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Jeff Poor Show - Friday 6-21-24
(upbeat music) From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's The Jeff Porshow. ♪ I don't think Hank done it this way ♪ ♪ No ♪ - Good morning, and welcome to The Jeff Porshow and if we talk 106.5. Thank you for joining us on this Friday, Friday, Friday, we do appreciate you listening. Text line, this is how we communicate on this program. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. I have a little back and forth there. You could call me some kind of heathen, heathen, because I, what I think of the idea of I'm posting to take amendments at every public school classroom. I do have some reservations there. Are, we could talk about something completely different, happy to do so. Coming up on today's program from Alabama Daily News, Todd Stacey, we do that on Fridays, usually at nine o'clock hour. Coming up at 10 o'clock hour, Gary Palmer, congressman from the sixth congressional district, up in Birmingham, so you're on the stay tuned for that. Also on the program today, our returning champion is always a state senator, Chris Elliott. So please stick around for that. I guess we're having some more, the Supreme Court's finally releasing its opinions, it appears, so we're standing by. We got immunity for former presidents, obstruction charges on J-6 defendants, emergency abortion care and gun rights for domestic abusers. So as they release these decisions, I will try to give you updates here. Also, they're just hammering this judge in the Southern District of Florida, who is not really interested in playing the liberal left-wing conventional wisdom game on the Trump documents case, which there's a motion to dismiss. The argument is this, and I just want somebody who's on the legal team down there arguing this. The January 6th committee, the select committee, was it constitutional? Because they did not follow the right, they did not follow the rules. Set forth by Congress, the House of Representatives, one party rejected members that the speaker was trying to impanel on that committee. So the Republican, the minority party said no. We're not playing this game here. And so this is where it's really interesting. If it's-- I'm conflating with something. January 6th stuff is being argued with the documents. There's something different here going on. Anyway, back to what I was talking about on the January 6th committee, if this isn't a constitutional committee, then like Bannon and Navarro and all these guys are going to jail for Contipto Congress charges, are being unfairly or improperly jailed, because there's no crime there. If this is not a legitimate committee, according per House of Representatives rules, then the committee's unconstitutional. And therefore, everything that's happened is not constitutional regarding January 6th. And that Democrat led, remember? They said, you couldn't have Jim Jordan and Jim Banks on the committee. And instead Nancy Pelosi put Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. She didn't follow her own rules in the House. So anyway, there's a whole like Jack Smith angle here, whether or not he is a properly appointed special prosecutor. So we'll see. I'm sure this is Jack Smith as a special counsel that is, that he was improperly appointed by the by DOJ in the Southern District. Anyway, we'll get to more of that. Sorry, I am trying to see what these decisions are, but no one seems to be putting it up on their kyron. And we'll let you know as soon as we have that opportunity. Anyway, we will work on that here shortly. What else is going on in the news? I don't know, it's kind of a slow time in Alabama politics. The big news everyone saw by my was at Rickwood Phil last night for the Major League Baseball game, which was unfortunate. Lee timed with Willie Mays is passing. But I guess it was fortunate in that there was an opportunity to pay tribute to Willie Mays. I guess Governor Ivy was in attendance as well as Katie Brit. And Rickwood Phil looks like a cool place. What I was really young, the Barons were still playing there. And then eventually they moved out the Hoover to the Met. Now they moved back to Birmingham. But it's still a functioning ballpark. And they've tried to tear it down over the years, if you know anything about it. I mean, I know we talk about this all the time. It kind of reminds me of the like Lad People's thing. I know Lad People's is a dump. It doesn't have the cool, like, jump-o-tron you need to really enjoy a ball game. But there's a value in the historic nature of these ball parks. Now is it worth the cost just to keep up with Museum? I mean, yeah, we have that discussion. But I-- we ought to be taking a little pause here before we just automatically lay us tear down to build the best new thing. You see this in cities all the time. We went through to the 1980s, and everybody wanted to build the dome stadium. And now they're obsolete at that Astridome and the Georgia Dome. Well, that was kind of '90s. But anyway, you see what I'm saying? How long until these stadiums are obsolete that we have now? They're just-- whatever new technology comes along, they're just not made for that. But that seems to be everyone excited about that. I mean, there was a little crossover there with race, and Reggie Jackson last night talking about Birmingham in the late 1960s. He has played for then the Birmingham A's. They were a farm team for the Oakland A's. I mean, this is Post Way Post Negro League. It was Birmingham in 1967 for a binary ball player, the only black player on the team at the time, and right in the middle of all the racial strife and turmoil that Birmingham was going through. And he said it wasn't easy. We had to clip up at 1819news.com. It's always-- whatever they talk about, Birmingham in the late '60s, you didn't see that kind of strife in other parts of the state. Including Mobile. That was kind of an interesting tribute to the Negro leagues. And it's a cool venue for everyone up that way, check it out. But I think as far as Alabama goes, that's the big story Rick would field. We got still the throes of a presidential election here. I think it was interesting. We talked about the Straits of Martell yesterday. Why is all this stuff seen in Israel and there's clear divisions of the Democratic Party over that. And listen to what my colleagues at Breitbart talking about in this morning. And this is really important. The Biden administration's insisting that Israel and Netanyahu have a post the day after plan. What happens to Gaza? What Hamas is annihilated. And the Biden plan, I think, is the-- our Netanyahu's plan is this, let the Arab nations kind of govern it. But they don't like Jordan and Saudi Arabia and all this. They don't want anything to do with it. Gaza. And the Biden administration's insisting that they have a day after plan. The Israelis, that is, have a day after plan. What a mess for those guys politically. This is the right, is generally united on this idea. It's supporting Israel. If we're going to be involved in take a bit overseas or whatever. Then so be it, Israel is as probably as good as any of them. But there's real divisions in the Democratic Party. And aside from Biden's mid-to-lapses here, where he just starts walking away, there's no good messaging there. When was the last time-- what was the last time Joe Biden gave a serious policy speech? Because presidents do this from time to time. They will give-- they will, hey, OK, this is-- I'm not polling well here. The economy's bad or inflation's bad. And they did the inflation reduction act. How did that work out? But they give a speech like they'll go to the New York Business Roundtable and they'll do a big to do a bunch of TV cameras there and give a big policy speech. Maybe it's race or maybe it's whatever's playing the country at that moment. And all his big policy speeches have just been anti-Maga, anti-Trump. That's the only thing they seem to be able to get him motivated to talk about, where it looks like a scene from "Star Wars." And he's got the guards back there, and the red, and just looks very sinister. It's an appropriate time to give a-- at least give a far policy speech. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. Got a fascinating headline on Politico this morning. "Whoa!" The Friday read, by the way, "Black voters in this city could determine 2024, and it's not looking good for Biden." And this is Milwaukee. For some reason, they think they know what are in trouble in Wisconsin the Democrats do. And look, I mean, Wisconsin's a swing state right now for Trump in '16 by the '20. They don't have COVID to lead on. The rules of the game are not going to be as easy to manipulate this time, even if you think the election can be stolen. They just-- they know that this time they will not get the benefit of the doubt from the American public. I'm mailing balloting. I'll drop boxes on a truck pulling up to wherever they're counting ballots at whatever courthouse or whatever major American city. But as far as Milwaukee goes, they tried to get a play that Trump was bad-bouthed. Milwaukee didn't really stick. They set a reporter in Politico did. It turns out they're not real thrilled with Joe Biden in the African-American community of them. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. That's the text line. We'll be right back, hopefully, with some clarity on what's going on with these Supreme Court decisions. This is the Jeff Horschold. I've been talking about 0-6-5. Let's win them. [MUSIC PLAYING] A couple of guys in first class on a flight from New York to Los Angeles, kind of making small talk, killing time. Welcome back to the Jeff Horschold. If I'm talking about 1-0-6-5, thank you for listening. So it looks like the Supreme Court is upholding a ban on domestic abusers owning from owning guns. So I guess the challenge here was, what can the-- how far does the Second Amendment go? And how states will say, well, if you're found guilty of domestic violence, then you can't own a gun. And they have upheld that ban so much for the right-wing court there, huh? 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. We are awaiting other more consequential rulings, but that one's one certainly noteworthy. Good morning, Jeff, for you going to rock the country concert at the fairgrounds. In Mobile Friday, it's Saturday with Bigger Rich Kidrock. Jason, all the other video acts, many maga, I'm sure, will be there. I am going to Jackson, Mississippi, actually. I'm going to check out this softball game between the two legislatures. And it was an excuse to get to Jackson, Mississippi, a place I haven't been in. Probably about 20 years. There's no real reason to ever go to Jackson for me, but I'm going to go check that out. So no, and all the concert really looked like it would be a good-- well, it looks like a really cool event. I don't know, it's just-- we went to an eight-texture, my three-year-old, who goes to these events and does pretty well for a three-year-old. It's a miracle. We went to Luke Bryan on Saturday. Well, the concert is out right now. But he's a Luke Bryan fan. I mean, I could take you believe in some things, but I guess it's good music for three-year-olds. Better than the usual nursery rhyme stuff. Let's see what we got here. Josh, good morning. What happened with the Supreme Court ruling yesterday? I thought they were coming down. They never did. The way they were being advertised like the news, but they waited a day. We'll see what else we got here. Any texture? Serious question. What is the Republicans in Trump's plan for Gaza when this is all over? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the plan is either for Trump. He needs to answer that question. But right now, will Joe Biden be in a charge? Shouldn't he have a plan in place? Gene, let's mention Reagan amnesty program. How many were involved? Gene, why is that even relevant? You just hate listening to this show and you're like, "Oh, no, we're all getting this time." We'll go back to 1986 and simp some mausole. That'll show him. Stupid right-wing nut job. Uh, Jerry. I didn't see an advertiser with the little cowardly mayor of Mobile talking about how great the Biden administration has helped us see, really? I have not seen that. But I'll be able to look out for that, Jerry. Jerry, just be glad you don't have to live in Mobile, I guess. 2513430106, yeah, so the breaking news here is that domestic abusers, the ban on them on oning guns, stays intact. It was challenging to second amendment grounds. And I'm sure there's probably-- you know, I keep talking about this. Like, why do we-- well, who thinks this is a bad idea, right? Uh, it's a Texas, uh, it deals with a Texas that said it. Who thinks this is a bad idea, but the gut rights groups don't want to fudge on anything. They'll say it a bit because they don't give an inch. They'll take a mile. We'll be right back. This is effort talk, 106.5. Oh, yeah, try to tell me to stay away from the train line. She said that all the railroad men just drink up your blood like wine. Hey, I was country. [APPLAUSE] I was country. Yeah, I was country from my act down to all my poo. [MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome back to the Jeff Port showed. I have to talk 106.5. They just stay with us on this Friday morning, 2.5. 1, 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6. You text me and I'll do my best to respond. Whatever it is that is on your mind. So look up on the program. Gary Palmer, cut up at the top of the hour, adding station to Chris Elliott in the 11 o'clock hour. Simply stay tuned for that work. We're keeping an eye on more Supreme Court decisions here. In case you're just tuning in, the high courts upheld a ban on domestic abusers owning guns. This is like a Texas case. So we're awaiting more decisions as they come. But joining us now, we just have every Friday, he runs Alabama Daily News. He's the publisher there. He's also the host of Capitol Journal Todd Stacey. Todd, good morning, how are you? I'm great, Jeff. How are you? Doing well, dude. We'll touch on your lead here. I mean, it's not exactly a riveting time in Alabama politics right now. But the record filled a bit last night. And we can talk about it in particular. But you know, you're a guy. I mean, you're an Albertsies a ticket holder. And you kind of get like the prestige of this state. And some of our like iconic sports figures and whatnot. But like, I think we need more like reverence for like these old venues like record filled. We got one down here, kind of with a lot of people's. And I don't know what they're going to do with Legion filled and Birmingham. But I kind of like, at least for, you know, if it's 15 minutes or whatever giving their 15 minutes of fame once a year and doing stuff like this. Yeah, I thought it was awesome. I mean, this whole week has been really cool. And you know, of course, a lot of effort went into renovating and revitalizing record field. And thank goodness for that. I'm glad they didn't let it go to waste as kind of Legion filled as. But look, I mean, you got to remember, it's the nation's oldest ballpark that's still in existence, built in 1910. And, you know, yeah, we don't have a major league team. We don't have any team that plays there consistently. But it's-- there's so much history. You saw that play out on TV last night. I'm so jealous of everybody that got to go. Man, what a cool event. And there was just something special about seeing all those old ball players, right? They're in their 70s, 80s, 90s. And of course, you know, Willie Mays, we heard this week that he wasn't going to be able to attend. And then the next day, you know, he passes away. Obviously, very sad news. But what a tribute to him and all that history. How baseball here in Alabama and across the Negro leagues really changed the sport as baseball and really helped change the country, right? I mean, the integration of the major leagues was a big part of integration in America, period. And so seeing some of that play out on TV last night was just really cool, is a very positive, I think, kind of uplifting thing. And you're right, a nice, you know, spotlight for Birmingham and state of Alabama, understanding the history, understanding that how tough that history is, but how it helped the country change and become better. So yeah, I was just enthralled last night about-- and really all of this week about the Rickwood field tribute. It's kind of crazy to think about. Like the one that got me that wasn't the Negro leagues at all. It was like Reggie Jackson talking about his time as a Birmingham A. They were the farm team for the Oakland Athletics. Yeah, like Raleigh fingers and a bunch of names that maybe people would recognize. But imagine being the only black ball player on the minor league team in Birmingham, Alabama in 1967. We don't even think about that. And then, you know, like he's-- he was like the big prospect coming up. He's doing his double A time. That's how baseball works. You know, you spend a little time in the farm league before you hit the major leagues and having to like be in a guy not from Alabama, would have to be like right in the middle of all that when like the heat was really turned up to the highest. Absolutely. And I have the same reaction because, you know, A-Rod is asking him the question, right? A-Rod's like, hey, you know, isn't it nice and emotional to come back to this field? And Reggie Jackson just says, well, not really, man. Like, not in a good way. He talks about the racism that he saw. And, you know, I think what was so powerful about that is because it wasn't this like, I don't know, ideological sort of performative way people talk about racism today. You know, people kind of try to make racism like a political thing today. He was talking about his actual experience in places like Birmingham, you know, being called the inward, not being allowed to eat, not being allowed to stay. And, you know, it was really like, wow, that's crazy. To even think about, you know, wasn't that long ago. So, it was powerful for me too. It was a little bit funny because A-Rod did not expect that answer. He saw all those panelists like, wow, okay. That's real. That's really what we're talking about. But it's also, you know, proof positive of how much has changed in a good way. And the fact that everybody convened on Birmingham, Alabama, to celebrate, pay tribute to the Negro leagues and how much they changed the sport, how much they changed the country. But yeah, I mean, I encourage everybody to go watch that Reggie Jackson interview because he was, he was keeping it real, man. He was just like saying what he remembered. And I think, you know, we ought to bear that in mind when we think about how much the country has changed. - It's just the enigma that is Birmingham, Alabama and like the history. I mean, it's not, I mean, in relative to Alabama, not in Old City, they really didn't come along until after the Civil War. But they're like really, like, you kind of look at it, just all of a sudden just grows in the early 1900s. And it's the place everybody wants to be. And then it goes through the '60s. Well, everything, I don't think the '40s, '50s and '60s. But like, you know, it's, you know, whatever you think of all of this, it's just fascinating to see how Birmingham has evolved since then. - Oh, absolutely. I totally agree. We aired this documentary called, the Call of Shuttlesworth. Obviously about Fred Shuttlesworth, big civil rights leader. And I didn't realize kind of a history around the term bombing him, all the, you know, all the bombs and everything. It came from the fact that you had like the coal mines nearby and they had TNT. Like all those coal miners had access to dynamite. And that's where the bombs came from. And anytime somebody black would move to the, you know, across the tracks or the, you know, whatever the designated lines or the unofficial designated lines, they'd get their houses bombed, you know, by, you know, white supremacists basically go by the Klan. And I didn't know all that. And I really enjoyed, or just, I found it enriching and enlightening to learn all that history. But again, it all comes back to, you know, it's important to know that history and know how much has changed. And the reason why it was, the documentaries about Fred Shuttlesworth is he was a minister, he was a civil rights leader that was engaged in a lawyer, more specifically, a lawyer engaged in figuring out ways to change all that. And so, yeah, we got to know our history and things are better now, obviously. And so that's knowing that history is a big part of it. And that's why I thought this week in Rickwood Field, that was such a great, such a special moment for our state. - Yeah, well, I just, I took a lot away from it. And like, I don't know if they'll ever be able to do that again, another major league baseball game there. But they do just fill the dreams of in and they move it around, right? So we'll see, I suppose, do you have any sense of what the future has its store for Rickwood Field? (laughing) - I don't, but I, I mentioned hearing about it, but yes, 'cause, interestingly, you say field of dreams, 'cause that's kind of where it came from. They did the field of dreams of that. And, you know, some of the locals there, remember again, say, man, we've got a field of, a real field of dreams, not a movie, but a real field of dreams right here. Let's do it. And as much as I enjoyed the, the Iowa field of dreams, Kevin Costner game, I guess that was a year ago, two years ago, this was even more special, 'cause it was real, right? It wasn't a movie. It was real history. And so I hope, I hope it'll, you know, send that Birmingham and Rickwood Field as maybe a historic landmark where, you know, people wanna come and visit. - Yeah, well, I think there's a lot of interest. I mean, I grew up in Birmingham or near Birmingham, Shelby County, and like right before we moved there, just a few years, the Barons had left Rickwood Field for the Hoover Metropolitan Stadium. It was like kind of the mid 1980s there. And I was always like aware of it. The only time you would ever go to Rickwood Field or that part of town, like one time I remember going, they were filming a movie or something there. It was always like that. But it was just like a part of town you just, you never had to go to, there was, you know, no reason to unless you're going, Legion Field's nearby, you're going to Alabama game or the Iron Bowl or something, and Birmingham's others not that far away. There used to be old Birmingham International Raceway there. But like Rickwood Field, it always seemed to be forgotten. But like the fascinating thing Todd is like, the fight they had on their hands to keep the, you know, the city from just tearing it down. - Yeah, yeah, I bet I'm glad. I'm glad it survived. And you're right about Legion Field. I can't say I have great memories of Legion Steel. (laughing) Every time that I've been there, Auburn got beat, but I guess I remember a couple of state championships at the high school level at Legion Field, but I mean, it's in pretty bad shape. I wouldn't be surprised to get torn down, but, and they have, they've kind of taken little bits and pieces over the years. But yeah, I mean, football capital of the South, that was, that was what Birmingham was. And that, that's Legion Field. I know I'm very happy that we don't play the Iron Ball there