Pete asks Jen to help him unpack a statement that recently blew his mind: Effectiveness kills curiosity.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What is the definition of effective?
• Why is it important to leave room for serendipity?
• What questions might leaders ask, and what behavior might they model to enable both effectiveness and curiosity within their workplace?

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