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Mariah May's Turn, WWE Signs Stephanie Vaquer, John Cena Farewell Tour | Grapsody 7/13/24

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It's a new episode of Grapsody with Phil Lindsey (@PhilDL616) & Righteous Reg (@RighteousReg)! Join them as they discuss Mariah May & Bryan Danielson winning the Owen Hart Memorial Cup Tournament, John Cena's retirement and farewell tour, Stephanie Vaquer heading to the WWE, & more.


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I'm good, it does really feel like Rap is back, I feel like the, finally man, it feels like all of the rap stuff and earlier this year, that was like a big talking point, you see people actually talking about rap mainstream in a good way, and then the music is hidden. Like the common album is very, very good, I haven't finished all of it, but very, very good album. I've heard good things about them in their album, I haven't listened to yet. Yeah, the common album, I love records that put you in that space, that mood, that feeling, and this record puts you right there, like it's a righteous red record for sure, boom, bath is hell, it's summary vibes, Pete Rock destroyed it on the production, common is common, it's exactly what you expect, and I'm so excited that they got together and did that, really dope album. The Eminem album, I haven't heard it in full, but I have heard some tracks, and yeah, here, I argue with people. I want to do this. It's Eminem, it's better than, it's not rap God Eminem, he's not doing a gazillion words, he is rapping coherently, he is straight to the point, he is getting a double time flow. I mean, of course, he's doing the double time flow, but not excessively like he used to do, but it's just like, I get it, Phil, like Eminem, one of the greatest of all time, like everybody says, dude can rap technically, there's not a lot of people in rap history that rap better than this guy, but like the content, I just can't get behind, I understand what you're saying, like I get it, and cancel culture is prevalent, but ain't nobody trying to cancel you, I feel at this point, like all your fans love you, they go to war for you, they fight and all this, and like it seems like there's those like stand-up comedians that are like, we can't do comedy anymore, can't blah, blah, blah, do this, but they talk more about that than just doing the comedy, just do the comedy or just do it, whatever you're talking about, why are you spending so much time saying, you guys are trying to cancel me, you guys can't do, I can't say this, I can't do this, that's what it feels like, you know? Yeah, I feel like this kind of appointed album of him like making a point of I could make a Slim Shady album the way I did early in my career today, and this is my attempt at doing it, at least that's what seems like the kind of stuff of it is, I'm of course judging just based off of what I've read about that, whatever I haven't actually heard about, but yeah, I'll give it a shot, I haven't heard it though, but I listened to that, for some reason, well actually I know the reason because I watched Genius, I went down this rabbit hole and I was reading all this stuff about Kanye, and I remember people kept telling me, man, out of all the albums after Pablo, because that was my cutoff point with Kanye, I was like, Pablo's it, people were like, yeah, Kitzy Ghost is one of the best albums out there, so I listened to it, I was like, all right, maybe I need to listen to it again, but I did, and I'll listen to it again, and I was like, okay, so I don't do, because I've been hearing that I'm in the same boat that you are, like I stopped after Pablo and everybody's like, Kitzy Ghost though is the one, blah blah blah, and I'm just saying, I hear you, so it's, I'm in the right lane of being like, I'm chill on it, it's okay, maybe I missed the hype of it, but it's all right, because it was a moment when it happened, when it came out everybody was like, ah Kitzy Ghost, but I was already in that like, Kanye, I just can't, I think it was just people were finally excited that him and Cuddy did the album together, they teamed up with Maracami, and Maracami did the album cover, so it all felt kind of like special and nostalgic, but the music itself, I was sitting there like, this is cool, again content, there's something like, you can be the best rapper in the world, but if the content doesn't match, then it just doesn't, it doesn't do it for me, it's like wrestling. The very first song on the album, I was laughing because it seems like it's going in a certain direction, and then all of a sudden we get, Kanye making all these gun noises out of nowhere, I was like, huh? And then we get a really good push of T first, I was like, okay, but like, there are bits of it where the Kanye stuff, I'm like, this isn't, like, this just isn't Kanye at his peak, this isn't like, Kanye rapping, rapping in my opinion, but it's cool. Nice to know you guys. It was fun. It's cool, uh, yeah, I listened to a lot of little Bay album over the weekend, and I still think that's how many years for me. Yeah, when you, uh, when you listen to rap at that level, and kind of effortlessly at that level, it's hard to top. Like that's still my, like, when I get into the car, the first album that I'm playing is that loop A, and it's just like, keeps getting better, it keeps getting, uh, uh, timely air and like, damn, loop A really did, it's becoming one of my favorite loop A albums, honestly. Yeah. Uh, the hip hop news last week, uh, right after we got off the podcast, uh, Metro Bowman and Cody Rhodes, uh, dropped a teaser trailer for Bad Blood, which is coming back. Um, October 5th, I believe, October 5th in Atlanta, Georgia. Um, I thought the teaser and the image they put out were dope. Um, I, I chuckle every time we do something on this podcast where we talk about rap a lot, and I'll see certain people like, well, I don't talk about rap a lot. And then somebody will do, a wrestler or somebody will do something with the rapper. And I'll just be like, yeah, maybe you should listen to our podcast. And then you know who this person is. Like, I saw people last night going, are we supposed to know what a BBL is? And I was like, Hey man, maybe, I don't know, maybe you know what that's a reference to. If you looked at other things outside of wrestling, but, uh, maybe if you expanded those horizons, you would know what a BBL is is also kind of wild to think about, but super funny. But yeah, I thought that, uh, Cody using Metro at this time is so funny. Like Cody is really plugged in. Also, like he's like, Cody's plugged in, which is wild as hell, though, but you have to look out. That's what what song is this? What album is this that new Metro? But yeah, I love the teaser. I think that, uh, going to Atlanta, Atlanta still one of the hotbeds for wrestling, you know, uh, they have, they're always continuously off the backs of what WCW and what they've done in the past have that really just we want wrestling type of crowd. And Cody represents that old school type of film and being in Atlanta, having Metro and what the involvement he has in hip hop right now. Like, it used to be like, I guess that's what kind of Triss me out is like, it used to be like, they would bring like some hip hop or some like rap, but it'd be like 10 years past the relevancy or like flow right, and no disrespect, man. I like, I'm a big, big flow writer fan, but like, I don't want to hear no, no, no, not at all, but I just didn't want to disrespect the homie flow, but it would be like artists like that. And it's like, I don't want to hear no flow writer, but now it's like relevant, actual people of the culture. And it feels good. Yeah, uh, I was laughing because I was like, nah, man, you know, Metro don't trust you. I'm gonna shoot you. Metro didn't shut his ass up and make some drum. He shut his ass up and went and got Cody Rhodes. Yeah, he wasn't that they were doing the stakeout in the car. That's cool. It was a cool rollout for a bad blood. I like it. I'm glad that what they're bringing back that title. Also, Cody Rhodes, known lover of blood. Yes. Cody Rhodes, known vampire. Yeah, so it's very funny. I have to assume, like we were saying on ice gravity that by then we'll be ready to do Randy versus Cody. That's probably going to be the main event of that show. Seems like a very, uh, Atlanta main event to go with. And it's Cody Rhodes going back to his hometown. That's probably a big match for Cody. So Atlanta, Cody Rhodes, bad blood, like all signs point to Cody and Randy and they're teasing it super hard with like every time they kind of interact on there. But yeah, I'm excited for Cody. It feels like they're giving Cody everything he ever wanted, right? Like it's like, what are all the things we have back here? Like, how can we make Cody happy? Listen? Oh, we got another one. Let's give bad blood. Get bad blood. Let them bleed or at least use blood packs or whatever they're doing. And I bring it back bad blood letting him do the hip hop collabs too, man. He's on top. They use some blood packs. So it looks like a blood pack last time. Wow, it did look like he played it. Might be talking about him in my baseball. Not supposed to know all that. Shout out to Cody, though, representing bad blood. You about to pull up to Atlanta? Uh, I might sound like fun. It does sound like a lot of fun, honestly. October. Hmm. I remember the original bad blood. They're doing the anniversary thing in life. It's just so connected to Brian Pillman's death for me because they announced it. They announced Brian Pillman's death on the pre-show. So I'm like, I wasn't going to watch the show, but like they used to call it the free for all. It would go on the, uh, the TV guide channel and they'd play on the top of that. And so Vince comes on and he's like, Brian Pillman's dead. And it's like, I don't know how I'm supposed to like, like, am I supposed to like be excited for this wrestling show? Like it's really weird that you're announcing this to me before the show starts and like I'm a kid. Like there was a bunch of times like that in wrestling history where it's like, I don't really know how to feel about this. Like I'm not supposed to sit happy and watch this show knowing one of the guys that was supposed to be supposed to be a part of the show is dead. Like it's so weird and like they're doing it on the anniversary of that. It's just some interesting feelings attached to that. Yeah, very, um, what? Again, glad that they are going back to that title. I think that's what a good original WWE pay-per-view titles. Definitely. And I think bringing it back in Atlanta in a big way, uh, bringing pay-per-views back to Atlanta. I think it's dope. I think it's great real up. And also originally Bad Blood, uh, what I'm interested in used to be the original Hell in the Cell pay-per-view, the original Shawn Michaels and Undertaker, Hell in the Cell, happened at the original Bad Blood. And I think Triple H and Kevin Nash maybe at the next one or Jericho. Somebody was involved in Hell in the Cell match. Um, wonder if they do that. They, you know, the Hell in the Cell has kind of just been like a pay-per-view or whatever at this point. So I'm interested to see if they kind of pivot and do that. Yeah, uh, Hell in the Cell is usually around the summer, right? She usually summer or August? Something like that. I don't really remember. It's kind of mixed up now. Yeah, they didn't have Hell in Cell last year, right? Yeah, I think they may. I can't remember. Because I think it used to be in October. Yeah, I don't think they had Hell in the Cell as a pay-per-view last year. They haven't had one since Seth and Cody. That's double check that to make sure. Just kind of double check that. Yeah, I don't think I can't. Yeah, I'm not. What show did they do in October then? Um, yeah, they just continued it as 2022. Okay. Yeah, that was the Seth and Cody. And after that, they were like, all right, we can't do this no more. That's crazy. We can't top Cody. Let's let, let's leave that alone. Yeah, so maybe they'll be a Hell in the Cell match at Bad Blood. I don't know. Cody and Randy Hell in the Cell, Bad Blood Atlanta. It's a big marquee match. Big people are like that. Makes sense. Came out of a big pay-per-view weekend for WWE. It's been a while since they packaged NXT pay-per-view and Money in the Bank next to each other. Kind of felt like early 2017 lives. And I didn't expect it, but NXT outshined those guys. Kind of like 2017. I was gonna say it really was 2017 vibes because NXT had the hotter show, I think. Yeah, did not expect that, but here we are. Money in the Bank was fine. It was fine. All the matches on the show were fine. There were no bad matches. But I don't think that it really hit as well as some of the other WWE pay-per-views this year. And I think that's because there were some idle missions. There were no women's title matches. Some of the stuff that they're building to for SummerSlam isn't really exciting me at the moment. Like, I know we're supposed to be excited for the Bloodline Cody stuff. And the Bloodline storyline has been good, but I'm not excited for solo versus Cody. Me, me, there. Especially, we'll get into it fully with your homie Jacob showing up and being like, I'm like, I want him to be in the match, but I understand what's going on. And I want to get into the point that you made on Twitter. But I think that with NXT doing that, this whole thing came to a head field of match, how many matches are featured on the show and show length, because the money in the bank show only had five matches, but you could have put eight matches on the show. There could have been like all this advertising for an hour. You're cutting the commercial breaks all the time. It's like, okay, I understand what you're saying. And like, sticking to this five format thing has been pretty, it's done well for you. But like, if you're going to do it in this format, like, you better add some more matches to this. Yeah, NXT definitely utilized its time better. It was a shorter show. It was around two and a half hours. And it was what you usually expect from Black and Gold NXT of no frills straight to the straight to the graph. They got to it. And all the matches were heat. Money in the bank, like the men's ladder match was cool, like it was the spots. But I think we've seen so many money in the bank matches. We've seen so many ladder matches. I thought the women absolutely had the better money in the bank match this year. There were some bits of it that were kind of wonky, but the women worked very hard in that match. EO was the MVP at that match. She looked incredible. Just headed back out to Japan, had a fire match with the Tommy that I haven't seen yet, but everybody's raving about it. Yeah, it feels like every time they do the double hitter of a big women's match and a big men's match, the women's match always seems to hit for some reason, maybe because like, in this case, of the ladder match and money in the bank, we've seen so many of the spots and the things done in the men's. Let's do it again. And the women's match, it feels like they're trying to do different stuff. They're innovative. They have to be in different positions and it just hits harder. Yeah, I kind of feel like the women came out with something to prove as well, because they didn't have any women's title matches on here. So this was the only women's match on the card. And I thought it stole the show. I thought it was the best match on the show, honestly. I think Tiffany was the right choice for the winner. Do with that what you will, but I thought you was the right choice. Pretty not surprising is what I felt like. It was like, the thing that I like about it is like the money in the bank concept, the men's winner we can get into. But like, it feels like the women's one, they're doing it right. It's like an up and coming superstar that the fans are actually behind. That's going to do something with the concept. Like, that's what this is all about. Like, Tiffany Stratton, this is how you should do it. The men's on the other hand, you know, I don't know. Yeah, it was predictable. But I thought the the finish to the match was really good. A right predictable. Yeah, shout out to Chelsea Green, taking that massive bump off the ladder to two tables. She looked great in that match as well. Again, all the women I felt like worked very hard in that match to make it good. Yeah, I love the role that Chelsea Green played up. I'm afraid of heights and then I'm afraid to get up this ladder, but then I get a bigger ladder and I'm actually going to get up there. But then I take the big giant, scary, falling bump, amazing work from her. Like, she, she was one of the MVPs too, just like with her character work, because like, in matches like this, it's like, it doesn't have to be all about the big crazy stunts and bumps. You got to have like a character like Chelsea to come in and do that. Right. And like I said, the men's ladder match was fine. It wasn't a bad match, but it didn't really blow me away like anything out of the women's match, really. And then the finish was what it what it what it was drew and ended up winning. That'll play out later in the in the night, in a way. I thought Sammy versus Brian was very good. Some people were a little bit frustrated that Sammy won. I'm not sure why, but I thought it's fine. I thought Sammy looked very good. He continues to be a great champion. This guy beat Gunther, guys, they're booking him strong. I don't understand. Phil, do you think it's do you think it's because of things like who killed WCW and and that thing being so prevalent as to why people keep saying Hogan when it comes to like Sammy and Becky and like you guys do not under and Mercedes like you don't understand what Hogan was doing in his creative control and how massively different it was than what you think these people are doing. Like Sammy Zane and Hogan, what listen let me let me get close to my mic just because your favorite wrestler or the wrestler that you wanted to win loss doesn't mean that that other wrestler is politicking or they're hoping. What are you talking about? Like shut up internet like stop stop doing that. It's like so so sad saying we're brawn is the one he's the feature of Sammy Zane is like absolutely not. I have creative control. I'm gonna win this match. We're talking about Sammy Zane who for most of his main roster run was not booked well and now we're in a position where he's finally being booked well and he's winning and it's like oh he's winning too much like guys stop it. He's winning too much that got it man. Like look up this win loss record and I'm sure it's way more losses than there are wins. Like I can't believe how this happens like it's predictable like you're gonna want this person to win them when they win the championship you're gonna turn on them and then like but it's like it can't be Sam Zane though like he's that guy but they turned on Sam Zane because they got a new toy to play with. It's crazy. Yeah and I think Sammy's been having great matches as champion. Both of those gable matches were fire. I thought his match with Gunther at WrestleMania was one of the best matches of the weekend and the same thing here. I thought this match was very good. Brian has a very bright future. He brings a lot of intensity. He's got the care to work working for him right now but right now he lost. But yeah but right now Sammy's cooking man I'm still locked in. Yeah like Sammy is building something like you said he beat Gunther that was a big deal like that wasn't that long ago. That was like three four months ago and there's still a lot to do. He could build to a big match at Summerslam. Ron could eventually win it back at Summerslam like it doesn't have to be the end of it all and I think that Sammy beyond the great matches have been doing really great character work. His promos have been insane like it's not time to give it up you know. Yeah and we got more Brian stuff from Raw this week to show that that fuse not over. Right. It seems clear that Brian's going to get another match so I don't know why people are so upset. But Seth Rollins versus Damian Priest for the World Heavyweight Championship. Controversium. Well it was a pretty good match. I like it. I thought it was going very well and then we got a Money in the Bank cash in. Same night Money in the Bank cash in. Drew put himself in the match and as soon as he put himself in the match I knew where we're going. I was like oh he's going to lose because before that too Phil did you see the Rollins hits the Falcon Arrow one two three and Damian Priest does not kick out. I did see that and then Triple H actually referenced it and the press conference and basically let you know that it was three. When I saw that clip I'm like wait why is he talking about this don't talk about this don't talk about this yeah mishap you know these these things happen. But it's wrestling. What do you mean mishaps these things happen like you're supposed to I don't know man I didn't like that part it was weird. Yeah it seemed like Damian forgot to kick out or something happened there but it definitely was three and people are like oh maybe it was Drew's music was supposed to hit something something you're the champion dude kick out I don't give a fuck what's going on you know what I mean like you're the champ you don't want like whatever the angle supposed to be you got to kick out before that three that's just what the game is I don't know yeah so uh Damian and Seth were having a pretty solid match Drew popped in then we got to see him punk interference he once again cost through the title because as he said multiple times now as long as he's around Drew will never be champion which is a very pointed reference I don't think people understand what he's referencing every time he does it but every time he does I'm like that's a little more inside baseball than people probably understand what you're saying here Sam punk inside baseball yeah and he did it again on raw and that crowd just did not care he tried to make a joke on a w during a promo and that crowd just did not care and I was sitting there like I don't really care I don't care also I don't know but this had me feeling like Drew is dumb Sam punk told you I'm on your ass no matter what you win this briefcase immediately cash it in I'm with you but you didn't try to take out seeing a punk before you didn't have a homie standing the watch like you did this to yourself brother I don't know like punk said it was up from here and it was up from here so the irony in all of this that thought was very funny is that uh from the very beginning of the match first both Drew and Steph kept looking towards the entrance like all right man Drew get out here and one point Steph even said it he was like get out here Drew and so Drew comes out and he never does the same thing like all right punk get out here I know you're coming um and so this ends in very predictable fashion um Damien wins another title defense with the help of somebody else which I don't think has helped him at all no every single one of his title defenses he's one with help um not a good look going in the summer slam where you got a face gun through um and I just didn't like this cash in let's just let's just call it what it is I did not like this cash in I thought it was a waste of the other briefcase um I get it that you furthered the storyline with CM punk you reintroduced Seth Rollins into the stuff with CM punk in an interesting way but I just don't think you needed to do this uh I don't think you needed this to do any of those things because you already had a few going with Drew you could have maybe done something else to get us back uh interested in Seth Rollins and punk that didn't also use the briefcase now some people say well uh whoever had the briefcase you already knew they were gonna lose anyway yeah but that's your job as a company and as bookers to build somebody up uh so that they feel like a contender and tell stories for a year you have a whole year of that briefcase to decide what you want to do with it to just decide all right well I don't feel like dealing with this so let's just point it till next year I saw people saying that Phil and the neither none of those people needed it none of those people needed it like how did we get to another Friday don't need it Carmelo don't need it you can do something with any of those guys you can do something with potentially JU so I wouldn't want to JU so to win it but so you're telling me basically that all of those guys that were in the men's ladder match are not going to get anywhere near the title this year that's what you basically told me yep yep and I mean the for the year part is like you okay I understand you want Cody to have a long reign you want like you you got plans for the world heavyweight championship I'm with you bro but you could still be there still needs to be more contenders than just the one person they haven't gotten over that thing and if there's somebody with a briefcase constantly on the other's ass they don't even have to cash in that just creates another element I'm just I was just so confused I'm like I understand furthering the angle like I'm what you like Drew McIntyre was a hypocrite like it plays into a story and everything but like the briefcase was lost we lost a year's worth of something for somebody else yeah I mean I think it was a waste of the briefcase personally I think that they used it as a plot device which is fine but if you were going to use it as an opportunity to build somebody up for the year and insert them into the title picture I think it was a waste like Mellow would have Mellow with that briefcase would have like milked it so hard you know what I mean yeah and then the next day so priest and Rollins make this bet before the match blah blah blah if I lose I'll never get a match again if you lose you're out of the deadman day the next day Damien priest goes oh it was just a gentleman's agreement that's not actually real I'm like okay so what's going on here what was the point of that then so what what what was the point of any of that why did they what what happened here it felt like all right cool I could say that now because I'm probably losing it somewhere so I don't know man I yeah there was a lot in that match that I was like what you guys what happened here yeah it just felt like a lot that just didn't really amount to much new and it's just building things they were already on the fire yeah I'm like all of the true stuff with punk was already hot it was already heating up you could have easily got back to him and Seth at any time so easy to get back to him and Seth you don't need this to get back to that now did I did I think it was very funny I did laugh very hard at it I did laugh at Rollins slowly walking up and cursing punk out I thought that was all very funny um and I thought the Seth and punk uh segment on Raw was great so but I just wish they would have done something else with the briefcase if it for my preference I wish they would have done something else and I did laugh also because I was like man this sure made a certain guy that used to be on his podcast looked like he was right and I was like oh he's never gonna shut up about this don't give him no fuel and this is fuel right here I wish I just kind of wish that punk would have stopped him in the ladder match from winning the match and that would have gave heat to them to continue and then they could have got back to him in Rollins so easily I just didn't understand they're like well he needs the briefcase to no he doesn't like he you're just using this as a plot device like Phil saying and I hate when they do that when you could use it to get someone over yeah and it's not even the execution of the failed cash in that I think