anymore. That was a good change. But, you know, we ought to figure out ways to preserve our history. - Yeah, we had a good run of three games in the late '80s before they finally moved to game in '89, the Iron Ball two, Auburn. I remember those games and then I remember the '89 game. That was like a big deal. Auburn taken its game away from Legion Field. Alabama kept its games there. Probably throughout most of the 1990s, but Auburn's in the hell of this place and they left Birmingham, 'cause you never could. Auburn fans, even though they split the tickets 50-50, it was always way, way, way more Alabama fans at Legion Field. This would actually be a tough solution. Alabama's just kind of the state team. And, you know, everybody knows, like Alabama, Auburn's the little brother school in this state. It's just how it is. - Oh, yeah, I remember. And, you know, we started buying season tickets in 1990. But, as a part of the deal for Auburn to move, it's home games to Auburn. I mean, imagine that. You're gonna play your home games at your home. They had to play one more home game in 1991 at Legion Field, and I went to that game. And it was not a home game, right? Auburn was wearing blue, but it was not a home game. And that's sort of the whole point. And we got right out of the stadium. And so, yeah, it was like, this is why. This is why we don't want to play, basically, in Alabama's backyard. And it's been, I think it's been great for the rivalry. But, again, Legion Field is a special place. I hope they find a way to preserve it. And right around the corner is Birmingham Southern. I know there's talks about, you know, some HBCUs, maybe getting involved in preserving that campus as well. So, you certainly don't want to see that side of town just completely go under. Well, let's kind of look at the iron bowl. And, like, what could they have done to have kept it at Birmingham? 'Cause, like, somehow or another Jacksonville's kept that Florida Georgia game there. And then I know it took some, you know, heavy lifting to build the NFL stadium. But, like, you know, I guess they do what Texas, Oklahoma, and Dallas. But, you know, like the old, like, let's just take up the biggest venue and divide it 50-50. You know, what should a Birmingham had done at the time? Is there any way that Auburn and Pat died would not have said, "No, we're out of here"? Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, when Pat died first got to Auburn, that was the whole plan. It wasn't just, that wasn't random in '89. They've been talking about that for decades. Yeah, I mean, they're Bryant being like, "No, we're not going to move it. "Well, you're not going to be coached forever." Well, yeah. I mean, Auburn, you know, built two upper decks on its stadium. I mean, Jordan Air was by far the largest stadium in Alabama. So it's like, well, we've got even better capacity. And I mean, I think it's been a good thing for the rivalry. For the life of me, I still don't understand why Florida or why Georgia agrees to go to Jacksonville every year and play it to play Florida. Why wouldn't they just want to do a home and home? And it's also been very good for the communities of Auburn and just to lose it. I just think about the tourism and everything that comes. Those campuses have just, you know, exploded over the years. So, yeah, I don't miss Legionfield. I want to preserve it, but I don't miss it. I tell you, like Todd, and growing up, and I worked at the River Chase Galleria when I was at high school, when Alabama was in town, when Alabama was playing a game, at Legionfield, everything was just busier. The hotels were booked. There was just a whole lot more people there. And Alabama, moving back to Tuscaloosa, you just think about what that did. It just sort of decimated Birmingham like for three, four weeks a year. - Yeah. Oh, and that was actually legislation introduced to try to force the game to stay in Birmingham. And look, yeah, that's a tough break for Birmingham. Maybe they could have done something different to try to keep it, I'll keep the stadium. I don't have something like that. But again, it was never fair for Auburn folks. That's why every win at Legionfield was monumental because it was such a uphill battle. So yeah, I mean, it's tough break for Birmingham, but they're doing okay, they're back. - Oh, this remember Todd, one of the greatest moments in Auburn history there with Bo over the top. And I remember like the carrying the goal, Auburn fans carrying goalposts down Greymont Avenue after that game, at least that's like the one thing Auburn had going forward. I had to remember at Legionfield. - Absolutely. I think I was about a month old. - I was like four, five, six, six years old. So not that far behind. Hey Todd, sorry, we made it Sports Talk Friday here, but they just seemed appropriate coming after last night. Folks want to find a U in line. They want to know what you got coming up on Capitol Journal, how can they do so? - Yeah, Capitol Journal is tonight on Alabama Public Television. We're going to be talking with Hal Taylor. He's the LEA secretary talking about summer travel, how to keep safe, and also their really cool effort about rescue swimmers on the Gulf Coast. It's a really cool story about that. I was going to be talking about Juneteenth and that whole history and in Ripwood Field. Some really positive history, right? And I encourage you to watch tonight that's Capitol Journal 730 on APT. - So as always, we appreciate it. - All right, you have to be good. - All right, we got to get a break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jet4 show. All right, let's have a talk, one of the six, five. (upbeat music) ♪ My heroes have always been cowboy ♪ ♪ And they still aren't singing ♪ ♪ Sat in search of ♪ ♪ One step in my heart ♪ - Welcome back to the Jet4 show. And there's the talk, one of the six, five days, you're staying with us on this Friday morning. Gary Palmer, Congressman for Birmingham. Well, at Birmingham on today's program. Coming up here in, well, Hoover to be precise. Coming up here in just a few minutes. Text line, 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. They put a fencing around the Supreme Court in DCA. I guess their expecting riots under the Trump decision and it will be the let that loses their minds. Have they put a fencing? I don't know, they're showing live shots here. You can't really tell. Ah, Summerdale, Tony says Supreme Court decisions are done for the day. They will be resumed next Wednesday. Okay, well, you kind of watching this with the sound muted so I don't really know what's going on. I named Texture. Today you've got systemic. I would like you to elaborate on that. I named Texture. And finally, Jerry. I'm the only one who worries about the American citizens still being held hostage by the terrorist of Gaza and the preachers who were detained. I remember when the basketball person who smuggled drugs into Russia was a national security threat. And besides, look how wonderful that City has become, I guess, speaking of Birmingham. Well, I mean, they've tried, but they built a, look, a minor league football stadium there with protective life. They really was built with the idea in mind that they would host like kind of a mid-tier bowl game and you would never expect anything bigger than the USFL to play there or the UFL now. But those of you who attended Auburn and Alabama games going up to lead you to a football game, it wasn't the greatest experience. ♪ I gave you my heart ♪ ♪ And I tried to make you ♪ But almost something kind of nostalgic about it. Although Auburn has taught you to do very well there. We'll move along, 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6 stick around. This is the Jeff Porschow, what if we talk, 1-0-6-5. ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ I've thrown away the blue ♪ (upbeat music) From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porschow. ♪ I don't think I ain't done it this way ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Porschow and if we talk, 1-0-6-5, thank you very much for staying with us on this Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, morning, text slide. It wouldn't be a touch with the program, 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. That's all you need to do. You text me and I'll interact with you back and forth. Still a couple of programs, these are Chris Elliott at the 11 o'clock hour. You want to stay tuned for that? We do that every Friday, our returning champion. But joining us now, he always makes time for us down here in South Alabama, even though he's represents more of the central portion of the state from Birmingham, South, all the way down to almost to the footsteps of Montgomery, but Congressman Gary Palmer is on the line with us. Congressman, good morning, are you? - Good, how are you doing? - Living the dream as I like to say. Well, it's been a few since we've had you on, but you won your primary. You put up a good fight and here you are today. And we'll get to what I wanted to get you on about here just a moment. I just thought it was on the election cycle, heading into November, just to the south. You got a competitive congressional district, but the presidency, should we be as optimistic as things seem to be going for Trump right now? - I don't know if I would say we should be optimistic. I think we need to be focused and committed. I think that we need go to turn out that exceeds anything we've ever seen before. I know there are people out there that are concerned about the integrity of the election, but as I've pointed out, when you have, among evangelicals, 30% that don't bother to vote. And when you have across the board, people who are generally conservative in this 30, 40%, just not bothering to vote, it makes it easy to steal an election. But if people will show up, I think we can have a sweep. I think Trump will be reelected. I think we will hold the house and add seats. And I think we can, we'll take control of the Senate. So I think your optimism should come out of your effort out of how hard you're willing to work to make things happen. And I'm hoping people will take responsibility and engage and do whatever they can to make sure we win these elections. - Yeah, I just, whatever, and I don't know if this is just kind of a mirage or what, but the polling, not really. I mean, it's shifted a little sister truck trial and the convictions, but if I'm a Democrat, I am hitting a panic button. I don't know what else you can do. You can't expect Biden is capable of throwing a Hail Mary connecting and winning, being this close. I don't know, just that's, maybe that's not necessarily optimism, but it really is a head scratcher of anything. - A couple of things that, to your point, is the dynamics of this election are not going to change, Jeff. Food prices are since Biden's been in the office have gone up over 29%. And when there are a lot of families out there struggling to make ends meet, and when this young mom, buying her groceries gets her grocery bill and what's at the bottom line, she's not thinking January 6th, she's not thinking Trump conviction. And she's trying to figure out how she's gonna be able to feed her kids and have enough gas in car to get them wherever they need to go to get them to school or whatever. It's the same thing, I visited Central Alabama Food Bank and was surprised to find out that 35% of the people who are getting free groceries from them, senior citizens on fixed incomes, they can't afford their medicine, their household utilities, energy costs are up over 40%, just in the three years and five months or so that Biden has been in office and afford their groceries. So they're having to supplement their groceries through