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BuzzWorthy Radio: GUIDING LIGHT!
Join BuzzWorthy Radio as we talk about the latest developments regarding Guiding Light. Hear Tracey Smeltzer on her campaign to keep the show on the air, as well as others discuss on how they felt when they heard the news of the cancellation. Fans are urged to call in and show their support of the show, as well as their favorite moments of the daytime drama! Be sure to also listen in for information on what you can do to keep GL on the air.
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- 1h 44m
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- 09 Apr 2009
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If you want to join in on the phone conversation for tonight, the number of the dial-in is 646-595-4228. We have the chat room up and running right now. Guests are piling up in there, so we encourage you to get in the chat room as well, or you can send us emails at nadley@buzzworthyradio.net. Tonight's agenda is basically going to be discussing what is going on in the world of so, basically, primarily the Guiding Light. News broke out. This past went, not this past, last Wednesday, April Fool's Day. This is going to be burned in my memory now. That Guiding Light will be finishing out its season on CVS this year on September 18, 2009. And fans, excuse me, have been in just a rampage in trying to show their utmost support and trying to keep it on the air on CVS or another avenue, what have you, to just keep the show alive and not let the light go out, basically. And we're going to be joined by one of those fan campaigners tonight. Her name is Tracy Smelter. If I pronounce your name wrong, please correct me. She'll be joining us very, very shortly. But before we get into that, let's bring on my wonderful co-host, the brilliant, ever so talented Matthew Preston. What's going on? Hey, I am just so excited because once I heard the news about GL, I was so bummed. And this is a good way to vent with all the fans. And it was actually really funny. As it was driving, it was, you know me, I like to think of like funny little quirky things to say. So thinking, even though the light may be turning off, even though love can save the world, you can possibly save your show by listening to buzzworthy radio. And you know, maybe we can send us the big wigs at CVS and make them see. That's what I said about days of our lives, too, where days of our lives are supposedly canceled. That's what we need to do is for getting light, we need to show the fan support. So I am just so passionate and so happy that we are having the show tonight. It's so appropriate. Absolutely. I believe this is our guest night. I believe this is Tracy. Area code, if I'm mistaken, I'm mistaken. But area code 212, you're on the line right now. How are you? Hello. Hi, how are you? Okay, this isn't Tracy. This is Connie Kestlachwa Heyman. You're on my friend, even though we've never met. Oh, yes, you are on my Facebook. How are you? Okay, yeah, but well, I am mauling into a car and everybody knows that. I just was answering some of them. I knew we'd met them in the zone before. Right, right. Well, anyway, I just finished a big column on guiding life today that took me a week to write and I got an overwhelming letter that I saw you were doing a show on guiding life. So I figured I'd call in and just tell you a little bit about what I said. Absolutely, absolutely. We'll definitely keep you here. I see Tracy is on the line as I recognize it as a Philadelphia area code. But let's take this caller. Before we bring Tracy on, I will get you in a minute. Caller, you're on the line right now. Hello. Hi. Hi, this is Gregor Zick calling from daytime royalty. Hey, Gregor Zick. Hey, what's up? Hey, I don't know. I mean, I'm having mixed feelings about guiding life continuing. You know, I go back to the show to the 60s when I had neighbors who worked for P&G and worked behind the scenes on this show, such as Ed Track. And this show was at its best in the 60s from 65 to 76. And I just feel like there's been too many errors made in the, particularly the last, you know, 10 to 12 years, ever since Paul Roche took over. You know, San Cristobal, the mob storyline, you know, the clone, the whole bet. But I don't know, is this show worth saving at this point? And which network would even bother picking it up at this point? Well, first of all, you have a good question. I'm going to interject here for just a second. I'm sorry to cut you off, but let me bring Tracy on here. One of the perfect people to probably answer or feel the question directly to. Tracy, are you on the line? Hello? Yes. Hi, this is Tracy. Hey, how are you? Good. How are you? We're doing very well. Thanks for coming out here tonight. Thanks for inviting me. Absolutely. Now you are one of the big advocates here for keeping the light shining. I'm sure I'm saying the title wrong, but if keep the light shining campaign that you have been doing along with Dana, who is in our chat room right now who can't call it. I'm sorry, but you want to describe how that got started for all of us listening? Sure. Actually, we began that campaign several months ago when all those rumors were swirling. And actually, it was an idea that came from some people who decided to start sending door cell batteries to the studio to show our support for the show. But what started happening was people started thinking, gee, can we mail batteries to the studio? And if we do, what are they going to do with all of these batteries that they get from us? So someone decided to get creative and they created a postcard and they used the door cell battery and incorporated the guiding light logo. And the next thing you knew, different people were taking other proctor and gamble products and putting together postcards with the slogans for those products. And Dana and I had been in contact through another board. And we decided to use Facebook as a way to kind of bring fans together, get those postcards out into their hands and allow them to mail them into the studio to show our support for the show. So it actually started several months before the announcement last week. Okay, all right. I mean, I just saw so much support just swirling in and it's just got so much attention. And, you know, I really never talked about, I mean, I talked about it maybe like here and there like a breath or, you know, when I first heard the news break out that it was being canceled on CBS was going to renew its contract. And I've never really said anything about it. And this is like my first time really discussing guiding light as a whole. I mean, this show has been all for 72 years. I mean, this has been a part of my existence since I was five. You know, I started watching it since 1990. You know, you're coming home from school at three o'clock. That's the show you watch because that's the only show that you'll get to see during the day is guiding light unless you're one of those GH rigs. But, you know, we're not talking about GH at the moment, but. So, actually, I mean, I was nine years old and I remember coming home from school, getting off the bus and it airs in the pits at that time. It was still airing at three o'clock in the Pittsburgh market, which is where I'm at. Exactly. And the Pittsburgh area. So much. I started watching the show in 1980 when I was editor of afternoon TV and that's really a long time. And that's what I wrote about my column. That's now at Marlena Delacroix calm. But I think that, you know, so many things that happened to the show or universal happened to all the other souls and guiding light just happens to be the first really big one to be canceled, you know, since in the last couple of years and guidance was going to happen after this. Yeah. Well, that's that's the main question that's like being posed right now. And, you know, Greg is like, I'm sure you can vouch for this as much as anybody else. And the thing is, is like, with this news breaking, you know, what does that mean for the rest of the daytime? So, because the first thing I think of when I think of gay time, so about this guiding light, because it's been around the longest. It started on radio, went on to TV as a 15 minute show, graduated to 30 minutes, graduated to an hour. You know, it pretty much was like the huge daytime soap opera staple because it's, you know, it I pretty much say it just like started off for everything else. And, you know, now that this is going off going off at CBS with no idea if it's going to end up anywhere else, you know, what do you think about the rest of the soaps, you know, I mean, because it seems like the rest of the subs better be careful because I look at it this way. You know, NBC canceled passions. Now, CBS has canceled guiding light. ABC is going to have to make some decisions here within a year about one of their shows. I think, you know, personally, I mean, if they canceled all my children tomorrow, I wouldn't miss it. And I just, you know, to me, guiding light has had so many missed opportunities. I mean, you know, storyline wise, I mean, you know, Alan Michael was married four time, but yet his mother hope was never at any of his weddings. They haven't done anything with the character of Frank, since Alainee left the show. That was a significant. I'm sorry. I always considered, you know, Rick and Mindy more interesting as a couple than Philip and Beth. And, you know, we've seen more of Philip and Beth and we have a Rick and Mindy. I just think, you know, there's been, you know, too much Riva. I mean, and it's not that Josh and Riva didn't have their day. They did, but they're overexposed now. They should have cut their losses with Bradley Cole when they got rid of him as Prince Richard. I don't understand why they ever brought the man back. He's handsome. You know, that may be it, but it, it, it hasn't proven he's not handsome enough to keep the ratings up in the long run. I agree. Navell, I'm sorry. I just pulled him briefly to say hello and to tell you about the column. And, you know, if you want to talk with me any other time, you know, get in touch with me. Okay. Absolutely. Okay. Thanks a lot. Take care. Take care. Bye bye. Bye. Well, something I want to post to you guys out there is that a rumor that I heard was Telenex possibly could go online with the show. If that is true, it sort of already feels like the plot that they have now is sort of like an online format with the way that it's filmed. Do you think it could survive that way if it goes from radio to TV to the internet? I think, I think it's, you know, I've talked about that with some different people here over the course of the last week. And I said, you know, I'm sure that the growing pains that we went through with the new production model over the past year were in some ways very similar to that audience that had listened to the show on radio. And those people would have