is bad because in a vacuum it's fine but you've done this same thing with punk three times now punk has come out and helped him lose the title at WrestleMania he did a class of castle and then he did it again here and again I understand the story purpose of that of him saying no I'm never letting up um you're never gonna be champion as long as I'm around I'm gonna hold a grudge um yeah I get it but um visually seeing that same thing three times doesn't really do anything for me it was just kind of like okay again like this is this is funny but also like meh bloodline effect yeah so you see the the Roman thing three times you're like all right I get it but like it's gonna further the story but damn three times in a row you guys it just feels a little bit wasteful the briefcase is just like oh my god it's just like it's right there why would you use it same night you just threw it was like we're done here in one night and it's like I guess they're still the women's side to to be happy about but like you could have used this to get one of those other five dudes over yeah already doing something interesting with the women's briefcase uh with Tiffany and Nia I thought that stuff was back down worked we got the BBL Bailey line out of that segment um and some people didn't like that segment I thought it was fine for what it was it advanced those two storylines um but we closed the night with this multi-man match we didn't get a WWE championship match we got a multi-man match uh bloodline took on Cody KO and Randy Ordon I thought a pretty good match um as I expected to start this match was Jacob Fatou he looked incredible um for some reason uh this turned into people going oh why did he sell that it's like he did sell it it was the point of he has you know it's the similar thing that he he has an indestructible hit he had just hit on a match on a map and then immediately got back up and I thought it made him look great I thought it made him look like a monster um and he did it again last night on SmackDown and I was like no this doesn't know um yeah I was uh uh with uh Jacob Fatou um it's apparent before Jacob came in there was these rumors of like they're scared to bring Jacob Fatou in because he's going to outshine the whole bloodline and was like well yeah because like he's Jacob Fatou and it's happening and like in that match he was like he's in a match with Cody Rhodes Randy Ordon Kevin Owens like a bunch of superstars and he's like one far and away like the most outspoken looking guy in this match like you know your eyes are on him for the whole thing he's been doing so exceptional in that role and I was talking a little bit earlier about your tweet on how people are like well why isn't he the the leader of the bloodline and you brought up the point of like well that's kind of the point of like you want him to be the leader of the bloodline but if he was you wouldn't want Roman so much because this guy's badass I don't want Roman back I want this guy he's badass I don't know how people don't understand that that's the point of this that you're not supposed to like solo solo supposed to look like a dork he spoke to look like a fraud because he is a fraud right that's the whole point of his character is that he took over when the real guy went away and this isn't like yeah he looks more believable than Jimmy did and he took that spot there's the long-term storytelling of Roman are always like having kind of a side eye on him like what about what is this guy doing it looks like he's coming from my spot and then he actually did it when he went away and so I like what they're doing with solo I think he fits his role as a character as a wrestler and everything else Jacob is just better he's supposed to be though like you're not supposed to like the enforcer is always supposed to be cooler in some ways yep and he is and I think it's enough to make you second guest Jacob as well to wonder all right well wait a minute why did why did you join them out of nowhere because one of these things is not like the other when you look at uh tomatanga and tanga lower they're both they have a tie to um to the rock they have uh different ties of why they would be in this but Jacob wait a minute you're actually blood you actually have some claim to that to that title um you have ties to the uso's you have ties to roman uh why are you over there and it's enough to make people wonder like hey are you over there because somebody else sent you again that's the story people are that are like oh well roman roman's roman's coming back and solo looks like a joke uh people want roman back yeah that's the point that's fine that's why everything he's doing is to add anticipation to roman showing at the summer slant possibly and getting a massive pop like you think that ww doesn't love that every crowd says we want roman that's desired reaction they want that's by design yeah yeah yeah this match uh i thought that the first half was a house show match i was like i hope these guys get to it because they were kind of did feel like i'll show match they're walking the dog at the beginning of this but then like uh you know the second half in the end they got to like what i thought the match should have been at at the beginning just like a tornado six-man tag like everybody just go crazy at the beginning they're like working a southern style huh i'm like what is this yeah what i understand it with all the plunder that happened in money in the blank bank that's actually kind of what you're supposed to do and cody and randy ordin in this too so you know what i'm just right uh i thought kevin on us was great uh the way he kept staring them down at the beginning of the match he just kept staring uh jacob down like i thought that was fantastic see that is the shining light and solo and cody being the main event of summer slam is maybe we're going to get kevin no one's in jacob far two and that is beautiful that's a dream match for me and i'm all in on that yeah uh that was a lot of fun um but the match was fine uh but it was pretty predictable ending to me because when he sat here last week and said all right solo's going to pin cody it's going to lead to the title match and that's what pretty much what we got uh jacob helped solo win which again part of the purpose solo didn't win the match on his own he won with the help of jacob he gets the title match at summer slam um yep i thought the segment was fine on smackdown uh i was very confused as to why cody rose would go down there and try to face all four of those guys by itself cody it didn't make any sense to me um it's like did you not learn any lesson over the last two years of dealing with this very same stable you had to go and get friends to win the match at Wrestlemania and then you still tried to face all four of these guys by yourself i didn't understand that um but champions confidence i don't know wow yeah but again the star of all of this was jacob far two again came down at right after the tag title match which was actually a fire match i thought it was really DIY versus uh uh a town down under was really good uh but right afterwards jacob came down and then proceeded to beat everybody down i was like hey man you did this big uh exhibition of uh tag team wrestling just for somebody else to beat they'll both text yes what i'm saying man come on dude sabin shelly are you sure uh yeah i i did think that kind of undermined the tag match right away but it made jacob look really cool um that shot of a gargano celebrating on a on a turnbuckle and then he jumps from off off camera and gets caught and gets immediately hit with the samoa drop i thought that looked clean champa tries to beat up on jacob and he does the same kind of uh no cell slash uh reaction coming up off the mat i kind of like this one even more the one that he did the dbt and then he like slowly looks up at champa with that crazy ass look i'm like oh yeah he's cooking yeah i thought this was great i thought like even all of this beat down before it just kind of uh submits my point that you're supposed to think jacob is really cool because all of this made him look like a massive he did the fucking double jump moonsault you know he looked he looked incredible cleaned house uh beat down on three guys by himself um and then you know with a big part of beat down at the end at one point a cameraman gets in his way and he's yelling at the cameraman uh i he's like i was like i think you can say that on tv jacob that's what i love about jacob is like he goes from like that kind of like traditional crazy wild ass samoa into like get your ass out the way like in like an instant it's like a regular tv bro i don't think you could say shit but i love it yeah i think that's what it is they're they're adding to that him coming and destroying two tag teams hitting a double jump moonsault like you're supposed to think this guy's the coolest guy in the world yeah uh you're not supposed to like solo he's he's disrespected everything that roman's built he kicked the wise man out he's done all of these like uh full pause for somebody that's trying to take over if if he did it the right way and he looked cool then you wouldn't be as interested in roman coming back and getting his spot back that's the story why would you want roman to come back if this guy is already badass and then solo they always make it a point of well now making it a point of jacob destroys everybody and then solo comes out when everybody's dead and just like yes you know with his song to walk over the body yeah and that's also the point of you you jacob's really the guy that's handling all of the business and then he comes in afterwards and picks the bones mm-hmm i want it all his kevin gates song or whatever kevin gates song dah dah dah dah dah dah dah i want it all is that kevin gates rapping on there is it i don't know it kind of sounds very kevin gates but yeah money at bank was fine but i was not expecting for all of this hype around index d heatwave that in fact i wasn't even watching heatwave as it aired i was binge watching the bear yeah which for people that keep asking for them you watch the bear it's it's chicago i've i've watched the show it's very good is this chicago very chicago um there's a part in there uh where john bernthall's character is talking about series and it's it's explaining the bar uh right below the world trade and he's explaining like uh the series statue on the top of the building and i know all this stuff because i used to work next door so i used to go to series after work some day um so and i know all of the whole stuff around the world trade um and uh the statue on the top right in the middle of the financial district i worked there there for around nine years so wow i really knew all this stuff connections uh yeah a lot of chicago connections in there great show um but yeah i was not watching heatwave live but people were just raving about the show i was like man i guess i gotta pull this show up uh at least tomorrow um and not for nothing it was a very good show it felt like takeover was back uh and i'm i'm still not a big fan of weekly nxt um and it's not really the matches the matches are fine it's always like the backstage stuff it's always kind of the the acting and some of the segments that are just still not for me it's the that that hold over from 2.0 it's just still not for me yeah it's the connecting pieces that really kind of like i watch it on tuesday and i'm like this match ahead and then after the match i'm like what was that so they'll have some backstage angle or something and i'm like that was the worst thing i've ever seen in in my life and some of the characters and some of the names i'm like do you guys want any of these wrestlers to succeed at all it's just an interesting concept but yeah this felt like black and gold the crowd was super hot all the wrestlers felt like they were wrestling with a purpose or a point of like those those 2017 days feel of like we're gonna do better than the main roster like we're gonna show them that we're not just some developmental brand we're fucking nxt and we're about to kill it and i felt like this felt like a rejuvenated roster and crowd and brand yeah uh yeah to your point even the stuff in between the matches on heatwave i was like what is this like some of the some of the vin yes they were eric to like get you interested in this new character i was like this looks so cheesy i don't want this um and yeah it's fine but the the matches to show itself was very very good i i think i have to give them credit they put on a great show um opening with oba femi versus wesley man oba is oba's on this way man that guy where did he come from that guy is really exciting to watch from his interest on where he's kind of doing that dance walking up and then he just proceeds to beat the shit out of whoever's in there and throw them around and wesley was a great guy to watch him because he's like throwing them around and like taking these big crazy bumps uh uh at some points in the match he was hitting them and trying to catch him by surprise we're talking about big meaty men hold on hold on i got cute just in time i saw that gift yeah what's up what's up what's up what's up what's up the meat band that crests the flowers in the middle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that the meat band it don't put that over my life please don't put that over my life you know you like meat crests don't watch it t-heat what's up guys how are you what's up with it we're just talking a little bit of uh nxt heatwave nxt's boy hook it and i don't even watch nxt that's kind of an art that that's kind of that's kind of synopsis here that neither of us are like big nxt fans but this was a great show it felt like uh takeover again but yeah i thought wesley versus oma femmy was very very good uh both of these guys are great wrestlers uh wesley's in a really good position um we got the rascals reunion as well on nxt during the week uh that was really really cool to see those three guys together again the emotions were flowing um this was a really really good use of the tna partnership but also this match was fire yeah oba is becoming one of those guys that the nxt crowd is going to force them to make him into nxt champion because they love this guy so much the way that he doesn't do a lot like he does like regular basic big band stuff but like times 10 like he'll do a power slam and like he'll throw him in the air and they'll spend around 25 times or some he'll catch wesley while he's on the top rope or so it's like how do you do this he's like a superhuman wesley also credible bumper credible seller incredible all the things yeah this match is really awesome and i've been waiting with this nxt tna crossover for this exact moment right here of the rascals getting back together because when he let when west left it was like damn you're gonna break up the squad though this squad is one of my favorite squads and all the wrestling so to see them back together was beautiful yeah um very really cool uh we got uh kalani joy in versus soul ruka uh controversy one controversial because people were comparing it to very popular ricochet osprey match and there were some spots where you can see that there was either homage to or somebody looked at somebody's homework but this was a lot of fun it was a lot of flippy stuff um i saw where people were saying oh it's just flippy stuff uh it's it's it's no real like connection to anything it's no real selling it's no real story i thought it was fun the crowd really loved it um so i don't know yeah you guys shut up i hate that oh it's just flips it's just yeah exactly that's the point there's two girls that can flip hey you guys flip against each other do a big flip over here then you do a big flip that's all we care about it's uh nxt the development brand everybody's learning things this isn't their final form they could have this match on this show it's really fun the crowd was super into it which is the most important part like what does anything else matter they got the point over both of those women became gifts people are talking about them on the internet like what i think the point of what they did excelled i didn't understand what the backlash was people are like well Dave Meltzer i'm like i thought you guys didn't care about Dave Meltzer yeah why do you she's caring like what's going on here i know i care when it's um aligns with my views about what people should or should not be doing people get mad when the girls really wrestling they make each other bloody nobody want to see that you get mad when the girls do flippy do's you don't want to see that you get mad when the girls wrestle like divas you don't so what do you want to see you don't want to see girls on tv just to say what it is just say what it is see what it is it turned into jiffs uh like uh racetrack to say said shorty guy gifts i don't know gift card but yeah i thought this was a lot of fun um so ruka looked great uh even though kalani uh retained here um both of them are awesome i thought they both looked great i think they both have a bright future uh this pipeline of the gymnast uh wrestler some is is working out really well for debbie debbie so far as those two wrestlers and uh tiffany stratton just working out to the wall wasn't Alexa bliss a cheerleader or a gymnast a gymnast cheerleader bodybuilder yeah they got some uh it's gonna be uh i didn't you know historically it's kind of shown that if you're in gymnastics it could work out for you if you like to get slammed because i remember um Simone Biles was dating that one guy the one flippy guy he kind of looked like corbin blue he was in uh in xt for a while and uh he was he was sick with the flips but then he got slammed really hard one time and he was like oh fuck all this bullshit i'm out of here so it's like if you could take it he could transform to something and it's great that it's the ladies that are the ones that are like we got this bro let me flip out here stop yeah i didn't i think we were going to get a high school musical slash what is the jump work movie i think it's like jump up or something like that i've never seen any high school musical i was four i was five thousand years old when that came out so you you've at least seen like the video of the yeah the one that gets hit in the game i'm not gonna hold you i think every time i think a high school music i think airbud so do it connected notes to high school high school dogs i don't know do do do there's no dogs in the blue high school high school jaw oh there's no no dog in a movie oh well i never seen it i never seen it let's say chris does make it a great point though there should have been a crossover look and i'm saying crossover that could have been the name high school music going air but crossover high school but but it's crossover there there there's a crossover that's the Anthony Mackie movie which stop stop Anthony Mackie is the funniest actor of all time he's back outside the captain american movie's coming out next February come on man shout out to Anthony Mackie stop asking them for autographs he don't want to sign your article don't want to picture with them leave them alone don't leave them alone with y'all public i think i'm sorry all the time i saw Anthony Mackie at a gas station and he told me to get the fuck out of here say like sign up off you sir shout out to big Mac shout out to uh he's on that show that similar joe's leaving to uh twist the metal oh yeah he is also on there uh yeah we got the tag match which the tag match was very good surprisingly when you look at though this match up i was like i don't know guys uh Nathan Frazier and Axiom versus the chase you guys i was like okay but this was actually very good no that's somebody else never mind i'm not actually a person that's red red change there no more he's gone wasn't he didn't he have a mask before and he was doing some other weird stuff scripts he's no longer scripts he's gonna you know you know what i'm not Axiom used to be a kid yes okay thank you a kid a child now he's grown up uh but yeah really fun match i think uh what's his name from chase you used to be hot on the nd so it kind of makes sense i think it's cooking yeah he's kind of cooking in this this is uh um people are calling this match one of the best tag matches of the year for wwe and i was like that's pretty surprising then i watched it i was like oh okay i see what's going on here following the uh the the format of this tag team that i think is about to join this company so interesting i think they're trying to court some people yeah they're trying to court about it i think i'm on motor city machine guns that's what i'm talking about krista i don't think it is it just me and maybe and please correct me if i'm wrong and i haven't watched nxes i don't know how much they cook it but motor city machine guns is a main roster i don't know why you put them on nxt they are main roster act i don't know why you put them over there either but uh but that's been the pipeline for years of bringing a really cool tag team and putting them on nxt and heating them up and then bringing them up uh if they put motor city machine guns on nxt i would like that you didn't go ahead broke that tag team match was inspired by what the motor city machine guns did why would they be here they created all this i mean why would i be in develop mental what do i need to develop you all copy and me stopping we'll say i mean we i developed we've seen this before they put war machine on nxt they did who so and they're going to put julia and stephanie recur on that way oh stephanie recur being on nxt makes me angry but i at least give you okay okay but i have that same feeling about grace and i'm like yo if you put henry you are great i i don't know they're already they're establishing them on nxt already i don't know where you i don't know where else you think they're going i'm in dilulu land i live in nxt i live in tna land i'm in dilulu land please please hang out rosemary but yeah i thought this was a fire tag match um when you say it out loud this is the best one of best ww tag matches of the year that does sound like wait a minute what then will you consider like this year of tag team wrestling gonna make roster what else is it really up against yeah like i think the diy match with uh uh uh guala and and theory was good but there's been a lot to go off of i can't like what was the Wrestlemania match wasn't it like a four way or oh it was a lot of match it was the double the double take all tag match yeah that wasn't really that great it was a fun match the way you remember them it was like oh yeah oh yeah no yeah no because like i want them they have a lot of great tag teams and i want and i thought splitting them up spilling the tag team championships up was going to help but then they gave them to truth in the Miz and i was like that's not going to help and then that's been that great that's all i'm saying i'm gonna be honest with you i'd rather truth in little jimmy and that had been a funnier run happy way way hotter than him and the Miz they're probably the overs fuck too truth and Joe Henry together come on knock it off knock it off you guys see that clip of Miz explaining making up with CM Punk backstage i did see that i did not i'm not interested in the Miz i think he's a great human bean the cat it doesn't do it for me great human bean yeah i believe i believe it was uh the homie Adrian again getting another sound bite for you guys but yeah he interviewed the Miz recently and the Miz got into his story of making up with CM Punk backstage thought that was very very interesting because the Miz was like the Miz felt like it felt like he was like i don't what's why are we doing this what's going on here but then he was like oh no it was a good conversation and and we're friends now yeah good for ya but this was a this was a fun tag match nason nason and axiom are great nason every time i watch him rest so i'm like this guy i like this guy i can't put my finger on what looks familiar about him but i like how this guy works i know why i like this guy for some reason the way he works the way he moves the way he jumps the way he runs it says very interesting his moveset looks very similar oh yeah these guys need to be main roster though also speaking of main roster i think like if we want to up this tag team division the way that these guys have that 100 miles per hour type style i think it's needed up there yeah um i still am not into into this entrance thing where they do the fake uh super speed thing it looks hokey every time i see it but uh the match with fire i don't know what they were still doing i'm like oh they're still doing the tik-tok thing uh interesting not the tik-tok things you're ready for what interesting approach you guys all right i don't yeah i'm not into the entrance and the rest of the stuff but the match was fun uh then we got Roxanne Perez versus Lola Weiss i also thought this was very good um Roxanne is smashing it right now rock sand we both were sitting here like why do you turn this woman heel and we're we're tied to her as like an indie wrestler and what she was doing at our wage and it's like this is like a great baby face why would you turn the heel hey it turns out we were wrong she's really i was watching this match this and that Jordan match and i was like oh yeah i was totally wrong about this i thought that because she is eventually going to be one of the biggest baby faces in their company but like i think she actually needed this to get the other side of the character and to uh build a little bit of stock for when she does eventually become that baby face the way that she feels like a veteran in her position just because she's been in the game for so long and she's still so young and 22 years old you know what i mean and she's taking the veteran role in so many of these NXT matches miss because of the people that she's facing and she's knocking it out of the park the way that she structures her matches and working and working the crowd like rock sand is even better than i expected like she's getting better with every defense it's crazy i saw the match between her and grace and i was thoroughly impressed i've been even impressed with the girls they've been sending over to tna but i'm like surely grace beats rock sand perez i understand why they did the schmaz but not for nothing perez held her own she's really good like you said don't need for being 22 to have that veteran like mentality 22 years old that makes me sick i hate y'all i'm a grandpa you Whitford what were you born 2005 you're sporting the 2000s that's crazy yeah i thought this was a fire match though rock sand looked great uh lola looked like she belonged in this match as well i feel like lola's gonna be nxt women's champion at some point like they keep putting her in the position and giving her these opportunities i'm like i think they really like her down there big surprise shawm michaels well listen he cooking down there i see into the promise land and it is beautiful shawm michaels is out here they don't call him the heartbreak if at all reason i'm saying i thought you were so i thought you was a man of god now he's like now so many streets but don't listen yeah my name is michaels i'm really hiccuping yeah the finish i thought was was dope the uh pop rocks on the table and then brought her back into the ring and hit three more i believe um thought that was fire um try to kill her at the end there i liked it yeah i liked it i was into it uh then we got the main event which uh the bill to this main event was very interesting because it was like all right you did this battle royal to give somebody the spot in this match with trick williams for the title and then you had other people pin this guy and then it's like controversy about what is the match and i was just