the food bank. Those things are not gonna change. The borders gonna continue to be open, we just saw yesterday 12-year-old girl was strangled to death by illegal, some illegals in Houston. That's not gonna change. And there's nothing that the Biden administration can do. They can lie to the American people like in the mainstream media's line of the American people about the inflation rate. But the inflation rate for the last month might be 4%. But cumulative, it's over 19%. Just since Biden's been in office and they're trying to blame Trump, that's just not gonna work. So we need to stay focused on the things that are impacting people's lives. And then the other thing that I'd add is I think we really need to stop talking about how diminished Biden is and his capabilities because if you remember his last state of the union, it was really a Democrat campaign speech, that he showed a lot of energy. And of course, he yelled through most of the speech, trying to convince people that he has the energy to do the job. They'll have him pumped up for the debate. And I just don't think we should lower expectations because if he can stand up straight for an hour and a half and answer a third of the questions right, he's gonna look capable. - Congressman, let me ask something else real quick. - You mentioned the January 6th committee and this idea, I mean, you've got Navarro who's already serving a, Peter Navarro already serving time in jail or prison, Steve Bannon soon to follow. But this idea that that committee was an actual committee because you guys did not get to a point who you wanted to on that committee. Then it was even constitutional. You can buy it into that argument, do you deflect? That's a good point for Republicans. What we talked about in January 6th. - Yeah, I think there are a lot of questions that need to be raised about that whether they even had the authority to issue subpoenas because they're not a committee of jurisdiction wasn't a committee that was constituted in a way that you would normally constitute a committee. I don't remember voting to empower the committee with some of the authority that they gave them. And it was orchestrated. I mean, there's no question when you look at how they brought in the ABC News crews and some things that did. This was completely orchestrated. And I think the committee that's investigating the January 6th committee led by Barry Loudermouth has put out a pretty good report, a pretty definitive report. And there's some other things that are going to come out, it's going to raise some very serious questions about this. And I just, I think that that little video that Pelosi's daughter shot of her mom is indicative too of how they were all trying to cover their rear ends on this, particularly Pelosi. Well, I mean, and that's it, right? The speaker of the House, that sort of buck stops. She could, it's not the Senate majority leader. It's all about the speaker who controls kinda the administrative part of Capitol Hill, right? - Yeah, she didn't do anything to beef up the Capitol police. We know that the District of Columbia, the Metro police from Washington, they offered to reinforce the Capitol police before anything happened. We also know that the National Guard was available and they didn't do anything. And Jeff, I saw some intelligence that about what was being planned before anything happened. They knew this weeks ahead of time. The FBI had information about some of these groups and what they were planning to do. And then nobody's given a satisfactory answer about this whole issue about the pipe bombs that were found at the Republican National Committee headquarters and the Democratic National Committee headquarters. Or even address the fact that the surveillance cameras on the Democrat headquarters somehow missed, whoever it was that came in and put the pipe bombs there. So there's just a lot of questions that need to be raised, but that's not, I think we don't need to be focused on that stuff. We need to be focused on the things that are gonna drive this election. And it's not gonna be Hunter Biden, it's not gonna be January six, it's gonna be the price of groceries, the price of energy at the gas pump or at your household utilities. And the stress and strain that is put on people, on families that are struggling to make ends meet and the border. You've got families now and their daughters are going off to college or going moving out of town to go to work. They don't want them out jogging. They don't want them going places by themselves because they're so concerned that they'll be a victim. And real quick, I'll tell you this, my staff has been looking at the crime statistics from the border patrol just on convictions. Now just convictions, not arrest or investigations. The four years that Trump was in office, there were 11 convictions for homicide or manslaughter committed by non-citizens in the three years and four months that Biden was in office, the last update was in May, it's 171. There were 431 convictions for sexual assaults in the four years Trump's in office. It's 1,270 and three years and five months of Biden. All by non-citizens and these are convictions. This by any other measure would be considered a crime wave. And I think that that's gonna be one of the things that's gonna impact how people vote. - I believe you're spot on with that. - Hey, this resolution kind of what inspired me getting you on here though. And I see it and it makes me scratch my head that this is even a point of view in this country but the anti-Semitism and it does seem centered around college campuses in America, many of which receive federal funding but you got a resolution that condemns this and that there are people backing it even financially in some ways. Talk a little bit about what you're trying to bring attention to here. - Trying to bring attention to a couple of things. One and the most important thing is, is that we're hearing words being used that go back to the 1930s in Germany. And I don't know what you know about the genocide in Rwanda in 1994. They killed a million people in a hundred days but it was all what was going on with the propaganda against the Tutsis in Rwanda similar to what the Nazis did in a propaganda against the Jews in Germany and Europe. In the 1930s, you're hearing that kind of language now. I mean, this is not just a racial thing anti-Semitism. This is extremely dangerous. And then on the funding side, we had a hearing on national and public radio and I started looking at who funds national and public radio because most time we kind of get wrapped around the axle about the federal funding that goes to the public broadcasting corporation. But the big money comes from private foundations like the MacArthur Foundation and Pritzker and Hewitt and Bill and Melinda Gates and people like that. So I started looking at what else they fund like George Soros's group, Arabella and the Tides Foundation. These are the same groups of Pritzker MacArthur that are funding the people who are training these college students to do these anti-Semitic protests. They're also funding national public radio. They're also funding Democratic candidates. Pritzker, the family, I believe that's one of the hotel chains. Pritzker is governor of Illinois. They're involved with these outside groups, start money groups that are engaging in election activity. And then MacArthur has even put up $500 million to start trying to create left-wing alternatives in local radio to compete with you. So there is a massive effort left-wing, and I believe a very dangerous effort that my conclusion is it's a massive left-wing propaganda effort funded by these radical foundations. And we need to address it. - Congressman, we're out of time unfortunately, but I do appreciate you making time for us but let's get you out again real soon. This was a good segment. - I appreciate Jeff. Thanks for having me on. - Thanks for making time for us. All right guys, we gotta get a break here. We'll be right back. - This is the Jeff Force Show at F&TALK 10065. (upbeat music) ♪ Stayed up late again watching TV with my best friend ♪ ♪ Laughing at the late night show ♪ ♪ I don't know what's wrong with me ♪ ♪ 'Cause I know I need my wrist ♪ ♪ But I don't stay about now ♪ ♪ I sleep on day ain't in my best ♪ - Welcome back to the Jeff Force Show at F&TALK 10065. They just stickin' with us on this Friday. - Morning, we're wide open now from here to the bottom of the 11 o'clock hour. So get some text in. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six if you wanna, well, whatever it is that's on your mind. Comment, complete, suggestion, compliment. You wanna tell me that I'm wrong for, I had some reservations about the 10 Commandments. That was kind of yesterday's story. The 10 Commandments at every public school cluster in Louisiana and like, yeah, how cool is it? We're finally giving the left a taste of its own medicine. How awesome is that? Oh, fine, cheer at all. I mean, I think it's gonna get struck down by the Supreme Court or some federal court in the interim, but as a believer, and you think Christianity is sacred, and scripture is sacred, is it really wise to play political games with parts of the Bible, just to stick it to the other guy. And I had some guy texting yesterday, tell me I was a pedophile for raising that point. So I did, you know what I was saying? So I did, you guys out there gotta learn to say stuff like that. Are you worshiping the 10 Commandments, or are you worshiping God? Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, dirt digger. Gun controllers is like the government and taxes, everything in this country is tax, but breathing. Gun control is, my position on the left and gun control, it's an issue they don't really want to go away. Man, I'm not saying they're actively cheering on mass shootings at all, but I'm saying this. If they really wanted to control guns, they would call for a repeal of the second amendment, but they're not willing to do that. That's what they would do. That's what they would say. They would say, hey, we don't think the gun ownership ought to be a right, it ought to be a privilege. And the left ever does that. They know it's political suicides, a kamikaze mission, but if they really believe, they really want to crack down on firearm ownership and gun deaths instead of like quote unquote, common sense of gun reform or whatever it is. They would just say, hey, we think the second amendment is just to start, you make it and get a right, just like you're right to exercise your religion, you're right to free speech, you're right to whatever, freedom of the press, is constitutional bill of rights and the interpretation of it as such. It's a right and as long as we have a second amendment in this country, these Democrats could talk about how the, they, they, they villainize the NRA and they villainize Republicans. We got to do something about these guns, but their remedies are just like what? A bump stock ban, close to gun control or to gun show loophole. I like these, these like tired like bad guns that have AR because we think it stands for assault rifle. They're just meaningless and they're dumb. Yes, I know that AR is not assault rifle. So don't text me that. 2513-430-106, you'll be right back. This is the Jeff Porsche, what F.H.I.B.T.T.T.O.C. 5. ♪ I find the law just as true as mine ♪ ♪ But not angels, sleep tight, darling ♪ ♪ Close your pretty brown eyes ♪ ♪ Look away, look away ♪ ♪ Look away, take a seat ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Oh, glory glory ♪ ♪ Hallelujah ♪ Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche Show. Let's talk about the F.H.I.B.T.T.O.C. 5. 34 minutes after the hour on this Friday, Friday. It's finally Friday morning. 