put their own faces on those characters. So they would have had in their minds what each of those characters looked like and, you know, all of those different things. And then it moved to TV where suddenly now somebody else was putting that face on those characters for them. And it made that transition successfully. And I think, you know, the initial shock of the change in the production is similar because it was so different. And I have to agree that when you watch online, there are times where when you're watching online, it actually looks much better than it does sometimes coming across on television. I agree with that too. I mean, that's very iffy, you know what I mean? It just seems like very iffy. You know, I have this itch where it could survive on the internet, but then I have this itch where it cannot survive on the internet. I don't know. It just seems like, I guess how people would take to it. You know, not a lot of people have computers or have the internet. So if it were to move to an internet market, not many people would then still be able to see it. So I don't know. It's like a toss-up for that one for me, but that's how I feel about it. Well, especially since because it's been on the airwaves for 72 years, you still have a lot of fans who have been watching it for 70 years. When I was in New York this past year for the gathering, we met a woman who has been listening and/or watching since the show's beginning. And, you know, since starting this campaign and, you know, looking at the online petition, looking at some of the things that have been coming in to me, that's something that is certainly brought up when you have granddaughters and daughters of some of these people saying, "I started watching this with my grandmother. My grandmother is now, you know, 82 years old. She doesn't have a computer. She doesn't see that well. We don't want to lose the show, and we don't want it taken off of the television medium because then she's not going to be able to watch." So I certainly understand that as well. In looking at all these letters that are coming in, it's broader than that demographic that CBS and the other stations are so focused on. You have all age groups. You have all walks of life. You have men. You have women. And it's so true. And if you want to, if you are one of those fans that Tracy mentioned, you have to call in and get in on all this fun and discussion, the number here is 646-595-4228, or you can join the chat room. We're actually, I'm looking in the chat room because I guess the blog talk radio we can't have to, we'll find the same name. Somebody actually says, "Who was it?" I believe it was. Somebody asked, "What is your most precious, treasured, guiding-like moment?" I think it's a really good question to ask for everyone out there. Oh, wow. I said in the room too, I was like, "God, you got to pick one." Let's see. There was Peggy's murder trial in '69, the scene where she is visiting her newborn son in jail and the guard staked the baby away from her and she's freaking out. When Tracy Delmore's real identity was revealed and she was not Sarah's niece, but actually a con woman named Charlotte Waring. Leslie giving birth to Rick in 1970. Let's see. Leslie's death scene in '76. Of course, Holly and Roger's debut in '70, with Lynn Deerfield then playing Holly. I would say Rick and Mindy in Central Park in the early '80s. The Hall of Mirrors was my favorite. I like the Hall of Mirrors. The Hall of Mirrors was good. That was one of Zazla's great moments. Love the Hall of Mirrors. Right. I would say Beth McKinsey, Rockin' Roger's world is Alex at the Country Club in the early '90s. I started watching when Hope and Alan were on the island and I joke because I think Alan was probably my first crush. That sticks out in my mind vividly because that's when I started watching and that's what got me hooked on guiding light. It's so hard for me to narrow down some of those other moments. In recent years, there have been so many things that I have liked. My connection to the show has become a personal one over the past several years. So for me, it's really hard to break it down into individual segments because there are so many different things that I've enjoyed. Well, I'm actually probably the person who has been watching it. I haven't had as much history as the listeners as much as you guys out there. I started watching in 2002 whenever they were doing the June call and stunt. It pulled me in. I'll definitely tell you that. But one of the storylines which I thought was the greatest, which I love to stir the pot and I'm definitely going to stir the pot with this. I know that I'm going to get like goos and don't throw stuff at me and the hate mail goes to Annie and Burl, but I have to say the exit of Eden had me on the edge of my seat about her. She can't be ill, but she does. It was an amazing story plot and I was glued the whole week in the status year ago. Oh, hate mail goes to Rock Dog at Annie and Burl Pop.com. You got in late, man. Oh, my God, you like that. Well, I'll give you credit though. At least you didn't say the Marianne Coretta story because if you did, then I really would just... At least they're trying for me, but you know, I'm like a positive person, but that was definitely one of my my favorite guideline story plot. I was literally screaming at the TV like which they never do, so. Well, we got lots of colors rounding up in the valley here and let's take this one from Area Code 315. You're on the line right now. How are you? Good. Who are you talking to? That's from Syracuse. Very, very, very low there. You said your name is Chris. From Syracuse? From Syracuse. All right. What exactly is your favorite guiding light moment if you can pick and choose one? When Carly Laura Wright started as Kathy. Yeah, I like that. I have to admit, I was tuned in when Laura Wright came on the show. I mean, I watched guiding light profusely every day, but you know, I grew up with Laura Wright on loving and when she came on to guiding light as Kathy Lane, that was a smart move. So yeah, I like that choice. How did you how did you take it when you heard that guiding light was canceled off the CBS? Like what was your reaction? I tried for a few days. I almost did too. I have to admit, I'm with you on that one. Same here. You know, you brought up like a good point that I really want to stress about that too, because there was actually a message that I had read in the post at the daytime rosy actually in regards to this. When the news broke out, that guiding light was indeed canceled. You know, everybody would say it's like you're losing like a family friend or you're like losing something that's very close to you. You really do because depending on how long you've watched it, you know, it hits close to home. And even though they do say that everything that has the beginning must have an end, you know, you really don't want this to end. You know, this is this is just like an end of an era, this kind of thing that's happening with and it does hurt and everything. And it just struck me funny that someone had said that, you know, this is like something that you shouldn't be feeling, but I'm like, well, it is, you know, you grew you grow attached to these people, like you grow attached to watching them day in and day out. And that's just something that's precious to you that you don't want to get rid of. So that's how I feel about it. Yeah, same here. I mean, it's different than any other type of television program where, you know, you expect the prime time show to have a successful run of five, six, seven, eight, nine years and then go off the air. But with soap, you're dealing with decades, literally. I mean, I've been watching for 30 years and so you grow attached and you also get to know those characters in a very different way than you do any other genre because you get to see the sides of the character that the other characters don't necessarily get to see. You know, I've been a fan of Alan's clothing from the very beginning and, you know, I get asked all the time, well, you know, why do you like that character? And there's always been that vulnerable side to Alan that the audience gets to see that the other characters don't necessarily get to see. And, you know, when the news came out, you know, I just kind of sat there for a while and didn't say anything and then finally one of the kids that was there with me, you know, was like, you know, what's wrong? And I just remember saying they just canceled and they looked at me and they said, what do you mean? I said, they just canceled the show. And that's all I had to say. They knew exactly what I meant. And then the skiers started coming because it was like, you know, it was a blow to the stomach. It was like losing an old friend. I think that something else, which was really interesting, was the day it came out, April 1st, which is April 4th. I think a lot of people's first reactions, at least my first reaction was, actually, I called him a val and I don't know that it is true. I mean, it's a joke. I mean, you know, a lot of fans will say, oh, this is canceled and ha ha, which is joking. But once you heard that it was true, it was just, it's just, it's really sad. And yes, no, I'll do it the great thing. It's like you're leaving a friend. It sucks. It really does. So, CBS, you know, anybody who depowers to be up there, you are making, in my opinion, you're making a huge mistake because you have a legacy on your hands and you're going to look like, oh, this kid, this has so much potential to go on. If it's, I don't want to, I'm not going to go into the whole writing aspect. I'm sure a lot of you fans can. I mean, maybe I can play a little bit devil's advocate and maybe say, what would you fix if you could fix it, but I'm just, I don't know. It seems like there wasn't any attempt to try to fix the show. It's just like, okay, it's done full of bugs. What's ironic that, you know, last week, if you, if you read any of the soap magazines who kind of were ignoring guiding light for quite a while, all of a sudden, they started talking about the different stories and how much better the stories had been getting. And I think that's the other thing that made it hurt so much is that since January, the fans on the boards that have been in discussions have been talking about how much better those stories have been than they had been for, say, the past couple of years or so, depending on how you look at it. And so it was like, gee, you know, here we are. We're on an upswing here and you're going to pull the plug on us. Well, that's what brought like a lot of people out commenting about it saying that, do you think it's too little, too late now? Because everybody started hearing that Phillips balling was going to come back right now and then it was coming back. Chris, the Tesro came back to reprise our role as Mindy. You know, it just seemed like everything was