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They think it's underrated. Do they think that the algorithm might be be squashing my views for some reason? I don't know why but let's find out today. I can't imagine Seven minutes into the stream and nazis have been dropped at least once but um carlin It's been a while since you've been on you've you've been doing some things You've been had some things to say about the libertarian party and you've had some controversial takes as is surprising from you And uh, yeah, I just wanted to pick your brain get a little bit of an update on on your stand But before we get too deeply, I want to get your thoughts on my uh, my co-host Dave Casey Whatever the floor is yours I think Dave Casey kind of feeds when uh when rekton wall lost the presidential nomination And it was really kind of a shame because I had connected with Dave Casey on another show that we were both on and I thought like Relations were good and then he that kind of just had a breakdown when rekton wall lost and man I like I was in rekton wall's corner, but like and I kind of I kind of could understand it I know he was doing stuff with him, um, but it was just a little bit much So I guess you know he blocked me on twitter for um for basically saying that he was a sore loser And I guess you know, it is what it is. I'm not gonna cry about it or anything. Hmm I don't know anything about that. I do know that uh, the rekton world campaign ending has I don't know if it snapped Dave Casey's brain or something I wasn't there for the drama that you apparently witnessed because now Dave Casey's just full clown world chill Dave and just hanging out watching the world burn with me and uh, that's where I like him, but Hey, good. If he's if he's not feezing out anymore, I legitimately think that's good I actually had no problem with the guy other than the breakdown he had one rekton wall lost I realized like what the hell is even going on. Yeah Well, that's enough about Dave because who cares about Dave actually go check out Dave You just put out a special today that is his DC recap all the the little interviews that he did Go check him out at Dave versus Goliath one Dave V. Goliath one. I hope I'm getting that right I should really know it by now, but um carlin Let's talk about you um for anybody who's not familiar with your work just give give a brief synopsis of of your history Of my history. I mean what I do right now is I do deep dives into the radical revolutionary far left I go undercover at their trainings. I show people what they're doing behind closed doors when um when no one's listening And sadly no one actually pays it Well, I shouldn't say no one pays attention to that a lot of people pay attention to that But the things that I'm most well known for are tweets that people don't like and um friends that I have that People don't like which I kind of think is a shame and stupid Um, but I don't know like I'm I guess I I talk to a lot of people I've interacted with a lot of communities and sometimes it's worked out and sometimes it hasn't and um And I guess I don't know. I don't know where you want me to go Dan I don't know like when to give me give me a direction because I need more sure well um Before we get too deeply into like chase or any of the current stuff um I've I mean a lot of people have said that you you stir up drama you stir up uh tensions Do you feel like that is your your mission your goal or does no just natural no? I just I I honestly spend like the vast majority of my time doing the socialist stuff and the far left stuff And it's like people seem to think if I an express an opinion in a single tweet on a topic I'm stirring up drama and it's just like I'm like like it's the internet people are allowed to express opinions If you don't like it You don't have to like whine and complain in my comments and and do these hate campaigns and do all this stuff Like I kind of pulled myself out of libertarian politics Just because of all the drama and all the infighting and all the all the nonsense I haven't really been paying attention to it because it's like every time any opinion was expressed It was like it was it was an instant meltdown and I was like, okay This is not a good use to my time So the vast majority of my time is actually spent doing stuff on the far left And if people can't look at my youtube channel and see that and look at my sub stack and see that I cover dozens of hours of this content every single week. That's just not intellectually honest. I don't think Yeah, now every time I have you on the show, I get a lot of new friends It would seem who have a lot of things to say on the internet about you. So you've made some enemies You know what it is though I actually just uh, I actually just had a really interesting conversation just last night And I actually did a stream about it where um Where there was a person that used to be involved in like the the people that were coming after me on twitter And he actually confirmed a lot of things that I said in that and this is not a joke This is this is everything I'm about to say is real There is actually an organized campaign run by like one person in particular That um that feels entitled to things he wasn't entitled to That he actually started all these telegram groups monitoring everything I was saying online He started groups about my tweets my my videos He started a support group for anyone I had blocked on twitter And so what they do all day is they sit in these telegram groups just obsessing over me all day And anytime someone mentions me anytime someone has me on their show Anytime any anytime I have a tweet that goes viral or anything They actually coordinate among each other to go into the comments to reach out to contact people And their stated goal and and this is what the person said to me that I talked to last night And he had worked with them for a while He said that he asked them one time when are you gonna stop harassing carlin and the answer was when she's dead So this is actually like a real thing and and so I don't actually take responsibility for being the one stirring up drama The fact is I've had this gangstocking thing going on for years That's led by a small core group of people that has spiraled out of control And I guess what I would say to people is if they have questions about it. They're welcome to come to my normal streams They're welcome to ask me directly. I'm not actually insane Um, I might be a little crazy sometimes I might have crazy ideas, but I'm not actually So I have a little bit of a pass But you know, I mean that's what I would say to people is like do your own research come to the stream See for yourself and judge for yourself and don't listen to what anonymous accounts say on the internet because they're just trying to cause problems Sure now, I I mean, I've known you for a while and I've seen Seeing people come and go who like you and then hate you and like you and then hate you um And I I've caught some of your streams and I see all the the hate that you get on there and I'm I'm I don't understand entirely But where do you find all these people that hate you so much? Well, what are the circles that you hang out in that make make everybody? I don't have this problem and I talk about similar things Because the thing is it's it's a targeted attack, right? So it starts with this core group of people they bring all these other people in and then they they basically they create multiple accounts To make it seem like there's more of them than they actually are So I don't think this is a case of like me going out and finding these people Literally if you reverse engineer anyone that's ever gone after me on the internet and you look at who they're following and who they're interacting with It is always universally linked back to this core group of people And so there are a lot of people on the internet that have no issue with me you and I have met each other in person We've hung out. We've had beers. We've you know, like we we've like you you know that like Like it's not like i'm actually like not that that crazy in real life I actually like not really that interesting in real life. And so how do I Knitting and and weed and stuff like that like listening to the libertarians talk boring shit Yeah, I mean and that's and that's what it actually is But I think that people like drama on the internet and they like controversy and anything that they can stir up to get attention for themselves They think is a good thing no matter who they hurt no matter how many times they lie or anything like that And it's it's it's really quite sad. I think honestly And quite frankly whenever I catch one of your streams and you're talking about somebody who's Attacking or there's back and forth drama or whatever. I never have heard of the person that you're talking about like without fail I've never heard of a single one of them. I know Because most of them have smaller platforms than I do and some people might say well That's the reason you shouldn't talk about it But you know, I mean the thing of it is is like when I decided to do this internet thing I kind of said to myself like the number one priority for me is I want to show people an authentic human experience I want to talk about what I'm experiencing and how I'm looking at things and stuff like that And that's bigger to me than any of like the content that I might cover and things like that And so it's always been very important to me to talk about these things because this stuff is real And this stuff happens on the internet all the time And I feel like I've done a better job than most of like actually documenting the gang stalking stuff that I've had to deal with And it's not I mean damn their literal goal was to get me to off myself like like truly That was their goal with this and um and every time someone plays into this stuff They they're they're contributing to that like it's it's an incredibly toxic thing But again, I would just say to people if you actually come to my content and watch my content The vast majority of it is about the radical revolutionary far left like like bar like I mean 95 percent of it is about that So, you know, that's what I do most of the time Yeah, and to give a little bit of context like since I've known you and correct me if I'm wrong But since I've known of you you went from left to right to mega to libertarian to lp&h to mrs caucus to niggas to chase not really not really so so I was so I did leave the left That's true Um, I would I was never on the right really I never considered myself a conservative I would say that I would I never actually really defined myself as mega either Like in 2020 like I ended up voting for trump because I was kind of like This was like a lesser of the two evils type thing And I hated the left so much that I had to go in with the the right in order to do it But I was always more libertarian in my thinking and I'm still a libertarian I might be hanging out with Nick wantas and the grippers But they understand that I'm a libertarian. I have conversations with this with them about this all the time They're trying very hard to convert me, but that's just not what's happening And so when I left um after biting got into office, I you know the the the mises caucus came and recruited me And um and actually started and I and started hanging out with more people in new hampshire Like dennis pratt and just no donnel and like these these really serious libertarians that have been libertarians for a long time And I was I actually considered myself to be very lucky that I learned from I learned from dennis Like dennis like took me under his wing and he taught me and I know you know dennis and you know It's just like the best guy in the world and um and and I I completely aligned with that philosophy And and so that is where I am and that is where I have I've stayed Basically since I started interacting with the libertarians now the mises caucus dissolved in new hampshire That wasn't my fault. I was actually trying to help the mises caucus But the mises caucus dissolved in new hampshire. They started attacking everyone. They lied about me Like jeff douglas actually emailed my mother trying to smear me. I got an email from my mother one day on facebook saying carlin This crazy person is just email me saying all these crazy things about you and i'm like i'm gonna take care of that Don't worry about it. And so like I like I want I liked the mises caucus. I supported the mises caucus I put thousands of dollars in my own money into supporting the mises caucus And then it all imploded and jeff douglas started lying about me everywhere So I can't be involved in that there literally is no mises caucus in new hampshire in regards to the lpnh I was fully bought into the lpnh. I wasn't I was and I supported um, you know, conrad nelson who got elected Chair of the lpnh and then two months after he got elected chair He took away the keys to the twitter account for two days and then there was a massive meltdown and then Um, they they ended up removing conrad is sharing conrad nelson is like one of the best guys in the world He's one of the best libertarians. I know in new hampshire his wife ash is awesome They're their personal friends of ours and I was like, I'm not taking you guys are having a hissy fit over a twitter account I'm not taking your side over conrad side. This is this is ridiculous