2513-430-106, stay center, Chris Elliott, coming up at 11 o'clock hour. So please stay tuned for that. A day of text there, can you ask Chris Elliott, property owners at Fort Morgan will have a chance for annexation in the Gulf Shores next year. Do you know of any other developments going on in the Fort Morgan area? This like is an ongoing decades old thing here. And then it's, what is it? The majority, maybe it needs to be a referendum but my understanding of this and the texture is most people in Fort Morgan don't want to be a part of Gulf Shores. Even though Gulf Shores wants to be a part of Fort Morgan or wants it to Fort Morgan to be a part of it, you're not, you're fighting off developers. I wish I understood it a little better. I just know that it's been going on and on and on for a real long time. Now what was it after the hurricane? It felt like Fort Morgan was forgotten. Gee, please educate Palmer sources. The Jewish members of his family died in the Holocaust. Wow, Palmer thinks that Bannon is worth sacrificing his integrity for. You need a couple of things there. I don't know that Soros himself is, well, obviously he's Jewish, so he wouldn't be anti-Semitic in the way we think about it. But I do think he's very anti-Israel, anti-Israel government, anti-Net Yahoo. And I don't know that you could necessarily be anti-Israel and not be anti-Semitic. The idea that we should have a Jewish homeland, that goes back thousands of years, it's a concept, it's not new. But there's a lot of people in those circles who don't think that Israel ought to exist where it exists, that it was colonial powers, it took it away from them, Scott, good morning, Jeff, I heard Paul Feynbaum speaking highly to Mayor Mobile and how great things are going there. Grab me for a roll, but Bernie doesn't really have one to highest murder rates per capita in the country, yes, it does. It is, I literally criticize a fellow host on 106.5, but Paul Feynbaum tends to be a little left leading these days. I mean, I grew up with Paul Feynbaum, W-E-R-C, W-A-P-I. Once upon a time, Feynbaum was like he was long before shot handy or any of that. He was the guy who followed Libbon. I mean, his audience was conservative. I don't know. I think he's just kind of virtue signaling these days. And that's where the Mayor Birmingham, the praise heaped upon him. I mean, if Birmingham was so great, why didn't you figure out how to do your show in Birmingham, said to Charlotte, you do a radio show from anywhere, even if the SEC Network, which is a weird place for the SEC Network to be headquartered, is in Charlotte. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. But the Birmingham question, yeah, some parts of Birmingham are better. If you ever get a chance to go up there, I go home every now and then, and I got our headquarters, 18, 19 is there. So I spent a lot of time in downtown Birmingham a couple of times a month. There's some cool things in Birmingham. But for the most part, I mean, it's not what I would call a safe place either. You really got to be looking over your shoulders a lot. But I suppose it's true in a lot of places. They just hope for the best. Pete, it's the basis of our culture. The leftist, what it got because society collapses without it. We are seeing it now, hence the backlash. Talk about the take commandments. I'm sure that they're also like theophobes, right? They're secular. The reason the take of amets triggers the left or any, any, uh, observance of them. They, they, they, the association with biblical Christianity. Yes, it's not biblical Judaism or any of that. It is Christianity. Let's be clear here. And that they believe that governments, the higher power, the source are good in your life. So you go to church on Sunday. You should look toward the government of what the government could do to bring us all together and be one America or one world with global citizens or whatever. Is it every policy argument? And in this case, I think even. Some religious arguments, but it's, it's, it's the individual versus the collective. Did you believe that there is the pursuit of good is best achieved by the individual? Or do you believe it's best achieved through a collective effort? And we put such an America since its founding has put an emphasis on the individual. Social is a puts an emphasis on what's good for everybody. And I think government is a vehicle to get the collective the best result. And everybody has equity or equality, diversity, all of these. Inclusion. I got checked on the boxes there. Or just when people just like figured out for themselves, that you control your old destiny, that you're not trapped in sort of some kind of income strata that you can, you're economically mobile. You're, you're, you know, we don't have a caste system. And if you want to outwork your fellow man, one another, that you will achieve the ins. You're so desire. It's kind of the American dream. And you hear this all time, the American dream doesn't work for everybody. But, but just like whatever we talk about these things and you think about it, like, what is the ultimate goal? Now for a lot of leftists, it's just power. Those are the worst kind. And there's right wiggers are people that like the Mitch McConnell's who operate under the conservative banner who don't really see that as the end goal promoting conservatism or Republican ideas, it's just the pursuit of power. Nancy Pelosi, you know, the types. They're not really interested in ideology, but, but the idea logs, the, the true believers, right? You boil it down like an AOC versus. I don't know, like a Thomas Massey. AOC deep down believes the good of the collective. And we all have to work together that you can't have, have, and have nots. Did that, that spread the wealth. And the Massey is kind of the extreme example. Like he is the guy who thinks that you really do control your old destiny. That's the American ideal. You don't need to be reliant upon government or governmental agencies or whatever. And I think most of us are somewhere in the middle there. Maybe more right of center than left to center or more left to center than left. But that's sort of the opposite edge of the spectrum. And in those in the middle, they pretend to be like, Hey, yeah, I'm, I'm a team party conservative and I, but, but it's really just going through the motions and saying what they need to say to win an election, to raise campaign money. To raise campaign money to help fund like minded individuals campaign and achieve that pursuit of power sometimes. Like you could really just try to look at the political landscape from one into the other and put people in certain camps and figure them out after a while. Terry. Take Commandments of the classroom can't override the debauchery in the home. Yeah. I mean, we can't. Big society from the classroom. There's a cultural problem at home. And maybe the take commandments is like one of these government solutions. Blue Moon writes this, if you take away all the guns from Democrats, there would be no more shootings, look back on all the shootings. They're all Democrat followers. There's some of my right wingers out there that engage in some bad behavior with guns. Or at least they claim to be they identify as such. Maybe they don't have a grasp of what the ideology is. Uh, you don't find though many anti gun anti second amendment people committing mass shootings now, do you? Ma is fine. Mom works for ESPN. He probably has to lean a little left. Dirt digger. I don't want lefties to push for other religious documents to be put on the wall and young children's schools and confuse them about God and Jesus Christ. Yeah, I dirt. I think that's my problem with it. Your lives of TikTok, purple haired, uh, cisgender or whatever, whatever. They identify transgender, uh, uh, educator in a public school classroom. Even though just probably on a handful of them, but once enough, see those take commandments and tell your fifth grader that documents evil. You shouldn't believe it. They're making you put it on the wall because of, of power, hungry republicans in the Alabama legislature. Or any guess in this case, the least anti legislature, they're, they're forcing us to put it up, but it doesn't, that document doesn't say anything about transgender rights and the right to marry the person you look. I mean, like, can you see that scenario playing out? Is that that what you want? You want to mix the two? Gene, so how does the individual fit in with Christianity? Well, this is what's important. Gene, you could, you can worship in the collective sense, but you're making that decision on an individual basis. So it's participation in Christianity is a. An option participation in a socialist system is not an option. It's mandatory. So like you could try to co-opt the, the Christian message to justify a form of government, but just keep in mind a form of government is what you're stuck with. It's mandatory. Like you want to participate. You don't want to participate in state run health care too bad. Now, look, I know there's elements of socialism all throughout the American government, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, all these entitlements. But if you try to say it's Christian to believe in all that. It's not it's you have to come voluntarily to these beliefs. To whatever versus the government telling you, you must, you shall. Not if you don't want we wouldn't like it. The governments are going to say we want to like it. If you would give contraception to your employees, if you are a religious institution, that they say you must that this is how government works. Gene. Many people, the Jewish orchard or anti-Semitic soros is just like many Jews who helped out their own people into the gas chambers. Well, Terry, settle that here. Uh, soros has been on destroying the US and freedom. He would probably sacrifice his own sugar. I don't know. I think you're very, very, you got to be very careful describing motives like that. I think it's ideological. I don't think it's necessarily anti Jewish or anti Judaism. I think that he believes in this leftist sort of one world order. And he must tear down the institutions that oppose that. Like, if you really think, let's look at like in the Plato's Republic sense that you have philosopher Kings and you have the smart set who really needs to be making a decision for all the people in the world who can't help themselves. And you think that's the best pathway to good. Well, then you've got to tear down institutions like the United States of America, because that's what stands in the way of you achieving your good. Yeah, you know, that, that the individual, they're not capable of taking care of themselves. What are you crazy? So like the sorrows of those guys. That's what I think when you look at it, it's not like they just sit around and let's think of evil things to do all day to Americans, but they, they really think that they are a force for good and that you must show the American system. You must flood the media matters. And you must challenge these concerned with the morphodoxies on a regular basis if you want to achieve what you're trying to achieve to make the world a better place. It's convoluted. It's crazy, but that's the way they operate. Text line 2513430106 will be right back. This is the chapter or show it. If I'm talking about 065. The news, whether and traffic you need, you need the talk you want, you want. And the sports you love, you love. This is FM Talk, FM Talk, 1065, 1065. Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show. I've been talking about 065. Thanks for staying with us on this Friday morning. Stay center. Crystal, it comes up in the next hour wide open till the bottom of the next hour. So I got a ton of text here, a trigger point here for a lot of people already when they put the ticket payments in schools in Muslim, Buddhist, satanic symbols will soon follow from illegal standpoint, interpretation. The difference here is though, the reason why there is a more of a deferential to the 10 commandments is because they do they are a historic document in the founding of the country. There is a lineage from our current former government back to the 10 commandments. So it's not just a, a, a, a, solely a religious text in that sense. But as a guy, as a believer, you know, I like the way they've done it always. Put them in a hallway, try, try to keep it in context. I mean, if you're going to put the take amendments to the right, the right question would be this, if we're going to require to take amendments in every classroom, why not require the constitution posted every, a classroom? Why not require the declaration of independence posted every classroom? Well, why not the magnet car? Why not all these documents that we put in that same category of just, just from the, the, the foundation of our system of laws, like why are we singling out only the 10 commandments? Joel, you don't know what you're saying. I know exactly what I'm saying. Uh, Pat, I feel like I speak for a lot of people by age 25 to 40 that we cannot wait for these old bastards running our country to die out so we can eventually fix the country. This isn't the greatest generation of America anymore. Uh, I'm not that far. I don't know. I, I, I'm like in a good mix. I don't believe this nonsense that we need young people in office, but just just by virtue of them being young. Uh, Mr. Plot, dessert by right to pursuit of happiness, include my doesn't my right, I assume, uh, to the pursuit of happiness and include my right to put on a dress and be called Cindy if I want, but now someone causing me physical harm because of it. Just wondering. Seems like everything can be covered if you just do how to apply the amendments. Not sure what you're trying to communicate there. Finally, Jerry, I says, they, uh, it's it to put up a Muslim commandments. Perhaps the left can be educated on the history of the slave trade and how Muhammad was a slave owner and trader. It could be a great teaching moment. Pat, these fools are having strokes and zoning out on age 40 years in office too long, but, but like Pat, here's the thing. Like we, we have a system where you can vote on whoever you want. And decide that I'm always like questioned this idea of term limits because term limits are built in. We just vote them out. Well, they raise all the money. Well, look, you as a voter, you put the onus on the voter, not the politician to vote these guys at all. But if you don't like them and it, you know, you have to work for it. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, you'll be right back. This is effing talk. One of six, five. Now, if you're leather jagged means to you what this hat means to me. Then I get from bucks pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche show. I don't think this way. No, welcome back to the Jeff Porsche show it up and talk below six, five. Thank you very much for listening and this Friday, Friday, finally, Friday. Born at hour number three now underway, six minutes after the hour. Text line, how you communicate with the program. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Looks like the one big Supreme Court case out today. The upholding a ban on domestic abusers, owning guns, the court decidedly. Really, one dissent was Clarence Thomas, but the other justices all going along with the majority here upholding a ban on domestic abusers owning but God saying that at least it's insinuating and this is the way a lot of. The, um, the Democrat politicians are using it, uh, see, even the right wing Trump Supreme Court doesn't think that the Second Amendment is absolute. I, I, okay. This is the system we have and these are the rules we live under. Still, uh, eager to see some of this January six. Um, drama fold out what it pertains to the high court. A text line, you want me to touch with the show. You got a text to be two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. It will respond to whatever it is on your mind. Uh, silicone, stay center, Chris Elliott there at the bottom of the hour. So please stay tuned for that. Um, let me talk about the, the take commandments and Louisiana and I just, my word of caution and we'll move on after this is don't make the take commandments and idle. Remember what you worship not the symbolism, not the reverence for that's where as far as Christianity goes, it gets problematic. But just from a legal standpoint, I mean, the, the, the ruling is, or the, the understanding is reason why the take commandments are allowed to be displayed in public places is that they, there is an avenue. You could direct the delineate from our system of government to the take commandments, historically in a historic sense. If that's the case, why separate the religion from the secular here for a moment and look at it from a secular point of view, which is the justification. Why aren't the other founding documents posted in every classroom in Louisiana? All it takes is just one purple hair, crazy teacher lives a TikTok famous to salary your child's opinion on the 10 commandments. They probably are anyway, but in the wrong hands and used in the wrong way. That's the problem. Um, other things going on, uh, kind of slow here in Alabama, Greg Albritton, uh, at the battleship yesterday, there was an event the governor Ivy was there was asked about gambling and gambling coming back. Albritton's an interesting player in all this. I mean, uh, these state senators want to blame Lance Bell and Chris Elliott. The, the pro gambling ones. But it really was Greg Albritton. I think they kept gambling from happening this last session. And he had his reasons, uh, his constituents. He's put this constituents first, even if they are to porch Creek Indians. And I know you're like, ah, and the porch. Green stuff, but they are, they are citizens. Now they operate obviously a little differently in the eyes of the law. But they're still part of the state. And he represents them. And, uh, he's doing what he was elected to do there as a state senator. But, uh, he was the one I think to kind of, you know, he was on the conference committee voted for a gambling package coming out of conference committee. It's the fouries and no vote. I drama guys. Uh, anyway, he says that he thinks it will the fight will go on the show. We'll go on. He went really definitive in the story from Erica Thomas in 18, 19 news, 18, 19 news dot com about when or where or how that would look, but I would anticipate. He's going to continue the fight. Um, also kind of an interesting story back to the 18, 19 beat here. If you go back to redistricting in, uh, the 20 was that had to be 22, 23, whatever. Yeah, we had the redistricting special session. After the courts rejected Alabama's maps. Remember the three judge panel is a hearing yesterday up in Birmingham. Federal court. And this was a real kind of kerfuffle during the. During that special session, um, the house pro tem. Chris Pringle, who was the chairman of reapportionment at the time for the house. Uh, they had all their work done. They had their maps ready to go. They walk in and then his counterpart, assistant McLendon had left to retire. Steve Livingston's now his counterpart in the Senate says, no, we're not going to do this. We're, we're, we're, you know, his members were like, no. So NAACP is now only correspondence between state lawmakers and a political consultant. I know pretty well, Chris Brown. He's a Birmingham guy, uh, love him or hate him. And I, this, this is like a fishing expedition almost that. Brown and his clients, but the NAACP seeks their correspondence as it pertains to the state Senate districts. Say, uh, yes, I suppose I'm kind of conflating these because the, the redistricting was all about Congress, the second go around, the first go around was the state Senate and state house districts. Those are being challenged to, by the way, in the sense that the, the black voting age population is undermined in some way. So I'm curious to see where this is going to go, but they got some text messages, some back and forth here in this Milligan versus Alabama, Alabama versus Milligan case. And it leads to me like, here's what, here's what we're building up to, some kind of embarrassing conversation between a lawmaker and a, and this political consultant. And we'll see if the judge allows it. Now the judge of the court in this state has said, no, remember they tried to subpoena conversations that Eagle Forum had with lawmakers about the VCAP bill, the, the, the ban on hormone therapy, taking this lobbying activist group and it's lobbying on behalf of constituents and then they said, well, they had an influence in the department of justice, Sue's, Alabama, and they demand this correspondence and the judge throws that out, throws that subpoena out. Seems a little bit like that. Oh, see here, dirt nigger. They need to put a poster, Joe Biden, an elementary school classroom. So they can say this old man, his name is Biden. He sold our country out just to pay the money to my son Hunter. Terry, where are the 603 commandments? Pat, I wonder if Albright would have voted differently if he would have gotten the nod. Is it a Carolyn Dotson, who he writes as Caroline Dalsen, Carolyn Dobson. I don't think so. Albright, very fascinating character in all this. He's kind of got, I mean, he's general fund chairman. So there's a lot of power in that. Didn't really have a strong showing losing, not making a run off in that race. It was sort of a three way race, but he Dick Burrobaker, Carolyn Dobson, Dobson coming out. The upstart out of nothing and was able to win the nomination. And he won that nod. I mean, is he taking much heat for it? Doesn't you who live in his state Senate district? I know we got a few of you listening. What is your, what is your feeling about Senator Albright? Because I mean, he's been, he comes on this show. He's, he's been very good to this show and very good to me over the years. But now that his district's more and more of Baldwin County, do you want to see a Baldwin County guy? Do you want to see somebody different in that Senate seat? It's hard, it's hard to knock off a budget committee chairman. But does this gambling situation make him a vulnerable Republican in a primary in 2026? That was our talk about that. Um, lots of rumors out there about who might run against him and then that primary. We're going to have to wait and see, I think how 24 goes. But once we know and have some clarity after the 2024 cycle, watch everything, start to come into motion for the state politics of 26 and that cycle. Because like, you know, like maybe members of the legislature or members of the executive branch, go to work for the Trump administration. Are they, you know, there will be some shuffling there? Oh, Pat, I don't know if he would have voted different. Um, if he had been to nominee, I think the, it was really up to the porch, Creek Indians, and they, they, when they did not get the gambling facility, the casino up in North Alabama and Jackson County, it was either going to be Jackson or DeKalb County. It was going to be perfectly situated there to draw from Chattanooga, Nashville, Atlanta, Huntsville, Birmingham. When they did not get that, that's when PCI said no, and they took the voter wave. Jerry, I work at this district and I feel like he's a good guy, referring to Albritton. Um, same, but there are some rumblings out there about him. I don't know who could beat him. I really