culminating into this one huge thing. And everybody thought of the exact same thing. Remember what happened with another world in its final year that it was on NBC, what they were doing. And another world was like fan, half taken a final year, and they felt the same was happening with the guiding life. They all were fantastic in their final year because the network don't care and they're left to their own devices. Yeah, I totally agree with that. And that's immediately what I felt, too. Honestly, I felt in my gut that it was going to, the words were going to come out saying it is canceled. I really did. But you still have this itch where you don't think it's actually going to happen. Before we continue on, let's take this next call here from area code 203. You're on the line right now. How are you? 203. Hello. Area code 203. Oh, well, 203. Hopefully you can call back in. Of course it happened. All right. Yeah. All right. Let's take this next call here. I believe this is a Candice. You're on the line right now. Hey, you guys. Hey, long time to see how have you been? Yeah. I've been okay. I've been okay for the last week. I've been trying to be okay. It's a tough. Obviously, from your standpoint, it's going to be from what's been happening and how you know that's starting like stars and everything. I mean, the thing is, you hear the stories about how the show has affected everybody. Of course, with me, my great-grandmother, who passed away in 2000, she used to listen to it on the radio. The year my mom was born was when it came over to television. I am the only one in the family who has met the cast and has been on the set. And of course, like everybody has said, when the date that it came out, everybody was like, "Oh, it's a school stage up." But then when it was on my local news, and then it was on the newspapers, it was like, "What?" Like, say that again, and then that's when I start crying. I actually, I will admit, I actually went on the news and cried. It was even, it just, I mean, even now I saw the SoulPapa Digest cover on the, you know, and I like how it actually makes me upset because even the magazines aren't really giving down like full credit, because up top of next week or this week SoulPapa Digest, it has a top down like canceled. That's it. Yeah, that should definitely be front page. I agree with you there. You know, I mean, I'm glad it's on the front page, but seriously, a little bit bigger. I can tell you, I can for sure tell you the next episode of episode insider, it's like nothing with geo coverage. Check that out. I mean, we're definitely, that's, it's front page, I agree with you. You can't, it's front page news. How can you ignore it? I mean, you, I gotta get credit to you us today, because at least they had a freaking picture, and they had a whole, like, whole page on it. I feel insane. Yeah, it's, it's sad that, that a magazine that is dedicated to the genre, doesn't understand the, the gravity of the situation in terms of the fans and the genre. Every other news outlet has carried the story, um, in some way, news, black news, which really don't even care really much about daytime. I gotta get back to news, I'm credit, because they were just, they had a whole piece on down light, the history of down light, and they had asked the question, because they was only, like, a couple of days ago. They was like, how will this affect the rest of the daytime industry? Let's wait until you this way. I already said it, the, the next, the three subs that will last, and if I'm right on this, is going to be younger to restless, general hospital, and all my children. And I said that because, what about bone the beautiful? I mean, I mean, a thing is they're running out of story ideas. Well, they're all running out of story, all running out of story line ideas. Like, bone is beautiful, it has involved around two families for over 20, for 22 years. And, you know, they try to branch out and bring other families in, they try to branch out, bring other characters in, and it always comes back to the same old female. And it's kind of the same for, for God, you might never be seen. God, I might raise out. Clippers, and uh, Alan Michael was like, with every Cooper woman, he was with Harley, he was with Lucy, he was with Marina, you know, even a lady with a Cooper woman. I mean, you have to have a male flight, I mean, you have to have a male flight, one show. I mean, look at Coop, okay, Coop was really becoming a male whore. It's like, you know, I just like, you know, now that I'm thinking about, you know, the question was, you know, can you name some of your favorite downlight moments? And I'm just like, wow, there's so many to pick from, you know, Roger Crash and Blake's wedding to fill up things. Oh, yeah. That was good. I like that. The black out was bridging with the hairdryer. Yeah, anything, Jonathan and Tammy, I got to go there. Yes, the high five. High five on that one. There you go. You know, the nursery rhyme Stalker. Oh, God. Um, let's see Dylan and Dylan's wedding disaster. Dylan's wedding. Yeah, and most recent one and everybody knows I'm John Driscoll's number one fan, I guess, but it was Buzz and Coop. The final episode John Driscoll did with just needs. That broke. That was a good one. I, that's right up there with Tammy stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but here's something that I want to ask actually all the panel that we have on, now for the people in the chair. Of course, we have petitions going on. Of course, we have a lot of people fighting for the show, but what else can be done? Where do you, who do you write to? Where do you send the letters to? Tracy, this is probably a good question directed towards you. What else can be done to try to save that light? You know, right now in the people I've talked to, you know, with the show, I mean, you know, Ron keeps telling me, you know, get those letters out, spread the word. I'm hearing that Procter and Gamble productions tell a next that they are so overwhelmed right now with the fans who are calling and writing the studio every day, that that's a motivating factor and they're wanting to find someplace for guiding light to go on and continue. If you go to the blog that I have up, it's SaveOurLight.blogspot.com. Yesterday, we just posted that Beth Chamberlain is collecting emails and letters and she's going to hand deliver those to Ellen Wheeler and Procter and Gamble and there are a number of other actors that are looking to do this and you know, the petitions are there, the phone calls are there and what we're hearing is at this point, you know, CBS has made their decision and it's pretty evident that we're not happy about that decision but Procter and Gamble didn't do this to guiding light. CBS made the decision Procter and Gamble productions tell a next, the cast, the crew, you know, while the rumors were out there, they really didn't think that it was going to happen and they especially didn't think that it was going to happen on April 1st and so, you know, what I'm hearing is keep supporting, guiding light, keep supporting, PGP, TeleNext, and don't get into that negative stuff because the negative stuff is not productive. Right now, we have so much positive energy and that positive energy is being noticed by the people in that studio and that's what I keep impressing upon our keep the light shining group and some of the other people have contacted me, you know, it's not Procter and Gamble so when we hear these people saying, oh, let's ban Procter and Gamble products, it's not Procter and Gamble, you know, it was CBS who made the decision and I think it's so important. I mean, CBS, they've made their decision, is it the wrong decision? I think so, I think a lot of people think so. Well, here's, you know, I think this was your post actually when you did that, there was, there's a CBS and page on Facebook if not many are aware of it and I saw Tracy's post on it where she's a CBS also fan. I wouldn't go that far, but the thing is that there are other shows on there that I need to show support of, namely as the world turns because as the world turns is right there with guiding light, you know, it's not doing so hot either and, you know, it's just like you just thinking your head, you know, you're going to boycott Procter and Gamble Proct, you know, it's a war Procter and Gamble, you know, let's just say it was Procter and Gamble, you were going to boycott their products, that's fine, but this is CBS is doing. CBS is the one I want to get rid of guiding light, you're going to boycott CBS, what about the other shows, since you're going to boycott CBS, does that mean that you can't watch Y&R, B&B and that was the world turns. It's also right now a dying industry at this point with guiding light already not being on CBS, all the other shows are going to need support as well because they are not doing so hot either, you know, you're lucky if anybody can crack a 2.0 as of late. Right and the thing is, somebody's always going to have to be last, you know, and passions was last, so let's get rid of passions because they're last. Charles was last, they got rid of us, yeah. And that's just it, that they're just, they're going to continue cutting from the bottom up because no matter what, someone is going to be last. One of the soaps is going to be last until perhaps they're not there any longer. Plus, we really could do like they get on radio and cut them all in one day. That's true. That's true. We've actually been hearing, what are they going to replace it with? I've heard game shows. We've already discussed it now. Yeah, Dr. Phil would go to two hours of funding hearing. I mean, first off, I have to say Dr. Phil, so Tracy, since you are from Pittsburgh, you know about this, is that whenever they, you probably like was broadcast, there was broadcast at 3pm. I think that somebody else was talking about this in chatroom and then it got switched to 10 o'clock. I actually found this out to be true whenever I briefly was in New York, came back home and then three months later it happened with Gallogly that was just so upset. So, is this sort of Dr. Phil fault in a way? But interestingly enough, and I learned this from, I believe it was the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, when Katie Ka made that decision, that's the CBS affiliate, to move guiding light out of the three o'clock cons spot. It was to give Dr. Phil's ratings a boost. But ironically, what happened was, at least in the Pittsburgh market, people followed guiding light and guiding light really did not drop in the ratings in the Pittsburgh market. And when I was at the studios this past fall, you know, that they said that Pittsburgh really is one of the stronger markets in viewership. I never do that, sweet. You know, and I've heard multiple times that, you know, guiding light spilled big in the Pittsburgh area. And I know just locally I run into people all the time. And now they know that I have that connection with the show in running site, in running, running best site. I mean, I started getting phone calls last week from people that I didn't even know that knew where to find me. Yeah, and actually it's really funny because if you talk to anybody in Pittsburgh and ask them what soap operas do they watch, dying light comes up so much. I remember, I was talking to some girl at the bank, I was actually kind of promoting myself, but then, you know, talking about, oh, what soap do you watch? Because I was plugging the show, whatever, our show. And she said, I watched guiding light and I was like, oh, you know, we have a bunch of guiding light stars on. It's that popular yet it's that last and it's dead. It's dead. It's so weird. It's just so, I don't know. I don't get it. It's just like that in Baltimore, Maryland, because just like you guys, Dr. Phil replaced kind of light at the three o'clock flight to move it to 10 a.m. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, who really going to watch it? Because you have people in school in their work. So, and I have found out that our local affiliate, WJZ, they said something about, just like you guys said, that they sold the time flight to booze, not going to fill his ratings up. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, really? And then they said the reason that they did it was because here on channel 13, WJZ S3, it's Dr. Phil, four o'clock on another network, it's Oprah. So, they figured people who watch Dr. Phil will turn over to Oprah and it's like, what, wait. I did hear that when I was in Florida, I was in Florida, they did say that to me that people, and that's how they worked it. Since, you know, basically Oprah was like the stepping stone for Dr. Phil to create that on the show and everything. And, you know, they figured if people watch Dr. Phil, they're going to watch Oprah. I mean, I thought it was going to be vice versa, more people watch Oprah than Dr. Phil. But, to be honest, I really don't care about Dr. Phil. I don't care. I think it was a dumb move on their part to even move it to 10 a.m. Because another thing as well is guiding light is not on in every market. That's another thing that they got bad going for that. It's not on in every market. So, it's made of soaps are on till the bitter end. They'll be in their time slot, you know, that the network deems them to be, you know, this is soaps city here in Cincinnati, be good old since he's so put. I mean, I don't think there's, I think the one, I think the last time that a station prematurely canceled a soap was the secret storm back in the early 70s and they never heard the end of it. In this, in this one provided hope. Our, our bottom of our station canceled minus hope at that time flight, which was 1230 and put it on. If I remember this correctly, because I was only five people this month to like 1230 midnight. Now, can somebody explain who's going to watch the photographer at that time? I know in this area, you know, like I said, I'm in the Pittsburgh market, but we also, if you have cable, can get Altoona. Altoona still broadcasts guiding light at three o'clock. So, I think, what that? I think that is true. Actually, um, towards, if you get toward up north of Pittsburgh, towards the Erie area, they also have the 3 p.m. showing. Right. So, I know people here who will turn on the, the Altoona affiliate and watch it at three o'clock. I have a dish. So, I have, you know, I'm stuck. 10 o'clock is it for me. But no matter what, because of the nature of my job, I've got to record. So, I don't get to watch the live feed. No matter what time it's broadcast, actually, it is hard to get up. Especially, especially you, especially if you have a job. And something else that I do want to pose is a question to everybody out there. Who are your favorite guiding light stars? The ones, the ones when you miss it, we do watch the video. We'll all learn through all time, all time, wherever you want. Maybe the ones before our panel answers, before our panel answers, let's begin in a new person into the panel to answer this first. You know, let's do that. Very good. 3, 1, 2. Hello. Hey. Is this, is this our boy Tony? Yes it is. Yes it is, guys. How you doing? How are you? I'm doing good. You know. That's good. Now, what was the question you wanted to ask me, girl? What? Hey, I have to know the ones who asked it. Okay. I guess Navell and I most have the same voice. Anyway, Tony, what I asked was, I guess, I can ask you this, since you've actually probably talked to a few of them, currently on the canvas, I kind of just add that in there. Who of me, of all time as well, who's been your favorite guiding light cast members, and will you follow them? If they go to another show. That's a very good question. Well, well, the first thing, well, the first person I can think of, well, you got to go to the top stars first, who are the most high at the start or the most popular stars, like Pietro Naughty, first of all. Yeah. They can wind up going to another stick. I want to go back to one like that. Order, again, they might go to primetime, because I think Tina has experience in primetime, because she had it up there on the finals, and I think she did well in order a couple of years ago, so I think she could go there. People like the dangerous girls, people like, I mean, who's not there anymore? He's going to be more like going to primetime, more likely. But you've got top white actors who could still do so, like Chris Chappelle, and other girls that could do so, continue to do so, and by the end of the Senate, and all those. By the end of the day, they could do the teen soaps, you know, like on primetime, like no, two and all, or, or, or, or got the girl. But for the people who've been long-time soaps, long-time soaps, like, Kim, they could wind up on another soap, but then again, they might go somewhere else, like, like, they could have gone abroad, Broadway. Some are Broadway type, like, like, Ron Reigns and Robert Newman, they could have gone to play, or go right play, to be play writers. So, it's hard, it's hard to pick how they were exactly going to go. And then there's the, there's the, and then there's the ones like the Manny Bernals, and the Robert Bose, and, and, and the, uh, and the Bobby Bartlett. Where are they going to go? They, they might continue to act, or they make it to you doing something else, and the badly caused. Where are they going to go? But they got other talents. Anybody want to feel then on that, too? Wow, who would I? Don't think I'm smart. I'm still thinking of, oh my gosh, don't say that. The whole, okay, okay, I, okay, I know what I'm going to say, okay. First and foremost, my, quote unquote, dad, Ron Reigns, because every event I go to, and Tracy should know this, I always call him my dad. It's just, I don't know what, I don't know how that started. Um, Kim's, him, or Robert Newman. Um, oh, God. Uh, Laura Wright, Cynthia Watts, um, Michael Sagglow, uh, Monty Sharp. Um, John just goes on top of your stuff, and he can say, Marci Riley, Michael Dumpf, yeah, the whole cast, there it goes. It's simple enough. Hey, Roxie, the dog. There you go. I went there. Roxie the dog. That's not an affair question. I didn't believe y'all even, I can't believe that. That's very open-ended, I have to be honest, because I can't even pick and choose myself. But there is something I can, or actually, because this was actually, I actually talked about this with Brandon, who hosts Brandon's buzz, if you haven't checked it out, you have to check it out. Brandon's buzz here on Blob Talk Radio. Fast Brandon's buzz. You can check it at website at Brandon's buzz.com. Uh, we were actually talking about this yesterday in regards to, and, and I want to rewind it back a little bit, because Gregor Zick was actually the one that brought out a first in the show. And it was the, it was basically, you know, where did it, where did the show even make that wrong term? Where did it go wrong? And, you know, a lot of people are saying that it had to deal with marine power of death. I mean, that has been like the epitome of the response that has been said for several years. Can I comment on that further, if I may? Yeah, you can. Okay. Okay. Here it goes. Guiding the light has a history of killing off popular characters and kicking off its fans. I can give you an example from every decade from the 50s on up in the 50s. It was, it was Kathy Roberts. Okay. Robin Fletcher. Okay. You know, you could do it, the latest example would be Ben Reed. How many times was this show going to kill off characters or destroy characters and keep its audience happy? You know, roughly in the 70s, Lou Jack in the 80s. I just felt that, you know, to me, when Maureen died, I just think there was a lot of loyal fans who had sat there while he was previewing his death and said, I've had enough. Click and ink on. Oh, yeah. That was one of those moments too that you just was like, did they just do this? And now they have two this decade. And that's two this decade with Tammy back two years, about three, two or three years ago, and most recently, cool. There was a lot of gush fans who was ticked off about gush dying. Oh, yeah. That's right, Gus. That was like, you know, one of the big things because a lot of people was hoping that I was going to get back together and then they pulled that stunt and a lot of people was like, okay, we're done. You know, but if you think about it, I think, um, um, you guys can tell me if I'm wrong, but then the ratings go up a slight, like a slight number when that happened. Oh, what's that mean, Jeff? What got? Well, I'm going to say with him is that it did spike. Yeah, with him, he said, yeah, no doubt. Um, but when Gus died, um, I really don't, I don't even know, uh, probably it probably did. And then again, it might stay the same. It depends on how they wrote the depth seen for a test. It depends how they wrote it. Well, I know with Tammy stuff, I mean, that was, I mean, we, I knew that Stephanie was leaving the show. And I just didn't know how she was going to, I didn't read the school. I, I didn't read the school, but when she died, you know, my mouth dropped because it was like, again, connection to Stephanie, I'm thinking to myself, oh my god, this is it. Like, oh my god, that's it. Good night. Like, oh my god. What? On top of the body of you, like, saying this thing. Yeah. Right. And I think I said that to Stephanie in time when I found the man event, I said, yeah, I felt like I wanted to get on top of Tammy's body and shake the lyrics a lot of relief. It's whatever. It's like, get up, get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. What are you doing? Get up. And also, Dottie Lynn has, with story, with storylines like that, Dottie Lynn has actually equaled daytime Emmy award. So many people, so many talented actors, and I've made the drama so