And so but they they ended up winning they got him out of the chair position Now jeremy coughman basically controls the twitter account and is acting like a raving lunatic And honestly like what jeremy and all of them were doing with the twitter account drove a lot of really good people out of the lpnh That it was just causing a lot of problems for people people's jobs were getting called people lost businesses They lost clients and this is when I was kind of like all right. I'm I don't want the main tweets Yeah, I mean, well, there were some things that I like about the edge, right? I mean, there's some things that I think are good about it But some of them were just going beyond beyond the pail And there was this constant talk behind the scenes of putting these processes in place to make sure that you know Things didn't happen that we're affecting people in in real life And just it just never happened and it was always dismissed and anyone who spoke out against them was attacked And it just it got to be too much. And so when conrad was wrongfully removed his chair of the party over a twitter account That's when I kind of pieced out and and currently in new hampshire the lpnh doesn't even do anything They they have a twitter account. I'm sure they had a tent at pork fest where they did some stuff But really it's all about the twitter account and that's it Yeah, I don't know. I don't follow these things that closely more closely than is, you know, healthy But still not as closely as some I do touch grass every once in a while But um, did you happen to make it out to pork fest this year? Did you take the year off? No, I I'm not going I'm not involving myself in that There's just like again There were just too many people there that I just didn't want to be around and and it's it's a shame too because there are people there That I love like I would have loved to hung out with Dennis I would love to see bony like there were a whole bunch of people there that I that I wanted to see Um, but I was just like I was just like I can't do it this year So now sadly I didn't go. Yeah. Do you know? Do you have any of the inside scoop at all in the the local as far as uh, The success rate at pork fest is here compared to last year. I noticed a dip in in speakers a little bit I I you know, I've heard there were a lot of people that were upset about things at pork fest this year I ended up because I was kind of like not like not I I got added to a lot of like anti pork fest organizer groups at some point and so um, yeah There were a lot of people that were talking smack about it, but I don't really know what happened I wasn't paying attention the weather was awful though. It was either like 800 degrees or raining So I'm kind of glad that I wasn't on a campground for that. You missed mike termont speech though I interviewed mike termont like a couple weeks ago. So all right. I mean, I mean he does say the same thing every time so yeah, you know, it's fine but uh, so In in your normal Stuff you do focus a lot on exposing socialist leftist stuff. Do you want to get into a little bit of what you do there? Yeah, so basically I go inside leftist trainings that other people really aren't seeing on the internet and just to show you what they're actually saying behind closed doors I also go undercover at events where I actually like had to dress up in a disguise and everything and you know a couple of things that i've done is Um, I went undercover at the socialism 2023 conference, which was basically like this three-day Conference of the most far left radical activists in the country. I went to Chicago for it I dressed up as a non-binary person I bought these glasses for it specifically because they look leftist. I dyed my hair I even wore a chest binder like all this stuff. Um, and uh, I ended up getting the president of the american library association on Recording saying that libraries need to be sites of socialist organizing and that kind of like went viral on the internet I got a bunch of other stuff too. I actually got them on tape saying how they're sneaking critical race theory and things like that into Classrooms in florida to get around ron de santis's anti-woke laws Um, I got a lot of stuff. Um, talking them talking about what they're doing in terms of like reproductive justice stuff like that People can find that on my sub stack which is carland.substack.com The most recent undercover thing I did was actually really crazy I went out to colorado and there was a Conference at the university of colorado called the transforming gender conference And so I was undercover there and I went to this one presentation that I kid you not and I got the whole thing recorded again You can find this on my sub stack. It was about how multiple personality disorder is a gender identity called system gender And and the different the different person and there and there were there were two different personalities that did this presentation But it was one person and they switched personalities during the presentation and one of them was like, uh, he him and the other one was uh And he actually was like it it it's pronouns. It was either they them or it it's And um, and I had to sit there with a straight base. I was like in the front row looking at this person and I swear to god Dan, I got possessed by a demon and the person I believe you literally I was tweaking at the end of it's so bad. It was so awful I don't I don't doubt it. Um, I mean in those situations like I know you're not a christian or anything What do you think? Like do you think there is a spiritual element to some of the the woke shit that we're seeing some of this like embracing of mental disorders? Well, you know, yeah, that's exactly what it is is they are trying to uh embrace mental health disorders as part of like Their core identity and and not not in a way where they're treating them But in a way that they're saying this is who we are and you need to accommodate These disorders and they specifically target autistic people so like the libertarian party would be like a happy hunting ground for them but like they Yeah, I mean true though, but like they really do target specifically autistic kids in school for for gender identity Um, I have the autistic sex ed training on my website where they talk about like going into schools And they have a specific sex ed training They do with autistic kids to convince them that they're like non binary and trans and and stuff like that. Um, when they're really young Um, so I mean like like I'm not I'm not kidding when I say I was possessed by a demon Like I was I happen to be with someone that like does energy work and stuff like that And I was kind of staying with her when I was covering this and we went out to lunch directly after this presentation And I was just tweaking the entire time and finally like we're walking through like the like downtown boulder or something And she's like carlin I need you to bend over and grab onto that rock right now And she actually did like an exorcism on me in the middle of downtown boulder where she pushed the evil energy out of me And into the ground and it's something that like I know that sounds crazy But like I could physically feel it like going out of me and into the ground and then I was fine after that But it really was a very bizarre experience I don't doubt it even though coming from a white woman that just seems like, you know Just par for the course just exercises in the road or scream sessions in the woods but um On the the topic of anti-wokeness, let's just go ahead and talk about some chase Um, because uh chase is well actually before we talk about chase. We got it. We got to play Jase Jase, Jase, Jase, Jase, Jase, Jase C H A S E J E S Jase That's right. It's another episode of chase and cop Where we we follow very closely the the libertarian party's presidential candidate um much more closely than any other media is going to but um Now with chase and cop you have come out there's with him getting the spot There was a lot of pushback. There's been a lot of ruffled feathers um I I'm not without ruffled feathers of my own and I have my own complaints and people may or may not have hired me to make videos Even against chase. So there's a lot of splitting that's going on in the libertarian party surprise prize It's it's never been known to happen in the past but um What just just just give it to me. What's your what's your case for chase? So I want to say this first like I supported rekton walt even with the uh with with my issues with amissus caucus I adore michael rekton walt. I think he's great I think he would have been a great presidential candidate and I remember when I saw the vote come back My heart actually broke for him because I knew how badly he wanted it And so I want people to know that like I wasn't supporting chase going into this I was I was like I had michael rekton walt on my channel I never even talked about chase But the thing of it is is my perspective on it is like once a decision gets made That's the decision And I'm sorry like chase all of her was better at playing politics than than the missus caucus was in this round And and maybe like more attention should be paid to the fact that like chase all of her one fair and square Like they the missus caucus had every advantage that they could have And I know that that michael heist puts together these planning documents because I saw the planning documents in 2022 And it's like you just lost. I'm sorry you just lost and the reason that I think that um chase is not I don't think that chase is as bad as joe dorgensen is because first of all I started paying attention to him in 2022 when he Became the spoiler in the georgia senate race And one thing I saw about him and I noticed was that he was campaigning really hard He was putting in really good debate performances He was you know going to these these events where he was like, you know giving speeches You know advocating for you know things that like police reform and stuff like that And so I was like, you know what like I might not agree with the guy on everything But I really like people and appreciate people who do things in the real world and who actually show up and do work because quite frankly I've been around so many libertarians that place a higher priority on bickering and infighting and nonsense and spreading lies and defamation And slander like all this stuff and and it's just like, you know To see someone actually show up and do something in the real world was refreshing to me I also had kind of been keeping an eye on him and I don't think you can deny that like He campaigned harder than anyone else That's just the way it went and he was out there all the time doing stuff And so I have a very deep respect for people who just show up consistently every day And um, you know He was a long shot candidate and I think that he was probably shocked that he won more than anyone And but he won because he played the game better and I think that once there is a decision People need to put their fiefies away and they need to get on board with what the decision is or very minimally stop sabotaging other people This is the thing that I just can't stand about libertarian politics Is it's all about just sabotaging other people like can't we lean into the fact that? Chases the only anti-war candidate in the race because that's actually kind of a big deal like We we very considered like conceivably could be getting into a war with a rant. They're very considered They're very conceivably could be a draft brought back Like these are real problems in the world that he could be like a mouthpiece to speak out against and having the only voice In the presidential contest that's going to actively speak out about those things But no, we have to bicker about these things that don't really matter In just to sabotage it because people are sore losers because they're candidate lost Yeah, now that does remind me of One Nick Sarwark back in the day when he was debating uh dave smith And he said something to the effect of if hitler becomes the the candidate for the libertarian party Then you should vote for him or dick chaney or whoever Do you think do you agree with that notion? Is that what you're saying about chase here That chase is literally hitler. No, no, I'm not saying chase literally Like you're supporting him because he's the candidate or you're saying they should at least shut up get the fiefies together Because he's the candidate. Would you agree if it was hitler? Yeah I would just support more. I don't know at this point Well, I mean I have to go with the candidate that I have and I think that like I actually don't think chase is that bad I really don't I don't think he's as woke as people say when you actually look at his positions I mean, listen I spend all day covering the radical revolutionary far left if I look at someone and and and their entire education policy Is defund the department of education that person's not woke Woke people use education in order to indoctrinate kids in order to believe their ideas That's like the entire premise of what the far left does And so if you want to abolish the department of education, that is actually the very opposite of woke I also look at chase's policies and I don't agree with him on a lot of things around Gender ideology and things like that, but I look at him and I think you know He's probably just a guy