "The Jet Force Show" at Fintog 1.065. Thanks for staying with us on this Thursday morning 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. It's how you get in touch. But to show, if you so choose, coming up on the program here in about half hour April, where a refocal from Alabama today, our Thursday regular will be with us. Share with us, stay tuned for that also in the program. Jack Williams, state senator from Wilbur. Excited to have him on. He's making time for us. He's running for our commissioners. So stay tuned for that. Still, we're going to wait through these text messages. But real quick, kind of a recap. And this is my hot take. Bite is a bad candidate. No question about it. We knew this all along, though. We knew this in 2020. We knew that he wasn't 100%. They didn't really have a competitive-- it was competitive up until South Carolina in 2020. In 2024, it wasn't competitive at all. We knew this as well. And I think establishment DC knew all of Biden's shortcomings, all of his health problems. They knew it, they knew it, and they are fading this outrage, fading this concern right now, that, oh my gosh, we have a problem here. And I just don't buy it. We knew this. We knew this from the get-go. And I think they got a little overconfident that beating Trump would be easy. Felony convictions, all of this law fair. Two impeachment, January 6. Go up and down the line here with all these different things that they had to throw it to, but none of it stuck. None of it was working. The Grand Master Plan, the grand scheme, the grand conspiracy, not working. And now they have to figure out, well, what are we going to do? I think it's CYA. The smartest people, all the billions of dollars pumped in to maintaining the status quo and maintaining a hold on power, they were wrong. And now they are going after Biden. They're going to blame it on Biden, not the game plan, but what I think is another reason that they are losing so much is the policies. 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6, we'll be in touch with the show. That's how you do so. But all these smart people that were like-- and this goes back to the Hillary 2016 election. There's no way we could lose to Donald Trump. No way. He's orange. We're awesome. He's going down. And they go out to these wealthy tech millionaires and these Hollywood moguls and these Wall Street titans and they raise a bunch of money. And they tell them, look, you're going to want to bet on our horse. Our horse is going to win. We're going to be in the White House and you're going to need us. You're going to want to kiss our ring right now, because we'll remember who kissed our ring in two or three years when that issue comes before the SEC, RDF, SEC, or whatever it may be. When the DOJ looks at monopolies, you're going to want to be on our side. You're going to want to play a role in this campaign. Yeah. OK, we're not-- sign me up. How much do you need? Where do I send a check? And then here we are on July 11, 2024. Hey, you guys remember when you said you had this thing won? There was no way in that we needed to offer some kind of-- there had to be some kind of offering to you guys right now. Well, what's going to happen here if you get beat? But they knew. They knew he had to be in bad shape, right? So the smart people, they're always looking for a scapegoat. They can't blame Russia this time, I guess. Russia hacking our election, whatever the hell that meant. They're not able to do that. What are we going to blame this? We'll just blame Biden to his health. These people are pretty-- they lack any kind of scruples. Let's go through some text here. My name's Dexter. They'll show up in a poll as illegal immigrants are just ballots generated and Democrats turned in. I'm surprised you didn't know this, Jeff. The illegals are being registered to vote. Files will be counted fabricated for the Dems. I don't know about that. Why do you need an illegal immigrant coming across the border and registered him to vote if you're just going to turn into ballot? Why not make up the person? I mean, either one is fraud. Why not I just say, well-- so that doesn't compute a name texture. If you think that, that they're bringing in these illegal immigrants, and they're going to sign a voter registration to them, and they're just going to vote for them, well, I go to the trouble of bringing them across the border. Why not just make up their existence? We don't know if they're here or not. I'm not-- that doesn't really work for me. Mr. Plot, primarily from my area. Biden was coordinated by the DNC. They will find a way to get around election laws, ballot requirements, and whatever obstacle presents itself. The interest to find a means or no principles. Joe thinks he's doing a great job. Come on, man. They're tied in the polls for God's sake. Jill says, I'm fine, and she's a doctor. Y'all remember we'll be Goldberg wanting Dr. Jill to be the Surgeon General. Well, right, that hurt. George Cody's no longer supporting Joe. When did that happen? I said he's still supporting him, but yesterday in the New York Times, I'll call for him to step aside. It just seems very strange to me. Oh, three weeks ago or two weeks ago, you were hosting a fundraiser for this man. But now it's time for him to go. So yeah, and the rumor is that he had to go talk to Obama and he's acting as a proxy for Obama. I don't know about that. Joe, tell Parker that Biden's alias is the big guy, not the big boy. Rock and roll doctor. Uh, why didn't it give us a lot of question by his abilities, whether mental or physical or political? Is it intentional or are our dim leaders this inept? Trump has never said he wanted to be a dictator. Never. WTF? Is this Bruebaker smoking on his way back to pick up a $2,500 dog? I mean, Griffith. No, I think it's this $2,500 dog, but it's just talking points. And you just roll with it. I truck said he would be a dictator on the first day or something like that. Oh, my goodness, gosh, guys. Oh, no, he's going to be a dictator. It's that Axiom, um, the media take Trump literally, but not seriously. And Trump supporters take Trump seriously, not literally. And I don't even think the media really taking literally. They just are using it as a attack. That's the problem. This is what these guys do. We know it. And it's not working. It's not working, guys. They throw everything at him. What do they have left to throw at Donald Trump? This is his third presidential election cycle. We have been through everything. Russia collusion, Billy Bush, Manafort, Bannon. I don't know, January 6. What do you have left, guys? Because if you haven't had that kill shot yet, I don't think you got it in you. Paul, he comes across as reasonable until the dictator of Supreme Court opinions. Yeah. And I think Parker is a very morning Joe, Democrat, establishment, conventional wisdom, being there. But that's why you have a guy like that on. Let's see what else is going to-- I mean, I guess we could just watch the media and get that. But third day girl, what about the hard left Supreme Court three Democrats put on the court? Parker, last about the Constitution, is our rights. Why do you think the funny thing is, like, the one justice who can't tell you what a woman is? Wise, morning, Jeff, why don't push back? O'Griff has claimed about wanting to be a dictator, what he said, only to reverse by an energy policy. Also, Trump said that the law fair has to stop, that he was not going to seek revenge on the Democrats or Looney Tunes, the Supreme Court justices appointed. That can't even define what a woman is. Hey, he stole my line there. My-- don't push back O'Griff is because it's his time. Look, that's their talking, boy. I-- I-- you know what I think. I know what you think. He comes on the show because I want to know