like but why did you do that you had the match set because i thought that he wins the battle royal and then they're like oh he's facing ethan page and i thought that match was for whoever wins is the number one contender but it wasn't it was like oh no he's just gonna pin him just because i'm like wait what happened here i didn't understand it was very confusing on the way up here and then like oh actually it's just a four-way i'm like okay i guess yeah uh yeah there's no rules we did end up with a four-way uh trick Williams took on uh jvonne evins shawn spears and and uh i mean big ego ego he's in page um i'm happy he's doing something now i thought him leaving tna and a w fumbling the back i'm so happy he's doing something back in the game he's back out there man few uh few episodes in he's our great champion go figure uh but i thought this was the right move in toronto uh he's a candidate guy um i like what trick has been doing this champion man not for nothing that reaction to trick when he came out there out of there man yeah trick is over like rover and that was in canada like it's not just like a an american specific thing like a north american specific thing like he's over everywhere um this results i thought could happen when we initially talked about the other match that the one-on-one match that he had with trick it was like well there is this show in canada that could be when they pulled the trigger and they pulled the trigger uh jvonne evins had a very great showing in this i thought he was all over the match and going 100 miles per hour getting his name out there um Sean spares i have zero interest in like damn damn still i have negative interest in john do you think he was cooking when he brought out the chair and he was hitting the chair spots no negative interest in john spares it was it was fun i i thought it was a fun match all around i thought everybody had their moment where they had their highlighted match like he said jvonne evins really proved that he belonged here uh bright future for that guy very bright uh the when the trick williams when the uh belt how long has it been he wanted that russomania no he had to mellow match the russomania oh he wanted before that from uh drag he wanted after that he wanted after they can't drag it off i can't remember which pay per view that was but he went up that long okay i thought he did did his job though i don't think every rains needs to be the longest ranking of all time no no i i thought he looked great in this match i thought the spots where he was supposed to look strong he looked strong uh some of these strikes uh didn't look really effective but mmm look he looks like a million bucks he does he looks great uh great physique he had the harlem heat uh gear on yeah uh booker was booker was loving it on commentary uh booker on commentary is still funny to me every time i hear it's so good but yeah i thought this four-way did was supposed to do it really made these four guys look good and easin is our new champion yep i'm here for it you think trigles remain russin now because i've been hearing a lot again i had that i didn't watch any xi i don't really watch it but do you think he's ready or we just still trying to figure out what we're doing with mellow yeah i don't i don't i don't think you move him up yet um what did you guys think of this finish because uh it was a very in-de-finish um they did the one guy hits the thing and then ethan falls onto him and gets the pen i'm like oh i mean i want ethan page to look strong and that wasn't a really strong thing but he's a heel so it makes sense uh this kind of reminded me uh early on uh bobby root like this is a way bobby root right um and it other people that were upset about it i was like this is a very in-de-finish like even when somebody showed the in-de match the hat this similar finish i was like yeah we've seen this finish in an in-de-match it felt like it felt like uh early nxt that's why i was laughing at it i was like oh they're back to their roots like that oh that is an early nxts finish you're right yeah they're back to their roots man listen we got the nil guys on but listen we're back to going and scouting and getting the indie big indie wrestlers we're doing the big indie finishes man we're trying to sell you and he's back yes they're gonna start calling them takeover again probably at this at this rate war games what's William Rico all right he's uh he throwing some scounds he at the Olympics right now it's about man but a lot of scounds but yeah i think that uh um i spilled ginger ale all over my fucking keyboard i'm so mad i'm so mad i'm so mad i'm so okay i thought this was a strong paper for you over all around i did not expect to like it as much as i did uh i also did not expect it to be the biggest talking point out of money in a bank weekend um they very much stole the show this weekend uh i think that uh it's been an interesting take on uh Sean Michaels kind of the way that he's taking in uh home potatoes on your desk i'm gonna mute you gotta you gotta have uh uh something uh a top on that um the way that Sean Michaels has became like a figurehead for nxt like i'm thinking of like the Stephanie recur things specifically this week of like there was these rumors of her being in the rumors of her leaving CMMLL rumors are her leaving new japan and then he was just like welcome to the team Stephanie and like the way that he's taken on that role and it feels like with that show he wants the credit like triple h does i'm just like well these credit boys are very funny credit boys why do you guys want credit so much like let me hit it boy smells like uh one of those as you get uh during a youtube video of like hey man do you have like credit problems do you want somebody to help you fix your bad credit credit credit boys is crazy but does this uh i feel like uh with that with the championship like i liked what trick is doing but he still needs to develop he still needs a lot more development they need a champion like ethan page to carry this going into the cw brand you know what i mean like they need to like a veteran to like interact with all these people that are involved in the roster you know that's what i immediately thought and that's part of why i think that this was the right call to put the belt on ethan not just that i like ethan page a lot uh but i think it's the right move because he's the kind of heel that can help those other younger people have the better matches and right help them highlight what's special about them um he's gonna help put some guys over i think that's gonna work really well um i think he's got like the look and everything he already feels like a polished wrestler um so i think this was a i think this was the right move and he has that really great theme song also eego what's that little bar bar i thought it might not want to fuck him up i don't know what it's supposed to be but every time i hear it i'm like okay cool eego no man somebody was getting this shit off in the in the booth one that way man just make sure to mention ego and then you get to say whatever you want after that uh yeah but uh oh no did we lose crusted possibly okay hold on um oh man uh wait wait wait it's the big man okay that's us that's us uh oh but yeah no so that but i think this was the right move i think it's gonna i think ethan's gonna do well as champion um and we'll see i guess does that my question after every nxt show does that up your anticipation for cw uh i think that they're doing a lot of good things to build this brand up there's a lot of excitement around a brand i think that's a good thing coming um to a show i mean to a channel like cw i mean if you're having to if you're having the better show than the main roster that's a pretty good sign yeah and i mean based on a lot of reactions i see every week on twitter people are enjoying the show so i think it's good um the other thing we close the show with the joe henry tees uh oh yeah yeah yeah and got a massive pop on wednesday um not surprised because again this guy is super duper over um i want what's going on here you think phil well with joe henry yeah you think they're gonna uh because it feels like the pop that they're getting they're not is there are they doing like a slow burn is what i'm saying because it feels like why don't you guys give him everything already this guy's the most over guy in the whole everything i mean he's not signed over there he's a tna guy so yeah but i mean but yeah he's getting massively over you see more signed for him on main roster shows man like i'm saying maybe she's out of here he's trying at all now shout out to joe henry like he's uh i feel like he's kind of in the same boat as l.a. knight of like he's been he's been this guy for so long that like people are just catching up to it but i'm happy that he's like that people are finally catching up to it yeah uh speaking of l.a. knight um i think earlier this year i think it was melted or somebody was saying this guy is not over no more not at the rock stair i was watching that guy on smackdown and again that take is wrong this guy is still very much over all the catch phrases are still working what he's doing with uh logan paul is actually hidden um and i think he is gonna win that belt at summer slam same here he has one of those when his theme hits feel just that beginning like the crowd goes bananas like this guy is still super over like i thought when when he was involved with the roman stuff and he was in the the the championship thing and he had a couple of title matches i was like maybe it's over for l.a. knight i don't think it's over for l.a. knight like i think they can get back to it like i think he can still be world champion no he's still doing very well he'll be yeah um i guess before we get into some super chats with the pumper chats uh we're getting to the other big news of this week um it's also kind of leads into the nxt and debbie debbie talk uh but stephanie vacar is uh no longer with cml uh that was a big shock to begin the week um but stephanie is officially signed with debbie uh that mystery did not last for a whole day which was funny in itself um but the news came out and uh soon as i saw the news and i saw the quote about her taking time off for personal reasons um i said oh yeah she signed all right we did it my fault i had to clean off my keyboard because those kids got stuck i can't explain that yeah it's all good he got it got it got it got it on sticky keys yeah that's weird that's weird not what's that uh but yeah that news dropped early in the week that uh she is no longer with cml they gave us the personal the personal reasons uh as the reason why uh she got stripped up over for titles and as soon as i saw that news i was like this looks familiar and this kind of thing before i can see what's happening here yeah so i was like she's she signed uh did and i immediately had that reaction uh we got the bad takes coming out of that of her coming out of the mattress Mercedes of course and we've had some more bad takes throughout the rest of the week but that should be expected at this point um but uh we got the fightful select report that came out right after that um that kind of confirmed that she was signing and she was already in negotiations with AW and WWE and then it basically got confirmed and then like you said Sean just came out was like hey guys uh Stephanie's over here now welcome to the family staff welcome to the family uh and she immediately confirmed it put the heart emoji up there heart emoji has been a part of a a lot of stories this year i'm like it's becoming a bit at this point i think what's going on here um yeah so that uh it's interesting it's interesting how fast that happened uh yeah i'm controversial bits because i was gonna head to San Jose California today uh cmls having our new Japan and cml are having a cross promotional show fantastic mania and she was supposed to be defending her cml women's championship on that show and she's not anymore so yes she had to uh again vacated her belts cancel some bookings like i said when you see that you usually know what the problem is so um yeah she she signed and look good for her get a bag get a contract as soon as she had that match with Mercedes at uh for Ben door i was like yeah somebody's gonna sign her she's got a right feature out of her yep and so i wasn't surprised i was just surprised she got signed that fast me too by the fed is considering that AEW was courting her courting her courting right exactly like she's at AEW shows and they're probably getting emails from hunter i saw um a really good take about the whole thing like where a lot of people they're dreaming to be a professional wrestler includes pointing to that mania size so i'm not mad get your money honey get your money and we're in a time now where you can get your money and not have that mania sign point and and almost almost any company i'm sorry teen i'll root for you root for you root now yeah i thought she was going over there uh uh rego the rego rego that's where she go that's where she gonna go uh and so that story came out you know shout out to Denise she did the interview with her recently she talked about the ww tryout in 2018 and so she talked about how great of an experience that was and of course there's stories about how ww is kind of always where she wanted to be um so we surprised it's not surprising but just the way this went of her dropping her titles and dropping out of a show that's coming up in a week it looks it looks kind of crazy uh and of course i'm not gonna say here and go oh well how dare you not do your bookings and all this other stuff like man get your bag man it's been a very interesting week for wrestling man i saw uncle dak's twerking on instagram anything's possible man oh we'll just get out of it on instagram go to dak's hall with instagram he out there whoo whoo whoo whoa what does uh what does this mean for nxt because i think with that the kind of looming julia is gonna be here this uh this is pretty big right no it's it's a big gift for them absolutely um uh the other part of it that people i thought uh of course we're being weird about is uh hey you know having a big match with Mercedes maybe it kind of helps you i don't know uh but people are like no that didn't help her at all like you don't think having this big match was one of the biggest female wrestlers in this industry in new york gave her any kind of spotlight no okay even if so somebody that the fed definitely wants to come back they would do like yo Mercedes i'm sorry she's like yeah you have to pay me an apologize publicly i'm not doing that all right well yeah and shout to Mercedes immediately making star maker a part of her bit now i'm glad very hard at that i love it yeah no over there they're definitely watching everyone on Mercedes moves and if you have and coming out of forbidden door legit everyone was like stephanie stephanie step she killed it she killed it she's one of the best she's one of the best so like this wasn't surprising at all then moving in at this rate like with how free agency and not free agency and how everything's working these days you got to move fast as hell like you don't even have time for anything um i'm not surprised by like uh um she's i'm surprised that they're sending her to nxt honestly at this point like she's a main roster star like i put her up there with uh but i understand why like it's going i i'm waiting for the transition of ww fans are excited right now they've been talking they two weeks ago they were saying who but now they've been excited but then when they've learned she can't speak english and she's not cutting a turtle she said it said this was this was the funny thing that i've watched also this week uh certain people turning going her and going oh how dare she not you know commit to her bookings and burn bridges and all this other stuff i don't think i need to see the phrase burn bridges again for a while no burn burn bridges please let me ask you something make higher people and release them do you think they give a fuck about burner bridges with them yeah about our bridges not about the bridges but but so i thought that was funny i've seen certain people on one side of fence being very negative towards her and i've seen other people like aha you guys fumble stephanie and i'm like but wait a minute if they if they had signed stephanie somebody's saying people like well who even is this like is that a big is that a big signing for that gonna be a game changer unknown unnamed people but even then so like yeah it's gonna get lost in the shuffle like diana like thunderosa no shade where's hater there's so many women there they're top injured what do you mean where hater she's injured but diana is kind of doing whatever now she with thunderosa how many other women are on i'm saying how many other women are on that roster that are stars but that's apples and oranges so we get what i think like uh there's like four really great stories happening right now that's not heavy that's what i'm trying to say they're top heavy and i think stephanie would be a great i mean you talk to top heavy and she's going to the fucking WWE crest what what are the women doing on the WWE you got one sloppy seconds chasing rear ripplies man i don't even know what other girls do what the other girl is do i don't even know who the other women's chain are she about to cook at is my question i guess that xc well everyone else is gonna get out of court i know man uh but yeah i think again big big good friend xc happy for stephanie um some of the stuff around this is uh feeling like the old wwe uh which is why i'm not surprised the people that they were like oh well how dare this happen this way it's like but how much have you kept up with debbie debbie over 30 years they do this quite a bit and you know it usually looks the same way and that's why when it came out and i saw how it looked out like she signed and this reads it a certain way it definitely seems like she's going over there and we found out by the end of the day that she's going over there that news is moving so fast it was like oh she might not be here she might not be here she's definitely going to be here within like four hours i'm like damn what's happening here it is what it is i the game is the game that's what i thought immediately and uh you got to move fast now free agency is different and so she wanted to be over there that's where she is good for her get your money the game is the game damn damn damn damn damn damn it's crazy let's get it to super chats and humper chats you guys because we got a pretty good amount of yeah usual humper chats.com/flyful where you send your humper chats if you would like to and of course send in your super chats as well yep uh Corey David says it's an obofimi match and Noah and a soul ruka match and marigold i guess that's something you would like to see yeah that i think soul ruka uh and marigold would be fire uh they announced uh the tournament and Noah um today i think it's called n1 um and they announced a couple uh nxt people in that uh josh briggs and uh tavion heights yeah interesting yeah he's like one of the he was in like the nxt breakout tournament he's one of the newer guys i think he's in that uh the group with regal son regal regal and uh also shout out to the homie Titus i was ander who's in there too so that's gonna be fun but yeah i think that uh this crossover or whatever they're doing it's gonna help for people like that that are getting the opportunity the main people like seeing AJ there is awesome and incredible but like you don't need to be over there and it's good exposure it looked i was pointing to the young lions look at you how you are mara look at um what's his name didn't they even do that with kota bushi for a second and um ocada that this but these boys go out there get beat up by the japanese wrestler sort of it yeah see that's that's what's been wwe's issue for all these years it's like they haven't been utilizing that there's like we only have our system and blah blah blah but like no since some of your young people over to japan send them to england sing send them to mexico let them get some different training some different backgrounds in mexico semi mexico too uh the homie eliquid says i'm biased as a producer the m album was i production is killing him in a album unfortunately less somebody else than a production it's crazy because his DJ is the alchemist get some beats from him he's here where are you doing and get the good beat there's no alchemist beats on an album i think there are but like he made an m&m beat okay wait because i didn't hear the m&m album what is is it good is it bad i'm kind of like cooling on m&m because you hit it my girl making i can't i can't i heard good things about it for the most part but i i think it's what what you expect the people that are not gonna like it are not gonna like it and people that are gonna go up for it are gonna go up for it trust the thing that you didn't like about it he's doing more of that oh yeah you don't got to though like that's how i feel but i'm like you don't know baby you don't know baby but he's doing like that he he knows he shouldn't do it but i'm gonna say i shouldn't it's like just stop oh so you're really slim shake i ain't mad at me mom sorry it was good out it was a good i'm not gonna lie like i'm okay no lie i'm mad at my mom i'm mad at with me um yes uh certain older people being excited for this m&m album and that's kind of where this is like i'm like yeah when you see certain people and certain accounts going this m&m album is dope don't i'm like i don't ever see you talking about rap like i i feel you with this and the common and p rock album very puffed started talking about adult contemporary hip-hop is becoming a thing and i'm like damn i think i'm adult contemporary hip-hop every time i think it i think i think a comment i think of that jz line i ain't been rapping like common sense i'm that's all i think i want to think of what i think about adult contemporary hip-hop condote contemporary hip-hop that's crazy they can be playing our shit in the dentist's office stop they play jz line all over here ranch oh yeah yeah yeah july 18th you guys the uh who we are part two's coming out um yeah um a lot of great work i am featured on the prince nana song shout out to rich lada for a production on that um very excited about that you guys it's gonna come out two hours after dynamite this week so definitely i'm excited for you yo shout out to rich give right all your money and buy his album thank you kresta yeah they dropped a few tracks uh i saw they dropped one with the homie uh uh victor from wrestling club yeah shout out to him on the willow willow track yep and the homie carly barvo dropped on to his shout out to the homie carly shout out to the infantry shout out to the homie captain eloquent also says eo versus utami matches fire heard aj versus marfuji was fire too yeah i've heard both of those matches are great i'm gonna watch those later today yeah y'all were talking crazy on aj's name and i feel like this year he's trying to remind y'all like no i'm still really good at this like chill out like i'm aj style is one of the greatest of all time like why are y'all talking crazy about me but aj like relax on the uh relax big dog no no no no no no no you don't want it you don't want it it's looking like a real life action figure out here i'm like dog you don't want none you don't want none that's what it is Phil you got you paid clocked you don't want to read you by 48 years old there's no way that's all natural you don't want to know how you know how you know yeah how you know let me ask you something how you know hey what's up what that show uh speed i saw that uh uh uh mellow and dragon off for having a match this week i'm like i don't know what i don't know who's at it why are they what three minutes what all right okay okay uh cori david's also says japan eo and aj are different who from ww would you love to see have a match in japan male or female male and you know uh aska yes that's lazy come on then aska man i would like to see real ripply in uh in a new japan or mara gold match i would like to see her i would like to see her as far as a dude i'm gonna still go over family i'm i'm gonna say he s five wesley without f five or wesley bro i i just think the idea of aska doing mari gold if you know you know that is kind of funny that's the rossy connection um i just think that idea that would be very very funny um that if you see the pictures from Wrestlemania weekend of her at the hall of fame and rossy is in the same picture it's very funny wasn't a fan she wasn't a fan uh i i want to see like somebody super ww like chris to spay rest of the miss maybe in japan stummy what's it what's it what's it gonna do there what's it gonna do there what's it gonna do there he's gonna do the uh just for him what's he gonna do that that's the best part is they're gonna drag his ass like he's gonna get destroyed when he gets there i don't want to see that um stuff rallens i'd rather you say rallens yeah rallens yeah rallens um do you think uh do you think rallens gonna end his career and they'd be like he's not gonna wrestle for anybody else before it's all said and then how long is this new contract extension isn't didn't he just signed a new contract did he yeah oh yeah he did how long was it for does anybody know i think it's like three not i he is three years he okay that's not that long i can see seth doing the best he is there and much like edge i don't want to do it but if enough of his homies go over there a w and just like edge yeah he he kind of changed the game i think because i thought he was a lifer and he wasn't a lifer i'm like that opens the floodgates honestly exciting i've heard certain people say there's no such thing as a lifer so maybe i don't know i mean when they when they fired how our finkle i was like oh man they don't keep nobody up over there so i mean i also think that wrestling is see a punk said he'd never go back to ww i mean me a punk's on tv every monday and i never in a million years thought that was gonna happen he said unless they give me a big bag of money and look where he is it's clobbering time on monday now the original one is when i saw ultimate warrior do a interview in the ring and then die the next day i was like yeah anything could happen around here right shut up the game is the game like ultimate word came back after like 20 years and then he died the next day that's crazy as hell that was what kind of Buddha was this professional wrestling ladies and gentlemen that is the most professional wrestling thing like in the history of you see you see your boy hogan back in the news this week girl media literacy is in the dog it took a five minute a five minute google five if we talk about that influencer unless it's yes we are that's exactly what we're talking about oh googles they're coming try to come out and say it wasn't that oh no it's not because they're black yeah i fucking bet but like cow hundreds on the tables 20s on the floor and i love it the best the best hogan clip but that's all your clip ever don't you not like as black they're like black women why are what are you doing with hogan there are a lot of people who were gonna make money after 2005 who got no media literacy to me that's a simple google search where hogan says listen it's not the fact that i said the end word is the fact that i got recorded that's crazy you would record me in my own home they didn't date those brothers a google search that's in the first five things why why was old hogan you could look you could look it up but media literacy is in the dog people have object permanence people said last week he said with stephanie back here she's so great she signed up he was she so kind of what she goes like