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GUIDING LIGHT TRIBUTE SHOW w/ ELVERA ROUSSEL!

Our Guiding Light tribute show is getting underway as we have slated some guest stars to make an appearance for the show. Hosted by NaVell J. Lee with special guest co-host Elvera Roussel, fans will be able to tune and hear some of GL's former and current cast members share wonderful experiences of the show, as well as voice their own.

Among those that are slated/confirmed to attend are: Judi Evans (ex-Beth Raines 1983-1986), Denise Pence (ex-Katie Parker 1977-1985), and Krista Tesreau (Mindy Lewis). Also, Mimi Torchin will be making a special GL commentary on our live broadcast, and more names will be added to the roster very shortly.
Duration:
2h 11m
Broadcast on:
18 Aug 2009
Audio Format:
other

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But you can get the latest Buzz. And all your favorite children's stars. Buzzworthy! Start! Now! Hi, I'm Crystal Shabelle from Guiding Light, and you are watching the brilliant Buzzworthy Radio. Hi, everybody. Welcome to a new special edition of Buzzworthy Radio. I'm your host, Navell J. Lee. Coming to you live on this Tuesday, August 18, 2009. It's 1 p.m. Eastern time, 10 a.m. visit a coast time. We are going to be having a wonderful, fantastic show for you guys. I'm excited about it. I know you guys are excited about it. Who isn't excited about this? We are having a special Guiding Light tribute show, our 201 episode, our 201st episode. This is how we're celebrating this milestone. We're celebrating with another milestone. That 72 years of the scene CDS so classic, Guiding Light. Joined by wonderful guest stars today, and one of them being my special co-hosts for the day. She was here last week. She's here with us again this week. This is Vera Rusell. Hi again. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you? We're doing good. Thanks so much for coming out and doing this again and having fun with this show, man. I'm excited. I'm super excited. Very excited. Me too. Honestly, I never thought I would be doing something like this in my lifetime. I really never thought that at all. And it's just great that we're going to be having this golden opportunity to be talking to some favorites of the show and finding out what they're doing now and what it was like being on the Guiding Light. This is great. Well, the good thing also is that a lot of people couldn't make the show because they're all working and some people are calling from different sets. So it just shows that when you're on Dining Light, this is a great future and this is a great audience and I congratulate everybody. It's very exciting. Absolutely. So I do encourage you, fans. I do encourage you, fans, that are listening right now. A lot of people are right now starting to comment in the chat room as we speak. So they are making their way. I did open the chat room rather rather late. So they are starting to progress into the room right now. But I implore you, fans. You don't have to shy away from calls to the end of the show today. I know we got a packed house today, but you know what? You can also call in if you want to ask some of these guys a question that you like, that you want to know from them. So call into the show. It's 646-595-4228. Vera, call in on that line. You guys can call on that line too. This is for you. This is for all you guys that are fans of the show. I implore you guys. Call in. Dawn's going to be calling in. She'll be helping me out with the Switchboard today. So she will take the reins of the Switchboard and in the chat room. She is like my chat room moderator goddess. I'm enjoying that. I just want to tell you right now, before we bring on our first guest, and I'm telling you who our first guest is, you just have to wait and see. But I do want to say before we bring on our first guest, everybody's in the room. And you can offer your opinion on this. They're all saying that they love Gotty like so much. They're not sure if they can listen to this show without balling. Well, I think everybody's very satisfying. 72 years. I mean, we all grew up with it. It was always there. It's like losing multiple credit in the sense, isn't it? I mean, these are icons of television and families and care about and feel part of. And yeah, I think we're all very sad about it. And I think that we'll have to follow everybody to the new path. You know, they're new places. Do you think a lot of people will find a light elsewhere? I mean, I really don't want to say that. I really don't want to say that because I really don't want the light to end at all. But do you think that they will, most likely? Well, I mean, you have a news. I'm not privy to the powers that be at the moment. I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not on the show. I mean, I was not on the show recently. So I don't know what the plans are. I mean, I had heard in the past that we're planning on doing it online in some way, or they were looking for another network. I hope maybe that might still happen. One never knows. I mean, I don't know that it's totally gone. And the industry is changing as we speak. I mean, most shows are going on to cable now rather than on networks. There's been a great deal of talk about this. So I think that everything is changing so rapidly that one never knows what's going to happen next. So I say never say never, and keep the hope and the light in your eyes. And keep following all these wonderful actors and directors and writers and crew members to different shows. I mean, people, if they're good, they'll be working somewhere else, and you can catch them being good somewhere else. Right? Absolutely. Absolutely. So I have Dawn on our switchboard right now. She's here. She will be moderating everything. I want to introduce you to Dawn Griffin from Subtown USA. Dawn, we are on with Elvira. Say hello. Hi, you guys. Hi. How are you? Hi, Elvira. How are you? Great. Here I am. Great. Welcome. This is kind of fun. Yes, this will be fun. Should we go to our first fun guest? All right, everybody. Our first guest is with us right now. She didn't know we were on mute because I had muted her because she heard everybody talking. I was like, oh, no, they can't hear you yet until I am mute you. They cannot hear you yet. So she is now unmuted. I want to introduce you all to our first guest, Denise Pence, who played the role of Katie Parker on the show. Oh, my God. Hi, guys. How are you? Hi, Denise. Hello. Hi. Can you? We can hear you just fine if that's what you were about to ask. Because that's what it sounded like you were about to ask if we can hear you just fine. We can hear you just fine. Okay, good. I'm in an in-touch network radio booth and it's very air-conditioned and quiet in here. But I'm not really sure where you guys are. You can hear me, right? Yes. We have a delayed reaction on time here. Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But, yeah, we can hear you just fine. I think we can hear you on time, too. But I'm envious that you're around air-conditioning. I'm envious. You don't have that. It's impressive in New York today, so I like to hibernate in an air-conditioned area. In-touching networks is worth doing some radio shows right now. Okay. Yeah. Do you know in-touch? I do know in-touch. I actually got to talk to somebody who works for in-touch, so it was great. Yeah. We went to check the blinds. And I have a trivia box that I'm going to call myself Dakota Steve, which is where I'm at. He has been guiding lag fans ever hooked into in-touching networks. They'll pick up on Dakota D. My own little thing. Your own little thing. Yeah. So, let's talk about your former character on the guiding light. How are you introduced? Tell us a little about the character of Katie for those fans who do not know, and those fans that want to remember? Actually, I think Elgira and I had a kind of perfect storm with guiding light when it aired. When I came in, it was a half hour show, and it was building to the hour show. So, I think I was put under contact as an extra kind of help that was going to take me into, they didn't know where. But she eventually grew and was kind of weird because I was having such a great time. I mean, I got pregnant on the show a little, I mean, not in character, but I just, I remember lacking a lot during those early years on guiding light. I had a director, John Paxton, who kind of called the comedy in my character, and Alan Potter, the executive director of executive abuse this time, he was just, you know, he was so supportive and helpful to the whole cast, and we were like a little laboratory company doing the best we could do. And we hit number one. You hit number one. Yeah, we would, that was the first, I think guiding light was sort of ignored by the ending for a lot of years, and there was a lot of keeps behind the fact that we got number one under the Dobson's writing team and all of it. And I look back, I really think that it was because it's like a perfect storm, you know. We had some great records, we had a great company, we had great directors, and everybody did a job, and it just kind of filtered down to the public watching. And I was really proud of that time in our lives. Well, did you get to work with Joe Beth Williams? Yeah, Joe Beth was on the, so I had a certain, much shorter period of time. I figured she came in because of John Paxton directing. But I remember John just being the theater director that really loved working the rehearsal room, which I loved, and then he was going through a learning process with Cameron, so that was his whole reason for being in soap opera. He wanted to learn Cameron. And I think he went on to do Cal, out in California. Yeah, he went on to everybody, I wish, you know, as hard to keep in touch with everybody. Well, this morning, it's so weird. I hope you didn't see Twitter, which I've never done in my life. And I thought I'd wonder what this is all about. So I signed up for Twitter, and I immediately got all these hits, one from a casting director out in California. And I Twitter'd that I was going to be on the air today at 1PM now. God knows. If you got it, or I don't know, it's like, it's a weird world out there now. It really is. It really is. It really is. I want to know. I want to know, too. What was it like working with the Dostin? I mean, I heard so many great things about them. I really never got to watch a lot of their work. What was it like working with them on the show? I don't think I'm understanding that. Was that a question to me? Yes. Working with the Dostin's on the guiding light. What was that like working with the Dostin's on under their health? Dostin's. Yes. Well, I mean, comparatively speaking with Doug Marlin, who took over after the Dostin's from what I remember, the Dostin's were very sketchy in their outline. And therefore the writers had a lot of freedom. The daily writers had a lot of freedom to develop these really little mini... I mean, I felt it was a lot like faith. They were really well-written. Do you have a favorite storyline that you had done on the show that you just think to yourself from time to time? That was really good. I love that storyline. Do you have any of those kind of moments at all? No. I don't know. Did we lose her? Y'all can hear me. You can hear me just fine, right? I can hear you and I can hear Alvera, but I think we lost to me. I think we did. Let me try to get her back here, hold on one second. In the meantime, I just wanted to ask Denise what it was like being on the Big Bower family picnics, because that's when pretty much the whole cast was on stage with all the different storylines weaving in between crisis and joy and happiness and all the different things. I think that was the interesting way that we always weave together and always sort of put a cap on the ear and let everybody see everybody hold on. You know, I'm glad you mentioned about the Bower barbecue because it was a nice change to actually see them actually do a Bower barbecue this year because we really didn't have that for several years right now. I was wondering why it just seems like they wait until something like this happens in order for them to bring out all those stops. Why didn't we have the Bower barbecues every year? It's been a tradition on the show, has it not? Right. It was a great tradition. It just had them stop doing that and then it just seemed like then they were filtering out the Bower these last several years and now they're bringing them back onto the Canvas again. I have to tell you something, it's kind of funny. When I went back to visit the show after I left the show, I happened to show up in the studio to have lunch with somebody the day of the Bower barbecue and a couple of the cast members said to me here, come here, go sit down in the table and see if anybody knows what you're back on the show and we were thinking about it for about two minutes. I said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can't do that. Don't rock the boat. I'm gone. But it was so funny, you know, the Bower barbecue. I think that was when Melanie, who is now on this SCSI New York show, was her first day and I thought, what a beautiful woman. I thought, wow, what a great addition to the show and now she's a big primetime star. Another example of guiding life, you know, breeding the future. It still, it still bothers me. It didn't start hitting me until maybe about this month that guiding life is not going to be with us for quite some time. We only have like a month left with the show, exactly, a month now. We had exactly 30 days left with this show and now it's starting to dawn on me that we are going to be losing one of the greatest, one of the greatest soaps of all time. I mean, no matter what you say about it, no matter what has happened as far as writing machines and everything of this sort, guiding life has been a part of our lives for how many years, I mean, it's been on for 72 years and for those who've been watching for like a long time, you know, it's been a part of your lives. You're going to get upset. You're going to have those moments where you're going to be reliving every single moment of what you've seen on the screen, you know, that you're going to have those times. You're going to have those moments and, you know, a lot of the fans are