what he thinks. And I think he really believes the Trump dictator thing. He-- maybe he's aware that the comment was taking out of context, I don't know, but that's what they believe. [ Silence ] So, anyway, I mean, that's what guests do. They got to-- any guests that comes on my show, except for Dale Jackson, I just let them go. If you're going to spend time coming on this work of art here, known as the Jeff Porsche, then I'll respect your opportunity to speak. I mean, Dexter, look at what the Federal Society and Heritage Foundation threw their policies have done to the Supreme Court, a legislative agenda, or Republicans' abortion. So, security, it's a case from the last two decades. That's why normal voters are running away from a lot of Republicans. I don't think so. I mean, it's no coincidence, a name textured that the court is what it is. It took-- I mean, it took Republicans winning elections, winning presidential elections for the courts to be that way. I don't think voters are running away from Republicans, not this moment in time. Maybe-- maybe you're looking at some different polling, but what was the last time that a Republican has been polling this one on a presidential head-to-head? Maybe Bush in 2004? It is, like, 20 years ago? Was it McCain? No. Was it Romney? No. Was it even Trump, second time? I mean, the first time around, no. They all had him polling way down. We'll see what the results bear out, but voters aren't running away from Republicans right now, not with the-- not with the circumstances surrounding the modern Democratic Party. I disagree with that premise. We'll be right back. This is F.F. Dark, 1.0. 6.5. [MUSIC PLAYING] People said it was useless, and people long to prove. [MUSIC PLAYING] Those Curtis slovas, a finest pick up to ever play the blues. I saw the light. I saw the light. No more darkness. No more night. Now I'm so happy, no sorrow inside. Pray in the Lord, and I saw the light. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show. We'll have to talk about those 6.5. Stay with us on this Thursday morning. 2513430106 would be a touch with the show. All you've got to do is text me. We'll get through some of these. We're going to get through these text. Let's see. Jeff, I disagree with you. He goes with vote because Trump has already said he's going to deport them as he should. I don't think so. That doesn't mean they have motivation to vote because he said he's going to deport them. The question, Leo, is this OK? They're afraid of being deported as it is. They don't anticipate, OK, if I just go ahead and vote, I'm going to get deported anyway. They think they could beat the system. They came here illegally in the first place, Leo. They think they could beat the system. Leilow, earn their income, live in whatever situation, circumstances. There's probably deplorable, but it's much better than what they had where they came from. So no, I don't think that they vote. I think you guys, there's no evidence that there's a big block of illegal immigrant voters. If Democrats wanted voters, I'm talking about just straight right over the river Rio Grande, sign up to vote. They're going to straight to the polling location. I think this is a long-term generational play. The more of these immigrants that come here from other countries, and they have kids, and they become dreamers, it's a long-term play here. It's the California play. Chris and Mobile, what does the title prosecute, Jill Biden, for elder abuse? James, the official troll, the jet-poor show. The only thing Trump has done brilliantly is counting the entire Republican base, making fools out of cult members is what we have. And then James, come up with a new line. I mean, yes, there's a Trump cold out there. But the reason Trump's going to be your next president isn't because of the Trump cold. It's because Biden sucks, OK? I mean, that's what you need to come to grips with. He sucks more than you say than Trump does. That's the deal. So whatever you want to make fun of a group of people who looked at Trump as a guy that speaks to them and you want to mock them for that, so be it. But it doesn't really move the needle. James also says, I'm glad that you can see from your callers exactly why Trump is able to con them. I'm not exactly sure what that means. Finally, I told you we'd make it through these. Mr. Plot, come on, don't be mean to Justice Jackson. She voted for Trump's immunity. She's not totally out to lunch. I don't know, man, I think she's out to lunch on a lot of issues. I just saw it. My or is such a well, it can seem like she's qualified. The other two, I don't think are qualified. Maybe maybe Jackson is qualified. But this left wing, like, view of the of the Constitution and this open to the interpretation of whatever the times permit is weird. Just change the Constitution. Well, Jeff, that's hard to do. You don't like the second amendment, change it. You think God ownership ought to be a privilege on the right? Change it. You don't like the due process they give to Donald Trump or they like the way we approach immunity by president. Change the Constitution. The Congress thinks it could change the laws. It's kind of funny. But you can't-- there is always been an executive immunity. Well, we could give it to Congress, but we can't give it to the president. Well, when the president goes out and shoots somebody, you can't try it for murder. Well, if somebody from Congress comes out and shoots somebody, you can't try him for murder. But members of Congress have immunity. Well, it's different. You can trust the members of Congress. You can't trust Big Bad Orange, man. I'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore Show it up and talk about those 6'5". # Time and love to count when the dealing's done # # Every camera knows that the secret... # # 'Cause it's midnight in my gun # # Just hear that whiff of wind # # See the stars out of the purple sky # Welcome back to the Jeff Moore Show it up and talk about those 6'5". Thanks for staying with us on this Thursday morning. Thanks to me, 2513430106. I just, James, you're getting a lot of feedback, James. But you're putting yourself out there like that. People are going to respond. Anyway, enough of that. Joining us now, she is the publisher of Alabama today and regular on this program, April, Marie Fogel. April, Marie, good morning. How are you? Good morning. I'm doing well, getting ready to head to Huntsville. I suppose I'm talking to you a little later. Yeah, so you get to do the Dale Jackson TV, Travis Gansa. I'm debuting a fresh haircut for those who want to see the short hair. April, Marie, that's happening. Let's just dig in. Lave, local or something. It really goes short. Hey, I see another drag queen infiltrated our schools trying to infiltrate our kids. It's weird. Yeah, so drag queen story hour. I don't understand drag queen story hour. I never will. No one's ever been able to explain it to me why we have drag queen story hour. But we have another drag queen story hour. It was supposed to be at the new or what used to be. Now it's oyster city brewing company on government. And now it has moved to books a million. I assume down the airport boulevard. But they never do like drag queen story time in a nursing home or drag queen story time at a hospital or something. It's always for little kids. Why is that? I think the answer is obvious, right? And there's no kid, by the way, who wakes up in the morning is like, "Mommy, mommy, you know what I want to do today? I want to go see a dude wearing highly inappropriate clothes with weight too much makeup." No, it's the dudes waking up going. I can't wait to get out there and jiggle some stuff in front of these kids, which is creepy as frick. It is. And I don't understand it. I don't know why. I don't know why