girl not to say you deserve that but girl girl girl you want someone hogan like that's what it's not even a relevant brand at this point like you have a wrestling friends if you if you've watched wrestling for more than 10 minutes you okay maybe they did they were like hey i'm gonna work with this wrestling they were like hogan that sounds great because some people just don't know still no they probably were like man i'm trying to get it back i'm trying to do the modeling thing but she has an age she has an agency so they should do diligence ladies and gentlemen do a google search of this bag is better than that sometimes kresta unfortunately okay brother let me call you the end one for this i know integrity is in the dirt i'm like you know i got integrity now i don't care about that care about money i'm like i mean to be fair sure if the fed called me today so you want to do a announcement y'all go see you crossed that picket line that quick i'm not shit i never said it was not true hey what's over there says j_i_d_ gives me hope for the future of rap music yeah j_i_d. it's probably in my top five currently for sure he can really wrap yeah that's one of the track i listened to of the m&m yeah i heard the first one that is really good yeah the m&m and then m&m got into some lost and i was like all right speaking of m&m our friend erim buzzy says reg that was the nicest thing you said about m&m in a long time listen i seen buzzy going up for the m album on the timeline i was like you listen man listen he's getting all the things he likes good for buzzy man i'm like buzzy's out of here busy few couple months man he's got a lot of W's these last couple of weeks the Kendrick the m&m i'm like yo he's winning right now go for him good for m&m like he needs another platinum record he has like 50 of them uh bragav says uh appreciate y'all happy graphs today appreciate you for showing up again on another saturday and supporting with us uh ten ruzas says uh what's the uh with the good vibes and hip-hop rap chance of an outcast reunion question mark out also after a big hit thoughts on not like us vid love the bigger picture with dj head um i don't know that that the first half of the question is always up tundra yes exactly that's pretty much we'll get world peace without cast can reconnect together because it feels like big boy has been telling us for years i would be in for it whenever just call me but it's whenever dray wants to record um somebody just uh brought up his life for the party uh first and it is like man every time he does a feature i'm like it's okay just give us an album that's the thing it's like when he came out and it's like what am i gonna rap about like dude every verse you've done for the last ten years has been some of the best verses i've ever heard what you mean rap more about that i could give you a top rap about chloros i want to hear what you're talking about what you got to say about toothbrushes i will sit here and listen that's what you're talking about i'm about to listen yeah i still revisit his uh first off of the frank ocean album just give us an album it's cool um yeah which was supposed to also be a full outcast song if nobody's heard that uh little did you see it yeah you never heard that little tidbit no i didn't i'm not in the night big boy was originally supposed to be on that song there's a version with both of them on there but they didn't want the essentially like outcast reunion to be on that record that makes sense that i would have been you know what i mean i that wouldn't have made sense to do it on a frank ocean album right yeah i mean i would have i was great but like we like people are going to be like outcast is back and like that's not really the way we wanted to take with it that's fair um yeah uh we talked a little bit about the not like us video i thought it was really good production is really good the a lot of symbolism in it is great um he put a lot of uh easter eggs in there if you know you know the cake walk and stuff at the beginning they're not going to door um surprise surprise a lot of things that we love in america are also based on racism oh no way no way this is the first i'm hearing of this i have to tell you people complaining about not like us getting played out y'all would have died during the macarata or who let the dogs out you would have committed sudoku very during living levita loka that out that video was so good i don't want to hear anyone's even banging they not like us that man had a whole all the la they not like us work i hate when people say uh what's his name trowston why we're nobody playing kendrick alarm tuxes are i hate when people say that i never heard nobody put it in play that's nice i think sir um but this again that's how hit records work uh like it lives on it lives on in public consciousness this is what it's supposed to do and i mean man what is the the the p.s. y joint that was everywhere oh my god everywhere crazy you can turn on the you can open your phone you can turn on everywhere at football games everywhere see what we're doing the dance it's like dog what is going on here yeah and cressa said who let the dogs out when who let the dogs out was a song and you couldn't do anything without hearing that fucking song the spice girls in the 90s or the spice girls if you want to be in molly y'all would have been mad it's just that it's just kind of sad unfortunate state of music honestly as an artist it's like that's how fast your song could die it's like it's been two months and y'all are still two months maybe it hasn't even developed yet yeah we're used to it for a week and people are like y'all no more no i'm like yeah exactly right yeah we're used to the microwave streaming era of uh a hit dying really fast but this is what a hit record is supposed to do it's supposed to live for the rest of the summer the summer ain't even over yet like come on hit record is supposed to live for the rest of your life like i still be like i saw the sign and like who the fuck are you talking about ace of base? ace of base life is still on my playlist i mean it does the mace of base songs do bang though cressa but i know what you mean like why the hell am i thinking about this song 20 some odd years later and yes what exactly because it's a hit and they played it the fuck out they forced me to love it facts just like how i want to work uh van twin blade says alpha one have a show on sunday now we will see if the fed is going to get ethan stupid rules to follow about working with a debi guys it's coming it's coming the politics are already there brother that's for sure you can cough here in the fed but you can't cough around them if we find out you coughed you're fine i wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the file for one show if ethan's not like this is the last offer one show you guys like it wouldn't surprise me one day we're closing our doors sorry you guys can't do my streaming show anymore they said no uh ten ruse also says uh just waiting for the next what's the dirt video what rap hip-hop pods youtube you watch this big boy tv or button any good who we are to appreciate that we talked a little bit about buttons recently yeah uh it's not what it was it was it used to be the best uh hip-hop podcast there is and it's still enjoyable it's just not what it was i think i think he still has like some of the best breakdowns and nationalism of um rap there is on like a big podcast um but yeah how do you feel about this whole power ranking fiasco it's like like they have the the streamer guy kyce and i or whatever his name is and it's like we're at bro the game with the game but like he he did like two interviews like he that's not his brand like no when i see him regularly he's doing like streaming stuff like he's doing stunts and stuff but he's not he didn't become like a hip-hop thing why is he in this like why who was number one i know i know but it was number two did you see number one um big act academics is number one oh yeah that list isn't valid order back the off the strength of that alone i'm sorry if you guys are not willing i don't know as far as like power rankings and what they're talking about i guess it makes sense like i don't i i don't like it i don't like it i don't want it i don't like it for what it means for the space in hip-hop media but in terms of the guy that's tapped in and people were reaching out to him to break news and break break records yeah act is the guy at the moment like in terms of like what they're talking about influence and impact this year during the beef how everybody was glued to their their uh computer to see what he thought about certain things i hate it but i was gonna say even if he was also the guy people were checking for it and i i don't like that that's where this is i don't like that you know i was good number one guy um i was uh listening to some some stuff from the spaces and somebody was saying that academics is a better hip-hop journalist than Elliot Wilson i was like oh we're good we're out of here we're done we're done and this was this was somebody in their 20s so they were they didn't understand you know how ignorant what they were saying is like they weren't here take me seriously right like they weren't here for what Elliot did and what made Elliot's popular they weren't here for double excel any of that stuff so they don't know that how wrong and uninformed that is but this is where we are right now the young the young folks don't care about that then i read magazines they're they're on streams they're listening to youtube videos Elliot was like number eight or something like he just yeah i think he was five or something like that but regardless just the fact that that's where our like academics is considered a journalist and somebody like Elliot is like oh that old dude he's he's he's irrelevant it's like oh this is the game is the game that's the phrase of the day ladies and gentlemen listen not for nothing around one day we're going to talk about how we've we've dual branded this thing and ain't nobody gave another conversation for another day i do want my motherfucking credit though that's all i'm saying i was sprinkled in say before i was working at bifil and i was just watching like wrestling stuff this gave me my um black hanging out with my cousin's experience i gotta tell you so even if it's not just hip-hop this is scary culture this is i mean a lot of people are like you guys tell us about basketball you guys introduce us all they're saying i'm like yeah but we're not just be talking to you that's like it ain't even no contrite effort we're just like hey you watch that yeah i didn't watch that but you know talk about it yes but yeah academics i understand why he's number one in power ranking i just don't like what it means for media that's it yeah i don't like it at all was the homegirl on there i didn't check what's her name bobby uh what's her face what's she on the bob and bobby aunt aunt and all for whatever uh i don't know i i i look like it's like if that's what if if this is the criteria like shouldn't she be yeah i know like uh rory and maw one there um that's five a few other streamer guys on there but i don't know it's less time you guys i am so but bobby autof is what you're talking about autof yeah yeah it's less time uh we're we're into uh pw 500 talk we're into uh bw 500 talk like okay because we're about to be very mad at me here so excited about it this is why nobody likes this fucking podcast i make i'll make your stupid lists you don't include me this is the problem with you guys you think you know every fucking thing the best part is like people probably think kresta is joking but that's i've heard this conversation bro i'm not gonna say nothing but i went to an indy show and somebody really complained about that to me and i'm like yeah are you serious oh yeah that's about that okay yeah make us have beef with us i'm like wait you're beefing with me i don't even know you you took everything from me i don't even know who i don't know you why why why what did i take from me i can't take something from somebody i don't know i i told a i told him really a story uh over the uh a few days ago reg about uh certain somebody and i was like yeah i know i'm dude i don't really know bro that's how i well how embarrassing it doesn't be like you telling me like well they put me on a uro graph sit up like what does that reg why you put me in fuck up situation you airfield that's y'all kresta and dude kresta don't even have that this person kresta doesn't have to ask she's just like i'm like hey come on send send send to email where's the link at the end of the day i know i'm gonna be number one so i'm not worried i'm not worried i'm not worried kresta is number one on the bw 500 this year so get into it be mad oh but yeah the rest of your question tynrusa uh always watch drink champs they're my first uh pod to check out um old school i'm a grandpa kid and play have a podcast kid and play have a podcast now if you listen to that shit that's really dope for hip hop and uh quest love quest love supreme if you like go through like their history they have some of the best hip hop podcasts of all time their prodigy episode is one of my favorite their detre deejay premiere episode like legit one of their q-tip episode it might be my favorite podcast episode of anything ever so yeah yeah i kind of check out everything depending on what the topic is like if i just want uh to see how somebody's covering something like uh uh uh rob markman i was right markman's great yeah um he's kind of making me want to do some he does these like reaction video type thing where he's like gets into a top i'm like oh i kind of every now and then i'll pull up one app just to see what they're talking about yeah one app yeah but i just listen to them and go space um they they get into some good stuff there's a lot of a great hip hop podcast out there honestly at this point yeah for people that were there and or that are worth something um Jason ps3 says siempunk should have attacked drew during money in the bank ladder match yeah that's kind of how i felt to i'd have made more sense you know yeah i did like the spot that drew the last part of the money in the bank where jay's up there about to get the briefcase and drew throws the ladder at him like a javelin pretty sick yeah pretty sick funny drew was on one that match drew i'm not to say that drew deserves everything that happens but you can't tell a man who got injured i prayed for this and it happened they commented that's what i'm saying bro like you got into the match it like siempunk is in the or somewhere you didn't take him out and you thought he wasn't gonna pull up what are you doing you poke the bear like this is a guy that will not let go of a grudge you started this with him he made a t-shirt of the great like dog you thought it was just gonna be fun siempunk would would die and go to heaven be like yo what a bitch i drew man this is siempunk this guy holds grudges forever for like 25 years yeah you could be dead he's gonna be like fuck that guy yes you could be dead and he's still gonna be and you want to do with this with siempunk like i get it drew like you're getting your shit off but like this is siempunk he's calculated yeah uh brgolf says uh brine danson versus swerve mariah versus tony mercedes versus britt punk versus drew roman's return at summer slam there's so much amazing stuff in august yeah sounds like a big month for uh the grabs it's a good time to be a wrestling fan anybody go on to summer slam or are you going to summer slam krista is that in ohio well we're not going no we're not going i'm gonna be real with you after going to st louis chicago not chicago sorry illinois and there's nothing in the middle of america for me this y'all don't need to get sidewalks i'm good i'm sorry points are points are being made yeah those those are rural areas around illinois so what else place you can't pull up uh sorry sorry feel i said what i said they not like they're not those are not cities man like what are you expecting they'll place it they're not real cities man like yeah i i ain't talk i can't talk like that because some places in california are like that too and i'm like i can't be here i thought i feel about anything outside of new york city i'm like ooh brother what is that i can't pull up but yeah cleveland but uh yeah fill like the point that fill is making we're going to be on the post show for fightful for summer slam period summer slam summer summer walker what was that your your book of tea biggest party of the summer the summer uh t-rapt hc says action brawson album tough two niggas been rapping this year oh yeah i listen to a little bit of the brawson act he's into this like the production is awesome other sh*t for sure uh ny use 99 says first time getting to catch grabs city live in a hot minute kresta comes in from out of nowhere with a steel chair and drops uh i was going to say great for juice but um ginger ale the western ginger ale west india said kresta she's drinking some uh some grandma special ginger ale just tastes good to me i'm sorry the candidate drive with the fruit flash oh come on the banker right now they know how to get my people stop playing with me i'm like if they wanted to like end a bunch of black people like i know where they could put the formula i put it in some candidate drive put it in some oxtails stop not the artist i'm gonna go on i'm gonna other it was nice knowing you oh my god man to break it full circle that was a that was a common line of man you know where nothing you canada drive yep you canada to drive mmm bbl bailey that's not the same day not for nothing bailey that's an astainic woman don't let the name okay that's not a bbl that's a rose con millay bailey had to come out and tell y'all straight away like that they stopped these false accusations born born this way yeah false face oh sweet and i'll tell you that don't tell you that much she been had them yeah i'm saying bianca Layla says uh moriah may and tony storm equal equals absolute cinema that was fire and shout out to krista in the jojo gear i'm on the same hat salute to this good saturday appreciate you bianca appreciate you got the characters on the inside too y'all don't watch jojos i don't know if y'all animate oh i thought she might get out leave jojo i was like no i was like damn krista got the jojo head that's sick i want you right here i mean wrong but you don't know if you don't watch anime he's not a real weeb hottie like megan the shy she just read you the pony i said i said uh step the writer says after summer slam i need kody to move on from bloodline and get new opponents honestly kody has been in the wwe and only been with bloodline the whole time it's like aj styles back to bloodline yeah oh yeah i forgot i don't like you guys let's fight some more oh he did that they were brock less of that one time oh yeah yeah he was oh yeah brock we fought we don't we don't talk about brock less you know yeah he's not candid he's not candid on it you see when they put that uh summer slam list out and and they tried to like not put brock less new matches on now it's like i mean it was a big part of something dude did like ten main events in a row i think like imagine censoring your company around this guy and oopsie poopsies he's a piece of crap you know happens a lot in wrestling you know what happens a lot they got to edit a lot of footage around me smarts that's gonna be somebody's just permanent job at this point like can you edit out all the bad shit on it yeah just like it's somebody's job to you know scout and watch show the show diante swanay says uh i'm i'm always with love and positivity but let me talk my ish max wants a piece of shit always a piece of shit hope his food falls on the ground and swerve beat the best in the world who beat the best in the world he's the guy all of y'all yeah no phil and i've been saying for months we don't believe max we never believed him for one second of the day never hope his food falls on the ground is hilarious max castor mjf no mjf yeah no what about castor though cressa i don't he's talking about rap i'll just say if we talk about rap strictly yo put it down it's it's time it's time to put it down listen man big big money man he might have got in my body here with that video man no man he man he gave it to him i didn't bowl a cereal i think man uh he was like no let me let me let me let me take care of this right quick a little light work i let the man sware absolutely frying my home boy yo bro that was listen i did it but like and then you try to say that's cultural appropriation for my say to be like shut your ass up you can't not this time max i'm saying uh not cultural appropriation on this i'm brother he got you oh i'm sorry listen i've been feeling that way for a long time about max castor i that's it i don't have anything else to say i'm sorry i'm shutting up hey man do you think a claim is gonna be still in his blood and guts match what are you doing we're moving forward with him i gotta tell you me don't care i don't care i i want to i want to i want to but mass cast has been given like i'm gonna heel turn or something's going on with that character in particular where i'm like i don't know it's gonna what they represent it makes sense right home girls but somebody else wasn't available no literally somebody else wasn't nobody else wasn't available kind of exactly what happened where you at ball and uh it's working on instagram i thought that was said you that he got you here and you're twerking on the fucking internet dude what's going on here listen you gotta get the youth you gotta get the youth listen that's how you get them views uh littard arris the third says congrats at wwe over celebrated mid that they are and will continue to be for oversaturated in the landscape with their over hyped mid bricks and heights and the in one parade of nobodies to impact bro bro yo all right not so much like that's crazy that's crazy i mean i mean that the trade-off has been kind of wild bro like hey look we're gonna we're gonna get your your champion jordan grace we're gonna get one of your most over guys and joe henry hey man take 10 impacts lee though yeah let me tell you something what's the name of time in wwe history where they haven't hold tna i wait we thought this is gonna be different that's it that's all i do not i do not they didn't take the whole main roster yet i mean their whole main event scene yet so please please okay i mean but i mean that's kind of the bit with tna they don't have like uh they ain't gonna they have a real main event they have to snatch that shut up have you bought had your boy moose pulled up yet moose has he crossed over yet who's all wrestle moose over fanny i think that match would be fire i'm sure yeah two big niggas i'm with it beat beat that's a ox tail centric max two ox two ox two ox niggas tenrods also says tk tweeting that t two a.m he's feeling good about twenty twenty four and a w he's cooking something last-minute motor city machine done signing slash tv deal what do you want a w what do you want in a w going into twenty twenty five i want the tag division i want the motor city machine guns yeah exactly get the tag division cooking again like that's the last missing piece over there that's it honestly like we talked for so many months for a year straight on how we want it the women's division to get better and like you guys have improved their stories with that there's non title stories going on now it's the tag division that like this company was built off tag team wrestling like yeah the tag team that i want to be tag team champions are the tag team champions let's do something with it i know they're building towards blood and guts i know what's happening here but we should also have some side stories talking about these championships yeah please yeah i am very curious to see who will be the first chapanese a w world champion got some good options with the kashita um i think the kashita he's got a strong argument in it kato you know we have a one of the greatest japanese wrestlers of all time so that you know i'm i'm sure that they will start building towards that by 2025 what do you guys think about the uh the i always think about the middle championships the tnt the international and the continental i want something more do when people talk about too many championships those are always the ones i focus on because i feel like those all kind of accomplish the same things but they're not utilizing that like when's the last time ocada defended the bell like you know what i mean it's like you have these belts and they're just they're just they feel like props um yeah i mean he was until he got pulled into this uh team aw versus team elite stuff and i just feel like this storyline has kind of gone on too long um i was just thinking about that last night when uh we saw the quote from tony where he's saying we're gonna get a women's blood and guts match one year and i was like this was probably the year to do it because you could have uh not to drag them i feel like this the year you could have done it because you could have stopped the aw versus elite thing with the anarchy of the arena and i wouldn't have been mad at it and you could have used the blood that was a blast man yeah you could use the blood and the guts match for the women you got enough feuds going with the women where you could have set up two sides the only thing i like about the men's blood and guts is just setting up swerve like he should be involved in aw versus somebody thing but they could have maybe happened a little bit sooner so i don't really know you know what i mean like the match is gonna be fine but yeah i'm kind of ready for a women's blood and guts match too i guess is the but it's like who would be in it and i just i can all i can think of is a royal age invading aEW quote unquote and have a thina billy starks uh queen uh one queen i'm not a don't jack with those girls because they're mean but you know what i mean like those type of girls and then you got like ooh great bacon thunder rolls are not gonna be on the same team no no no the story there makes all the sense prime day is coming july 16th and 17th with epic deals exclusively for prime members you'll feel like you just won an award oh wow i didn't even prepare a speech uh i'd like to thank my family for always needing stuff uh also sam my delivery guy for bringing all my 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upward at mossadams.com the world you got you got certain baby faces they already have dance partners on the other side um just have tony will oh rosa not de rosa britte no britte would be on the other side i'm like that they're real britte's not going to sound really funny no britte's on the baby face side but i thought thunder russell don't fuck with britte good that's part of the story the match is getting that oh yeah oh i can't they co-exist yeah and then on the hillside it's all the people's that are heels against them statlander um recidies and mariah i'm not mad at that it would have been hard to put that well that would have to have been after because tony and mariah thing yeah that just happened yeah they haven't had the official match yet so but you could have done the ww think of all right well soon is soon as tony gets in a rain mariah runs away and then they create all excuses for them to not touch each other you get the Dakota Kai open up the case and kick the shit off that next girl it could have worked it could have worked it could have worked it could have booked it uh step the writer also says when randy orton declared his undying loyalty i thought he was turning on kody kody or getting murdered yeah he's gonna turn on kody it's it's inevitable yeah trusting randy orton in 2024 claunery and claunery don't do that uh