that grew up as a young gay boy And and knows what that's like and doesn't want people to have it as hard as he had it And so I think that he really doesn't understand like the ins and outs of the culture stuff as as well as a lot of other people And this is what I use my interview with mike termont to really talk about Was what I what I think is one of the most critical issues that's going on right now that people aren't talking about Is a tax on parental rights? Because this is a this is something that the far left is doing where they are they're going through these policies and schools And um in in just like local local and state policies and laws to try to Virtually eliminate parental rights in this country and what that means is your kids aren't going to be raised by you They're going to be raised by the state And I think that what I see chase talking about is he is protecting parental rights for everyone And I think that a lot of libertarians have forgotten that Parental rights mean doesn't mean just parental rights for you to be able to raise your kids the way you want And quite frankly protect your kids from gender ideology It means parental rights for everyone And that means that sometimes people are going to raise their kids in a way that you don't want them to be raised And I'm old enough to remember just a couple of years ago When a lot of people were saying if you don't get your kids vaccinated against covid, that's child abuse And so I don't want the government intervening with that to say like non-vaccination is child abuse And I I don't want the government intervening with parental rights at all And I think that that's one of the things that needs to be protected at all costs And what I see chase doing is saying that and what I see the sore loser brigade doing Is saying that they want only parental rights enforced when it complies with how they want to raise their kids Well, I don't disagree with them being able to raise their kids however they want But why is it their business what anyone else does with their kids? Well So chase's position as far as I understand it is Adults or parents should be allowed to transition their children with hormones, but not surgery Um, yeah, I think so that's my understanding of his position His parents should be allowed to use like puberty blockers and things like that I don't think I've seen him say hormones I think I have seen him say puberty blockers But what I have seen them lean into more so is like, you know If your kid wants to experiment with cutting their hair or dressing in different clothes or going by a different name He doesn't have a problem with that now. That's something I disagree with him on I don't think they should be messing with kids like that I've seen enough kids socially transitioned into gender ideology that I think it's a bad idea But I also don't think that these attacks on him that I do think are unfairly characterizing what his position is That's not a way to actually get him to change his position and evolve on this issue It's more like you've got to come from the place where like again He was a young gay boy that probably just wants kids to be able to grow up in an easier way Than than he did if they're gay or whatever And I think if you can talk to him in a more reasonable way about this and and show him Here are ways in which socially transitioning kids in school has actually resulted in harm to these kids And maybe can we think about other ways to do this? I think he might be more open to that if it was a more reasonable conversation Rather than mischaracterizing him as a pedophile Which I've seen a lot of people doing online, which I just don't think is true And so what I tried to do when I had mic term on on my channel was to say Here are all the attacks on parental rights that we see can we have a conversation about how to protect parental rights? And maybe instead of the government enforcing Um, like like laws against gender transition or any of that Maybe it's about lobbying the medical associations to make this unethical and going about it in other ways that are not governmental I understand that note you say that perhaps he was just a gay boy who grew up in a democrat household And he's kind of going with the flow neat transition um, no pun intended uh to libertarianism at some point and you know The the issue that I see is more with like sure you can be a libertarian and have differing views or What have you but once you become the spokesperson for everybody I I understand Where people are coming from when they're like we had Gary johnson because You know because of ranked choice voting or whatever happened then we had joe jorgensen and we're just kind of sick of it And at this point with all the wokeshit ramping up to such a level even if you know to know at no fault of his own He was you know businesses or you should go out in social distance. You should mask up You should I know that he wasn't pro government mandates or whatnot, but um the amount of Topics between that open borders trans kids that type of thing to where it just seems like He's kind of coming along to uh to a point where he could get to A little bit more of a reasonable stance on some of these things But um he's now the mouthpiece for the libertarian party basically and he's speaking for you Do you have a problem with him speaking for you and having these opinions? I mean, I don't think he's speaking for me because I don't think any one person speaks for me and a party certainly doesn't speak for me I don't agree with a lot of things he stands for but i'm but i'm perfectly capable of standing up and saying I don't agree with this. I think this is a better idea I think with this though, um if people wanted him to change his position They've gone through exactly the wrong way to do it like the amount of nonsense and lies that i've seen told about this guy And again, this is someone that is actually out there doing things It's actually like you know campaigning every single day talking to people in the real world every single day I think he's someone that could pull a lot of people in from from honestly both sides of the aisle And I just think it's a really squandered opportunity Especially when he got up right after he got nominated and said his goal was to lean heavily into the anti war platform And everyone could have tried and get behind that but no the minute he got the nomination The smear campaign from the sore loser brigade like began and I just think it was incredibly unfair to him And it's like I don't have to agree with everyone on everything to say that if you want someone to change their position You don't get you don't get in their face lie about them on a national stage Um like mischaracterize everything they think call them a pedophile call them a groomer call them all these names That's not how you get people to change their mind and evolve their position And so if the goal was to make chase a better candidate, they all failed in that regard and at the end of the day It's kind of like he won. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You lost. I'm sorry. You didn't play politics as well as he did I'm sorry that you tried like the mises caucus tried to get exactly the same deal with mike termont That chase all of her tried to get and mike termont chose chase all of her and sometimes them are just the ropes And it's kind of like you know, I see people like karen and harlow's who was going out You know years ago saying sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose some and now She's like basically like being one of the sore loser brigade as well And she's on the freaking national board of the of the lnc and it's like, you know I think a lot of people really have just lost a lot of perspective and the infighting in the libertarian party is what will ultimately prevent it from Being the effective tool that some people want it to be Now on the topic of cop mike termont, um What's your what's your stance on him first? Um, I think he seems like uh, I don't know. I mean, I like you say nice guy this this conversation's over That's all anybody ever has to say about mike termont. He's a real nice guy though Well, what I will say about mike termont is I had a great conversation with him about parento rights on my channel And i'll tell you he wasn't coming into that conversation actually seeing my point because I tried to prep him before the conversation to say This is what I want to talk about and he was like, maybe I'll agree with you and maybe I won't but by the end of the conversation He he did agree with us and he he committed to um, supporting parento rights as strongly as he possibly could and honestly That's what I care about right now. Dan like that's so so I will mike termont Want me over on a single issue and that is on a bash support of parento rights without government intervention Which is again one of the most important issues. I think we should be talking about that no one's talking about Okay. Now with mike termont, he I think he was on Austin peterson show where he was asked about the the transing children issue and he seemed to have differing views from chase he seemed to Well first and foremost the campaigns position and therefore my position because the campaign's position is the most important Is this and then he gave his lecture on what the campaign believed and then eventually Austin peterson broke him down to the point where He basically said you should be putting our kids in christian schools. You shouldn't be putting them in public schools And I don't really support it. I don't want to put words in the mouth But he didn't even seem to agree with chase on that matter. Do you think there's a concern with um with a candidate You know just going with the flow of their campaign I think i'm not involved in the campaign in any way. I don't want to be involved in the campaign any way I'm a person expressing an opinion on the internet and I think that that's their issue to work out. I mean That's kind of how I feel about again. I'm gonna push for this. I've said it. I said on the show earlier this week. I'm pushing for a chase all of her versus mike termot debate on this issue Welcome on my show. You guys can both fight it out and uh whoever wins Whoever wins the poll gets that that will be the campaign's new message and we'll just go from there As long as they're supporting parental rights without government intervention, then I don't care. I'm on board now When you say parental advice at parental rights without government intervention Where where does that land for you as far as the like surgical? Do you do you think surgical should be fine for parents? No, no, what I think what I think is that that should be handled through medical ethics boards and just basically a societal shame I think that's it's one of those things where like we should make it so inconceivable to do this to For parents to do this to kids on a social level and it's like again the same thing like once you once you get involved with The government mandating what is and is not child abuse You get things like the government says that not getting your kids vaccinated for covid is child abuse and now all of a sudden your kids Have to have covid shots and boosters every six months and stuff like that Otherwise you're abusing your kid. This was a couple years ago that this happened And so it's one of those things I want the government out of this entirely I think most parents love their kids They want what's best for their kids and they're going to these doctors that are get that are that are pulling them into these ideas that are just blatantly wrong And so what I think we should be doing is articulating first of all Really working on getting this information out to parents so they understand what gender ideology is they understand when it shows up in the world They understand when their kids are being targeted by it. I think that we should be doing everything we can to defund 100 of public education. I'm not just a department of education. I want all public education defunded I think that you know, it should return to families and homeschooling and things like that I'm no more taxing us to educate other people's kids based on whatever indoctrination standards the schools has I think that should be a priority. I also think that again targeting medical ethics boards making sure that Like it like it may not be like against the law to do this stuff But you could you lose your medical license if you do this stuff? I think that should be a priority So I think all of these things are on the table and again like transing kids is something that like I'm sorry Like I have actually broken more stories about grooming in public schools than like any other independent journalist in the country And so when people try to characterize me as being in favor of this just because I'm not in favor of government intervention I have to look at them and say where the hell were you? Where the hell were you when I was breaking stories about the Burlington Vermont school district grooming 12-year-old children on the internet? Where were you when I was breaking stories about the Cambridge, Massachusetts school district spending $32,000 a taxpayer money Hiring gender trainers to come into their school. Where were you when I broke the story about autistic sex education that was being presented by the university of Pittsburgh That was uh at