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Midday Mobile - State Senator Greg Albritton talks gambling - June 24 2024
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On this Monday edition of the show, the phone number and the text line, same as it was last time we did the show on Friday. Same has been for 15 plus years. 343 0106 gets you through on a phone call or to the text line 3430106. If you're like coming through town, you're not from around here. It's 251-343-0106 and when you have the FM Talk 1065 app there on your phone, in addition to be able to text us and call us from that app, there's a Talkback feature. You'll see a microphone icon on the front page of the screen. You press that, unless you record the message, emails it to the show and I can play it back right here on the show. All right, so laid out a little bit earlier, all the things coming up on today's show. And when I did, I mentioned our lead off batter on today's show. And for this week, State Senator Greg Albritton joining us, lots to talk about with the Senator and thanks for your time. Hey, thanks for being here. It's okay. So I remember last time you were in and what I enjoyed about our conversations is you've been pretty frank about and this was back during the session when I think it had come out of the conference committee and you had looked at what was out there on the gambling as it, you know, as it changed and changed. And you just said at that point to me here on the show that this was too far from what y'all had passed out of the Senate and paraphrasing. You could put it in your own words to be able to be a yes vote and you were a no vote on some legislation that people said, well, he carried it in the Senate. So what changed? Lots of things changed in it. Lots of things. The primary thing that changed is it became economically non-viable. And then the other is it became politically non-viable from several points. We have proven, I think, in our history of what will pass both in the House and in the Senate. And that is a comprehensive plan that covers all the bases, that takes in all the gambling that's going on, controls it, caps it, governs it, regulates it, taxes it all takes care of all of that in one bill. But when you move away from that model, that's when you start losing votes and you start losing revenue and you start losing control. And that's what happened. That one of the most fascinating things, I'll come back to the politics of it, but you just said it, the two things, economically unviable first. And you had talked about that last time. And I have not, other than you laying that out, I had not heard that discussed elsewhere. Can you give us like the cliff notes of that? Like when you say it's economically unviable with it pushing out, you were showing, you were telling us last time that it could be a net zero or even a loss for the state to do the bill they were passing. How would that happen? Well, a couple of different ways. First off, you know, Ben Lee years ago put out a executive order telling Aliyah do not pursue this any further. And he took a lot of heat for that, but you know why that was done was because it was costing too much. And there was no revenue being brought in. It was a negative sum game. And that's where we are in the gambling industry. And the bill that was finally presented was going to be even worse than that. But you need cost order enforcement mechanism for the state to deal with what was laid out there would have cost the state more and payroll or whatever it would be than it would have received in revenue. Is that what you're saying? That's correct on several fronts, not only in sending officers out, but also in the enforcement in, because one of the things we got to do is get cleaned up. It's the 19 or 18 or whatever there are local CAs. Everybody says gaming is illegal in Alabama. It's not it's legal in several different places and it's unregulated throughout all the state. You got to capture all of that in one school. When you say, and it's been a frustration mind, but you say that it's illegal in the state. Outside of the sovereign lands of the Portsmouth of Creek Indians, I don't know. Alabama Supreme Court says that the electronic machines were bingo. So you had places in Green County. You had places like a green track and yet what was going on with Tumka and shorter. How was passing a local amendment there make them legal when the Supreme Court has given the decision for the state on that? I still was left not understanding that. Well, because again, there are six Supreme Court decisions in recent history. And the only thing they ruled in that is I don't understand it is they're talking about electronic bingo in their very localized definition. But remember, out of the CAs that we've got, there's horse racing there, there's dog racing there. There's also opinions that say that digitize the horse racing and dog racing is legal. Then you get into the aspect that there's some of these CAs that allow some type of electronic bingo link. And then you get into the common aspect of it is, is PCI can do this? Why can't I that I have a CA allowing me to do it when they don't? It is a we have created in our legislative process a mess in Alabama that that is not going to be able to be cleaned up by the courts. It's a legislative problem. Okay. So they're that the way because I have been frustrated on the air before and saying if