van twin blade says big ups to crest is joe doe hat not the same not leave get out we've established that right now wait red you don't watch anime no i don't watch anime i think you would like joe joe why would why would you think that rich watch his anime he does not look like an anime fan at all i don't look like i know mad people don't look like anime no no you look like an anime fan that's what he's talking about you do look like an anime fan you do look like an anime fan crescent crest up wrestling takes up that like there's that block it takes up all of that block that's fair that's fair and then there's the rest of life i can't like i can't i try to get in the video games i can't i try to get i just can't like wrestling is so much that i can't have anything else that's fair that's how i am wrestling too but wrestling and rupaul and they're the same thing to me so i could watch them both so you know one time i went with my friends in west hollywood we watched the the season premiere of dragaways and that i've never like i've been to wrestling shows and i've never seen this anything as wild as that bar for that season premiere like i was like we got this shit was crazy i'm saying yeah y'all got y'all like it's like people are stoked they're hanging off the rappers they're cheering shit with you know like it's so crazy it is so serious because if you really think about drag queens and wrestling drag queens before you get our rupaul's drag race you in the indies and mad people know you're trying to fucking indies so when you get our rupaul's drag race which is the fed you like because rupaul is vincic man for better for where it's taking how you want it like it's an old crazy person out of touch making the young people do flippy duels vincic man anywho anywho when you finally see people get on it's like oh my god and people have amazing careers afterwards imagine though with john cedar before he was john cedar or go into that glasgo show where you got to see Drew McIntyre thank you i was going to see him on rupaul people be talking about some of the drags like uh drag queens like i'd be talking about brian dangels and before he like they went through this they went through this i can't believe i'm like yo we both drag race has really changed the world that's what that is like having a line it's like the challenge for sports and shit yeah yeah yeah i i feel this was more wrestling because the edge reality but the other wrestlers only difference is your death dropping versus dropping dead i mean sometimes i'll be saying better promos on drag race than i see i'm wrestling so i get it i see the promo sometimes i'm like damn i'm like cooking yeah four promos and two of them for drag race i live rent free in my mom okay and i can recite that one as much as i can recite you know that all men are created equal but you need someone with joe you can see that statement it's not true so i was fair y'all i was fair y'all hey what's over there says uh do you guys think that the move to that when nxt moves to cw that they would go back to wednesday nights i forgot nxt was no i wouldn't think so i think i think they like tuesday and it just feels like uh cw show on tuesday i don't know that that time slot feels right for them yep um speed punk says did you guys watch mlw last night we did not two of my favorite matches were king cruel or cruel versus matt justice and the opera cup first round kenta versus bobby fish those rules i think that's streamed for free on youtube and if it did i will check that out yeah i haven't seen it but i didn't see it i didn't know bobby fish was out here resting for real for uh um i like mlw but they're not first over anybody like they're like oh yeah like mlw then i'll check that out man's crueger man yeah yeah that's where the homie jkafatu the cutest teeth and got his shit in so they do got a lot of good stuff going on i like like a lot of people over there so i will check it out uh delay gretz says w is about to sign the rampage droppers listen somebody got we all got to go somewhere this people get their money come on listen all i heard was sign and that means some wrestlers getting the big bag and that's all i care about that's right like we could sit here and fight all day about where people should have been and what they should have did somebody got paid from a wrestling company that don't be trying to pay people let's get it mattley getting paid to sit in the back mm-hmm gets to be in america like it's all kind of shit you get to experience it like we should be happy for these people uh smiley bw are our friend says uh afternoon black folks everyone is hope everyone is doing well wrestling is awesome right now i don't know why people complain like shut the fuck up it's saturday it's 95 degrees i'm gonna get my nails done higher edgy high tracy my friend i feel like you're doing well you didn't read that right what happened what i said it's saturday it's 95 degrees i'm gonna go get my nails done how red jeans yeah i did not read it that same way but i don't i don't see you reading it that way it does not be i'd agree um yeah i laughed at smiley uh earlier this week because i saw the uh the niece tweet where she was like congratulations smiling and winning this senior shirt and i was like wait i know this person let me tell you it's exactly how i'm like wait this some worlds are colliding here oh tracy that's my friend and Denise is awesome my friend what's going on here this is great the niece of this cat too like what's going on over there like what's going on with her over there the cat luckily she had to give the cat back but she is officially cat lay like i wouldn't be surprised if like this weekend she doesn't go and adopt a cat like it got her ass senison is cat saga is almost as interesting as stone cold and being a cat dad and stone cold got the cat dad the cat saga too man the cats are taking over the world no the the funniest cat saga i've seen is tears Howard and his cats that he was like trying to get people to adopt you never seen this no i'm doing the first i'm hearing about this it's so now it's not each other stuff yeah that's an IG clip of like terrace hower laying on the bed he's got like a bunch of kittens all over him and they're like rub it all over his face he's like petting him i was like what is this that sounds crazy i don't want to attack you've never seen this yet it's hilarious very light skin y'all don't want to catch me it sounds super light skin you're so right he's on the bed with a bunch of cats over him yeah bro it's it's wild bro anybody else hot i'm hot uh our homie will chism says when jacob was looking crazy and dancing the solo theme last night it popped me that man is the truth i'm telling you that transformation that jacob makes from like i'll kill you to like i'm having a good time out here is like so great him and jimmy are the most unserious oozes i've ever met my ever seen in my entire life oh i can't wait for their interactions damn two unserious motherfucker that's going to be well chism also says what y'all think of bad blood teaser with metron kody i don't know why i laugh and look like they hotbox the car elo yeah we talked about it a little bit i don't see kody hotbox i mean what what was he doing for they came in there did that uh scrum they was doing something oh that's where i forgot about that him and jay were lit that one i mean to be fair to be fair kody world's name is kody vontaneous luther jamal roads rajigas so i mean i know that uh big dust was definitely spoke as some big dust so shut up shut up all right okay all right sorry dusty i love you man i'm just making sure that that's what i said it's pressed to make red watch keen keen keen keen in ku ku ku what is that yo i don't even know what that is i'm not gonna lie it's not gonna lie i don't even know what that is can you come in can you come in can you come in can you come in can you come in ultimate muscle it's wrestling and anime all check it out i don't know what that is i've heard of ultimate muscle but i didn't know that i didn't know the name but yeah that's the official title i mean we can watch maybe do a watch along make make regen nerd that is new is is like anytime i'm like thinking about it i like my friend is into it and other people are into it it's just so much like i can't just like watch one like you gotta watch like 100 episodes of this thing and like i don't want to hold on i will never bully you to watch your nay rootin should put in or one piece because those are the most egregious ones that's uh for always bring those everything like you got to watch 150 episodes and then in that 150 episode that's when it gets good i'm like what i'm already addicted to crack with wrestling and rupaul's drag race you okay what i'll give you a solid 12 episode one or a nine episode what made it a two thing okay if i could get into like an eight or nine i could do it but if i gotta watch 25 30 50 90 i can't joe joe's is an extended run but it's not that far and honestly i'm just basing it off dragon ball z because i like my cousin that's the history of it is just like my brain just says anime dragon ball z you know fair i would say i think if you want to just at least watch a movie i would suggest to the both of you i think a kara would be cute it's an older movie but it's what do you mean the both of us like i've seen a kara thousand i know you can't you can't recommend to fill he's i'm sorry my apologies my apologies i'll watch it though yeah kara i think would be up your alley what's your favorite uh number one uh anime fill do you have a number one i know that's hard that's that's slow you know it's pretty you might be deaf note deaf note that's a long ass one no that's easy breezy and then what's sure it's crusted sailor moon sailor moon's number one i i mean death note is good if you're cerebral for me at least i i got to episode three i was like yo this no you no you no you're like i can't i can't i can't uh def def note is essentially like if uh breaking bad was an anime oh okay that's a good analogy good description yeah good description i like that imagine you had all this power you could write someone's name in a note or you talk it shit to me online yo you seven hundred takes the arrow to the dick and dies okay yeah i like that that's a good description number two uh david reade says don't think they claim our own boy and gut hangman disrespect towards rene wednesday makes me think at least to mocks returning that was nasty work oh yeah we don't like we don't like that hangman like none of us like that at all i don't like that at all i i i chuckled this week as well at people on twitter like hangman's not a not a heel he hasn't done anything wrong what are you guys talking about he's he he spent on jeff jerett standing next to hey what do you mean like he's a heel he's a bad guy what are you talking about jeff jerett standing next to the trophy crying about his friend and hangman's spits on his foot oh no he's not a heel he just uh he's just don't like that jerett is jeff jerett like you won't go for five minutes jeff jerett i didn't forget yep i didn't cry and i'm like no it doesn't matter she's jerett i can't believe people are doing it he's not bad guys like though he's doing very bad guy things what do you mean and then yeah the pernay thing like we know a few disrespect were named uh come on yeah you don't play that and then uh markasem says if there is a third women's match at all in on the all-in card what should it be willow or chris or a multi-women match Athena doing something if she's healed by them and that's how i feel she's your longest reigning champion do something with our age you piss me off i think i i have to assume willow chris might be on all-out card at least like the pre-show match yeah yeah i have to assume it's probably going to be on all-out crowd on an all-out card instead of all-in if i had to guess but oh you said all-out yeah yeah not all-out yeah i would i would think that i i agree with with phil sand the next two weeks after all-in um yeah we talked to do we talk a little bit about this on uh ask rhapsody of like we could potentially see serrhea get a match like i wouldn't be good most surprised if she got one would not be shocked enough yeah you know like they gave her the big moment last year but like oh do again i don't know yeah i mean especially harvard hammering on the same team so yeah yeah like a pre-show match or something just just for the big pop yeah i i do think it was nasty that they played an emmy's face didn't give emmy the match last year and then has serrhea come out with the queen music i'm like come on show everybody's playing everybody coming out with the the freddy mercury gear to i'm like oh yeah they was playing around play all the emmy face man emmy been on every show trying to get this over y'all really the freddy mercury that's my shit don't forget people forgot that's all of our super chats appreciate appreciate y'all oh no uh we have a bunch of hopper chats to get into the rest of the show is just temper chats before we do that gonna hit you guys with a word from our sponsors what's up you guys shan rassap fightful here to tell you about pet online ag the highest credit card acceptance industry wide 25 plus year track record safe and secure online environments pay outs in minutes the fastest in the industry you can bet big with their high limits and rebat functionality the earliest line so odds open before the competition the industry's best 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you can do one for me because like i want to be involved too i'm going to say i'm sorry rat because i see the anime recommendations coming in the chat i'm so sorry i don't know i started i'm so sorry this is exactly what i was talking to us always too much you don't watch anime i appreciate y'all y'all are great just saying i don't have time i'll make a listen to your recommendations he'll put it on the vwi also like what do you find anime at like on youtube no it's pretty easy to find in 2024 if there's big community platforms dedicated directly for anime it's okay by the anime on Netflix country role oh yeah i do actually see a lot of Netflix anime actually i'm not thinking about it yeah you can watch anime on hulu i believe yeah just google it that's what i do if i want to look at something i think i want to say lemme crystal on um crunchy roll or something like that or anime central says there's a million sites you can so so you do like crystal because there's a big part of fan base that hates it i am a sailor moon stand there's nothing a less sailor moon even even a sailor moon shitter on a and clap i would probably still watch it and i'm a stand so yeah there are people that absolutely hate it i think it's like the art style or something about it that people don't like but they're the whole sect of the fan that thinks that crystal is garbage well crystal to me was more along lines with the original not the american version so do with that information as you will forget we're weird american version where we're supposed to believe that these people that are very intimate each other are cousins and those are cousins like levians like cousins anime there you go anime baby ruin their anime talk for the day you guys megan this time is the only other time regis going to talk about it for like if megan's like i need you to know about anime right now like i'm make out everybody doing that the dance challenge with with the salamoon outfit she had on in the tiktok like everybody's doing like the salamoon hands now like there's a thing doing that like so i have to scroll past megan starting veals fast i just like i need i need minutes i need my time like i can't just sit here and watch these videos all the i saw a kary hillson video yesterday i was like kary hillson leave me alone i need to i need to you i need the rest of my day to not watch this video i've i've seen the same kary houston video no i'm gonna find this kary hillson video brother brother i was like listen i need to do stuff with the rest of my day kary hill there's there's a video for just like walking up uh behind behind the stage you're getting ready to go on stage and it's like for whatever reason taking her two minutes to walk up to the stage walking so long like the whole time i'm like this is um like i can't watch this anymore leave me alone kary hillson have shit to do she is just uh yeah we've got a bunch of humper chests we didn't get into any of them humpy uh before wait a minute before we get into our humper chests um rear Ripley is back oh rear's back yep uh they basically slow walk the dog what's this for a little bit uh they tee this up on this week's episode of raw and that was a big cliffhanger that rear Ripley is back um Dom got caught in a very compromising situation uh and live immediately got out of there um but yeah rear Ripley the way that live ran out of there i'm like okay i'll see what you're doing you know i've seen women do this before live and whoo diabolical from jump and poor Dom like i don't know i don't know how this is happening and i've seen the people in Dom's position before two of like oh shit i'm into deep like yeah i'm like i don't know you was watching this you bro you just just tell the truth like yo listen i like you you got to go you crazy my girlfriend's crazier though so now you know everyone's dying but but you know she knows that your girlfriend's crazy and she's with it that it's an axe other added extra element you know but you know look all of this is filmed Dom can easily be like i didn't want any of this i've been saying this for like two months that i didn't want none of this true i'm a co-carly girl here why are you hard that's cool you know why was carly though the guy that noticed that by the way that was kind of like even if he even if there's video evidence and you tell a woman you think she cares i didn't care you think she's still gonna care even with video that's crazy how he asks you fill a man that's crazy i'm just saying you know how they're working she ain't gonna care sure i don't care what you said i don't care what you did i saw y'all in the ring laying on top of each other and both of y'all are dead it'd be one thing if it was just that but there were mad times you could have told her like hey what you doing talking to my girlfriend what's your name girlfriend rear ripley is my name there were mad things you could have done but you did she not here though crested she gone okay now your girlfriend out of jail what's you gonna do listen man long distance relationships are all right man i'm saying look i she not here right now like we're not doing everything that me and my girl do but like you know that's diabolical we're not doing the same thing but we're hanging out though you're not on that it's cool she bringing me chicken nuggets like she got she got she got she got my friends some tag title matches like she opened the boys out she got us a video game like i mean and live also could very easily drop her version of the hangman promo like wait a minute why am i the bad guy here this person years ago in this person years ago she's the one that that joined judgment day and turned on me then she injured me cost me the tag titles all of these things before this like why why am i the bad guy that's true yeah object permanence yeah why am i the bad guy we forgot go because y'all like rea now like that is it changed like that i mean i worked on Dom remember when she was choking out Dom for months and now he's a boyfriend yeah it'd be like that my question is okay so rea rippley's back was live a placeholder with that championship does the championship go immediately back to rea to rea yes far be it for me to say damn it does that does that suck for live or is that okay she got she got a good run overall where she was like a main character she was a part of a main storyline even if she doesn't be there at somber slam it's inevitable rea is going to win it about definitely yeah i always come back to live morgan to that becky lynch promo when she was like you're gonna spend months making these people believe in you just for you to get the title for them like i get the shit off of her and it happens every time every time um but yeah i i think the storyline that they've done was live is good but no you could see she's only had what like two title defenses over three months like this was no contenders at all besides rea no this was all built around rea coming back and getting her title matches somber slam if she was what if live what if live jbl's it for rea every time and just like i'm running up the ramp i don't care if you win but i still gotta pretend and that's the only way i can see it i go to make a see it happen you can jbl it jbl it baby but now it's inevitable rea is getting that build back so fast like they didn't even want her to lose it coming like it's coming or do you feel like do do you feel like they felt like they needed to put this on live to do that like is she gonna be champion again i guess it's my question live yeah uh maybe somewhere down the line but yeah i feel like all of this is just set up for the build for summer slam and i mean it actually kind of worked out in their favor because the fans wanted live to have to match it wrestling mania and you got a few months of build out of this now you have a really good uh rivalry going into summer slam and you got a big match around this uh title but i just wish they would have given her matches in between some more yeah what is Tiffany stratton cashes in during their match oh a cash in i just thought about what she's on smackdown she got the she can do whatever she wants i'm trying to i'm trying a big brain and i'm sorry i'm sorry um but i do think it makes more sense for her to cash in arria than it does for bailey honestly yeah it does i would cash in on live oh no no i'm gonna let i'm gonna let ria be her first i don't cast it on all those like ria ria i mean because there's still so many like all the big matches going into the future of like manian stuff is all around ria and not around like i like live but like the game is ria here the game is the game the game is the game ria riffle but it's nobody she got a huge pop coming back there's been a couple of weeks like during uh money in the bank people were convinced that aj lee was returning i'm like these rumors start online and like before on monday everybody's like ria's coming back tonight ria's coming back to like where do you guys get this from is it just people i think it's just people help i said it it's just to trust me bro source me and then when it happens they could be like i did it so it's just like they're throwing shit at the wall type of yeah i mean it seems like they're if anything they're building with a legend they're very much getting people to think that tiffany versus trish stratus can happen they are yeah wow trish has been showing up not maybe i had to watch and exceed that's the this along the short of it because i don't know what's going on i'm just like why but i don't know why people maybe because punk is back they think that now it's not that far-fetched the aj could come back but it just seems like that's what people are hoping for more than actually happening uh like punk got asked about it on the scrum and that's crazy he he was just like well i can't answer for her guys yeah i'm like where do people getting this from i didn't understand let me ask you a question sir yeah it's actually about your wife yeah right i was like what's your wife oh i'll probably let her answer that question great match anyway what's your wife coming back that's exactly how it happens that's crazy okay great pop-up there but uh when's your wife coming here because yeah we don't care about you christian mingle punk what's where's a jay's leaf that was that was wild about that uh rolyn segment as well where punk is just like listen you never let anybody talk about your wife and your kid that's this guy took my bracelet with my wife and my dog on it yeah may not mean anything to you but it means something to me that's my wife and my dog i'm like i'm pretty sure that's what everybody uses against Seth Rollins now when they're in a feud with him they say i was like your wife has better than you like that we've heard roman say that like what do you mean everybody says that sounds like she may be better than me but i'm sorry champion fuck how do you just do one what's going on but becky sorry but yeah becky's chill is she at whole taking a thoughtful pose is like this yeah me yeah to to your point somebody just asked rolyn's about becky in an interview during the weekend good match Seth though what's your wife you lost the belt you lost the match and you lost all this but what's up with your wife though was yeah so it's gonna happen that's so fucking rude that's crazy ain't it you just fall for you like you just put your life on the line and the rest of it what's your what's up with your wife though bro you messes with a match of the year 87 stars in tokyo dough that's great y'all what the fuck is your wife your wife uh yeah your wife that we're trying to hear uh light it up speaking of resigns we heard that uh nadie naid heart is uh officially back with the wwe she uh did some teasers that she was gonna go somewhere else and she was like actually online i'm still here wait that's a lifer that's a life right there wait wait wait wait did i thought people were trying to tee up this uh open challenge next week with grace and nadie that's what i heard too man not not happening no that uh the mercedes open challenge because she's doing uh anybody but britt open challenge yep not gonna be nadie she's not gonna be there not gonna be there at all she about to be at home with her husband yeah now that that hashtag is very funny to you first before you see nadie there no no that that hashtag is hilarious to you every time uh mercedes does anybody but britt hilarious bro that's how i feel sometimes about our mayor in new york anyone but eric adam shit i'll do it i'll do it anyway anyone but this guy you're gonna get uh i saw you guys are getting trash cans i'm like wait they didn't have trash cans what was going on i'm gonna stop just throwing the big bags of garbage on the card right where the hell it's going on before y'all are still throwing bags yes they are have you been to new york i have seen this before you cook us before you cook us i sanitation run seven days a week so them bags is only there for three hours we were getting them the same day okay y'all gotta put it out on Tuesdays and Wednesdays fuck out of here i still gotta see it though i still gotta walk down this random street and see this big bag of garbage sitting down front of somebody else just out there this raw dog that's trash just throw it out there apparently that was because it was a sanitation strike in new york's that fuck y'all gotta give y'all tears that fuck i feel like they do the sanitation sanitation sanitation strike every year for the last 40 years like every time i read about news they're like we're we're done here man bring the trash cans and it's how do you not have fresh cans it's it just be stinking and your whole way rolled it out like he had a been the treasure he was a smile looking to the side if you look like a uncle tom in the dictionary you see this man willing that trash can with tea and everything i hate that guy oh they had him he was on drink champs and i was like uh this is my whole city what are you doing yeah yeah we supposed to begin the buying interview right with uh speedy i heard about that good for speedy you know the interviews don't be hitting the way they used to i just say when george not george when bill clay it was playing the saxophone or our cineode out you know it doesn't it doesn't be like we got real issues going on now what are you doing questions yeah