the national sex ed conference that was going out into into all schools across the country Where were you when I went undercover at the at the national sex ed conference last December and recorded an entire conversation about how they were eliminating parental rights These people that are just using this issue for online clout and points It really I find it very disgusting because these are real problems that are affecting real people and real kids are suffering because of this And it's like we have to come up with real solutions that are practical And I see a lot of people playing online games rather than actually doing anything about it Now you say not government overreach to stop these things from happening, but some sort of uh medical ethics board Is there that much of a difference between one authority is it still authoritarianism if if you're if If people don't think that it's child abuse in a smaller case and they're abusing their child Um, is it any different than a grander scale saying that's child abuse you're not allowed to do I think there is a big difference between the state mandating something and the state telling parents how to raise their kids and a medical ethics board saying Here is how doctors will ethically behave in these situations because that's not that's not funded by our tax dollars That's that's that's that's like a that's a that's a private like licensing thing And so I just like I mean, I just don't know how people can't see the difference between these two things. I guess I suppose I mean, I think at the end of the day. It's like what i'm saying here is that I think this stuff is wrong I've been fighting this stuff on the ground more than most of the libertarians who use this for political points Even knew what it was. I've been working with parents who actually did have their kids socially transitioned for years And so it's like I I really just again when when I see these games being played to try to Discredit people on twitter by people who don't actually do this stuff in the real world I find it just to be a little disingenuous And it's like if you actually believe that the goal is to prevent the gender transition of children the social transition of children Then we should have honest conversations about what that requires because playing these games on twitter is not going to stop anything Okay I'm gonna keep playing them, but um that to each their own uh, so would you say that um Given the pros the cons of chase termat what have you and we can keep going back onto those but because there's there's plenty more but um With where they stand right now. Do you do they have your vote? Are you planning on voting libertarian or you go in somewhere else? Yeah, I'm not voting for trump I'm absolutely not voting for trump and i'm not voting for biden and so it's kind of like my decision right now is do I vote at all and it's kind of like Well, you know, it's kind of like if I vote at all i'll definitely throw the libertarian my vote. Um, and so it's kind of but it's also kind of like It like one of their choices. Do I have right? Um, and so that's kind of where I stand right now But I I really I guess trump has vivake still know I don't think trump's gonna have a vake. I don't think that's gonna happen Um, but I guess we'll see tonight we're supposed to find out um tonight who the vp is but I mean maybe if trump Like that could that that could honestly maybe be one of the things that would sway me because I really like vivake And I think he's I think he would be an asset, but I just don't think trump's gonna go that way Yeah, I kind of feel the same and i've been saying the same I I definitely do not intend on voting for trump. I have no plan to do so and I don't want to do so But it's almost like all of society is begging me to vote for trump with all the gaslighting and everything with all the like the hairy systems of the world saying like trump is mentally unfit to be president because he had he touched donald trump jr's hand while walking down a ramp like Just the amount of gaslighting that's going on is it almost it it feels like as a conspiracy guy It feels like somebody really wants me to vote for trump almost like that's the plan But uh, do you think there's anything to that? Or do you think this is all free and fair and our vote actually fucking matters? Well, I mean, do you know who doesn't want you to vote for trump who? Nick Fuentes Oh shit Look at that transition. Oh shit Now before we get into Nick Fuentes, I did have one more thing on chase that on desk. Um, there's the this uh basically the strategy that angela mccartill has put forward of not not endorsing Uh, chase all over Yeah, uh, endorsing chase all of her in blue states in order to beat joe biden Angela is full of shit. Angela should resign I'm sorry like this is just this is ridiculous Angela mccartill should resign and i'm someone that I was supported angela But if she can't come out and support the presidential candidate for the party She has no business being the chair of the party And i'm sorry Angela's strategy doesn't even make sense based on the live stream that she did where she was like We have this polling data that says that chase is only pulling votes from blue voters Well, then you know what her strategy actually should be she should be promoting chase heavily in swing states That should be the strategy because if if it is true that chase all of her is only pulling votes from blue voters Then the very best strategy would be to support him in swing states where he's going to pull more democrat votes Thus making it possible for trump to win but angela knows that's not the case Which is why she's not doing it and when I questioned her about this on twitter She said we don't talk about these things publicly and this was a day after she did a live stream saying she supported chase in all blue states So no, I think angela's behaving incredibly or responsibly. I'm really disappointed I thought maybe she would be the adult in the room and I think she should resign I disagree wholeheartedly and I think it's it's it's based in fun as hell Um, hey, man. We can still get what we can we can still be friends. We'll still have beards. It's cool Like I mean, we don't have I will call you an anti-semit the whole time, but that's only because of the next topic before we get to the next topic Let's talk briefly about um the sponsor of the show who has a video here that I know where it is We're doing great you guys. All right, we will if you find yourself in a political battle and injured on the job And you need to sue the sue somebody's pants off you should go to lonestar injury Have you or loved one been injured by some fuck nuggets reckless driving a tumble at your shitty job or some other form of dumb Shit outside of your control. 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I'm ignoring you all Um, if you have something that you'd like to say that I won't ignore put fake super chat and all caps Because youtube hates you and hates me and hates when anybody makes money doing anything of any real value So put fake super chat and all caps and we'll try to get to them at some point If you got any questions for carlin questions for me any any racial slurs you want to call either of us That's perfectly fine. Go right ahead. It's it's your account. But um, yeah on the angela thing. I think that it is Uh, it's certainly unprecedented Does it go against any actual bylaws for like if she were to come out and say I do not support chase all of her Would that be again something that you know she she basically has come out and says she doesn't support him She only supports him in certain states and not in other states and I i'm sorry I haven't heard her say that she doesn't support him anywhere I've heard her say that she supports him in all the blue states Well, but but but but what what what what does that imply? And i'm sorry angela is a fool if she thinks that trump's going to keep his promises like trump is promising everything to everyone He's being a politician. He doesn't care about ras albrecht There's no way in hell he get free on day one if he wanted to free ras albrecht he should have done it in his first term So trump is lying to people to try to get him get everyone on his side because he's running for president And uh angela bought right into it and it really makes me question her overall intelligence I don't know if it's so much that she bought into it I don't think anybody's delusional enough to think that trump's going to do anything that he says he's going to do at this point But I think there is value to having the former president and possible uh up and coming president On a stage, especially as the video guy. I've got these spicy clips now of donald trump saying i'm a libertarian Okay, if I wasn't before I sure said i'm a libertarian now. We know that that's not true i'm going to free ras probably not true libertarian in the cabinet uh probably not true but We've never had a president say that before so it's at least a step in the right direction I mean fair point and I guess the the clips are fine But like what why is an angela right now? Uh piggybacking on julian assange and that and and that deal that that biting gut or whatever happened because angela could be right now Not like using the entire force of the libertarian party to say all right you you free julian assange now It's time to free ras all brick jul biden. Why why isn't there a full court press on that? If if people really care about freeing ras as much as they claim to care about it Why would they want to wait until donald trump is maybe inaugurated into office in january? And then maybe he keeps his promise do a full court press on biden right now packing piggybacking on the assange thing Do you do you think that the libertarian do you think some don't trump's statements uh toward pandering to the libertarians had anything to do with the freeing of assange Um, oh, I mean, I think that joe biden is absolutely doing a preemptive strike on trump because now trump can no longer use the talking Point that he'll free assange which by the way, he probably wasn't going to anyway because if he wanted to free him He would have done it in this first term right? Yeah, and that's that's what I said on I think tuesday's episode It's not like trump didn't know who assange was he might not have known who ras was at you know in his first term but you can't tell me that he didn't know who edwards noted and julian assange were and Which still shows to pardon rob bloke away of it instead because You know the worst part in less in the history of pardonless. It was awful. Yeah, it's pretty bad Yeah, I'm not under any delusion that trump is going to be any better than he was last time Which was better than joe biden and also not great. I do understand As you said, there's not really good choice to vote for so I understand if libertarians are like Well, donald trump at least set it and i'm gonna go for it, but you know Um, let's talk about speaking of literally hitlers um nick fauntez your your latest comrad in arms apparently which is a a strange pair up Uh seeing you uh seeing you getting mad at libertarians for not supporting their nominee who is uh, you know Some say a very woke gentleman who supports woke ideologies and then also supporting Nicholas j fauntez in his uh his rise to power is the pipeline complete Is the alt right pipeline finally here that was predicted the prophecy? Oh, I don't I don't I don't know about that But I mean, but the fact of the matter is again anyone who's saying that chase all of her is woke doesn't understand what woke is I've been living in woke for over four years now and not not a single person who uses it as a talking point has a clue And the irony of this whole thing is that they're one of the primary reasons I support nick fauntez and the grippers is because they are going after the thing that I think is the biggest obstacle standing in the way of actually effectively fighting the left and and all the woke stuff And that's the conservative right And and so if if nick fauntez wants to burn down the conservative right Figuratively, of course, we we want to follow the nap and all that stuff but like like Yeah, I mean they're they're I mean they're basically doing a full frontal assault on all the conservative institutions that I absolutely hate They're doing a full assault on turning point. They're doing a full assault on the daily wire All of these conservative grifting shills that have just like taken people's money to not effectively fight the problem And so it's kind of like, you know, the enemy of my enemy is is my friend and and apart from that I think that um, I I just really enjoyed nick and I think that I don't agree with him on a lot of things But it's one of those things that it's like sometimes situations make strange bedfellows After october 7th when um when the world went crazy and all of a sudden these people who had been advocating for free speech for years Were suddenly calling for censorship of any ideas they didn't agree with especially like dave rubin Who literally became a millionaire talking about we should have just have productive conversations and their free speech and all that stuff He made his own platform for that very purpose Yeah, and then after october 7th He was calling around to people's jobs to try to get them fired if they didn't support israel And it's like it's all those things kind of added up and at that time I actually started tuning in specifically to nick because I thought he was going to be off the chain I really did I was like I want I want to see the the anti-semitism in action And it doesn't care. Well, yeah, and that's what I was hoping for but it just honestly wasn't there And it's like there are so few people that watch his full shows and actually listen to the whole context of what he's saying But I was doing that because I just wanted to do it And what I found was he was actually doing really nuanced commentary about what was going on in the middle east He wasn't being hateful. He wasn't calling for the eradication of the jews And um, and so I was like, oh my god. Nick Fuentes is actually the voice of reason And you got the daily wire over here That's doing everything they tend to smear and defame him and the daily wire is saying things about him That aren't even true when you actually look at what he said on his shows. Yeah now Nick Fuentes famous internet villain of how old is he like 23? 