these things are illegal, why would take a political change? You know, if the rule of law is X then enforce it, but you're saying that that's not clear, right? Even better. Exactly. Exactly. Because you've got too many types of gambling out there going on, plus in what way, and they have not ruled on anything dealing with the electronic gaming. By that, I mean, sports gaming, a digitized gaming online. They haven't done anything with that to my mind. No, and I know you said that's one of the things that changed there, you know, in this year's push that what was, you thought, short-sighted, right? That that was a place that really needed to be addressed and they weren't addressing it. And you thought kicking the can down the road was not the right choice. Correct. In fact, we didn't kick the can. We just took our head the same. If you're just joining us talking to state Senator Craig Albright and what about them on the political side? Let's talk about getting that, hurting those cats and getting all the political entities to agree. Is it ever possible? Well, not without the public being involved. You've got the politics of it is, frankly, is you've got the big meals in the corral and they don't want another meal in the corral. They don't want to dilute the political authority or power in the state. And that's one of the major issues that's here. The second thing is getting control of the legislature and the votes therein. You know, for a while we were there with the Senate passing the bill, House not dealing with it, then the House passed a very similar bill and then the state, the Senate took it and made it became inviable from that, as we've discussed. And yet in all those comings and goings, we know that we have always been within two or three votes of getting it, some would argue even less of getting this whole thing passed. But we can't seem to get enough political strength or will to overcome that. And is it that there's disparate, I mean, that the entities in there and getting the votes are so disparate that there's not one thing they could agree on? The tent has to grow so big to include those different ideas there that it can't support itself to stay with a bad analogy, I guess. That's great. That is great. We had in the arguments and such going on, I may be talking about school here, but we had one Republican senator tell us that he could drive the whole bill and get 25 Republican votes. Well, he didn't write the whole bill, but he was involved with it. And you know how many Republicans votes he got? 50, not 25. Okay. So my point is there you've got to be able to deal with a 70 existing, which are predominantly Democrat votes. You've got to get those in. You've got to get the votes with the Republicans in with enough to be able to pass it. It's got to be bipartisan. It cannot pass by one single party. Because as we've detailed on this show a lot of times that there's a certain number of Republican votes and whether I agree or disagree with them, I understand they're coming at it from a moral they're just they're no you can't give me any very they're kind of like no version again when there's no reason to talk about nuance. I'm a no for everything, right? That's great. And I believe there's even fewer of those that are really morally against it. It is and that's a qualification, you know, whether it's a lottery or whether it's this or what is done with paper or what is done with electronic. All those have to be dealt with. But the issue really becomes down is what can you vote for for the good of Alabama? Well, and people will say that anything is not, you know, it's not good for Alabama, but you know, I go back to a Liberty question. You look at polling out there, Senator, and people people want to have a have a vote. But of course, there's sometimes a non nuanced view. I'm sure you hear it with the people talking to you and calling your office. And you know, I just want to vote on a lottery. Why won't you let me just vote on a lottery? What is it with y'all? Because a lottery does not, it exacerbates creates a greater problem. If you pass the lottery, that's going to allow by federal means is such class regaining, which is going to open up table games to PCI or so is argued, whether it's Asheville or not is another matter, but that's the argument. And if that comes in, then the seven people that are out there, there's existing by some other amendment, it's going to say, wait a minute, they're doing it, we should be able to do it. And then even if we do the lottery, that's going to open up everything as far as they like Sonic and online even further. It will talk about expanding gaming, but the gain from the lottery will be so limited, it won't even be able to stand on its own. That's what you had said last time, that it would not even be a would not be a net revenue to the state. Correct. And you have so many people out of Montgomery telling us it's going to solve, just give us this, it's going to solve all these problems. No, a lottery is nothing more than a political response to a significant problem we have in Alabama, which is an unregulated gaming industry. Hey, I do wonder, and I come from a kind of a pretty fair libertarian bent on this, and free market, and back to our founders, is there any way? And I understand the political hurdles, but what kind of reset would there have to be to where we say, okay, first Constitution, we do a CA, we legalize