no i don't i don't need a few i drink gas i need you to be doing something for real yeah i i need you to work on them stairs as you keep falling up sir and i want to hear what rakim was doing not what you like i haven't got the policies niggas i don't want to be here right here i know what do you think about the m&m about we're going out of drinking kin drink i don't want to know about that bro i want to know how to go in some laws come here made food yeah suppose we have to get into our hopper chest because we have a lot of now should we get into cena before we get into that because we didn't get as cena talking about the pay-per-view no we did not the cena the cena thing was also one of big stories i was saving that for after we talked about it because it's probably it's its own thing because of course it's cena and it's a pretty massive deal it's pretty bad he came out and told us he's retiring he's not here even though i thought he's been retired for the last five years i don't know no he's a part timer that's different oh that's different okay i got you uh well yeah he effectively said he will he will be retiring in 2025 correct yep and he's gonna do they he said he's gonna do like 30 dates or something so he's like it's a retirement tour he's he's doing the coby fairwell tour um he's biting off a danny's and um so it's gonna be way different than that no definitely gonna be way way different um but yeah he's doing the fairwell tour um he came out on the pay-per-view and let us know that he's retiring and then he told us he would be fielding questions during the press conference and he definitely fielded a lot of questions um a lot of people were getting their questions in uh the handle it was like john listen you're over time get out he definitely pulled out my homie tk and being like actually i'm gonna take questions from every single person in here who else didn't get a chance to ask the question yet right wait did that ask a question why this this shouldn't have been nearly as funny as it was but when when john pollock asked him about vince and he was just like well you know i answered that question um i'm sure if you wanted to find what i said to that that's out there uh you know i don't want to re get back into it but it's out there i i give it my opinion of it it's out there thanks thanks for acting though you know thank you know he makes sure to say it's out there so i'm not talking about it right now i'm not gonna get into it but it's it's out there you know you know you know you take google it exactly yeah it did close and get with it hey man appreciate the courage appreciate the courage that's such a seen-ass answer too yeah i mean uh shout out to john pollock for answer the question but see the it wasn't that funny you saying it made a way well like no no when he was saying that i would die laugh and i was like i should not think this is funny because it's like a serious thing and he should not be like five step in this vince question but the way that he did it in a very seen away very funny man very close there with appreciate the courage killed me that's the mantra of mercy off the backs of that because people were saying uh did you see that this week crested people were like why are they killing the vibes like we had a really good show why are you asking about i'm like y'all i'm talking about vibes dude and was it a really good show like i and it wasn't a really good show come on my vibes you're messing with my chakra right now yeah i have a good time no we asking about sexual assault i'm like dog i there is a time in a place and i think this is the time in the place big dog literal press conference right you know what i mean like when are you when else are you going to get the opportunity to ask fucking Paula back up maybe stop asking fucking questions don't you know let's talk about this serious question serious questions only serious questions only and then we have no question i'll now you need to ask more fun questions ask one question let me ask more fun question okay we i'm just going to do a lot of questions how come i couldn't see you all this time and now you announce you retire and i can see you this is malarkey malarkey now now i'm getting the serious questions i'm asking those are kind of the questions that it started out with like just like what did you like worrying about how did you like wearing a green shirt john cena green like that that's not really a question dude but like i feel you yeah that that everything about that bit was funny punk coming out and saying uh it felt like old times i got to sit back there in a green room and watch uh cena go over time again that's crazy that wasn't hilarious everything about it was pretty funny uh but wild to think about this guy that started wrestling like in modern times is retiring we've seen this guy live out his entire career and just seeing him from like the ruthless aggression era up to today and this guy is wrapping it up it's wild to think about i've uh i remember watching there was a special john cena trained at this place u p w oh two in california they had a special on some chan i remember i had the videotape of the special and they had a bunch of students and john cena was one of the students the prototype i remember watching him and then in bakersfield i went to a house show on bakersfield one time in 2002 it had to be and the dark match was john cena low tights i was like i remember that guy from that show and then like three months later he was on tv and became the biggest guy of all time um i think as far as like wwe home grown this guy is a wwe superstar john cena is on the fucking worst moor it's like ogan sewn cold fucking you know john cena you know i'd be like he deserved there too like the run that even beyond all those guys like i always talk about this stone cold was hot from like 96 97 98 like the part of that was like the rock was on top for a lot of that cena was on top for like 15 straight years like there was like randy on an edge but all of that time cena was the main guy the number one guy in this company for 15 straight years john cena and like he did everything there is to do in this company like he and then beyond that he like transcended it like i used to work in education and like i'm wrestling guy and i would talk about with the kids i'd be like hey do you guys know john cena and they all knew john cena zero of them knew him from wrestling though they'd all be like i know john cena the rapper guy yeah i'm like but what about wrestling they'd be like what's wrestling and i'm like what what do you mean like this car move from that my unsended wrestling on top of that too so it's like what what a fucking career man he's definitely the closest to hogan and what hogan meant for early w w of this era fan base 1000 percent i mean it's fitting that he's doing the kobe fair welter as well because i mean i talked about when kobe retired and how much i was not a kobe fan like i ate a kobe but when he finished basketball i had this like weird feeling i'm like damn who do i boo now who do i root against because i i rooted against this guy for so long and a big part of my fandom was not liking him and seeing this kind of the same way where a lot of people's fandom was built around not liking this guy and so the idea that he's had this whole successful career and he's going away it's just weird it's like a part of the reason that i stopped watching wrestling was the ruthless aggression era was just not for me i was not a cena guy and a big part of the reason i'm a punk guy is that he he restored the feeling for me when he came back and was like that guy's not the best i'm the best get him out of here i was like yes finally get him the fuck out of here like this man up and so seeing this like again seeing just where he's been and like coming to appreciate him over time and having this fair welter of like man this guy was like on top for a long time like i know we have all the memes of this guy ruin people like the nexus and like he that's all i think of when i think i was there i was at that summer slam yeah he stunted some people's momentum but at the same time like think of what he's done for other guys like a big part of see uh AJ's time in the company if the scene a feud and what he did for AJ how to help put AJ over with that fan base um he did help put some guys over i mean what he did for rvd um so many guys like again i know when i'm part of brandy on an edge he like helped make those guys legends yes yes i mean and so i know it's there's certain memes about it of course there's always going to be a sect of fans that are never going to give him his credit but man this guy's done it he's done everything there is to do like he said transcend it wrestling has had a whole acting career he just had a cameo in the bear like the full circle every time i watch a movie like i'll pull up like a random movie on hulu or netflix cameo 100 percent of the time john cena like i swear i'm like this whole again that's crazy he's like so rock remember how the rock was like early 2000 he was everywhere like out of him bro this falls here again like great job cena but damn yeah uh but man it's it's okay it's just wild seeing it just think about like we've lived through his entire career it's yeah his whole thing was on tv and like some wrestling fans when wrestling fans are like i started watching wrestling in 2009 i started watching wrestling in 2013 all that is john cena like some people's first memory of pro wrestling is seeing john cena be john cena and like that man that's gone now like he's he's like that part of wrestling history is going to be you know better way it's kind of wild you making me an old rush i'm like i know it's fucked up i see the vibe as well like you this what this does for the business and this goes into like what isn't it isn't a draw and who is a top star like telling everybody a year of this guy having kids farewell tour that's going to sell a big ticket that's going to be a big sale for wrestling mania a lot of people are going to make the trip to wrestling mania because now you know that's his last russell mania i mean on our side the content game the amount of content is going to get churned out about cena over the next year that's going to be your boys gonna try to get an interview i mean yeah do you think he's going to try and break rick flairs record in this fair will tour enough people are he's sick he's tired so he needs one more and that's one of the world champion or world championship yeah um i think with how i all week i've been seeing people say make him the champion and i think with how people have that people are excited about it and it's kind of become a topic of conversation i'm like i probably would have it like it wouldn't be the most shocking thing um i think that alone is a great premise for the match with cody because i think we are going to get the cody match and then co the thing from a few months ago remember cody whispered in his ear during the entrance and all that shit so yeah he endorsed cody uh but i think that that's a great premise for the cody match and there's a great premise for cody to go over him there's typically a stuff you can do with that um he also said in this that he doesn't have a list of people he wants to wrestle which i totally don't believe that's cat that's cat that's what that is i don't know when he said that i'm like all right dude oh yeah no i'm not making any choices i don't care i'm like not yeah all right yeah okay yeah yeah all right i mean and i even if you don't do the cody match you try to build up this him breaking the record give us the gun through match give us gun through mercilessly beating this man you want to see cody get his ass beat because of what it's going to do listen what it's going to do for uh gunther um we've had to go through that whole u.s title run and him going to get the foreign heel and what that did for miro but he actually beat miro no the the full circle moment of this in his fair world tour of being beaten by gunther makes all the sense in the world they should do it i mean i want to see gunther kill him too joncino was mr america before cody you know that it makes sense yeah yeah totally it does make sense to have gunther slap his nipples off if let's say he's let's say jonc does not like who do you think wwe's gonna book this guy again it's like all the usual suspect it is there's thousands yeah well there'll be anything shocking will there be any ones where we're like m i didn't know they think they would do this um what i think the most shocking thing that they can do um is do the punk magic because nobody thought that magic would happen again that would be cute that would be true so i i think that could happen i of course i think we're probably going to get a randy orton match somewhere down the line of course of course um he said he's going to do the royal rumble so that's gonna be there's gonna be there's gonna they're gonna sell a lot of fucking tickets i know that yeah uh how long man i wonder how long lashley's gonna be out because that's a big win that they should do as well actually as well um hey wonder if old boy got out from behind that commentary does mr way bad try to get his lip back for the next is that you think we're gonna get a uh a mis exchange of some kind i don't need to see a match but i think we'll see an exchange from something you have not a match i don't i we don't we don't nobody want that yeah there's not some of them run back some like no i don't do like don't do a solo match again that one was the one and then like don't do another austin theory match i was like you're trying to it seemed like they tried to send your boy face look cool austin theory i mean austin theory i at first i was like he sucks but i'm a little sympathetic to him it's not his fault he was okay people like you're right you're okay in the way but once vids did whatever fuck he did to be like yeah that's a such a punchable face though he's a heel he's a heel boy that's why i just can't get behind face awesome there i never will rotary strong has the same problem as a very punchable thing yeah same thing with rotary there's there's that those that genre of guy it's like i can't mjf is the same i could punch exactly i'm not gonna cheer for you dude i want to punch you yeah uh try to think other newer guys that they could put them in there with um i think mellow makes a lot of sense i was thinking that too someone knew mellow does kind of like fit and like that well inevitably logan paul it feels like oh yeah logan paul has already talked about it so yeah yeah and on the long lows lines i think uh la could get one too i'd rather see la night i'd rather see the news no i mean i feel what you're saying but the big money match is definitely logan paul's cena oh definitely i can honestly see that happening at russelmania are you i think he i think logan paul last year was like i'd like to wrestle john cena at russelmania i think he said don't put that in the universe rutch please yeah i think that makes sense for it to be a big celebrity guy as well i would be surprised to see it no he's gonna didn't he say he's gonna have matches after russelmania russelmania has last match next year it's last russelmania but it's not okay i thought mania was his last match no it's not his last match he said he just said he's gonna do all of the yeah he's gonna do all the big pay-per-views next year including russelmania okay he said he's gonna do 30 appearances but i'm sure that won't be 30 matches maybe like half of that'll be matches not someone type an undertaker in the chat please undertaker oh no undertaker is that clip undertaker running out of mania he is not doing that listen i keep i i've tried to retire on you guys for longest i put my hat in the ring after roman beat me man yeah wouldn't let me retire like i'm retired leave me calling me stop calling here i'm not showing up to russelmania he's like when stanford calls i have it on ignores his do not answer when he answers and they're like we got a big old bag though you want it and he's like i said where's my hat russel get my hat traffic what else do you think for that for like just the final year any other opponents any storylines i mean the flare title few is the big one i think it's the biggest storyline you got they already did a roman match we don't need another roman we don't need another one that was said we've we've seen a bunch of stuff matches i mean of course we got the historically broke his his nose and everything but red heart thanks seth rallen's not a good worker match right hard resistance you know bring up right um right who of the new guys oh ray misterial still there i can see something like that they have that they have history even Dom too I think with that amount of heat that Dom oh Bron Bron Bron breaker Bron breaker yep I can definitely see them letting I think I'm gonna say they're gonna let him get a win over Cena for sure I would think yeah come through and breaker kill Cena like by granddad now I think he's gonna lose a lot of matches in this last year it's really putting a lot of guys over yeah but also historically Cena has gone over everybody let him beat everybody still just yeah I mean I think he's gonna lose I don't think he's gonna lose every match but I think he's gonna lose a good amount of matches he's gonna be golden shovel no you can't do that with him in his last year that would be so weird that would be horrible he just beats everybody becomes champion and retires champion sting oh sorry I said this quite a part out lava but I don't know but think it's different things a different guy he didn't have the amount of time on top the scene it did no yeah I think to me seeing was more popular but considering where he was and wouldn't go to the Fed I'll give you that I'll give you that right yeah yeah it's pretty crazy though um it's official he's gonna do to the end of the year Cena that I mean Randy Orton still is gonna say kind of that chapter is over but Randy or who knows how long this fool is gonna still be around this is yeah but while all of this was happening I was sitting back like this is why this company has been the biggest thing for 40 years just how they teed this up the rollout um having this guy ready to come in for WrestleMania after you had this big uh month long several month long thing was rocked this year going into Las Vegas with John Cena that's gonna make them a lot of money and they we thought they meant a lot of money this year Cena on the top of these a lot a lot of these shows out of here yeah um a crazy thing about but it feels like uh rock this year coming back for the build to WrestleMania it feels like that's gonna be like the blueprint for a lot of other guys to come back and have that kind of run so to Lee and I thought it was super interesting that Cena kind of put an emphasis on the Netflix deal too over like yeah they talked about gonna be on Netflix and I want to be a part of it so like yeah he is a movie star he is a lot of crossover there I forgot about that part so he did say that and I do think that that's a part of getting people to watch on Netflix that's a big part of the selling point of it not that Raw needs a selling point but right I think that's a part of selling point of the move to Netflix. Cena is gonna be there this is why that that places on top and you've got a bunch of people that it's their job to come up with these things because uh they did a really good job with this yeah they did surprising especially when like earlier in the day people were like oh Cena's here Cena's in in Toronto or like you know people try to get their little two cents in and act like kind of a spoiler and it still did just as hard and people not knowing that he was kind of retired like just kind of changed the whole thing it's going to be an interesting year for sure big scene big John Cena okay now we can get I'll read before we go move on Cena versus Max Castor in a rap battle who you put your money up I mean do I have to say the loud part out loud that technically I'm cutting my ears off into and the technicality of it that Max is a better rapper than yeah like if we technically get down to it Max is a better rapper I know some people are not going to like that I don't like how y'all phrase that yeah on a technical level technical stuff we're just getting down to it like he's but the biggest Cena is Cena and he's more popular than him so even if he comes in there says something that's trash people are still gonna say cena one you right literally looks like that's what it is nothing against cena but when people are like you see he's the best album of all time I'm like you guys don't listen to hip-hop bro somebody said that I might chat the other day and then I said I'm taking that back I actually played one of John Cena's songs I just remembered it fondly I'm like yeah that's what it is that's what I want to say every single time like you guys are remembering fondly but bump that shit right now you're throwing it out the window like set it off stop i got that if if Max is getting to his uh two golf men and they two grown men and they're going through a golf phase back yeah cena come on but you didn't like the one from this week though that was cool i didn't say i didn't like it it was cool oh that's what it is i think i'm the one who said it like that he'll run where they were doing the videos now them videos were much better man the one the one they did in jail for the the mox match bro come on i think it's just like kind of like what crested saying is like people are not really fond of max right now so it's not hitting as hard as you would think it is just because it's extra kind of extra curriculars are like i think that must be a shot though okay that's what it is that that must be a shot though oh oh bro bro bro bro i used to look at this all the time saying you look like russell wilson's little brother and it's must that's not help he does kind of look like young young russell wilson though cut that's it off cut it off but i can't see it now max dance is bizarro broson how russell wilson i've been saying that you feel the little wilson little brother y'all talking about corny people ah yeah oh being double corn with russell wilson's crazy listen russell wilson's only corny because he loves his family that's that's the best part about nobody christen man he really loves his wife i'm like what he's in that he's in that category with chance the chance they do nothing wrong but tell y'all he loved his wife man i will say max cast was probably because he's he's a corn on the cob he's a he's a fucker he's a fucker he's a fucker he can help it he already had beef with our podcast because oh there's not a person was on here so you're gonna he's gonna come out and have like a whole thing against us dm you purplehead business that was a there's a wild time when he did that like yeah we don't i don't have to go and get you know my family in the media to plug me up i was like what are you talking about man what are you saying that though there's a wild there's a wild thing to do there's not a guy who works over there man see what happens right now you got a now you got a will and do am i going to hear apology oh no all right yeah no apologies and the rest of tell like i put the no tap out you know who i didn't want to do this i didn't know i was going to have to do this sorry you guys apologize uh yeah okay that sucks finally get into these humper chats humper chats because uh we have a lot of um from from tony p uh he says social media has revealed an alarming amount of people are just dumb uh from the i'm hope to have niggas to the the tamaga to the fuckers that don't have reading comprehension fact that some people are saying m this dot with that first it's maddening anyone on to rest anyway on the wrestling um yeah no there's this uh first where he's wrapping from the perspective of a fan and people thought he was actually saying that uh dot didn't say anything on that song or he doesn't have any bangers that's not what he was saying guys after the Drake and Kendrick battle i don't want to hear people's opinions on hip-hop come on now come the fuck on now all these people that started listening to hip-hop for all the wrong reasons you're not trying to know what they're hearing like you're not trying to hear Sam Roberts give his opinion all right zero percent you're not trying to hear certain people jump in on a conversation no it's like i'm glad you have a lot i'm glad but no i don't want to hear actually that that wasn't me just trying to throw a shot at Sam Roberts but i did see like recently uh Sam Roberts clip pop up in my feed about Drake and Kendrick and i was like oh okay what if anybody in the fucking world was sitting in their room thinking about this battle i'm like i wonder what Sam Roberts thinks of this stop Rosa Berg was sitting somewhere like nah man nah mother it was probably sitting somewhere like nah i'm the bald guy that has done the debbie debbie also does the rap takes that's my lane i'm not really not it's my world Rosa Berg Rosa Berg teed off at fucking Sam Roberts cuz it's him with the guitar but for us though why i want to know how that got to your timeline and also why is Sam Roberts because i you know of course i've been looking at other content about Kendrick and Drake and so i've seen oh your algorithm was like maybe he'll like this one too he likes wrestling and he likes yeah hey man is that maybe Sam got it got his shit off but i when i saw that i was like oh okay cool uh more from uh Tony P says i mean that is the best people commenting on not like us that are not like us it's perfect you are like us like it's like you are like us the water is warm you wait a minute are you saying that Sam Roberts is not like us i didn't say that bro they're gonna think all of this is like us decision Roberts you know what i'm all in i love Sam Roberts honestly i don't even know some Roberts uh bro came after all that hey i love Sam the best way to to try to start actually i'm a good man listen i love Sam Roberts i love the loving learning dream i like the learning i think Sam Roberts is a scourge to rap space well Sam Roberts is in the back right now but you wanted to say anything why does Sam Roberts catch straight though out of anybody Sam Roberts is just like i'm listening just to clarify this if people don't understand what i'm saying though it's not that i have a problem with Sam Roberts talking about it it's just that this is where we are where we are with Kendrick and that rap beef where it's so big now that it's forced everybody to talk about it because that's the game now talking about hip hop and now he's talking about hip hop is that's where maybe he's a rap fan and i just didn't know that but just when i saw that in my timeline i was like oh yeah this is where we are it's it's somebody in our comments like actually he has a podcast dedicated to hip hop more than you guys that would be very funny that would be very funny that would be very funny wrestling uh from more from Tony piece is uh Mariah has her first petty to week when this week she didn't even wait to to break our hearts in a well executed surprise she started kicking Tony's ass with the quickness as soon as she could also Kendrick like layers uh Kendrick like layers to that beat down was crazy oh Kendrick like layers to the Mariah beat down ah I got you got you got you got you yeah um yeah yeah on on the conversation of Mariah uh we got the Owen Hart cup finals this week uh Mariah May one on the women's side not to be beautiful scene man amazing ending to dynamite i don't know what Tony thought bro i don't know what she thought yeah i mean not i thought the the finals win was pretty predictable most people predicted that Mariah would win um i had been saying that the turn was coming i thought the turn was