Jen and Pete play a game of virtual ping-pong, noodling on what they’ve learned thus far in the quarantine.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What do we actually need?
• How is the judgement of others, and oneself, particularly evident during this time?
• What is comparative suffering, and how does it manifest itself?
• Is most hierarchy bullshit?

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