gaming, and the supporting legislation says, hey, here are the rules to get into these gaming things, you have to come up with whatever the bond is, and the license fee, this and that, and then let the free market decide how many casinos there are, let them get in there and say, we're going to compete. I mean, how much of an undoing of what we have painted ourselves into in Alabama would have to happen before that could happen? Actually, we've been very close to that on several fronts. We really have. And then I think that's where we're going to have to go. The market, if we regulate the market and allow the market to play into this, it will sort itself out, and the state can do a good job in regulating it. That's been proven in many places, and we can do it too. But we've got to be able to find the means to accomplish that. That's the political problem. It can be done. We know what to do. It's a problem as we can't get those last two or three votes. So it would be, if somebody, once these changes to happen is kind of incumbent upon them, maybe when they're looking at the primaries, and they need to get in front of this instead of worrying about it once it's in session. You have to put somebody through who you think's going to vote that way. That's correct. That is correct. People get an idea because we have a part-time legislature, a yellowing session, starting in the new year, and you go in through May. That encapsulates everything done. Pull back the curtain. Will there be discussions before y'all gavel in about gambling going forward for the next session? Oh, yeah. There's discussions ongoing. The least every week with me, and I'm not the first guy people come to anymore. There's discussions going on all the time about how to resolve this problem. It remains a problem. We've got to figure out a way to get the votes to solve it because I think we have. We know what to do. We've done this so often times. It's cookie cutter with the language and the phrases. You swap out or whatever. But we know what to do, but we've got to get the votes to get something a reasonable bill passed. Then we have a system set up so it can change, amend, regulate so the market forces can act in the way they should. So that is chances that, hey, is it a good bet? Something like that might happen? I don't know. I don't know. This past session was extremely difficult. I'm not sure if we have not fortified the trenches enough that we can't get past it. I don't have an answer for that yet, Sean. All right, Senator. Well, we will bring you back here, you know, over the months to come before session to see if there's any kind of, I don't know, concrete is trying on that or there's a direction on that. So we appreciate the update and hopefully we'll hear from you soon. All right, man. Thanks a lot. All right, there you go. State Senator Greg Albright and our guests right here on Midday Mobile. There's a little update on gambling and maybe the why nots in the bags. You're right back. This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 10065. It's at Talk 26, FM Talk 10065 and Midday Mobile. Hope you had a great weekend. I've listened to Dalton's recounting of Rock the Country, covered in town. We rock the Escutampa River, big shout out to Bob at Sunshine Canoe Reynolds, a float till I think of your 21, 22 of us on one canoe float. And we all made it back. It was an amazing, yeah, great Saturday, great weekend. All right, to the text line. And if we're getting slow on the text line today, but they're coming in now, I would just get them internet synapses firing. Slide Dog says question for your last guest mentioned that if the lottery was out of Alabama, it would be a revenue neutral event. How was that so? I haven't heard an explanation as to why that would be. So he said it in the last time he talked with me, he's been back towards the end of session. He had detailed it probably better than he did day, but what he was saying is the amount of enforcement. So that would have to, okay, you set up because the way the bill would look for a lottery situation, you got to set up a lottery commission, you got to grow. I've got this weird opinion that you should legalize people to be private lotteries and let them pay an exercise to the state and license and let the chips fall where they may. But the way the state had set this up, the mechanism of regulating and putting into lottery would eat up the revenues that they would come from the lottery. Their numbers coming out, now I don't produce these numbers, but the revenue projections, it would be so much more like what was it at one point? They said 700 million coming in the lottery and then they backed it down. I think sub 200 million that would come in from the lottery in Alabama. And so it would eat up the amount of money. Like I said, I look at it. I think I have a clean way to look at it. I look at a Liberty question. I'm not doing the, if I want to play in that field, I've been suggesting for 10 years that if we're going to do a lottery and we're going to apply the money where needs to go, we need to do Alabama needs to be the first state in the nation to do a prison lottery that the lottery pays for the prisons. It's always about the kids. He'll get a lottery, it's for the children. It'll make them learn more. My idea was like, we'll pay for prisons with it. But in reality, my real push for lottery is question and liberty. He's looking at it from