incredibly well executed everything about it was great uh and you know everybody's talking about the turn itself and the ending but i thought Mariah and Willow had a really good match as well yeah totally uh shout out to Willow came out with the Owen uh gear as well that require uh and it likes that the match was great um i i think there was for some people at least hopes that maybe Willow would be a two-time winner um i don't think most people expected no i'm not expected i think uh yeah i've become such a you know beyond the character work and everything that Mariah has done i've become such a big fan of her in-ring work she's like legit one of the best women on the roster like she just she fights like a her character and her in-ring work feels so different because she's so gritty in there she like forces everybody to get into her match she's like trying to fight for real and then her character out of that she just like nice and cute and beautiful it's like damn when she really turns it up that's what made the beat down i think even more of Tony of like she's just like you thought that she was Tony's friend this whole time she's been hugging her the bosom stuff all this stuff it's like wow man like i didn't know that you had this monster inside of you Mariah she's doing what Liv thinks she's doing that's what i will say and i will also say i'm not mad at the immediate heel turn i thought that was perfection i'm not gonna hold you she's i'm not waiting why would i wait i'm not i'm sick of you i'm sick of you and why would you not think first of all is she one what do you think she's gonna do Tony like who's like who's she gonna wrestle yeah she's not getting her ass beaten black and white i thought was very significant i felt Mariah be her ass back to the right decade so we might see normal Tony store that's pretty no i didn't think about that yeah somebody on twitter said uh a character that's been in black and white all this time somebody gave her color just layers the k-dot layers are coming i mean and of course the other part of it is that her catchphrase has been watch out for the shoe and she self-proversized her own demise here um wow that's insane like who would have known this whole time that line was to get to this you know what i mean like it probably didn't start opposite but the way that it like kind of full circle moment of like when Mariah first started Tony would stop her from saying it or like she wouldn't let her say it with her and we got to like Tony was telling her to say her saying and then that was the downfall of it like that's some great storytelling really great story to i thought they did a great job all around Mariah signed in november and i believed that summer going into the five-star grandpea she was saying i'm gonna win this like Tony Storm and she was already setting up like Tony Storm is my idol and so by the time she went over there people are already waiting to see them interact right and just that idea of an interaction turned into a whole eight-month-long storyline um and you could see all of the makings of this heel turn for a while all of the character stuff they had been doing uh um Tony would say something you can see it a background uh Mariah was making kind of a face like go all the way back to Tony winning the title and giving her acceptance speech and like Tony's reaction in the background priceless all of this stuff that like even when she first went in there to meet her and she was like could you look at my matches and she was like uh whatever everybody's arrested everybody's got everybody's got a story and she just kind of dismissed her and even look at Mariah's face at the end of that segment look at the segment back where still you're smitten i'm really thinking you're right no you're right no there's a segment where Mariah is uh talking about setting up a match with Thunder Rosa to possibly become the number one contender and uh Tony goes wait a minute was this your plan all along and Mariah starts looking confused because it was her plan all along and so but she didn't catch any of that that was the segment where she kissed her and goes she was like you genius i see myself in you and i love me um and that was how she got her she appealed to her ego and once she started appealed to her ego start cosplaying her like her she missed all of the signs Luther didn't Luther was watching the whole time like you can't trust this chick like she was he was annoyed the whole time and then second when i was talking about where you could see where it looked like Tony was catching on to her Luther was like yeah yeah get out of here and then when he then when she kissed he was like oh this bitch like i cannot get rid of her and so that's why all of this stuff hits differently like when when Luther runs up and tries to stop her it's like yeah they've been building to this because this whole time Luther has never liked her um even all like the way that they did the camera angle of her throwing Luther off at a stage and you could see uh Tony in the background reaching for Luther mm-hmm really really well done man mm-hmm i will say even if you think at the um what you call it the media scrums where Tony would make Mariah just stand there while Tony would sit down mm-hmm yeah i mean and and from Mariah's point of view she has all the reason to feel this way towards Tony because it's like no you never took me seriously you treated me like a kid the only time that you you positioned me at the top is when i started dressing like you and as an homage to you you never took me seriously mm-hmm and then all the story of that all changed of Tony did start taking her serious like you said that when she did the Thunder Rosa thing she was like has this been your whole plan or like come watch my match or something Tony would always say no and then uh it got to the point where Tony's accompanying her to the ring for her matches now she's her second in her corner she's at every match she's involved in pretty much everything Mariah has a very big difference from when Mariah first came in yeah i mean a big part of it as well is that she started really bringing her in and letting her ingratiate herself when she started helping her win the matches like you didn't take me seriously until i was a prop to you so i started helping you yeah and i mean even the meanest storyline uh i don't know how people didn't catch it at the end of the match with Mina you could very much see at the end of it that Mariah was basically like yeah i've been like playing both of you guys and making you guys do stuff for my entertainment this entire time like mm-hmm no money y'all british care about me that's how that's how she feels like i'm out here yeah exactly like i had to do this to i had a plan off rip to get this championship and it's pretty much working to perfection now and we're going full steam ahead yeah i like that that i thought that they were going to stretch it out a little bit after Mariah had won i'm like next week they'll probably do a promo then they'll do a little bit more teasing no Mariah's like right now i won this match i got the match against you it's over yeah it's it's up now it's something i mean the other layer to the meaner thing is you could argue that all right well yeah i'm trying to create dissension between uh Mina and you and get you to fight Mina hey maybe if Mina beats you maybe she'll give me the title shot next because that's my friend that's my mentor it's like you were teeing up all of these things to be an obstacle against Tony right because Tony wasn't giving that up so maybe if Mina has it i can get it over there yeah it was great story telling i think beyond that Mariah has now been fucking extended to the moon off of this like everybody loves her turn i think that the grittiness that she's shown in that has propelled her into being one of the hottest hills on the company now kind of crazy yeah i hate i hate to make this analogy because people will think that i am now comparing her to Austin but Austin winning the king of the ring tournament and having like the most famous moment of his career cutting the promo and giving the line that became his catchphrase for the rest of his career uh just feels like that kind of star making moment for her in the sense that this tournament was built as like a vehicle to do this and it's done that for her yeah um in that vein i think it's the most successful o and heart cup by far for both the men and the women totally and i don't even if we haven't even got to like what the prize of the matches is yet like oh the thing is Mariah could potentially win the championship but she's already been excelled just off of the angle of what getting to it it's like the Owen has represented something for the last couple years and this year it just changed with the inclusion of Brian's story and now this Tony and Mariah's stuff it's like it changed it into a completely different meeting for the tournament yeah yeah i think that was a really smart idea to make the winner the main inventor for Wembley i think it adds stakes to this tournament i think it means more um i think that like straight away her going into the UK into her home country with a title shot against Tony um big deal man by far this is the best story AEW's women's division had ever produced by far yeah yeah totally yeah they did and then i mean we had we talked about how great Mariah is like how great half's Tony been in all this like yeah the receiving the beatdown that she got there and the role that she played like he said reaching for Luther the blood her crying not fighting back because she's just so disapproving of what happened yeah it's just like damn Tony fucking destroyed this shit too but also how how much cognitive dissonance do you have to have as a character to be like this girl who i disrespected for months who started cosplaying as me started replacing me is not turning on me serious come on now just just just just in just in kayfabe says says well i will say from Tony's point of view i get it for the character for the character of Tony Storm she started doing this whole thing because he was disillusioned with the outcast thing and she was disillusioned with what her place is with the company and so for her to get this title run and it kind of turned into her definitive run with the company definitive run is champion and then it's like oh well you're just a hanger on it's like so i'm gonna use well but look at it from her point of view it's like you're you're a hanger on and i'm treating you like a hanger on and so then when i actually started liking you and i actually cared about you getting better and like wanting to be a mentor to you because i saw somebody else doing it and i got jealous it's like no i actually care about making you better and being a part of your journey and she thought no i'm doing the right thing because at that point she was turning face and so no no i'm helping you i'm giving you the match and we're going to we're gonna get the Wembley match together now but you'll be there but you'll be there but you're gonna be but see i don't even think she looked at it like oh well if i lose i lose but i think it's just like no we've got this far together like so for us to be a part of this big thing now and take that all the way to Wembley it was supposed to be like this triumphant moment for their friendship mm-hmm like we're supposed to hug at Wembley not you know what i mean at the end of our Wembley match not try to kill each other i was wondering how they're gonna do that turn so i think it was good to smart booking to do it now so you don't have to worry about how is she gonna uh yep smart smart because i thought maybe i was like they could i had convinced myself for a moment that they weren't gonna turn on each other i'm like man maybe the friendship has gone so well maybe they're just gonna have a spirited contest at Wembley but then like no when i see Mariah do this i'm like oh yeah no of course not yeah the story doesn't and it's so hard the story doesn't work without the turn it it had to happen i say they learned their lesson with um mjs and adam colt don't drag it to fucking law don't drag it yeah exactly yeah it feels like this has always been the point of putting them together so and i mean they have stressed it out long enough that they got fans to actually like them together exactly facts that when the turn actually came people didn't want it to happen because people actually like them together people are invested in them um man what a great storyline what a what a great way to mint Mariah what a great way to uh build tonya into a great character and then pay off everything she's done as champion i think it's fair to say she's been the best a w women's champion so far just for a singular run yeah um this has been a really really good run in terms of character story stuff and the matches are started they're going into Wembley with the match that could potentially be the main event if given the opportunity like just that in itself on how long we've been talking about women in AW and their positioning and getting stories just the fact that they have one of the hottest stories in the entire company and they could be the main event is great i think it can be matches a night too it one thousand percent one thousand percent i it could be they're i think they're going to be given time and the motion attached it might be the best match that that the shot means swerving brian danson or wrestling i'm i say swerving danny said there's a lot there's a lot of good wrestling on that card it's going to be a good card top to bottom i'm thinking about last year's all and i'm like damn this year's all in is going to be way different yeah i mean you got you already got two really huge matches coming out of the tournament uh you possibly have brit Mercedes um got a lot of really big matches you got our power yeah you potentially got ricochet showing up before um all i don't know if i believe that it will main event but in terms of like the story this is like one of the best stories a that you have going so far yep but of course the other storyline we have going uh people for whatever reason thought hangman was winning this match going into the finals like we talked about earlier we had going into this well hangman's not a villain guys and i'm like god it's he's very clearly a villain um you drink again yeah brian brian's last shot has also been a really really well told story um it's another one where i feel like from the second he signed there you've been building up to this moment of him coming in the company of going yeah i'm coming in to face all these young guys whatever i'm gonna kick all the heads in i'm better than them i'm the goat and he's gotten humbled at every every step of the way he's gotten beaten by or everybody i mean when he took that last Eddie Kingston he had to like suck it up and shake his hand it's like all right this guy is every time he gets like braggadocious and he's like i'm just gonna kick this guy's ass i'm gonna be disrespectful as possible then he just ends up losing to him it's happened several times now of the like you don't even deserve to be in the ring with me and then that guy smashes him and then he's like oh shit yeah him being humbled by Eddie Kingston was really good and i'm thinking about his matches with dangarcia too of like dangarcia got a couple victories over him because he was just too cocky and just too like i'm brian dancing you don't deserve this shit yeah he's been doing this since 2021 uh hey man i'm better than you gets to match with kenny omega doesn't get the win over him time limit draw uh same thing with the hangman feud uh i'm gonna take the title i'm the bigger star than him i'm better than him i'm gonna do push-ups in the ring i'm gonna do uh exercises because i'm better than this guy and then ends up losing to him same thing with max you you talked up beating max you end up losing a max at revolution the ocata match um even talking up i'm the best technical wrestler in the world and he lost his axe saber junior in japan uh and that's all leading up to the i spray match where he's like all right well i'm the best in the world you say you're the best in the world you're in that spot that i was in in 2021 of coming in and wanting to prove you're the best and getting up against me but straight away in that match you see this guy is stronger and faster than me he's young it doesn't matter like what i have over him and technical ability this guy's just like he's just on a different level he's hungry yeah he's just on a different level and so when he beat him it was humanizing in in a lot of ways so really for the first time in this time with a w he looks like an underdog because we've seen him lose so many times that's like oh well he's saying it's his last shot we've seen him get the title match before and he loses so it's like ah well he can't win he we've you're you've already seen it in i spray match you can't win you're you're up against us these guys are younger they're better than you and now you're going to get to this tournament with this guy that is like i want revenge and he's like turning red and screaming all in the camera it's like i don't know if you're going to beat this guy what you want to do isn't necessarily what you're going to do and this guy is already beating you this guy is beating you in one of the best AW world championship matches of all time so going into this tournament a lot of the day one AW fans are like oh Brian you're gonna lose this match turns out man this guy is still the guy ends up beating hangman in the finals of the own heart cup incredible match too very very good match really good story bringing the Jeff Jarrett stuff back around from the first round was very smart um i really like how this handled and Brian is heading the wumbly for his last chance to be AW world champion against a guy that has shown you at every turn away i will do everything to win and stay in the spot um really great story i think i think Brian is gonna win but just this story they've built up of him wanting to prove himself and test himself against this class of wrestlers and he keeps losing until he gets this big moment at wumbly i'm here for it i've seen the vision from the beginning i'm here for it yeah that's probably my best part of what you said there of like him being humbled by osprey and then being like well damn maybe i am what all these guys are saying like maybe i am past my prime maybe i am not the Brian dangerson that i think god i am and i now have to prove to forget proving to y'all i have to prove to myself that i can become a w world champion and i prove to myself that i am everything that i say that i am shout them in him and so i think that uh getting to getting to this point of that and that desperation Brian is the really the lead story going into wumbly of like well can he do it because he keeps telling us like Phil say he keeps telling us that he's the best in all this but he hasn't really proved it like if we're talking about wins and losses like all of his big matches he's lost it we need we need that moment that big win and that visual of holding the belt at the end with the wumbly crowd and all that like Brian's gonna be done here and this just makes the most sense like a bunch of people are like well the story i wanted to see baby face versus heel the story with hangman makes more sense with swerve and i'm like yeah i agree with all that but like Brian do this Brian now so what do you mean yeah i mean that i said on ass grabsity but i've been a big uh critic of them having a belt for the own heart cup like why does it need a belt just just use the trophy but as soon as i saw uh Brian take the other belt i was like oh i see the vision he's gonna hold both belts up and do it the same way that he did at Wrestlemania but yeah i i get why people want to hang man to win it does in some way suck for hangman that this is twice now where this guy has been bubbling up and he's gonna snap and he's getting high and then some like xww guy comes in and like haunts his momentum it's happened twice now and so i get why people are frustrated if you're a day one a w person i get it but i think the entire home grown star is the go and instead you're they're losing to fucking five time ww champions and she probably looks crazy yeah i thought that way about Ricky starts i was so upset like what are we doing what are we doing yeah i get that part about it but the whole the whole basis around hangman stuff right now even though he's saying stuff that that's true like when he cut the promo and he's like well wait a minute why do you guys like this guy he he he broke into my house i had to move out of my house listen i gave you guys everything and you guys picked that guy he's right about that but at the same time he's a bad guy like all of this stuff he's saying he's a heel um and i i understand that he appealed to uh people's beliefs in him early on his career because we all still believe in hangman but yeah he's the bad guy he was supposed to lose like you're not supposed to you're not supposed to throw a tantrum like that and then when exactly and if he didn't get that part i'm sorry go ahead no you got it i would say also too i think it's important for just hangman's character every time hangman's on the bottle hangman doing some fuck shit like let's raise i'm ready to fight straight up not on the bottle that's when he's a good guy as we can make clear decisions i get where the the anger comes from but hangman's on the bottle right and he's about to be on your lead and he's not gonna get right until can you make it like you knock it off knock it off knock it off yeah i do feel like we're leading back to another kenny omega hangman match as well yeah this time with kenny as the babyface um yeah but yeah i i i would have liked it to get swerve hangman as well but i think the story of hangman doing all of this and losing makes sense as well i mean that's his come up and you came back and you had this big heartful story for jeff jared and boy look how fast things change look last week man i can't believe hangman beat jared this week i can't believe hangman lost like wait a minute like you wanted to lose jerry that's wanted him to lose one week ago seven days ago you wanted this man to lose now you want now you're mad that he lost i'm going to put you flip flop they lift one foot up it goes flip they put the foot down and go front yeah so yeah i did to come in and have this big heartfelt story with jared i'm trying to honor my friend and i want to win the o and heart cup because i want to honor my friend and then this guy just goes now i'm about to beat you for revenge and then afterwards i'm going to beat you down and embarrass you and then the next time i see you i'm going to spit at you because you're pathetic to me no that's come up it's you're supposed to lose you're not supposed to root for that guy to win exactly yeah he spit at jeff jared walking out there you know in the end of jeff jared match last week he beat him up like he beat him down like you're not supposed to be like yeah we want this guy to win no do you see the bad guy he's supposed to lose um i mean technically we already have a bad guy main champion because swerve cut a promo on this man's baby well and this is the thing that i think people have also missed because people are like well it should be a big heel baby face matching that match well what is swerve been telling you throughout this entire run his entire time as champion has been consequences from him being a be a heel coming back to bite him and now more and more even in the in the i spray fuse he's been just like listen man my friends we're cool and all but this is personal to me and if you get in my way you try and take this belt i might have to be that old guy again and i feel like he's gonna do that with brian like look man get your old ass out of here bro this is my belt you're not gonna beat me i'm at the height of my career you're on a retirement tour bro you're at the end i'm in my prime yeah thank you he uses enzo amore a lot about his neck being a stack of dimes he's a man this guy out of here man like this is my time like this is this is the dynasty era like you're you're old news old hotness i mean old old and busted new hotness that's what i got for what time it is bro like and so i i think that i think the story here makes perfect sense also brian got the win over swerve in the continental classic will start with that continental classic or is that before that i know it wasn't the continental classic no was it over swerve it was the number one contender it was some kind of match some kind of important i don't think it was in the continental classic i don't think it was i don't think it was the continental classic though no you're right because he lost the mocks in the continental classic swerve mocks uh but yeah he lost a brian last year as well and he said in several interviews since then that he's never never gotten over that loss mm-hmm no the bill to this match work match works and people are like oh well what is the bill hey well they have five weeks to build the match the paper view isn't till the end of August oh don't just give brian a thing because he's retiring no get brian a thing because he's retiring what are you doing this right now i'm okay i'm okay yeah like life edema is right it's the tnt number one contenders match that's what yeah it's going to say there was some kind of uh stakes on it stipulation but yeah again this is how fast things turn um at one point people wanted brian to beat hankman for the aw world championship yep i remember coming again and recording this podcast and reg was like thaw hangman's got loose and i was sitting here like no very adamant about it mm-hmm so this is how fast things have gone and this is how successful hangman's time with the company has been hangman will be back he'll be fine i don't think that's what i'm saying like if you think this one thing is gonna ruin hangman he has like five more years to get over this isn't like hangman it's like some guy that never got his moment he got his moment he beat kenny o mecca for the aw world championship and we'll be back swerve and hangman this thing is forever you know what i mean like we're gonna be reliving this for a few and three years we're gonna be like they're doing this again like this isn't like this isn't it no he he's gonna be back he's probably gonna have a big magic wimpley as well um i don't know what it'll be but he'll be fine like i don't i don't know why people are like he'll never this is this is your chance to mentum you did mentum you did it at the pay-per-view named after his gimmick it's good i know i mean they're doing a little bit of teasing too it seems uh when he tried to go talk to the elite this week on dynamite and okada was like hey what you doing here okada was like hey what you want and the bus are like yo yo he's still because the bus like oh he back on the bottle he about to do some bullshit and what he's like i'm in i'm like i already know for blood and guts because you're mad because mad yeah so yeah so it seems like he's probably going to join their team for blood and guts just because uh swerve came out this week and said he's leading team aw um but i don't think that that's a long-term thing i i'm not sure that kenny will be ready for all in and if he's not hangman versus okada is right there that's true that's a good backup or even if um hangman not hangman even if um kenny doesn't wrestle having him come out interfere or just even hear his music i hear my battle i would pop i would pop yeah i like that even if he just is in somebody corner or something yeah just to make sure that you eevee peas have been running a muck let me at least come out to make sure you guys aren't doing the most i don't know if he takes