25 yeah, yeah, I don't watch his show like in any sort of regular manner because I'm a decent human being and I would never do that but um What so you say that the enemy of my enemy is my friend and your main enemy right now is conservative christians No, I wouldn't say conservative christians I would say the the conservative ink like grifting influencer sec who suck up all the money and all the resources on the conservative Right and then they do nothing but throw events that are big parties or like big pep rallies To kind of pat themselves on the back for throwing a pep rally That's basically what seepack is seepack is a giant pep rally turning point usa all their events are just giant pep rallies They're not doing anything productive to actually fight the left most of them don't even understand what the left is But tens of millions of dollars every year getting sunk into these organizations Just so they can spew talking points for video clips that they put on twitter where they earn more money and get more clout And it's like boots on the ground to activists that are actually working in this space We know how ineffective these people are and I think that um, I I think that there could be nothing more effectively done Then if turning point usa got burned to the ground the daily wire gets burned to the ground All these conservative media outlets get burned to the ground moms for liberty get burned to the ground figuratively of course I'm not talking literally figuratively And then we can maybe have a conversation about how do we actually build effective organizations at fighting back? Because all of the effective activists that I know in this space and again, I've been in it for a long time They hate all of these organizations. These organizations are hindrances They are not benefits And so if Nick wants to to do what he does to get these organizations to either change their tune or go away I'm completely in favor of that. Yeah Trashman says uh nick fauntez and chase have both have both being well-dressed gay men in common Oh, well, I don't actually think uh nick is gay but uh, but I didn't see that old stream where he went like on a date with The boy in the cat cat ears. Of course. Of course. I have that doesn't actually mean he's gay It doesn't mean that he's gay. I mean people think I'm a lesbian all the time dan and I promise you I'm I'm not I get that too I actually uh recently cut my hair and uh, I did so just in preparation for this episode So I got tired of people saying that every time you come on that we have the same haircut Um, and that I'm also I have hair now. I have hair now. Look at that. I wore it all out. Yeah, I grew it all up. Look like he's growing up Uh, jennifer hobbion says fake super chat. Angela literally is doing that with asanj via email and social media Well, congratulations jennifer asanj is already free. Why isn't she doing it with rasolbrick like like Yeah, angel is like dunking like way free to sanj. No, you didn't first of all like literally no You didn't and why if and you already moved on like all I hear about is rasolbrick rasol Where the fuck is the email about rasolbrick? Yeah Now asanj's wife did credit the libertarian party and having something to do with making noise and Getting this outcome, but um, so it's not completely for not but I don't know I I don't follow anybody's messaging all that closely quite frankly, but uh back to nik want is the man of the hour So this definitely not gay man. Um, I heard for years that he was like, don't look into him Don't look into him. He's evil and like my first inclination when I finally looked into him wasn't like Oh, he's making good points. It was like This is what you're scared of This is it like Well, 20 year old dude in his bedroom This is I mean, but that's actually a fair point that I keep making too This is like a 25 year old guy that's live streaming out of his mom's basement like like what are you? What are you? What are you what are you afraid of and it's like? I mean, it's so silly when you actually get around him and you get around the grippers because It's a group of guys that are hanging out that are and what I actually like and you might people might find this hard to believe But I mean, I I was a vip at his event a couple weeks ago And you know, I walk in there and it's a bunch of catholic virgins and suits and ties, right? But it actually does I swear to god it has a punk rock counterculture vibe what they're doing there They're there because being conservative does have that vibe in whoa, but they're not they're not but they're not conservatives though They're against everything conservatives stand for basically and it's like and and you go in there and they're they're the ones They're telling the inappropriate joke just to prove that you can tell the inappropriate joke They're the ones that are saying the things that that that that are that they're doing to be purposefully offensive because they believe in defending free speech And it's one of those things where like all the crazy ideas that you hear they have these are basically thought experiments They're just a bunch of guys sitting around doing political thought experiments because it's what they like to do But I know from the outside looking in it looks crazy because I used to think that too, but it's just it's not what people think it is They've said that you agree with Nick Fuentes on some things and disagree with him on other things. Where is that line for you? Um, I absolutely believe that we should be putting the interests of america ahead of the interests of israel I think that one of the things that's become blatantly clear to me since october 7th And I think clear to a lot of people is how bought and paid for our entire government is when it comes to israel and putting the interest of israel above Everyone else and i'm sorry like I don't believe in foreign aid for anyone and I don't make exceptions to that if it happens to be israel So, um, I absolutely agree with him on that. I find it disgusting that you know, there have like there There has never been one hearing in congress about critical race theory in schools Never been one hearing about gender ideology or social emotional learning or any of these other things That republicans have been complaining about going on in public schools for years and years and years There have been at least three hearings in the past several months about the scourge of anti-semitism on college campuses And it's all just a political game in order to shill for israel and get the funds from and get the the fund raising money from apac And so I absolutely agree with him on that issue Um, and again, like I also agree with him on the fecklessness of the conservative right and burning down all of the very well funded institutions That are just propped up again That all support israel and we can look at what happened in the daily wire with kansasans and see this very clearly like I was on the twitter space with jeremy boring where I got jeremy boring to flat out admit That he would fire anyone who was critical of israel. This is something we should be able to talk about america is not israel And we don't have any obligation to support them. Yeah, and does it extend at all into the What is your what are your thoughts on the claims that he's this anti-semitic racist that you know white supremacist wants to segregate the world I mean that sounds kind of like a woke talking point to me right like who who calls everyone anti-semitic and racist I mean, it's like the woke left calls is the one that calls everyone racist But i'll say again. I was at their event in person. I hung out with the grippers I was just talking to a jewish gripper like just like literally the other day Like there are there are jewish people that support nick vuentes because they don't want the interest of israel to be put ahead of the interest of america There are absolutely non-white grippers are a bunch of non-white grippers Because again, it's more about they want the interest of america to be put first And I think that um a lot like even I have I have someone in my community yasmine yasmine is a trans a trans woman Yasmine loves the grippers has been hanging out with the grippers the grippers actually treat her really well The grippers are right now putting her on all of their shows She's a trans woman and she's just bantering with them and playing with them and they love her I heard about it the other day in a twitter space And so it's like people have all these perceptions that this is a hate-filled group I've never heard nick talk about hating anyone. I've never heard the grippers talking about hating anyone What they talk about is putting american interest first Now these these Statements that you're making about I heard this about them and then I found out that they have trans people and jewish people First off, I got to say if you're having a hard time figuring out whether you're voting for trump or nick funtas then you ain't jewish but um with like it kind of reminds me of Few years ago in the mises caucus like everybody was like oh you're anti-trans or anti this uh point being um Is the pipeline real is the pipe is the next step from the mises caucus To being grippers and just saying fuck it all burn it down I don't think so. I mean maybe I mean maybe in some respects. I think it could be um, but uh, you know I mean the grippers have their own culture and I got to say like I I was I was I was hanging around them for for probably six months getting hazed pretty heavily before they finally decided that I was cool To accept me and I and i'm sure being a girl had a part of that, but um, you know I like so it is kind of like one of those things where it's not kind of quite as easy as they're they're they're they're They're apprehensive about new people. Let's just say that and I think they have a right to be because Honestly, like there've been so many people that have tried to infiltrate them in order to smear them or to smear nick or any Of those other things that it kind of makes sense that they would be wary of new people But again, the like what I would say to people is go and watch nick show Actually, just listen to his full show not the clips that are put on twitter in order to smear him Just go listen to him and you might not agree with everything he says and that's fine But you're going to be entertained because that kid is funny as hell And um and it's actually a really wholesome group and a really wholesome environment And they're just they're edgelords on twitter because they get attacked all the time and wouldn't you be if you were attacked all the time? Yeah, yeah, I saw a episode of fresh and fit podcast what that had nick fwentes on it where they had the whole after party round table or whatever and it's just like just a sea of of Black women and then nick fwentes were right in the middle and he said very little that even ruffled their feathers for the most part a lot of it was like, you know gender roles and stuff like that and They they eventually pushed him to drop one single and bomb and the the room erupted. It's like okay. That's it. That's That's what we're scared of Well, I mean and that's exactly what i'm saying like when I first started kind of like hanging out with the grippers One of the things I did is I did a stream on my channel where I said I asked them like send me all of nick's Most controversial clips and i'll watch them and react to them and I did that and I was kind of like He's just he's just joking. He's literally just joking. He's making he's again He's making the inappropriate joke to prove that he can make the inappropriate joke It's not these being hateful. He's not calling for the death of anyone. He's not doing any of that I'll tell you what too again when I was at I was in person at his event a couple weeks ago I was standing next to brice and gray and his wife for like a little bit of it And they were kind of like just standing by the bar and brice and was watching boxing on his phone instead of like actually paying attention to the event But there was a line of grippers that came up to brice and gray like brice and I love you I listen to your music all the time Patriot jay was there like he's he's a black and like they didn't have any They don't like patreon jay loves nick like they're they have no problem supporting