This week, Seth makes a return visit to the podcast, and he, Jen, and Pete dive in to a wide range of topics, such as Seth's new book, bees, meetings, leaf blowers, and so much more.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete (and Seth) talk about:

• What is Seth's latest book all about, and how might the themes within it show up in our daily lives?
• How might we think about work differently, in terms of leadership, structure, and enrollment?
• Where does the water go when you paddle in a canoe?

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