right now saying that they don't think they can make it through this without crying and thinking about that stuff. Right. Have we got Denise back yet? No, I'm still trying to call it back. I'm all through. Well, let's get for a shout out in case she's listening to this. Denise, do call on 646-595-4228. If we can't get you, call us at 646-595-4228. And as well as the fans, anybody wants to call in, right? That's right. Right. Wow, you're doing very good, man. Yeah, Albert. You might have a new job here. I think we have a new John Driscoll Don, isn't that funny? Yeah. That's like our... That's our inside joke on this show because it's like, John Driscoll's been on this show for like six million times as it's been. Yeah. I love how. It just seems like he's like a better co-host than I am. Oh, that's great. That's wonderful. That is a shame. You know, I do want to ask Denise if we can get her back about the union work. She's been doing a lot of work with the unions and the acting unions, which have been having a lot of trouble and a lot of bad press. And I do want to mention this as a matter of fact. I mean, I walked on the... Working on that. Yeah, definitely working on that. Hopefully I can get her back here before we bring on our second guest today. I just want to mention that the actors' unions are getting a lot of bad reps and you know, claims to things that the writers' union went on a very quick strike. And all of us actors were marching with the writers and we actors did not go on a strike and we for a year did not have a contract and many things. So, you know, let's applaud the actors for not putting people out of work and for, you know, dealing with a lot of aggravation. It's just union is very important. And, you know, seeing the acting unions, I want to share some respect for them. I have a question. I do have a question for you before we bring on the next guest. I wanted to ask you, I know we asked this last week, and I know more people right now have, who have not probably heard this at the first time, let's find out from them this time. Have you watched Gunny Light in his current stage? The new model, the new production model and everything of the sort. Have you taken a look at it currently? Yes, I watched it this morning. I watched it yesterday. I've been trying to catch it when I'm not off filming something else. I try to catch the show. I'm not advanced. I don't have Tivo or any of that stuff. I'm actually... We'll have Tivo. I actually watched it at the time it airs. It's a funny thing. I think it's just a lot of great actors. And obviously because of production money being cut down, I had to go on stand in the middle of fields a lot rather than be on sound stages, which I think hurt the show a lot. Although, I did pioneer daytime location work with Gunny Light being all over the world as I mentioned low. I mean, Santa Riffy, Scary Islands, and St. Lucia, all these different places. So I think that added, but that was story driven and that gave us a great different story line. And Gunny Light had to do a lot of day to day outstanding in parking lot, which I don't think helped the exposure of the show. The show was a much more glamorous high production style show before, and I think that that was hard for the fans. Well, the thing about the taping outside, yeah, it's nice to get out of the studio, but then they're going to single camera, because I've seen them tape before. It's single camera. So the editing, when they first started doing it, it was really kind of choppy, and it almost made you see sick watching it. Well, I think that's because they did it handheld and they never put them on sticks. You know, the three holes that hold up the camera. It's been more use of sticks. I mean, I'm filming a documentary right now, and I tried very hard. It's because I'm the one doing all the camera and everything, and I have sound problems coming out of the ears. I tried very, very hard to get things on stick as much as possible and do a smooth movement. And with the brevity of time, they have, I mean, this is an hour show or two day. I mean, that's horrifically very hard. I take that out of the studio for camera settings, gives a lot of technical problems. So I must say, what they did, I mean, more power to them. You know, congratulations, you know, because it's hard. Yeah, very hard. Yeah, but it didn't prove over time, and it is nice to get outside, but they don't do all these splashy remotes that they used to do back when you were on the show, and they went to San Andomingo and some comfortable island. Well, they didn't have the money, I don't think. Yeah. Now, we have a new guest star coming on any moment, don't we? Yes, we do. Oh, my gosh, Dawn, I have to tell you, she's really good. How does she know that I already had him on the phone? That's so funny. Oh, I think you found your new line of work. Okay. Yeah, so we are joined by our second guest of our two hour block here, Mr. Michael Rolone, who is contributing editor to Soap and Death magazine. Are you doing, sir? Thank you for being here. I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me. Any time, any time. So I want to start off right off the bat and ask this question. It's a very generalized question, of course, but I really do so now. How long have you been doing this work in the magazine? How long have you been watching this soap? Got any light in particular, of course. This is about that. I've been a member of the Fourth Estate, as they call it, in journalism since late 1991. I've worked at most of the magazines before landing happily at Soap's in Depth. And I've watched Guiding Light probably going back to the Dobbs and Era back in the late, mid to late '70s. It's a show that I've never had to cover. I've never been assigned to cover the show, but it's one that I've always watched because I've wanted to. And hi, Michael. This is Elvira. Hey, Elvira. How are you? I'm good. So I understand, Michael, that you have been working very hard on an issue of CBS Soap's in Depth that's going to be a tribute issue to the Guiding Light. Yeah, we have an issue coming out in mid September. I believe it will be on sale on September 14th. And in it, there will be a section devoted to, you know, Guiding Light. We'll talk to current and past members. Oh, wonderful. Yeah, we really wanted to include, you know, to make it encompassing for the long-time viewer and the more recent viewer of Guiding Light because I think everyone's going to miss the show and I think this issue would be a nice key stick to have. Well, I'm going to buy 10 copies. It's just all you right now. OK. I'll mail you nine, so you only have to buy one, but thank you very much. Oh, can you do the same for me? Mail me nine and I'll buy one. That's so funny. No, no. It's possible for mine. I will buy 10 copies. No, this is a collector's item. Absolutely. I mean, it's history. It's amazing. You know what I think about? I'm sorry. I was going to say, I have to say, I'm very much commend you guys for doing this special tribute to Guiding Light in the magazine. As I was mentioning earlier about the announcement of when Guiding Light was cancelled, all we saw on another magazine, no name is mentioned, but you know what I'm talking about. All it said was Guiding Light cancelled. All we get on the cover is just a statement saying Guiding Light cancelled, but you get no pictures? Yeah, you know, it's, you know, if it were my call, I'd want to do like, like just a special whole separate issue only on Guiding Light. I mean, I think that this show is so beloved by so many people that, you know, people are going to be looking for closure come mid-September and even beyond if they're not already in terms of how they're going to say goodbye to the show. It's just going to be such a long. Well, I'm always, I always enjoy reading what you write and what they, their comments are. I think it's a great magazine and that's some great coverage and given the fans a lot of little inside stories, I think everybody's stories. I mean, it's much, it is so in depth. I mean, it does let you know who the people are and as well off the stage as well as on the stage. And since it's a great magazine, I'm glad you worked for them. And I know you, you, you work for a lot of other outlets and a quite a reporter and quite a great interviewer. And I think always what you write is very insightful and positive. I've never seen you write negative, which I really appreciate. And I'm sure everybody else who, who works with you. And I want to let Uvera continue on for a little bit longer. Oh, of course. Thank you. Do you know I'm building up your head now, is she? No, no. Uvera and I got to know each other when we met a few years ago and I did, I wanted to do, and my editors immediately said, of course, absolutely wanted to do a Keeping Track article on Uvera and I called it Finding Hope and it was great. And I always enjoy, I enjoyed reading the magazines before I came to work for them and I tried to bring to them what I think the readers out there would want and that's to learn things or even that just to have people say, oh yeah, they get it. They know what they know. I agree with that. I want, I'm glad I can read that in a magazine. I'm glad other people feel it as well. Excellent. Yes, true. That's absolutely true. Excellent. And so, and you're writing, you write for other magazines as well. So, I mean, I'm looking forward to you updating me when you can on where your new, and newspapers also, right? And Boston, you're writing to me. I do, I contribute to a column called the Inside Track for the Boston Herald and, you know, if a Red Sox fan moves out here west in California, believe me, the Herald would love to hear about it, especially if they're a celebrity. And do some mainstream reporting for America Online. I cover Dancing with the Stars for them. Okay. It's fun. I've got a fun job. Yeah, it's great. Wonderful. We actually got a caller on the line right now since we did tell our fans to call in. So, I believe we have a fan calling in right now. Area Code 862. I don't know where you're calling from. You're on the line with Buzzworthy and our guy like tribute show. It'll be our result, Michael Maloney. Don Griffin from Subtown USA, what's your name? 862, you're on the line. 862 is very shy. I was about to say that. All right. We'll be on the line, maybe. Maybe 862 is with Denise. Maybe they're both having lunch now. [laughter] That's so funny. But 862, you definitely want to get in on the conversation. We'll definitely bring you back on. Just hit one, the number one on your phone, and I will unmute you again. But Mr. Michael, I have to ask you this. I mean, this is a story line that everybody's talking about. We've got it right now. And a lot of people don't want to see this, and I want your take on this. Everybody is loving the Italian relationship. Yep. It's going on with this show right now. Why is it that many viewers are drawn into this couple? I'm one of them, but I want your creative take on it. I'm going to guess here, because of the potential controversial subject matter. They decided to do a slow reveal on this. They told the story very, very slowly and carefully. Perhaps more so than other stories that soaps in general tend to be telling at a faster pace these days. And I think in going for the slow burn, it's how they used to tell stories. And fans were able to get on board and go for the ride. I think the actresses involved are just both really compelling. And I think that it was a combination of the slowly unfolding of it. I mean, we got to see Olivia come to this realization herself as she was doing it. It wasn't rushed, and I think that's why people enjoyed it. I was on YouTube the other night, and the number of fan videos devoted to this couple, I haven't seen anything like it in a long time. It's been a great story, and I definitely hope Crystal is submitted next year for the Emmys. Well, if you saw the show today, Crystal went and had a little rendezvous with somebody else. Hmm. Hmm. That might have happened. Thank you. It's been in tomorrow. [laughter] Throw a little confusion into the air, ladies and gentlemen. Tune in tomorrow. Oh, yes. I know. Olivia. It's probably Josh. I think that is making people tune in tomorrow because... They're not putting a lot of labels on this storyline. They are just having Olivia questions, ask questions, and examine her feelings. I think that's what so characters used to do a lot more of, and it may be new territory, but it's old-fashioned storytelling. Absolutely. So, in other words, in layman's terms, like in a simple term, Olivia has issues. [laughter] She does, and she's not afraid to address what those issues are. It's fantastic to watch. Not to me? And do you think, and we're all speculating here. We all are speculating, hopefully, on its last day. Or in its last week, we see a reunion of Josh and Riva. You know, I am the Josh and Riva fan. First and foremost, do you think we might see? That on the last day? Who are you asking? That's for anybody who wants to answer it. My guess is that we would. It's so funny. We're offering privy to advanced things, working with the magazines. But this is one time, "Sguiding Light" is a show that I don't do a lot of work on. I don't want to know, I want to be surprised, but I would not be surprised at all to see that. I think when a show ends, and I've covered, unfortunately, a lot of them ending or witnessed a lot of them ending, they do a combination of reunions. For the most part, it's happy endings all around. There might be one or two characters left in some kind of dramatic limbo or they don't get a happy ending or they get a bittersweet ending. But I think for it not to be always, for Josh and Riva would be, I'd be surprised if they don't do that, but I don't know. Well, Michael, since we're going to have some other guests coming on later on, and if you're not busy, can you just drop down this number 64659548? Did you just read something down there that you weren't supposed to over? No, she was able to read that over the air. That's the number 6465954228. That's for you and any fans to call in and ask questions, but also if you're listening in, if you have a chance, once you go off air with us now, and if you have anything to contribute or ask, please call back in and take