popular daytime Emmy awards because like, Tom Palfrey, and it's just amazing performances. What, what other show? Of course, yeah, it'll, it'll go on, but what other show would you do that? You know, what other show could have such historical ones, because I, I remember talking with a girl in college, she said, you know, gag might have had its moments, but when it's good, it's good. You know, and you know, and you know, and you know, it's not funny. But this of all the actors who didn't win Emmys back in the 60s, I'm talking the Vicky Wyndham, you know, that's what I should have won one back in the 70s, you know, Winnie Geerfield, Fran Myers, Don Stewart, all the actors who played Ed, you know, each brought their own unique take to the role, you know, there's just so many people who haven't won Emmys on this show that showed up. And I just feel like to me, you know, being an old-timer who remembers the show from the 60s, I don't think for me, the show has had any TLC or tender loving care from an executive producer that it got from Lucy Wittenberg back in the day. I mean, you know, you compare Ellen, what Ellen Wheeler has done the last few years with what Lucy Wittenberg did back in the 60s, there's no comparison. Right, because the guy in light was his own genre, doing his own, it has own personality or his own identity back in those days, well, you were watching, like it is now. Right, oh no, back in the 60s, guiding light was as good as anything on daytime or prime time. I mean, dare, I mean, if you read Harding Lee May's book, Eight Years in Another World, he was talking about Vicki Wyndham and how they were thinking of casting, you know, getting her to play Rachel on Another World. And what was it, the wife of his publisher said, well, you need to go back and watch her performances on guiding light because they're brilliant, and they're just as good as anything else on television. The thing that really bothers me, you know, we're all talking about it in the chat room as well as how guiding light doesn't get any, you know, I'm rewinding it back again, but it's just something I really want to elaborate on is how guiding light does not get the promotion that it should get. I mean, you brought up this so digest cover where all it has, it's just a just a sentence thing guiding light canceled. I'm expecting to see a full-blown front page cover of like past pictures of like Riva and Josh across squeak when they first got married 89. I gotta give them some credit because at least they didn't abbreviate and put GL cancels. They actually wrote down light cancels about the exclamation mark. I just want to. That's, you know, it's a small, that's like a small little thing, but you know, I will say maybe that it was done late in the game and it probably they'll probably have a better spread in the following that's with the magazine. But it shouldn't be a probably it should be, it should be, you know, probably it should be. I mean, this is the longest running soap in history. It opens so many doors, it gave a lot of people that we know now tay dig Sherry Springfield. All these actors from Primetime, the movie. Right, exactly. I think a great start. I, you know, I'm going to say this as a fan and my grandfather was me and him all the time now because of this. People should respect and recognize down light for what it was, what it did. Yeah, it had this moment. I totally agree, Candace. Yeah, like, you know, old poor down light, it had bad writing, it had bad, you know, acting, it had bad directing. But down light, there was a reason that showed been on death wall. It's been on for a very long time before General Hospital, before days, before I was filming. Before all my children, before, you know, and it's like, you know, for my generation, it's kind of like, I don't think a lot of people understand a little bit unless like a long time ago. The thing you've got to remember is that all the people who created like young and the restless and all my children worked on guiding light. Bill Bell started wrote under Ernest Phillips on guiding light. Agnes, that's true. First headwriting job was guiding light. Right. I mean, without guiding light, you basically don't have a soap scene. You know, guiding light is Ernest Phillips, great creation. That's true. You know, and without, and there is the only soap today that can't trace itself back to guiding light. In one way or another is General Hospital. Right. Any, you know, I mean, all the rest of them, you know, got started by folks who worked under Ernest on guiding light. You know, the court a family started was on guiding light during the radio game. You know, days owes a certain amount to guiding light. Both the Agnes mix and soap, both the best. So, I was looking at the chat board there and somebody was talking about, you know, the full page ads that came out and, you know, upon Philip's turn. And again, that was Procter and Gamble. You know, they hired some people and that was their specific job was to get those ads out there and start promoting. And I think, again, you know, the magazines stopped giving guiding light the attention. And sadly, right now, and Candice, again, I didn't see these magazines for this we get. But, you know, last week, I think every single one of them was singing guiding light's praises one way or another about the storylines that are getting all that attention right now. It's just unreal. But then again, you know, how many, so now if you really think about it over the last, I'm going to say what 10 years, maybe less than that, how many times did you see kind of like really take the spot on the front page of any soap magazine? All right. And again, I mean, I'm not talking about, and I'm not talking about a soap star fire or a soap star coming back. I'm talking about storylines, you know, right. I think the last time I really saw one might have been whenever there was a Riva's clone in 1998, which that was probably last time I saw something. I remember that cover. Yes. Yes. I do remember that. It burns in my head. I do remember that cover as well. I'm going to see this way. I was shocked when doing the People's Choice Awards to actually see a promo, a promo for gun light. I have to do a double cake. I'm like, did they just promo gun light? Like really? They just promo. Okay. I thought I was, I thought I was going crazy. I really think I really think so. Go ahead. What we're going to say. Go ahead. All right. Cool. I was going to say it was takeaway into something else was that if you guys remember a couple of years ago, whenever Riva and Josh were tearing up divorce papers and saying they're on top of a lighthouse and they're saying, you know, oh, we're going to give it another shot. We're going to bring you time. It was sort of for me, like I was watching that thinking, wow, they were to end the show. Knock on wood. If they were to end the show right then and there, I wouldn't find that. Like not because it's because the way it was, like that's why I really envisioned the last scene should be Riva and Josh on the lighthouse together. That's just because if you think of everything, if you take all the Riva and Josh fans and all the, you know, because they all have to admit, they are the super couple of the show. They are the Mickey and Victor and of the show. And just, that was a really kind of a good ending. But in a way, they also made that, you know what, we're still, I think that was sort of a way of saying, died might still on the air. What are they going to do? What would be the last scene? In your case, what do you guys think? What do you want to see the last scene? Well, I would actually, I would go with that with the thing, though, is like, you know, Josh and Riva get back together and you would see them kiss. And what I would actually do is splash back to a Charita Bower scene. Yeah. And then there would be some scene there, just like a few flashback scenes with her from black and white into color and then blast back into real time with Josh and Riva kissing in and then it was fade out. And it'll probably have like a picture of Charita Bower right at the end of the episode. That's how I would envision it. Some way, some way, in some way, shape or form, Charita Bower had to be seen in the last episode. Yeah. You have Rick telling Lee about his great grandmother. I could do with that too. Yeah. I like that. That would be good. I got a real corny one, but it's going to kind of make sense. I want the lighthouse to be the very last shot and show the families, the current families that are on right now. And then I want at the end, I want the reverend to say the first lines that was set on the radio. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, quote, urna, go for it. Yeah. I want that to be like, you know, like something like a wedding or something like that and then show the lighthouse and like, or fate, like just go through the families to make sure, you know, that you see what had been, you know, like the aftermath or whatever, stuff like that. And then have the lighthouse, have the, or have the original radio show, you know, that the poem come on and then slowly let the lighthouse fade out and that'll be it. And then at the end, it says, thank you to the fans and stuff like that. That's really cool. And actually, thank you to the fans. If you remember, I was just on YouTube and I was watching the love of those fan tension in the show, obviously, we're also sort of watching the love of life cancel, remember the third final episode and how it faded to the set. And a lot of 80 shows, whenever they went off the show, sort of, I think it happened possibly in the 90s as well with a few of the shows. It sort of went to the set and then it went, it broke that fourth wall. Would you guys like to see that now? Even though there wasn't, there were really... I think that was just for tomorrow, I think, with their cancellation if I remember that. Yeah, I think it's a bit passionate. They did it with passions. They did it with Ryan Tope. They did it with Santa Barbara. Did it do it in another world or no? Another world was different. What they did in their last episode was like they recorded these video snippets, but they were as their characters and they were performing like saying goodbye to the fans, but not like saying goodbye as their actual self. They were like, thank you, goodbye to like... Who was it that got married in that episode? I can't remember. I think... Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't even watch this show, I'm good. I mean, I have to stay home. I understand why we're talking about this now and again, I'm looking at the chat there. I'm still not ready to give up, but maybe that's denial, maybe that's foolishness. But coming in here tonight, we were talking about what we're doing in support of the show. I still think that while it very well could be the end, I'd still like to believe that there's still that... You still have that hope, that chance that it still be here. Oh yeah, absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind. The thing I've heard today, I don't know many of them heard it yet, but apparently daytime confidential had broke a piece that's still a developing story that lifetime may pick up, got any light, and if they do, then as the world turns may follow suit, since PGP Telenext wants to do this as a package deal. How would you guys feel if it ended up a lifetime? I would be the heaviest person in the world. Sorry. Well, the thing is, so if it ends up on lifetime, are they going to keep it an hour show, or are they going to cut it back to a half hour a piece? I think life time, when you look at lifetime, and you look at the types of programming that lifetime carries, a soap opera would be a good fit into their daytime lineup. I was just reading today where, you know, they were running golden girls and golden girls, they've now passed off the hallmark, and I can't remember what that is. I can't remember what show they said is now running on lifetime, but whatever it is, they're running it in like, it must be a half hour show, and they're running it six episodes back to back, something like that. I'm not sure because, again, I'm not home during the day to flip through, but lifetime has always been geared toward that female audience, which I know not everyone that watches soaps in today's world are females, but it's certainly the type of network that you could see bringing in the soap content, including as the world turns down the road, as they've mentioned in daytime confidential. Let's take this caller, see if they have any input they want to say. It's a California caller, we're getting on the line here. All right, California Carler, area code 323, you're on the line right now, how are you? Hey, what's going on? It's Gregory Martin. Hey, Gregory Martin, what's going on? Hey, Gregory Martin, what's going on? I just saw your Facebook message. What's going on? Are you on the air? Are you guys on the air right now? We are, and you know what we're discussing, actually, since you do sort of have a stake in this, in this entertainment business, what do you think about guiding light getting canceled? That's the big topic of the night, GJM, what do you have to say? Well, I think it's a very sad day in television. You know, it's, you know, guiding light is, I might be the only show that's still around from the early days of television, so I think it's a very, very sad thing. That's pretty much it, but I, you know, I hope it doesn't. I hope some other network picks it up or something like they're planning. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I think a lot of us feel that way, because, again, you're talking about decades versus years here in terms of viewership and that attachment that you get to that particular genre, whether it's guiding light as the world terms, what have you. I mean, I'll admit, you know, guiding light is the one that is my musty TV. Occasionally, I might catch all my children or one life to live on so many. I hear guiding light has been really, really good lately, and so that's, you know, oh, it has. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a good thing. And, you know, in looking at the history, a friend of mine said this to me, and it said that in 72 years, this show has bonded generations together, grandmothers, mothers, daughters and granddaughters, sons and grandsons, all watching together. And in times like this, when you look at what's happening with our economy and all of those things, and I'm sorry, one of you said that you're from the Pittsburgh area, you know, we're looking at, you know, three police officers just getting gunned down in this area weekend. Yeah, you know, you know, when I was, these are one of those that needs to be preserved in the early, in the early times, you know, a few years back when I was first starting in this business, I did some PA work on different shows and stuff. And I was, one of the shows was a soap that I was actually a fan of as well. And even though, you know, one of the things, you know, I didn't work on the show all the time, but I had watched it for years before I actually, you know, before I actually worked on it. But when I was, when I would, when I would have a rough day, you know, I would turn on my, well, at the time, there was no divo or whatever, you know, I just, I would tape it and set my VCR and I would tape it and I would watch it. And it was kind of, it took me to another world, no pun intended. And so, and so it was, something that was, was, you know, I'm sure lots of people go through, you know, it kind of takes you to, to, you know, to another world, the show happened to be another world. And I understood why I was called that, you know. And so when the show was canceled, it was, it was very sad for me. And I think, and I'm sure guiding light fans around the world are, are feeling the same thing. Yeah, it's, it's like, it's almost like we're, we're going through that morning process at the moment for, you know, the characters, for me, you know, it's the other side of it is it can just know this as well. When you know the actors, when you, when you've sat with them and you've talked to them and you know that they are real people with real feelings, you feel for them. That's, that's, that's, you know, you know, you know, you know, when you have friends in the business, and one of the shows goes off, it's always sad. But the good thing with the soap world is, you know, they, they like to recycle their actors. And so, fortunately, a lot of them get to, you know, they move on to other shows. Of course, it's not the same for, uh, for the fans, because the fans want to see them playing the characters that they've watched for many years. But, but, yeah, your morning of character. Yeah, so it's, I think it, it, you know, it, it depends. If, if it's hard for an actor to get, to get a job on another show or somewhere else, then of course, it's very difficult for them. But, uh, but, you know, most of the time when the character is very, very popular on a show, you know, one of the other shows picks them up and, and, you know, they just kind of continue on with their careers. Well, has anybody heard if any, like, when another world was canceled, the Jay character went over to as the world turns? Has anybody heard if any of the guiding light characters are going to go over to as the world turns? They were fascinating that at the beginning, I remember reading about that. Yeah, there was one rumor that I saw that popped up on, um, one of the websites and I can confirm it. I can confirm, at least from, um, what I know from talking to Ron, because he was one of the ones that was involved in this rumor, that they were not contacted and asked to go to as the world turns. And the two happened to be Kim, Zimmer and Ron Reigns. Um, yeah, I'm sure PG will probably have, you know, do something as they did with another world on as the world turns. I'm sure they'll do it with, uh, with guiding light. I, uh, I, um, and most likely it'll be Kim, Zimmer and, and some of the other ones. But, uh, but I guess the, the whole thing is hoping that lifetime picks it up right now, right? And, uh, cross your fingers, seriously. Keep the energy there for, for the, for the cast, thank you. Over at the show and of course, of course. And plus something else is that Dirty Lights has taped for so many years in New York City. And as an actor who we love to work on a soap opera, especially an NYC soap, it sucks to see that it is an NYC soap as getting me axed. I, I can't believe how many soaps in the eighties were filmed in New York City, as well as another world in the nineties. It's just, it, it sort of, it really sucks because it has so much history with the Big Apple. Well, that's, that's, that's something that, that means something to me, especially being a New Yorker myself. I live out in LA, but I, I'm a very, very proud New Yorker. And if I could make every film in New York, I would, you know, but the atmosphere. And I think, I think, you know, that, that, that, you know, for me, you know, I think it affects more people in the industry than it does. Fans, because I don't think they realize the difference. I mean, Port Charles takes place in New York. It's really shot in California, you know. But I think, I think, I think, um, Regener Hospital rather, Port Charles is supposed to be New York. The, um, yeah, that's hard. That's hard for people in the industry, especially people who are Native New Yorkers who love New York. Um, um, because we hate to see anything that's shot in New York, whether it's a soap opera or, or, or a sitcom or a primetime show, um, acts if it's an East Coast show because you want to keep the, you know, the, the, the East Coast, uh, you know, shows around, you know, it's, I mean, that's, whenever I hear of a show being, you know, relocated to New York or a new show starting in New York, that makes me very excited even though I'm living out in LA because I just, I wish there was more happening in New York, especially for, you know, aspiring actors or, or, you know, actors who live in New York and who would like to pursue a career there. Yeah. That was like my dream job. Like, I always wanted to be an actress on soap. I, I still choose to stay, remember my little essay that I wrote in middle school. It was, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I thought I want to be an actress that works at theaters that weren't down like, and I mean, that's how it was. I mean, I, I had spent, I think, and I think that in the bell knows this, you know, um, when they had, uh, Lawrence St. Victor, who plays Rednehorn, we were on the phone and we were name dropping and I was sending my photos to, you know, down like casting in hopes of, you know, being, you know, Alice Baldwin, you know, an illegitimate child with Felicia. Oh, because that's, that's how it is at the West and everybody knows what that is. But it's just, you know, it's kind of like, on, on that part, it's like, that, you know, that dream of being on, kind of like being in the opening, you know, you know, smiling, you know, dramatic, and, you know, it's, it's kind of like, it's, you know, I'm really hoping that the show can you, but that, see, I'm getting emotional. Um, but then it's that, that part, you know, it's like a little girl who wrote that essay is like, you know, that it might not happen. You know, I mean, I'm glad that I've met the cast. I'm glad I've been on the side that I actually went to New Jersey, P. Pack New Jersey, and, you know, found the location spot and stuff. But it's just, you know, now that we've, now that it's really sinking in, if I-- No, I know, I know. Well, you know, I got to tell you, I want to tell you a funny story. Um, and I hate to, you know, I, you know, I, I feel like I came on to the show and like everyone's