they insist on this. I think the simplest explanation is the explanation, which is. This has nothing to do with the children and everything to do with the adults in the room. Mainly the entertainer and then these parents who just think they're so cute being so enlightened that they're bringing their kids to this garbage. And let's just be clear. That's what it is. It's absolutely inappropriate for children garbage. And, you know, the history of drag is it was a way for a sexual signal. It was a way to say, "Hey, you know, this is my preferences." And doing that for children is wrong. And I'm shocked that you said it's been moved to books a million because corporations should not be allowing that. When I take my kids to a bookstore or a library, I don't want that there. Well, I don't know what's going on with books a million these days, but yeah. It is. What do you rename and rebrand? Aren't they just BAM now? Well, you still drive by and it still says books a million, doesn't it? I don't know. I think all they're branding now is BAM, which still BAM here have a half dressed man jiggling his stuff and telling your kids, "This is what's normal now." Yeah, I find that all kind of. You know, I try to give people the benefit of that. Maybe I shouldn't. Not those people. No. Worst case scenario, they're grooming them for sexual exploitation. But best case scenario, they're just trying to normalize a behavior that I think mainstream Alabama culture at least rejects. Well, here's the thing is no one cares. I mean literally no one has cared for decades while this has gone on at gay bars and at theaters and at different places. The only time most of us, if not everyone has heard about it with the exception of those deviants. The only time we object is when you're talking about putting it in front of children. And so yeah, go live your life. So you do you boo as the kids would say, but don't do it in front of the kids. They just, but it's, you know, it was in a back butler versus, yeah, it's totally, it's totally grooming. Look, even if it isn't, let's just play it safe and not do that, right? Right. And you look at these entertainers and you think you look at what that, you know, usually they have posted on their social media what they're doing. If not in these performances and other performances, what they say, like the podcast that 18, 19 and lives of TikTok posted of one drag queen. You look at these and you go, these are not. You can't convince me that they're one or two hours with children. Is the clean cure part of their life? No, this is an extension of that deviancy and they're thrilled. We're a lot. We're trying to allow it. I don't think people, I don't think these these these drag queens number one, but the people who back there, whatever it is that you want to call their behavior. Really understand the connection between parents and their children. And like why they would be trouble. Why if even if there's just a 2% chance, why risk it, right? Like they don't, they don't get it. Like it that, that's why like this, this agenda to normalize this always gets so much pushback because it's, they don't want their children preyed upon. So there is a phenomenal book out there for any parents, any grandparents, any grandparents, anybody around children called protecting the gift. And that book is written by an FBI agent that tells you about the, the actual statistics based on data of who is coming after our children, how they're doing it. It's the soccer coaches. It's the church staff. It's the teachers. Straight on down the line, but the main message of that book in his book, he's got a book for women too, is this is trust your visceral gut reaction. And your, there's a gut reaction when you see an image of a grown man and drag with a bunch of little kids. And that's what we are being conditioned as a society to go against our gut reaction. And by doing that, we are allowing those who are going to pray after our children, giving them more opportunity. We need the spidey senses that say this is wrong. This person is creepy. We need to keep those intact and we need to protect those kids. Joined by April Murray Fogle here on the program. But I just, we still have to go through this and it's like every, every six months or so, there's some kind of drag queen story, our controversy. And I think, I think part of it's this. And then this is bad too, by the way. But it's just a middle finger to people who object to it. Like, hey, we're going to do this. And there's nothing you can say about it. You're just a hater. And whatever your reason is apparent or whatever your reason as a human being, let's say that to object to drag queen story hour, it's never given the benefit of the doubt that you just are doing it for like a reason that's not steeped in some kind of anti-gay bigotry. Well, and that's exactly what it is. It is. There is a part of this where every single person involved in scheduling this thing, planning this thing, picking the book, picking the drag outfit, promoting it. Every single person involved in that process thinks it's hysterical that people like me and you object. They think it's funny. They're getting one over. They're winning. And at the core of this, it's not about my outrage. It's about the children and what we're doing as a society to try to promote to children that this behavior is okay. A lot of these drag queen, not just the story hours, but these drag shows, family-friendly drag shows, they're promoting dancing, that's, you know, talking. I'm not just filming to be doing that. They're promoting, you know, putting dollar bills in places. There's this crossover of highly inappropriate age, just for adult-only content that these individuals are promoting. And it's like, give them a mouth of cookie. You give a drag queen a story hour and you're going to get them in your classrooms. Yeah, I mean, like, the classroom too. You know, it's not immune from this behavior. And I don't know. Like, there seems to be a little bit of a, well, what is the appropriate vetting process to keep this out of the classroom? Well, here's the thing is you, I am sure that I'm sure that there have been years and years of men who are in classrooms who then go out on weekends and partake in either being cross-dressing or a drag. And for years, that wasn't a thing. What we're getting now, the big, where I see the big problem, is the people who have an agenda and they bring it from that weekend into the classroom and then that's the problem and that's what we have to vet against. We have to vet against those ending up in the classroom with an agenda versus those ending up in the classroom who know where the line is. Let's talk about the thing everyone's talking about. What do you think is going to happen to Joe Biden? You know, I struggle with this because I really, I think he stays. I don't believe he should, but I just don't think his handlers, you know, the people around him, you know, for lack of a better way to put it, kind of reminds me of K.I.V. The people around him who are running him, who are running the show, those people don't want to lose power. And so they're going to have to be pushed out because he's oblivious to what's happening around him in the fallout. I think you're probably right. There's just no, there's no exit strategy here yet. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of bluster and you know, they've casually talked about the 25th amendment or whatever. Another thing I think makes me think he's going to stay is the energy, the far left, the AOCs and those people don't seem to be behind that idea of replacing him at all. And if you don't have like the loudest voices in the room, then you probably don't have the momentum going into it to make the change. I mean, I can think of like a hundred different reasons why this can't happen at this stage of the game. And there's not really a good answer of how to overcome those. Well, and you look at the alternatives. I think if something's going to happen, you know, one of the things that would be leading into their convention is so that they can get, they can make it a show of, you know, we're going to do something, we're going to change it here. The convention will be the place to do it. I just, I don't see anyone in a position of power. The talking heads went kind of crazy. And then they've even they've died down on the left. I think that he's going to skate through this. Just skate through it. He's going to lose and I landslide, right? Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. And this is in the fake wave that, a red wave that didn't, didn't turn out. I think this is an actual red wave. I think it is for all sorts of reasons combined. And a very small portion of that is people wanting Donald Trump as president. More people want just unhappy with the law fair used against him. A lot of people unhappy with Joe Biden. A lot of people, you know, there's a lot of things going into this that Trump just, I think, got very, very lucky. Here's a theory. And this is what I think. So look at Democrat party politics, go back to 16 even. Trump wasn't supposed to beat Hillary. It wasn't supposed to be that close in 2020. Here it is, 2024. I think they knew they were going to lose. Or they know they're going to lose in November. And I think some of this we're seeing right now is CYA. I think this that they are looking at the November election. And rather than say, it's the policies, it's this left wing vocation that's infiltrated culture. It's all these different things that the modern Democratic party led by Joe Biden stands for. Rather than blame that, rather than say that we need to moderate or we need to retool, they're going to go down swinging and just blame Biden himself. And this is a way to maintain the status quo of the Democratic party. I think that is a very likely scenario because then they don't have to take, they don't have to say all the things that we wanted that we asked for that we worked for. They didn't work. They're not working. You know, EVs, the gun control economy. All of the things you can be measured on in terms of this is something they wanted. This is something they got and it failed. I think that they have to, they have to blame this on him. And that is a, what are the history books going to say? They're going to say Biden wasn't qualified. They're not going to say Biden economics. Yeah, that's where this is headed. They are not going to take the fall for this. And it's just going to be Biden's fault because when I would like to see what would be refreshing to me, if they take the L, if the L happens in November and they actually look and they don't say, it was racist or it was racism that drove this or it was Russian collusion, or it was because Biden has Parkinson's or whatever. Hey, you know, maybe we need to rethink what we're doing here. The country isn't buying what we're selling and they won't do that. They didn't do it 16. They won't do it in 24, but my hope would be like, hey, Democrats, why are you forcing this stuff down our throats? Well, we end up with kind of a blank slate going into the next election cycle, right? We don't have a Trump. They don't have a Biden. We got to see what, see what's on the bench. And I think those issues come up in the next presidential is, you know, what are you actually going to do for the country? What is Donald Trump going to do for the nation when he's elected in November? The fact of the matter is, you know, he can say he's going to close the border. He said that once already. He can say he's going to deport people. And boy, would I love to see that. But, you know, I think the issues are going to have to come. We're going to have to swing back around from the cult of personality to getting our country back on track. And that's not going to happen until the next presidency. April, Marie Fogel, ladies and gentlemen, April, Marie, thanks for taking time for us to do this again next week. Sounds good. See you again. All right, guys. We'll be right back. This is the Jet Force Show on the 5th Talk, 106-5. [MUSIC] A couple guys in first class on a flight from New York to Los Angeles. Count 'em making small talk, killing time, flirting with the flight attendant. Oh, my love. Can this really be the end? [MUSIC] Welcome back to the Jet Force Show on the 5th, 55 minutes after the hour on this Thursday morning. So come, stay centered with Jack Williams in the next hour to stick around for that. We do appreciate you listening as always to the text line. Thank you, Marie, yeah, we got to keep them coming. I appreciate the feedback. Pat, so just me or do others think that judges shouldn't have a political lean? That's not what they're there for. I don't think it's political lean. 'Cause when we say political, you mean Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, but they can have a partisan lean, conservative, liberal, moderate. So, like, you got to be real careful there. 'Cause political, it implies, like, the same way you would, like, look at Auburn versus Alabama, right? Their labels assigned to a football team or college or whatever, and you can have a bias toward them for whatever reason, whatever emotional reason. But they should have a, they can have a more of a partisan, or not a partisan, but an ideological lean, partisan as party, but an ideological lean, conservative, liberal, if that makes sense, you want a liberal judge if you're a Democrat president. And there's no, like, it's impossible to turn that off. We're all human beings. We all have our biases. But some of us would prefer the bias, you lean in one direction or another. I'm just a judge, and I just look at the law. Yeah, but, like, judges have a lot of discretion, guys, and they can say that everything is just steeped in the law, but, I mean, they have a lot of discretion in their rulings. And they can be by the letter of the law, or they can, you know, be a little understanding and a new room there. They have a lot of headroom. So, I, you know, I think, I think there's, there's a discussion to be had there. Uh, the name text is Jeff. I can picture James here, Democrat troll sitting in his mom basements, probably 35, 30 years old, played Nintendo. It hasn't really got a clue what's going on. He thinks he does, but he's misled. Probably, I don't know about the being in his mom's basement. But I think it's a lazy talking point. Every time that we bring up Donald Trump, that it's like the knee jerk reaction is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. People like Trump for different reasons. This is why I think this is a big part of why people tend to be Trump supporters. It's, it's about preserving sort of the idea of America, the American dream, the nuclear family, the manufacturing jobs, stemming illegal immigrants, doing what's the best interest of the people in this country and not having these crazy globalist trade agreements. That is where Trump shores up his support. We'll be right back to Sifid Talk 10065. ♪ And look the thing you want to see ♪ ♪ Ain't nothing to do ♪ ♪ 'Cause I was country ♪ From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. ♪ Don't think ain't nothing this way ♪ ♪ No ♪ Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show. If I'm talking 10065, now we're number three now underway. 