the revenue side and saying that it wouldn't be enough to make a difference, even with that being such a draw for people. But it's also not politically, that was the economic side, not politically going to make it through because all the other entities that are lined up and they have people in the legislature that are lined with their ideas. And so if they don't get their way, then you're not going to get your way. And Daniel and Foley says the state needs to stop getting in the way. Get out of the alcohol business, the weed business, and let the free market work. Daniel, what shocking concepts, huh? What about that free market thing, right? But it's Alabama, we're great for business. We're all about free markets. Yeah, be right back. This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065. By 1235 to FM Talk 1265 Midday Mobile, glad to have you here on this Monday. Let's check in with my buddy Ron at Mobile Bay Coins and find jewelry and talk as we get the week started. Precious metals, how are the prices looking? Right, you're looking pretty good. Gold is trading right now at $2,342 and can change and silver is at $29.75. On the same as it was Friday, Sean, so it's holding steady. Great time to set up a hedge. We've been hopping with people coming in buying gold, silver, platinum, palladium. And a lot of people today have been buying fractional gold. In other words, they just can't afford to buy a full ounce of gold. So they buy a tenth of an ounce or a quarter or a half ounce. And you don't have to buy an ounce. A lot of people get scared off like I just don't have that money right now, but they can start out small and then eventually trade up to a one-out coin if that's what they're looking for. You're actually talking about language, right? I am that guy and I look at the amount of cash. So to be able to buy fractional gold, but early on too, when you started steering me, that's one of the things that got me interested in silver because I could take home a whole coin or something like that. And you told me back then that there was this ratio between gold and silver that over time, not every day, but over time, there's a balance between the two precious metals. Is that still whole true? It does. And a lot of people have been favoring silver over gold just for that reason because back in, you know, you're looking at 20 years ago, in 2001, it was in ratio, it was about 40, and in 2010, ratio was about 60, and now it's in the 80s. So the spreads getting wider and wider, a lot of people expect silver to eventually come back. You know, there's no guarantees in life, but the way silver gets used up in commercial applications and gold is usually recoverable, silver just ends up disappearing faster than gold. Although there is more of it on the earth, there's still a limited supply. You can't create gold or silver, and what there is is what there is. Absolutely. And it's a hedge, a part of a robust and healthy portfolio. So tell people how to come down and get that education. I've been getting for decades from y'all at Mobile Bay Coins. Yeah, we're going to come by the shop at 2204 Government Street, located in Midtown Mobile. They can find us on the web at mobilebaycoin.com or give us a call to shop 251-725-1590. Thanks, Ron. You're welcome, Sean. All right, there he is, Ron at Mobile Bay Coins and Find Jewelry. All right. Tell you what, we'll get this text out and we'll get back to the text on the second. I do want to roll through a couple of these stories. Don just may be aware of this too, and maybe we'll talk about this later from WK or G. The Alabama Environmental Justice Summit begins today in Mobile. Alabama's first environmental justice summit starts later today in Mobile at the Outlaw Convention Center. Chad Petrie, my man. Good dude. Solid dude. Chad Petrie, great human being, as I'm noting here. He says, writes, "While most environmental efforts focus on wildlife or nature, environmental justice seeks remedies for people affected by pollution, climate change, and other issues." So that event's going on. We're talking about it in the hallway. Do you think there'd be any kind of reverse protest going on? Like, the climate change folks, when they went and put the orange, whatever it was at Stonehenge the other day, I mean, come on. They go to face works of heart. I mean, if you listen to any period of time, I'm pretty green as a, as, you know, I'm a conservationist. I think there are so many things we can do locally instead of getting people exhaust a lot of hot air on global discussions versus focusing on the things they can really work on here at home that are tangible. But do you think there'll be any reverse protest when they try to have this versus the climate protesters messing everything else up? You know what I'm talking about? The idiots that go throw like paint on the Mona Lisa, even though there's glass in front of it or go put the orange paint on Stonehenge or go to face these things to try to get their attention. It doesn't work. Any of the flip side doesn't work too. While we're joking about reverse, like a reverse climate protest going on, going on, blowing coal guys in your trucks, the blowing coal, what do you, like, what are you accomplishing? Like just for a second, what do you, like, I'm, I'm a person who's completely tuned in the fact that fossil fuels are going to be part of how we get energy for decades and decades, right? It's a, it's