Throwing it back to old video games, Pete and Jen ping-pong back and forth about what we might learn from games like Zelda when thinking about leadership and growth.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• How might we think about challenges in life as quests?
• What are different ways in which we can level up?
• How might we find excitement in the unknown?

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