2513430106 would be a touch with the show. Hit us up on that text line. Go to about a half hour state senator, Jack Williams, running for ad commissioner in Alabama. So stay tuned for that. We do appreciate him making time for us. So we'll start here. I mean, I'm in on this all morning long. You see all the people kind of jumping off the Biden bandwagon right now. Now there is a component of that that is, yes, he's got some kind of health problems. We don't think he is the best candidate for us. We need another candidate. We need another nominee. But this is what I think. I think an element of this because these people, a lot of these people, including George Clooney, including Barack Obama, including Chuck Todd, including Jake Tapper, including, you know, go down the line, George Stephanopoulos. They knew Joe Biden had issues. Now maybe they didn't realize they were as bad until the debate, but they knew it. There was something wrong there. And those like who would talk about them? Ronnie Brown. Oh, Ronnie Jackson. I mean, Ronnie Brown used to be a running back for Auburn, but Ronnie Jackson used to be the White House physician. And now he's a member of Congress for the last like four years has been saying this. Like he is not fit to be president and they dismissed him. They castigated and they attacked him. How dare he say that? How dare he talk about that? How dare he make that diagnosis? He is discredited. He is a Trump sycophant. Well, he wasn't the only one. There were others. And now we're hearing all these discussions about Parkinson's and the early onset of Parkinson's is maybe what we're seeing, but they knew about this two years ago. I mean, this is a cover up. They covered this up. This is a criminal. I don't know. But they knew there were problems there. And now we're going to feign concern. Now we're going to act like there's an issue here that the current commander chief cannot go on any further from this point forward like this just happened yesterday. Oh, wow. He must have gotten really bad since last Tuesday. What are we going to do? Let's put it. Let's pin it off. Ed to New York Times. That'll do the trick. This is a CYA because it looks like Joe Biden is going to lose pretty handily in November. And I'm a little shocked to go ahead and edit this early. But I don't think it's for the reasons that they state. I think this is key. This is important. That Joe Biden isn't necessarily, it isn't him that people are going to vote against November. It's going to be Democratic party policies. It's going to be trying to force the market to adapt to global warmingism. The price of commodities, the input costs, the cost of the grocery store, the cultural rot, our public institutions, the men competing with females, biological men competing with females because they identify as a fee. It's all of that combined. It's just radical shit to the country that we are told we have to, we are forced. We are mandated to treat his mainstream culture and it's not true. It's just not true. We're trying to force a square peg into a round hole by telling us that we have to accept transgender females as females when it comes to athletic competitions. None of that is just not true. Now it's coming home to roost. All of this is being thrust upon us. The public say, no, no, no, no. We don't like this. We're voting against this. Rather than have to like, fess up and say, okay, message received. We were wrong. We're going to change our ways because Republicans had to do this. This is the whole, this is why they got away from like the number one, the establishment Republican, Rockefeller, Country Club, Republicanism. And why they got away even from like the Tea Party, like very, very doctrinaire, very dogmatic conservatism to more of a populist conservatism. A right of center populism preserved the cultural values of the country. Say, Merry Christmas. Don't be afraid to sing along with Lee Greenwood, God bless USA. That stuff that was the institutional levels frowning upon. The Republicans had to go through this and Trump prevailed. And then you saw a lot of them just kind of come around to Trump's case here. And this includes trade with tariffs and protecting an America first and a very protectionist, a national defense policy, less foreign entanglements that came to be, that came around. Democrats, they are like 50 different things. They're not clearly defined. They're the definition of a Democrat in 2024 as somebody who hates Trump. And all that being said, it's not working for them. And rather than blame the policy or the political positioning or whatever, they're going to blame Joe Biden. This is just exactly what they did with Hillary. It was Russia. Instead of Vladimir Putin and Russia being the scapegoat, it's going to be Joe Biden's health. So they could say face and continue trumpeting policies that are rejected overwhelmingly by Americans. Well, what are policies? It was our bad candidate. If we had a better candidate, if we had Kamala Harris or Gavin News, we would have won big bad orange man so much for them. It's not us. It's him. Seems like there's a little of that going on. Uh, Laurie, drag queens wouldn't be going to read to children that the parents were taking them. The parents are to blame more than the drag queens from Laurie. Yeah, but I mean, parents are going to do what parents are going to do. I guess I don't know. But what is the motivation of the drag queen? Any sexuality or kids is wrong as I T Jesus. Jeff used to, we'd see Christians showing up protesting the drag demons, but the non-denominational shopping center church movement calls it all love instead of the sin it is and it is weakened believers. That's a tough one. And I might, I'm not saying there hasn't been a delusion of the church. And I think, I mean, I'd say it. I think a lot of that delusion is just to bring in, make a big, to have bigger congregations. I mean, religion in America is shrinking. We're becoming more and more secular. People are turning away from God. Oh, I guess we are back now in a yes test. We're going back to the Jeff poor showed up and talked about those six, five. So let's get on this rant about Jason talking about non-denominational shopping center church movement calls it all love. This is said as we can believers. I was responding to that. That's like, you can hear me harp on this all the time about how people are turning away from God and turning toward government to be their higher power. So that being said, looking at this and the way this is taking us, I think these churches are more focused on building up their, their congregation and getting bigger numbers. And this is not necessarily like something that is like in bad faith. They want, they get as many people in the sanctuary and try to make them believers or followers of Christ. But they're willing to leave a little bit of these lifestyle choices on the table and maybe help people over. I don't know what the deal is there. Just be accepting of them and pray for them. Be to what you said. Captain John, remember, Obama getting caught on a hot mic saying, do not underestimate Joe Biden's ability to blink something up. Yes. Gary, where can I watch today's press conference today about any, any streaming news service or any cable news channel? I'm sure Gary, everybody in the country is going to be covering this. This is supposed to be a big make or break for Joe Biden. Derek, the direct result of the pray about it policy. Elaborate Derek. Squirrel. Not only is religious drinking, but the radical violent religious growing without condemnation from the atheist. Like an agnosticism that is about religion here that is problematic. I don't know. But I think whatever you think of this, the secularization, and this is kind of falling in the path of like Western Europe, getting away from organized religion, organized Christianity to be specific and going, just kind of going about it and the moral boundaries or I guess established in your head or whatever. But it's having consequences and it's allowing a lot of what we're seeing. You know, they wouldn't even air