a, a, I wouldn't say cheap, a less expensive form of getting energy. It's also compact, right? Versus batteries and vehicles. It's a thing that can, you know, right now with technology, the best form of getting more energy from less space, right? Okay. So we, we keep using that. And, but I'm still, like I've told you, I'm into solar. I think solar is very cool. I don't think we're at that point. I don't believe in government mandates or government incentives for alternative energy, but I think alternative energy is cool. I think electric cars are cool. I think diesel trucks are cool. I mean, they're all, they're all cool. But when you do like the blowing coals, I don't get that either. Like you're showing off that you're burning more. I want the truck that gets the biggest truck I can drive that gets the best fuel economy. I don't think I'm, like, I don't want to spend more money at the pump. I, you know, I just haven't gotten that. I don't know what you're doing. I think you're doing the same thing as like the idiots that go, the climate idiots that go, you know, kicking the hacky sack around and go throw paint on some piece of art when you're, you know, blowing coal and going to show everybody what is, you know, the coal, the coal smoke, the, is, is black smoke as you can get, blowing out there right past the truck testicles hanging off your, you know, are you changing minds? Are you, are you winning an argument doing that? How about we just be honest about it and that fossil fuels are a great form of energy, right? They, they, they have lifted so many people in the world to a first world status. Do we need to look at alternative? Sure, we do. I mean, if there's anywhere you can get energy, find the best, most economically way to get energy in a given place, places windy is a place to put a turban, right? And you get wind there. You got a lot of sun, you do, you do solar, all the other needs for it. You do fossil fuels. I mean, this is, I don't know why you have to come down, why you have to put on one jersey and be like all on that jersey and team. Why you can't say, Hey, you know what we ought to do is be logical about where we get energy from and use the most efficient form of getting that. And how about efficiency too? To think about how much more miles we can stretch out of a gallon of gasoline, how much better we treat our air here in this country, low and, you know, compared to places like China and elsewhere that you got to be on one side. All right, the, okay, let's see, let's see what we'll go to a lot of stuff coming in at one time. That's good. I can juggle. Let's do this. We'll go to, let's see, first up, you want to go to text line, you want to go to phones. Okay, we'll go to the text line first here real fast. I think that's from earlier, maybe this texture says don't mess with my hacky sack. Listen, you and your drum circle, whoever you are in the name, name texture, y'all are the problem. If I could only get rid of the hacky sacks and drum circles, this country would be a lot better. Aidan and citronel says on the high side, how much energy can be produced by renewable resources? Bingo. There's a certain amount, right? And as we've squeezed more miles out of the gallon of gas, you will squeeze more energy out of solar and turbine and all that, all these things are good. Move forward. Why you have to be like, I'm only on the one team and if I'm a guy that believes in using fossil fuels and producing it here in the United States, right, producing it here in the United States. Does that mean that I can't like solar at the same time? It seems ignorant to me. Okay, let's go to phone calls. Matt is in Sims and first up. Hey, Matt. Hey, man, how you doing? I'm good, man. What's up? All right. So I just jump back in my coal burning diesel, listen to your conversation about fossil fuels. So you make you got the extra thing where like you blow coal like when you leave from the stoplight, it blows like all the black smoke. It's all in if someone turns a switch on, which I'm not saying I do or don't have. I don't. I'm older, but I mean, I've had diesel since 2000s and mostly for work. I mean, the practicality is pulling trailers, you know, and you being on a farm, you know, what they do to us. So I'm not trying to patronize you. The problem with the EPA missions is just like anything else. People go too far extreme to one side and it kills the consumer. No one is going to want to spend $8,000 on a DPF filter or DPF after treatment or regen treatment for their modern diesel. And that's not an exaggerated number. Just for a filter alone can range from anywhere from three to $7,000 just for a filter. Now these things have a life expectancy in the shelf life. On the flip side, I can't stand these little kids or these punks that roll cold, like you call it, that do give everybody else a bad name and a bad image that own diesels. But at my line, my official line of work, and then my personal line of work, I use a diesel. And the biggest thing downtime with our equipment is, you know, emissions related stuff, whether it's DPF sensors or DEF, diesel is all fluid sensors, it just costs much. So in my personal line, I'll just say, and I hope the EPA's not listening, let's just say my truck moves you on the diet. So speak, you know, but it's not on the diet that makes it blow cold like the 1970 model diesel. And it makes a world of difference with efficiency. I'm just