him And nick loves them in return and the grippers love them in return And so this really isn't one of those things where like they hate anyone even like i'm a woman I'm a woman who's not a christian not a catholic I'm very much not like a trad wife or anything like that And they accept me and it's like they accept anyone that doesn't Wrongfully characterize them and it will actually listen to them even if you don't agree with them on everything Yeah Now some random guy in the chat says a promise from trump is worth infinitely more than one from chase And that is a fair point that even if trump isn't going to keep his promises He chase doesn't even have the ability to make promises because he's not going to be in any position of authority I mean fair enough, but if I mean everyone has to make their choices. I'm not gonna you know We all have choices. Yeah, no back to nick. Um, okay, uh, obviously the the main Issues with him are some of the statements on like, uh racial disparities and uh, uh, kind Keeping tribalism basically keeping People segregated because of their culture and their their background and stuff like that Uh, do you do you go down that road at all because and also how do you how does that play into uh jeremy cop and being an asshole? Because that's one of his major one of the major complaints about him I don't agree with that stuff. I really don't and I just try not to wait into it I think the conversations about race typically tend to attract the most toxic people on the internet Hence why they attract jeremy and um, and so it's not something Well, yeah, but but but you know, I mean fair fair enough But honestly like i've actually been involved in some of these like wedded sanitarian groups And there are there are groups that are far worse and when I say involved, I mean I did investigative journalism on them Um, but like you just wear the hood for for Exploratory Infiltrated their groups and just to see what they were doing and this was back in 2021 But I will say that there are there are much more toxic racist groups That are out there than the nick vuentas and the crippers And so it's like is this an issue nick cares about? Yeah, because he cares about white replacement and he doesn't want like they basically think that like white people Excuse me are going to go extinct. Um, due to demographic changes and all that and they they they don't want They don't want any immigration in the country So this is actually like this should actually align with some of the mises caucus stuff Like they're they're they're not only are they closed borders in terms of illegal immigration They want to cut off all immigration entirely and again. This is something I don't necessarily agree with them on But it's also not an issue that I feel like bickering with them on sure I get that so you showed up in the libertarian party because you were like there's no women here So, you know, I'll get some some clout and then you found out that some of these libertarians actually have wives And you're like all right grippers. It is they don't they definitely don't have women Well, I mean, I'm married and haven't married for a long time So I wasn't uh looking to bag a husband or anything But I didn't show up in the libertarian party for cloud and again I'm still in the liberal despite what any rumors my people. I'm like literally still in the libertarian party I literally never left. I just I'm not I'm technically not even in the libertarian party. So I'm more of a libertarian. I'm more of a real libertarian than you are, Dan And so it's like right like the entire libertarian apparatus in my state dissolved Like what I like and then that had nothing to do with me. Like what do people want me to do, right? Um, and the Illinois apparatus for the libertarian party I never hear anything from so it doesn't doesn't move me into action Yeah, and so I'm I've got my own thing that I'm doing. I don't need to play in libertarian politics I don't need to be in the infighting all day and quite frankly I'm a lot happier just kind of like observing it from this vantage point. Yeah Now you went to Nick Fuentes' AF pack and yeah, that was awesome Um Tell me a little bit about that and also tell me about the tpusa thing because I heard some stuff through the grapevine That it got canceled fraud blah blah blah and then uh, AF back and all that so so um So what happened is so Nick Fuentes was holding his af pack event in detroit I got invited to it as a VIP. So I really kind of like appreciated that Um, which basically just meant they were gonna you buy me a plated dinner apparently and I got to go to the event Um, but like at the last minute the event got canceled and the reason it got canceled is because this is what always happens With their events is is um as soon as people find out what the venue is they target the venue They call them. They say you're you're hosting these white supremacists all this stuff Now they there are a lot of lies going around saying that you know, Nick Fuentes defrauded the event venue and they didn't know who he was That's just patently untrue like according to nick before the the event before they even signed the contracts for the event Nick went to the event venue and said hi. I'm nick fuentes. I'm with the america first foundation We want to hold the event here even if he didn't they could have done a quick google search Even if he didn't say his name just saying af pack like they could have googled that and found out pretty quickly who it was for Well, I mean exactly and he said that the the woman at the event center a black woman actually gave him a big hug and all this stuff And they had signed all these contracts and they had set up the stage and the event actually looks so cool I'm so bummed they got canceled and then they canceled it 24 hours beforehand And it was supposed to have 2000 people there and they did a desperate search for like a new venue But it's in detroit on the weekend like where you're gonna find a venue like that And um, they just came up short and so they still did have the vip after party at this Um club downtown and it was an outdoor patio And so I ended up going again with like patriot j and bryson gray over to that And I just had like I mean the best time with the grippers like we are like all welcomed in and the grippers were awesome And everyone was just like everyone treated us well And we're just cracking jokes and just having a great old time and drinking beers and hanging out and all this stuff And then um some people get up to start doing speeches And you know some of the people they were they were really focusing heavily on the race stuff Which again, I don't like the race stuff. I don't like the speakers that they had but at one point The gripper started chanting Whites white white I was like, oh no And then and then these black security guards just come barreling through the crowd Telling everyone to get out of the way and the black security guards apparently just took over the venue And they cut the mics and they wouldn't let the speakers speak anymore And they just started cranking up the music just to try to get everyone out and then Um, sneako actually got in a fight with the security guard that was like They were one of the black security guards was like standing on the main stage He was calling the the few women that were there whores He was like flipping everyone off He was giving me one the finger and sneako like flipped his hat off his head And then the security guard I don't know if you saw the video The security guard and a superman punch where he jumps off the stage and punches sneako in the mouth And like broke three of his teeth or something like that And then the and then the event was over but you know the best part of it Dan was like So did they did they get canceled at that point just because of the champ? So what no, no, what happened is the security guards basically like like basically kicked us out all out of the venue But what happened was um after sneako got punched like so nick nick got up and did one final speech And he said well, we're getting kicked out of the venue again But we've had a great time and he did kind of like a little wrap-up speech And then I hadn't even seen him yet. I didn't even have a chance to talk to him at the event But they ushered nick out through the crowd like with a police escort to get him out of the building But the coolest part for me was he had he saw me like right before he left the building And he like broke away from his security expert like escort to come and give me a hug And then he was god like the flash and I was like, oh my god. No, it was great though. Hmm. Yeah, now With nick fountas similar to connio west people who speak out against a certain group of people and then everything gets shut down It's just like self-fulfilling prophecy stuff at some point I don't have any problem with any any individual of any group of any kind but just stop Proving the stereotype like if you think if you think Jews are in control of whatever they're they're in high places of power and they they You know, they have control over banks and whatnot all these definitely not true rumors that people say on the internet um shutting down connio west bank account shutting down nick fwent is it I don't know what the ethnicity was of people but like if you want to Not make these people a martyr wouldn't it make them make more sense for them to just say hate have your Your whites rally and then go on your merry way and we'll take the check Yeah, I mean that's kind of how I feel about it like I personally don't care if anyone is Jewish it makes no difference to me I don't care if anyone is white or black or gay or straight or trans or like it makes no difference to me at all But it's kind of like they are proving him correctly every single time they shut him down And I'll tell you what too It was actually kind of bizarre for me to see because after they shut down the event like everyone's standing outside on the sidewalk There were people who were actually taking pictures of all of the attendees just to try to dox them later for even being And if went to this event and so this is like I've been to a lot of political events I've never seen anything like this and again like I have to say these are these are young men that are just like They're really they're nice and chill and they're not hateful to anyone and and it's like you see I've seen them interacting with all the people of all the different categories that they're supposed to hate I've seen them interacting with me. They're supposed to hate women. They in fact didn't hate me at all They invited me back to their Airbnb afterwards to have beers and to continue to hang out And it was just a really fun night And so, you know, you see all these things online and you you you think that they're true because of all this clickbait porn But I would just encourage people again Like if you have questions about someone just like the people who all think I'm a horrible narcissist And all this stuff like actually go to the people actually watch their content actually Take the time to listen to them And you might be surprised to find out that they're usually just normal people who you might actually get along with and dare I say even might agree with sometimes Yikes now when you went back to the the Airbnb Was there a lot of gripping going on? There were definitely the grippers are very very flirty Um, they they aren't actually like, you know, people think the grippers are in cells A lot of them are really good looking like chief trumpster is like he's got like he's like one of the the top grippers on twitter If he's not getting any maybe it's because his name is chief trumpster Well, he's actually very good looking. He could he could I promise you he could get some if he wanted to I was I was completely I thought he was gonna look like his thumbnail on twitter. No, he doesn't he's really good looking Uh fat 262 says nick alienated the people who normally set up the events and write the contracts I don't actually think that's true because he hired a third party event planner as people are prone to do And they had worked with this venue over and over again No, what happened was people found out where the venue was they called and and they complained and they got him canceled And this is what happens and I'm sorry No one should cheer cancel culture Even if the people that you don't like are getting canceled If they can do it to nick want as they can do it to you too And they will do it and as someone who's had to experience not as much nonsense as he has but my fair share of nonsense Like you don't want it coming to you and so even if you even like this is what the acl You used to stand for right like defending the right of the most horrible people in the world to say the things They want to say because when you protect the most awful speech in the world That protects speech for everyone and I think that that should generally be our standard around speech So even if I disagree with nick on some things I want him to be able to talk and I want him to be able to express his ideas And I want the grippers to be able to do the same How about the people who are attacking online that we talked about at the beginning of the episode Who are wanting you to kill it to non-live yourself or whatever we're calling it on youtube I mean, I've I've had to get used to that that