don't. You're not going to get somebody from his part of the county because all the people, both of them, his voters are a little further south. He's going to be strong and obviously in this game, be a county. And he gets like other parts of the, he's in Mobile now, Mobile County. Monroe, 2513430106, but that's way, way off of the distance. But that, and he's come up in this gambling discussion, he's worth mentioning. Let's get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show. What if I'm talking, 106-5? Affordable dentures and implants, practices in the Mobile and Pensacola area make new smiles affordable every day. So you don't need to wait another day to get your smile back. Visit us in Mobile or Pensacola, call 1-800-DENTURE. Affordable dentures and implants. Going back to the Jeff Moore show. What if I'm talking, 106-5? They should stay with us on this Friday, Friday, finally Friday. Chris Elliott, stay senator from Josephine. That's the lower portion of all the county joining us here in just a few minutes. In the meantime, programming note, come up on Monday's show. We got Jennifer Fiddler, state representative from Silver Hill by state representative. And Dale Jackson, WV, Ed. You all have your news and one other guest to be named later working on that as we speak. Guest list coming together for the entire week next week. Pretty, pretty solidly. So hopefully heading into that 4th of July week will have a good week for you. So please make sure you tune in next week. But Chris Elliott coming up here just a little bit. Pete, Senator Albert is a unsung hero. He does a lot of heavy lifting on the budget behind the scenes and not for him, South Alabama will get nothing. He really is the most prominent Republican in South Alabama, but the power in Alabama and state government, I'm not just talking about the legislature. The entire state government is shipped to North. The House, the Speaker of the House is the North Alabama guy, Nathaniel Edbetter. The Pro Tem, Greg Reed, who will be on next week as well. North Jasper, North, yes, Alabama, not quite Walker County. But there's obviously the rumor there that he may run for Lieutenant Governor who would be the next Pro Tem of the Alabama state Senate. And you look, it's going to be in North Alabama guy. That's the only way. The Budget Chair, Arthur Orr, running this program. He's Decatur, that's certainly North Alabama. The State House, Majority Leader. Our buddy Scott Stadhagen from Marshall, North Alabama. So the legislature, yes, you start looking at executive branch. Will Ainsworth, yes. Steve Marshall, yes, both from Marshall County. Will you look at, you go Secretary of State, Wes Allen, not really, Tuscaloosa/Troy, Pike County. One of those guys with friends and neighbors, politics all over the state. A little further down, Andrew Sorrell, the state auditor, yes. And then Governor Ivy, when I talked to these people in North Alabama, we have these arguments all the time about the geographic shift of power. Well, y'all got Governor Ivy, she's from South Alabama. As of Willcox County is part of South Alabama. I would say it's probably more South than North, but we don't think of it in, you know, not even Wiregrass. But yeah, you're right, Albert is the most prominent. You used to have Steve Klaus, the Wiregrass, but when he ran against a speaker led better, for the speaker's job, that was sort of the spoils of war there. And Ledbetter gave the General Fund chairmanship in the house to Rex Reynolds, North Alabama guy, Madison County. Rusty Glover explains that you draw a light through the center of Alabama, right down the middle, there are just more Republicans in the north part of the state than in our south part of the state. And our geographic allegiances, that's just politics for you. Toothless Bummer. Merrick Garland doesn't release Biden or her audio, and then D.O. Jason's, we can do whatever anything we want. No consequences yet. Steve Bannon may go to prison for the same thing. Continues Biden bragged about taking classifieds to his ghost right or nothing has happened, even after he tried to destroy files. Why is it this guy hauled before Congress? Republicans dropped the ball. Meanwhile, Bragg drops charges against Columbia students who are at students. Yeah, this is an asymmetrical D.O.J. Um, when it comes to like Jim Jordan on the oversight committee, our house judiciary and James Comer on the oversight committee, and issuing subpoenas and bringing these people before Congress, how much does that really move them the needle? I don't think these congressional committees have ever met that much. And the best one I can offer you, big, gauzy, tray, galley. We still don't know what happened there. We'll be right back. This is FIT Talk 1065. ♪ More than I could chew ♪ ♪ But it threw it all ♪ ♪ When there was no ♪ ♪ Like a rhinestong cowboy ♪ ♪ Riding down on a horse set of stars playing the rodeo ♪ ♪ Like a rhinestong cowboy ♪ Welcome back to the Jump 4 Show of the Talk 4065. Thanks for staying with us on this Friday morning. We do appreciate it. 34 minutes after the hour. Joining us now, we do this every week. Our returning champion, St. Senator Chris Elliott. Donald Bluetooth, I have told. Good morning, Senator. How are you? I am doing just fine. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, so I'm not going to ask you to be obligatory. Oh, I've recovered from the session. It seems like every lawmaker I've owned. That's kind of my go-to kick it off, boy, dear. Instead, he brought this up at a couple of weeks ago at the Republican Women Eastern Shore over here in Fair Hope. And what we're talking about, it doesn't seem like a big, big thing, but it's a pretty big deal, at least for our part of the state. Getting the lead of the resources they need for that helicopter. And I mean, how many times over the past five, six years that we hear? Someone goes missing. There's an undertow or whatever. And now you've got to have a little more airtime for these helicopters to perform these searches. Yeah, we are. And not even really just a search shift, but a patrol. And to keep that helicopter in the air as much as possible. Because when it's up and when it has the resources on board, the lifeguards from Gulf Shores and Orange Beach, they're able to deploy in a mere minutes and do so well. So just give your listeners a little bit of background. Aaliyah is operating their helicopter, interestingly enough out of Fair Hope, but then it stations for the day down at Gulf Shores. And yesterday, we had them down along with the folks from Orange Beach and Gulf Shores and their beach rescue teams there. Give an example of what they do and how they do it. And those light guards fly with Aaliyah. So you've got municipal lifeguards and estate helicopters. The state does a good job, you know, flying the helicopter, but they're not getting into the water and don't need to. And these lifeguards are excellent at getting into the water. Don't need to be flying helicopters. So we were able to get some additional state funding for the helicopter, essentially gas money to fly up and down the beach on a regular basis. And having that chopper in the air about a hundred days a year, we had weather days, riptide days based on surf forecasts. And then, of course, the lifeguards are telling me, they're scheduling this thing based on data from the convention and visitors bureau down here, the CBB. And when we're going to have the most folks on the beach along with bad weather, so that we can have the chopper up in there and able to assist almost immediately when somebody gets a distress. I've never realized that. Just, I guess it's more expensive than we realize how it is much it is to operate helicopter. Well, the Jeff Seals one thing, but the maintenance on the helicopter, I mean, it's almost a per hour set aside that you need to do. And so, I mean, we're really only talking about just under half a million dollars here, but that can provide a huge amount of protection for a fairly low cost. I mean, when you start talking about lifeguards, their UTVs, they ride up and down the beach on the lifeguard stands, boats, jet skis, all these different things we've employed, they cover a particular area, but the helicopter is able to cover a huge area, including Fort Morgan, which has been historically tough to cover from a guard standpoint, just because there's not any municipality there. It's all county. This works really well. And it's great that the sheriff's office and in conjunction with the Orange Beach and Gulf Coast lifeguard, the municipalities are willing to let their guards fly on this helicopter and help somebody to distress in Fort Morgan. And it will save lives, including lives of our first responders who go in after these folks, just over three years ago, Deputy Bill Smith was killed in Fort Morgan, that in Fort Morgan, during a rescue, trying to rescue somebody that was in distress. And I would like to think that as this helicopter was available in the air, we would not have lost that deputy's lives. Senator, speaking of Fort Morgan and a couple of text questions here, not too painful, I hope, but this Fort Morgan saga, in legislation coming back, trying to figure out, is it going to be part of Gulf shores or not? We're going to be dealing with this until it happens, or if it ever does happen, it will still be dealing with it, it seems like, but where does that stand right now? I met with the executive committee of the Fort Morgan Homeowners Association about a week and a half ago, and I told them, and I do not think that there's any appetite to bring any annexation legislation back. There was such a visceral response to the annexation or potential annexation of only about eight different property owners, property down there, that the legislature delegation just does not, I think, have appetite to deal with that again. And what I do think you will continue to see is a push and pull between the residents of Fort Morgan, the full-time residents of Fort Morgan, and their desire for services from the City of Gulf shores, and whether that's now the new school and school system there, or whether that's, you know, public safety services as well. And so you may see other attempts at annexation that are outside of what the legislature can do, and that will, you know, either be continuous annexation or a referendum, you know, by the people in Fort Morgan to annex into Gulf shores, and that will be a vote of the people that's about as pure as our republic gets as far as democracy goes. I mean, you vote for it in the will of the folks in that particular area carry the day. And so you may see something like that in the coming years, but I do not believe certainly not for the rest of the squadron, even that you're going to see any legislative annexations moving forward. Just set yourself up here. You know what's going to happen. Why did the people write the vote on the lottery? Oh, anyway, another question here, maybe you understand the bureaucracy here of this, with the state taking over the ball of beach express and the fully beach express there, and it's going to be signed 161. When they did that to 181, it took it from county row 27 to 181. They had to give up state road and then going to what was the bayonet road there, and change the number and make it a county road is something like that. Gotta happen here with that. You know, my understanding, and I'm not sure I'm fully understanding what you're saying there, but my understanding is it will all be a state road now, from all the way down. I guess the question is, when you get a new state road, you have to give up a state road somewhere else. If that makes sense. You know, I'm not sure, and since 161 is an existing state road, it's