saying there's a mile extra per gallon, you know, so that's 32 extra miles and my fill up, you know, at the tank. And if I wasn't pulling it would be a little bit better. And I'm not trying to go off on a ramp. No, but I mean, who is not, who amongst us is not for deprogramming? We'll put it that way. Well, I have to have a program to do this. And thanks to my brothers and sisters from Canada for affording us the opportunity to have that programming, you know, but the reality is this, unless there needs to be vouchers for the emissions equipment for a better, there needs to be a higher, there needs to be a larger surplus of it. You go to any major dealership for Dodge Chevrolet, Freightliner, all of them, a lot of those trucks in the back part line are waiting for parts. They're waiting for the stuff. And we don't build enough of it, as far as the inventory to go through it right. And it just costs so much for the average consumer. I mean, it just really does. And it's not market driven. That's the problem. It's not market, it's government interference. It's not market driven, Sean. And it's, and it makes people like myself. And there's plenty of others listening. They know what I say. They've done the same thing. And they, and they will text in or call you if they weren't worried about something. Hey, man, he's right. This does help our rigs out. Anyway, I'm not trying to promote illegal stuff. I'm just saying the government could help by meeting folks halfway by it not caught to me $5,000 to go get an emissions piece of equipment replaced or repair and get me back on the road in less than a week time versus a month time. Well said. That's my piece. But, you know, to avoid that, I put my truck on the dot, and I ain't had a check in here. Like, come on in six months as far as that's related. So well done. Well done. What it is. I'm just being practical. It is what it is. Hey, believe me, I don't like to. There's so, I mean, I don't like to sit and wait for a regen cycle either, you know, on farm equipment. I don't like to, you know, a heck our station. I hate lugging, you know, the number of blue death boxes. How about that for the environment? How many more cardboard blue death boxes do I have to throw in the trash? Man, my buddy, one of my captains at work, he bought a new Kubota, and after a certain horsepower range, they go to the regen stuff, you know, and the last Kubota tractor I had was the last pre-death model. And that joker sold for gold, you know, because people realized, mainly mentions all world of difference when they're not having to sit through a straw and park through a straw, you know, it just kills them. But that's the practicality of it. You know it. I do indeed. I do indeed, man. I appreciate you speak the truth. Hey, thank you for the call. I appreciate that. Yeah. So it's, this is what I'm talking about too. There's a way to navigate, like Matt said, there's a way to meet halfway. And you don't have to be like, well, if you if you think, like, Matt and I both, I would agree with him that it's draconian, what's put in on diesel engines and others. Does it mean you have to hit the switch when you leave the light and blow coal, either? All right. We'll get back and get a bunch of text on this. We'll return in just a minute or two here, right after the news. On FM Talk 1065. Right. 1251 FM Talk 1065 Midday Mobile. 343 0106 for a phone call for the text line. Going through some of these texts here, I'll cut out the drone circle text for a damn textures and friends of mine out there. T-bone says, as the song says, as the song goes, my rig's a little old, but that don't mean she's slow. There's a flame from her stack and the smokes rolling black is coal. T-bone. How many days? How many days? Six? Is it six days? Yeah. We're all in on the discussion here. Let's see here. Dirt Tigger says I'm scared of battery powered vehicles because when they catch on fire, it's extra hard to put out fires. And when we get a new Bay Bridge, it might burn it down. By the time we get the new Bay Bridge, Dirt Tigger will be flying in jets and suits across the, you know, come on. But yes, the battery powered battery fires have been something. We talked about that a couple of times on the show and had people on that had to do the firefighting there. They have to spray this stuff on it that eliminates the oxygen. So the water, you can't put out these battery fires with water. They'll just restart. So you have to put, I use a scientific term. I think you all have heard me before, even when I was interviewing the person who's an expert and they described how this stuff worked, this foam they put over a battery fire for a vehicle. I said, that sounds a lot like magic shell. Remember when we were kids, that stuff you pour on the ice cream, it would, so it encapsulates the fire, eliminates the oxygen and puts out the, puts out the fire that way. I don't know how the fire didn't burn through the, I don't know how that works, but it's a thing. So Dirt Tigger, yes, I'm, I'm still, I'm still thinking electric vehicles are cool, but they've got their issues too. Michael says, blowing cold just happens when you hit the pedal and the turbos wind up happens in traffic all the time on the interstate. Okay, there's a difference there, Michael, I know what you're talking about. Okay, and Adam Texo, what do you mean by blowing cold? So there's a, like Matt and I were talking about, there's