sort of thing I've had to get used to lies being told about me on the internet for years and years and years and again What I hope is that eventually people will do their own research and come and find out the truth for themselves And that's really all I can hope for I mean I personally think that like, you know gang stalking like what's been done to me And what's been done to a lot of other people is just abhorrent toxic behavior And ultimately they're going to pay the price for that with their own karma I mean the people the person that led this campaign against me specifically is doing nothing today He has no allies. He's create he has no views on his content And so he literally destroyed himself in his uh in his ambition to destroy me And my stuff is doing better than ever and so Didn't put me through two years of an absolute nightmare that I still feel the ramifications from every day Every time someone says I have a personality disorder I'm a narcissist or all these other horrible things like yeah, I mean and that sucks But at the same time I've been able to develop a community that that knows that all of that stuff is not true because they came and saw for themselves what it is Yeah now If you have more on Nick feel free to share but I do want to talk before we jump out here I do want to talk at least a bit about the debate tonight because this is This is the big one. Do you have anything else on Nick before we move on to that? No, go. No, go ahead. Cool. Now What are your predictions for this debate because we've got a lot of rules We've got a lot of regulations and everybody assumed that this was never going to happen And now we've got mics being muted and no audience and everything that Joe Biden could possibly ask for trump said fuck it let's do it it's on CNN by Jake Tapper, I believe and Definitely the odds not in trump's favor as far as the setup But we still have donald trump versus joe biden. What do you think the outcome will be of that? Well, I also heard that joe biden refused to do a drug test before the debate and Trump agreed to do it. So that that means that joe biden is going to be pumped up on some dementia drug So he'll be a good choice today Well, I mean exactly. I don't know what to expect tonight. I'm going to stream it I'm going to see if I question whether or not the regulations against streaming it are really that strong because I feel like they've said this Every single time there's been a debate. It's like there you can't stream it You're going to get in trouble and then I stream it and nothing happens And so we'll try it and I'm going to be streaming it on rumble as well And I rumble seems to be gearing up to protect that. So I guess we'll see Um, I don't know. I hope that trump uh, I hope that trump is bombastic trump from the days of your I hope that he gives Yeah, I mean, I want to see joe biden called trump a felon. I want to see trump respond to that This is all just theater for me at this point. I actually don't really care who wins. Um, so I don't know I mean, it's kind of been that way for me the whole time. I I would love to not have joe bidens, you know Inflation and all that but at the end of the day I don't believe that our say has any real bearing and what the outcome is and again I believe they whoever they are is uh trying to get me to vote for don't trump But I did want to share this because I thought mostly just because i thought it was fucking hilarious. Um, this is CNN letting everybody know exactly how the muting and unmuting of the microphones are going to work tonight If we go behind the podiums, you can see two green lights When they're on they signal to the candidate his microphone is on when the green lights are off They signal to the candidate his microphone is off green is Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off Interrupt a candidate whose microphone is on so i'm standing at one podium And i'll ask phil to come in and take the other podium And so let's say i'm answering a question my light is green and i'm speaking Phil's microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated He's going to interrupt me as i'm speaking and this is what it will sound like My volume remains constant while phil's interruption can unfortunately phil isn't talking nearly as loud as donald trump is is prone to do But hopefully that that works out. It's difficult to understand Now, let's try the opposite my microphone is now on victors microphone is off Wow, he's going to interrupt me my volume remains constant while victors interruption can be difficult to understand As soon as production team has shared this demonstration with the campaign this feels like it's from like 1970 or something and they're it's like the first time the mute button has been Invented and presented to uh the the general public. It's amazing. I mean this whole thing I don't know how people can watch how they're doing this and not understand that this is all theater Yeah, and it's all just like I mean and this I think is probably the real story of like, you know What I see happening this year, especially since october 7th is people are starting to wake up to the fact that this is all just fake It's fake on all sides. It doesn't matter Yeah, they even talk like they're from a different century like this is the place where they will be speaking tonight on the debate And when they do there will be two buttons one button is green green means go it's like Are we all fucking retarded like Yes, we are all retarded. Yes Yeah, it's amazing, but yeah, I enjoy that Um, because that's where we're at like not only do we have to mute the mics But we have to explain to the general public how muting mics works and what it will look and sound like Um, like I said, donald trump is going to speak a lot quite or a lot louder than phil Probably was doing there. How much do you foresee like is trump going to be on his Better behavior. I want trump to go back to 2016 not 2020 and Yeah, I agree with that. I think that trump should be on his absolute worst behavior If i'm honest, I mean one of the the beefs that nick wentes has with him is that the energy of 2016 is gone He's not the same trump anymore. He's not bombastic. He's not shocking. He's not saying anything interesting He's pandering to everyone. He's taking you know all this money from people to pander to to israel and like all this stuff And it's like, you know, I want old trump back and you know right now trump is giving me no reasons to support him because he's showing me He's just part of this establishment machine and we'll do anything that's required in order to be part of the establishment Machine just to prove something. So no, I want trump to be on his worst behavior Yeah, absolutely since especially since he agreed to All of joe biden's rules and one of the rules being that the mics have to be muted when you're not speaking I don't think it said anywhere in those rules that you can't shout over the mics of whether or not they're they're muted And we're talking uh for the audio listener. This is like 10 foot away maximum that donald trump's gonna be standing from joe biden What what's stopping donald trump from still just shouting his quips and I think he should i really hope he does He should just take over he should be like like push joe biden out of the way take over his microphone like do something interesting for the love of god Yeah, do you remember the the one against hillary clinton where he was like pacing like a cage tiger and like what stopping donald trump from just being like Waltzing over toward joe biden being like actually while i'm over here. I gotta let you know all the like This guy. I watched them shoot this guy up backstage. This guy's toast Um, yeah, I hope he gives us something to work with here Especially, you know for the laws if we're if we're if we're back here again doing this rerun at least make it better than last time I mean, this is all entertainment. It's theater. So I they so they need to bring it tonight like we aren't gonna get many of these come on Yeah, now i've heard from various sources that donald trump is either hitler point o or the antichrist And you know That they're you can make an argument for either one if you want, but for me personally Whether or not he is the antichrist or whether or not he's hitler reincarnated. I just wish we had a cooler antichrist That's it Like I mean if he's the guy like i'm just as disappointed as that in that as The the possibility that he's the best that we have for president right now Yeah, I mean I completely agree It's just like it's in in honestly like all these things. It's just so boring to me hearing everyone called literally hitler the antichrist anti-semitic races like all this stuff. It's like Like bro, like do people really think that anyone buys this stuff. Yeah anymore because it's just it's exhausting Absolutely now with nikfuentes has I I mean you pay closer attention to him than I do Has he endorsed anybody or is he endorsing anybody or is he basically nota at this point? He right now is saying that he and the grippers will not support donald trump unless donald trump commits to not going to war With the ran which I actually think is a really kind of like valid and legitimate position. Sure I'll take it just like if joe biden can get, you know julie nasonj out of jail and donald trump can get ross allbrick out of jail and nikfuentes can You know and prevent war in iran whoever wants to to have good points go for it Yeah, nikfuentes could very literally prevent us from going to war with a ran perhaps nikfuentes is actually the most anti-war presidential candidate at the moment and to now if you had the choice if the the choice was between for president With with all of their baggage and all of their beliefs and views and everything chase all of her or nikfuentes Who do you vote for nikfuentes nikfuentes not even close not even not even a hard decision nikfuentes most entertaining outcome Sure in that entertaining if that entertaining outcome is um The leader of the country pushing for segregation you still voting against chase He's not pushing for sacred. He doesn't he doesn't care like he like they're they're fully welcoming of like everyone like all the non-white people living in the country What they what they want is for white christian men to actually be in the positions of leadership and their and the reason they want that Is because they believe that those people are going to be less inclined to be beholden to israel And so it's like again I don't think that if nikfuentes came to power We would instantly start segregating the country. That's not the way they roll They just want wanted so that we're not beholden to israel and i'm actually really on board with that position. So sure Now you've expressed issue with um the evil right-wing conservatives and I just want to I don't know if perhaps you've seen this I hope that you haven't because it is fucking glorious and I want to just give you a little bit of PTSD here So, um, we're just gonna watch a little bit of this together. This is natasha. Oh, and it's the chosen one. Have you seen this? No, I have it, but I can only imagine. Oh god. Yeah, here we go I'm not saying here's something divine He gets in trouble bigly time after time He's controversial, but one thing is true Imperfect people a perfect god can use I'm standing with the chosen one I am the chosen He's all a human like you and me Just a chosen one Somebody had to do it Now once again to avoid a copyright strike here, I don't know I don't know if youtube is gonna ding me for this one But just so you know youtube I don't want any credit for the creation of this video. It's not mine. Don't want it Um keep the money Thoughts so far carlin Um, this is the most cringe thing that I've seen in a while. This is so bad Like I oh my god. The maga stuff is so cheesy. I can't even stand it It's sad because there was a point maybe it was maybe it was more of the alt-right maga days But there was a point where there was a lot more Edge to this whole donald trump thing in the early days. It was it was new and exciting and and Now it's just like all right boomers chill Just vote just shut up and vote. We don't care anymore I agree But as we all know there's no stopping what the lords begun and um It is what it is. God chose trump this very holy of holies man And uh, we're gonna watch a little more Is I like the I like the stock footage. Yes the stock footage of the lion and the stallions running in the field like Oh Did I hired you jan? Yeah And hired me to write a different song too. Just Just don't make this. Hang on. I have a question if nickle went does that hired you to make videos for him? Would you? I don't know if I'm allowed to say on the error, but um It would depend on the circumstances. I suppose just as like I offered my services to chase and mike turmont too Like i'll work with anybody as long as it's not outside of my own Personal moral bounds like if chase all of her asked me to make a video that was pro trans kids or whatever I I would be much less inclined to do so if nick phuent has asked me to make like I don't know Genocide video obviously no, but if it's just uh, hey stop support of israel. I'm not opposed cool All right We get it you worship a politician good job I mean the mega cult like all these cults that exist online of people just worshiping influencers and everything They say I find