This week, Jen and Pete noodle on both looking up to someone on a pedestal and being the person put on the pedestal.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What does it mean to put someone on a pedestal?
• How might status change within the same framework?
• How might we utilize our idolization of certain people?

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