modifications. So I hear, modifications can be made on engines to let them be more efficient, diesel engines be more efficient. So blowing cold, rolling cold, people call it different. You'll see it here. It's a modification you can do to, to a diesel that lets it not have to, it doesn't burn up all the exhaust, it doesn't burn up much of the exhaust before it comes out. So you, you, you got a filter on there. I mean, there's, there's what you're talking about when somebody's just getting on it. I mean, the same thing happens on the tractor. You're really pulling hard on a, you know, a piece of equipment or a disc. You get that tractor's going to bog down for a second, that mulcher that excavated to bog down for a second. And you're going to get that darker smoke out of that diesel engine. That's the operating of the, that's a normal thing. But what I'm talking about is what you do of modification to be able to make it even look more. Like it's to show, it's like the, it's, to me, it has some analogy here to the stupid environmental, environmentalist. And I once again, I'm an environmentalist. I said stupid environmentalists that want to go deface works of art and throw crap on everything to show somehow that they're going to fix, you know, the climate or so. I don't know. And then they go ride their skateboard. So when I see those people, that doesn't, that doesn't maybe want to appreciate some discussion that they want to have a nuanced discussion about how to have clean air and clean water, which are things that I'm into. Funny, funny that about being a human who wants clean air and clean water. At this, on the flip side though, instead of, I want you to have your diesel truck, you use your diesel truck, you have your diesel truck. I'm down. Like Matt and I talk about, I'm between the station vehicle here for us, which is a diesel to farm equipment. It's a diesel to a UTV and RTV specifically, this a diesel. Believe me, a lot of the yellow cans in my world, a lot of yellow cans of diesel in my world. So I'm, I'm in it, but I don't want to try to like show off. And I mean, if I modify it, so I blow more city air out of that vehicle, not because I'm trying to get more efficiency out of it. There's a difference, but I'm going to do the full, you know, flip for rolling cold. So I blow out more, like, but I don't have to. Well, it's not even bogging down the vehicle. When people call like Prius repellent, you know, you use that to like, gonna get them. Like, it seems to be the same side. I'm for the person driving the diesel. And if it blows, it blows a little cold when you're, you know, pulling a big trailer, you're trying to get on the interstate or something, I'm got no problem. But when you're doing something, the same way you're, that the idiots are defacing something to try to show that they're, you know, to get people on their sign for environmentalism, when you go and roll, and I know the easy thing for me to do would be get on here and say, hell yeah, let's do more of that. Let's blow as much cold smoke as we can. And everything's, but it's not true. It makes no sense to try to do that. If you're trying to make a measured argument, uh, let's see here. So this one, uh, from unnamed texture, I would have a difficult time voting for Trump if he chose. This must be stuff coming in from earlier. Okay. I'm having to work through this. Chad says we went to the Alabama Trucking Association Conference a month or two ago. They were talking about how trucks have gone from having five or so sensors and now having over a hundred thanks to over regulation. If one sensor goes out, it can take a truck off the road for days until a tech is available. During COVID, they allowed the def sensor bypasses on the trucks so they can still run, but that's basically gone now. See now, Chad and Matt, now we're talking logic, right? Over regulation, so many parts so expensive to, to maintain the diesel engine. So many things you have to jump through. I know, I mean, like I said, I live with diesel engines. It's ridiculous. Like I'm on board with Alabama Trucking Association. We'll have Mark Colson from the Association back on the show soon. Like I said, my grandmother's only grandchild that didn't have a CDL and she used to look at me. She's like, what's wrong with you, boy? How are you going to work? Like the only one of her grandchildren that didn't have a CDL you're talking with right now. So trucking diesel engines. That that's what I come from. And have we over regulated this federal government? Absolutely. 100%. At the same time, though, trying to like show off, like to change opinion out there with it. To me, it's akin to going and throwing dang paint on paintings and stuff like that that, you know, trying to get people on the environmental side. I don't get it. All right. Look with this is Chris and Orange Beach. Look at what Biden administration has done in order to get a CDL license. It's ridiculous. But my remember Biden told us his story about being a long-haul trucker. Remember, he's one of us. He's just a good old boy. One of my favorite stories, you go that one here and tell you about the president back when he was up. Gosh, a young senator, maybe in the house. He rode in the semi one time and then he turned that into a story of his days as a long-haul trucker. He would get back to more rolling coal and other stories when we returned right after the news on the day mobile.