just a continuation of that. Maybe you're not giving one up somewhere else, I think I understand more, but it's just a continuation of an existing route. Yeah, so that's the one that came across there, but that's going to be under state operation. They're going to do the maintenance now, and I know they're working on it right now, probably as we speak. There's a lot of things that gotta be done to that road to get it up to standard, right? Well, there are. It needs to be widened in areas. The shelters need to be paved in areas to get it up to standard. And the important thing, when the county built that road, and it's important for folks to know the city of follow, we have the county constructed that road, purchased the right away, made it happen. But it will have to come up standard to me, state standards, and it doesn't require that much effort. But the good thing is, that means that the burden on the city and the county to maintain that road, which is the only four lane divided highway in the county's inventory, or was, will go away. And that means that the state will be responsible for that. So, that's a huge burden off of Baldwin County taxpayers from the county commission state courts, and not have to maintain that road anymore. I mean, Jeff, I remember when I was on the commission, we had a fleet of tractors and bushels that did nothing but mow the foliage express, and the ball would be to express it started one end and started mowing. And as soon as I got the other end, they turned around with the other way. Just just as an example of how nice it will be to have the state maintaining that from a cost to employ to the county. The back to this, though, the traffic now that the toll's gone. Are we seeing any any improvement there? Is that living up to its billing? You know, how that said that, that on, you know, the holiday weekend, they saw a 25% increase over last year's holiday weekend. And I think that's an interesting point in time, you know, shot there. But I think that once the now the toll plazas are gone, I went through it yesterday. They were still resurfacing a little bit where they, you know, where they scarred up the road where they tore up the toll plazas. But, but I think once that all gets evened out painted and we get settled down, we'll be able to do some comparisons that are a little bit more accurate and have more fidelity to them. And we'll look at that counts, you know, before and after. It stands to reason that volume will increase now that the toll is gone. And and that's a good thing. The question is, how much does freeze? And does it really move traffic off of the homes bridge, the 59 bridge in the Gulf Shores, which was the stated goal? And then you can start doing, you know, start asking questions about, okay, you know, did we move 10% of traffic, 30% of traffic, and what did that cost and what you do that analysis after the fact? You know, I never saw a traffic study going in to this whole thing that indicated that there was going to be a demonstrable difference in traffic on the 59 bridge. But, you know, here we are. And the best way to test it is a real world and we're going to have an opportunity to do that. And we'll see if this was a if this was effective or not. Well, here, here's the question now. I think a lot of people go into the beach. Maybe they don't keep up with the news. Maybe they're not aware that the toll is gone. And some of the traffic is not being diverted over to the beach expresses. I mean, is that entirely possible? Because I mean, I don't know, it's not like there's signs posted, hey, why don't you try this way? There's no toll here now, right? I actually saw a message board on my 10 almost down by Daphne that indicated that, hey, there's no toll on the beach express anymore. So I think Alvat is trying a message that there isn't a toll anymore. And I do think over time, you know, certainly that message will get out. You know, travelers are fairly savvy nowadays. And I think they'll figure it out pretty quickly. The real interesting thing is going to be, you know, once this new bridge is completed and all connected back to the beach express, what does that traffic pattern look like? How affected is that in moving traffic locally in that area? And then also diverting it off of the 69 bridge. They have done no studies or impact on this. I have they. Jeff, I have heard that they've done studies. They have talked about doing stuff I had never seen. And I have asked for studies. I think this was more of a guess than using real empirical data. I could be wrong. I just know I've asked for the studies and I certainly haven't seen them. So there's no point doing a study right now. We're going to have a real world. Example, if you build it, will they come type of scenario because we're building it? Well, I mean, is there any concern about that? I mean, in theory, I mean, you know, this county pretty well, that seems like it could work. I don't know. It does seem like a little out of the way. But then again, I mean, maybe it beats the traffic. Well, listen, you know, any any new infrastructure is good from where I sit and having 200 million dollars worth of additional infrastructure, state funded infrastructure in, you know, in my district is a good thing. And I'm happy that it's there. The details of that get a little stickier. And so we're going to have to see what happens with our local traffic and how does it impact local developments? You know, for years and years, we were hoping that someone would buy the old defunct Bama Bayou, you know, there on the left side of the toll bridge as you came into Orange Beach. And so the owner of the war far far is purchased that and is, you know, on the cusp of trying to develop that or redevelop that making that a shining star. The problem is, as Alba has it laid out right now, you will see it when you're leaving, Orange Beach, not when you're coming to Orange Beach because, you know, Alba's plan is to put all the southbound traffic on the new bridge back to the west of the toll bridge. And so I know there are all kinds of developments going on between the airport and the canal in Gulf Shores. There's probably a billion dollars worth of new development going on there that is going to be very dependent on the local traffic patterns to get in and out of those neighborhoods and commercial, you know, retail facilities there. And those need to be taken into account too. It's not just moving people to the beach. There are actual human beings and taxpayers that live here too, and they need to get around as well. And this question gets from John, why did they just simply widen the toll bridge instead of building a new road to bridge? And it's really because they decided to start the new bridge. And to your listener, that was very much on the table. The toll company offered to do just that. They offered you to build that another span at their cost and make all the tolls go away for Baldwin County residents, all Baldwin County residents. And they could have used all of the existing infrastructure there. The caveat was they wanted a moratorium on the state building a new bridge nearby. And that was not acceptable to the state. So to your listener's question there, there was an option. And that's not the way that our governor and our elder are decided to go. I mean, like, what if we knew then what we knew now, you know, like, how different would this discussion have been? And I know you and I have talked about this ad nauseam, Senator, but, you know, this is just kind of just making up as we go long approach. It could come back to Hine, Baldwin County. Well, I think that the way that local traffic flows is going to be of concern for my constituents. I think that either way this goes, it's a good way to get visitors on and off the island quickly. I just have got to make sure that my constituents and the investors in these, you know, again, these huge developments and investments that are happening here, that our local communities are encouraging very much, but it goes towards an orange feature, encouraging these developments to take place. That getting in and out of those developments makes sense and is safe and workable. You should not have to leave one, go north to then go west to then go south to then go east to get back to the other side of it. That's not a decision flow traffic. And I think there's some relatively simple options to make that happen. It's just getting the folks in Montgomery sometimes to listen to that can be a challenge. I got you. Senator got to leave it there. We're out of time, but always appreciate your time and let's talk again soon. Thanks for having me on. Y'all enjoy this beautiful weather. We're having this with you. State Senator Chris Elliott, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back. This is up in talk one of six five. He said this is where you get off boy because I'm going back to Alabama. As I stepped out of that Cadillac, I said, "Mr. Many Things." He said, "You don't have to call me Mr. Mr. The whole world called me high." Welcome back to the Jet Force Show. What up? What up? Six five. Thanks for staying with us. I'll listen to this Friday morning. A couple of texts you get to here. 98 needs to be widened. This is unnamed textural. 98's a big road. Where that doesn't need to be widened. I assume you can't really widen it from Fair Hope to well maybe down to the turn there in Barnwell, but you know, going continuing east. Do you widen it fully? You got to get over the Fish River there, Weeks Bay, probably not going to be widened there and then beyond. There's the thing about Ballwood County, just to give us a big grid, there's about 100 different ways you could go throughout the county. Ah, Summerdale, Tony. So they're going to be tough going south because you're merging two lanes into one lane, but when you're heading north from the bridge, you're merging one lane into two. So Southbound traffic will still be tied up a bit, but with no toll prizes, it's going to cut down on the time you wait. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with that. I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe not in the next 20 years, there will be a second span there. I still want the old Wolf Bay bridge. I think that's where you really make and whatever I bring it up to Ken in or Elliot or anybody else, they're so like, oh, it's just probably not going to happen. But aren't speeches kind of landlocked? To some degree, that opens up a lot of possibilities there. We had more text. Now that should do it. Coming up shortly, you get Midday Mobile, Sean Sullivan from the West Mobile Bureau. So no handoff here, but he'll be joining you in just a matter of moments. Going up Monday on the program, we got Stairms of Jennifer Fiddler, my state lawmaker, and we'll hear from Dale Jackson, WVNN and Yella Hemmer news who I am told was also had Senator Elliot on his program today. Real riveting here, Dale does the free for all fun question of Friday free. I don't know, it sounds like some kind of FM radio sex, drugs and rock and roll morning show gimmick of that nature, but Elliot got the Dale Jackson treatment today. We'll see how that will. We talked to Dale on Monday. We'll see how that went. I'll be riveting. And another guest to be named later is always when you want to find out who's on the program. I typically post our guest list of social media, Twitter, now x, twitter.com/chief_poor are on the Facebook page, the DJF4 show. So I'll check that out. Give me a like if you get time. In the meantime, I have got to get out of here. It has been a pleasure. I promise to try to do better on Monday. Sorry, Phillips. I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Jeff or show on F&Tock 1065. [Music]