Ellen in Birmingham in the 1990s. And we've got a long way fast to drag Queen Story Hour in Alabama. Damienke, not necessarily turning away from God. Americans are turning away from organized religion. People run churches. People are corrupt. And it's fair criticism, but people have always ran churches. Damienke always, the churches have always been corrupt. Churches have always been man-made institutions. And ever since Jesus died on the cross, churches have been man-made institutions. So it's not like that's a new phenomenon. It's not like that just came along here to, you know, well, churches are corrupt. I don't think that's a applicable reason for the decline of the church in America and across the globe. I think in America at least and in the West, the reliance on government has a lot to do with it. Ben writes, in your opinion, what happens if Biden wins? The same thing that happened with Biden won last time, people will say conspiracy and then they will. We'll see a big 2026 election. We'll bear it back. This is "Up in Talk" 6-5. Happiness on earth ain't just for high achievers. Our heroes have always been cowboys. And they still are the same. Sadness or charm. One step in my heart for themselves. And there's no food in that. Welcome back to the Jeff Pore Show. We're going to talk about the 6-5. It's your stay with us on this Thursday morning, 2513-43-0106. You wouldn't be in touch with the show. You just text me. We'll have a little time at the end of the program if you want to weigh in on anything. Silicon Jack Williams, state senator from Wilmer. First time on the program. I'm looking forward to that. Very glad he can make time for us. Definitely there. Now a real quick programming note. Tomorrow's program. Our Friday lineup. Todd Stacey album. Daily news. Alice Pro Tem. Chris Pringle. Making his return to the program. And, say Senator Chris Elliott, our returning champion of the show. That's coming up on tomorrow's show. So we got here a named texture. Jeff, let the show. This is Perry from Fair Hope. The Bible plain of states. There'll be plainly states. I assume it's what you mean. There'll be a falling away of the church. And I won't argue with you again about game board. The game board thing is just, I don't know, like, I appreciate the job the game boards do, but excuse me for being a little uneasy about a game board that is so freewheeling with use of force, okay? And I don't understand this, like, this loyalty pledge or doing any government official, let me tell you a little bit about the game board, but a game board administering lethal force. I'm just, excuse me for being a little uncomfortable with, okay? If you, if you exceed your limit down at the, at the Jubilee administering lethal force, maybe that seems like a gross overreach. Maybe you call in somebody else who's more versed in de-escalation. Maybe at least try. I understand some circumstances may not warrant that, but going with the pepper spray because the guy had too many flounder in his pickup truck is a little, I, I just, even if he's in the wrong, we need to expect our officials to be, take the moral high ground here. Anyway, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, you want to be in touch with the program. All you got to do is text me, uh, let's see here. We had, we had some good economic news today, I guess, that, that inflation, it looks like it's slowing, but the inflation is still the way what economists explained it to me this morning, still twice as much as it was under Trump. So, um, look for that as a sort of a, maybe it's a sub headline or a page two that, the buying economy is improving, but three percent inflation, albeit low for the buying administration, uh, is not, is not where they need to be. And they're running out of time here with the economy. Um, the inflation reduction act, just not really. That needs to be wash, rinse, repeat over and over again. Doesn't it? I mean, we cannot have that enough about the failed policies. That's, that's the Trump play. Let the Democrats implode, let them have their little civil war. And it's, it's just a bunch of rats fighting over a piece of cheese because it's all about power. Let them have their civil war. Talk about how much the economy is terrible. Talk about how the immigration policy is not, not good. It doesn't make sense. The interpret, the, the, the, like, it, it doesn't make sense politically. Certainly doesn't make sense legally. And I, I'm not a believer that they're just bringing in voters. I mean, if the Democrats wanted to cheat, they would just cheat. Why do they need warm bodies, illegal immigrants to cheat? They just wouldn't make up people, right? Why, why, why even make up illegal immigrants? Why not just make up real people who maybe they're deceased or maybe they're still alive. They just don't vote. Why, why would you go? So I just, I don't think that is what's going on here. Once again, text line 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. If we have time, we will, we will have, we will get to your text. This is the Jeff Moore Show and F.M. Talk 106-5-1-0-6-5-1-0-6-5. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore Show and F.M. Talk 106-5-1-0-6-5. They should stay with us on this Thursday morning. Text line, assuming we have time at the end of the program, 5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Feel free to respond to whatever it is that is on your mind. Are you here on this program? We do appreciate the feedback. But joining us now, I'm pleased to have my next guest. He is the state senator from Wilmer. But in this list, I got it. You all know him. I state senator Jack Williams, running for Acabister joins us on the line. Senator, good morning. How you been? I am great. I'm great. I've traveled in the state of course, going back and forth. So putting a lot of miles on me. Well, you get a real early start here. Talk a little bit about that. How's the campaign going in these early stages? I think it's going great. I think every late to the farmers being that I was a farmer, or still having the kids run everything now. But I think I relate to them in a sense that I'm probably one of the true farmers that's ever run for this for Ag Commissioner. I know we're out there early. Open the ward people off for running where we can run a cheaper campaign. We look to win as a course and we're going to work as hard as any other job we've ever worked. I'm a working person. And I believe in getting out there and doing your research and running. Now, Senator, one of your colleagues, David Sessions and I talked about this. We had a long conversation there at the state house just how hard it is right now for farmers in the state, the input cost or through the roof. People, I mean, you really hear this. It seems to be kind of a common theme around the state. But I mean, is that the sense you get? Like the Biden administration, everything that's going on there is really taking its toll on Ag in Alabama. Oh, it has. And from a federal level, they're not paying enough on a lot of crops that when they pay, oh, you only get enough back to really pay for your seed and fertilize and stuff, but not enough to make a profit. We've got farmers across our state and it's lost 92 years in a row. This year, if they don't have a good crop, it's going to really hurt them. I mean, they're, they only can survive so long. When you have equipment costing you what it costs, over a million dollars a piece for times and stuff farmers having to share a lot of them get too farmed together. I was at a cattleman's meetin' other than I didn't know. Because what I do is a lot of cattleman forestry and album meetings right now, that's the crowds I'm hittin'. But, you know, one of the questions was how do you, how does a young person go into farming? How