it to be like really disturbing to be honest. Yeah Now in all of this, what do you think the path is forward? What do you think is where is any sort of hope as far as the libertarian party or politics for what it matters or just in general? Um, I think hope lies in the grippers and nick phuentas being able to burn down the conservative establishment Honestly that is actually my choice. I don't think the libertarian party is going to do much of anything There's too much in fighting and it's like and again. I just think it's a real real shame I think that people in the libertarian party need to remove their heads from their asses and actually start focusing on real problems instead of Fighting each other and destroying each other and going for twitter cloud and podcast cloud and like all this stuff And I say that as someone who actually did have a fair amount of podcast cloud But when I when I had it like I realized how bogus it was and how much it didn't mean anything Right. And so I think that that I don't have a whole lot of hope in the libertarian party at all Um, sadly, I wish I was wrong, but you know, I I believe that the left is going to win I believe that we are on the descent into the marxis utopia I think we'll be there in like probably 15 years or so. There's a reason I believe that I laid it all out on my On my website. It's just like the the progression of all of all of their strategies They're going to culminate with I mean the literal revolution against the government That's going to happen at some point And I really do believe that the only thing that can prevent that is to burn down the the conservative right as it currently is Because they're not presenting any opposition So there actually does need to be a concerted opposition force And the only person that is in the position to do that right now is nick vuentes and the grippers And he's incredibly relevant. He is ratioing anyone on twitter He has this highly engaged group of people that are willing to just go to bat for him And that are articulating his message and getting more and more people on board with him every day So again, even if I don't agree with him on some things like we have one common enemy And if that common enemy can be disposed of we can bicker about the rest later. So far as i'm concerned What is the process for burning down the conservative right in your interview and what is the step the next step after that? I mean, I think they're doing it I think it's about creating like a subculture kind of like grassroots movement And that's exactly what nick is doing with with the grippers and with all the people that support him in america first And I think that you know, they're creating something that's cool that people want to be a part of that are actually saying interesting things Jack kacie in the chat. Jack kacie is a merge. Wait, what did this happen? He lives Jack kacie jack. I'm so worried about you getting eaten by a bear in the woods or something Yeah, he killed himself, but he came back. It's fine. Um, fake super chat from jack kacie. The lp ticket is flat Yeah, much like the earth. That's all right. That's that's that's all right. Yep. Now Yeah, so Is there a concern of nick fwent is doing? Damage to the republican party to the extent that the woke shit just takes over and it like obviously that would be pretty concerned No, I mean listen the woke the woke the republicans are pushing the woke shit Like the republicans are the ones that are allowing like I like I don't know how people don't understand this The republicans are the ones that are allowing the woke shit to perpetuate the reason the woke shit is still growing And it's still becoming more pervasive is because the republicans and the conservatives are allowing it to because they're not real opposition to it They're controlled opposition to it. This is why I keep saying it needs to be burned to the ground I actually think that nick fwent is in the grippers if they controlled the conservative establishment would do a better job at curbing all of the woke stuff Then the current establishment would and so again, I think it's one of those cases where people have to look at what's happening right in front of them There are narratives on both sides and um and right now, I mean like my community understands this and again We we spend all day watching leftist content leftists are not afraid of conservatives. They're not afraid of them at all They're more afraid of like the current democrat party Um, then they are republicans and so there needs to be a real opposition force And if everyone is just like in fighting all the time and just like again doing the stuff or clout online They're not actually solving real problems. Yep Agreed now shan van beaver hout says fake super chat. What is her largest points of disagreement with fwent is? Yeah, I mean, I think I covered this a little bit earlier. I don't like the race stuff. It's not something I like to focus on It's not something I like to talk about. I actually think it's very distracting Um to a lot of issues that I think are quite frankly Um more important So I don't agree with them on that but I also just don't feel the need to bicker with them Also, nick has said that you know, he wants a g-hot against like e-girls and I guess I think I've passed the test of being an e-girl at this point But like like, you know, they they don't want women to be involved in politics and obviously I don't agree with them on that But at the same time, it's kind of like they do involve women Um, as long as women aren't disrupting their movement and so it's one of those things where like they're allowed to have crazy ideas That I disagree with and you know what I found with them again And I was just in a twitter space with them the other day They will they manage disagreement better than anyone else that I've seen where they they allow people to come in and have ideas They just want to discuss those ideas and debate those ideas and you know, have conversation about them And at the end of the day, I've never had a conversation with a gripper where we actually just you know We're coming to it in good faith and had an open discussion of ideas where we walked away hating each other at the end of it Yeah And we've got fake super chat from bot who says just testing if this works. It does. Hey bot. Good job Uh orange cats says um, I'm conservative, but he's not the chosen one No, he's not the chosen one at all. Oh, I was looking for a sound effect there. Hold on. Let me get a shut up Silly woman. That's on me. That's that's your lord and savior. But yeah, he's not he's not the chosen one I I would I would tend to agree with that Anybody else get anything if not we are going to get out of here and let you all Get a house one. Hannah has one. Oh I see it. Thanks super chat from hannah for scene. Do you think the daily wire is actually taking a hit or will boomers keep it going strong? Um boomers are going to keep it going strong daily wire is a hundred I like what 250 dollar a year Like 250 million dollar a year organization. And so I mean I think they are taking a hit in terms of people Understanding what they're all about and that their first priority is to protect israel I think the stuff with candice leaving I think the twitter space that nik and I did and lauren chended with like the daily wire ceo jeremy boring Um showed that and I think that people are kind of waking up and seeing but there are still so many like boomer Conservatives that are completely unplugged from all of this stuff that they're going to still go there and believe that ben shapiro Is telling them the absolute truth and he really cares about them and all those stuff So they're going to keep going strong for a while But I think it's just about undercutting them as much as we can until more people start waking up Yeah, so would you push for would you personally push for the pipeline prophecy to be completed And the libertarian party to team up with the grippers to take over the republican party And turn it into the gripper movement to take down joe biden or is chase all of her still your guy Oh, I mean well chase all of her would be my guy separately because he is the candidate chosen by the party He played the game the best and I do want to see the libertarian presidential candidate do well Apart from like any personal bullshit that I might have and he's not hitler. He's not joe jorgensen He's actually just a guy that's out there doing his thing every single day And so I think that people should back off and I think that people should definitely stop mischaracterizing his positions in a malicious way just because they're sore losers because they lost and they need to accept that they lost And maybe try to learn from that experience and come back again next time Instead of going around crying on the internet about how they're all now trump voters when trump doesn't actually agree with them on half The things and trump wants to start a war in the middle east and all of a sudden all these anti-war people seem to be voting for The pro-war candidate and so you know, I think they all just need to take a seat and like relax and think about what they're doing Um, but I think that um, I don't know like I don't know. I don't know where I was going with that I had something else to say but it flew out of my head. So we'll stop there. I guess Stopping for losers on the internet Don't be a bitch. Stop it. Don't be a bitch. Dave smith Wow I said it wow Sorry just a moment of silence for the coward dave smith I do I do respect dave smith for saying hey, i'm gonna step aside or step back from politics because The politics thing is what uh gets brings the worst out in people go do your thing live your life and be your best self And uh, you know, don't don't become a politician because one thing I will say about chase Is he is a very very good politician And I don't say that in As a good thing as much as I do a bad thing I I think he's doing playing the game. Well, and I also don't respect the game. So, uh, I can hate the player all I want End dog says fixer per chat. I expected 90 all of her and 10 front is very glad it was the other way around Is it the other way around? I mean Listen, man. I again I would encourage everyone who thinks they understand who nick phoentas is to actually go and watch nick phoentas A show and you might disagree with him on a lot of stuff But nick phoentas is actually one of the only people out there that's saying anything interesting right now and um and he's entertaining his Hell and he's funny and you know, I mean, I like just go watch free Like I don't know why people take the word of clickbait artists on twitter over just going and watching the primary source content themselves Absolutely now we will wrap with this reagan han says fake super check go watch carlin show at five p.m Eastern standard time and I agree go check out carlin's you said you're covering the debate tonight Yeah, so i've actually got three different live streams planned between uh for tonight so at five p.m We're going to be watching a trans activism training that was part of the cuny Like lgbtq center and so we're going to be seeing what they're doing for that at seven thirty tonight I'm actually taking you inside a live trans activism training where I got their zoom information I'm infiltrating it. This is usually a supporter exclusive when I do spy stream type stuff But I've decided to make this one public and maybe we'll get caught and kicked out and maybe we won't But I will be showing you just a live training that that happens What they what they say when they think you're not listening at seven thirty and then we will be trying to stream the debate at nine p.m I don't know if i'm going to shut down on youtube, but I will be streaming it on rumble as well And so uh come over and I will show you what the left is doing Awesome sounds good and where can people find you? Where can people follow you and anything else you want to plug? Yeah, you can find me on youtube and rumble carland boressego I think my handle is dr carland b on youtube also on twitter and you can subscribe to my sub stack Which is carland k-a-r-l-y-n dot sub stack dot com if you want uh those types of updates from me as well Awesome carland. Thank you so much for being here. Everybody can find me at tsi d pod on twitter or The system is down dot tv on the interwebs or you can email me with all your hate mal Dan at tsi d pod com carland. Thank you again. Um, always a pleasure whether anybody expects it to be a pleasure I have yet to find you to be the the evil person that I've been told you are so Well, we'll keep you around for now and Let me know when you decide to be the asshole that they want you to be To all of you out there. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for hanging out. Uh, thanks for listening to this nonsense Please go watch the debate. Uh, I'll I'm not going to be streaming But I'll be tweeting along with my thoughts and just random fart jokes that come to mind But uh, yeah go watch history be made and donald trump if you're listening and I know you are Please, please don't let us down. Please don't give us the 2020 presidential debates again because Nobody cares Just just give us something funny. We've got nothing else here. Just give us something funny Question everything stand comfortable be bad have fun. We'll attack you guys next time. Bye [Music]
