Jen tells Pete about what she learned this week that made her feel like an elephant had stomped on her chest and knocked the wind out of her. (Hint: It has something to do with innovation.)

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What is the relationship between innovation and infrastructure?
• Why is it important to innovate?
• How might a person or organization create infrastructure to support innovation?

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