do we get them into farming? There is really no way unless you give 'em everything. And once you give 'em everything, it is still hard for 'em to make a living. You give 'em the equipment, the land and all, but when they put everything into it, they're still makin' below minimal waste, the majority of 'em. I mean, it's just hard for 'em to make a living. But if we don't do somethin', we've got to come up with the solution to kind of help 'cause we don't have the product out there right now. Our cattle numbers are down since 1962 to that number because there's a lot of retired farmers goin' out of business for one thing. If you're 80 years old and you're a farmer, you never have saved money. You've always invested it back in your farm, bought land, done whatever you could, invest in the farm when you done it. And then when you go to retire, you have your cattle to sell and all that, which cattle bein' right now at the highest market they've ever been, and they keep goin' up. But, like I say, we don't have the product out there in most general people that list in your show. They can go to the store and they'll know it's not in it. We don't have a solution to make it any better. I mean, you can train all the people in the world, but you've got to have farmers to grow it and train 'em to grow it and produce it. And it's not just on a whole tree, everything. I mean, I talk to people all over the state, and of course, we're all tryin' to come up with solutions to produce more, you know. I carried a bill last year on a lab-grown meat to keep it out of Alabama to keep our people safe. I've had 17 states come in and copied that bill. So far, we'll have it filed next year, Florida copied it. They passed it a week before we did. We left NASA where they could do research on it. And we really don't have a solution. Well, some of it isn't this. You look at what the federal government is doing from a regulatory standpoint. And it's just as you brought up with the lab-grown meat, like they're tryin' to push us in one direction and make us live these weird lifestyles, the name of worshipping into the altar of environmentalism. But from a regulatory standpoint, a lot of that's adding into the cost of being a farmer, and it's not just economic policy. It's also all these other things that these Democrat administrations have done through the EPA or whatever. Yeah, from water runoff, well, let me go back to the diesel cost right now. I mean, in the Biden administration, this field has doubled this last time. There is no way, if you're runnin' a big tractor, a really big tractor, you're burnin' 300 gallon a day, which farm diesel is probably right now 320 a gallon. But just add that in, and that's just one piece of equipment runnin'. You're investin' everything you've got in your farm. To be able to run, you're havin' to put it up for collateral. And there have been several farms across the state that have lost their farms because of it. The federal regulations are killin' us. I mean, like I said, for water runoff, even to the point of what chemicals we can use to spray for bugs and all that they took off the market. I mean, that's where I'm at on that. So what else to say about it, and then until they loosen it up, under Trump, we were gettin' some slack. We were able to do stuff we had not done with EPA, stuff down to the point of on our own farm, having to dig our diesel planks up and settle 'em above ground and stuff that have been there for years. I mean, and I could say one of the biggest things is runoff. Well, and I think it's this, like when you're the head ag official for a state, that like, you gotta be, this is sort of it, like, you gotta push back against the federal government, just like any other executive cabinet level position in the state, because a lot of this is just unnecessary, isn't it? It is, it is. Let me go back to the meat, our federal government put over $3 million on research on the meat. I didn't know this even after my bill was passed, but have done research on it. If you go back probably six weeks ago, Fox News uncovered it, that how much that good in it, and that they had, uh, was gonna test it on our military. Now here we are, we have the best military anywhere, and they're gonna test lab-grown meat on our military, so they would be another guinea pig for all the shots we've gave them in the past, and everything else. Unheard of, they allowed the lobbyists to come up there and fight to pull money out of the farm bill that's supposed to be that we're funding everything else out of anyway, because really it's only a little portion of the farmers get out of the farm bill. They spent over $2 million trying with their lobbyists trying to get money out of our farm bill to fund a lot of this. I mean, come on, this is our farmers we're talking about. What's what? And then you wonder why they can't be in business? What's put them out of business? Or why a young person doesn't want to be in the farming now? A farmer did not, I mean, with all the new equipment he can't work on, it's a lot of still running old equipment they can actually work on, but a farmer has to be a mechanic. He has to be a fan. I mean, he has to be everything, and you have to love it, because you're not gonna make no money at it. It's from year to year. It's figuring out how you're gonna make it another year. Right, it's that. It's this though, it's like, the left is trying to steer the culture away, from, you know, the farm lifestyle or whatever. They want us to all live in big cities. They want us to all, like, work as a collective. And I just think like there's something going on there in modern, liberal politics that is staring policy away from farming, but it is actually kind of working. It's making it harder to go into this as an occupation. Well, it's harder to go at it with all the regulations they're putting on everything now, but it's also hard to entertain people to go into it, because, like I say, our generation, back to my generation, we were used to working the seven days a week. I mean, we had to get up on Sunday morning, and it was gonna have to feed hogs or whatever, before you could even go to church. You had, you know, unless the auction was in the ditch, you had to work all day if you had eight down or something. But there's just very few people, and the generation that's coming on, and the generation that came on, after me, that was to put back kind of time in working seven days a week, when I talk to farmers all across the state right now, their kids have left the poem because they can go to work, make a whole lot more money, and work five days a week or less, and have a vacation. A farmer can't take a vacation, 'cause he's got to have some, I'd take care of livestock, and a lot of our farms that passed down, that they're losing, and stuff today. When we were farming, everybody had hogs, cows, they were diversified. If one thing was down, they could survive on another one, maybe. But then in the recent years, our slaughterhouses have closed down away from here and all, so they got two watersheds, and they're forced away from here and stuff, to the slaughterhouses. So in the state of Alabama, you really don't have any commercial hog growers anymore, or like that. I mean, it's just a lot of stuff that's been took away from us. - Joined by State Senator Jack Williams here on the program. He's running for Ag Commissioner in the 2026 cycle. Senator, the other thing, I kind of, you're talking about this and giving, you know, like, what is the next generation of farmers? Look like if you give them the land, the equipment, it's still hard to make a living, but look at like education, and you look at, I mean, we talk about trades and workforce development all the time. Do you think the state's doing what it needs to do to kind