talking to me and I feel very awkward. Like I told, I didn't, you know, I, you guys want to talk to each other and I, and I'll leave, I'll leave you guys alone, but I just want to say something, a funny story happened to me when I was, I was living in Levittown, I was Levittown, Pennsylvania, and I was maybe 10 years old, 12 years old, you know. And, James Depiva was doing a guest appearance at a, at a, some mall that was out there. And I went out there and I was, I was super excited because, you know, as a kid, I, you know, my mom used to watch all my children, my, my babysitter watched Santa Barbara, you know, and so soaps were something that, that I grew up watching. And, and so I knew everybody, well, not everyone, but I knew the shows that my family watched and one like to live with another one. And so I was very excited, 10, 10, 12 years old. I was, I, I went to the mall and I remember, you know, I was a big fan of Gabrielle and Max, and my mom actually looked a little like Gabrielle, Fiona Hudson. And so, you know, I, when I, so yeah, so when I went to a wife, when I met with James Depiva, you know, I was just some little 12 year old kid and, and I, and I had a picture of my mom, I think, you know, and I said to him, you know, here's, you know, here's, you know, at the time, Fiona Hudson was off the show. I didn't, I, I really, I guess I really didn't know what was going on. I didn't know what, you know, what, you know, she was working on, I think she was working on guiding light up time actually. But, so I said to, I said to James, I said, you know, here's a picture, you know, who do I have to talk to to get my mom on the show, you know? And so he's like, Oh, talk to my bubble assist. Yeah, I was so ignorant at the time. But I, but I, but I was so like, I just wanted to be involved in the soap world and little by little, I kind of met people and I did networking and I was, I didn't, I produced my own stuff and I produced the TV pilot called Waterfront and the, almost the entire cast was also, were all soap actors and, and then I directed Manhattanites with, you know, other soap actors and I did some, I did a couple episodes on General Hospital and so little by little, I just kind of worked my way into the soap world and now I know everybody in the soap world and it's just, you know, it's a job. But, but I think, I think if you have a dream, then you should just go for it because it will happen, you know, and, and guiding light, if it does, if it is canceled, where, you know, just, you know, hope that it doesn't keep energy, positive energy that some other network picks it up or CBS changes their mind or whatever the cases. Whatever, one way or another, you will, if you believe that you will, then you will, you know, you just have to kind of follow your dreams and don't, don't ever put limitations on yourself. Yeah. Pretty proud of your work. I know, I know, just, you know, all of this that I'm doing right now, I mean, if someone would have asked me five years ago, if I would be running Alan's faulting, you know, Ron Raine's website, I would thought that they were crazy and, you know, guiding light has given me so many opportunities now where, you know, here I am talking to you guys, which was certainly something that was totally unexpected when Navell contacted me this week, but I have met so many wonderful people because of guiding light, you know, and, and some of them I see are out there on that chat board right now, but, you know, I remember when my friend Janice from Atlanta first said to me, how about coming up to New York City through the fan gathering? It's your chance to meet the actors, and at first, I kind of laughed, and I, and I passed it off, and she kept, you know, saying, no, come on, I'm serious, you've got to come, you've got to come. And so I went, and the remarkable thing was, in Candice, you've been there. Yeah. All of these people from all over the place who don't know one another, gather there, and are suddenly like a big family. Oh, and I know exactly what you're saying. And it's, it's overwhelming, and, and here, you know, I'm doing something that I certainly enjoy doing. I love the fact that, you know, not only am I doing that website for Ron and helping Beth chamberman with hers, but I also get to talk to people like Candice, like Dana, like Wendy, Mark, and all of these people that I'm, that I'm seeing out there on that board tonight, and the bond that we share because of the show. Right. Yeah. And, and, and going, and, and my point was, is that fact that you said, you know, don't be afraid to dream, don't be afraid to go after things. And that's certainly how I feel about all of the things that I've been able to do the past three or four years with the actors and with the boards and with this, keep the light shining campaign. It's, it's being with people who share that common bond and being willing to take a chance, being willing to say, yeah, I can, I can, I can create a website, I can create a blog and not being afraid to go out and live sometimes like this campaign of trying to save a show. I certainly have never done anything like this before in terms of saving a show. Well, let me ask you, since we do have everybody, we have a big group of people on the air and hopefully this actually, this show does find its way to CVS, which I'm pretty sure it might. What do you guys want to say in your words, to say very much, Tracy, you pretty much almost summed it up there. But you can, you know, if you want to say something else, well, what do you want to say to CVS about canceling driving light? Last word. You want me to go first? Go ahead. I think that they made a huge mistake in canceling the show because the fan base is still out there. It's a passionate fan base that demographic, that almighty demographic, isn't the be all and end all. As a person who works with young people, I can tell you right now, young people don't watch television the same way that you and I watch television. If they watch television at all, they're tuning in on the internet, they're because they're so focused on that medium right now. They don't watch television like we do. And you're hurting so many people that have made a connection. You're hurting a genre and you're ignoring the people who do spend money. I still don't believe that that demographic is the demographic that spends the most money. And I think, you know, that's the bottom line here. They're going after an audience. It doesn't watch television the same way that you and I watch television. It's a different world. We've evolved, but the Nielsen tablet necessarily evolved the way the medium has evolved. Wow. Anybody else? Jump in, guys. I guess I'll go next. To CBS, you've killed a legacy. You killed an American icon. You pretty much just that screw it. And you think that replacing a show that has been on for so many years through generations and generations who've brought people from Israel to California to New York. If you think a game show, a reality show is going to be able to heal all wounds, I'm sorry. You made the biggest mistake. And that's pretty much all I got to say. You killed a lot. Can I just say one thing? And then I have to go off. But I just would like to say one thing quickly. My thoughts on it, you know, guiding light, if CBS is listening, guiding light is not passion. It's not poor child. It's not sunset beach. You know, it's something that was part of historically part of television for 70-something years. And give it the respect that it deserves. And that's what I would like to say. And anyway, to guiding light fans, you know, you guys are really what -- and to also fans. You know, you guys are really will keep these, you know, soaps out in the air. And whether it's respected, the way it should be respected in the entertainment business or not, it's you guys who are actually keeping soaps alive. So good job. And thank you guys. Buzzworthy radio. I'd love to come on another time and talk about other things. But I just wanted to stop in and say, you know, say hello and show my respect for guiding light and the fans. Absolutely. Cool. Okay, I'll talk to you guys later. And can keep it going, guys. Bye. You know, they have something called see saw during the "Another World Days" committee to save "Another World." And it didn't work. But, you know, it's a new time. We have Obama's president, so I'll talk to you guys later. And if you guys keep fighting, you know, you may be able to save guiding light. So I'll talk to you guys later. Take care now. Wow. I guess I will go. And that's Greg wants to jump in before I go. Yeah. I just want to say, because I've been listening to a lot of the comments, part of me feels like a part of Cincinnati has died because I remember when all those executives from P&G used to go back and forth between Cincinnati and New York, you know, to check on that show. I mean, I remember guys like Alan Potter and Ed Track and Robert Short and, you know, all these behind the scenes people, you know, who really cared about that show and really put their life into that show. And I just feel like when CBS canceled it, it's just like a part of me died with it. You know, because those, you know, people don't realize what an effect the soaps that the P&G soaps had on this town. And like, you know, I can remember when you could tune in the local talk shows. And there was, you know, everybody from like Mike Zazlo and Don Stewart to Melinda Fe, you know, coming down from New York telling you the latest on what was happening on Guiding Light or you'd have stars from another world or as the world turns doing the same thing. I mean, an era, you know, a part of life that I was privileged enough to see of the entertainment business, you know, is dead and buried and it's never coming back. You know, and I, you know, and I sure hope that CBS has really thought about what they're doing here because once they, you know, if Guiding Light is gone, there's no way of turning back the clock, you know. I just feel like with CBS canceling Guiding Light within the next two years, NBC's got to make a decision about days of our lives and ABC has got to decide which one of their soaps they want to get rid of. It's not going to be a pretty picture. And I just think it's a very sad day. Definitely. Navell, you said you'd say your piece. Well, I pretty much emphasized on everything that Gregor Zick just said. Everything right now is a domino effect when it comes to canceling this one soap opera that has been a part of CBS before Pearl Harbor. I mean, come on, you are getting rid of a show that has brought together so many people that has brought so many stars that we know to this day and age to the forefront. Now, I mean, you've introduced us to Kevin Bacon, Calistha Flockhart, Ian, Ian Vering. I mean, who else has been on this show that we pretty much experienced. James Earl Jones, Billy D. Williams. Ruby Dee was on this show. I