part again, okay? Am I being kicked out? What's going on? No, Michael, you're not being kicked out. No, no, I'm teasing. I'm just making sure that you have that so in case you can come back in later on with other people, and ask more questions. We'd like to hear your questions. I mean, of course, you're a journalist, as are we supposedly right now. We're interviewing, but don't think I won't, and I'll be a lot more lively than 862 was. Oh, yeah, that's good. Can I just mention just like flat out? I'm like, do you want a job as a co-host on a show? That's a great job. It's fun. It's fun talking to everybody, you know, and catching up. It's just great. I mean, it's sad, it's under such a sad circumstance of the show's going off the air. Yeah, yeah. And like that before, I'm pretty sure pretty much everybody on the show is going to be somewhere else. I mean, there's already been an announcement system. So what is the change? As a matter of fact, Michael, you might be able to tell us, what are the announcements that are coming out? I mean, have you noticed if people are going to other shows, are they announced? You know, the only one that I know, I think, is the one that everyone knows, and that is Crystal Chappelle returning to dates for her lives, and her role is Carly. And, you know, is anyone who goes on YouTube can see that that stuff she did back in '92, '23 was really compelling with Louise Dorelle and Michael Sabatino and other cast members. I mean, I think it was a real smart get for Days Were Alive to approach her or to hire her to reprise Carly. I think that was really smart. But a lot of the others, I have not heard, but I am hoping that even though the things are, you know, shrinking a little bit more than anyone would like and so that I really hope that a lot of them, you know, work sooner than later. Right. And a lot of people, I'm going to do that. Four more go-ahead and gliders are on a lot of different shows right now. And so these are the doors. And a whole bunch of them are all over the place. So there's the future. When they come down the red carpet, you know, I know, and I do ultimately ask them about their new role. But in many ways, you know, and I think I might speak for a lot of viewers, is that Jerry is always going to be Ross Marlar, no matter how many years he is. Absolutely. And I think I even said that to Cassie Depiva once. I said, "Gosh, you're always going to be Chelsea to me." They don't, for the most part, actors are really, they take that as it's intended. They don't take it as rejection of their new role. They take it as, that their old role is just so fondly remembered and embraced by viewers. But it's a good thing. I would have loved to know what Jerry's thoughts and opinions were about the show, how he feels about it. His first reaction to finding out about the cancellation. I mean, I would have loved for him to go back on the show on the last day. Make a cameo appearance to Blake, you know, for the Blake and Ross fans. You know, even if he wasn't alive, you know, he could have came back as a vision to her. You know, and for him to not being able to come over to the show for that whole purpose, it's beyond me. I mean, you have Jean Cooper and Christian LeBlanc making cameo appearances on the final episode, "Why I Couldn't Hate." Uh, Navell, the reason is because the ABC's contracts prohibit that. Yeah, I mean, I know that. I do, I do, and that could happen. I really do. But still, it's still guiding, like, is a staple. I'm like, couldn't there have been, couldn't have been the leeway for that. I mean, I'm very, you know what I mean? I mean, if they had found a way around it, they would have done it by now. But, I mean, it's pretty ironclad. They can't, and the fact that ABC owns their soaps has a lot to do with it, too. Yeah, they do own their soaps. I mean, if you think about it, like, it's very different to when Lauren Coslow made cameo on the bull in the beautiful, as her old character, while she was still on contact with these of her lives, but they're owned by the same company. No, actually, no, they're not acting about... No? What happened? No, the Bell Phillip is not connected to my knowledge to Sony, which owns days and why in our own parts of days and why in our... I'm not sure of the exact breakdown. But, you know, that was, I think, worked out because Ken Corday and Brad Bell were able to, you know, work out a deal where they get... Margot back for a few days, and days would get Stefano back for a few days because Joe Mascolo was appearing on days for our lives on contract. You know, could it have happened with Jerry? It would have been nice if either the Pope or Brian Trons would have given special dispensation in this case, but, you know, I think when you're crossing networks like that, it can be a very tricky thing. But, you know, I'm sure they could have worked in a rock flashback of some kind, and maybe they have. I'm going to be very interested in seeing the number of faces that are returning, and I'm really looking forward. I think they could have done more with more people back. That would have been nice for them. But, I am grateful that there will be a lot of familiar faces returning. Yes. Well, I can tell you, and I'll just say this in a general way, they all, they will do something with Ross and Blake. It's not going to be Jerry Verdon, but they will acknowledge that situation. Well, I think that's great, because closure is going to be very important. Viewers who've got it for decades are going to have an extra hour a day now. That's a lot, and I think that they're going to be looking just to have closure, like in any relationship. Do you think they're going to do any clips from the old shows on the last shows, or do you think they're going to just go out on the guiding lights present-time shows? That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question. It's a good question. I would love to see, you know, I haven't seen a lot of clips from the past. Ever since the new production model was implemented, sometimes they recreate. They recreate the flashbacks, like with Buzz and Jenna. I believe those were recreated. I couldn't tell. They were recreated. I thought maybe they didn't want the jarring production model to contrast each other that much, which you might have gotten in a flashback. But, yeah, no, it would be great to see some flashbacks. I think we are going to see a great tribute to guiding lights at the Emmys come August 30th, and when it that airs on the CW. Yes. And I think we'll all be seeing you on the red carpet, right, Michael? I will be there for soaps in depth, flagging down pretty much anyone who's willing to talk to me and asking people to wait while I finish up one interview and get to the next. Because, yeah, I mean, it will be a great opportunity to talk to some people and get their thoughts and get their plans for the future. Hopefully, by then, you know, people will be able to share a new role that they're going on, too, and have some news to share. Absolutely. I think that the perfect segue to announce what we're planning to do on the red carpet, shall we? Yeah, the perfect style. I think so. Well, this is what I was kind of hinting at on our last show, but I did not want to mention it until this program. I am going to be on the red carpet for Buzzray Radio.net, but we're also going to be doing a very special sort of a video version of this guided-night tribute show with Elvira alongside me, as well as Petrukent Darbo on the red carpet. So, we are going to be doing that, and hopefully, we can flag down some people as well to talk about their favorite moments on "Guinea Lights" from the current members, as well as past members of the show. So, that should be interesting. That should be interesting. Yeah. And we'll try to talk to you also, Michael, because we'll want to hear you online and see your face. Sounds great. And he's got some cute face, too. He does. He's got a cute face. Michael's adorable. I'm sorry, John. Very handsome. John, what did you say to that? Huh? John, I didn't hear you. What did you say? I said, "Your handsome." Oh, thank you, John. Actually, I heard you. I just wanted you to repeat it. Thank you. Michael is handsome. I had a feeling. Yes. Yes. All of us women think he's very handsome. So, okay, that's the fact. This is Elvira saying that, too. Go on. And if I go on, I mean, go on. [LAUGHTER] I'm not going to go on, but I will. [LAUGHTER] I have a met you, so I can't say anything. [LAUGHTER] See, John, it's important meeting you at the red carpet. Oh. No, it's like two weeks. Yeah, two weeks. It'll be here before you know it. I'm anxious. I'm anxious. It's going to be a busy weekend. It's also the weekend of the, excuse me, Bolden Beautiful and Young Wrestling Fan Club weekend. I'm going to those, too. So, I'm going to be very busy. It is. It's going to be very busy. And, you know, there'll be a lot of information to get out there, kind of all at once in the day of Twitter, Twitter, and the Internet. Did I see Twitter? Boy. Twitter. Twitter. Twitter. Twitter. We're tweeting on Twitter. Tweeting is next. That's our new, our new, we'll, we'll tweet to you. We'll tweet to you. [LAUGHTER] So, you have that number. We like to call back in on that number with us. Hang out. Lee, what's a good time to do that? You can do it. You can do it as soon as I disconnect you off this line. And you can call right back in on that one. I don't think I won't in a few minutes. Okay. So, again, it's 646-595-4228. And that's for Michael and anybody else who wants to call in and talk to us. Sounds great. Okay. All right. Great. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you. Have a good day, Michael. Thanks, John. Bye-bye, guys. Bye-bye. Michael Maloney, everybody, from, uh, Opened desk, Contributi editor. What do you guys think? What do you guys think about him, huh? I think he's darling. When I was in California covering the GH fan club weekend, he gave me a ride to an event that was offsite. And they say chauvinism is dead. No. He's a sweetheart, really. Yeah. And he always, he really does. He does write really interesting, insightful articles on people. And he's very, you know, positive. And, uh, it's excellent. Excellent. He's got good opinions. He really does know the business. Very well. Very well. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll have my handful when I go out to California in the two weeks, huh? That's what you guys call me. Never do you tell me. Okay. And so Tom USA will be out there, too. Who's phone is beating? Tom USA. Is it mine? I think it's his. Oh. But, uh, so Tom USA will be there. Okay. But you won't be there. I won't be there. But, so Tom USA will be there. Mm-hmm. So that'll be cool. Yes. Cover as much of gummy light aspect as you can. I will. And we'll be doing live Twitter updates. They'll be sending them to me and I'll be putting them on Twitter. I was asked if we were going to do our live. I said, "No, that's too much work." [laughter] I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that. I couldn't have all that equipment around me. I know. There was no way you were going to catch me doing this live. No way. I'll be getting a lot of text messages and I'll be posting updates on Twitter from the Emmys and from the Bold and the Beautiful and Young and the Restless Fan Club luncheons. So hopefully we'll see something good stuff and here are even better stuff. Now you, now you of error, you actually presented at the Emmys. What was it in 1983? I think so. It's 1983. It was the best writer Emmy. Christopher Bernal played Alan's following who originated the role. And I were presenting as a couple. And the beauty of it was that Doug was not one. So we got to present our own writer, the best writer Emmy, which was just thrilling. And it was very exciting. It was at the Wolf of Historia. And very glamorous. And very different from what it is today because back then we did the show and everybody went home. And today apparently there's parties all night afterwards. I'm like darn. [laughter] Darn, I missed all the fun. I mean, not that I'm a party girl, but boy, it would have been nice to go out and, you know, just chat with people after. But, you know, everybody just would go home to work the next day. You know, it was like, you know, you have to get up early the next morning. So very different. Very different times. Very exciting, though. Very exciting. Love Emmys. And I was on the tribute show a few years ago when they attributed Guiding White. I guess on the, I don't know, what anniversary. It was like five or six years ago. And then we were all up on the stage together. And it was interesting, you know, essentially Ruby Dee was there. And a lot of different people that you would not remember were on Guiding White once upon a time. You know, I mean, you know, Kevin Bacon didn't come that night. And he was on Guiding White with us here. And Denise said more of a storyline with him than I did. I don't even think I actually, it's possible I didn't even have one scene with him because, you know, how the shows go. People intertwine with the story lines they're involved with. But I think we were like, now our barbecue is like that together. But that's about it. And he did. Wait, and did I tell you the story? I don't know if I did last time that he actually came into the studio one day and said there's this movie you ought to do. I'm going to go audition for it. I said I can't get out because I'm five days a week. And it turned out to be the diner. Oh. White is interesting. White is interesting. Anyway, so are we, are we waiting for another when you have a exciting guest? Yes. We are. And she's actually with us right now. Okay. Our next guest is here. If you can hear me say hello. Or not. I'm like man, if you can hear me say hello and she didn't say hello. Are you with us? Are you with us now? Me? Yes. If you are with us, say hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. Who am I talking to? This is Elvira Rusell. Ooh. Is this the great Mimi Torsion? Ooh. Well, I don't know if it's the great Mimi Torsion, but it's Mimi. Hi, Elvira. Elvira. Sorry. Hi. I'm just doing fantastically. It's so great to hear your voice. I haven't seen you in so long. I know. I'm sorry. I've been away. I've been dealing with the necessities of parental care for many years. But I'm back now. Well, it's good to have-- You're saying a lot of me. Thank you. Great. Great. It's too bad that we're all together here for such a sad occasion, though. I know. We were just saying that. I mean, reunions are wonderful, but you know, you want to have a reunion for a happy thing, not for the death of something that we've all loved. You've been so much a part of. I mean, wow. Yeah. It's a very good memory for me. To me, it was my Golden Age of Television. I mean, five years on that show over a thousand hours in television, it was just amazing. That's pretty amazing. And any amount of time you spend on that, anybody spends on that show should be their Golden Age because it was, you know, the greatest. Greatest time. Yeah. Yeah. So what if I missed? You missed the one, you missed the wonderful time here before we tell you that I have to say that everybody's in the room is saying that you are the Twitter goddess. Oh, yes, she is. Yes, she is. I mean, I just got on to it. I've only been on, I think, for three weeks. I have, I think I hit it with thousands and thousands of hours. A thousand and two today was like, oh my God. And it's also taken over my life. I mean, I've been trying to pay bills now for three weeks. I just got done. I mean, I'm doing other things. Well, Mimi, yes, because you're a great editor and writer. What are you working on? Are you working on anything other than the Twittering right now? Well, you know, I've been writing about guiding life for Nelson Bronco's Columns Soap Guys that comes out on Mondays. He gave me a guest spot and I've been really loving it. And, you know, I'm doing photography now. I have a website, mimitorchandphotography.com and I'm selling photos. That's sort of the new me. That's fabulous. I've seen, they're amazing. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah. Mimi, what do you take photos of? Well, I, the website focuses as Martha's Vineyard in Manhattan. It's because, you know, I live on two islands and they're both completely different from each other. I'm not much of a traveler, although I did go to Mexico recently. And, I mean, I've been around the world, but not for a long time. So I take photos of what I see and that's my gorgeous island of Martha's Vineyard and my vibrant phenomenal island of Manhattan. Okay. I was wondering what I was. Where are you calling from now, Manhattan or Martha's Vineyard? No, no, I'm on the Vineyard. I'm here for five months. I'm here usually from the end of May to the middle of October and then I'm in New York for the rest of the time. Well, I'm going to have to come up and visit you. I've never been to Martha's Vineyard. Well, you're invited. Thank you. I will definitely get in touch. And I believe we have a mutual friend, the great PR Rep Wendy Morris. I'm sorry, who is that? Wendy Morris. Well, you know, I really, no, I don't think so. I don't think I know Wendy. Well, I guess maybe a friend of hers told me because Wendy is the one who told me about your terrific photographs on the website. Is that funny? Yeah, it is. Maybe she works with my friend Julie Nathanson. It's very possible. Julie's a well-known publisher. Is Wendy in LA? No, Wendy's in New York. Well, yeah, yeah. Very interesting how the circle goes, right? Well, you know, I used to have, I had an old boyfriend who always, he was British and he was very witty. And he always used to say that there are only 200 people in the world and the rest are just extras. Oh, God, that's so funny. Oh, my God. This is great. This is great. It's a separation, right? Yeah, exactly. And let's see now, Mimi, you hear one degree from Kevin Bacon. Wow. We're all only just a few degrees from Kevin Bacon and that is for sure. Exactly. Isn't that funny? And we're all connected by Kira. You know, everybody in the soap world is connected by Kira in some way to Kevin. Yeah. Right, right. Amazing. So what do you feel about the guiding light, the future of the people on the show or the writers? I'm not worried about the people on the show. They're all, you know, a lot of my favorites are already off to Venice, California, which I'm thrilled about. I think Crystal has been absolutely brilliant and I think that she has always been since she's been on the show. I guess what if it's 13 years, whatever it's been? She's been such a mainstay and she's taking interesting people with her. I don't ever worry about Kim. I think, you know, I think that they're such great actors. The show is just, it's a cauldron of brilliant acting and I think that they're going to do fine. I mean, as for the writers, I don't know because, you know, we're a shrinking business. We really are, yeah. We really are. I think people are going to have to look to other forms, other kinds of media. I think the internet is really, really, really going to be where it's at. I'm finding it to be, I mean, almost as distracting for me as television and I never ever in a million years would have thought I could say that because I'm a total TV addict. You know, no, I'm serious. I'll tell you the two of the number one in the front end, so we now are having a hot bed diva. No, I'm sorry, what did you say they were? Because I'm having a little blip coming through some of this conversation. I think that two of the new front end posts are drop dead diva and army wives. Oh, I love army wives. I mean, I love it. It's really old-fashioned soap opera and I like the actresses very much. I've known Kim since the day, you know, her days back as Jenny and I just think she's just matured into a beautiful, even more beautiful woman in a wonderful actress. I'm fascinated by army life because I grew up in Texas with an air force base. It was very prominent in our lives. I find it to be very, especially now with our men and women at war. It's interesting to see what happens at home. I don't know drop dead diva though. That's the one that Margaret Cho is on. I think that that is one of the essence that's a great part of the army wives show is that it is showing life back here in America. While the war is going on and how the war affects these people. And this is something that I really, I think they once soap is really cut on that present situation. And I think that it would be nice if other shows acknowledged what's going on outside of their small town. The bigger world picture today. I think that that's much more interesting to people who are so in touch with so much information all the time. You're talking about soaps, right? Yeah. I've always felt that way about soaps. Not to blow my own horn but just to explain what I think was one of the things that made soap opera weekly so different when we started it. It was always my goal to try to enlarge the world of soaps, to bring them to the real world, to try to engage them in a way that showed that they weren't just so narrow in scope. They could reach out. That was what I always did with my editorials. We tried to, you know, we did those photos about, I mean we had a voting issue for God's sakes. No, it was great too. It was very forward thinking. And I think that soaps have made a mistake by staying so narrow in their focus. I think part of it is because timeliness is fleeting. And I think that once you start something on a show, it's kind of hard to get out of it on a soap because of the way it goes. And then they're afraid that something will change and then they'll be, but I think that they needed to be more daring. I do think it was a mistake. I think that soap stayed too far in the past. And I think that's one of the problems. It's a very good point you make. A very good point, by the way. Yeah, I mean, I feel that we can take that point. So, like when she did make that point, that also begs the question of this. And just as Michael Maloney did, he was just a lion. And you of all people are like this huge advocate, again, myself, included about Olivia and Natalia on the show. Oh my God. Are you kidding? I mean, we talked about this in e-mails for how long now, dear? Well, it's been going on a year, exactly, practically. Yeah. And it began so brilliantly. And I was so proud of God in light. I said, "Boy, this is such a wonderful story to tell. It's such a true story. It happens to so many women. You're doing it with Olivia, who was like, you know, the man-eater of all time." And she, you know, it brought out such a beautiful soft side of her. Pardon? Yes, I agree. Yeah. And then to cop out, to cop out when they had nothing to lose is what really meant. I mean, I would have been mad if they had everything to lose. I still would have been angry. Because, you know, no pain, no gain, no chances, you don't progress. But the fact that they had nowhere, nothing to lose. So what if the few people got mad and stopped watching? There were thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people who were invested in that show and wanted to see it evolve in a realistic manner. Also, you know, I think that storylines like that show people that there are things to be compassionate about and love comes in many ways. Yeah, absolutely. And folks are so good at that. Yeah, I think that I think it's anything. I've always thought that the folks were like Charles Dickens and Jane Austen. They were teaching experiences for you to be entertained, but also to give you enlightenment as to what's going on in the world and what matters and what, you know, and make people think about what matters to them, you know, and how they would react to certain situations. I couldn't, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, go on. No, I was just going to say I couldn't agree with you more and it's something we've always talked about, the power of folks to educate. I mean, folks don't have that, you know, don't have that same function as they used to when people were far flung. They didn't get information at the drop of their, you know, a king on their phone. Right. But, you know, sometimes they were exposed to something that they only knew in one way that they didn't have any real information about. And then when they saw the people in their stories, they saw them have past mirrors and they saw them go through breath cancer and they saw them have, you know, gay friends, which I think all my children was pretty much in the fore of that. Michael the lady. And they saw how prejudice hurt, they saw interracial stories very early on, way before even primetime was doing them. I think that, and I know that people like Eden and Crystal too, people get letter saying, you know, this has opened the minds of my mother, of the people around me. It's made a huge difference in the way I see the world. I now understand my sister, my friend, my son, whatever. And it's a responsibility not to be taken lightly, but also to be able to use it, both as great storytelling fodder and as a way to enlightenment. Right, as you know, we're born the way we are and nature creates people the way nature will. And if we spend less time criticizing and shunning and making fun of and making trouble for, then we wouldn't be having all the problems we are in the world. If people would start to talk to each other a little more and be open and informative. I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, you know, I mean, we are in the 21st century people. Isn't it time, and we see our, you know, again with media being so much a part of our lives, we see every aspect of life. We know that there are people of all kinds that make up the world. This is not a surprise to us anymore. You know, many people are coming out, there are people, I mean, in all religions. There's no reason to be afraid. And I think fear is such, for some reason fear is one of the blinding forces in understanding. It's people. Of course, totally. No, exactly. Right, but there's no excuse for ignorance anymore. You know, unless you live in an igloo without Wi-Fi, there's no reason for you to be ignorant of the real world. Of the real ways of the world. And the heart. Yeah. I think you feel like I do that each life that our life touches should be better for us. We should always do good, you know. Well, in our own small ways, I mean, I was just talking to a very close friend of mine and saying that I wish that I had, I wish there were ways that I had been better. And I still can be. I wish I was more into the volunteering kind of a thing. I wish that there was more good that I had done in the world so far. But, you know, there's still time. I'm not dead yet. But you know something, Mimi, everybody feels that. And you know what I say to that? If you can do one thing for one person when you can, one good thing for one person who's in need in any way. If we just touch, if we just let every life that we touch be better for it. If you just reach out where you can, take care of the people you can, take care of. And if everybody was doing that for everybody else, then everybody would be doing the best thing. Because there's that expression you saved one person, saved the world. Yes. Well, I think it's a beautiful way to look at things. And in that case, we could all feel a little bit better about ourselves, I think. Because I think most of us, certainly the people I know, you know, do try to take care of each other and love each other. I do. I'm feeling very, I'm feeling very in love with the world, not the world, but with the people in my world and around it that touch it. There's a lot in the world that makes me unhappy. But I mean close by, you know, and it's interesting, that's kind of an interesting thing about Twitter. It's a very loving community. I think that's part of it's allure. And that's early in town. I'm sorry, let me just ask this question. And how is that love that you're feeling in this world of Twitter? How can that be used on daytime television? I don't know. I don't know if it's an interesting thought. I mean, do you mean as a, I'm not quite exactly sure what you mean by that. Like getting the word out about daytime soaps? Well, certainly. I mean, we know that it's certainly doing that with Otalia and with Venice. But I mean as a, I mean as a, some sort of a catalyst. So, I mean, just sort of like, as we're talking about, you know, as you go through life, you keep trying to do something to somebody else. You keep trying to do more to help other people. And on the soap operas, I'm