of teach? I don't know what you could teach. I know I went to Auburn and they taught a lot of Ag there, but like, is higher ed or even K through 12 doing what it can do in that regard to prepare farmers? - Yeah, we could do more and actually, Commissioner Peyton, I flew to the junior tech and looked at a program they had not long ago. That was a two year program that took out a lot of the math and science that they could go two years. We are actually working, or I am working with Auburn now to see if we can get the two year college system to have a program there because Auburn is not going to have it for the four year program, but they have everything set up their part to be able to do it. So we're trying to work with the two year system to come in and let them have it at Auburn and they would be going through a two year system instead of that. That does them a lot of it. I mean, does everything a farmer needs to know he don't have to go to all this four year stuff that a lot of it the first two years is not even going to be paying the farm and just trying to get mass and science and stuff yet. But yes, one of my things is, and I am working with some people now, I want to work on workforce development for farmers and log in every industry that I consider under ag to train people and maybe get them into it somewhere, at least be able to hire people. Like I said, you can't even hire somebody to work on the farm. What do you want to? You can't pay them enough. Excuse me. You cannot pay them. What do you go to a chemical plant or in our area? He can start out at 20 dollars an hour or more in a chemical plant a kid. We have training right at six mil high school where they leave there the weekend they get out of school and go to work making 80,000 dollars a year. There is no way a farmer can attract anybody to do that. The only way we can do it is to start training them where we can get the pipe scale up too but have qualified work that you can actually put a kid on the tractor or something that has not been only at all of that. You mentioned logging. Talk about forestry if you would. When I was in school, there was a lot of people. That was a salt after occupation understanding the science of that and the logistics of that. Are we in a good place there? So much of that is why it really drives some of the ag into black belt, right? Yes. If we could get the pricing up on logs, I mean, the pricing on footwood and all of that. We have enough wood. I think we have like an item for that. We started cutting the day in 20 years. We wouldn't have what's cut. We're still planting back. And you get so much keep packed with now and logging. Like the footwood is $2 a ton today. So that means if you sold a truckload, when they hold a truckload out of wood, the actual person that's standing timber and getting down home is getting about $50 a load coming out of wood. There is no way you can afford to grow timber on that land. I mean, it's just not unless you've got land. It's just sitting there and you leave it alone. But down home, even thin and trees are 15 years before you thin trees. And down home, we do a lot of long leaf, which takes longer. You're not. I'm logging, waiting for them to start logging out. They may start up the day. I had 160 acres we did. They was going to cut. And then I have a, not going to call the timber people, but that's on the other end that we have to cross. One piece to get out of. They send in an open day that you got, they wanted $8,000. Put up across one bridge. And this is the same people that crossed my stuff all the time coming out with timber on a herd of, you know, everybody's out to get what they can get. But I would process their solo right now. It's unreal. I mean, it's just nobody's cutting unless they have to. And you do have to rotate your timber and cut. But it's stuff. And it's one for migrant workers coming in and running the equipment right there. Nobody would be able to operate in that business. Oh, and it is a lot of H2A. They use on that also. It's like the nursery. You know, right now, like I said, you cannot attract people to go to work on the nursery or anything else. And, you know, our nursery, we, I mean, we train people highways. But when you're bringing H2A in and almost $20 a hour to pay them, it's even hard to make it in there. And I mean, I mean, and that's what the federal government has said on it. Everybody thinks migrant worker library is cheap. It's not. And if we could hire all Americans or whatever to work, everybody would love to. But like I said, the generation that's come home, they don't want to get out in the heat, the sun. And, and they up to them, and they're back like we grew up to it, you know. Well, I told them I was the other day about a gentleman and they said, why, why would you want to run back to me? I said, well, where I can get back? I said, but when I ran for a senate, I had a lot of them tell me, but I still need the horse dog you ever had. I said, no. No, apparently you haven't grown 100 acres of watermelons and men on a watermelon field all day for several weeks. And, and stuff. And so, no, this was easy job. I get to do stuff for people that hopefully bring stuff back to them. So, we got to leave it there. We're out of time, but we appreciate your time this morning. And let's talk again soon. I look forward to it. Thank you very much. Stay safe. Jack Williams, they're running for Ag Commissioner. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Porte Show on Epitalk, 106-5. One of my most day about night sleep on day eight of my best. Coming to your life like I do every night from the heart of your radio. [Music] We'll go back to the Jeff Porte Show on Epitalk, 106-5. They're sticking around on what's left of this Thursday morning. Come up on tomorrow's program. I'm having daily news. It's Todd Stacey. We've got a state house pro, Tim. Chris Pringle and our returning champion state senator. Chris Elliott, that's coming up on the show tomorrow. We have any text here. I think we've got a couple. We could get to Jerry Wright's. I owe someone who didn't support the BS tax runs against that man for Ag Commission. Let's see, Jim. So what is the senator's plan on Ag? Seems like the problem is profitability. I didn't hear what he was going to do. But I don't think it's the government's job to make your business profitable. But as an Ag Commissioner, I think the appropriate role is to be an advocate for agriculture in the state, whatever that may be. But you need to be the advocate in a business setting, in a government, federal government, regulatory setting, or whatever it is. And that's what we're really looking -- oh, that's what I would be looking for. And I don't know. Derek says, "Well, scary." Anyway, enough of that. Coming up here shortly, Sean Sullivan with Midday Mobile. What you got for him? Jeff, yeah. Come up in just a couple minutes. Baldwin County Sheriff, Haas. Mac is going to join me. He's announced his retirement, going to take the reins at the Alabama Sheriff's Association. He'll talk to me about his time with the Baldwin County Sheriff's Department and what's in the front windshield, looking that way, in just a couple minutes. Plus, Dale Leach from Land Yap will go back into even more of what happened at Tuesday's Mobile City Council meeting. That's on the way. Plus, man, it's love in the air. Huma, Aberdeen. And Alex Soros. It's going to be beautiful. Oh, my. What if Anthony Wiener will be the flower girl? Oh, it's very crazy. At least be texting her. Would you like to see the guest list for that? Yeah. No, that wedding reception. Anyway, that's it for me. It has been a pleasure. I will try to do better tomorrow. Sergeant Phyllis forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Jeff Moore Show on the flip-talk. 1065. ♪♪