a bump but if you heard kenny omegas even if you had justin robins do kenny omegas he's won the twirl d1 18 times your mother's a cock he likes right chicken from north carol i would i would say i would still pop i would still pop your mother's a cock is crazy all right yeah listen as much as i really really really want kenny omegas first so kada uh a part of me does kind of think all right well i'm not going to win believe hangman match over there do the different ones kenny ocada in america when i either go right up yeah yeah i'm i'm going to be at do it there i'm going to be home in my bed i don't know about that but bring a full gear back to la and do it then i'll that'll be cool i'm like that's a man ontario canada come on now this is uh register like i want to go not canada yeah i but yeah i think both oh and heart cup tournaments this year were incredible the finals for both were really really good the story of both winners is fantastic um easily the best this year of of the way they've executed yeah really really great momentum for both of the winners yeah i'm sure there's somebody like bro you don't need the momentum hmm we kind of don't believe he loses he's lost several times and he's put several people over like give him the win like i'm gonna retire him with about like it did stay and he's it's daniel's fine it's brian he's one of the greatest of all time uh now uh am i also kind of bias and what i also like to see swerve beat him absolutely yeah would not be mad at all at the endings video ending package or ending scene being swerve holding that buildup after just being brian because it's also a big moment in brian just lost another match and he's standing in the ring dejected defeated and people are still crying and same kind of excitement so oh you never know and it's brian danson he's a sicko he would like to get us to where we think we're gonna get something and then take it right from i could risk yeah i could see it going either way and i wouldn't be mad either i'll come isn't danielson and swerve both from washington because if that's the case i could see swerve beating danielson here them doing a show in washington danielson beatings were for the title there then in retiring swerve said yo what the was that about bro so you let him win just so you could put on a tournament that's come on now we wrestle dream is after that in uh washington i i would not when is that's in october uh is it october sept yeah it is october yeah it's october yeah it's got to be october because it's all all out is in september all i was beginning to set that would make sense that swerve have his big wendly moment like you said danielson's like i'm tired of losing and then when y'all go to the hometown who y'all y'all everyone's cheering the cold crowd is going to be hot and if danielson won in front of his hometown just to retire it you've got a great story line for swerve right afterwards and it i mean it could go either way i just think right now for me i think division is brian when it gets wendly and i want it to be swerve so bad and i i know people are gonna oh well what is this run man like it's does that make him a transitional champion buddy do i want wrestling fans to forget the term transitional champion i really really want you guys to forget it because you guys are misusing a lot of terms inside terms just stop it man like this even if he loses at at wendly what do you mean what is this done for him it's put him in the upper echelon of the best workers in the company he's beat will osprey he's gonna wrestle kazochka okada next week yeah come on now what do you know understand that word they don't know what transitional means they uh listen even if he loses he's gonna main event the company's biggest show of the year no other black wrestler has done that no other wrestler black wrestler has done that no other wrestler in this company is mentioned in a category that this guy has mentioned in that's what that title run is done for him it's put him in a completely different echelon of wrestlers man i don't know why people keep keep doing this to swerve and i agree when i think of transitional champion i think of Rey Mysterio winning lose and then losing in an hour that's a transitional champion they don't understand what it yeah you hold the title for six months and shit that's not a trend that's not how transitions work brother i just think that sometimes people expect champions to not be heels you expect them to be baby faces and when they're heels they have to be so far out there to use JBL again as a reference you have to be so far out there that someone who is a heel like swerve but a good tweener heel in my opinion like he's not as bad as some of the people but i will cut a promo on your baby don't mess with me totally i don't understand to me he's a well-rounded character why do we have a problem with him not being super heel or super face for you guys but well at least two nights now stop it yeah i just i think people get too upset about someone potentially losing everybody eventually has to lose man that's the game not live longer though that was the thing uh that was the thing off of the money in the bank thing well well none of the they can't cash in the briefcase so why would they do it and that's like whoa it's not the point somebody listen that's how this thing works somebody got to lose man yeah it's it's fine and i don't think this loss to a legend and brian dangelson is gonna kill swerve come on now losing i losing to brand daniel sin it's not a no no in this huge moment on like black men don't headline shows in general and overseas in Wembley something totally that would be out of the question in the other place so listen hopperchats hahahahahaha hopperchats uh tony p continues he said however i am glad she did it early not i'm assuming he still talked about the right thing yeah he says however i'm glad she did it early and not we didn't get slow tragedy we knew that was painfully coming like with sammy uh which we still ourselves for but this is uh no one was prepared sorry this one no one was prepared prepared for um yeah i think it was a smart idea to do it trade away they didn't have to drag it out i mean we've had an eight month bill to this one yeah it's um builds i think that uh she's gonna be a bigger star it's kind of i'm interested in seeing what kind of happens on the back end like what happens when she gets away from tony like her whole career in a w has been attached to this person what happens when you're not attached to this person yeah mom they gotta do her whole presentation and they've got a lot of stuff to build off of from her start right because i haven't even think of her she's been doing tony storm cosplays like she hasn't even had her own gear on yeah her own gear uh i mean she's had her own theme music when she came in but for as long as she's been doing tony's old theme music so yeah what's she gonna do she gonna go back to mariah mathy music of course then she'll come out and tony's music still for the music and tony will come out in the same song and he's still trolling her coming out to her music though might be kind of hot a couple times at least not forever i would laugh i would laugh i would laugh she did it at one believe yeah i i do think uh some of this is all leading to um tony coming out dressed as a original tony with her own music oh yeah oh yeah that'd be hot though i'd be with it good i like that fill you cooking mmm see uh more from tony p said also this further proves that um nay is a game changer she said her goal was to make uh step look good and she made her look so good the ww finally said yes uh i know bursetties went at naddy uh but we knew with a high chance she was staying with ww yeah i didn't think that he was going nowhere yeah no that's a life we talk about life or is that's a life or i did think it would have been cool to see her in the on heart cup but um elanne even if it just let her do it i mean we got a cameo in tna from aj styles like you don't y'all could have let what are y'all doing with naddy though like be for real cuz she couldn't wrestle in his tournament it's funny that everybody thought that she would be there next week from her sates but like wouldn't it have made more sense to debut her in canada in calgary if you're gonna do an open challenge in calgary it would have made sense for naddy to do it there yeah that's that's yeah no hold it off till little rock arkansas yeah and naddy's not on contract at the moment correct she just she's not on contract is yeah she's back now no but i mean before that she wasn't on contract like because she's been off tv yeah but she's not like y'all couldn't just make that happen just bring her in as a one-off for that for like the open challenge in calgary and then she'd gone back and signed like i think that would have been i don't think she would do that yeah but that would have been i think that would have been smart yeah they're gonna see me on your show not probably not disgusting yeah i did not like that she not conniving me yeah that's conniving that's conniving you don't want to one off an a w that's conniving i just want to get my big bag of money why you mad at me more from tony p says overall wrestling was good again this week uh capping off with japanese wrestling with two fire matches i am going to see later crazy enough gato taking jake jake lead to new japan pro wrestling next win today is what i'm looking forward to the most do next week uh what's there's so much less 250 episode yeah yeah um dynamite 250 yeah uh i'm making more hopper chats than we have here because we really did not create any of them and we've been a lot y'all been live because i kind of mean late y'all been live almost four hours you still ain't reading them on the chats so we got a bunch of super chats too yo you're not talking about nothing else but hopper than super chats at this point that's it okay that's that that's all uh okay more from tony p says uh also let me say i am not a scene of fan uh things he did disturbed me and his ww used our culture to package him into one of the biggest stars what they did with him was one of the main reasons i gave up wrestling until i found lucha on the ground new japan and ring of honor now i that was another big part of reason i was not a big scene of fan like i very much resented the idea of a white guy doing a rapper gimmick becoming the biggest biggest biggest star in wrestling and i knew for a fact that there was no way a black wrestler could do the same thing and climb to the heaps he did yo yo yo it's crime time uh huh yeah i i hated that sadoku yeah it was always a big joke when a black wrestler did it but it was seriously a man in george with a bicycle chain on his neck with a word life saying things that like well nobody says that word life uh and then he did that interview where he was like yeah i just i don't know where i got the idea for him i just where the silliest stuff i could think of i was like yeah where did you get that idea from john it knocked it off tell the truth and the devil and i am like the silliest stuff of like this this this isn't a costume for regular people that's jump time i'm kidding yeah you know what fuck johnson i can see you now fuck you johnson he's saying all that i respect this man for what he has done for wrestling uh the hard work he has put in and respect him it's sorry respect his later years more than his early ones congrats to john yeah that's very much what i feel about it i've grown to appreciate johnson a lot more uh later on in his career yeah when he became pw gc now i was like i see you you're having a five five star match of kevin no one's i see what's going on here that that change up that happened from him being rapper seen it to patriotic all-american i'm here for the soldier cena i was like yeah that's what i fell off i like this rap shit but now you're talking about us some of it lonstead all right i gotta go ladies johnson we got them oh but i mean the other part of that is well like i wasn't a big fan of that but there is a huge sect of america that that was their fandom for cena oh yeah um like even my like the the tribute to the truth stuff and like how he was a big fixture at those shows yeah i get it but was not a big fan of it not for me it's all american boy uh appreciate you tony p is always uh see we got a few from i make beats he says uh been watching in it 60 for the last year or so uh good to see them get their props after another solid ple uh even after losing brian illia diejack mellow etc uh javon rock sand and over femmy are my favorites on the current roster chalcy green with money in the bank mvp hashtag credit boys credit boys that's a new one that's funny that's so funny i did that i just want to make sure i get the proper credit um you know he's he's absolutely right um i think javon has got a high ceiling um that of course i did not even think about that's probably a double entendre because he's bouncy he's got a high ceiling he's got he got them ups such a dumb joke fan let's see uh i more from i make beats he says hangman versus danesan with the match of the week or over versus wesley if anyone saw the g1 qualifiers they had some great matches as well especially ishi versus uh yoshi hashi and calim newman versus kentah i want oleg bolton to win uh he's the man in my opinion right field turn greater than mjf field turn piece i don't think that's like i take yeah that's not really i take i don't think so i i think the mjf thing they learned from their mistakes with dragging it out with this friendship heel turn too long i think they will learn to listen a learning tree if you will yeah i thought the mjf heel turn was good but um man it's continued to see that this guy will i spray is very very good at being a television wrestler uh coming out and cutting that promo sitting on the turn buckle fire gave that guy some bar students like hey man that uh that bidding war of 2024 didn't really work out for you maybe because they signed me somebody that actually cares about elevating this company and not bearing it i was like wow whoosh yeah when all spray said that i was like yo i think i might have to come outside and fight this man for real yeah man i got i got to fight you i didn't you got some real words man yeah it was real words definitely gave him some grown man boys last number chat from i make bz says shout out to kresta best collision reviews uh watch sunday mornings uh then fight for right afterwards uh watch those liquid watch those liquids around electronics i moved my cup of tea so it wouldn't happen to me p s a learning tree dead ass kill samoa and joe with that that forklift thanks guys yeah i was not the big friend of it man you like the learning tree kresta so i'm going to tell you the only part i like about it hi guys i hate it so much i mean honestly they did kill samoa and joe also shout out so watch the collision thing i really appreciate you um but yeah i uh the learning tree listen if i will give this to jereco and i will give this to i think it was one other person who leans into i know you guys will fucking like me but guess what i'm still here i'm still here and they're going to pay me so guess what hi guys learning tree baby i respected if you don't like me oh well i'm i'm still here i'm still here they're going to pay me so i'll close your eyes hi guys nobody's going to close their eyes either how can i hate if i close my eyes um how could i hate if i close my eyes it's crazy i'm a wrestling fan i don't like this i'm gonna hate watch it and then hate you can not watch it patty gawk no i can't i have to you know i hate about the start coming out with the christian old thing don't close your eyes don't give him my deal god he's made he already booked it see you at the jereco crew is still up i'll see you then don't close your eyes follow it up way what if i be called disconnect the mics pull it out that's all that's uh the humpers that's all of our humper jet all right uh bianca lais says uh if reg were wants short fire wrestling anime tiger mask w featuring the new japan roster versus the evil western wwe type promotion and if you like comedy kono suba yeah no i see clips from that uh tiger map tiger mask w anime all the time i've seen a couple of uh they have like a show of channel on like to be or pluto one of those wrestling channels not that shows it shows that randomly it's pretty good uh that twin blade says reg you like old 80s and 90s ultra-violence watch black lagoon no total anime bs only 29 fs over three seasons groups is led by black man who's appearance is based on ving rames i don't trust your fan to do black i want a lot of adivates and to quote that mean be the black person depend thinks you are and i does that character choke out of tyree's type character that's all right yeah shut up does he choke out jenny uh hey what's over there is give me billy and a theta versus serrhea and camera and at all and i'll take it and if a w seriously by rebilling their tag division go sign grizzled young vets west coast wrecking crew and chris bay and a sausage i think grizzled young vets are as close closer than any of those other teams i know they've been in talks i don't know what yeah i think grizzled young vets is happening but we'll see um seems like chris bay has been telling you all like hey i want to go and wrestle over there and then see what those other guys look look what those guys are doing i want to do that i think chris bay this just me speculating i don't know this man from he can't paint but i do follow a lot of rest of social media he's kind of anything you want to do a solo thing for a minute yeah but also he's been like look we're the best tag team in the world hey man y'all got tag team wrestling over there huh yeah i kind of want to do that they've beat everyone in tna quite literally like we should be over there doing that uh then tynrausa says need to see artists at a w all-in stormsy people like that chakkhana performed for swerve at limby who do you want to see perform at all in i want to hear chakkhana but i don't want to see yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah her uh her tiny desk was really good oh yeah but not at the wrestling show she's not gonna be she's not coming from the show she wasn't a fan of kanye using her music she's not like i love chakkhana but she's not about to pull up at all in carty b who do i want to see perform at all then um any british rappers brof yeah get some some uh some british uh true rap not dance mass down mass now what happened to lady lesion oh that's a girl who did the queen's rap that's a long time i was like 10 years ago i think i'm so i'm out i'm so i'm lost i'm lost i don't know that uh me i'll perform at all and give me the mic period you already got a song uh hey what's over there says maybe brombreaker and uncle howdy i think he's talking with a new japan crossover when we're talking about it i think he's talking about the john cena thing um and actually i didn't even think about the uncle howdy thing that does make sense because bray had all of the stuff with cena at one point so it does make some trimming all right without you that makes sense yeah um uh tinderissa says uh cena with the two eye animal conic things they corny but great need bumpy knuckles and the trademark to do a retirement album with him need a new aggression album i don't remember remember when he did that big uh babe roof entrance at Wrestlemania and he came out with his old uh economics uh interview i mean he died interview but uh music i was sitting there like okay word life you don't want to feel it but you know you can't film um uh shawn martin says i'm going to pretend that you were aware of casters dad's passing way in february and this hating on max is with that knowledge i'm going to pretend that you knew max moustache is the same as his dad's when he was in the nb in at the max caster thanks for responding to that we weren't hating on your dad i don't know how you got that out of anything i'm going to go ahead and say we were talking about what it does dad have to do it anything or talking about wrestling characters on a wrestling show i think it's important to not get confused with the character and the person i think that is very important i think i won't talk about them but it's damn talking about the kind that's um so of yeah of course i made jokes about the moustache i did you i did not know that part about his he was doing it for his dad as a tribute to his dad but if he is that's great i did not know that part uh i will go ahead and say whenever i talk about a wrestler and i think i make it very clear that i'm talking about the character not the human that's that i'm not talking about any real people shawn martin also says people given in different ways and three even different ways and max is struggling yeah understand i'm not talking about any of that we're not talking about his grieving wrapping max cash or the dad that wraps is part of the acclaim that's all i'm talking about didn't i also like give max credit of being a better rapper than the other dude and i don't i us us getting jokes off is us getting jokes off again i i'm not talking about it that it's not leaving none of that yeah none of this is personal with me i just i was getting jokes off i i legitimately did not know that part about about the moustache and if that's why he's doing it that's great um and like if we knew we wouldn't do uh shawn thanks for submitting your super chat we appreciate you thank you so much thank you for educating us we truly appreciate you Vasco says i love the layers to this tony mariah story let's fucking go period like an onion fucking track oh god uh laron for says given the mariah turn on tony will this be featured the feature match at all in and put in a premium spot on the card maybe a co-man event yeah i think it's going to be pretty high up there yeah i don't see it opening the show i think there's a good match to open the show maybe the uh i can honestly see maybe your boy all spray open the show i was gonna say i'm like but you want to put all spray first yeah he not in a time match i mean yeah it that's really great that you have two big women's matches going into the paper view yeah our do it says happy grubster day y'all i recognize i'm being a pandantic pedantic pedantic as fuck but on the aew versus ww women on ask grabs you can't count becky she's not there oh yeah she's a ww superstar though but i feel it's a somatic somatic she's just saying she's looking at the contract like man right the contract is right there though like it's there uh latina or is it there says trick williams was a transitional champion ray was transitional y'all think it really aimed this energy at promotion that's tricky yeah i mean if we're talking transitional i'd say trick was if we're like i mean isn't it a bit ironic it's a bit ironic that people thought that the new guy that sign was going to come in and be swerve straight away in the new guy came in and went straight to beating trick williams it's a bit ironic uh isn't it ironic don't you think could i run it hey what's over there says i plan on going to see swerve versus amazing regga hog are you going to that crystal oh i always go to every hog show you can see my turn i'm yelling yo bro bro bro bro bro bro bro hog is so good hog is that i'm tied up to house of glory the homies you guys think hangman shows up and crashing out and i think that wrestle dream will be darby versus swerve more likely i don't know if hangman if hangman shows up to house of glory i'm critting my pants um yeah that's a good question though if if ryan does win who do you think is possibly going to beat brian swerve i want my look back i darby doesn't sound like the worst idea darby makes a lot of sense you know hangman hangman could also be the one coming up with this this loss and stuff too yeah my long shot story of dan coming back and beating him makes a lot of sense that's a lot of stuff why wouldn't you say damn my mom was like damn can't house and be the one to be brian bro i i would i would i would sell w a w he doesn't that it doesn't matter what they would come and burn a w down if that happened i don't think i think you would get a legit pop out of people like you don't want this a doesn't say it's not they burn anything down i pop the den house and beat them in jail uh one twin place says breaking news dr ruth has passed yeah i saw that this morning that's horrible rest in peace of dr ruth and then oh yeah also that rest in peace to shelly devol passed away oh yeah rest in peace shelly devol well this week right that was thursday that was thursday when we did ask rutsy yeah and then our last super chat of the day is from our friend land twin blade he says dizzy rascal and swerve perform at all and i mean swerve they are doing a performance fuzzy swerve and flash garments i think the night before in london so when you said that oh like to think of is one of these things is not like the other uh the idea of jereco like uh like jumping next to him doing the top bro jereco you want to get over swerve when you drive this yeah you do it jereco i like the learning tree hi guys i'm here to swerve do you know if you swerve and you drive you're going too fast see oh god uh that's all our superchats that's everything there's one more that's oh yeah i bring you back we have one more hopper chat i believe uh that's the long ass pod uh from tonyp says damn i just got off work and y'all still on also did we talk about conan's dumb ass yet because i am sure y'all dug into them weird hangman fans being mad i hate to take a fan off the ledge i hate to take a fan off the ledge in one of reg's uh tweets uh no i didn't take a talk about conan and i have no interest no one talks about conan i don't even know what happened so i oh not conan oh brian i know what conan thing he's talking about yeah or conan the wrestler conan was talking some shit about tony conan and saying yeah he said he got mad at him for calling one of the wrestlers some chick which is like yeah she has a name like yeah like why are you doing that conan's just being weird yeah that's weird yeah i mean old men who used to wrestle y'all and other men who wrestle classic story but yeah as always man appreciate you guys for hanging with us for almost four hours i can't believe there are so many people still in this dream listening to it unbelievable it kept going up appreciate all of your hopper chats all of your super chats uh appreciate crest of pulling up as usual uh you got collision tonight with the same brother with him no it's gonna be me and already and we listen i know feeling red's getting mad when i don't invite them but if y'all want to come down to collision tonight we can we do not get mad when you don't invite us that's okay all right guys it's been real i'm going to hell now now i got the collision show tonight it's just gonna be myself and already in a two-girl power trip at this point i love you rick bao bao bao we're gonna we're gonna use you as the logo we're gonna put you in the fire every time every time we're sick y'all y'all let rick yeah you see that guys calling me because he's probably like you guys are still podcasting because i hate get the fuck off the air uh but yeah this has been grabs to the as always appreciate you guys i feel Lindsay righteous rage rest of star we are out of here prime day is coming july 16th and 17th with epic deals exclusively for prime members you'll feel like you just won an award oh wow i didn't even prepare a speech uh i'd like to thank my family for always needing stuff uh also sam my delivery guy for bringing all my awesome deals so fast you're the man fail just deals on electronics home and more this prime day july 16th and 17th every day we rise challenging ourselves to work for what we 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