not seeing that much. So, I mean, maybe I'm missing something. I don't get to watch everything. Obviously, I've got to work also. Now, they're a dark place though. Soaps are a very dark place. Yeah, so what, so where do we see the positive? Where do we see people reaching out to help people? Where do we see, that's what I think we'll bring the audience back. I think the audience wants to see something positive and inspiring. Well, I do too, and you know, it's interesting that in some ways, and this always happens with the soap after it's been canceled, you know, it always, you know, guiding life has been doing that. Guiding life in the last, you know, several months is very much about selflessness. Even if it involves killing people, it's very much about selflessness. And that, you know, Diana and Jeffrey and Josh and even Olivia. And I think that really the show is doing something that it used to do, that it lost in the middle of years when everybody wanted to have action. And, I mean, I can't even watch General Hospital anymore. I just, I don't watch half the shows anymore, but I don't watch all my children. I don't, they're just, they're just not happy places to be, and I'm sort of not, and even though I do love dark stories, I have to tell you, I'm very drawn to drama and melancholy. And, you know, I miss ER like mad and Battlestar, Galactica and Nurse Jackie, you know, mad men, which is the most depressing show I've ever seen, but that absolutely rocks my world. But I think daytime should do more than it does, because it's there with us every single day in a different kind of a more pervasive way. And I think that that's a great positive statement from you. And I think that we have another guiding like person on the line. We will, and just, we will in just a minute, Mimi. Okay, then, and then I'm going to move on. Am I going to be then off, off segwaying off to, to paying my bills again? Just tell me how it's going, and I'm happy to do it. You are going to be calling back in at this number. Okay, well, hold on just a second. Let me write it on the back of my home insurance bill. Yeah. So we'll be paying after the show is over. Yes, exactly. I'm ready. 646. 646. 595. 595. 4228. 4228. And just call back in and I think press one right in the bell. Press one, yes, press one. And we're going to be segwaying to another guiding light person that we were sure made, you might have a question for also. When should I make this call back? As soon as you hang up the phone. I get any simpler than that. Well, you don't know me. 646. 595. 4228, right? Yeah. Right, because I'm numerically dyslexic. Press one. And all those fans out there, and all those fans out there, keep those phone calls coming in, and those questions coming in, and back to you in the bell. Okay, thanks. So long. I'll be back in a minute. And I will be back with our next guest, who I'm not going to tell you that. But I want you, while I'm getting the next guest from the folks, there was something I did want to do on the last show, but I decided to hold off on this to this show. I want you, that's over here. Tell them about this letter that you got. About guiding like a certain, from a certain, certain somebody. Oh, well, when we were on guiding light, you know, it was a foreign network world, and lots of people would watch us, and once in a while, we'd hear about people watching us to get a note and be so surprised. And I don't know why we were. I mean, you know, we were great. So one day I was reading TV Guide, and TV Guide was talking, did an article on celebrities, well-known people, and what stuff offers they happen to watch. And amongst the people that watched our show was Fred Astaire and Betty Davis. And I was like, wow, Fred Astaire and Betty Davis are watching us. Wow, I mean, I just couldn't get over that. So I found out what Betty Davis's agent was, and I wrote a letter, and it was a letter that we gave us, and I said, please, you know, we're so thrilled. My goodness, you're so amazingly thrilled that you watch our show, and it's forever in town. Please, thank you for the lunch meeting. Would you like to come visit the studio? We would all be just amazed to meet you. And she felt me back, and she said how great it was on the show, and that she would definitely come and visit if she had time. But I think at that point she wasn't traveling that much, so she never did come to visit the show. But I thought, my God, this is my Academy Award. I mean, my Lord, and a letter from Betty Davis, but she watches me and enjoys my work. I couldn't think of higher praise, because we know the battles that she fought to create when she was a young actress and to her life. And so on. She was definitely an advocate for good scraps, and she made her voice known. She wouldn't play garbage. She wanted good quality writing, even back then. Right. And so she was watching during the dust, and Doug with Marlon, those were the years I was on. And so that's a tribute to them as well, isn't it? Because she respected their storylines, which is great. Yeah. So, yeah. So we are back. I am back with Mimi. She called back into the line. She's here. I'm here. Okay. I'm everywhere. Here, there, and everywhere. Mimi, it's been about 20 minutes since you've twittered. How are you doing? Well, you know, I'm paying those bills. I've been paying for about five days, or six days, or maybe it's been a week. I am kind of shaky. Navell, have we gotten our new young guest online yet? Navell? Who's here? Can we have a roll call again? Okay. This is Elgira. Right. And I've gone on some town USA. Okay. And Navell, I guess Navell is trying to get our next guest online right now. And maybe I may introduce her. She's somebody who happens to be going to be on the last few shows of The Dining Life, came back recently to recreate her character. And I've worked, had the pleasure of working with her when I was on Dining Life. She's charming, wonderful, and exciting. And then I think I know who you're talking about. Pardon me? I said, "I think I know who you're talking about." You do. Okay. Well, wait for Navell to bring her on. Are you there, Navell? I guess he's still not. You know, I just want to say that I'm watching -- I've got the TV on while I'm talking to you all. And I've had CBS on and that they have done nothing but promo Natalia's return. So if they feel so damn strongly about it, if they know that Natalia is their money couple, you know, why did they do what they did to them, where they had them? Why then had a great story and then run from it because you're scared of the controversy? Especially when you've been canceled. Well, you know, let's have some follow-through on that serve. Well, I think that they're dealing with it now. I think if you watch today's show, they were dealing with it very upfront. Oh, I'm sure they are. And I'm looking forward to it. I like to watch "Guiding Light" later on when I have no other distractions. But I'm just talking about all the time they wasted, you know -- Wasn't the young actress actually pregnant in real life off having maternity leave? Yes, yes. It's not even the pregnancy I'm talking about. I'm talking about the lack of intimacy that they forced upon them for months and months and months and months. Actually, the pregnancy story, other than that, wouldn't have been so terrible, although it enraged me at the time. Because it's a time-honored soap opera plot, the unexpected pregnancy from a one-night stand. Oh, okay, you're back. I'm back now. Am I back now? Can you hear me? Am I good? Yeah. I am here now. It's so good, Navell. Am I back with -- am I back with my wonderful lady person? Which one? Which one? You're all ladies. Am I back with Krista? Fabulous. My back with Krista? Yes. No, am I back with Krista? Please, hello. Hello. There, we're here now. We heard her now. We heard her say hello. You know what I'm going to do? This is me, Navell. I'm going to leave you all, because I think that I'm one voice too many here. Krista, it's so wonderful to hear your voice. It's so wonderful to see your beautiful face on television again. Thank you. It's just, you know, you light up the screen. So I'm going to say goodbye to everybody and let them have you all to themselves, all right? Oh. Amy, are you getting about to be in Los Angeles? Well, I don't know. Maybe. We'll see. But, you know, we'll find some time to catch up. I'd love to talk to you, okay? Hey, Eric. Likewise. Okay, darling. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. So, Krista, hi. Hi. It's Adira. How are you? How are you, Adira? Good. Are you getting over your cold? I understand you have a little cold. I do. And it is better today, so. Yeah. All right. And you were able to function and do this for us today, even though you were sick. Oh, that's okay. Oh, believe me. I've been up since 5.30 non-stop. Wow. Had already a couple of appointments, a huge shopping spree at the grocery store with two little babies, and my husband is in bed today. Oh. And, uh, made him a little breast in bed. Tell the audience about your two little babies, because... Oh, they're adorable. I have a little four-year-old Michael, and actually Michael was on television last night. He made, um, I'd say a big debut, but his debut really is going to be coming. Um, he was an extra on "Guiding Light" in the last episode. And, uh... Wonderful. And last night, we went to a Dodger Cardinal baseball game, and, uh, we sat in the front row, and as the woman was singing "God Bless America," they gave my little guy the best close-up. They called it an ECU extreme close-up. Yeah. I was telling ya, it was probably ten seconds, and my husband was home in bed, and he called and said, "You won't believe it!" And, uh, and then I have a little girl, and she's 22 months old, and her name is Julia. Okay. I don't know. And they're adorable. They're so cute. Yeah. Yeah. No? So I have to tell you, um, about the character Mindy Lewis. Again, I wasn't even born yet when you were introduced, but I've done a lot of old-school watching, you guys, because thanks to the world of YouTube, I was able to see the Four Musketeers, the original Four Musketeers in action, and I love the Four Musketeers. Aw. Thank you. What was it like doing all that stuff between the four of you guys, Philip, Mindy, Rick, Beth, all of that stuff. All of that stuff had to be exciting. I know you did, like, stuff in New York for some time. Yeah. I think I laughed my way through it all, because even when they said cut, these guys were still making me laugh, and, uh, it was incredible. I think you just can't manufacture that chemistry, the camaraderie that we had. And, you know, combined with great writing, a great storyline, everything came together at that time for us, and it was a really, really special time. It really was. Mm-hmm. And I do have, uh, someone else, uh, he called back in, um, Beth Mal. Uh, we've, he, he was here earlier. He's back again, at least. He would like to talk to you. Mr. Michael Maloney, contributing editors, coach and death, has called back in. Hey, Nevel, this is what you get for giving me the phone number. You know, Vera Bowes, but thank you. More, more of Vera than me. That is true, and I have to say that, you know, sometimes when you go to hang up the phone and it, it doesn't disconnect, well, that, that happened. So I heard you guys talking about me, and I was like, wow, they are, they must know I'm listening because they were saying such nice stuff. Yeah. We didn't know anything of the kind. No, no, I'm teasing. Yeah, they did. Very dry wood. It is. Hopefully. We were just speaking the truth. Can you chat soon and Chris, it's nice to hear your voice. Same here. Michael, I apologize. I've owed you a phone call. And we just got back in town from being on vacation for the past week. But still, I, I promise, I so want to connect with you. When, when this is over. And the next time I see you, I'm bringing you a switcher. Switcher. The Swipper, the Duster. The Duster, she did the commercials for them and I, I thought that, I honest to God, that's when I started trying them out and I just become a queen freak ever since. They're pretty darn good. They work. Yeah. That's funny. I'm practicing gamble affected me on many levels. Yeah. No. I said I'd call back in and it was great hearing those stories that, you know, you can, you can see more and more of this on YouTube. I have no knowledge of the legalities of it all. But, um, it is wonderful to have a, a platform as they say to, um, to see some of this stuff. I wish, uh, P&G would put it out compilations out on DVD. Yeah. I'm like, hi. Yeah. It would sell. Could not be interesting. Yeah. I mean, really 72 years on DVD. I don't know. I would just categorize that. You know what? Okay. I just saw a compilation or no, no, not even compilation, a patent place at Barnes and Noble. They had DVDs a bit. I was flipping through alphabetically, probably looking something in there. It popped up and I thought, you know what? I bet these will sell. Uh huh. But, you know, something else that brings up a point also with all of these things on the Internet and all of these, uh, cable channels. Why don't they just do an entire guiding light from the beginning on a cable channel? Wouldn't that be fascinating to watch how life and history and people change and all the big stars are on the show? I mean, there's so many, you know, so many interesting actors who I'm guiding life through the years to start all the way back. Wow. Uh huh. That would be interesting. Yeah. That would be great. I think the emotions would be timeless and the commercials would be hilarious to go back. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Uh huh. I don't know. Should I even admit that I watched it all live? [laughs] Whatever. I think it just did. I think it just did. I watched all of it all live. I watched Crystal live. Wow. I think we broke it all up. Wait a minute. I don't think it was on our dial. I don't think I was on our dial. I don't think it was on live when I was on. I think we were already on tape. Well, I mean, I watched it when it first aired. I don't watch it on YouTube. I actually watched it. Yeah. When it aired. Right. Right. Right. Crystal, I have a question for you. Yes. This is Dawn from Southtown USA. I just wanted to know if you remember to call Lock Wallace. Mmm. I'm making the note. Oh. I can't. Now, I mean, I hate to come up with excuses and I love lock the pieces and I just made another note. I'm in the midst of putting together what was going to be a reunion now has turned into an event. Really? Yeah. I'm putting together this reunion of a lot of past cast members and current cast members and some of the production and we already are at about a hundred attendees. And it's been occupying a little bit of my time to say the least. And Lock is certainly on that list and he was one of, or is such a wonderful person and was one of the best stage managers we ever had. He was a guiding light for probably 30, 40 years. And... So calm. So calm, doesn't he? Oh, yes. And the nicest position. Sorry, go on, go on. And just a truly wonderful person and made coming to work such a pleasure. So... Did any kind of... Didn't Lock pop in on camera during some of the big group party scenes? Was that an easy way for him to kind of be in the mix and not be afraid of, you know, being seen on camera because he could just mingle right in sometime? Exactly. And he would turn his back to the camera because a lot of times a lot of extras would not... They were afraid to kind of speak up in the background. You know, but the stage manager kept saying we need the hubbub, as he would say, the hubbub, we need the, you know, and they wouldn't do it loud enough. So he would just walk out there and just literally go hubbing on hubbing on hubbing on hubbing on hubbing on hubbing. And just make that noise in the background. And then he threw our watermelon cantaloupe over and over and over again. Yes. He threw our watermelon cantaloupe. Yes. His own facts about daytime TV is brought to you. Yes. Brought to us by Swipper. We have a question from our chat room. ACC 2008 wants to know, are you still friends with Judy Evans? The original best, right? I'm Michelle. Thank you. Am I? Yes, I am. In fact, I have some little note from her, I believe, regarding the party, my party, but she's such a wonderful, very compassionate person, Judy is. And I wanted to get together with her on the west coast, and of course, she just went back east to do, as the world turns, for a while. And I'm really happy for her. And yeah, she, she came to my wedding. Oh, wonderful. Yeah. And great girl. Very, very sweet. And yes. What are your favorite memories from the show? What are some of mine? Oh, boy. I have memories off camera as much as I have on camera. And too bad somebody wasn't walking around with a little camera behind the scenes years ago. Yeah. Oh, well, of course, all of that New York sequence, you know, when we were on location. I would say the wedding, Mindy had a wedding. Both are first and second wedding. The first one being to Phillips Balding, where it was a gunshot wedding, or a shotgun wedding. And Phillips so didn't want to marry Mindy, but, you know, he was in love with Beth at the time. So as we're standing there with the priest, and he said, "Do you, Mindy, take Phillip?" You know, and I, Mindy says, "I do." And he says, "And do you, Phillip, take Mindy." There's this long pause. And Phillip looks over to shoulder to Mindy's granddaddy, H.B. Lewis, where H.B. is standing with a rifle. And then he's looking at Billy, your daddy. And Billy just tilts his head down like, "Yes," you will say, "Yes." And he comes back, and in this little mild voice, Phillip says, "Yes." Oh, and by the way, at the same time, Mindy is squeezing his arm. Okay. Now, let me ask you this question, this for the fans to look forward to. I understand that you are going to be on the final shows for "Guiding Life." Yes, and I can tell you, I can, in general, not specific, but there's going to be a surprise. It's going to be a nice surprise. And so, and it'll happen on the last episode, and I think the audience will be pleasantly surprised. I hope. Very general consensus. I like it, though. It will not be disappointing. I'll put it that way. And when exactly is the last show? Do you remember the last ear date? I believe it's going to be September the 18th. It's a Friday. Friday, ending the week, and there'll be no cliffhanger, but a great ending, right? Yeah. The cliffhanger will be gone, I guess, at that point. We were discussing earlier about the possibility of having "Guiding Life" come back in the future. Well, I think there's definitely a possibility. You know, if it's not happening in the near future with our cable choices, I think with all of the development, with technology, where, by incorporating your computer with your television, I think it's only going to have more opportunities and possibilities. So, I think there might be something to that. Very interesting. And would you be interested in taking part to the continuous? Of course I would, yes. Yeah, that's great. I would. Now, do you know any inside buzz about having to be able to talk about "Guiding Life" tasks going to any other new shows? Oh, I think a couple of actors are going elsewhere. You know, it sounds like I'm talking about baseball players, you know, when contracts are up or they're free agents now. And I know one or two are going on days of our lives. I know one looks like maybe going to one life to live. Not 100% confirmed. You know, and then I know a lot of actors, they're doing some stage acting. So, I've been hearing a whole variety of different venues where actors are going to be. Yes, by the way, is Robert Newman in a show on Broadway right now? Yes, he is, and I just saw him in it a couple of weeks ago. It's called "Sessions" and it's a musical, and he was fantastic. I have never heard, in all the years I've known Robert Newman, which I hate to date myself, it's going back to the early 80s, I've never heard him sing. And he has a beautiful voice, just beautiful, and I was blown away, and I just loved all the music in this musical. So, I really hope it stays around. Well, I'm going to try to see it as soon as possible, because I just found out about this, and this is great. Very exciting. Yeah, very exciting. And what about you, Alvera? What about me? I'll be seeing you next week on the red carpet, hopefully, at the ME. Yes, indeed, you will. And I'll be out there filming for my documentary and bring you up to date on all that. I'm very excited, yeah, I'm very excited about that. Lots of things are, I mean, I'm just coming back to the industry as, you know, especially the daytime world, so hopefully I'll be out. And I'm looking for an agent, should anybody want to be my agent, I am now available again. So, let's just put that block right in. I put the word out. Put the word out, exactly. Yeah, so I'm just coming back. So, this is all about exciting, and I'm going to get to meet your babies, right? Well, yes, you will, but I know the audience, they've missed you, and they would like to see you back on the screen. Oh, you're very sweet. Yeah, no, they would. All right. I know, I would. All right. So, thank you. Well, I enjoyed working with you, because we both worked together on Guiding White, and that was really a wonderful time. We overlapped our time by, whoa, about a year, was it? Yeah, yeah. It can be here. You know, I just want to jump in if I could and say that I think Hope really humanized Alan and made him vulnerable. And I think the writing and the acting did a great job of that at the time showing, and it was just fantastic. I agree. On this show to this day. Well, thank you very much. Well, the good thing is they didn't bring anybody else to play Hope after I played her, so I feel in a way that's a compliment. You know, so that was nice. And Michael, I have a quick question. Just to get your take from a different angle of where could you possibly seek Guiding Light in the future? You know, I was just talking to our Guiding Light Editor, it's so dim, definitely. We're, you know, lamenting in the morning that's the loss of the show. And I thought, I just stood out loud just a few minutes ago. I said, I wish they had kept it alive, you know, even on radio. I mean, find the finances to keep it as a radio broadcast until maybe it could be brought back in a different economic climate for television. Just keep it alive. I would have loved a through line, but they could bring it back to its original. I do think people would listen on their iPods, on their Nanos, on their MP3 players. I think they would want to keep, I mean, the show did was the first show, I believe, put on available for iPods. I didn't know that. Yeah, I think technology in a few years is going to be, you know, kids today growing up with it are just seeing it totally differently now. They load things up onto their Nanos and they take off. And it's just the timing of technology and business models that, you know, getting what I think really suffered because of it. You know, something else also that we forget. I mean, we don't forget, but everybody's aware of. I mean, it's now most families, the husband and the wife are both working. Whereas when we were on the show, it was a lot more stay-at-home moms and college kids. And it was a lot more audience. And now people, unless they're devowing or, you know, taping it or anything like that. That might be part of the attrition of the audience as well. People are working too many jobs. I mean, it's fine with the economy. Right. Yeah. You know, and from what I'm told, I hate to say this, but "guiding life" is being replaced by a game show. And I believe it. Who wants to be a millionaire? One of those. So let's make a deal. Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal. Those are placed in the light. Oh, we did. It's a lame Brady. It's got to be helped against it. Oh, okay. Very depressing. Oh, yeah. Very depressing. Well, all I can say is I am so glad I found my way back home for "guiding life" even more than that happened. Yeah. Wonderful, Mindy. We were glad to have you here for as long as it is. Thank you so much for coming out today. Oh, my pleasure. You take care, okay? All right. Thanks. And you too. And big hug to you, Michael, and Michael. I'm calling you within an hour, okay? You know, back at you. And no worries. I know how busy people are, believe me, absolutely. But I have full fuel logistics to work out with you. You know what I mean. And, yes, I'll be right. Please tell, please tell Lock I love him and please give him my information. And I'll tell you from here. I sure will. Yes, I will. Okay. See you in two weeks. Oh, very, and in a doubt, thank you very much. You're welcome. All right. Thank you, Dan. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Now we have another person in the holding pattern, don't we, Nivelle? Nivelle. He might be trying to get him on the phone now. Okay. So I think that was really great of Chris to be on. She was fantastic and her usual, lively one stuff. And isn't that cute that her son's going to be an extra on the final episode of "Guiding Life"? Yes, her son's adorable. And I wonder who's child he's supposed to be? Yeah, that's fantastic. You'll have to tune in and see. That's right. That does have like a good surprise, like whose baby is this? Oh, that's somebody's baby. Okay. I think you have a new career in hosting radio after- Yes, she does. You know, you're really keeping this alive and moving and it's terrific as Nivelle is important. I'm not there yet. But it's just great. But I'm just loving it too. You know, catching up with everybody. It's kind of fun to have the tools. I mean, we should probably do it in private. It's not the air, you know, catching up with everybody. So, do you have any other- Michael, do you have any other comments? Gosh, you know, like a million. I mean, I think that, you know, I was thinking of ways in which, you know, "Guiding Life" fans can hang on to the show. I know that one of the theme songs to the show can be downloaded off iTunes. I think it was the theme that ran through most of the 90s that, you know, when it came along, you know, people who love tradition were like, "Oh, no, I like the old one." But now that tune is kind of nostalgic just because it's been gone for about, gosh, maybe 10 years or so. And there are two books on "Guiding Life" that I think fans, if they're not already on their bookshelves, there was the mid-90s coffee table book by Julie Pole and Kaylee Haines. And there was a 1987 50th anniversary book by Christopher Shimmering and both of them. I have that one memorized. Yeah, there were real love letters to the show. The Shimmering book has a new printing out. It's not just the old one, it came out in a newer printing. And I think I know there were two sanctioned videos that came out. Roger the something years and Reba the Scarlet Years that were licensed. And in fact, I just saw them on eBay. The bitter is probably going to kill me for this. But the bid was kind of low and I think there was only one bidder. And I think that those are great ways to kind of keep the stakes of the show for fans who are going to miss it. How are you guys? How are you? Good, how are you? I'm fine. So who do we have now? I don't know. You want to introduce yourself or do you want me to introduce you? No, this is Elvira. I'm asking who you're having now. Who's next? Yeah. Sir. Mr. John Wesley Ship, I believe is with us. Yes, fine. Hi, John. Hey, John. Elvira, how are you? I'm so glad to talk to you, John. Hope to see you next week in California. Are you going to quit this party? Is that next week already? Yeah, it is, isn't it? Oh my goodness. But John, I just wanted to immediately say, are you still singing? Because I remember when we were on "Guiding Light," you were singing away. It was. You know, the funny thing is, I came up to San Jose. My dad came out here to pastor the new community of faith in San Jose. And I came up here. He had heart surgery in December. And I came up here to help out and ended up taking over the music at the church. So I'm doing quite a bit of singing. And I went up to sing a wedding in San Francisco last weekend. And so it's kind of been a resurgence. You know, I had to always sort of kept singing for myself after the so pretty much and did straight, dramatic work. But it was my first, I think, talent and music. And it's been good to return to it. And my dad's doing great. You know, you're back to the whole time. And that's wonderful. Oh, so glad. Glad to hear that. And just one more thing before Devout takes over. I remember, was it NYPD Blue, where you played that very violent character? Yes. The drug addicted cop on NYPD Blue, Roy Larson. Yes. Oh, you're fantastic. Oh, my God. Thank you. It's interesting because at the same time I was doing a play that was set in Brooklyn in 1936. The killing of Michael Malloy at theater in Los Angeles. You know, the two energies set off of each other. You know what I mean? It was great how that worked out. Right. Fascinating, isn't it? I mean, it's just wonderful. I think what's really great in Devout, don't you? Don, don't you feel? And Michael is hearing about the live afterdining life about how people have gone on and what they're creating and how they're continuously using their talent. That's very exciting. Now, Navell, do you want to ask you about Gone and Life Day? I do. I do. Let's talk about Mr. Kelly Nelson. You were involved with Lisa Brown's character, Nola, for a time. I know a lot of people were very, very into that story. And I believe, wasn't there a fantasy sequence that Nola had about your character and our character at one point? We used to laugh that we had the Guiding Light Repertory Theatre Company because we did many fantasies. We did a big cap dancing singing fantasy where I was the Dick Powell character and she was the Ruby Keeler character and shipmates. Right. And then we had a Casablanca fantasy and we had, we had many fantasies that we got to sort of play different parts. Often Lisa would be the Betty Davis character and was very excited when Betty Davis herself wrote to Lisa and said, something on the order of you got the stuff, kid. And Fred Astaire, Fred Astaire was a fan of Guiding Light Repertory. You wrote the letter. John, she wrote the letter to me and shared it with the cast. Oh, yeah? She wrote about Lisa and everybody. How great you all were. Yeah. That's awesome. Isn't that great? That is. I mean, it was what a trip to think. You mean Fred Astaire and Betty Davis would recognize me. Right. Right. Yes. It is. It is. It's like getting our awards. You know, that was award enough. They were watching us, right? Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Wouldn't it be great if they had like a tape devout and Don and Michael as well? Wouldn't it be great if they had a tape of all those wonderful musical segments I'm guiding life? Yeah. It would be. I'd like to have the fantasies cut together. Yeah. I think it would be a real trip. That would be so fabulous because those productions were amazing. Amazing. I'm proud of you guys. You did such a good job. Oh, thanks. Well, we had to fund in wheel here. I mean, in those days, daytime was kind of riding the crest of a wave. We got to go on location to Tenerife in Spanish Canary Islands and to Troy. Not to, not to slight, you know, laurel falls up in town. I know. I know. We had a great time. Please. Remember those great pictures I took of you strutting around in your bathing suit on terrace? You're gorgeous. Oh, my God. They come back to haunt me to just say, you know, it's funny. Someone asked me the other day about my guiding light experiences, Kelly Nelson. I said, "Well, I sang you needed me and I wore a Speedo. And then I sang you needed me in my Speedo. And I figured, well, that's what else. I'm going to be fired now. What else can I do?" That's so funny. It's so funny because someone in the chat room was actually saying, "Long live the Speedo." Matt, that's all for you right there, baby. He just flat out just said, "Long live the Speedo." Like, right as soon as we brought John on, that's the first thing he said. I was saying, "Where we never live these things down, do we?" No. But let me tell you, in your case, I wouldn't want to live it down. You're hot. Yeah. [laughter] Let me tell you, it was like very interesting when I would go out on the road and be talking to fans, maybe saying, "So, are you and John?" I said, "No." [laughter] I said, "Well, tell him I'm available." I said, "Definitely." I remember, I think one time I brought you back a list of the numbers. I remember that's an honor. But you certainly, the unique fan base separate from anybody watching me. I'll tell you that right now. [laughter] Well, I don't know, Elvira. I think they probably overlapped. Come on. [laughter] Maybe slightly. But, I mean, my goodness, you had very ardent fans. And I think I remember once in one of the magazines, it was actually a picture of me vowing down to you after you sang or something, or do you know how to stand? [laughter] You had a great time. We did. We had a great time. That's all I think there was. We were very serious about our work, and we enjoyed it very much. And I think one thing CBS did right was they really tried to cast actors that had done theater work and had a sense of camaraderie about being part of a company. And Elvira certainly helped that I feel this way about you. That you certainly contributed to that whole atmosphere. And we had a mutual respect, and fun, and we're silly, and it was a good time. It was a good time. Yeah. And you know what I really did like about it? And I do tell people, we were a real rep company. There was no start system. We were a rep company. We all respected each other and looked out for each other and praised each other and held each other up and held each other's hands. And, oh, I forgot one. Oh, my God. Do you remember the ape of fools joke we planned on Alan Potter? Which one? Which one? Wait, remember when I went up to him and he was just planning to take me in a location and I said I was pregnant. You're pregnant. And then you and you and Lisa and Marcia Clark tell them what you said to him. I mean, we were really mean. I mean, didn't we all we had, we were all getting ready to go on location. And we didn't we have like three or four people go in separately one at a time over a couple of day period and form Alan that they were pregnant. Which of course is about to invest all of this money. And then it ended Elvira with Sharita. Did Mitt going in? Sharita told him to. Yes, she went in and that was the end of the joke. Sharita, she went in and said. No, no, no, no. No, no, she said that on the stage. But no, no. You went in. You and Marcia did the performance of your life. Oh, what can we do? I remember. Yes, but I don't know what we did. You said that Marcia was very sick. Oh, my God. We didn't. Yeah. I believe the show because you were the only one who was there to take care of Marcia. And you were sitting in your dressing room with him. And we were standing outside listening to this sobbing going on in the dressing room and him walking out. He walked out so upset and then he came down. This is the first time I've seen him come to the sound stage in years. And all of a sudden he walked on later that afternoon onto the sound stage and looked at us all. And then we all looked at him and said, "April Fools." And he was looking so brilliant. He was looking so great. And the capper was Sharita walked over and said, "Alan, it's a miracle. I'm pregnant." And then we all said, "April Fools." And he said, "Oh, my God. I have to run back up and hold up with Warren because we were just trying to figure out how to do more of him." That's right. I had forgotten that, Elvira. I forgot that Marcia and I did that. But we did. We really got into it. I mean, we're homeless. Oh, well. Yes, it was. I wish we did. You know what's so funny about this? Don, Michael, you probably both would know about this. I mean, it's just so funny that she said that April Fools joke because I just think about that as a little turn thing back in 2001. There was actually three women that had to go on maternity leave because they were actually pregnant and they just hadn't. Oh, my God. Marcia Burke. We always used to laugh about the potted plant. You know, they'd haul out the potted plant and suddenly a character, every scene they did would be from behind the potted plant for, you know, however long. Or the big cat. The potted plant was the big... The big purses. And the big cat. The big cat. The big cat. Oh, God. And then they made me pregnant on the show. Yes, that was fun, wasn't it? Oh, my God. Do you remember when I was doing about that? Because I wasn't dating anybody at the time and I did very much want to get married and have children and that wasn't working out in my life. You remember what I did at the studio? I put up the sign that said, "Get the hope." I was spolding pregnant sweepstakes. You know, put your balance in here. I mean, it was just like... I was just trying. I was just trying. You know, I thought maybe I'll eat just get a date out of this. I mean, you know, it was just... Listen, don't let her... Don't let her kid you. It was beautiful as Elvira is. She had no lack of offers, but that was a funny stick. She was always saying that she was desperately trying to get a date. Of course, we all knew differently. You know, she was beating them away with bats, but... I mean, it was very funny. I wish. I wish. But I mean, we had such fun. I mean, we did have this great camaraderie backstage. All of us went to see Lisa Brown on Broadway in 42nd Street and all of us supported each other. We all went to see Marcia Clark at the improv when she did spend a comedy. Right. I mean, we all did. And I think who else was doing a play at the time? I think Kevin Bacon was doing an off-Broadway play. We went to see him. When my sister and I did a show at Caroline, that night club, the whole cast, including head writer, producers, it was great. Right. Yeah. It was the golden years of television as far as I'm concerned. I'll never forget those years. Not that I sit here every day thinking back on dining life, but, you know, when I do think about it, it was just so exciting. And I do, gosh, I'm so excited I'm going to get to see you because I've lost track of many people. And I'll tell you all about that when I see you. But let's all, you know, let's all hold on tight to each other from now on. It's too exciting to know each other. You know, to have that go forward. And I have watched you through the years with all these wonderful performances you've done and always been so amazed and fascinated with the different things you've brought to your characters and just so proud that I got to work with you. So, you know, hopefully it was big and hopefully it was big. Thank you. Absolutely. Yes. Looking forward. Let's work again. Let's look at energy out there. Yeah. Yeah. Let's work together, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, anybody else have any good questions for our gentlemen? John, let me ask you. Have you kept in touch with anyone from the show? Marsha Clark and I are constantly in touch. She's living in California and Studio City. And so we're every week, at least, you know, we either call or talk or email or get together for lunch. And let's see who else, who else, specifically, from Guiding Light, Lisa Brown and I occasionally talk. I haven't seen Kevin in a while, although I did guest star in the closer with Kira, his wife. And he had just directed the previous episode. So, there was a near miss there. But it is, you know, it's funny because you do get, I mean, some people think, they hear us talking about how close, you know, we were on different projects and they may think that we're being disingenuous. But because then you say, well, then I haven't talked to them in so long. But what you don't understand, possibly, is that it's so intense when you do work together. When you're in a studio, sort of hermetically feels from the rest of the world pouring your guts out for 18 hours a day. You know what I mean? You do form an intimacy and a special bond that is quite particular and quite special and quite unusual. And there is a genuine regret that, my God, I shared this huge hunk of my life at the beginning of my career. You know, when anything was possible and I haven't talked to them in so long. So I'm really grateful that Chris is getting us all together for the Guiding Light tribute on the Emmy. You're going to go to the Emmy Award? Probably not. Probably not. We'll try it. I'll do it anyway. And Patrika will be on the red carpet interviewing people. That's so awesome. Maybe you will work that out too. That would be fun. Have you coming down? It's actually more fun to do the red carpet than to sit through the show. That's so true. Particularly if you're nominated, it is excruciating. Yes. Yes. Well, you have a couple of those already, John. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm very fortunate. I'm probably fortunate to work, again, with great cast and to work for the wonderful Douglas Marlon, a wonderful writer who is very organic in his creation of stories and back characters and very specific about making each character sound different. And I've been richly blessed in my professional experience in daytime. Yes. And you remember being on location with him where we were, let's see, where we were, I think, kind of risky. We were dinner one night and we were laughing and he turned to you and said, "My gosh, you laughed." And I said, "What are you talking about?" And he said, "Well, you're always so sad on the show." I said, "Well, hello. You write it. You have me doing all these crying scenes, right?" Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Quite often you bore the emotional content of the show, but that's what's so wild. It's like you look at someone like Charita or certainly Alvera and you look like I'll talk about Charita. You know, on one hand, there was the mother of us all. Yeah. She was always, "Well, dear, let's have a cup of coffee and talk." Yeah. On the other hand, there was this sassy, sexy, spunky, sarcastic, devilishly humorous woman who would keep us all laughing in rehearsals at 7 a.m., you know, that the outside world didn't see. Right. Right. And she really, I think she really set these, the cone of the studio, you know, that we were the rough company, you know what I mean? I think that she led us very well. I think that was also true, you know, now that I'm thinking about it, about, oh God, now I just blank it's on her name, I have just blanked on her name, I can't believe it. Grams in Dawson's Creek. I cannot believe it, as soon as I, I'm going to have to call you back, I can't believe it. I can't think about interesting and then losing touch, but the thing, she played Grams. She played Michelle Williams' grandmother. I cannot believe that I blanked on her name, but anyway, she was so funny and sad. People wouldn't even recognize her, you know, off the set because it was just so not, you know. Right. So, I was thinking about all the people that we've lost, like Charita and Christopher Bernou and the, the men who played in my father, Mike Bauer, okay, and now I'm blanking. Don Stewart. Don Stewart, thank you and so many more, you know, over the years, I mean, they're no longer with us and they were so much a part of history and so I do hope that the Emmys do treat these people in some way on the air because they were the, they were the show, you know. They were everything. And, you know, thinking of Mary Beth Peale. Mary Beth Peale, you know, I'm, I'm furiously looking through my email contact list because I'm mortified, but I mean, God forbid she should, I'll get such a thrashing because very best, if someone I've kept in contact with, but you know how that goes. I tell you, if the aging process is a wonderful and terrible thing. The only reason I know is I looked it up on the internet, believe me. That's what I should have done. Here I am. I literally am sitting here at my computer, furiously going through my contact list of my emails because I was like, I cannot hang up this phone. So, you know, it's so good, good about having a journalist like Michael Maloney on the phone as he knows how to get that information and fast, right? Yeah. Anyone with IMDB can Alvera, but bless you. And sometimes the name, I will not be able to put my fingers on the tip of my tongue. And if I'm in person, forget it. If I'm at my computer, I can cheat with the best of them. Michael, what's going on with dancing with the stars? What's up? You know, they announced the new cast and I hope to be covering it. I plan to be covering it for America Online this season. And I think it's going to be great. And there are some terrific names and they're always changing it up this year. They've added 16 to the cast as opposed to, I think, like 12 or 13, which they usually have. So, I think each year they bring on, you know, new twists to it. Last year, there were a lot of real life couples on it and this year, you know, they're adding more names, which I think is great. And John, I think you'd be a terrific contestant on it. Yeah. John is a mean parentella. I've seen her do it on many a break, so just keep it fantastic. Excuse me, I was dancing on a break, that's good. Absolutely. I was telling fake sob stories about imaginary illnesses and you were tap dancing on the piano. I don't think so, but that's very funny. Oh, my God. Well, that would be actual fun to see you on that show, actually, John. Well, you know, who has been after me and who is in her assault of classes faithfully is Mary Margaret Hume's who played my wife on Dawson's Creek. I call her my widow because, of course, Mitch Leary died in the fifth season, but my widow wants us very much to be on day. So, why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? But, you know, it's possible. Anything is possible. Maybe we'll get you some tickets to go sit there through our mutual friend, right, Michael? Absolutely. Let me see what I can do. Sure. Maybe we can get you tickets to sit there and be introduced and maybe they have a few of you do a little dance. You never know what's going to happen in life. You just never know anything's possible. That's one thing I have to learn. Yeah, the wonderful afterlife of diving light, right, wonderful careers everybody has gone on to and so excited to get to catch up with you and really let's try to have a nice quiet lunch or something when I'm out there. Thanks. Let's do it. Let's make sure and do it. Let's do it. And then out? Anything else? I actually wanted to get this in there. I know a fan really wanted to, and I wanted to get that in there before we let you go. They wanted you to basically, and this is from Dan, Dan, if you're listening. This is for you. He loves you when you're on Azimuth terms. It's Doug Cummings. He loved you in that role. He wanted to basically want to find out how did you like playing that particular character on that show. That was very, very intense. It was a dream come true. I mean, what better? It was also very smart if you stop and think about what Douglas Marlin did. And essentially, he had gone from Guiding Light and was now writing as the world turns. He had created Kelly Nelson on Guiding Light, who was the guy every girl's mother would want her to marry and date and be with an absolutely good guy, upright boy, you know. He brought all of that energy from Kelly Nelson into the role. Douglas as the world turns so that nobody ever suspected when the secret admirer story started happening on one end of the city and the murders started happening on the other end of the city. Nobody connected them with each other and nobody connected them to me because I was kind of a Kelly Nelson character that was going to swoop in and be the answer to all of Julianne Moore's character, Franny, to all her problems. And so when it did turn out to be me, the phones lit up and see it. And I have to tell you to go from four years of playing a really good guy to be able to take that energy on to another show and have in such a beautifully written story and beautifully acted by the rest of the cast story to take that all the way into absolute dementia. I mean, how can you be being stabbed in the back with a crystal cylinder by a loyal friend during a rape attempt? I mean, where else does that happen? Oh my God, we forget exactly. Wow. You know, Doug, I have to tell you, as someone who writes about minutiae, you know, I will see an article, people say, "Oh, Doug got stabbed by a letter opener," and I thought, you know, Doug Marlon did not do that ciché. He did not do the ciché of the letter opener, he made it up crystal cylinder. Crystal cylinder. Crystal cylinder. Yes. That was a touch that just was the cherry on the cake. You know, my parents actually edited out that entire dreams end or lands end or whatever the name of that place where I kidnapped Kim and Franny and took them to at the end of the storyline. They edited everything out from the first murder to the first note that Kim received and anything that touched on that story over the course of eight months and edited it together as a mini-series, rather lengthy mini-series, more like a series, and they said, you know, the astounding thing is that nobody, that they could find, was in the place that they could not have been at any given moment in order for the storyline, very complex, multi-level storyline to make sense, and that takes planning. I mean, we're talking about five hours of television a week, not one mistake, not having me in a place or somebody say that I was in a place with them when Marie got murdered. And we've seen the opposite, unfortunately, as viewers, we've seen people in scenes where someone else is being killed and then later that someone in that other scene simultaneously is revealed as the killer and the audience can tell when they're making it up as they go along. But, you know, I mean, look at that, I have to say, though, that working that way as a writer, that talk about long days, I just wonder sometimes the enormous toll that working that way, in which he had his hand in everything, in which his outlines could be 25 and 30 pages. I wonder the tremendous toll it took on him, but certainly his audiences were richly blessed. You know, I just want to say one more thing, do you remember that incredible party he had for all of us at his house? Oh, yeah, didn't we end up, there was a small group of us that ended up telling stories in the attic. It was such an incredible house in New Canaan, Connecticut. Oh my God, huge mountain, it's like your dream house of every movie you've ever seen, and beautifully decorated with antiques, and he had buffet tables overlaid with food. It was like something out of a grand movie, wasn't it? It was. That house was originally, I think it was the governor's house in Vermont, and it was dismantled and marked board by board and nail by nail and reassembled on a beautiful stretch of land on the Silver Mine River in New Canaan, Connecticut, beautiful places. And I still have the pictures, I'll have to find them, I have a whole album of pictures of all of us, and we were all children. Put them on Facebook then. No, no, no, that's our private, that's our private, no. I don't do Facebook or any of that stuff, I'm so private, it's ridiculous, that's why I've just appeared. But anyway, I'll bring you up to date when I see you, but I'm so excited, we got to talk to you. Thank you, me too. It was great. It was so great. Thanks guys. Take care. Take care. Bye bye now. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. You know, guys, I actually, I'll have to get ready for another interview I'm doing, so I'd like to thank you, and this was just fantastic for me as well, it was really great. I hope everyone checks out the soap-in-depth issue of coming out mid, coming out on September 14th that will contain, you know, a big tribute to guiding light. Okay. Great. That's the thing. We're looking forward for that. Remember, I love my nine copies and I'm going to address it. And I'm buying 10 copies, so don't worry, it'll sell. Bless you. Bless you. I really, how can I check this out? Can I go to the web and will there be a podcast of this, or is it? There will be a podcast of this, and all I got to do is, once it's over, it, all I got to do is log on at www.buzzworthyradio.net. Fantastic. So I can say, wow, I don't really sound like that, do I? No, I'm just kidding. Episode 101 is what this one is, though. Terrific. I will check it out. Thank you for it again. Okay. Bye. Bye. Take care. Bye, Michael. So, thank you very much, Novall, it was terrific doing this with you today. Yes, of course. It was really, it was really, I'm a little bit emotional right now, talking to everybody. It was great to meet you. I think we missed Judy. Did you call her? No, I'm about to get in touch with her right now, and I know I know most of you guys want to have Judy here, but you know what, we're going to have a special show for her just for you guys, because we didn't get her here in this show. So, don't worry, we're not going to leave her out, she will be here. So, we're going to have a special showing for her, so I will, as soon as I get the time stamps for that, I will let you all know exactly when she will be here. Okay, so you'll let her know. All right. Yes, yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. I just want to say before we wrap things up here, everybody who tuned in, it was a great crowd. We had a lot of people here listening to this show today. You know, 72 years of a wonderful drama that is guiding life that's going to be leaving us. I really don't want to replace, I don't want it ending, and I don't want a game show taking the place of it. I mean, how can a game show replace so many years of guiding life? And again, no matter what we say about it now, no matter what has happened on the show throughout its years being on the air, how can we get rid of such a staple? A eight-time staple. When you think of eight-time dramas, you think of guiding life. You know, that's what I think of. I mean, that's me, and I don't know how many else feel that way, so the minute I think of soap opera I think of guiding life, it's being in the longest, it's done so many things on this show that not many people will forget, and a lot of people will love. I mean, what other soap has a woman go into a fountain and proclaim herself to flood a Springfield? Yes. Well, who does that? Who does this? Who else does that? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. And they're getting rid of that. Well, let's hope that we all see everybody from the show somewhere else, and maybe they won't bring the show back. I mean, it just seems to feel that's still a possibility, so let's hope there's something in the future. Absolutely. Absolutely. But I want to thank you again for coming out here today, again, this week. I am looking forward to seeing you out there in LA in about a week from Sunday. Right. I'm looking forward to it, and we'll be rocking it on the red carpet. I'll be the whole person. I think going for off the coast. My mother gave me a minute here, so for this pile, so I have the case of the word. The good luck. The whole work. Thank you so much. Thank you, Dawn, too, for coming out here and helping us out today. No problem. Great. Thank you, girls. Thank you so much. Thank you, girl. Okay? All right. Bye-bye. Wow, you guys, that was a great two-hour program that we just had. I am still happy with the turnout. I'm still happy with everything that went on with the show today, and it was a fantastic program. Thank you all so much for tuning into the show. I would love to have more shows like this, so I'm happier, happier occasion, of course. But I want you guys to tune in tomorrow's show with Jim Ramonovich. He will be our guest tomorrow afternoon at 4 p.m. Eastern time, so make sure you guys check out that show. He will be joining us now about the daytime Emmys, as well as the daytime kids back, as well as the fact that he is also producing the daytime Emmys this year, actually he is company. He himself, not alone in that regard, is his company, ATI World Wide Media and Entertainment. He is producing the Emmys on the CW, so thanks. Thankfully, for him and his company, we have an Emmys to go to this year, so I want to commend him for that. 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Our Guiding Light tribute show is getting underway as we have slated some guest stars to make an appearance for the show. Hosted by NaVell J. Lee with special guest co-host Elvera Roussel, fans will be able to tune and hear some of GL's former and current cast members share wonderful experiences of the show, as well as voice their own.

Among those that are slated/confirmed to attend are: Judi Evans (ex-Beth Raines 1983-1986), Denise Pence (ex-Katie Parker 1977-1985), and Krista Tesreau (Mindy Lewis). Also, Mimi Torchin will be making a special GL commentary on our live broadcast, and more names will be added to the roster very shortly.