mean, this is something that pretty much was like a stepping stone for actors coming into this business. And then you really are underestimating the fans that are watching this show. I mean, check the fan response. Check to keep the light shining campaign that's going on right now. I mean, you really don't have any idea what you're doing. I mean, Barbara Bloom was this close to getting ousted, this close to getting ousted as the president of CBS daytime programming. You were this close because you do not know what the hell you're doing. I mean, you're so wrapped up in your ass because you really want to fight with this CBS ABC campaign crap. That's really not anybody's business. We don't care. We really don't care that you're fighting to try to get ABC stars to come onto the network. We really don't care that ABC is trying to fight to get CBS people on their network. That's not what we want. That's not what we care about. What we care about is what's on the network right now and got any lights that main issue. I was lucky enough to start watching "Guiding Light" when I was five years old. Now, it was in 1990. And being a five-year-old kid, I really did not understand what was going on. I was more in tune with opening sequence of the show before "Hold on to Love" hit. I was the "My Guiding Light" theme song whore. And then when I started getting invested into the storyline and knowing what was going on, I fell in love with the show. And you're taking away something that's pretty much more fan than I, obviously, who have watched longer and probably more longer before I was even thought of to be in creation out of my mom's womb. You know, you're taking away something that people have been investing in in so long and you're really alienating your fan base. You really have no idea what you're doing to your fan base. I mean, once you get, if you decide to fully get rid of "Guiding Light," what's to say that you, like I said earlier, what's to say that you're not going to lose fans of the on the rest of the "Bold and Beautiful" and as the world turns, you're really going to lose viewership. And it just seems like it's just a downward spiral to the death of daytime just because of this one show. That's how I feel about it. You really are killing daytime with just this one show by getting rid of it. And I do, my message to CBS is, CBS, I really do wish you could see this chat room that we have going on right now because there are so many dedicated fans just like there have been for so many years. We have people who have been, who have said that they have watched the show for, do we have 42 years, 29 years, 36 years, 46 years, 35 years, the list goes on and on. But the message I really hope that you get out of this is that you can possibly be the, you can save daytime by saving guiding light because guiding light pretty much jump-started CBS in its history. And everything that you guys have preserved has been with guiding light. It has started, daytime has started with guiding light and it cannot end with guiding light getting cancelled. So save it, save the light and be a hero for once, save daytime. Another thing I want to point out, too, and that was some message, man, I like that a lot. Another thing I want to point out, too, is that don't think for the fans who watch guiding light for so many years and the fans who are participating in it keep the light shining campaign signing the petitions and everything else, don't think that you can't not, using a double negative because that fits. Don't think that you can't not make a difference. I mean, fans can make a difference in this, so, John, I mean, look what happened with another world when they wanted to fire Anna Stewart as Donna Love. The fans actually came out and saved her from getting fired on another world when Jill Farron fells wanted to kill her character off. But they could have stopped that. They were able to keep her alive on the show until its very last day. Don't think that you can't not save guiding light from getting cancelled off the television. Whether or not it is off the CBS, but it can be salvaged and can go on to another network. Don't think that you can't not let it die because you can prevent it from dying. You can keep it here for however, how many more years that it's going to be on the face of this planet. Just get in, just keep harping at it because people will notice it. They will look at it. Keep writing and keep supporting the show. That's all you got to keep doing. Just keep writing, keep calling, the comment line, all of it. Saying your piece about how you feel about the fact that this is going off the air. Let them know how you feel because if you don't really, the thing with this is don't really cause so much because they really might not listen to that. But you can't be strong with your response where you don't have to worry about using this first word. But just keep writing and keep showing your support and tell your friends, tell your family members, tell everybody who will listen. There are lots of people out there who are friends that you don't even know. It's all interconnected. Just keep going at it and show your support and that's the best thing that you can do in this point in time. I wish the CBS could come to the gun like weekends because in Tracy can talk about this. Tracy, how many people do you think is actually at the luncheon? Like probably like over 200? Well, last year there weren't quite 500 the year, the 70th anniversary. I know that there were 500 and that's just at the main gathering. But there are people who don't necessarily go to the main gathering but go to some of the other activities. So you've got a large contingent of fans that head up to New York City for that event. We could be broke. I could tell you this last year I was broke going up. I wanted to show my support. I wanted to be there. There's people who, I met one girl, she was from, actually she was from Australia and it was her first time actually going to gun like weekends. She never been but she was so excited because her mom used to watch the show, her dad watched the show. She was so excited. She got excited. I mean, she was just so excited. And to see a fan, I mean, you guys don't understand, when you see fans with all the worries in the world that's going on now, wars, you know, the economy. You, for that weekend, it's free. You laugh, you got a joke, you get a drink, you get a drunk. You know, you have a good time. And that's the thing yes, and that's the kind of like it's also about having a good time, you know, get away from the real life stuff. Yeah, I mean, my boss told me she said, "I like when you go up there because when you come back here in a much better mood for quite a long time." And we joke about that but it's true. There was a gal there this year, Trinidad. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I forgot her name but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, she was from Trinidad and like I said, then there was Vera who has been a fan since it was on radio. And so you see people of all walks of life, from all generations, from all demographic groups. Even newborn babies want one event and they say they want their newborn children to grow up knowing about this show. I talked around this, I want my grandkids to know about the show and watch the show. I mean, you know, well guys, I do have to say just like hopefully the time, you know, which is just an ever factor in everything that we do. The time has come to say good night. It has been such an amazing night. I want to thank all the collars, all the people in the chat room. Tracy, thank you so much for coming on. Everybody who came out, thanks so much. Gregor Zigg, thanks so much for being here. Marlena de la Qua and Candice and Tracy and Tony. And there are so many more collars that are on this line right now that we haven't even picked up. And I just want to thank you for even having the consumption to even call in here, even though I didn't even get a chance to you. I'm so sorry, but you are calling in and you are showing your support for the show. I just want to thank you so much for even giving the opportunity to even give us. I will say thank you for having me, Nobel. Thanks a lot. We'll definitely be seeing you. Definitely. Definitely. A lot of people want to know if we can get this particular show out here to the Faz, you know, and especially TBS. And there will be a linkage that will be put up on the website at buzzreadradio.net that you can just basically just sport on to any and everybody. It will be up probably before the night out, probably within the next half hour. So you definitely check the website for that because this definitely was a show that brought a lot of people together and just hopefully it will bring more people together to keep guiding light on the air. So that's my few cents for that. I'm going to edit edit that. Of course, Navell, as I always ask, when are we on next? When can all the die-hard lesbians just think the die-hard dirty-white wazers? When can they catch us next? Well, we are going to be on again on Friday with Aidan Turner from all my children, please, the role of Aidan Devane on the show. That's at 10 p.m. Eastern time. So we are going to be on there for that. But I will say that we are in the works for continuing our part two of the cast different series on the show. Our next woman that we're supposed to have on is Kirk at the V.O. We are going to set up something for him. But until I find that out, I will let you know. But we are definitely on Friday night at 10 p.m. Eastern time with Aidan Turner. So we're going to end it there. I want to thank everybody who stopped in on the show tonight. I want to thank everybody who stopped in the chat room. Thank you so much for coming out. This was a great cause and we definitely should do this again. And Tracy, before we head out here, where can people go ahead and sign the petitions and join to keep the light shining campaign app? I have a blog set up and it's called Save Our Light dot blogspot dot com. Save Our Light dot blogspot dot com. Check it out. And as we always say, get the latest buzz with the radio. Thank you guys for listening. Take care now. Bye bye. Take care. Thank you. Bye. Bye bye. [Music] Can't get enough of Buzzworthy Radio. Knock on down to www.buzzworthyradio.net. To get the latest news, I'm upcoming guests, past shows and videos of all your favorite stars. Keep getting the latest buzz with Buzzworthy.
Join BuzzWorthy Radio as we talk about the latest developments regarding Guiding Light. Hear Tracey Smeltzer on her campaign to keep the show on the air, as well as others discuss on how they felt when they heard the news of the cancellation. Fans are urged to call in and show their support of the show, as well as their favorite moments of the daytime drama! Be sure to also listen in for information on what you can do to keep GL on the air.